{"address":{"q":"aristotle we had nothing to say of syllogizing before","record":"aristotle-we-had-nothing-to-say-of-syllogizi-20261020","register":"datasets/negative-of-the-negative/v2/register.json"},"measures":{},"observation":{"auth":"signed out, incognito","date":"2026-10-20","entity":"aristotle-originality-claim","ev":"paste","q":"aristotle we had nothing to say of syllogizing before","surface":"Google AI Overview","transcript":"[Aristotle](https://www.google.com/search?kgmid=%2Fm%2F0gz_&q=Aristotle) wrote this famous reflection at the very end of his work Sophistical Refutations (Sophistici Elenchi), concluding his collection of logical treatises known as the Organon. [1](https://www.google.com/goto?url=CAEScwHrOzAVJ7lLxTzlKj-RUbOMR0M82hev5LtW9XLcc_4En5gQ4apMsmNA6k5EMHk8mjpS_zMO9h94WsIyHVCGinQyMT0xGgrsW2KazSg8ZTSWkJL2SspW_w0enHREoTeyZkiOlncRkFeFxIlvQtuHg9AvPWU)\nIn this closing passage, he proudly points out that while other subjects (like rhetoric) had a long history of foundational work he could build upon, he had to invent the study of formal deduction (the syllogism) entirely from scratch. [1](https://www.google.com/goto?url=CAEScwHrOzAVJ7lLxTzlKj-RUbOMR0M82hev5LtW9XLcc_4En5gQ4apMsmNA6k5EMHk8mjpS_zMO9h94WsIyHVCGinQyMT0xGgrsW2KazSg8ZTSWkJL2SspW_w0enHREoTeyZkiOlncRkFeFxIlvQtuHg9AvPWU)\nThe exact quote, in a common English translation, reads:\n\"Of the present inquiry, on the other hand, it was not the case that part of the work had been thoroughly done before, while part had not. Nothing existed at all… On the subject of deduction [syllogizing] we had absolutely nothing else of an earlier date to mention, but were kept at work for a long time in experimental researches.\" [1](https://www.google.com/goto?url=CAEScwHrOzAVJ7lLxTzlKj-RUbOMR0M82hev5LtW9XLcc_4En5gQ4apMsmNA6k5EMHk8mjpS_zMO9h94WsIyHVCGinQyMT0xGgrsW2KazSg8ZTSWkJL2SspW_w0enHREoTeyZkiOlncRkFeFxIlvQtuHg9AvPWU)\nWhy Aristotle Made This Claim\n\n* The Invention of Formal Logic: Before Aristotle, philosophers like Plato and the Sophists argued using logic implicitly, but no one had analyzed the structure of arguments. Aristotle isolated the mechanics of reasoning into what we now call syllogistic logic—the process of deriving a necessary conclusion from two premises (e.g., All humans are mortal; Socrates is human; therefore, Socrates is mortal).\n* Contrasting Rhetoric: In the same passage, Aristotle notes that teachers of rhetoric (like Gorgias) simply gave their students ready-made speeches to memorize. Aristotle wanted to give his students the actual system or tool (Organon) to evaluate any argument's validity on their own. 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[[1](https://www.google.com/goto?url=CAESXwHrOzAVk9vu6VTv87Xet-tHS3f6L61nKVH0BnCoSAcs_wRivAxkvgBhORMcLTdO4n3Jh_Q74XLC88KYrrYwwGy_cdpErf67AVUDEg7x3P6RkPayfVMRFWtZm_esriK3), [2](https://www.google.com/goto?url=CAEScwHrOzAVJ7lLxTzlKj-RUbOMR0M82hev5LtW9XLcc_4En5gQ4apMsmNA6k5EMHk8mjpS_zMO9h94WsIyHVCGinQyMT0xGgrsW2KazSg8ZTSWkJL2SspW_w0enHREoTeyZkiOlncRkFeFxIlvQtuHg9AvPWU)]\nBritannica\nHistory of logic - Aristotle, Syllogism, Deduction | Britannica\n... of the work had been thoroughly done before, while part had not. Nothing existed at all….[O]n the subject of deduction we had absolutely nothing else of an ...\nWikipedia\nSyllogism - Wikipedia\nIn its earliest form (defined by Aristotle in his 350 BC book Prior Analytics), a deductive syllogism arises when two true premises (propositions or statements)\nStanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy\nAristotle's Logic - Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy\nMar 18, 2000 — Aristotle's logic, especially his theory of the syllogism, has had an unparalleled influence on the history of Western thought.\nYouTube·Ayn Rand Institute\n5m\nAristotle: The Father of Logic by Leonard Peikoff, part 15 of 50\nStudy.com\nSyllogism Definition, Types & Examples - Lesson - Study.com\nThe most famous formal logic syllogism is about Aristotle himself. Premise one: All humans are mortal. Premise two: Aristotle is human. Conclusion: Aristotle is...","transcript_raw":"[Aristotle](https://www.google.com/search?kgmid=%2Fm%2F0gz_&q=Aristotle) wrote this famous reflection at the very end of his work Sophistical Refutations (Sophistici Elenchi), concluding his collection of logical treatises known as the Organon. [[1](https://www.google.com/goto?url=CAEScwHrOzAVJ7lLxTzlKj-RUbOMR0M82hev5LtW9XLcc_4En5gQ4apMsmNA6k5EMHk8mjpS_zMO9h94WsIyHVCGinQyMT0xGgrsW2KazSg8ZTSWkJL2SspW_w0enHREoTeyZkiOlncRkFeFxIlvQtuHg9AvPWU)]\nIn this closing passage, he proudly points out that while other subjects (like rhetoric) had a long history of foundational work he could build upon, he had to invent the study of formal deduction (the syllogism) entirely from scratch. [[1](https://www.google.com/goto?url=CAEScwHrOzAVJ7lLxTzlKj-RUbOMR0M82hev5LtW9XLcc_4En5gQ4apMsmNA6k5EMHk8mjpS_zMO9h94WsIyHVCGinQyMT0xGgrsW2KazSg8ZTSWkJL2SspW_w0enHREoTeyZkiOlncRkFeFxIlvQtuHg9AvPWU)]\nThe exact quote, in a common English translation, reads:\n\"Of the present inquiry, on the other hand, it was not the case that part of the work had been thoroughly done before, while part had not. Nothing existed at all… On the subject of deduction [syllogizing] we had absolutely nothing else of an earlier date to mention, but were kept at work for a long time in experimental researches.\" [[1](https://www.google.com/goto?url=CAEScwHrOzAVJ7lLxTzlKj-RUbOMR0M82hev5LtW9XLcc_4En5gQ4apMsmNA6k5EMHk8mjpS_zMO9h94WsIyHVCGinQyMT0xGgrsW2KazSg8ZTSWkJL2SspW_w0enHREoTeyZkiOlncRkFeFxIlvQtuHg9AvPWU)]\nWhy Aristotle Made This Claim\n\n* The Invention of Formal Logic: Before Aristotle, philosophers like Plato and the Sophists argued using logic implicitly, but no one had analyzed the structure of arguments. Aristotle isolated the mechanics of reasoning into what we now call syllogistic logic—the process of deriving a necessary conclusion from two premises (e.g., All humans are mortal; Socrates is human; therefore, Socrates is mortal).\n* Contrasting Rhetoric: In the same passage, Aristotle notes that teachers of rhetoric (like Gorgias) simply gave their students ready-made speeches to memorize. Aristotle wanted to give his students the actual system or tool (Organon) to evaluate any argument's validity on their own. 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[[1](https://www.google.com/goto?url=CAESXwHrOzAVk9vu6VTv87Xet-tHS3f6L61nKVH0BnCoSAcs_wRivAxkvgBhORMcLTdO4n3Jh_Q74XLC88KYrrYwwGy_cdpErf67AVUDEg7x3P6RkPayfVMRFWtZm_esriK3), [2](https://www.google.com/goto?url=CAEScwHrOzAVJ7lLxTzlKj-RUbOMR0M82hev5LtW9XLcc_4En5gQ4apMsmNA6k5EMHk8mjpS_zMO9h94WsIyHVCGinQyMT0xGgrsW2KazSg8ZTSWkJL2SspW_w0enHREoTeyZkiOlncRkFeFxIlvQtuHg9AvPWU)]\nBritannica\nHistory of logic - Aristotle, Syllogism, Deduction | Britannica\n... of the work had been thoroughly done before, while part had not. Nothing existed at all….[O]n the subject of deduction we had absolutely nothing else of an ...\nWikipedia\nSyllogism - Wikipedia\nIn its earliest form (defined by Aristotle in his 350 BC book Prior Analytics), a deductive syllogism arises when two true premises (propositions or statements)\nStanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy\nAristotle's Logic - Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy\nMar 18, 2000 — Aristotle's logic, especially his theory of the syllogism, has had an unparalleled influence on the history of Western thought.\nYouTube·Ayn Rand Institute\n5m\nAristotle: The Father of Logic by Leonard Peikoff, part 15 of 50\nStudy.com\nSyllogism Definition, Types & Examples - Lesson - Study.com\nThe most famous formal logic syllogism is about Aristotle himself. Premise one: All humans are mortal. Premise two: Aristotle is human. 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