ἊΝ ἙΝ ΡΝ eg ὯΝ ah ἶ ae i inna nti ἈΠ Νὴ ΤΠ ΜΉ ΜΝ Τὴ ἣν “Έ ΞΘ = Bite whehy 81 Ao, ee τ == = Aan hai ; 7 ΠΗ ὁ ἢ Hi Τὴν ΜΙΝ ἬΝ Bin it ay ART het +, “et N Me Sate: Mera ΜῈ Fes) HORN, ΘΗΝ barks ‘tnt Ἶ POT Ή γεν ln Haha tcl να ἵν ᾿ i nN Pg eras Meat , ἘΠῊΝ i 5 ἰὴ ες ~ aPxe = i adi Υ Mi " me bn AY et yal fy Hake 4 ἃ , ὃν η RL REE “ὦ a * ἵ ᾿ + Ter vt τ 3 ΙΣ os J a, ἢ ᾿ 4 ἅν. An PREFACE. THE present work is a continuation of an edition of Plato's Thezetetus which appeared at Oxford in 1861. Where these are inconsistent with each other, the editor hopes that his later will be found to correct his earlier views. Bekker’s various readings from thirteen MSS., and Stallbaum’s from the six collated by him, have been carefully consulted in revising the text. It is to be regretted that later editors of Plato have not had the opportunity of collating the seven MSS. which Bekker saw in Italy in 1817-18, but does not refer to in his Commentary. Schneider also, in his edition of the Republic, mentions having seen at Florence a MS. containing the Politicus, which appeared to him to be of considerable value. The readings of the Bodleian MS. are fully re- corded by Gaisford in his Lectiones Platonice, the publication of which led Bekker to dispense φ 6) PREFACE. with his intended visit to Oxford (“nolui actum agere”). The MS., however, has been consulted afresh, and several new readings from it will be found in the notes, for the most part of little moment, and agreeing with Vat. A. and Ven. II. The special errors of the Bodleian, as of other MSS. of the calligraphi, are generally of a super- ficial kind. The omission of accents and of the iota of the imperfect diphthongs is curiously fre- quent. In these dialogues this MS. has only one instance of contraction, viz. owe for οὐράνῳ in Polit. 273 c. But there is, perhaps, evidence of the earlier use of contractions in the mistaken expansion of ἄκρων into ἀκριβῶν (Theeet. 148 c), and of πραγμάτειαν into παραδειγμάτειαν (Polit. 279 a). Compare Phileb. 36 e: πάσαις ἀφροσύναις Vv. 1. παρα- φροσύναις. Corrupt places have been marked with obeli, and the most probable corrections are printed in large type in the notes. Words whose authority is doubtful, from their omission in some MSS., are bracketed. A few conjectural emendations, which appeared — highly probable, have been admitted or retained from former editions. These are marked with asterisks, that the reader may have some intima- tion of the state of the text. PREFACE. 9 The Sophist has been edited in Germany, with explanatory notes, by Heindorf and Stallbaum : the Politicus only by Stallbaum, who, although abundantly familiar with Plato, is inferior to Heindorf in taste and judgment. Many scholars have contributed to the elucidation of particular points. But these dialogues, perhaps more than most other ancient writings, require for their interpretation that they should be taken as a separate whole, and studied by their own light. To δ᾽ αἴτιον, ὡς οἶμαι, προϊοῦσιν οὐχ ἧττον ἔσται καταφανές. (Polit. 287 b.) ἢ ae | ΓΜ δι} , | i ee EG PO Aa iT Ba ’ : I ' ᾿ | c ἢ ἷ ͵ i 7 ᾿ i ἡ Ὶ 7 ‘ “yy Me ‘ τὰ . ‘ xt 4 ᾿ 4 \ ‘ oa rs \ ' Es i ᾿ Bs > , x ; ὦ ἘΞ ͵ ὦ" | . ae . ᾿ Ἷ i } 2 ἽἹ i: ἜΣ ee Ἷ Ξ- i Ἢ) dee i THE SOPHIST AND STATESMAN Or ΡΙΑΤΟ. GENERAL INTRODUCTION. AS the discovery of truth and the direction of life are the twofold function of philosophy, so Plato saw a twofold counter- feit of his ideal educator and governor in the professors of wisdom and the public men of his time. The one corrupted in- quiry with controversy, the other spoiled politics with faction. These Sophists and party leaders seemed to exhaust between them the serious interest of the Greek world; for the poets, sculptors, painters, and other “imitators with their child’s play,” were by this time of less account. There might be jealousies between these two great powers, who formed the itellect and heart of every state, but they were usually in league, and together held the public ear. Rarely, either in the present or the past, might be traced the footprints of a more august presence; of a Divine spirit “coming down in the hkeness”’ of sage or legislator. Such glimpses of the Phi- losopher and true potentate were few and far between, and he had always been either misunderstood or rejected by man- kind. The writer of these dialogues, whom for the present we assume to be Plato, seems to have viewed this spectacle with a feeling strangely mixed of curiosity, interest, and scorn. In approaching his subject by a circuitous track, he makes inquiry the vehicle of satire, and satire of inquiry. But it is not to be inferred from this that the inquiry or even the per- plexity which he exhibits here is merely ironical. On the b il GENERAL INTRODUCTION. contrary, Plato is nowhere more intensely speculative, nor is the aim of his discussion anywhere more real. This appears even trom the form in which the questions are asked. In other dialogues the character of Gorgias or Protagoras, Thra- symachus or Polus, is dramatized, and certain hints thrown out as to the nature of their profession; casual remarks are made on the career of Pericles, Themistocles, and other servants of the state: but here not a single name is mentioned; the spirit of inquiry (as described in the Thestetus) refuses to descend to individuals or to things near at hand, and the ideal Sophist, the ideal Statesman, each character in the utmost generality, is at once represented and defined. Again, in other dialogues certain abstract questions are proposed, such as, What is cou- rage, prudence, justice? and in the Thezetetus, What is know- ledge? But even “Sophistic” is not a purely abstract con- ception: the Sophists were a real class of persons, having, as Plato believed, certain common characteristics. The state also is an essentially complex thing, and the statesman can only be known in relation to the state. This union of the universal and the real, this personifying of a general notion, this attempt to descend into the complexity of life without losing hold of metaphysical conceptions, may be regarded, even on an external view, as a leading peculiarity of these two dialogues. And the form in this case truly indicates the substance; for these writings are, together with the Thezetetus, the most dis- tinct record which remains to us of a great effort, of which other traces are found in the Parmenides and Philebus, by which Plato endeavoured to bridge over the gulf which the first impulse of philosophy had made between the absoluteness of Knowledge and Being and the relativeness of Sensation and Appearance. In some dialogues the phenomenal side of this antithesis, while dramatically represented with great liveliness, is dialectically annihilated; opinion, custom, the conceit of knowledge, are brought on the stage with ironical circumstance for a prepared overthrow; and the difficulty is stated, but not fully met—How can virtue, not based on science, be virtue at all? But here the same difficulty is presented in a more general aspect. The hollowness of pretended wisdom, and the futility of existing governments, are taken for granted or summarily proved. But the question 15, How can the real and the apparent, the ideal GENERAL INTRODUCTION. iil and actual, coexist? And yet they must. For the non- existent cannot be the object of attack; and unless true ideas can be brought to bear on the actual circumstances of men, there is no hope of remedying the evils of which the world is full. This speculative doubt, while giving rise to certain changes in Plato’s theory of Knowledge, forms the link be- tween these dialogues and the Theetetus. That their con- nexion with that dialogue is not merely outward, is the more probable because the Thesxtetus, though ending, like the Philebus, with a promise of further talk, wears no appearance of being the first instalment of a larger design. But if, as would appear from this, the two dialogues were conceived and written at a later time, their author would not, without good reason, present them as a continuation of an earlier writing. And it may be regarded as a sufficient reason, that he was now engaged with the more objective phase of the same anti- thesis, of which the subjective aspect was developed in the Thezetetus; for the opposition between the Absolute and Relative, which the mind experiences in contrasting Know- ledge with Sensation and Opinion, is also seen by her as the contrast between the Real and the Unreal, and between the Ideal and the Actual; when, for instance, the pretended wise man is compared with the true lover of wisdom, and the great men of this world with the perfect King. The chief aim of each inquiry, however, is not so much to point the antithesis, as to draw together the opposite poles; to find room for the relative beside the absolute; to obtain a meeting-point between idea and fact. As in the Theetetus the question, ‘‘ How is false opinion possible?”? was met by an unsuccessful effort to conceive the mode in which thought acts on sensation and memory, so in the ‘“‘Sophist” there is raised the parallel question, How can that which is not, appear to be? And this doubt is, for the present at least, removed by raising Difference (i.e. Negation) to the rank of an idea or category, which has “communion” with, or participates in, Reality or Being, and may thus become the object of thought. The cor- responding difficulty in the Politicus has a double aspect. First, What place is there for an ideal of government at all? This question is answered by the supposition of alternate cycles, in which the world is first guided and then left alone by God. b2 1V GENERAL INTRODUCTION. Secondly, How is science to be applied to government during the inferior cycle in which we now live? The latter question is only provisionally answered; but in a way which points to the conception of an accommodation or δεύτερος πλοῦς, which Plato afterwards embodied in the Laws. The main difficulty which assumes these different forms (that of the relation of ideas to phenomena) is clearly stated in the Parmenides (to which dialogue allusion is made in the Thea- tetus, and again in the Sophist), and receives a passing notice at the opening of the Philebus. And the final elucidation of the whole subject, the delineation of the bright form of Being, the reconcilement of the speculative with the practical reason, and the attainment of a perfect method, were probably the destined task of the “ Philosopher,” a dialogue which was to have ended this series or tetralogy of dialogues, but which it does not appear that Plato ever composed. Whether he in- stinctively turned back from an impossible enterprize, or whe- ther, after he had once descended into the phenomenal world, ethical and cosmical interests predominated over the merely speculative, it is clear that the aspiration after an ideal certainty which appears in these dialogues, and also in the Republic and elsewhere, but which is here combined with a promise that the very exactness of truth (αὐτὸ τἀκριβές, Polit. 284 4) shall be hereafter displayed, is nowhere satisfied. Nor was the hope attainable in the infancy of science. But it is not unlikely that Plato intended to place this keystone of the dialectical fabric when he should take in hand to define the Philosopher. We have before us, therefore, the middle portion of an unfinished work, looking backwards on the Thezetetus, pro- bably across an interval (with a momentary glance at the Parmenides), and forwards to an unwritten dialogue. Having taken note of this, we may draw a little closer,—to a point, however, from which the two dialogues can still be taken in one view. There are marked and obvious differences be- tween them. But these will be better seen when they are examined separately: in a general survey it is more im- portant to notice, without exaggerating, the features which they have in common. § 1. The subjects of both dialogues are nearly related to GENERAL INTRODUCTION, V each other. The Sophist and Statesman were, as already noticed, the main representatives of the world as it then was, of the leading thoughts and principles of Plato’s contempo- raries. Could these typical men be reduced under definitions ¢ Was a scientific knowledge of them possible? Did the vague- ness of the science which they professed extend also to them- selves? In what relation did the Sophist stand to the Philo- sopher, or the members of existing governments to the true King? There is however this difference of treatment: that whereas the “ Sophist” is from the beginning a search for the definition of pretended knowledge, the distinction between reality and pretence only appears in the Politicus towards the close. § 2. In both an extreme or premature ideal theory is modi- fied: in the Sophist the dictum of Parmenides annihilating “ Not-Being ;” in the Politicus the Pythagorean notion of a theocracy under the Divine King. The mere abstract ‘ num- bers” of the same school, are exchanged in the Politicus (an another connexion) for a relative standard determined by the idea of Good (τὸ μέτριον) ; and, in the Sophist, either the same Pythagoreans, or the Megarians, or some of Plato’s own followers, are criticized as the “ Friends of Ideas.” § 3. In both there is a deep vein of irony, or rather of satire. The assertion of Socher, that in these dialogues the Socratic irony is silent, could only be justified if it had been meant that the irony is rather that of Plato. The humour with which the chase after the Sophist is maintained, the fear of his great cunning, the solemnity with which he is described as a soul-purifier ; and in the Politicus, the notion of the crane exalting himself at man’s expense, the quiet substitution of Lydians and Phrygians for Hellenes as distinguished from Barbarians, and the description of a state in which navigation and medicine should be administered according to legal pre- scription, are touches of an irony singularly Platonic. It is true that the wild playfulness of the Phedrus and the dramatic liveliness of the Republic are absent, and that the humour is not unmixed with bitterness; but the occasional shadow of misanthropy is not more unlike the caustic cheerfulness of the Gorgias and Meno, than is the sad smile and sober colouring of the Laws. Two points may be noticed in which vi GENERAL INTRODUCTION. the dialectical method conveys the effect of irony. First, it is remarked that science is a great leyeller, she cares equally for small and great; hence the physician and the bath- man are equally good examples of the purifier; the general is a species of huntsman, so is the vermin-killer ; priest, pro- phet, archon-basileus, are servants equally with the shopkeeper and the household slave. Akin to this is the mode in which the Sophist is thrust down by the process of divisions, and is found in a low place amongst the class of imitators; just as Pleasure in the Philebus, after aiming at the highest rank, has assigned to her, by the same process, the fifth and lowest. § 4. Both dialogues are pervaded, or rather haunted, by the idea of scientific method. Every inquiry, even that con- cerning Government, is held to be important, chiefly as an exercise by which the dialectical faculty may be improved. The nature and function of this power are described in each dialogue in language which forcibly recals the well-known passages of the Phedrus and Philebus, and which even the most doubtful critic must admit to have a Platonic flavour. “To distinguish things according to their kinds, and neither to account the same form to be another nor another to be the same, is surely the work of dialectic. And the dialectician is he who adequately perceives one idea pervading many separate things, and many distinct ideas embraced by one, and many such wholes pervaded and knit together in one crowning form,—many also completely isolated and sundered. And what is this but to know how to distinguish the respects in which each kind admits or rejects communion with other kinds?” (Soph. 253 d, e.) “ But because they have not been accustomed to distinguish the subject of an inquiry into its forms, they not only confound things so widely different as the More and the Too-much, the moment they see a similarity between them, but fall also into the converse error of dividing things not according to their parts ; whereas the right way 15, when one first perceives com- munity in a multitude of things, not to desist till one have seen all the differences contained within that common nature, all, that is, which rest upon any logical distinction; and on the other hand when dissimilarities are seen in a mass of objects, the eye should be incapable of contentment or rest, GENERAL INTRODUCTION. vil until one have confined all that is kindred within the pale of one resemblance, and fenced them round with the new crea- tion of a single kind or category.” (Polit. 285 a—c.) The notions of Sameness and Difference, and of the corre- sponding arts of collection or combination, and division or distinction (συναγωγή, διαίρεσις, συγκριτική, διακριτική), are pro- minent in many places of these dialogues. The Elenchus is described as purifying, that is, dividing the good from the bad. The chief “ kinds” next to Being, are Same and Other. Dialectic is the science of the communion and exclusion of kinds, and language itself would be impossible without a similar process of combination and distinction. And these logical forms have also a practical bearing ; for the art of the true statesman, like that of the weaver, consists in com- bining elements which have been first separated and purified. Thus it appears that the process of classification, involving generalization and division (συναγωγή and διαίρεσις), is only a particular application of a form of thought to which a meta- physical and a practical as well as a logical importance is attributed. But it has been felt that the_ “ dichotomous” classifications of these dialogues are a caricature of method, and are unlike anything which is to be found elsewhere in Plato. “Are we to suppose,” it has been asked*, “that the Dichotomous Method of the Sophistes Dialogue (I may add of the Politicus, for the method is the same in this dialogue also) is the method of division of a subject according to its natural members, of which Plato speaks in the Phedrus?” Is it the same, it may be further asked, which Plato has him- self used in the Phedrus, Gorgias, Philebus, Republic, and elsewhere ? The likeness is unmistakeable, (compare espe- cially the close of the “ Sophist” with that of the Philebus and of the sixth book of the Republic); but so also is the differ- ence, consisting partly in the extent to which the method is carried, and partly in the arbitrary and superficial character of some of the divisions, when compared with the dialectical analysis of madness in the Pheedrus, or with that of pleasure in the Philebus. And although there is no reason to suppose that the division of each kind into two parts only was a novelty (for this is required in the Philebus), there appears a further a By Dr. Whewell. Cambridge Phil. Soc. Tr. vol. ix. pt. 4. p. 594. vill GENERAL INTRODUCTION, refinement on this notion, when, in the Politicus (262 b), the pupil is advised to divide each as nearly as possible in half. It has been suggested, in order to explain this difference, that the Theztetus and Sophista (with the Politicus) were meant respectively to serve as examples of the two parts of the Dialectic process; the Thestetus of συναγωγή, the Sophista and Politicus of διαίρεσις. But although the Thestetus affords many good specimens of Socratic induction, it is not less fertile in the negative instances by which that induction was tested. Generalization thus alternates with distinction or division”. On the other hand, no more striking example of συναγωγή could be given than the generalization of θηρευτική in the Sophist, or the seven categories of industry in the Politicus. And in the latter dialogue a separate discussion is devoted to the subject of example, that is, the act of bringing resemblances together (συνάγειν). The existence of such an intention, then, can hardly be established, and the comparison of the Thesx- tetus only throws the characteristic peculiarity of these dia- logues into stronger relief. We learn from a comic fragment® (quoted at length by Dr.Thompson of Cambridge, in his paper on the genuineness of the Sophista) that when Plato, Speusippus, and Menedemus were together in the Academy, they and their scholars were ridi- culed for their endless minute classification of natural objects ; and Aristotle speaks more than once of “ written divisions” (γεγραμμέναι διαιρέσεις), which, as they seem in some points to have coincided with those advanced in these dialogues, may be conjectured to have been extant in the school of Plato. It seems not improbable that this new passion for classification as a me- thod of science, which had a germ in Socrates and the Eleaties, and ripened afterwards into the analytic of Aristotle, was in full bloom at the Academy when these dialogues were written, and that Plato, who entered into every phase of thought, but Ξε τς συναγωγῇ, διαίρεσις, ἐπιστήμη = αἴσθησις" ἐπιστήμη οὐκ αἴσθησις" ᾧ αἰσθανόμεθα -- ψυχή. δόξα ἀληθής, ψευδής" ἀληθὴς μετὰ λόγου" ἀληθής κίνησις = ἀλλοίωσις, φορά. ο Athen. II. 59; Com. Gr. Fr. VIII. p. 370, ed. Meineke. GENERAL INTRODUCTION. 1X was entirely possessed by none, took up the method, as he takes up that of etymologies in the Cratylus, “for the day.” This may account for the unusual number of the divisions. But how is the peculiar nature of many of them to be ex- plained ? a. First, the lesson is meant to be progressive. Thus the external and superficial character of some distinctions is at once accounted for by the often-repeated Platonic maxim, that the elements of truth must be spelt out in easy syllables, before the meaning of truth can be read. The most obvious data of sense and experience are the primer of thought. The simplest examples are chosen to illustrate principles of reason, not as being adequate, but because they can be apprehended at once. But there may be also traced in the method of these dia- logues a progress of a deeper kind. The argument of the Thestetus, though generally destructive, left two results: first, that the mind gathers from the impressions of different senses certain common perceptions; and secondly, that know- ledge and right opinion imply distinction, 1. 6. definition by the characteristic difference. This definition by difference, we will suppose, was becoming recognised as an organ of know- ledge, and the youth of Plato’s school were delighted with their new exercise. We can imagine them, according to their master’s description, rejoicing as if they had found a treasure of inexhaustible wisdom, first rolling up the ball and then unrolling and dividing, and never content till they had made everybody else to share their wonder. The negative aspect of Socratic inquiry, the controversial dialectic of Zeno, the Pythagorean συστοιχίαι, had all contributed something to the intellectual fashion now in vogue. In the “ Sophist” Plato chooses to con- verse with this “old friend with a new face,” he will assay to prove this weapon, which is obviously two-edged, and no less available for controversy than for inquiry. He begins with an example, which he executes in the most approved style, and the method is found to be abundantly adequate to define the fisherman. Then he tries several passes at the Sophist, but does not transfix him, though the creature is soon driven into a corner, and his enemy exults in an approaching triumph, when suddenly the wily monster disarms him and turns against him his own weapon. (Soph. 239 d.) c x GENERAL INTRODUCTION. The exclusive divisions by which the game has been so far pursued proceeded on the ground that Difference meant logical exclusion; that, for instance, because making is dif- ferent from acquiring, production and acquisition cannot be attributes of the same art: and we have been surprised to see the Sophist starting up on the left side of the cordon which we had drawn, when we thought to have secured him on the right. At last he seems to be convicted of pretence, that is of appearing to be what he is not. He retorts that “ what- is-not” has no Being, and can neither be defined nor criti- cized: a position which is only met by reconsidering the whole question of negation and difference, and also of Being, in a discussion where the vaunted method of exclusions is laid aside. It is at last found that ideas which are distinguished from each other may still be mutually related. Whereon follows the remark that mere “ oppositions of science” are not philosophy. (Soph. 259.) The effect of this discovery may be traced in the Politicus. Not only are the two elements of generalization and distinction much more nearly balanced (it was always im- possible for either of them to be entirely absent), but more care is taken to define the relation between the members of each division. The respondent is significantly warned that every logical segment must be a natural part, and have a form of its own, i. 6. that the distinction must have a rational ground or principle; he is told that the external resemblances and differences of objects are easily mastered, but that there are qualities of another sort, which cannot be perceived with- out a “vision and a faculty divine.” A mistake arising from dividing without generalizing sufficiently is corrected; side by side with the partition of science appears “the interrogation of every nature, in order to learn what special contribution — each has to offer from the store of experience to the treasury of wisdom ;” and we are reminded that it is not enough to define a subject by a single characteristic difference, for that nothing is completely known, until all other species, at least those of the same genus, have been also distinguished and defined. (Pol. 262, 285 e, 275, 272 6, 281 6.) Thus mere logical division by means of negatives is criticized by Plato on nearly the same ground as by Aristotle, who ob- jects that a negative term as such is not divisible. “ Aristotle,” GENERAL INTRODUCTION. xi says Mr. G. H. Lewes, “ has here pointed out the scientific error of all classification founded on negatives, and his criti- cism reaches even the familiar division founded by Lamarck between vertebrata and invertebrata. The vertebrata form a natural division, characterized by an obvious peculiarity, but to lump together all other animals, no matter how manifestly different, merely on the negative character of their having no vertebral column, is, except as a provisional expedient, eminently unphilosophic.” But Plato employs division by exclusions precisely as a provisional expedient. His object is not the classification of many things but the definition of one*. He never attempts to divide a class which is only known by a negative characteristic’. And he has himself striven to remedy the defect in question; for he has observed that things are not perfectly distinguished until the mutually exclusive positive qualities of both are known. 8. Further, the end of this progressive lesson in dialectic is not to exalt a formal method, but to quicken and regulate the free action of the inquiring mind. Plato never conceived, as some modern philosophers have done, that a new method could possibly level intellects, or become a substitute for inven- tion. He never imagines a form of thinking as separable from thought. His dialectic is not a dead organon, but an inspiration, a divine gift, which may be imperfectly described im words, and by oral teaching may be awakened and stimu- lated in the philosophic nature, but cannot be once for all embodied in a book of aphorisms or a Chrestomathy. Dialectic is the right application to the highest subjects of the twin operations of distinction and combination, which are present as elements in the simplest exercise of the reason: whether the difference and resemblance noted be that of two fingers or of two virtues, the process is essentially the same. But thought is liable to perversion, and Plato is never weary of distinguish- ing argument from controversy (διαλεκτικὴ from ἀντιλογικὴ or ἃ This remark also supplies an an- swer to the other objection of Ari- stotle, that the species of a genus are by this method sometimes unnaturally separated (e. g. birds are divided be- tween the land and water animals), and to Mr. Grote’s observation that Plato would have objected to class the wolf with the dog. © He always follows the ‘right hand” section: κατὰ τοὐπὶ δεξιὰ ἀεὶ μέρος τοῦ τμηθέντος. Soph. 264 6. Cc 2 Xil GENEKAL INTRODUCTION. ἐριστική). Perhaps controversy is too respectable a name for that ape of the Klenchus, a barren hybrid between Zenonian and Socratic method, which seems to have been a fayourite pastime in the schools of Athens as well as Megara. The faults which Plato assigns to the devotees of this “ illogical logic” of disputation are chiefly the following. (1) They con- fused verbal with real agreement and difference. (2) They assumed that agreement and difference must mutually exclude each other not only in idea but in fact’. (3) They argued about first principles when consequences were in question, and vice versa. (Pheed. 101 6.) (4) They generalized too hastily both in the way of induction and deduction. (Phileb. 17.) (5) They chose sensible in the place of ideal distinctions. (6) They substituted abstract reasoning from a single isolated notion for real inquiry into the nature of things. (7) They preferred the exercise of logical ingenuity to the common interests of mankind. (‘* Water, the cheapest of commodities, is the best, says Pindar,” Euthyd, 304 b.) (8) From the want of any true command of ideas, they distinguished in the wrong place and failed to distinguish in the right. These errors arose in great measure from making victory and not truth the end of discussion, and the mental result of the pro- cess was a vain-glorious scepticism. Such at least is Plato’s ver- dict on the character and tendency of much of the intellectual activity of his day. And he has occasionally, even in the person of Socrates, given not unconscious illustration of this Attic euphuism, just as our own master of thought and ex- pression sometimes condescended ‘to speak most infallibly” in the “ conceited” vein of his contemporaries. Now it is a chief purpose of the present dialogues to coun- teract this vice of the reason, by conveying wholesome ideas about logical method. And one idea which they convey with tolerable clearness, by example if not by precept, is that the right course to be followed in an inquiry cannot be altogether prescribed by rules, but is in great measure the direct result of original thought and inventive power in the inquirer. f Plato seizes upon this as the key- gested, in the infancy of logic, the stone of their method, a principle bor- notion that positive and negative attri- rowed from the Eleatics,who in saying, butes are absolutely incommunicable. “* Being is,” “ Not-Being is not,” sug- & Cf. especially Pheedr. 269 e. GENERAL INTRODUCTION. ΧΙ Whether the method of divisions or some other shall be em- ployed, what general form shall be selected for the primary division, where to draw the line in each subdivision, when to introduce example and comparison, when to exchange logical for metaphysical reasoning, and when to seek the aid of imagination; all such points are entirely left to the prescient insight and selective judgment of the leader of the discussion. y. Another lesson not doubtfully taught in these pages is, that the subtilty of nature is not exhausted by a single line of classification. The several paths by which the Sophist is approached, and the shorter and longer way to the definition of the genus Homo in the Politicus (not to dwell now on the ironical humour of this passage), shew that method has not yet stiffened into system. The division of the arts of life not into two but seven distinct “limbs,” warrants the same inference, which is strengthened by the comparison of other dialogues (see next section), and by the playful and satirical uses of generalization and division noticed above. (§ 3.) In both dia- logues the “divisions” at the opening and the close belong rather to the framework than the substance of the thought, and the real movement of the argument is almost wholly in- dependent of this outward form; though certainly not inde- pendent of the great laws of agreement and difference, of which Plato’s συναγωγή and διαίρεσις are the expression. Plato’s views on method, when thus stated, may appear strangely simple, as the errors to which they are opposed were gross; but the errors, however gross, were typical: and his thoughts, however simple, may find many an instruc- tive application in the later history of science. That all true method is an extension of the natural operation of the mind, and, instead of making inquiry an easy task for all men, is inseparable from that last and highest acquisition and gift, the philosophic spirit, are maxims of which the schoolmen and Bacon were equally in need. The “ prudens questio” of the latter (the “mental initiative” of Coleridge) is a notion which, at the expense of consistency, redeems the misconception of a levelling method by approaching to the Platonic point of view. Nor is it fair to speak of the method which Plato approved as merely subjective (G. H. Lewes), in the face of his protest ΧΙΥ͂ GENERAL INTRODUCTION. against the arbitrary manipulation of logical forms. His metaphysical ardour does not prevent him from blaming, but rather constrains him to chastise those who in their frigid ingenuity closed their eyes to the light of facts. THis faith in dialectic was, in other words, a faith in an order of the Uni- verse which could be discovered by the patient use of genuine inquiry, and by this alone. Although verification, in the modern sense, was almost entirely absent from his method, and his idea of “nature” was of course different from that which later discoveries have made familiar ; yet the importance which he attaches to the duty of following the real lines and veins of things as they are, of “hitting the joint” in carving the body of truth, and, what amounts to the same thing, the stress which he lays on the distinction between an accidental and a natural part (μέρος and εἶδος, a mere:portion and ἃ form), are indications of a general conception of the: task. of philosophy, which is not to be confounded with the ‘German notion of evolving thought from itself, or the Scotch method of introspection in psychology. How facts are to be ascertained, he has not determined ; but that the discoveries of the true phi- losopher are matters of fact, and not mere notions of his own mind, is an axiom without which much that he has written would be unintelligible. But it is no less an axiom with him that every true fact is also an idea, and were it not so would be incognizable ; and that the only real concatenation of things as they are, is that which dialectic gradually reveals to the inquiring reason. Would Bacon have said otherwise, if “form” were substituted for “idea,” and for ‘ dialectic” the “ interro- gation of nature,” a phrase which occurs almost verbatim in Plato’s Politicus? Or will any modern reasoner dispute the assertion that the Laws of Nature are only discoverable by the right exercise of Mind? Plato’s contribution to the positive science of Method was indeed most simple, but, at that juncture in the history of philosophy, of extreme value. Not to anticipate further here, what must be described at length in examining the “ Sophist,” his position is briefly this, that to divorce analysis from syn- thesis, negation from affirmation, variety from unity, distinc- tion from mutual relation, is fatal to the mterests of inquiry. h Compare Protag. 329 d. GENERAL INTRODUCTION. XV “Cupid comes forth from an egg whereon Night hath brooded, i.e. Knowledge is obtained by exclusions and nega- tives.” Yes, but Knowledge is affirmative, and the negations are seen in the result, only like the dark spaces on a polarized spectrum, caused, as natural philosophers tell us, by the mu- tual interferences of waves of light. A contrast and a parallel, both taken from within the limits of the Platonic dialogues, may fitly conclude this section. a. When the peculiar form of dialectical exercise which at first sight appears to reign in the Sophist and Statesman, ‘is compared with that of the more purely Socratic dialogues, abstracting from the Pythagorean notion of bisection and the Eleatic absoluteness of distinction, this mode of handling a subject appears like an abridgment of Socratic procedure. From long familiarity with the successive steps, the disciple is ready for a more summary process, and a generalization and distinction to which Socrates would have led the way through a morning of ironical banter, is now disposed of by a few rapid strokes. The argument from pleasure being the good to science being virtue, which fills several pages of the Pro- tagoras, would not have occupied ten lines of the Sophist. And a further stage of this transition from conversational profuseness towards scientific exactness and compression may be observed in the latter of these two dialogues, where the dichotomies, by which the art of weaving is defined, are enu- merated in close succession in a single sentence; a doubly condensed form of intellectual nutriment, which proves too strong for the respondent to assimilate at once. (Pol. 279 e— 2,80 b.) B. The parallel of the Philebus will be frequently suggested as we proceed by many likenesses of style and structure. We now confine ourselves to one point, which bears immediately on the question of method. There is a passage near the opening of that dialogue (p. 16) which distinguishes the right from the wrong application of the eternal opposition and inter- change of the One and the Many to the analysis and synthesis of ideas. It is interesting to examine hew far the directions there given correspond to the procedure here employed. “In every enquiry we should set before us one idea, which we shall find, if we look for it, in the subject of our investiga- Χν] GENERAL INTRODUCTION. tion.” So in each of these inquiries the idea of Knowledge, or of a person who knows, is immediately recognised and selected for analysis. ‘And in this one idea we must look for two, if we can find two, or if not two, then the smallest number pos- sible.” This rule is also strictly followed, which is the more noticeable, because no such principle is laid down in the Pha- drus. In the case of the seven “summa genera” of civil life (Polit. 287 ¢), we are expressly told that it is impossible to divide them into two parts; and it would be obviously difficult to reduce the number, except by an abscissio infiniti, which would be out of place, because some of the kinds which are in direct competition with the kingly art would then be left undefined. ‘ We must then proceed to subdivide these units, until we see, not only that the one idea is both one and many, but also how many are its real subdivisions.” In the Sophist and Politicus, as well as in the Pheedrus, the notion of the ἄτμητον εἶδος, or species infima, has an important place (ef. Soph. 289 d), and the danger of passing at once from the highest generality to the lowest specialty is exemplified (e. g. Polit. 263). “In like manner, when one is compelled to start from the indefinite (in cases where there is not immediately apparent a single comprehensive idea), he ought not all at once to spring from infinity to unity, but should find a number in the undis- tinguished mass, and so proceed from number to number until he reaches unity.” (Phil. 18 b.) It is more dificult to prove that this precept is exactly obeyed. But the cautious spirit thus enjomed may be illustrated from several instances of gradual generalization, as where the speakers ery a halt to count up the number of forms in which the Sophist has appeared, previous to one of these being selected as the most universally applicable (Soph. 231 d); or where from the narrower generalization, “nurture of men,” they pass on to the wider conception of “care or superintendence of men” (Polit. 275); or where from the comparison of the king and the weaver (implying a provisional generalization) is evolved the more general notion of an art of combination (συγκριτική) (Ib. 282 b). § 5. The forms of Sameness and Difference appear in the Sophist amongst the five kinds or forms which are selected GENERAL INTRODUCTION. XVil for examination as being the “ greatest,” or the most universal. “ Being,” the highest of all, was found to embrace the oppo- site principles of “ motion,” the essence of the materialist, and “rest,” that of the idealist philosopher. On comparing these three “‘ kinds,” each is seen to have sameness and difference,— to be the same with itself, different from the other two. And these predicates of sameness and difference are found to be no less universally applicable than the form of Being. Thus Being, Sameness, and Difference, to use Aristotelian language, are universal predicaments, or categories. Everything, of which we can speak, exists, is the same in one relation, different in others, and is either at rest or in motion or both in different ways. “ Number” is incidentally mentioned in the same dia- logue (238 b) as being also an inseparable attribute of every possible term. Again, in the latter part of the Politicus, there is an enume- ration of seven kinds, as an ultimate division of the industries which are the helpers of the ruling power in a state. These are — raw-material, instruments, reservoirs, vehicles, cover- ings, amusements, food. To these swmma genera of human labour is added the work of servants of every sort. And it is not obscurely implied, that with the addition of the royal science as a moving and regulating cause, this enumeration affords an exhaustive analysis of human activity. Thus in both dialogues there is seen a tendency to select certain natures or ideas as being the highest and most comprehensive, either of all ideas, or of the ideas belonging to a particular subject. If we except the Timzeus, where something similar is observ- able in the constitution of the Psychical Substance (p. 35) and in the five elements, which however are not viewed as by any means ultimate’, the only other dialogue where there is a similar enumeration of categories is the Philebus, where Being is analyzed into Limit, the Unlimited, their union, and the cause of this; and the end of Being, or the good, is embraced in five kinds, Measure, Symmetry, Reality, Mind, and Pleasure. An approach, however, to a similar notion may be traced in two places of the Theetetus: first, where the ideas selected as the undoubted objects of pure mind are Being, Not-Being, i Tim. 48 Ὁ: οὐδ᾽ ἐν συλλαβῆς εἴδεσι μόνον. A remarkable anticipation of modern chemistry. d XVill GENERAL INTRODUCTION. Sameness and Difference, Likeness and Unlikeness, and Num- > of the mind, while most of the “birds” or knowledges are collected in larger or smaller groups, a few are seen careering through every part. (Thezt. 197 6.) This peculiarity of these three dialogues, Philebus, Sophista, Politicus, affords a point of comparison or rather of approxi- mation between Plato and Aristotle. The only previous attempt at ultimate classification had been the συσστοιχίαι of the Pythagoreans, and in the greater number of Plato’s dia- logues, even where ideas (or forms) are mentioned, there 15 no selection of a certain number as supreme and as embracing all others, except partially in the case of moral ideas. Even when the form of good is described in the Republic as surpass- ing in glory and dignity the idea of Being, this saying has rather a cosmological and ethical than a logical or metaphy- sical meaning. But here not only is the word γένος for the first time* employed in the technical sense, but each of the terms so described is viewed as a universal, containing a variety of species, and obtained by a process of induction (συναγωγή. See Phileb. p. 25); and each enumeration is, for the time being, and in relation to the particular question raised, regarded as ultimate. This is therefore a nearer approach to a doctrine of categories than the casual reference to quantity (Soph. 245 d, Phileb. 24 ὁ), quality (Rep. 4, 438 Ὁ, Theszet. 182 b), relation (Soph. 255 ¢, Phil. 51 c), action and passion (Thezet. and Soph.), in scattered passages. But the categories of Plato are not connected with the theory of Predication, towards which, as appears even from Soph. 261 ο, Plato had made but little progress. Even those of the “‘ Sophist” are rather ontological than logical, and are more nearly analogous to the “four causes” of the Metaphysics: denoting, to use a convenient distinction of Plotinus, rather the elements than the kinds of Bemg. And he is less bound than Aristotle to his own forms of thought. The enumeration is In no two places the same. In the highest region of dia- lectic Plato still asserts the freedom of Mind. He “stands ber); and again, where in the “ aviary’ i Theet. 185 ἃ. Compare Parmenides, p. 129 e, where Rest and Motion are added to these. k The only exception is in Phedrus, 271 b. GENERAL INTRODUCTION. ΧΙΧ behind” the forms which he has invented to express what cannot be fully expressed, the electric play of thought. Col- lection and distinction, union and division, finite and infinite, same and other, one and many, Being and Not-Being, are various names for the two poles on whose attraction and repul- sion depend the “ high-strung harmonies” of the ideal world. § 6. Not less peculiar than the method of these dialogues is their structure, style, and diction, which, however, receive considerable illustration from the Philebus, Timeeus, and Laws. To take first what is most obvious, Socrates is no longer the chief speaker. A stranger from Elea, with whom Theodorus, Thextetus, and the younger Socrates have been conversing, _accompanies them to the place of meeting, where they are expected by Socrates; who, with his accustomed pertinacious politeness, brings on a conversation, but with the exception of a few words when there is a change of subject, is silent for the remainder of the morning. In this respect this pair of dialogues is like the Parmenides, Timeeus, and Critias, and resembles the two last named also in another equally external point, namely, that each pair form the middle part of an unfinished tetralogy. Plato has only twice thus connected dialogues in a series. The Theetetus, Sophist, Statesman, and Philosopher, are in this the counterpart of the Republic, Timeeus, Critias, and Hermocrates. The retirement of Socrates, however, though in keeping with, will not account for, the other peculiarities of which we are now to speak. For the few words assigned to him at the beginning partake of the general change of tone. Nor can this be ascribed to the subject; for the subjects of either dialogue, though related to each other, are wholly distinct. Every reader of Plato must have felt a difference in passing from the Republic or Pheedrus to the Sophist and Politicus; or, may it not be added? to the Philebus or the Laws. He is like one who, after walking with a gifted friend in town and country, and hearing him converse with all men, sits down to listen to a lecture from the same person. There is an air of self-imposed restraint, at the first glance distinguishable from the absolute conversational freedom of the Gorgias, a didactic tone, unlike the Socratic dissimulation of knowledge, a vein of refined and biting satire, which may be contrasted as well d 2 xx GENERAL INTRODUCTION. as compared with the naive and playful humour of the Pheedrus or Charmides. As the student proceeds, he is struck by the more elaborate, though not more regular conformation of the periods, by the more frequent, almost monotonous recurrence of a certain rhythmical cadence, which he may have noticed here and there in the Pheedrus, Republic, and Thezetetus', by the precision of manner into which the Socratic urbanity has been transformed. And if he examines more minutely into the diction, he will find that the natural order is more often inverted than in the dialogues with which he is familiar, and that a greater fondness is shewn for unusual words, both poetical and technical, than in any dialogue except the Phe- drus, Republic, Timeus, and Laws. In some respects the language approaches to that of tragedy, in others to the formality of an Aristotelian treatise. (1) To dwell a little more at length on some of these points: and first, on the more didactic and systematic manner of the con- versation. Nothing can exceed the courtesy and modesty both of Socrates and the Stranger in the opening scene, but when the Eleatic guest and his respondent have once crossed blades, he deals with him, not without pleasantry, but with a becoming degree of gravity, and secundum artem. There are no sallies, like those of Glaucon in the Republic, no sudden bursts of eloquence, as in the Pheedrus. With a tone of mild authority the philosopher, for the edification of the bystanders, guides his pupil by a path familiar to himself to conclusions which he foreknows. He acknowledges from the first that he is thoroughly conversant with the whole subject (διακηκοέναι γέ φησιν ἱκανῶς καὶ οὐκ ἀμνημονεῖν), and warns his new acquaint- ances that the argument will be a long one. The peculiarity in question is obviously shared by the Par- menides ; less obviously, though still perceptibly, by the Theetetus. It is also observable in the Philebus, Timzeus, and Laws. The Philebus has certainly more of the well-known playful- ness and familiarity of Socratic talk, more light and shade, and, in parts, more dramatic liveliness. The fine contrast, for example, between the eager Protarchus and the petulant 1 See also the myth in the Protagoras. GENERAL INTRODUCTION. XX1 Philebus is unlike the almost featureless masks of the facile respondents in these dialogues. But such lighter elements are controlled by a certain degree of formality, and by the con- sciousness of method. The speakers are playing at a “ labo- rious game ™,” to which they are evidently not unaccustomed, and which proceeds according to certain rules. We are not in the market-place, or the house of Callias, but in the groves of Academe. And though the “boys” are not quite so tractable as Thezetetus, Socrates guides them by a regularly intricate road to a definite end, which has a positive as well as a nega- tive import. The structure of the Philebus is in many ways nearer to the Sophist than that of either is to any other writing. As the ideal pretender is chased through the one dialogue, so the idea of pleasure, more or less personified, is hunted down in the other. The difficulties which arise in both are solved by means of a harmony of ideas (called in the Phi- lebus κόσμος τις ἀσώματος, a “ bodiless creation”). In both, the transitions (μεταβάσεις) of the argument are only surpassed in dialectical subtilty by the Theztetus. Both account for false- hood by a similar analysis of mental states; both examine contemporary philosophers as diviners of that which they do not clearly know. In both, higher subjects are discussed than that proposed at the outset, which is accordingly thrust down, in both by a similar method of divisions, to the lowest place in the scale of knowledge or of being. In some of these respects the Politicus also presents some analogy to the Philebus; and . they resemble each other in the importance which they both attach to the philosophy of Measure. On the whole, the style of the Philebus may be described as intermediate between that of the Republic and that of the Sophist. That of the Sophist and Politicus, again, is intermediate between the Philebus and the Timzeus and Laws. In these the gravity of tone already noticed is deepened into solemnity, and becomes the pervading characteristic. The keen though suppressed irony of the So- phist and Politicus, directed not towards the respondent, but against mankind, is here softened (like wine becoming first austere, then mellow), and either disappears, or is replaced by grave and gentle reflections on human nothingness. The τὰ Parm. 137 Ὁ: πραγματειώδη παιδιὰν παίζειν: XXil GENERAL INTRODUCTION. bitterness of a mind which had many thoughts which could not be realized, now takes the sober colouring of an eye “That hath kept watch o’er man’s mortality ;” and the didactic manner of the chief speaker is more decided. There is the most perfect modesty, but no dissimulation of knowledge. The leader of the conversation speaks with an authority to which the rest defer. The results, though still only approximate, are in the highest degree positive, and the method is throughout constructive. The thoughts of a life- time had assumed something like a permanent shape: and they were the writer’s own. ‘They were still living thoughts, and could give a reason of themselves; but they no longer needed the art of Socrates to bring them ‘into being. Cicero was substantially if not literally right in assuming the Athenian Stranger in the Laws to be Plato himself. (2) The loss of conversational freedom and _ liveliness is accompanied by a corresponding decline of poetical grace and power. The fire of enthusiasm is not extinct by any means, but is concentrated on a few great objects (Dialectic, Being, the Philosopher, the creation and preservation of the universe by God), and is less ready to light up with a spontaneous glow every new world of imagination. The language is less instinet with harmonious energy. ‘The fondness for poetic words is of the kind which belongs rather to a learned rhetoric than to poetry. The genius loci, so powerful in the Phzedrus, is here forgotten. The Eleatic Stranger is hke the Sophist he de- scribes, whose “ sense is shut” to everything but the dry hight of reason. Speaking in a palzestra, he alludes in the most distant and general way, when the topic is suggested by his argument, to “ certain exercises in which men are trained in groups at Athens and elsewhere.” (Polit. 294d.) Speaking at the time when Athens was ringing with the trial of Socrates, he never once alludes to a matter so sublunary. Indeed he expressly disowns any intention of giving pleasure, and lays down the principle that the standard by which the propor- tions of an argument are to be judged is not that of artistic symmetry. (Ib. 286 d.) Such was not the spirit of the pre- cept that “an argument must be like the picture of a lying ereature, having head and feet and every member drawn in GENERAL INTRODUCTION. XXill seemly proportion to each other and the whole.’ (Phedr. “64. 0.) It has been remarked that the allusions to previous writings, such as the Republic, which occur in the Laws, are unlike the manner of the earlier dialogues, where every touch is in perfect dramatic keeping. Now, not to mention the manifest allusion to the Parmenides in Soph. 217 ὁ (more pointed than in Theet. 183 6), the direct reference to the argument of the “ Sophist” im Polit. 284 Ὁ (καθάπερ ἐν τῷ σοφιστῇ προσηναγκάσαμεν εἶναι τὸ μὴ Ov), though not violating propriety, because the company is unchanged, has more of a literary than a dramatic turn, and is more in the manner of a treatise than of a dialogue. And this is still more obviously the case in Soph. 253 c, where the Stranger quotes the lan- guage of a conversation at which he had not been present. (Theeet. 172 ἃ.) (3) Yet although there is less of spontaneous movement and artistic lightness of structure than in some other dialogues, there is more appearance of studied order and arrangement. Thus a reason is given for the introduction of the example of the fisherman in the Sophist, and the example of the weaver in the Politicus occasions an explanation of the use and meaning of example as an instrument of thought. And in making the transition from the dichotomies to the myth in the same dialogue, the Stranger gives due notice of the change, and anticipates the course to be taken when they return from this digression. The “ preludes” and “ recapitulations” of which the Phedrus speaks so disdainfully are now recommended with some emphasis by Plato. This avowedly conscious and studied arrangement of the parts of a discourse is still more noticeable in the early books of the Laws, where, to explain the tediousness of the preliminary discussion, the speaker says (1, 638 e) that he is endeavouring to make apparent the right method to be pursued in all such arguments. He is in fact, like the Stranger in the Politicus, giving an Example of Example. Such carefulness about the form of a writing, at a time when the form was really becoming less perfect, and also the composition of great works, and the connexion of succes- sive pieces in a series, may be thought to indicate a different sense of the value of books from that expressed in a well- known passage of the Phedrus. And this suspicion is con- ΧΧΙΥ GENERAL INTRODUCTION. firmed by a striking expression in the Laws, where the chief speaker, reviewing the conversation which they had held since dawn, maintains that no better education could be devised for youth, than to learn by heart this new kind of poetry, which he and his companions haye poured forth, “ not unaccompanied with airs from Heaven.” (Lege. 7, 811 6.) § 7. (Δύναιτο δ᾽ ἄν τις, εἰ βούλοιτο, καὶ Tas ὑπὸ τοῦ Πλάτωνος ὀνομασθείσας τέχνας ταύτας ἐπαριθμεῖν, καὶ τὰ σὺν αὐταῖς ὀνόματα, εἴτε σπουδάζων ἐχρῆτο τοῖς ὀνόμασιν εἴτέ καὶ μή. λέγω δέ, διὰ τὸ ἐν ἐνίοις τῶν ὀνομάτων βιαιότερον χρῆσθαι. Pollux, Onomasticon, VIN. 55; 7.296) 7.) More palpable, though not more real, than these general nuances of style, are certain peculiarities of diction. Of these perhaps the most obvious to a cursory reader is the use of technical expressions. Mr, Cope has well observed, in the Preface to his translation of the Gorgias, that one of the most striking peculiarities of Plato’s philosophical writings is the almost entire absence of any scientific terminology. He adds, that ‘with the exception of one or two peculiar terms, such as εἶδος or ἰδέα and διαλεκτική, and the special appro- priation of διάνοια and θυμοειδές in the Republic, and possibly one or two others, Plato’s philosophy is absolutely devoid of any technical phraseology.” This remark applies with perfect truth to the Gorgias, Pro- tagoras, Pheedo, and most other dialogues. The technicalities which occur in the Pheedrus (except διαλεκτικός, συναγωγή; διαίρεσις) are quoted with contempt. But the Theeetetus already bears the marks of an opposite tendency, which becomes more decided in the Philebus, Sophist, and Politicus. Each theory advanced in the Thezetetus is characterized by an incipient terminology, which, like the theories themselves, is not entirely set aside. Thus to express the doctrine of Sense we have κίνησις, ποιοῦν, πάσχον, αἴσθησις, αἰσθητόν, φορά, ποῖ᾽ ἄττα, αἰσθανόμενα, αἰσθητής, κριτήριον, τὸ αἰσθανόμενον, ποι- drys, each having a definite meaning required by the theory ; and two of them, αἰσθητὴς and ποιότης, being evidently new- fangled words. Other terms of the same kind which are pro- duced in the later phases of the discussion are ἐκμαγεῖον, μνη- μεῖον, ἐπιστήμην ἔχειν, κεκτῆσθαι, ἐπιστητά, στοιχεῖον, συλλαβή, διαφορότης. ‘There are words of a more general character, -- GENERAL INTRODUCTION. ΧΧΥ such as ἀναλαβεῖν, ‘to resume,’ διορίζεσθαι, ‘to distinguish,’ which receive a preciseness of meaning from familiar use which they could not have had in ordinary speaking or writing. It is true that even Plato’s technicalities are fresh from the mint ; they retain the gloss of novelty, and the hues of life. But no student of these dialogues can doubt that there was floating before him the conception of a scientific language, based on dialectic, which should express more perfectly than they were known to the first name-giver the true sections and combina- tions of things. The Heracliteans were indeed ridiculed in the Thezetetus (183 b), because their theory confounded the ordi- nary use of speech: but even this ridicule shews that the notion of a philosophic vocabulary was already there. (Cf. ib. 166 b.) And in defence of one of the strangest of his coinages (δοξομιμητικὴ), towards the conclusion of the Sophist, the Stranger gravely says that for want of the power of dividing “kinds” into their “forms” the vocabulary of the ancients was most defective. (Compare Cratylus, 436-439.) Yet he is careful to vary his new-made words, so as to avoid the hearer’s being enslaved to them, and commends the youth with whom he converses for not setting too high a value on the choice of a name. (Καλῶς ye, ὦ Σώκρατες, κἂν διαφυλάξῃς TO μὴ σπουδάζειν ἐπὶ τοῖς ὀνόμασι, πλουσιώτερος εἰς TO γῆρας ἀναφανήσει φρονήσεως. Polit. 261 e.) Thus it is evident that the mvention of new terms was intended to enrich language, and not to limit thought. Of the words in these dialogues which are either new or receive a distinctly new significance, there are many which Plato does not use again; but there are others which are found to recur, especially in the Laws. The following are not used again by Plato :— τ Soph.—* ἀγόρασις, ἀδιανόητος, * ἁμιλλητικός, * ἀνδραποδιστι- κός, + ἀνθρωπικός, * ἀνθρωποθηρία, Τ ἀπατητικός (Xen.), * ἀσπα- λιευτικός, ὃ αὐτοπωλικός, αὐτουργικός (M.Anton.), * βαλανευτικός, * δημολογικός, * δοξομιμητής, * δοξομιμητικός, Ἔ δοξοπαιδευτικός, δωρητικός (Philo.), δωροφορικός (Ael.), * εἰδωλοποιϊκός, * εἰδωλο-- ποιός, * εἰδωλουργικός, * ἐναντιοποιολογικός, Ἷ ἐπιδεικτικός, * ἑρκο- θηρικός, * CwoOnpia, * ζωοθηρικός, ᾿ἡδυντικός, ᾿ἡμεροθηρικός, ἔθαυ- * ἅπαξ λεγόμενα. + Used by Aristotle. The places out of Plato where the rest occur are chiefly in later Greek. [3] ΧΧΥΪ GENERAL INTRODUCTION. μα(σϑγτοποιϊκός, * ἰδιοθηρευτικός, * ἰδιοθηρία, tioropixds, + κολαστι- κός, {κτητικός, * μαθηματοπωλικός, + μεταβλητικός, Ἷ νευστικός, * νομισματοπωλικός, οἰκειωτικός, οἰκετικός, Ἐὀρθολογία, * πεζοθηρία, Ἔ πεζοθηρικός, πιθανουργικός, | πληκτικός, * προσομιλητικός, * πυρ- εὐτική, πωλητικός, * σπογγιστικός, ft συνεχεία, τριοδοντία, φαν- ταστικός, * φθειριστικός, * χειρωτικός, * χρηματοφθορικός, * ψευ- δουργός, * ψυχεμπορικός. Polit.—* ἀγελαιοκομικός, * ἀγελαιοτροφία, * ἀγελαιοτροφικός, ἡ ἀκέραστος, ft ἀκέρατος, ft ἀκέρως, ἀκεστική, * ἀνθρωπονομικός, ἡ ἀρχιτεκτονικός, ἄστροφος (=without a twist), Τ ἄτρητος, ὃ αὐτεπι- τακτής, * αὐτεπιτακτικός, γνωστικός, * γομφωτικός, * δερματουργι- KOs, διακωλυτικός, * ἐπιθηματουργία, T ἐπιμελητικός (Xen.), ἐπι- στατικός, ἐπιτακτικός, ft ἐργαστικός, * εὐθυπλοκία, * ζωογενής, ζωοτροφία, ζωοτροφικός (Clem. Alex.), Γθρεπτικός, ἰδιογενής, * ἰδιο- γονία, ἰδιότης, δ ἰδιοτρόφος (Ar. uses ἰδιότροφος), * ἱματιουργικός, Χ ἱπποφορβία, 1 ἵπποφορβός, κελευστικός (Plut.), * κερκιστικός, κη- ρυκικός (Clem. Alex.), * κοινογενής, * κοινογονία, * κοινοτροφικός, T κριτικός, * κροκονητικός, ὃ μαγευτικός, * μονοτροφία, * νηστικός, νομευτικός, νυμφευτής (=one who unites in marriages), * favTi- κός, Τ ξηροβατικός, * ξηροτροφικός, ὃ πεζονομικός, περίβλημα; περι- κάλυμμα, { πιλητικός, + πλυντικός, * προβληματουργικός, πρωτο- γενής, * πτεροφυής, ῥυθμικός (Plut.), σιτουργός, στεκτικός, στημο- νονητικός, * στημονοφυής, * στρεπτικός, συγκριτικός, συμπλεκτικός; συνθετικός, * συνύφανσις, συστροφή (abstract), ταλασιουργικός, τιθασεία, + τρῆσις, τρητός, τρίχινος, * ὑγροτροφικός, * φλοιστικός, φράγμα, χαλκοτυπική. Soph. Polit.—* ἀμφισβητητικός, αὐτοπωλής, * γ(κ)ναφευτικός. The following are found in other dialogues :— * ἀγκιστρευτικὸς (Soph., * ἀγκιστρεία Lege.), ἀγράμματος (Po- lit. Tim. Critias), ἀγωνιστική (Soph. Legg.), ἀμυντήριος (Polit. Legg.), βιαστικός (Soph. Legg.), διαλυτικός (Polit. Tim.), δοξο- copia (Soph. Phil.), εἰκαστική (Soph. Lege.), εἰρωνικός (Soph. Legg.), * ἐνυγροθηρικός (Soph., * ἐνυγροθηρευτής Legg.), ἡ ἔνυ- dpos (Soph. Polit. Tim. Legg.), + καθαρτικός (Soph. Tim.), * vov- θετητικός (Soph. Legg.), ὀρνιθευτικός (Soph., ὀρνιθευτής Lege.), παίγνιον (Polit. Lege.), πλεκτικός (Polit. Legg.), σκέπασμα (Po- lit. Lege.), στασιαστικός (Polit., στασιωτεία Lege.), στέγασμα (Polit. Tim. Critias), + σύγκρισις (Soph. Phil. Tim. Legeg.), φαρ- μακοποσία (Soph. Legg.). Besides this class of words, whose use is thus shewn to be GENERAL INTRODUCTION. XXVil not wholly confined to the two dialogues, there may be ob- served in them two other kinds of a language approaching technical, which are nearly related to each other: terms ex- pressing the operations of dialectic, and words connected with the mathematical and physical sciences. a. Of the former sort are Soph.—dvrideors, ἀντίκειμαι, ἀπο- τελεύτησις, * ἀσύννους, διπλόη, ἐναντιολογία, μακρόλογος, προμε- λετῶ, f φάσις. Polit.—BeBaiwors, διαζητῶ, 1 διονομάζω, διχάζω, Ἷ διχοτομῶ, ἐκτροπή (τοῦ λόγου), ἐνάργεια (met. from painting), λεπτουργῶ, * μεσοτομῶ, ὀνομασία, παχέως, | προσαποφαίνω, συ- νάμφω. Soph. Polit.—ouvréurw (=assist in dividing). And, recurring elsewhere in Plato,—dzopepi¢w (Polit. Legg.), ἀπο- σχίζω (Polit. Lege.), +doxioTos (Soph. Tim.), ἄτομος (Soph., ef. ἄτμητος Pheedr.), γένος (as a metaphysical term, Parm, Soph. Polit. Phil. Tim. Legg., and once in Pheedr.), Ἔγνώ- plots (Polit. Lege.), δεσμός (a bond uniting ideas, Soph. Polit. Phil. Parm. Tim. Legg.), διάγνωσις (Soph. Lege.), δια- λογίζομαι (Soph. Phil. Tim.), διαμερίζω (Polit. Phil. Legg.), Ἔδιανόησις (Polit. Tim. Lege.), * διαπορῶ (to raise a difficulty, Soph. Tim. Legg.), διακριβολογοῦμαι (Soph. Tim.), διαχωρίζω (Polit. Phil. Tim.), f8copiopds (Polit. Tim.), ἐκκρίνω (Polit. Legg.), ἐπινέμω (Polit. Legg.), ft μέθεξις (Soph. Parm.), μερίζω (Soph. Polit. Parm. Tim.), μερίς (Soph. Legg.), παρωνύμιον (Soph. Legg.), προομολογοῦμαι (Soph. Tim.), προσκοινωνῶ (Soph. Lege.), συγκεφαλαιοῦμαι (Soph. Phil.), ¢ σύνολος (Soph. Polit. Lege.), * συνομολογία (Soph. Lege.), σχίζω (Soph. Polit. Phil. Tim.), τομή (metaphorical, Soph. Polit. Tim. Legg.). β. Words expressing physical and mathematical conceptions : Soph.—parrw, διακινῷ (3 226 Ὁ), πόρκος, FmAacrds. Polit.— * ἀφαιρετός, γνάψις, εὐήτριος, ἕψησις, κολλητός, * KpoKwdns, ὕμε- ταλλεύω, νέω, νήθω, νῆμα, * ξαντής, πλέξις, σπάρτον, * συγκερ- κίζω. Recurring—dperpos (Soph. Phil. Tim. Legg.), ἀνακύ- κλησις (Polit. ἀνακυκλοῦμαι Tim.), ἀνατολή (Polit. Lege.), ἀνειλίττω (Phileb., ἀνείλιξις Polit.), ἀπλανής (Polit. Tim. Legg.), ἄφεσις (Polit. Legg.), βρόχος (Soph. Critias), + γένεσις (of production in general, Soph. Polit. Phil. Tim. Legg.), γυμνα- στής (Polit. Lege., παιδοτριβὴς is the usual word in Plato), Ἶ διάθεσις (Soph. Phil. Tim. Legg.), διαθραύω (Soph. Tim.), διάκρισις (Soph. Phil. Tim. Legg.), Τ διηθεῖν (Soph. Tim.), * δρυοτομική (Polit., *dpvoroula Legg.), ἐπισκευάζομαι (Polit. e 2 ΧΧΥΠῚ GENERAL INTRODUCTION. Legg.), ἐπισπεύδω (Polit. Legg.), εὔκυκλος (Soph., quotation from Parm., Tim.), ἰσοπαλὲς (Soph. quotation from Parm., Tim.), κατακόσμησις (Polit. Tim.), καταθραύω (Polit. Tim.), Ἔ κύκλησις (Polit. Tim.), κύρτος (Soph. Tim. Legg.), ξαίνω (Soph. Polit. Legg.), μέτρησις (Polit. Legg.), μετρητὸς (Polit. Legg.), παράλλαξις (Polit. Tim.), παράφορος (Soph. Legg., παραφορότης Tim.), πῆξις (Polit. Phil.), πλάτος (the dimension of breadth, Soph. Polit. Critias, Legg.), πλέγμα (Soph. Polit. Tim. Legg.), προβολὴ (Polit. Tim. Legg.), * ῥαφή (Polit. Tim.), σύγκρασις (Polit. Phil.), σύγκρισις (Soph. Phil. Tim, Lege.), σύμμιξις (Soph. Polit. Phil. Tim. Legg.), συμπιλῷ (Polit. Tim.), * συμποδηγοῦμαι (Polit., ποδηγεῖν Legg.), συμφυής (Soph. Tim. Legg.), συνυφαίνω (Polit. Tim.), σῶμα, “body in gene- νὰ], Ξε τὸ σωματοειδές (Soph. Phil. Tim. Legg. 896), τηκτός (Soph. Critias), τροπή, as an astronomical term (Polit. Tim. Legg.), ὕλην (Polit. Phil. Tim. Critias, Legg.), ὑπεροχὴ (Polit. Legg.), ὑφή (Polit. Legg.). γι As the terms just enumerated betray Plato’s love for those physical pursuits which were rejected by Socrates, so the new word ἀθεότης, which occurs only in the Politicus and Laws in all Greek literature before the death of Plato (unless we must add the seventh Platonic Epistle), affords an indi- cation of his tendency to religious thought. And it is a fact worth noticing in this connexion that the word ἅγιος is con- fined to the Sophist, Critias, and Laws, amongst the Platonic writings, and οἱ κρείττονες as a euphemism for of θεοί to Soph. 2.16 Ὁ, Epist. 7, 326 e. Perhaps the notion of technical language (voces artis) may be thought to be unduly stretched in being extended to some of the words under the last two headings. But in whatever way they are described they are equally suitable to be adduced in the present section, whose object is to define and illus- trate peculiarities of diction. There remain to be noticed words borrowed from the poets, and especially from the trage- dians: respecting which it may be observed that the affecta- tion of unusual phrases, which appears in the Pheedrus as the result of a half playful dithyrambic and epic fervour, at which ® The introduction of this word is πρωτογενὲς εἶδος in the Politicus is interesting in connexion with Ari- one of the few anticipations in stotle’s Material Cause, of which the Plato. GENERAL INTRODUCTION. XXIX Socrates himself wonders, is here interwoven with graye and unimpassioned talk, giving a tone of sustained dignity to the style. ΤῸ this class (6) belong :— Soph. — ἀντίσταθμος, ἄξενος, ampatia, ἀρχαιοπρεπής, ἄφθεγ- κτος, δυσειδής, εἶα δή, εἰσύστερον, Τκαθιδρύω, μαλθακῶς, νεῖκος (quoted from Emped.), ὀλισθηρός, ῥυμή, ὑψόθεν. Polit.—dAefnrijpios (Xen.), ἅλις (Xen.), ἀπαγριῶ (Theophr.), ἀπολέμως ἔχειν, ἄπτην, ὅ ἀργυραμοιβός (cf. χρυσαμοιβός), Bon- λάτης, βουφορβός, γενειῶ, δίωγμα, ἐξανθῶ, εὔγνωστος, εὔκριτος, ἔφεδρος, θίασος, κάταγμα, κερασφόρος, μελαίνεσθαι, νομεύω, ὅπλισμα, παρεία, περιωπή, πολυπλανής, προσφθέγγομαι, συντρέχω. Under this head also might have been classed ἄστροφος and νυμφευτής. Soph. Polit.—dzepnpdo. ᾿Αγήρως (Pol. Phil. Tim. Legg.), ἀθῷος (Soph. Legg.), ἀντά- fos (Polit. Lege., in the former with tacit reference to the line of Homer which is quoted in Symp. 214 Ὁ), ἄπλετος (Soph. Legg.), yerovd (Polit. Legg.), δεσποτίς (Polit. Tim. Lege.), διαλαγχάνω (Polit. Critias), διαπεράω (Soph. Tim.), ἐπεύχομαι (Soph. Critia. Legg.), εὐώνυμος ( = of auspicious name (Pind.), (Polit. Legg.), ἡσυχαῖος (Polit. Legg.), κρηπίς (Polit. Legg.), κρυφαῖος (Soph. Tim.), ὃ μέχριπερ (Soph. Polit. Phileb.), ξένιος (Ζεύς) (Soph. Legg.), ὅπῃπερ (Soph. Tim. Leges.), ἵπάμπαν (Polit. Tim. Legg.), παραφροσύνη (Soph. Phileb. 2, παράφρων Legg.), (μή) πλαστῶς (Soph. Legg.), πολιός (Polit. Parm. Tim.), στέλλομαι (Soph. Phileb. Legg.), t cbvdpopos (Polit. Lege.), fovvvoyos (Polit. Tim. Critia. Legg.), Τσύντροφος (Polit. Lege.), τριπλοῦς (Polit. Tim. Legg.), xep- gatos (Soph. Tim. Legg.). Next to which, for convenience sake, may be classed some unusual compounds and derivatives which have a similar rhetorical effect (ε) :— Soph.—* ἀπομαρτύρομαι, ἀπόρρησις, * δυσθήρευτος, témdddakis, εὐηνίως (adv.), καθό, κυλίνδησις, κώλυσις, προτάττομαι, *oKoTEL- νότης. Polit.—taméppnua, *yepavoBeria, διαβουλεύομαι, δυσκατα- μάθητος, ἐγκαιρία, εἰστελῶ, ἔντευξις, ἐξαφανίζω, * ἑρμηνευτής, ἐφέδρα, ἰδιότης, ὃ κοινώνησις, ὃ᾽᾿ μετασκευωροῦμαι, “ἥ᾿ ὁλόσχιστος, δμηρεία, πάμφυλος, πρόκρισις, Τῥητορεία, ἵσυγκαταμίγνυμι (Hur. Η. Fur.), *ovppipoduar, Ἰσυμπαρακολουθῶ, συναγυρμός, συναπο- τελῶ, ὃ συνδιακυβερνῶ, σωφρονικός, Γχηνοβωτία, *xiAlavdpos. XXX GENERAL INTRODUCTION. ᾿Αγράμματος (Polit. Tim. Critias), ἀκρατής (Soph. Legg.), ἀνάστατος (Soph. Legg.), ἀπιδεῖν (Soph. Phileb. Legg.), ἀφερ- μηνεύω (Soph. Legg.), ἀφύλακτος (Polit. Lege.), ἔγκαιρος (Polit. Legg.), ἔκδοσις (Polit. Legg.), ἐμπορεύτικος (Polit., ἐμπορεύομαι Lege.), ἐνάριθμος (Soph. Phileb.), ἐπίκλην (Soph. Phileb. Tim.), εὐλαβής (Polit. Lege.), εὐπρεπής (Soph. Polit. Legg.), Τἠρεμαῖος (Polit. Legg.), {θυραυλεῖν (Polit. Legg.), ἰταμότης (Polit., ἰταμῶς Legg.), καταπαύω (Polit. Phileb.), μεθημερινός (Soph. Tim.), μηνυτής (Polit. Lege.), ἐμίσθωσις (Soph. Legg.), povap- xla (Polit. Lege.), Τνομοθέτημα (Polit. Legg.), περιλείπῳ (Polit. Tim. Critia. Legg.), προσμίγνυμι (Polit. Legg.), προστυχής (γίγνεσθαί τινι), (Polit. Legg.), σκοτοδινία (Soph. Legg.), συγ- γυμναστής (Soph. Lege.), συγκατασκευάζω (Polit. Legg.), συλ- λαγχάνω (Polit. Tim.), συναπεργάζεσθαι (Polit. Tim.), *ovv- διαπονῷ (Soph. Legg.), συνεφέπομαι (Soph. Tim. Critia. Legg.), τολμηρός (Soph. Legg.), τὰ φωνηθέντα (Soph. Tim.), χαλεπότης (Soph. Critia. Legg.). The facts thus enumerated indicate as characteristic of the language of these dialogues, (1) An extreme minuteness of distinction, giving rise to new compounds and derivatives, and to the employment of old words with new shades of meaning. (2) An affectation of variety, leading to different modes of ex- pressing the same thing. (3) Combined with these a learned fulness of diction, commanding the resources of the written as well as of the spoken language, and moulding old words to the expression of new ideas: e. g. νυμφευτής, “one who brings together in marriage ;” ἀγράμματος, “unwritten ;” dotpodos, “ without twisting.” (4) The frequent and familiar use of words denoting physical and mathematical as well as ethical conceptions. To which may be added (5) the tendency to fix in language some of the leading generalizations of philo- sophy. This last point affords a partial approach to the terminology of Aristotle, who has adopted several of the terms here used. The re-adoption of words from the poets and early writers, and the invention of new compounds, are charac- teristic also of Isocrates and Xenophon; and many of the words thus introduced became part of the vocabulary of the later prose writers. But when the five points are taken to- gether, the language of these dialogues is seen to be that of Plato, with the peculiarities somewhat exaggerated; the most GENERAL INTRODUCTION. XXXI marked features being the invention of technical expressions and the preference for words belonging to the tragic period of Greek poetry. That these dialogues shew an increased tendency to the use of a peculiar diction, is proved sufficiently by the occur- rence in 108 pages (ed. St.) of 270 words not found else- where in Plato, and upwards of go words not found in other Greck writers. It is true that 60 of these go words, and about go of the 270, may be set down to the method of dichotomies, but there remain the goodly allowance of about 180 words peculiar to these amongst the Platonic dialogues, and at least 30 ἅπαξ εἰρημένα, a number which might be in- creased if it were lawful to add those words which do not occur earlier, and which later Platonists, like Plutarch and Clemens Alexandrinus, have evidently adopted from this source. But there are Platonic dialogues in which there are equally marked peculiarities of diction. These are the Phedrus, Re- public, Timzeus (including the fragment of the Critias), and Laws. The first of these abounds in poetical words, and there is probably no writing of equal length from which so rich a vocabulary could be procured. But this may partly be accounted for by the unwonted enthusiasm which Socrates confesses that he feels “swelling in his breast.” The rich garment of expression, “stiff with cloth of gold,” is confessedly worn for the occasion; and though bearing a certain relation to the language of these dialogues, has an air of wildness and novelty, and a brilliance of unpremeditated force which is absent here. The case of the Phedrus then may for the present be treated as exceptional. And the same may be said of the Republic, which abounds in peculiar words, not from singularity, but from an overflowing richness and variety. The Timeeus, Critias, and Laws, in 436 pages have 1492 words which occur nowhere else in Plato. Of these nearly a third part belong to the Timzus and Critias, which in ΟἹ pages have 427 words which occur in no other Platonic dialogue. This large proportion is no doubt in part due to the peculiarity of subject; but in the Laws alone, which as a political and ethical treatise is not materially different in this respect from the greater number of Plato’s writings, there are (in 345 pages) nearly a thousand words which he has not used elsewhere. XXXU GENERAL INTRODUCTION. It remains to ask whether in those dialogues which have a peculiar vocabulary the peculiarities are of the same kind. This question may be partly answered by glancing at the lists of words given above, and counting the number of those in each category which occur in the Sophist or Politicus, and in the Timzeus, Critias, or Laws, but appear in no other dialogue. The coincidences noticed under the first head will appear especially striking. It will also be seen that the coincidences with the Philebus, although not numerous are characteristic, especially under 8. See especially γένος, γένεσις, πῆξις, σῶμα, This line of proof might be indefinitely extended by adducing words peculiar to the latter dialogues but similar in kind to those peculiar to the former4, and words which though not peculiar to them are found to occur with in- creased frequency in both". It may be left to the student to examine these analogies for himself; but to give cogency to these “concomitant variations” it is necessary to present the negative side of the inquiry. It has been shewn that the Sophist and Politicus on the one hand, and the Timeeus, Critias, and Laws on the other, have certain peculiarities of diction ; and also that these peculiarities are to some extent the same or similar. It must be further inquired whether any other dia- logues equally with the Sophist and Politicus share the pecu- harities of the Timzeus, Critias, and Laws. If account be taken of what I have ventured to call the technical words, the answer is clear. There is no dialogue which equally with these five combines the various elements of diction above- mentioned. In poetical and rhetorical words the Pheedrus ean hardly be exceeded; but the number of words which occur only in the Phedrus, Timeus, Critias, and Laws, is less in proportion than the number of those occurring only in the Sophist, Politicus, Timzeus, Critias, and Laws; and considerably less than these confined to the Politicus, Timeeus, Critias, and Laws, although slightly exceeding those found only in the ὑλή. a Such as ἄβιος, Legg. (δ.); ἀβίαστος, Tim. (6.) ; ἀβούλητος, Legg. (a.); ἀγε- ves, Tim. (α.) ; ἀγέννητος“, Tim.(a.); ay- νεύω, ἁγνεία, Lege. (y.); ἀγχιστεία, Legg.(5.); ἀγώνισμα, Legg. (δ.) ; ἀδιε- ρεύνητος Tim. (ε.); ἀειφυγία, Legg. (ε.); ἄθλημα, Lege. (8.); &6Aa, Tim. Legg. (5.); ἀθύρω, Legg. (8.); ἄθυτος, Legg. (6.) τ Such as φράζω, mepiexw, περιλαμ- βάνω, μετρητικός, ἀπεργάζομαι, μέτο- χος, προαιρεῖσθαι, ἐμφανίζω, φῦλον, φαν- τάζεσθαι, ἀπόφασις, ῥηθέν, πρόσρημα, the indefinite πότερος. GENERAL INTRODUCTION. XXXII Sophist, Timeus, Critias, and Laws. But, if the Pheedrus is treated as exceptional, there is no other dialogue which equally with these approximates to the language of the later dialogues, as measured by the number of words (in proportion to the number of pages) which the dialogue in question shares with the Timzus, Critias, or Laws, and with no other. The Sophist, which is neither physical nor ethical, but dialectical, and for this reason cannot be expected to abound in variety of words, is nearer to the Timeeus, Critias, Laws, when tried by this test, than the Republic, which abounds in peculiar words, which is linked by the author to the Timzeus, and whose gene- ral subject is closely similar to that of the Laws; while the proportion of the Politicus is five times that of the Gorgias, and nearly ten times that of the Meno. The following table exhibits approximately the numerical ratios of the several dia- Jogues according to the number of words at once common and peculiar to each with the Timeus, Critias, and Laws :— Polit. το. Pheedo 35. thyphr. Gorg. 3. ea τὰ Symp. 24. Huthyd. 1. Rohtsjer Phileb. 3. Critias +. Pheedr. 14. Ton 2. Parm. Hipp. Min. τ. Soph. 135. Theset, 2. Men. 52. Rep. δ. Prot. Lach. Lys.4. Ale. I. 4. Menex. 4. Crat. Apol. Eu- Charmid. +4. The position of the Parmenides in this list, like that of the Phe- drus, is partly accounted for by exceptional circumstances. § 8. In grammar, structure of sentences, and rhythm, these dialogues present the same affinities which were found in ex- amining their vocabulary and general style. Bearing a certain resemblance to Plato’s other writings generally, they approach most nearly to the Philebus, Timseus, Critias, and Laws. (1) With respect to the grammar this remark will be seen to be justified by many parallel passages which have been col- lected in the notes to this edition. Of the following idioms several may be paralleled from other dialogues: some from other authors: but when taken together, they will be seen to be especially characteristic of the group thus indicated. 5. Considered as one continuous dialogue. For confirmation of these assertions, see Ast’s Lexicon Platonicuin. i XXX1V GENERAL INTRODUCTION. i. The Ionic dative plural of the 2nd declension in ot occurs twice in the Politicus: 262 a. διπλασίοισι (MSS. with one ex- ception, οἱσὴ); 304 6. ἑπομένοισιν. Several instances of this form might, however, be collected from the Timzus and Laws. It does not occur elsewhere in Plato. ii. Perfects with present (perhaps frequentative) meaning : ἐσπούδακα, Soph. 216, 251 6, 259 6; κέχρημαι, ib. 2236; τε- θαύμακα, ib. 251 6. Compare τετεύτακα, Rep. 7, 521 6, Tim. 90 Ὁ. The so-called “aorist of custom” and the perf. pass. with middle signification are too common to require special mention here. iii. The participle is used with the auxiliary verb instead of one of the tenses of some other mood : Soph. 217 ὁ. ἀπαρνηθεὶς γένῃ; ib. 229 d. ἐστὶν ἔχον; ib. 235. a. ἔχων τυγχάνει; ib. 244 6. λόγον οὐκ ἂν ἔχον (ἐστίν); ib. 245 6. γενέσθαι----ὃν. ib. d. εἰληφὸς φανεῖται; ib. 260 d. ἔξαρνον γεγονέναι. Polit. 257 a. ἀκηκοότες εἶναι; ib. 268 c. λέγοντες--τυγχάνοιμεν ; ib. 306 b. ἔστον exovre.* iv. The cognate accusative of the active becomes the subject of the passive yoice. This extension of a common idiom occurs sometimes in tragedy, 6. g. Sophocles, Trach. 169. τοιαῦτ᾽ ἔφραζε πρὸς θεῶν εἱμαρμένα τῶν Ηρακλείων ἐκτελευτᾶσθαι πόνων (Ξε τὸν Ἡρακλῆ τελευτᾶν τοὺς πότους τοιαῦτα, cogn. acc.). In the So- phist, where much has to be said of various processes, this form of expression is often found convenient, e.g. 221 a. τὸ THs— πληγῆς --- ἀνασπώμενον, “the stroke effected by an upward jerk ;” cf. Polit. 271 a. τὸ ἐξ ἀλλήλων---γεννώμενον. By a fur- ther extension of the same usage, the verbal noun in pa often means not the result of an act, but the act or process itself: so δήλωμα, Soph. 262 a; γέννημα, ib. 266 e; μίμημα Polit. 274 a; and, as I venture to think, σπέρμα, ib. 2726. The case of θρέμμα, ib. 289 Ὁ, is even more peculiar; here a transition is made from the act to the means by which the act is performed, just as often happens with the English verbal noun in ing (e. g. furnishings, trappings, dressing, &c.). y. One instance at least occurs of the infinitive used for the imperative: Soph. 262 6. σύ μοι φράζειν. vi. And one of the imperative put interrogatively : Ὁ Periphrases are altogether more frequent: 6. g. τέλος ἔχειν, GENERAL INTRODUCTION, XXXV Polit. 295 0. μὴ ἐξέστω 647 —; Cf. Aeschin. il. 21, ὅτι ἠρξά- μὴν μὴ ἀποδημήσω 5 vii. Partitive genitives are frequent: 6. g. Soph. 265 a. τῆς κτητικῆς. Polit. 281 6. τῶν αἰτιῶν. Cf. Phileb. 56 ἃ. καὶ ξύμπασα αὐτῆς αὐλητική. vii. Attraction, of an adverb, Polit. 263. ὅθεν -- ἐντεῦθεν, οὗ. of a verb, Soph. 263. ὡς ἔοικε--- γίγνεσθαι: γίγνεται, ws ἔοικεν. Cf. Phileb. 6% ¢. ix. Apposition, a. Sing. and plur. ἐν πάντα, frequent here and in Phileb. Polit. 306 ἀ 6. τάχος καὶ σφοδρότητα καὶ ὀξύτητα----οαὐτό. Ὁ. Femi. and neut. Soph. τὸ μὲν πονηρία καλούμενον. 9. Mase. and fem. or neut. (concrete and abstract), Polit. 259 ἃ. πολιτικὴν καὶ πολιτικὸν καὶ βασιλικὴν καὶ βασιλικὸν---ὃν πάντα ταῦτα. d. Of clauses, (i.) To each other, Polit. 257d. ταῦτα----ποιητέον" οὐκ ἀπο- στατέον. (1.) To a demonstrative: frequently τὸ δὲ or τὸ δέ γε. Soph. 244 a. τὸ δὲ τούτον γίγνηται πᾶν τοὐνάντιον. Polit. 263 d. τὸ δέ γε---τάχ᾽ ἂν---διονομάζοι. Ib. 308 6. ταὐτὸν δή μοι τοῦθ᾽ ἣ βασιλική φαίνεται, κιτιλ. (11.) To a relative, Soph. 227 ὁ. ὅπερ ἤρου, κιτιλ. Ib. 236 d. ὃ δὲ καὶ τότ᾽ ἠμφεγνόουν, κ-.τ.λ. x. The use of the neut. article with the genitive to express the abstract notion of a thing, is especially frequent in the Politicus and Laws. Polit. 263 ὁ. τὸ τῆς ἀποπλανήσεως. Ib. 274 d. τὸ τοῦ μυθοῦ. xi. Ellipse (more frequent in the Sophist), a. Soph. 22.5 a. τῷ δὲ λόγους πρὸς λόγους (γιγνομένῳ). Ib. 233 b. μήτ᾽ ἐφαίνοντο (ὀρθῶς ἀντιλέγει»). Ib. 235 Ὁ. δέδεικται τοίνυν (δεῖ). Ib. 238 c. μὴ ὃν δέ (ἐπειδὰν λέγωμεν). Ib. 248 6. τὸ δέ (ἂν φαῖεν). Polit. 276 c. τί μήν (ἔδει) ;----ἐλέγομεν (δεῖν). Ib. 301 ὃ. προσποιῆται δὲ ὡς ὁ ἐπιστήμων (ἄρχειν). f 2 ΧΧΧΥῚ GENERAL INTRODUCTION. b. Of τὸ μὲν with τὸ δὲ following, Soph. 221 6. νευστικοῦ μέρους, τὸ δὲ πεζοῦ. Ib. 267 b. νενεμήσθω, τὸ δὲ μεθείσθω. Polit. 291 6. τυραννίδι, τὸ δὲ βασιλικῇ. Cf. Phileb. 36 6. ψευδεῖς, αἱ δ᾽ ἀληθεῖς---ἧδοναί. Hence in Phileb. 66 ο, ἐπιστήμας, ταῖς δ᾽ αἰσθήσεσιν, should probably be read ἐπιστήμαις with corr. =. Legg. passim. e. Of the apodosis after μέν, Soph. 240 b. ἐοικὸς μέν. Polit. 311 Ὁ. τὸ δ᾽ ἐν ταῖς πράξεσιν τὸ μὲν διαφερόντως ἴσχει. Οὗ Rep.455¢; ὅγιιρ. 2ο7 4; Thesxt. το 16; ἌΡΟΙ]. τὸ ἢ. Ci, Hom. 115). ΤΡ» xi. Pleonasm, a. Simple, of δεῖν, Soph. 221 a. ὅπερ προὐθέμεθα δεῖν ἐξευ- pelv. Repetition of αὐτός, Polit. 268 a (cf. the frag- ment of Ausch. in Rep. 2, 383 ὁ) εἶναι, Ib. 300 0. εἰς δύναμιν εἶναι. Comparative, Ib. 288 b ὁ. μᾶλλον --- ὀρθότερον. b. Redundant or explicit use of the participle, Soph. 225 a. ὄνομα λέγειν---τιθεμένους. Lb. 250 6. ᾧ χρῶνται, τὰ μὲν χαλεπαίνοντες, τὰ δὲ μαλθακωτέρως παραμυθούμενοι. Ib. 234 6. εἴδωλα λεγόμενα. Tb. 240 ἃ. ἑνὶ προσειπεῖν ὀνό- ματι φθεγξάμενος. Ib. 243 Ὁ. φθέγξηται λέγων. Ib. 252 Ὁ. διαιροῦσιν-----διαιρούμενοι. Polit. 274. 6. ἡμάρτο- μεν ἀποφηνάμενοι. Ib. 280 6. τέλεον λελεγμένον. Cf. Legg. 9, 879 d. εἴτε πάλαι ἐνοικοῦντος, εἴτε νεήλυδος ἀφιγμένον. (Ν. Β. There is a strong tendency to the use of participial expressions generally.) c. The same love of explicitness is shewn in the repeti- tion, with or without modification, of a verbal notion which has been already expressed or implied; often causing a return from a more dependent to a less dependent construction, as from participle to infini- tive, infinitive to subjunctive, infinitive or subjunctive to indicative. Soph. 216 e. τότε δὲ σοφισταΐ, τότε δὲ δόξαν παράσχοιντ᾽ ἄν. Ib. 225 6. ἀμφισβητεῖται μέν, ἀτέχνως δὲ---περὶ αὐτὸ πράττεται. Ib. 243 a. χαλεπόν, καὶ πλημμελὲς ἐπιτιμᾷν. Tb. 246 d. ποιεῖν---ποιῶμεν. Ib. 248 6. λέγουσιν ὅτι---μέν---δὲ----᾿ασίν. Polit. 263 d. GENERAL INTRODUCTION. XXXVI προσείποι. Ib. 293 6. μεμιμῆσθαι. Ib. 299 d. θεασαί- μεθα. Ib. 302 c, ἔφαμεν. Cf. Symp.177¢; Apol.1g e. xill. Πρὸς τὸ σημαινόμενον. The sentence is sometimes continued as if a word in composition were fully expressed. Soph. 219 a. ἄτεχνον, ἄλλην δὲ δύναμιν ἔχον. Ib. 249 ἃ. τῷ---φιλοσόφῳ καὶ ταῦτα μάλιστα τιμῶντι. Cf. Lege. 7, 810 ἃ. φιλομαθοῦντι μηδὲ μισοῦντι, xiv. “ Pendent” constructions. Of the nom., Soph. 247 ὁ. πᾶν ὃ μὴ dvvatol—eicly, ὡς dpa τοῦτο Polit. 303 ¢. τοῦτο μὲν ἀτεχνῶς ὥσπερ δρᾶμα καττὰ. Gen. with περὶ, Soph. 258 6. περὶ ἐναντίου τινός---χαίρειν λέγομεν. Dat., Polit. 295 6. τῷ δὲ τὰ δίκαια----κ.τ.λ. Δοο., Polit. 295 d. πᾶν τὸ τοιοῦτον ξυμβαῖνον---γέλως ἂν 6 μέγιστος γίγνοιτο τῶν τοιούτων νομοθετημάτων. Ib. 282 6. τὸ μὲν ἀτράκτῳ-- -ὅσα δέ ye ad—. Ib. 283 ἃ. τό γε τῆς ὑφαντικῆς μέρος---. 10.506 ο.᾽ Οξύτητα καὶ τάχος ----. With παρά, Ib. 300 b. παρὰ γὰρ οἶμαι τοὺς νόμου- ----. xv. The construction as well as the diction is often varied in successive clauses. Soph. 248 Ὁ. γενέσει---πρὸς οὐσίαν. Ib. 244 d. ἢ μηδενὸς--- εἰ δέ twos. Ib. 245 6. τε---καὶ μὴν---γε. xvi. The subject of the inversion of words belongs rather to the structure of sentences than to grammar. But it may be well in this place to call attention to the frequency of hyper- baton, especially in the use of particles. E.g. Soph. 263 c. ἔφαμεν---που. Ib. d. μέντοι. Ib. 264 a. ὅταν---αὖ. Several of these modes of expression, such as the redundant participle, the use of the auxiliary verb, and the extension of the cognate accusative, not to mention the Ionic dative plural, and the peculiar effects of attraction, are in the manner of tragedy ; and we may therefore be the less surprised at such directly tragic forms of expression as Soph. 238 a. μήπω μέγ᾽ εἴπῃς. Ib. 235 a. viv ἡμέτερον ἔργον ἤδη τὸν θῆρα μηκέτ᾽ ἀνεῖναι. Ib. 229 6. ἀρχαιοπρεπές τι πάτριον. [Ὁ. 235d. οὐ μή ποτε ἐκφυγὸν ἐπεύξηται, or such “ pregnant” constructions as in Polit. 271 a. ἄδηλον----διεφθείρετο. Cf. Lege. 11, 926 Ὁ. μαινόμενα κηδεύματα. XXXVI GENERAL INTRODUCTION. (2) It may be remarked generally with regard to the structure of the sentences in these dialogues, that they are more elaborate and also more irregular than in the greater number of Plato’s writings. They have less of the sponta- neous movement of conversation, and in the Politicus especially are often more redundant and complicated. While the reader’s ear is filled with a peculiar stately rhythm, his attention is quickened by artificial or poetical collocations of words. These traits are clearly marked in the dialogues before us; they may be traced also in the Philebus and some parts of the — Pheedrus, and they are eminently characteristic of the Laws. Note for example the elaborateness and balanced formality of the following replies : Soph. 217 a. τί δὲ μάλιστα καὶ τὸ ποῖον περὶ αὐτῶν διαπο- ρηθεὶς ἐρέσθαι διενοήθης ; Ib. 224 c. καὶ τί τις ἂν ἄλλο εἰπὼν οὐκ ἂν πλημμελοίη πλὴν τὸ νῦν ζητούμενον αὐτὸ εἶναι τὸ σοφιστικὸν γένος ; Ib. 226 b. τὸ ποῖον περὶ αὐτῶν βουληθεὶς δηλῶσαι, παραδείγ- | ματα προθεὶς ταῦτα κατὰ πάντων ἤρου ; Ib. 234 Ὁ. οὐδαμῶς" πάμπολυ γὰρ εἴρηκας εἶδος εἰς ἕν πάντα συλλαβὼν καὶ σχεδὸν ποικιλώτατον. Polit. 262 6. ποῖον οὖν δὴ φράζεις διαιρουμένους ἡμᾶς οὐκ ὀρθῶς ἄρτι δρᾷν; Ib. 270 Ὁ. φαίνεται γ᾽ οὖν δὴ καὶ μάλα εἰκότως εἰρῆσθαι πάντα | ὅσα διελήλυθας. Ib. 277 ἃ. καὶ κινδυνεύει γ᾽, ὦ ξένε, τελέως ἂν ἡμῖν οὕτως ἔχειν ἣ περὶ τὸν πολιτικὸν ἀπόδειξις. Ib. 284 6. καὶ μέγα γ᾽ ἑκάτερον τμῆμα εἶπες, καὶ πολὺ δια- φέρον ἀλλήλοιν. Compare with these Phil. 29 d. τίς γὰρ ἀποκρινόμενος ἄλλως ὑγιαίνων ἄν ποτε φανείη ; Ib. 32 ἃ. Ὀρθότατα λέγεις ὅτι ταύτῃ πῇ δεῖ διαπορευθῆναι τὸ νῦν μεταδιωκόμενον. Ib. 47 ὁ. Πάντα, ὦ Σώ- κρατες; τὰ συμβαίνοντα πρὸς τῶν πολλῶν ἀνθρώπων εἰς δόξαν διε- πέρανας. Tim. 29 ἀ. ἔΑριστα, ὦ Τίμαιε, παντάπασί τε ὡς κελεύεις ἀποδεκτέον" τὸ μὲν οὖν προοίμιόν σον θαυμασίως ἀπεδεξάμεθά σου, τὸν δὲ δὴ λόγον ἡμῖν ἐφεξῆς πέραινε. Lege. 1, p. 627 ὁ. Καὶ μάλα ἄτοπον, ὦ ξένε, τὸ νῦν λεγόμενον, ὅμως δ᾽ ὁμολογεῖν οὕτως ἀναγ- καιότατον. Ib. 628 ο. Οὕτω πᾶς ἂν ἐθέλοι πρότερον ἢ κείνως περὶ τὴν αὑτοῦ γίγνεσθαι πόλιν. Ib. 639 6. παντάπασί τινὰ πονηρὸν λέγεις, καὶ οὐδαμῶς ἀνδρῶν ἄρχοντα, ἀλλά τινων σφόδρα γυναικῶν. GENERAL INTRODUCTION. KXXIX In these and numberless other places there is easily recog- nised the presence of a common type. ‘The same careful precision is observable in the explicitness with which a ques- tion is often stated. See Soph. 218 c; 230 b, c,d; 248 ἃ, e; 265¢; Polit. 262 c,d,e; 293 a,b; and compare Phil. 12 ο, ἃ ; 15 b,c; 18 b, 0, d, and Legg. 637. Instances of redundaney and complication, of a somewhat harsher kind than those of the Phzdrus, Gorgias, or Republic, arising more from lengthiness than fulness, will soon enough become familiar to the student of these dialogues. Meanwhile the following passages may be taken as samples: Soph. 230 e,d; Polit. 288 ἃ, 293 Ὁ, 298 ὁ, d, 309 Ὁ. Compare Phil. 17 d,e; Legg. 716 b, 740 d, 779 ἃ. Such irregularities are especially frequent in the Politicus and Laws. In point of rhythm and the collocation of words, these dialogues hold, with the Philebus, an intermediate place be- tween the Pheedrus (to which may here be added the Thee- tetus and Republic) and the Timezeus, Critias, and Laws. Every reader of Plato is acquainted with the poetic cadences, which in his more highly wrought passages he occasionally introduces, not without a smile at his own magnificence. In the myths especially (to use his own words), he speaks with a tragic air, as if telling a tale impressively to children. (Rep. 8, 545 86. εὐχώμεθα ταῖς Μούσαις εἰπεῖν ἡμῖν “"On(m)ws δὴ πρῶ- TOV στάσις ἔμπεσε," καὶ φῶμεν αὐτὰς τραγικῶς, os πρὸς παῖδας ἡμᾶς παιζούσας καὶ ἐρεσχηλούσας, ws δὴ σπουδῇ λεγούσας ὑψηλο- λογουμένας λέγειν") Examples will readily occur from the Protagoras, Symposium, Theetetus (172-177), and the con- clusion of the Republic (where note especially the speech of Lachesis). It appears from the Pheedrus that these harmonies were not unconscious. The Socrates of that dialogue is sur- prised to find himself discoursing in this unwonted strain. When the afflatus of the higher rhetoric first descends on him, he says, “I am speaking almost in dithyrambs,” and afterwards, when he breaks out into a verse in the epic metre, he remarks on this as. shewing a further access of enthusiasm. The ironical shyness with which he at first ex- ercises his suddenly acquired gift wears off as he proceeds, and in the second long speech, or “palinode,” he evidently “forgets that they are at play.” Both speeches, besides xl GENERAL INTRODUCTION. such mock-poetical turns as ξύμμοι λαβέσθε τοῦ μυθοῦ,---πά- pire δὴ, θρέμματα γενναῖα, καλλίπαιδά τε Φαῖδρον πείθετε, are full of a sententious solemnity and rich music, to which the choice and arrangement of the words contribute largely. The following single phrases will partly illustrate this: 246 d. ὁ μὲν δὴ μέγας ἡγεμὼν ἐν οὐρανῷ Ζεύς, ἐλαύνων πτηνὸν ἅρμα, πρῶτος πορεύεται. 247 ἃ. τῶν δ᾽ ἄλλων ὅσοι ἐν τῷ τῶν δώδεκα ἀριθμῷ τεταγμένοι θεοὶ ἄρχοντες. Ib. b. ἀκρὰν ὑπὸ τὴν ὑπου- ράνιον ἁψῖδα πορεύονται πρὸς ἄναντες ἤδη. Ib. βρίθει γὰρ ὁ τῆς κάκης ἵππος μετέχων. Ib. 248 b. πολλαὶ μὲν χωλεύονται, πολλοὶ δὲ πολλὰ πτερὰ θραύονται, πᾶσαι δὲ πολὺν ἔχουσαι πόνον ἀτελεῖς | pa up ’ τῆς τοῦ ὄντος θέας anépxovtai—where the alliteration also adds to the effect. The music of language, thus half-humorously struck out, seems to have had an increasing fascination for Plato, and sounds on unreservedly in his latest works. In the Timzeus and Laws these tragic and “ dithyrambic” cadences are no longer occasional, but perpetual, and the speaker does not now “veil his face” with Socratic irony while uttering them. There appears an increasing preference for balanced phrases and “good mouth-filling” words. The rhythm, however, while more laboured, is less varied and less instinct with movement and life. The following examples are taken almost at random. Tim. 41 6. δέοι δὲ σπαρείσας αὐτὰς εἰς τὰ προσήκοντα ἑκάσταις ἕκαστα ὄργανα χρόνου φῦναι ζώων τὸ θεοσεβέστατον. Ib. 47 b. τἄλλα δέ, ὅσα ἐλάττω, τί ἂν ὑμνοῖμεν ; ὧν ὃ μὴ φιλόσοφος τυφλω- θεὶς Odupopevos ἂν θρῆνοϊ μᾶτην. Legg. 1, 644 Ὁ. δεῖ δὴ τὴν παιδείαν μηδαμοῦ ἀτιμάζειν, ὡς πρῶτον τῶν καλλίστων τοῖς ἀρίστοις ἄνδρασι παραγιγνόμενον. Ib. 2, 653 d. θεοὶ δὲ οἰκτείραντες τὸ τῶν ἀνθρώπων ἐπίπονον πεφυκὸς γένος. Ib. 654 6. μάταιος ὃ μετὰ ταῦθ᾽ ἡμῖν περὶ παιδείας ὀρθῆς εἴθ᾽ “Ἑλληνικῆς εἴτε βαρβαρικῆς λόγος ἄν εἴη. Ib. 661 Ὁ. τὸ δὴ τέλος ἁπάσης μακαριότητος εἶναι! τὸ ταῦτα κεκτημένον ἀθάνατον εἶναι γενόμενον 6 τι τάχιστα. Ib. 3, 677 6. μυρίαν μέν τινα φοβερὰν ἐρημίαν, γῆς δὲ ἀφθόνου πλῆ- Gos πάμπολυ, ζώων δὲ τῶν ἄλλων ἐρρόντων BovKOAL ἄττα, καὶ εἴ τί που αἰγῶν περιλειφθὲν γένος. Ib. 7. 824 a. ἡ τῶν διαπαύματα πόνων ἔχουσα. Ib. 8, 831 6. τοῦ φαγεῖν παντοδαπὰ καὶ πιεῖν ὡσαύτως καὶ ἀφροδισίων πᾶσαν πάντως παρασχεῖν πλησμονήν. Ib. 842 ο. ἀναγκαῖον νομοθετοῦντά ἐστι τρέπεσθαι. Ib. 4, 716 a, b, 9, 854 a, 878 b, 11, 919 a, b. GENERAL INTRODUCTION. xi If we turn now to the Philebus, Sophist, and Politicus, we shall find a rhythm less inflated and monotonous than that of the Laws, less free and various than that of the Phadrus, but essentially resembling both. If the cadences of the Phadrus have a dithyrambic wildness, and those of the Laws are oratorical rather than poetical, these would most aptly be com- pared to the refined moderation and calm stateliness of Attic tragedy. So far as a thing of this kind can be reduced to rule, the artifices by which the effect is secured are chiefly two: (1) The careful balancing of words so as to relieve the tediousness of a lengthened phrase, by the counterposition of noun and epithet, verb and participle, subject and object, and by the alternation of emphatic and unemphatic words; (2) The adjustment of long and short syllables so as to quicken or retard the movement of the sentence. (That this is no mere fancy maybe gathered from the re-introduction of the Ionic dat. plur. in ot.) Sometimes short syllables are accumulated as in choric metres: more often a sentence is concluded with an Iambic hemistich, or with a dochmiac, each generally ter- minating with a dissyllable, which is often divorced from the immediate context. But there is something beyond this unconscious mechanism, which can be discovered by the ear alone. \ ~ / χὰ Ὁ 201 d. ἐπεὶ γενόμενόν γ᾽ ἂν οἷον λέγομεν ἀγαπᾶσθαί τε ἂν καὶ οἰκεῖν διακυβερνῶντα εὐδαιμόνως ὀρθὴν ἀκριβῶς μόνον πολιτείαν. 309. θείαν ἐν δαιμονίῳ γίγνεσθαι γένει. The following are selected from many parallel examples in the Philebus. 18 ἃ. τοῦτον τὸν δεσμὸν αὖ λογισάμενος ὡς ὄντα ἕνα καὶ πάντα ταῦτα ἕν πως ποιοῦντα, μίαν ἐπ’ αὐτοῖς ὡς οὖσαν Ν / 3 J ΄ \ Ν lal γραμματικὴν τέχνην ἐπεφθέγξατο προσειπών. 45 ἃ. τὸ δὲ τῶν ἀφρόνων τε καὶ ὑβριστῶν μέχρι μανίας ἡ σφόδρα ἡδονὴ κατέχουσα U4 p) if , ALS > yy > @ , περιβοήτους ἀπεργάζεται. 46 b. σύμμικτον τοῦτό γ᾽ dp ὦ Σώ- κρατες, ἔοικε γίγνεσθαί τι κακόν. (Where there isa manifest approach to the structure of an Iambic line: σύμμικτον dp’ ἔοικε / aT “ Ν \ / NWSE , γίγνεσθαι κακόν.) 66 Ὁ. πρῶτον μὲν περὶ μέτρον καὶ τὸ μέτριον y uv pe a Set = καὶ πάντα ὁπόσα χρὴ τοιαῦτα νομίζειν τὴν aldiov ἡρῆσθαϊι φῦσιν. 67. καὶ τοὺς θηρίων ἔρωτας οἴονται κυρίους εἶναι μάρτυρας μᾶλλον δ Ν 3 - , / ε 4 / ἢ τοὺς ev Movon φιλοσόφῳ μεμαντευμένων ἑκάστοτε λόγων. Whatever may be thought of a matter which depends so much on individual impressions as this of rhythm, there can be no question that the transposition of words from their natural sequence, either for the sake of sound or emphasis, which was noticed occasionally in the Thesetetus, Appendix A. p- 218, becomes more frequent in these dialogues. See, for instance, the hyperbaton of νῦν in p.218b, and two other places of the Sophist; and Polit. 268 6 (πολλὰ---ἔτη), 276 © (ἐπιμέλεια---καὶ----τέχνη), 280 d (ὅσαι τε περὶ Tas κλοπὰς Kal τὰς βίᾳ πράξεις διακωλυτικὰ ἔργα παρέχονται τέχναι φραγμάτων ἢ“). In more than one passage this has been the chief source of difficulty to interpreters. Nor will it be denied that the same symptom of laborious and artificial arrangement reappears with increased frequency in the Laws. « Cf. Polit. 300 a. Tod κακοῦ τοῦ πρόσθεν μεῖζον ἔτι τοῦτο γίγνοιτο κακόν : Sug= gesting the line τοῦ πρόσθε μεῖζον τοῦτο γίγνεται κακόν. * Soph. 253 c. διὰ πάντων εἰ (for εἰ διὰ πάντων). Ib. 6. ἰδεῖν μὲν χαλεπὸν ἐναργῶς καὶ τοῦτον. Polit. 260 c. τῆς ἐπιτακτικῆς ὡς ὕντα αὐτὸν τέχνης. Ib. 270 6. τοῖς ἔντος ἡμῖν οἰκοῦσιν αὐτοῦ. GENERAL INTRODUCTION. xii § 9. The relation of our two dialogues to the Philebus on the one hand, and on the other to the Timeus and Laws, which is indicated by this general survey of their scope, method, style and diction, and may perhaps be confirmed when each is examined separately, contains the answer to the question raised by Socher, Are these dialogues Platonic or Antiplatonic ? The single point of authorship is indeed sufficiently decided by three references of Aristotle (Met. vi. 2, § 3, 1026 B, Διὸ Πλάτων τρόπον τινὰ ov κακῶς τὴν σοφιστικὴν περὶ TO μὴ ὃν ἔταξεν : ib. xi. 8, 1064 B; xii. 2, 1089 C), and in reference to the Sophist few Platonic scholars will not feel the force of Dr. Thompson’s words (Genuineness of the Sophista, p. 5): “50 far as the mere style is concerned, there is no dialogue in the whole series more thoroughly Platonic. In their structure the periods are those of Plato, and they are unlike those of any other writer. Throughout, it seems to me, the author is writing his very best. His subject is a dry one; and he strives to make it palatable by a more than ordinary neatness of phrase, and by a sustained tone of pleasantry. His style is terse or fluent, as terseness or fluency is re- quired: but the fluency never degenerates into laxity, nor the terseness into harshness. The most arid dialectical wastes are refreshed by his humour: and bloom in more places than one with images of rare brilliancy and felicity. Few besides Plato would have thought of describing the endless wrangling of two sects (?) who had no principle in common, under the image of a battle between gods and giants; and _ fewer still, had they conceived the design, would have ex- | ecuted it with a touch at once so firm and so fine. What inferior master could have kept up so well and with so little effort, the fiction of a hunt after a fierce and wily beast, by which the Eleatic stranger sustains the ardent Thestetus amid _ the toil and weariness of a prolonged logical exercitation? _ Or who could so skilfully have interwoven that exercitation _ itself with matter so grave and various as that of which the dialogue in its central portion is made up? If vivacity in the conversations, easy and natural transitions from one subject to another, pungency of satire, delicate persiflage, and idiomatic raciness of phrase are elements of dramatic power, I know no _ dialogue more dramatic than the Sophistes.” Ὁ 2 xliv GENERAL INTRODUCTION. But the objections of Socher are not thus met, or rather the difficulties which he raised are not explained. And yet the solution of them may contribute something towards a theory — of these dialogues, and may even throw some light on the | history of Plato’s mind. 1. Socher objects first that the dichotomies, unlike the divi- sions of the Gorgias and Philebus, are meaningless, arbitrary, | accidental, and tastelessly prolonged. It has been shewn that | division as a logical exercise was at one time rife in the school | of Plato; that the use of that exercise here is propedeutic and ὦ provisional ; and that the method while used is also eriticized, 1 modified, and partly rejected; that its use here is not more © singular than that of etymologies in the Cratylus: and that as the Cratylus vein recurs occasionally in these dialogues, so | traces of the method of dichotomies appear in the Laws. The | use of the method is also seen to be an approach to Aristotle, who makes use of some of the divisions which are here in- vented. 2. * The absence of humour, seen especially in the gravity with which trivial examples are worked out.” Whatever may be thought of the humour of these dialogues, they are not less humorous than the Timzeus and Laws. And whoever misses humour in them, will probably find the same want in the greater part of the Philebus. Socher’s objection is really based on the prominence which is given in these dialorues— and also in the Philebus and Parmenides, and in a ditterent way in the Laws—to the idea of method. And it may be retorted that the “ gravity” is often that of the accomplished humorist, who does not “himself laugh, to set on some quantity of barren spectators to laugh too.” 3. “Plato identifies Being with the ideas; Not-Being with the objects of sense: the object of opinion being intermediate. (Rep. v. 477-480.) The Eleatic Stranger takes no account of this absolute antithesis of Being and Not-Being. Being, with him, is the sum of all positive notions. Plato, on the other hand, takes no account of the logical antithesis or correlation of Being and Not-Being.” 4. “ Further, the Sophist contains a criticism of the Platonic doctrine of Ideas.” These cardinal objections can only be fully met in the sepa- rate Introduction to the Sophist. Meanwhile the reader GENERAL INTRODUCTION. xlv may be asked to bear in mind what has been already said of Plato’s modification of his theory of Knowledge, and the un- doubted approximation to the Aristotelian point of view which appears in the Philebus, Timseus, and Laws. And we may notice, as a discrepancy of the same kind, the final rejection in the Thestetus of a definition of Knowledge, which might well be thought essentially Platonic, namely, “ True opinion able to | give a reason of itself” (δόξα ἀληθής μετὰ λόγου). 5. To the Politicus, besides the general grounds (1 and 2), Socher objects that the political notions here advanced are not in harmony with the Republic, and still less with earlier dia- logues. The examination of this point must also be reserved : but we are in a position to remark that there is a third case | not put by Socher, viz. Is the Politicus intermediate between | the Republic and the Laws ? _ 6. Lastly, he observes that the idea of the Divine Govern- ment, implied in the mythical description of the Saturnia _regna, is wholly unlike what appears in the Pheedo, Republic, | Timeus, and Laws: with which the notion of God ever leaving the helm of the universe is wholly irreconcilable. The signifi- ance of this remark will be developed, when the Politicus is considered separately. At present it may be enough to point to the well-known passage in the tenth book of the Laws (896 e), where an independent evil soul is postulated in order _ to account for evil; with which compare Rep. 2, 379 ὁ, “ God, since he is good, cannot be the cause of all things, as most men say, but of what happens to mankind little is due to him, and there is much of which he is not the cause: for our good is much less than our evil.” Each of Socher’s objections, although inconclusive, arose | from the perception of some real peculiarity, of which those | who maintain the genuineness of these dialogues are bound to give account. It will appear in the sequel, whether any light is thrown upon this subject, when they are viewed, as by ) the indications of style and diction we have been led to view them, in especial connexion with the Theetetus, Philebus, Timeeus, Critias, and Laws. INTRODUCTION ΤῸ THE SOPHIST. OF the title given to this dialogue by the early grammarians, — Σοφιστὴς, ἢ περὶ τοῦ ὄντος, λογικός, the name Sophistes is so — far acknowledged by Plato himself, as in an allusion to it | which occurs in the succeeding dialogue, the form of reference used is ἐν τῷ σοφιστῇ: 1. 6. “in discussing or defining the Sophist.”” And nothing can be more explicit than the manner in which this subject is proposed for definition in the opening scene. Yet it may not unnaturally appear to many readers that the remaining words, although of less authority, describe more accurately the real subject of the dialogue, in which, it may be thought, either two distinct inquiries are sought to be combined by a tour de force, or the former of these is only the occasion, excuse, or starting-point for the latter. The questions which occupy the largest and certainly the most important place are concerned with the nature of nega- tion, the relativity of ideas, and the defects of early speculation on the idea of Being. It may not seem obvious why these metaphysical questions should be necessarily involved in the study of a class of per- sons whose procedure and influence was a matter of historical fact; or, again, supposing it necessary to raise and discuss such difficulties, why they might not have been equally sug- gested by some other example. We should bear in mind, first, the extremely abstract and general manner in which Plato looks at every problem; the rarity of the metaphysical atmosphere in which he lived. Rightly or wrongly, he passed. at once from the simplest to the deepest matters of thought: 2 Such an allusion to a previous dialogue is rare in Plato, and can hardly be paralleled except from the Timeus and Laws. INTRODUCTION TO THE SOPHIST. xlvii like one possessed with a great passion, “‘ examples, gross as earth,” suggested to him the same themes, always old and always new. Just as, in the Philebus, the distinction of pleasures into good and bad suggests the problem of the one and the many, the description of. the Sophist as a “ phantastic artist” raises the whole question of the existence of the appa- rent beside the real. But, secondly, the connexion of thought, though at first sight remote, is, in this case at least, far from being arbitrary or accidental. As the question is a cardinal one, so is the instance by which the question is introduced. Plato is not merely clothing an ontological discussion in the garb of flesh and blood: it is at least equally true that in the ontological problem he sums up the difficulties of life and experience in the most abstract form: difficulties and con- tradictions which he had elsewhere illustrated with dramatic power. And the name Sophistes itself expresses a provisional generalization, or vindemiatio prima. As in the Theetetus, the theory “ Each man the measure of truth to himself” is the ' most general expression for all opinion that is not founded in reason, so the Sophist, even before definition, is, as he is described in the Republic, only the conscious reflection and embodiment of ordinary thought. The fact remains, however, that the dialogue is naturally divided into two main portions, one of which is enclosed or embedded in the other. In the opening and concluding passages (I.) an attempt is made to form a definite conception of the genus Sophist by the method of dichotomies, i.e. through logical divisions to follow the ramifications of the tree of know- ledge till the particular branch which supports him is dis- covered. But there is a point (p. 236 d) at which this series of divisions is interrupted by what is formally a long digres- sion, but really the most serious part of the whole (II.), where instead of dividing and subdividing, the mind is carried up to reconsider the first principles on which this method of distinc- tions, and all criticism and controversy, rest; in other words, to examine the meaning of negation, which cannot be deter- mined without also examining the nature of positive concep- ) tions. When this question has been set at rest, the divisions are resumed (p. 264 b), and a definition is obtained, in which the interlocutors acquiesce with more satisfaction than is ΧΙΎΠΙ INTRODUCTION usually expressed at the conclusion of a Socratic dialogue. It will be convenient to treat these portions separately. In I. the problem is presented in the concrete, but still in a very general aspect. According to the habit of Socratic | induction it 15 assumed that the name Sophist, though applied | to a great variety of persons, has one meaning, which may be ascertained by a process of definition: just as the word | ‘angler,’ which is defined as a preliminary example, has one | meaning which can be clearly conceived and expressed. A | modern respondent might have questioned this assumption | at the outset, and have challenged Socrates to proye that the © word had the same meaning when applied to the poets by Pindar, to the geometers by Socrates himself, to Zeno who denied motion, to the Heracliteans who denied all else, to the philologer Prodicus, and the astronomer Hippias, to Gorgias who ignored speculative truth, and to Protagoras who held every proposition to be of equal value. The possibility of such a doubt does not occur to Plato. He has in his mind a very simple, but a very sweeping distinction, for which the names σοφιστὴς and φιλόσοφος afforded the most convenient expression: a distinction which occurred to him when he com- pared Socrates with other teachers, and which it was the work of his life to make clear to himself and others. This was the distinction between real and apparent Knowledge; the real knowledge which Socrates sought, and the apparent know- ledge which the others professed. In the Phedrus and Gorgias he had shewn that the so-called art of rhetoric had no scien- tific basis: in the Protagoras and Meno, that the virtue which was commonly praised and which the public teachers professed to give was the result of habit and common opinion and not of principle: in the Euthydemus, he had ridiculed the process of mere verbal argument as contrasted with the real treatment of logical difficulties: in many places he had satirized the practice of receiving fees for teaching. The present inquiry is more general than any of these; and is also restricted to the consideration of the Sophist in the highest and most technical sense, in which he is distinguished from the rhetorician and other artists, as the professor of knowledge and teacher of virtue. It was only in this aspect that the Sophist could compete with the philosopher. The name might be applied to particular TO THE SOPHIST. xlix artists, such as the poct or geometer, but only incidentally ; and their partial claims were absorbed in the universal pre- tensions of the Sophist par excellence. Further, these pre- tensions are here idealized: for it is doubtful whether even Gorgias or Hippias, who were ready to answer all comers, earried their professions to the extent described in pp. 232, 233. The nearest approach to an equally general statement of the question is made in the Protagoras, pp. 312 b—314 6, where Hippocrates is told that he is going to give his mind up to a Sophist without knowing what a Sophist is. “It is not enough to know that he is an artist, without knowing what is his par- ticular work.” (p. 312 ¢,d,e.) ‘Perhaps he is a merchant or retail-dealer in the food of the mind. Take care that he does not cheat us by praising his wares. Tor, if we buy them, we cannot examine them, until we have received them in our own persons either for good or ill®.” (pp. 313 e—314 Ὁ. Compare Soph. 223, 224.) Here there is the same assumption, which appears in the “ Sophist,” that the common name implies a common nature. But the analysis of the conception is carried only a little way, and the characteristic chosen is external merely, (a sufficient answer to those who suspect these dialogues because the grounds of distinction which are adopted in them are sometimes superficial). To return. Although no doubt is entertained that there is ἃ common nature answering to the name Sophist, this nature is, however, by no means easily found. “ The creature is wily and dangerous, and must be hunted with caution and good heed.” “He is not to be caught with one hand: we must lay our snares in every path, till we have surrounded him.” Whether or not the task was rightly chosen, it was no mean (19 e), where the itinerant habits of the Sophist are said to disqualify him for the task of conceiving the true state in act : in the Thesetetus, where it is said that b Other scattered hints respecting the Sophists are found in the Meno, where Anytus, who abhors them, can- not tell what they are, but knows that they are the ruin of their pupils: to which Socrates replies, “‘ Perhaps there is something in that” (καὶ ἴσως τι λέ- yeis): in the Republic, where they are regarded more as an effect than as a cause, as the mere reflectors of popular opinion, only teaching men what they desire to be taught: in the Timzus those who have “πὸ need of Socrates,” i.e. no genuine impulse towards philo- sophy, “ may profit by the converse of Prodicus, or of other wise and Heayen- taught men :” and in the Gorgias (520), where Socrates asserts that it is diffi- cult to distinguish the Rhetor from the ᾽ Sophist. | INTRODUCTION effort of generalization, to include in one notion persons 80 different as Protagoras and Hippias, and still more to embrace the versatile activity of any of them in one description. This meant little else than to express in one formula the intellectual spirit of the age. Plato shews his consciousness of this diffi- culty, and at the same time finds an occasion for satire, by giving four distinct classifications, according to each of which the Sophist may be referred to a different genus, while even under the same genus it is not always clear to which of the lesser species he belongs. To begin with the most obvious — characteristic, all art having been first divided into acquisi- © tive and creative, the Sophist is seen to angle for rich young men, and is accordingly ranged with the angler under the art of hunting, or catching by guile, which is one of the two main branches of appropriation without consent: which was previously distinguished from acquisition by contract. This aspect of him is treated playfully. He is the congener of the angler, with whom he parts company when they reach the art of hunting live things—the Sophist turning to rich meadow- lands of youth, which are irrigated by rivers of wealth. There he pursues, not like other huntsmen a wild, but a tame quarry, (at least if man is tame): nor this, as kidnappers and warriors do, by force, but by persuasion. And he persuades, not hke the lawyers, in public, but in private: not like the lover, at his own expense, but for reward: and this, not like the flatterer’s reward, a bare maintenance from hand to mouth, but in the form of money. (218 c—223 Ὁ.) This last touch is made the basis of a new line of definition, starting from the other main branch of acquisition, viz. ex- change. According to this, the Sophist is a merchant of mental wares: which may be either taken at second-hand and exported from city to city, in which case the Sophist is an itinerant trader; or he may be a retail dealer, or a manu- facturer, in his own city. (223 c—224 e°.) Plato next fixes on a characteristic of a less trivial kind, to which he refers afterwards as the most essentially distinctive of those which have been put forward. The Sophist talks, as has been said, to men in private on a great variety of topics; but his conversations have one feature in common. They are con- ¢ It is curious that paid teaching as re-admitted to Plato’s favour in the well as the “ Rhetoric of Nestor” are Laws. TO THE SOPHIST. li troversial. He is a controversialist and a teacher of the art of controversy. This brings him under the remaining branch of acquisition without consent, namely, forcible acquisition or contention: the art of open, as opposed to that of secret, appro- priation. Not that the Sophist is here viewed as acquiring know- ledge, but, as one engaged in preventing others from making good a position by argument, he is said to be concerned with acquisition (ef. p. 219 6: ᾿Επειδὴ δημιουργεῖ μὲν οὐδὲν τούτων, τὰ δὲ ὄντα καὶ γεγονότα τὰ μὲν χειροῦται λόγοις καὶ πράξεσι τὰ δὲ τοῖς χειρουμένοις οὐκ ἐπιτρέπει). He contends, then, not with bodily but mental force; not with long arguments, as in court, but through brief questions and replies: not on the infinity of details about which men wrangle, but on the general nature of the Just and Unjust, and of all other things: not, like some wearisome talkers, to the injury of his property, but (to note this point once more) to the increase of his gains. The So- phist’s procedure is here characterized as essentially abstract and negative: being distinguished by the former quality from ordinary converse, and by the latter from positive science and philosophy. (225 a—226 a.) It is not immediately apparent, however, how, under this description, the work of the Sophist is to be distinguished from the work of Socrates, except by the outward symptom that the one becomes rich by his trade and the other poor. And accordingly the two are brought into close companionship in the remarkable passage which follows. (226 b- 231 a). Controversy is, or should be, an art of separating the false from the true, of determining what propositions are not tenable. And this amounts to a most valuable purification of the mind. For of separation there are two kinds, the sepa- ration of like from like and the purgation of the good from the evil: and of mental evils there are two kinds, that civil war of reason and passion which is the disease of the soul, and ignorance, or spiritual ugliness, which is either conscious or unconscious. Unconscious ignorance is the last stage of mental deformity. And it is from this that men are freed when they are asked questions about something which they think they know, and are thus purged from the obstructions of conceit, without which purgation no learning will do them any good. This process is no other than the Elenchus. Shall we attri- bute this to the Sophist? Plato stands in doubt. h 2 lil INTRODUCTION We are thus led from observing a feature of the Sophist which any one might verify, to a theory of his end or function which is only temporarily admitted, and from which some- thing is at once detracted. Jor the value of his office, as a purifier of the mind, clearly depends in some measure on the reality of the arguments by which he convinces men of error. And these are presently shewn to be unreal. Yet Plato had a meaning in assigning to him this function even provisionally : and we have here perhaps the most striking appreciation of a contemporary phase of thought which is to be found in ancient philosophy. For it is the simple truth that Protagoras and Gorgias did imperfectly and unconsciously a part of the same work which Socrates did thoroughly and consciously: that their reasonings were to be valued chiefly for their negative results: that in breaking up the ground of old beliefs they did indispensable service as the pioneers of philosophy: and that this clearing of the way, by the application of a shrewd and fearless intellect to all matters sacred and profane, fami- liar and unfamiliar, and that chiefly in the way of question and denial, was a necessary step of progress, as it was cer- tainly the most widely-spread intellectual phenomenon of the generation which immediately preceded Socrates. The differ- ence between him and them, which is left unnoticed here though implied in what follows,—partly because the historical Socrates no longer exactly squared with Plato’s ideal,—is that the Sophist disputes as if he knew; Socrates asks questions as one desiring to know: the Sophist is contented with de- molishing an opponent’s theory, he is not conscious of any further aim; with Socrates each negative result is valued at once as a liberation of the mind from error, and as a forward step towards the positive apprehension of truth. This union or balance of the positive with the negative “arm,” it is Plato’s aim in this dialogue to vindicate and preserve. Thus the History of Philosophy, although not endorsing the assump- tion with which Plato sets out, that the common name Sophist must be significant of a common nature, confirms his estimate of the general tendency and common function of those to whom he assigns the name. Up to this point all is tentative and uncertain: and the definitions hitherto obtained are phenomenal merely. This is TO THE SOPHIST. 11] manifest from their number and variety. For of an object which is fully comprehended there is one adequate definition and only one. In order to come nearer to understanding the Sophist’s nature, we take up again the definition which appeared most suggestive, that which described his procedure as contro- versial. This art of controversy or disputation embraces all topics in heaven and earth. And those who admire the Sophist believe him to know all the things about which he disputes. This pretension refutes itself, for omniscience is not given to man. The essence of the Sophist is that he pretends to a knowledge which is unreal. Thus the disguises of our Proteus are stripped off, and we see him in his true colours, neither as a huntsman, nor as a merchant, nor as an intellectual wrestler, nor as a physician of the soul, but as the master of an art of illusion: a juggler, who imposes with the appearance of knowledge on inexperienced minds: just as the painter can pass off his shows for realities on the more thoughtless amongst young children. Hence he belongs to the multifarious class of imitators, or likeness-makers, and, not to dwell at present on the cardinal difficulty which this new notion involves, he is brought once more under a different summum genus. Hitherto, his race has been derived, by different lines, from the art of “ vetting,” his origin must now be referred to the art of “making,” all art having been at first divided into these two branches. ‘ Creation” is Divine and Human, and each of these again is divided according as the thing made is real or only a likeness of what is real. A dream, for instance, is a divinely- made likeness or illusion. A picture may be called a humanly- made dream. Of human likeness-making there are two kinds: one where the likeness is real, the other where the likeness is only apparent and relative to the individual who sees the like- ness. The Sophist’s arguments belong to this more shadowy or “phantastic” kind. And here he works not with instruments, but with his own person; not with knowledge of the things he imitates, namely, justice and virtue, but only having opinion respecting them: not innocently thinking that he knows them, but hiding a guilty consciousness of charlatanry. By pausing here we should include the public speaker, who is the counter- feit of the statesman as the Sophist is of-the philosopher. He, however, imposes on the public in lengthened addresses, liv INTRODUCTION whereas the Sophist’s business, as we have already said, is, by brief arguments, to compel individuals to contradict themselves. (281 c—236 a, 265 a—268.) The name is thus restricted to the dialectical as distinguished from the rhetorical aspect of the false use of the intellect. This is a distinction which Plato had not always observed: and in treating individual Sophists it was not easy to do so, for the two characters were often com- bined in the same person. Protagoras, for instance, as we learn from Plato’s dialogue of that name, professed himself to be equally a master of copiousness and brevity. And Socrates ob- serves in the Gorgias that Sophists and rhetoricians are mixed up together, and know not what to make of one another, nor do other men know what to make of them4. But Plato is here describing the ideal Sophist: and the function of fallacious scientific argument is ideally distinguishable from that of speaking so as to influence the feelings. The word 15, how- ever, allowed to regain the more extended application in Polit. 291 b, 303 Ὁ: Σοφιστική is here characterized as a method, and is to philo- sophy what ἀντιλογική is to διαλεκτική, What disputation is to scientific inquiry. It is possible that while restricting the application of the term on one side, Plato here extends it on another beyond the limits of his own habitual use, so as to include some of his own brethren of the Socratic family. He perhaps indicates that the Eristic tendency, which was growing strong by this time amongst the pupils of Kuclides of Megara, was defective in some of the elements of a true philosophy. The reason for thinking that he means this is not merely the emphatic mention of the art of controversy, which Plato is fond of distinguishing from real inquiry®, but the direction of the whole dialogue against the extreme of Eleatic doctrine, on which we know that the Megarian logic was based. This hypothesis also accounts for the Sophist being identified with a picture of the cross-examining spirit, which, as Mr. Grote 4 He tells Callicles afterwards (p. Rep. 5, 454 a—c; Phd. go ἢ, tore; 520 a) that the Sophist is superior to Theet.164¢; Men.8o0e. In this enu- the Rhetor, as the lawgiver is to the meration the description of the young judge: i.e. the Sophist furnishes the dialecticians in Phileb. 15 d 6, should Rhetor with ideas and arguments. uot be omitted: with which compare © The chief passages in which Plato also Rep. 7, 539 Ὁ. censures ἀντιλογική are the following: TO THE SOPHIST. ly observes, not only resembles Socrates, but resembles no one else. For the Megarians followed Socrates in refuting opinions: but departed from him by separating the negative process from the inductive aim, and, in directing their method to the resolution of phenomena, and the establishment by this means of an abstract being, or goodness, or thought, returned partially to the dogmatism of Zeno. There are a few detached points which it will be well to notice before we turn from this frame-work of satirical defini- tion to the larger and more dialectical portion of the dialogue. 1. Though the Sophist is of course an artist anda man of science (for the definition proceeds through a classification of the sciences), yet the science of learning and knowing (76 μαθηματικὸν---εἶδος ὅλον τῶν τεχνῶν Kal TO τῆς γνωρίσεως) is the only heading of those introduced at first, viz.; (ποιητική----κτητική τς πράτ τ - ὙΠ μι μαθηματικὴ καὶ χρηματ- ἀγων- θηρευτ- γνωριστική LOTLKN LOTUKN ική); under which no attempt is made to bring him. This touch of satire can hardly be unintentional. 2. The variety of definitions to which we are led by the process of dichotomies when applied to the Sophist, not only shews that his nature is difficult to grasp, but also proves the method to be one-sided and inadequate. The angler, an artist, by the way, who is known to Homer (Od. 4, 369), has easily a place assigned him, because the conception of his art, when analysed, is not found to contain elements which are imper- fectly known. But the activity of the Sophist is complex and various ; and when the principle, on which his other traits depend, is at last found, this leads the way to difficulties, which the process of mere logical distinction is powerless to resolve. And this for two reasons: because the difficulty lies in that notion of absolute difference on which the method itself rests; and because for the solution of the difficulty there is required the complementary notion of combination, commu- nion, correlation: which division cannot dispense with indeed (since the members of each division are unities and general forms), but throws into the background. δΔιακριτικὴ needs to be supplemented by συγκριτική : the διαλεκτικὸς only knows lvi INTRODUCTION when and how. Hence it is further necessary to examine how the two great categories of sameness and difference, on which this double process depends, are related to each other in their most abstract form f. 3. The idea of purification, connected here with the Elen- chus, or negative dialectic, and in the Politicus with the banish- ment of offending members from the state (this being a political as the former was a mental purgation), though in both places illustrated from the art of medicine, probably originated in the mysteries and was derived by Plato from a Pythagorean source. Compare the καθαρμοί of Empedocles, and see pp. 80-82 of the Phedo. It may be noticed that, in the Phedo, the notion of impurity is associated with all that is sensible and bodily, as contrasted with the ideal: in these dialogues the evils deprecated are falsehood in the mind and wickedness in the state, which are only mythically identified with the corporeal element, and purification is the separation of the evil from the good. 4. The comprehension under one heading of the processes of dialectic, pharmacy, ablution, scouring, sweeping, and even clothes-brushing, gives rise to the remark that scientific method ignores all those distinctions of worth, respectability, triviality, and baseness, which rest on feeling and habit, and looks only on those resemblances and differences which are acknowledged by Reason. This may be compared with the saying of Parme- nides to the youthful Socrates, that when philosophy has taken hold of him as it will one day take hold, he will no longer have regard to the opinions of men, but will view all things, however vulgar or base, in the light of Universal Forms. On this point enough has perhaps been said in the notes. But there is some- thing extremely characteristic of the spirit of these dialogues, in the mixture of scientific calmness and ironical satisfaction with which the high things of this world are thus brought to the level of the meanest 8. is only partially applicable. g Compare the treatment of rhetoric f See the passage of the Politicus (285 d) where the argument from ex- ample is vindicated on the ground that the highest subjects have no analogies which are immediately palpable to sense. It is to such as these that classification, as a method of definition, Υ in the Gorgias as coordinate with cook- ing, and in the Huthydemus as a de- partment of magic (τῆς τῶν ἐπῴδων τέχνη"). TO THE SOPHIST. lvil 5. The form of evil from which deliverance is effected by refutation deserves a passing notice, although the thought is one of the most familiar to readers of Plato: the greatest igno- rance, i.e. ignorance which the mind mistakes for knowledge. So the false statesmen are said to have the greatest ignorance of the greatest of all subjects, in that they are ignorant of statecraft, when they think they are most certainly informed of this, And in the analysis of the ridiculous, in the Philebus, the same bad eminence is given to the conceit of knowledgei. (See also Legg. g, 863 ¢.) Yet in the conclusion of this dialogue it would seem as though unconscious ignorance were the less culpable ; for the Sophist is defined as having a guilty suspicion that all is not right within. The inconsistency of these two views does not seem to be noticed by Plato, who would probably, however, have said, if he had been taxed with it, ‘ that he meant by conscious ignorance, the ignorance of one desirous to know.’ Still, the notion of a state of ignorance acquiesced in, not- withstanding a suspicion that it exists, is hardly reconcileable with the Socratic principle, which is here made the ground of the Socratic cross-examination, that no soul is willingly ignorant of anything. The more practical view, which is turned to the disadvantage of the Sophist as an “ironical mimic,” belongs to the later phase of Platonism. See the passage in the ninth book of the Laws, already quoted, where an attempt is made to reconcile the theory that injustice is never voluntary, with legislation for the exemption from punishment of involuntary crime. 6. Plato’s later manner may also be detected in the grave digression, suggested by the logical distinction of the Art of Making into Divine and human, in which it is solemnly asserted that the world was made by God in accordance with Reason, and not by the spontaneous working of Nature or Chance. The tune of this passage closely resembles that of the tenth book of the Laws: where the persuasive demon- stration, the λόγος μετὰ πειθοῦς ἀναγκαίας here spoken of, is applied to an imaginary case. The strong reprobation in which the opposite view is held, and the moral and religious fervour with which the answer of Theztetus is received, are h Polit. 302 a. i Phileb. 48 e. k Laws, 861-864. i ἵν 1] INTRODUCTION in keeping with the impressive solemnity and earnestness of Plato’s latest writings. (See especially Legg. 10, 889.) II, In defining the Sophist as an illusory controversialist, we seem to have caught him in our net; but we only seem to have caught him: for by his controversial art he will prove that our net is non-existent, and as we are allowed no weapons but arguments, to be refuted is to fail. However shameless it may appear for a controversialist, who is daily detecting falsehood, to say that falsehood is impossible, he will use this argument in self-defence, and we must meet his logie with a higher logic or give up the battle. Our object will not merely be to refute him, for that would be after all only a controver- sial victory like his, but to throw fresh light upon the whole question which his art confuses,—that of the nature and cor- relation of the affirmative and negative elements in thought, or, according to the more objective mode of conception which Plato still preserves, of Being and Not-Being. Thus we are led at once to the most abstract form of the inquiry, the nature of the negative idea; even the relation of this idea to a subject being through the greater part of the discussion left out of view. The Sophist 15 accused of making a false impression. But to speak of false impressions is to assert an existence which is in the same breath denied—to predicate reality of the unreal. Is this possible? That depends on the meaning of the word not, and of the word eaistence, and their relation to each other. This question has a double bearing on the Sophist, of whose definition we are in search. If it is proved that this combination of existence and non-existence is possible, he exists, but his foundation is insecure, for his con- troversial art is based on the absolute mutual exclusion of these alternatives. If on the other hand his art is sound, he escapes refutation, but only by proving his own non-existence. There is hardly to be mistaken in the dialogue this twofold refer- ence, which is not a little perplexing to the modern reader, a reference on the one hand to the problem of the existence of phenomena, one of the deepest of all to Plato, and, on the other, to the oppositions of false science, that “last decom- position of the reason, which consisted in separating everything from all things!’ Yet both this error and that difficulty 1 Soph. 259 e. TO THE SOPHIST. lix are included in the sweeping generalization of the μὴ ov, and both are met by the new formula of the Relativity of Negative Expressions. This has also a bearing, as Plato did not fail to discover, on the method of logical divisions. Diwresis cannot be safely used apart from Synagégée. Classes mutually exclusive are still to be viewed in their relations to each other. The mind must not be dazzled by difference, so as to overlook resemblance, nor by resemblance, so as to neglect true differ- ences. By a resuscitation of the Heraclitean principle in the world of mind, it is again found that the objects of thought are held asunder and together at once (διαφερόμενον ἀεὶ συμφέ- pera). And thus the notion of Being is not less modified than the notions of Appearance and the Negation of Being. For Being can be no longer held as a mere Absolute, but stands related to Not-Being, which it differs from, and yet includes. Here also it appears to the modern reader as if conceptions, which are to him radically distinct, are blended, not to say confused. For Being seems to be conceived at once logically, as the positive in thought and speech, and metaphysically, as an ‘‘hypostatized” idea. But in order to enter into Plato’s meaning, it is necessary to study his position in this dialogue, as he has in some measure enabled us to do, historically. The fallacies which we find satirized in the Euthydemus are chiefly of two kinds; in one of which all resemblance or analogy is supposed to imply identity and to exclude the notion of difference, while in the other all difference is conceived as absolute difference, exclusive of all resemblance and relation: ‘If I know one thing, I know all things, for I cannot know and not know ;’ ‘If Zeus is my God, he is mine to do what I please with him;’ ‘That which is different from the idea of beauty cannot be beautiful, and so on. And thus all propo- sitions except identical propositions are declared impossible, a theory which Aristotle imputes to the followers of Antisthenes. Another paradox, which is likewise attributed to the Cynic, appears in the same dialogue,— the impossibility of negative argument (μὴ εἶναι ἀντιλέγειν). The above is a humorous picture of the same notions with which Plato deals seriously in the present dialogue. That the same cannot be different, nor the different the same; that predication is impossible, that is, 12 Ix INTRODUCTION there can be no relation between different ideas; above all, that falsehood cannot be disproved, for that to deny existence, while naming existence, involves a contradiction in terms,— these are in substance the very theories which Plato here undertakes to modify. Now in accounting for these aberra- tions of thought, to say that the Organon did not yet exist, is to state what, though true and important to remember, does not afford a sufficient explanation—daAnlés μέν, οὐθὲν δὲ σαφές. It is true that in the shape in which they then appeared, they could have no strength now. But their strength then lay in a mode of thought, which prevailed very extensively in that age, and which had exercised a more powerful influence over Plato himself than any other except that of Socrates; a mode of thought derived in great part uncon- sciously from the philosophy of Parmenides and the dialectic of Zeno: the same which appears in such assumptions (familiar to the student of the Theetetus) as that Socrates ill is a different man from Socrates well (Thext. 159 b), and that everything must be either known or not known by the mind (Ib. 188 a). This may be described as the tendency to view every subject in the light of abstract alternatives: to apply the language of logic immediately to the sensible world: to reject as matter of fact that which cannot at once be formu- lated as an idea. This “disease,” as we can imagine him to have called it, Plato here traces to its origin in the teaching of Parmenides, and thus redeems the promise made by Socrates in the Theeetetus, there not fulfilled, to examine the deep wisdom of this man: the greatest of those who uphold the indissoluble unity of Being. (Thezt. 183 e.) In doing so, he not only confutes others who had pushed the tendency in question to an extreme, (he rather uses them as a beacon to indicate where the truth does not lie,) but, what is of more importance, develops further, or at least defines more clearly, his own central point of view. or he also had yielded to the charm of “the Eleatic Palamedes” and had held Parmenides “in reverence and awe:” nor had the dominance of this idea been merely logical, but had amounted to a speculative convic- tion, may we not even say, a theological belief? We cannot tell whether this impression had at all been derived from Socrates, whom he has represented as meeting TO THE SOPHIST. Ix with the philosopher in early youth. Socrates may have spoken of Parmenides, as he did of Heraclitus, though his own work in philosophy was independent of all influence from without. At all events it is quite possible that even during the time of his converse with Socrates, Plato may haye been attracted towards the Eleatic School. His master’s influence was unobtrusive, not hindering the accretion of ideas from all sides, and only after his death would be found to “ comprehend all other.” It was probably at a still earlier time that Plato’s interest and curiosity was excited by the fine discourses and immense popularity of Protagoras and Gorgias; and it is certain, on the authority of Aristotle, that his first deep draught of philosophy had been received from Cratylus, who taught him the Heraclitean doctrine that “all was motion.” This theory, as then held by the enthusiasts of Ephesus, whom Plato has satirized, was the secondary and less noble phase of a great thought—that all which abides eternally is a universal eyer-active Law of Becoming. Heraclitus was no materialist. “‘ Matter” had no existence for him, and he denied the separate existence of all “ Form” except the Highest Law, whose Per- manence is Perpetual Energy. In the hands of his followers, however, the assertion of this universal law seems to have degenerated into a mere doctrine of the relativity of particular being. And here the Eastern theorists were met by Zeno, who in support of the Eleatic faith in One Sole Being, proved that all relative existence was self-contradictory and inconceiy- able by Reason. Time and Motion, into which the sensible universe had already been resolved, were themselves annihi- lated. The movement of the intellect, by which this defensive negative process was effected, was the first conscious dialectic, the germ of much in Plato and of more in Aristotle, and, in conjunction with the Socratic Elenchus, the direct parent of the method which in this dialogue, and somewhat differently in the Parmenides, is turned against the hypothesis of the simple absoluteness of Bemg™. But however important logi- eally, the philosophy of Zeno, like that of Cratylus, while more definite, was also narrower than that of his master. He had m The Zenoniau method is “ parri- ἐστιν" ef καὶ ἔστιν, ἀκατάληπτον ἂν- cidally”’ turned against the Eleatic θρώπῳ' εἰ καὶ καταληπτόν, ἀνερμήνευτον doctrine in the thesis of Gorgias: οὐδέν καὶ ἀδιεξήγητον τοῖς πέλας. Ix INTRODUCTION descended from metaphysics to logic, and in endeavouring to hold the Absolute against all comers had assumed an atti- tude which was purely negative, and had adopted a method which, though of great significance, was merely abstract, and not directly applicable to the solution of any real problem. Plato, however, had “ risen to the height of the great argu- ment,” and had felt, not only the dialectical might of Zeno, but the transcendental sublimity of Parmenides. It is possible that he may have derived some of his own most famous imagery from the opening lines of the poem on the Nature of Things, where the philosophic impulse is represented as a car drawn by swift steeds, and the philosopher as the comrade of immortal charioteers. Be that as it may, a modern reader can hardly imagine the effect which the impressive lines of Parmenides must have produced on the mind of Plato, when already convinced by Cratylus of the utter changeableness of “all that seems.” Something analagous may have been ex- perienced by individual students of Spinoza, Kant, or Hegel ; but philosophical belief in modern times presents for the most part but a faint image of the heaven of contemplation into which Plato must have been carried away on hearing reiterated with the eloquence of energetic faith, and proved as a neces- sary truth of Reason, the absolute Existence of One Being, inseparable from thought, equable, unchangeable, without beginning and without end, with no past or future, but an everlasting Now; however apparently discrete, yet really con- tinuous or omnipresent, so that differences of space are done away as completely as differences of time; whence phenomenal distinctions of all kinds, relation, change, beginning, ending, time, space, motion, are thrust out of sight or are seen to vanish away. This intellectual movement, by which we suppose Plato to have been affected, was confirmed, but also gradually modified, by his contemplation of the work of Socrates. In reflecting on the manner and substance of that wonderful endless talk, and on the ruling motive of that unswerving life, he saw the elements of all previous speculation brought into antagonism and yet into immediate relation with the common thoughts and common life of men,—to whose mental and political state the issue of that antagonism had given a deep and bitter interest. 7 1 TO THE SOPHIST. Ixiil Before the cross-questioning of Socrates, which brought men to know the vanity of their own knowledge, the most fixed opinions were seen first to waver, and then to disappear. This Plato associated with the changeableness of phenomena ac- cording to Heraclitus; which viewed subjectively becomes the relativeness of sense, according to the doctrines of Protagoras and Aristippus: a relativeness which at the touch of negative dialectic, such as that of Zeno, is reduced to nothingness. But the result of the method of Socrates was not merely negative. His aim was to define, that is, to lay bare the one conception which belongs universally and unalterably to each subject of inquiry. In such a conception, if it were found, his mind would gladly rest. This is well expressed by Aristotle, who says that Socrates was the first who checked the aimless eareer of thought, and fixed the mind on Definition: πρώτου περὶ ὁρισμοὺς ἐπιστήσαντος τὴν διάνοιαν. Now there is here implied a new and independent assertion of the Absolute; for the endeavour of Socrates had no meaning, if the “ Know- ledge” which he sought were less than the knowledge of that which is always and everywhere true; if the ignorance of which he accused himself and convinced others, were ignorance only of the relative, the transient, or the phenomenal. But this Absolute of Socrates differs from that of Parmenides in two important respects. 1. The Substance or Reality of which he speaks is not asserted as if known, but sought for as still unknown. The Existence of Being, which Parmenides asserted with so much vehemence, is taken for granted, and the mind is called away from the absorbing contemplation of this truth to the consi- deration of a new problem, which may be thus stated gene- rally : “ What is Being? or What is the form of Bemg?” The change of mental attitude expressed in these few words,—from asserting ‘ Being is” to asking “ What is Being?” is of the highest importance; for without the consciousness which is here evolved, that knowledge is a synthesis of a less general with a more general notion, the growth of science would have been arrested. Philosophers would have been contented with either assigning universality to some particular thing, or, like the Eleatics, excluding the particular from cognition. 2. Further, he did not ask the question in this merely Ixiv INTRODUCTION abstract form: he implied an absolute standard of truth and good; but, as the word ‘‘ good” reminds us, his inquiries had an immediate bearing on the life of men. Hence, instead of attempting at once to solve the problem, “ What is Being ?” he sought to determine “ What is righteous, what is un- righteous, what is a state, what is the true statesman, what is government, what is it to be fit to govern?’ The solution of these problems was approached by what Bacon would have called a process of exclusions, through a series of hypotheses, which were successively modified or relinquished when in some case not found to apply to the subject of definition. And while things commonly confused were thus distinguished, things commonly distinguished (e.g. folly and madness) were not less unexpectedly combined. 3. The personal attributes of Socrates enhanced this union of the universal with the particular, and of the abstract with the concrete, in his method of talk. The eye that was fixed on the unchangeableness of truth and right, was the same which pierced through and through the follies of his contemporaries ; the lofty soul had a cynical exterior, the widest generalizations were hidden beneath the meanest instances, the imperturbable, urbane, ironical demeanour, helped to bring the dry light of reason into continual, immediate contact with the ifinite anomalies of opinion and action; the strange being, unlike all other men, had a direct, unmistakeable influence on almost all. By contrast with him the hollowness of all pretence, espe- cially in other teachers, was clearly seen, while his example gave the appearance of meanness to those who taught for pay. Yet he was the first to admit their individual excellences and accomplishments; while in conversation with him their real characteristics, their strength as well as their weakness, were most truly manifested. Thus with Socrates began a philosophic movement which in some elements was kindred to the Eleatic, but radically different in others ;—kindred, because vindicating by the refu- tation of falsehood an ideal truth; different, because inductive in method, and practical as well as speculative in ultimate aim —identifying truth with good. But in continuing and interpreting this movement, Plato at first dwelt consciously rather on the former than the latter TO THE SOPHIST. Ixv aspect of Socratic thought; rather on the absolute contrast between the actual state of human opinion and the ideal of Knowledge, than on the nature of Knowledge as implying a relation of the mind to “ Being,” or of the Universal to the Particular. This, as may be gathered indirectly from this dia- logue, was partly due to the prevalence of the Eleatic impulse —the conviction, namely, of the incommunicable perfection of abstract Being, the sole object of Knowledge or true thought: but partly also to the general law by which belief always precedes criticism. The problem of the post-Socratic philo- sophy for those who did not hold with Antisthenes that Defi- nition was merely nominal, was, granting the possibility of Knowledge and the existence of general forms, 1. What is Knowledge? 2. What are the εἴδη And, from the objective character of the Greek philosophy, the first of these two ques- tions was chiefly, although not wholly, studied in the light of the second. In other words, the effort of Socrates was to find the εἶδος of man, justice, temperance, &c.; that of his followers was to find the nature of the εἶδος generally. But, just as the Existence of Being was asserted, before any one thought of asking, What is Being? so, in entering on this new stage of thought, Plato believes in Knowledge and the Ideas before he examines them, and his dialectic is for a time coloured with a haze of imagination. He is at first contented with declaring that Knowledge is the only real ground of virtue, and that accordingly all virtue is essentially one. Presently a question rises about the Origin of Knowledge—How can Knowledge have a beginning? For how can a man inquire into what he does not know? How are we to conceive the transition from ignorance to certainty? This question is answered, as Plato elsewhere answers questions which are not ripe for solution, mythically. We learn by recollection, as appears from the lessons of geometry where the teacher leads the pupil to draw forth from his own mind what the moment previously he did not know. Thus the “ Eristic” objection is removed, that a man cannot inquire about either what he knows or what he does not know: and the anticipation of poetry and prophecy, that we are immortal beings, is confirmed. To learn is to awaken slumbering knowledge. ‘The Soul has been every- where and has seen all things, and therefore must have known k Ixvi INTRODUCTION all things before coming hither: and if she can recover one thing only, there is hope that she may by courageous efforts regain the rest.” (Men. 81.) By this hypothesis the true objects of knowledge are relegated to another world than this and to a previous life. The objects of sense remind us of them through a process of association. (Phedo.) These Eternal Forms the Soul beheld in her first flight, ere she lost her wings, when the impulse of the higher love carried her amongst immortal chariots, beyond the visible sphere, into the plain of truth, where Beauty, Justice, Temperance, Wisdom, dwell eternally, not as they are imagined but as they are known. (Pheedr.) This is the poetical mode of conceiving of the ideas, in which Plato embodied the feelings of wonder and delight with which he contemplated the first real inquiry which the world had seen. The object and end of that inquiry appeared to him surrounded with a mystic halo,—like his own image of Beauty, lightening from a transcendent height,—annihilating and making worthless the shadows which surround us here. But Plato was far from resting in this as a final theory of Knowledge. His belief in immortality and pre-existence remained, it is true; but did not supersede other inquiries con- cerning the ideas, which were wholly independent of such a theory, and proceeded simply by experience and reflection. Thus in the Republic, the vision of the ideas in their purity, without help from sense, is the goal towards which the mind is allowed to climb up the ladder of hypotheses, and although we hear of an intellectual region, the context shews this language to be metaphorical, rather than mythological as in the Phedrus and Phedon. The line is still drawn sharply and broadly be- tween Being as the object of knowledge and Not-Being as the object of ignorance; but, first, an intermediate state, having for object the changeable, which is and is not, is crudely imagined, and, at a later period of the discussion (bk. vii.), the succes- sive steps by which the mind rises from the lowest ignorance - to the highest knowledge are supplied. No mention is made of recollection, unless we count as such the mythical account of Lethe in bk. x.; and immediately after the allegory of the cave, in which the sensible has been represented as the copy of the ideal world, we have a piece of psychological analysis, in which TO THE SOPHIST. Ixvil the idea is spoken of as the universal element evolved by Reason from the impressions of Sense. ‘ Intelligence is called in to determine between the contrarieties of sense. I see two fingers, one large the other small. Sight gives me opposite im- pressions respecting objects which are alike. But sight cannot answer the questions which the mind cannot but ask hereupon. Is this puzzling impression one, or two? If two, then each is one, and soon. Thus intelligence distinguishes between great and small, which in the sensation of vision were confused. And then only are we induced to ask the question which reason suggests, ‘ What is the nature of greatness and small- ness?’ The ideas thus distinguished are objects of Reason, the former confused impression was received through sight.” (Vil. 524.) Such a relation between intelligence and sensation is ac- knowledged even in the Phedrus, in the midst of the mythical description of the Plain of Truth: Δεῖ yap ἄνθρωπον συνιέναι Kar εἶδος λεγόμενον, ἐκ πολλῶν ἰὸν αἰσθήσεων εἰς ἕν λογισμῷ ξυναιρούμενον : though it is immediately added, “ Now this is recollection of what the mind has seen in a previous state.” In both these passages the mind is seen to approach the εἴδη through reflection on the experience of sense. The same notion is still more clearly expressed in the Theztetus (184, 5): “ We speak commonly of seeing with the eye, hearing with the ear, and so forth: but in truth it is with the mind that we see and hear, and feel and taste, and smell. The mind receives these particular impressions through the organs of the different senses. (Cf. Phileb. 33 ¢c.) But there are some things which the mind perceives without any such corporeal aid. These are not par- ticular but universal. For instance, the mind receives through touch an impression of softness from a soft thing, of hardness from a hard thing. But when the mind says this zs hard, a new element arises, viz. the Being of the hardness, which is perceived, not through any of the senses, but by the mind alone, and the Idea of hardness is then first perceived. Fur- ther, that hardness and softness are opposed and that the opposition between them is real, these and the like thoughts the mind herself determines, when she reviews and compares the impressions which she has received through the senses.” The idea, then, in this, which may be termed the psychological ka Ixvill INTRODUCTION aspect, is that unity which the mind seeks amidst the variety of sensible impressions, distinguishing what is confused in sense, and uniting scattered phenomena in one conception: the uni- versal element, which is latent in the mind’s first impression of each object, and is disengaged by reflection to be contem- plated by reason. The right performance of this process is the secret of method: “to unite and divide in thought accord- ing to natural forms, that is, according to the reality of things, not mangling the victims like a bad sacrificer.” (Phzedr. 265 e.) It is in connection with this logical or dialectical process that the word εἶδος is most frequently used by Plato. The ideas are now seen as objects of intelligence, which remain unchanged, while the sensations through which the mind is awakened to perceive them are perpetually giving place to new and perhaps opposite impressions. (See Cratyl. 440.) Each is separated from the phenomena through which it was at first recognized, in an isolation hike that of the Eleatic Being, as the absolute in which the relative is done away: the ἀνυπόθετον, independent of external support; the universal absorbing the particular. But here several difficulties arise. 1. How is the absoluteness of Knowledge reconcileable with the possibility of error? For if everything is either known or unknown, how can that which is unknown be in any way the object of belief? Hence the hypothesis in Rep. bk. ν. of “that which is and is not” as the object of opinion, and the elaborate ἀπορίαι of the Theztetus, where it is attempted to account for error by imagining thought as a process between sensation and memory, or between memory and memory. A nearly parallel difficulty is put in the Parmenides. If there is no relation between the perfect and the imperfect, man cannot know the ideas, nor can the divine mind be cognizant of human thoughts. 2. How can the umversal be absolute and yet embrace par- ticulars? This or a cognate difficulty is raised in the Thex- tetus, where it is found impossible to distinguish the whole from the sum of the parts: the same ἀπορία is explicitly stated in the Philebus, where it is asked, how can One exist in many and yet be One?—and in the Parmenides, through the illus- tration of the sail, which covers many men, but covers each only by a part of itself. The notion of μέθεξις, which Socrates TO THE SOPHIST. lx1x introduces in the Parmenides, only creates new difficulties, but something approaching a rational solution appears in the Philebus, where Number is seen to mediate between Unity and Infinity. 3. Granting the existence of abstract ideas of resemblance, difference, justice, beauty, good; shall we say that the idea of man, or fire, or water, or, still more, of mud, dirt, hair, exist absolutely” ? (Parm.) 4. Must not ideas be related to one another? For is not dialectic, and even language, a movement or process between ideas? Nay, if the idea is the cause of phenomena, must there not be a principle of life or movement inherent in each idea? In the Republic, for example, the operations of science are conceived as a movement along the chain of true ideas, a way upwards and downwards which is the same. And at the head of this nexus of εἴδη is the form of Good, which in some way unexplained is the cause of Being and of Knowledge. In the Philebus also there is imagined a process between the limit and the unlimited, the one and the many, and a cause of this process is supposed. And in the Timeeus the Creator prepares for his work by welding together opposite ideas. ‘Thus the Sophist and Parmenides are not the sole response in Plato to the challenge of Socrates, “I should admire any man who could shew that Resemblance, Difference, Plurality, Unity, Motion, Rest, admitted of composition and division (ἐν ἑαυτοῖς ταῦτα δυνάμενα συγκεράννυσθαι καὶ διακρίνεσθαι... τὴν αὐτὴν ταύτην ἀπορίαν ἐν αὐτοῖς τοῖς εἴδεσι παντοδαπῶς πλεκομένην ... ἐπιδεῖξαι. Parm. 129 e). 5. If the idea, as Socrates urges when pressed by Par- menides (Ib. 132 b), is a conception of the mind, yet that con- ception must have an object, and Knowledge is in some way a process between subject and object®, in which, if the mind is active, the object of Knowledge must be conceived as passive. In this way also the Eternal Form is brought back from the n When Plato makes Parmenides ἑκάστου τῆς φύσεως ἅψασθαι ᾧ προσήκει remark on this, “ Philosophy has ποῦ yet acquired her final hold on you,” he is perhaps covertly satirizing the thoroughness of the Megarian logic. ° See Rep. 6, 490 b. Πρὶν αὐτοῦ ὃ ἔστιν ψυχῆς ἐφάπτεσθαι τοῦ τοιούτου" προσ- U \ ~ Ἀπ U Ν \ ἥκει δὲ ξυγγενεῖ ᾧ πλησιάσας καὶ μιγεὶς τῷ ὄντι ὄντως, γεννήσας νοῦν καὶ ἀλή- θειαν, γνοίη τε καὶ ἀληθῶς ζῴη καὶ τρέ- φοιτο. καὶ οὕτω λήγοι ὠδῖνος, πρὶν δ᾽ οὔ. Ιχχ INTRODUCTION fruitless isolation in which it has been placed by the first efforts of purely abstract thought; and the reflection rises that Perfect Being must include the attributes of consciousness and life, and therefore, in a certain sense, of motion. (Soph. 248.) The difficulties which attend the hypothesis of the ideas are at least as clearly stated by Plato as by Aristotle: and his statements have also the advantage of being directed against the phase of the doctrine which he knew and to which he had been himself inclined, and not to the confused Pythagorean fancies of his followers. The question is most clearly enun- ciited in the Theztetus from the side of Knowledge, and in the Parmenides from the side of Being. But those who re- member the various fertility of Plato’s mind will not expect the objections raised in different dialogues to be precisely the same. He never sought to bind the play of thought in a single formula. When it had once occurred to him to criticize the theory of ideas, the problem was sure to be seen by him in changing lights, although the elements of the question remain essentially unaltered. Is each idea one or many, at rest or in motion, isolated or related to others, limiting or limited; is Being inanimate or endowed with life, exclusive of particulars, or how related to them? Is it possible wholly to separate Knowledge from sense and opinion? These, if not the same question, form a class of questions, of the reality of which Plato is conscious in some dialogues, but appears wholly unconscious in others (for instance in the Pheedo and Cratylus). The dialogues, besides the Sophist and Politicus, in which the effect of this movement within Platonism in the mind of its founder are most evident, are the Philebus, Timzeus, and Laws. In the Philebus, not only is the difficulty stated at the outset, in the form of the problem how to reconcile the antithesis between the one and many, but the combination and resolu- tion of ideas is elaborately exemplified, and a Cause of their combination in reality is conceived. The earlier part of the Timzeus contains a similar passage, and in both the author has laboured to imagine the mode in which the ideal and corporeal are conjoined. Both anticipate Aristotle in speaking of matter (ἄπειρον, τιθήνη), and of a cause by which form is impressed on matter. The Philebus has also a graduated scale of Know- ledges, in which the knowledge of the particular and concrete, TO THE SOPHIST. Ixxi although regarded as “impure,” is deliberately allowed to have a place. And in the Laws, while the εἴδη are not heard of except as logical forms, and a higher movement (namely that of mind) is imagined as the cause both of rest and motion (το, 895), Plato is vehement in asserting that mind in ad its manifestations is prior to the elements and controls them. The object of the preceding remarks has been to shew (1) That side by side with the poetical or metaphysical there grew up in Plato’s mind a logical mode of conceiving the ideas ; (2) That as he viewed them in this two-fold aspect, and saw the latter of the two more clearly, he became conscious of the difficulties which the theory involved; and (3) That he was led, partly through the consideration of these difficulties, to alter considerably his theory of Knowledge and Being: pass- ing from the bare assertion of an absolute object of Mind, to which he had been led by interpreting Socrates through Parmenides, towards the Aristotelian conception of logical categories and of Being as composed of Matter and Form by an efficient Cause. Turning now to the Sophist, from which we have been too long detained, we find the elaborate treatment of a difficulty, which is allowed to have been occasioned by the exclusiveness of the Eleatic point of view. This difficulty is not, as in the Philebus, how to find a meeting-point between unity and in- finity, but one more abstract still, how to explain the possibility of combining the positive and negative in thought. Philosophy by aspiring to the pure form of Being had become “dark from excess of light;” had soared beyond the ken of mortals into an unseen heaven; and in “turning away her mind” from that which is not—from the unreal, and therefore from nega- tion—had deprived herself of the only weapon which could be of any avail to her against the spurious counterfeits of herself. She must deny as well as affirm, and she cannot deny without giving a certain place to Not-Being. It has been already said, that the Negative is here viewed in its ultimate abstraction. The distinctions of Aristotle, between ψεῦδος, στέρησις, and δύναμις or κατὰ συμβεβηκός, which he employed in criticizing Plato, are certainly not thought of, but neither were they required, at least in the statement of the question. For false- hood is the object or correlative of denial, and both are equally Ixxil INTRODUCTION expressed whenever the word “ not” is uttered: and negation > “per accidens” must obviously be explained through the theory of simple negation. The question is, does this word “not” imply such absolute severance between the terms which it divides, as to exclude the possibility of any relation between them? If A is exclusive of B, is B therefore incapable of all communion or combination with A? If so, a counterfeit of reality is inconceivable, for it is not reality, and yet partakes of reality in so far as it is really a counterfeit. This question is raised not with respect to individuals, or infime species, in which the coexistence of sameness and difference was an ad- mitted fact (Phil. 15 d), but with respect to general ideas, and the most universal of these, beginning with the most compre- hensive of all ideas, viz. that of Being. The “absolute sever- ance,’ which the injunction of Parmenides requires, between that which Is, and that which Is Not, was the origin and type of the spirit “which would separate each thing from every other” (Soph. 259 e); and the correction of this deeply-rooted tendency was necessary in order to make inquiry possible. After a statement of the perplexities in which the notion of Not-Being is involved according to the ordinary conception of it as the opposite of Being, shewing that it is inconceivable either as a predicate or as a subject, or as the object of refuta- tion and denial; the Stranger expresses his intention, in this desperate case, of attacking the revered authority of Par- menides. This opens the whole question of the Nature of Being, and the theories of previous and contemporary philoso- phers on the subject. And in the course of the inquiry it is found that the notion of Being, according to prevailing views, is no less full of contradictions than that of Not-Being. Amongst the earlier thinkers, those who hold a fixed plurality of Beings must admit that existence is common to all these, and hence whatever number they assert must either be in- creased, or reduced to one. Those who, with Parmenides, believe in the Unity of Being, will find it hard to keep this unity inviolate while they use the terms Being, One, Whole, each with a distinct meaning, and while they admit, as they needs must, that a whole has parts. These difficulties are only briefly indicated: the chief criti- cism of Parmenides, or rather the modification of his view, TO THE SOPHIST. Ixxitl which has been promised above, is made indirectly, and only emerges when the contemporary phase of Greek philosophy has been examined in its two chief aspects. Here no attempt is made to determine the exact number of Beings. The battle rages about a different point. Is Being corporeal or ideal? Some hold that nothing exists but bodies, which they can touch and handle: their opponents break up these bodies by dialectic into a flux of change, and assert the sole existence of certain bodiless ideas. Now the former, if pressed, and if they were capable of argument, would admit the existence of a soul, and of virtue and vice as attributes of the soul; and, though they might contend that the soul is corporeal, they could hardly maintain this of justice or wisdom. Hence they may be willing to sub- stitute for body as the characteristic of Being, the power of acting or of being acted upon. Being is possibility of energy. But the idealists will refuse this definition. Acting and suffering they say are properties not of Being, but of Becom- ing: for Being is exempt from change. Whereupon we ask them whether to know is an active, and to be known a passive verb; and whether Being therefore, so far as known, is not acted upon? And here, apart from logic, the reflection rises, that Perfect Being cannot be devoid of life and movement, and the power of thought. That which has thought has life, that which has life has a soul, and that which has a soul cannot be motionless. And yet it is most true that reason could not exist nor come into being without uniformity and permanence, which imply a principle of rest in the object of reason. Being therefore has both Motion and Rest. But Being is neither Motion nor Rest. We are in the position of the dualists whom we compelled to admit a third principle. Motion and Rest are opposites, yet both exist. Being therefore comprehends both, . and is different from both, and though essentially partaking both of motion and rest, in its own nature neither rests nor moves. In solving this apparent contradiction, we stumble on the solution of the original problem of the reconciliation of Being and Not-Being. As we endeavour to harmonize the dis- cords which have arisen within the sphere of Being, we are led to modify our notion of the mutual exclusiveness of Being and that which had been hitherto regarded as the opposite of Being. | Ixxiv INTRODUCTION Before proceeding with the argument, we may glance at one or two points in the interesting passage which has just been analyzed. (Soph. 246-250.) Under the titles of the Earth-born and the Friends of Ideas does Plato allude to any particular schools, and, if so, to which of those existing round him ? It is difficult to bring either description into exact harmony with the tenets of any single school. The γηγενεῖς would at first sight appear to be the same who are mentioned in the Theztetus as “stubborn and repellent” men, but are there emphatically, though somewhat ironically, distinguished from the “disciples of Protagoras:” whereas here the ἀλήθεια of Protagoras appears to be brought under the general censure. It may be remarked, however, that there is a distinction amongst the γηγενεῖς also, for some are viewed as more hope- lessly irreclaimable than the rest (ot αὐτῶν σπαρτοί τε καὶ αὐτό- x9oves). According to this view, Antisthenes may possibly be included, but the whole description and the line of argument pursued point rather in the direction of a physical school. The moral maxims of Democritus, when taken in connexion with his general principle, might lay his followers open to the criticism here employed. But on the other hand, his analysis of the senses makes it improbable that he is alone intended. It remains, therefore, most probable that Plato has here idealized, if such a paradox may be allowed, the materialistic tendency in contemporary thought. In the other description, of the friends of motionless forms, there are some marks which answer to the Pythagoreans, and others which point rather in the direc- tion of Megara. That the Pythagoreans, whose ἀκίνητοι οὐσίαι are very similarly criticized by Aristotle, are intended here, is an opinion which Proclus? takes for granted, and which has been recently advanced, quite independently as it would seem, by a French critic, M. Mallet. That the Megarians are meant, has been the common belief, since this was somewhat doubt- fully asserted by Schleiermacher. The Pythagoreans certainly p Comment. in Parmen. p.149 ed. σοφούς. A comparison of Parmenides, Pont.: ἦν μὲν γὰρ καὶ mapa τοῖς Πυ- Philolaus, and Empedocles shews that θαγορείοις ἣ περὶ τῶν εἰδῶν θεωρία καὶ the Hleatic and Pythagorean specula- δηλοῖ καὶ αὐτὸς ἐν Σοφιστῇ τῶν εἰδῶν tions were kindred in their origin. φίλους προσαγορεύων τοὺς ἐν ᾿Ιταλίᾳ TO THE SOPHIST. Ixxv believed in purely immaterial forms, and the absence of an efficient cause to aid the formal was their weak point. But there is no evidence that they brought a subtle dialectic to bear on the resolution of phenomena. This trait (κατὰ σμικρὰ διαθραύοντες ἐν τοῖς λόγοις) belongs rather to the Megarians: and so does the sharp opposition between the flux of Becoming and the permanence of Being. This is an Eleatic feature. But then although we know that Euclides said that the good was “one called by many names,” his reaction towards Hleaticism would probably, though not certainly, incline him to lay the emphasis on “one” rather than on “ many,’ and we have no evidence (this passage apart) that he admitted a real diversity of forms. This is one of Socher’s grounds for supposing that the “‘Sophist” was written by a Megarian and directed against Plato, whose theory of ideas he imagines to be here directly impugned. We have seen that however much some of Plato’s statements (e. g. Crat. 440) may seem to countenance the doc- trine here criticized, such was not his final theory of know- ledge and being. But the hypothesis of Ueberweg and of Mr. Grote, that Plato is here examining a view which he at one time held, is well worth considering. We shall only make a slight modification of this hypothesis in expressing our own opinion that Plato at a late period of his course directs this argument against those amongst his disciples in the Academy who, resting in their imperfect realization of an earlier phase of his own teaching and revert- ing to Pythagorean and Eleatic elements, held the doctrine of ideas in the form in which it is often controverted by Aristotle. That Aristotle should not have observed this divergence be- tween the master and the school may be inexplicable, but not more so than his silence about the Parmenides. On this supposition, the avowal of familiar acquaintance with the men (ἐγὼ δὲ tows διὰ συνήθειαν) is not made by the Eleatic Stranger, but by Plato himself, whose close relation to the persons indi- cated accounts for a peculiar gentleness of tone (6. ο. ἡμερώτεροι yap); and the plurality of ideas, their immobility, and the wide culf between Being and the changing world, are tenets which we clearly know to have been held together by one and the same school. This interrogation of the philosophers is one of the earliest 12 Ixxvi INTRODUCTION chapters in the eritical history of philosophy: and approaches to the manner in which Anaxagoras and Empedocles are handled by Aristotle, when he endeavours to penetrate to their meaning or inmost tendency through the haze of their lan- guage. There is a similar effort made in the Thestetus, in the development of the theory of sense, where Heraclitus and Protagoras are shewn to meet in an unconscious harmony, and the same appears in the allusion to Parmenides and the twofold difficulty of understanding his expressions and his thought (μὴ οὔτε τὰ λεγόμενα ξυνιῶμεν, τί τε διανοούμενος εἶπε πολὺ πλέον λει- πώμεθα). But the conception of studying philosophical ideas in the light of their history, and almost of the impossibility of studying them in any other way, comes more distinctly into consciousness in this passage than even in Aristotle. There are several points even in these few pages, besides the criticism of the εἴδη, which confirm the hypothesis that the Sophist is a late dialogue. These are chiefly: 1. The identi- fication of the Highest Being with Soul or Mind, which appears with equal distinctness only in the Philebus, Timeeus, and Laws. 2. The abruptness with which this thesis is introduced, not suggested directly by the argument but prompted apparently by a deep emotional impulse. This is in the manner of the Laws. 3. The admission of motion into the intelligible sphere. 4. The close union of the ideas of Being and Becoming, which Plato’s earlier speculations had divorced. This notion is ap- plied in one place to the Eleatic Whole (245 d, τὸ γενόμενον ἀεὶ γέγονεν ὅλον), notwithstanding the fact that Parmenides denied γένεσις altogether; and in another place, in immediate con- nexion with the idea of permanence or stability, it is said that this kind is necessary to the production as well as the existence of mind (249 ¢, ἄνευ τούτων νοῦν καθορᾷς ὄντα ἢ γενόμενον ἄν ;). We return to the argument. The notion of perfect being includes the attributes of motion and rest, yet neither of these is the same with Being: Being differs from both, and, qua Being, neither rests nor is moved. Yet it would seem as if everything must either be at rest or in motion. Now these contradictions may be solved, if we admit the possibility of a relation or intercommunion between different kinds. If Being subsists in its own nature and at the same time partakes in one respect of rest and in another of motion, TO THE SOPHIST. Ixxvil this perplexity is removed, ‘The same question of the correla- tion of ideas or kinds is raised by the simplest instance of pre- dication. Every proposition implies a relation between things which are not identical. Even this process has been pro- nounced impossible by some, who hold that you cannot say “Man is Good,’ but only “Man is Man” and “Good is Good.” Not to pass over any class of thinkers, however ex- travagant, we address these belated scholars in common with the rest with the following question. Are all ideas totally disparate, as these say, or do all admit of indiscriminate inter- mixture, or do some enter into relations with each other while others do not? If there is no “communion of ideas,” (1) motion and rest cannot exist, for neither can partake of Being; and the phi- losophy of motion and that of rest are equally undone: and so (2) are the philosophies which rest on the union of one and many, whether these are viewed as alternating or as being always combined, and whether unity or a plurality of elements be made the starting-point. But still more sorry (3) is the plight of the opponents of predication themselves. For they cannot move a step in their own argument without the combi- nation of ideas. Again, if there is to be commixture of all ideas, motion could be predicated of rest, and rest of motion. It remains that some ideas admit of union and others do not. Just as some letters can be combined in syllables and others cannot. And it may be that as the vowels are present in all syllables, so there may be a select few amongst the ideas whose presence is necessary to every combination. But as a science is necessary to determine what combina- tions of letters make syllables, and again another science to distinguish the proper combinations of musical sounds, so a science, namely that of dialectic, is necessary in order to determine the true relations of ideas. The dialectician sees one form traversing a multitude of scattered objects, and several forms embraced in a higher generality: he sees many such wholes bound together in one universal notion, and algo many that are wholly sundered from one another. In looking for the Sophist, we have unexpectedly stumbled on the philosopher, and we shall know where to look for him Ixxvill INTRODUCTION when it is his turn to be defined. The Sophist hides in the dark cave of Not-Being, wherein he feels his way by the trick of use. We lose the philosopher, “as we lose the lark in heaven,” in an abyss of light, where he clings, by the effort of pure reason, to the form of Being. Plato does not expressly notice, what his argument however implies, that the word “Being” is here used in a new sense. The “ Being” here spoken of is clearly the object of philosophy, that is of dialectic: and the function of dialectic is to determine which kinds harmonize and which are mutually exclusive. Hence “ Being” can be nothing else than the sum or principle of true determinations, whether positive or negative. But “Being” was previously reckoned, and is again reckoned (inf. 254 d), with rest and motion as one of the several kinds amongst which the determinations are made. The first notion of Being in the Abstract, on which the Eleatice doctrine was founded, remains side by side with that of Truth, as consisting in the real agreement and disagreement of ideas. The latter seems to be expressed by the word ὄν in the present passage, which contains the answer to the question raised in p. 250 a, viz. what common quality of opposites is expressed by saying that they both exist. Their common quality is (according to this) that each is really predicable of some other thing. This is almost but not quite expressed inf. 258 Ὁ, ἡ τῆς θατέρου--- οὐσία ἐστίν. But to proceed. As it is admitted that communion exists to a greater or less extent amongst different kinds, some for- bidding communion, while some may hold communion with all; we proceed to apply the dialectic method which is now come into view to the three chiefest kinds, which have been already before us: Being, Motion, Rest. The two latter, as was said above, have no communion: while Being communes with them both. Each of these three is other than the remaining two, but the same with itself. Thus emerge two fresh and distinct kinds, or categories, holding communion with the three already mentioned, but different from them all, the categories of Same and Other. They are certainly both distinct from Rest and from Motion, for if either of these were identical with that in which both participate, they would be obliged to participate — in each other, which we have seen to be in the highest degree TO THE SOPHIST. Ixxix impossible. Nor can Sameness be identified with Being, else in asserting that motion and rest exist, we should assert that they were both the same. Thus are made out four distinct kinds: motion, rest, being, same. The form of Other alone remains. Is this a fifth kind, or are Being and Otherness two names for the same thing? They are distinct, for this reason, that every Other is always relative to an Other, whereas Beings are sometimes thought of in themselves and sometimes in rela- tion. (Aristotle’s category of Relation is here incidentally anticipated.) The form of Otherness is therefore a fifth kind; and, to- gether with that of Sameness, it 15 found in combination with everything, like the vowels in the illustration from letters. (These two in fact are the positive and negative aspects, which are indissolubly connected in the notion of Being, as defined above.) In applying this discovery we find that Otherness is more simply expressed by the word “not.” Motion is quite other than Rest; 1. 6. is not Rest :—is other than Sameness; i. e. is not Sameness. Yet Motion 7s, i. 6. exists: and is the same with itself through participation in Sameness. In these different senses or relations, Motion is and is not the same: partaking of Sameness in relation to itself and of Otherness (expressed by the word not”) in relation to sameness. So if motion- could partake of rest, it might be said, ‘“ Motion is at rest and is not Rest.” And it is certainly true that Motion being other than the Other, i.e. partaking of Otherness in relation to the Other, in the same phrase both is and is not Other. Thus Motion is distinct from three of the four kinds, partaking of the Other in relation to each: and it is also distinct from, and partakes of the Other in relation to, Being. But Motion also partakes of Being, and thus both is and is not Being. Now this applies equally to every kind. All partake of Being, for they all exist, but each is distinguished from the abstract, or universal, notion of Bemg. They are and are not, are existent but are not existence. Being and Not-Being are equally predicable of every form. And, if this result is turned the other way,—the form of Being is distinguished from (partakes of Other in relation to) all other forms. Being 18 in Ixxx INTRODUCTION itself once for all, but ¢s-not times imfinite, viz. in comparison with everything which partakes of being. It appears then that Non-Being includes everything except the abstract idea of Being; and that the word not expresses only otherness or difference, and not necessarily contrariety. The not-greater is not necessarily smaller. Now every posi- tive conception has a corresponding negative, which is not necessarily opposite but only different, and includes a really existing kind. Thus the not-beautiful is a kind by itself. The word “not” distinguishes between positive existences; and the Other has as many branches as science has. Tt follows that negative determinations have as much objec- tive reality as the positive ones which are summed up in Being 4: and they signify when taken severally, not the con- tradictory of the corresponding affirmatives, but only some- thing not identical with them. Now the sum of these nega- tions, or of their objects, is no other than the non-existent or unreal, after which the Sophist led us such a dance. We have not only established against Parmenides that this Non-Being has a real existence, but we have also laid bare the nature of it as the sum of negations, or of all which falls on the left-hand side in the distinctions of science. (Plato here notes a change in the meaning of μὴ ὄν similar to that above noticed in the meaning of ὄν. The merely ab- stract notion of Nothing seems at first sight contradictory to the merely abstract notion of Being. But when Being is re- cognized as the complex object of the determinations of thought, Not-Being becomes the negative side or aspect of those deter- minations, and is thus a part of being. Moreover every such negative expression, from the nature of the case, since nega- tion is difference and difference always implies relation (70 ἕτερον ἀεὶ πρὸς ἕτερον), has a positive content.) Further, while we have shewn the existence of non-being, we have proved that Being in innumerable relations is not, i.e. 15 different from, or other than, every existing kind. Being and difference (or positive and negative Being") are two categories (to use a convenient term of later growth) which a ‘ Being” is here used with a third r The ideas of ταὐτὸν and ὄν seem variety of meaning=the sum of posi- to run together again, though distin- tive determinations. guished for the sake of argument above. TO THE SOPHIST. Ixxx1 traverse all things—even each other, since the Other exists, and Being is other than the remaining kinds, which partake of Being, and of the Other in relation to each other and to the form of Being. Here is a nut for the Eristic philosophers to crack. They may exhibit contradictions till they are weary, but until they can refute the preceding argument, they will labour in vain, The dialectician’s is a far nobler task, to follow every argument having respect to the relation in which things are compared or distinguished. ΤῸ insist without this on the contradiction of sameness and difference is mere childishness, as has now been shewn. We have swept the ground from under the feet of the analytical and controversial gentry, by abolishing the absoluteness of distinctions: which indeed was necessary if argument, or even language, is to be maintained at all. For, as has been already shewn in answer to Antisthenes, the nature of proposition rests on the combination of different forms. But if language were done away, all our toil would have left us where we were, so far as the Sophist is concerned. For falsity can only be found in propositions, either spoken or silent. Opinion is silent proposition. There still remains, therefore, a new problem, after it has been decided that there is a communion amongst several kinds, _and that Non-Being is one of these; viz. Is there communion between Non-Being and the proposition? Does that which is other than being enter into language? We must answer this before we can tell whether the Sophist is to be accused of falsehood, and, if the answer is in the negative, we must begin the whole inquiry afresh. Theeetetus is cast down by the apparition of this new difii- culty : but is encouraged to proceed. “ Faint heart never took a city. Some progress has been made, and that is more than we at one time expected. And after all not much remains.” | Speech is then defined as the combination not of nouns with nouns or verbs with verbs, but of nouns and verbs (which are also defined)—just as vowels and consonants were seen to be combined in syllables. It is shewn also that every proposition has a subject and is of a certain quality; by which is meant, not the formal m Ixxxil INTRODUCTION difference of affirmative or negative, but the material difference of truth or falsity. The false proposition attaches to its subject a predicate, which has a meaning indeed, but a meaning other than that which consists with fact (ὄντων----ὄντα ἕτερα, Soph. 263 b); a meaning, therefore, which is the proper object of a negative determi- nation in thought. False speech is the affirmation of this other predicate, which means, not nothing, but a wrong something. (It is of course implied that false negation is the wrong affirma- tion of non-being.) Now thought is a silent dialogue of the mind with herself (cf. Thezet. 189 6): opinion is the positive or negative determination of thought: and imagination is opinion in contact with sense. Hence whatever is essentially true of speech, is also true of thought, opinion and the intellectual element in sensation. False opinion is therefore conceivable and possible. And the phantastic art, in which we placed the Sophist, has more than a chimerical existence. The existence of the said “kind” being vindicated, the division of kinds is resumed from p. 236 ὁ in the manner already indicated, and the dialogue “ grows to a point.” In closing this long introduction, it is still necessary, for the sake of clearness, to make a few remarks on the discussion of which an analysis has been here presented to the reader. 1. The last step in the argument will be more intelligible when put into modern language. It has been shewn that Non-Being is merely the object of negative determination: the form of Difference, coming in be- tween two positive conceptions. Before the existence of false- hood can be established, the question remains, Are thought and speech themselves ever the proper objects of negative determination? Can a proposition as well as a term be denied ? Does the Form of Difference enter into thought as the object of thought, so as to divide the real (ὄν in the sense of Truth) from the unreal (μὴ ¢év=that which is other than the Truth) which still has a certain reality as being really distinguished from the real? Plato answers this question, as he answers the question in the Theztetus, ‘Is true opinion knowledge?” by an appeal to fact. The proposition, “ Thezetetus, with whom I — now converse, is flying,” is manifestly the legitimate object of — TO THE SOPHIST. Ixxxiil denial. And thus the existence of falsehood, and of a denial of falsehood, as well as that of simple negation, is established. It may be asked, why sensation takes the place of dialectic at this stage? Might not the Sophist, who can shut his eyes at pleasure, profess ignorance, until convinced by rational proof, whether Theztetus is sitting or flying? The answer is, first, that it was immaterial to the proof whether the fact appealed to were one of sensible experience or otherwise. Any propo- sition which the mind of the particular hearer instinctively rejected would have served the purpose equally well. ’ὔ / ‘ / \ / ΕΣ ᾿, 4 αὐτοί TE κοσμίως καὶ τόνδε τινὰ ξένον AYOMEV, TO μεν γ. 216. gentleman looked on those who followed any trade. Cf. also Lach. 197 d= mperes .. 2% ° . σοφιστῇ μᾶλλον τὰ τοιαῦτα κομψεύεσθαι ἢ ἀνδρὶ κ. τ. λ. The “ Sophists” in Plato’s time were already commonly viewed as a separate class. Cf. Tim. 19 e, Rep. 6, 492 a. Plato— who, as we learn from Plutarch in his life of Dion, was himself called Sophist by the courtiers of Syracuse (cf. Polit. 299 ¢, where the true philosopher is called by the vulgar ἀδολέσχην τινὰ σοφιστὴν, and inf. 216 6: τοτὲ δὲ copprrai)—endeavours in this and the following dialogue to limit the application of the term, with the odium belong- ing to it, to that false or pre- tended wisdom which he desires to distinguish from the true— to the professors of knowledge who “had their reward” a- mongst his contemporaries. And the termination, -ἰστής, which might imply affectation or pretension, was conducive to this purpose. In a similar spirit the meaning of the word διαλεκτικός was modified by Aristotle. The necessity of defining the Sophist is asserted by Socrates in Protag. 313 6. P. 1, 3. ΣΩΚΡΑΤΗΣ] Here, as in the Parmenides and Timzeus, Socrates introduces but does not conduct the conversation (Tim. 17 Ὁ: TI. οὐδὲ yap ἂν εἴη δίκαιον, χθὲς ὑπὸ σοῦ Een- σθέντας οἷς ἦν πρέπον ἕενίοις, μὴ οὐ προθύμως σὲ τοὺς λοιποὺς ἡμῶν ἀντεφεστιᾷν. Ib. 26 6: 59. χρὴ λέγειν μὲν ὑμᾶς, ἐμὲ δὲ ἀντὶ τῶν χθὲς λόγων ἡσυχίαν ἄγειν). But although the person of Socrates is in the background, the So- cratic spirit of inquiry still reigns in this and: the follow- ing dialogue. There are at least four points in which this intellectual (as distinguished from the personal) influence of Socrates may still be traced, 1. The use of trivial and gro- tesque examples to illustrate general truths (see Xen. Memo- rabilia I. 2. § 23, and compare the words of Callicles in the Gorgias, 491 ἃ : del σκυτέας τε καὶ κναφέας καὶ μαγείρους λέγων καὶ ἰατροὺς οὐδὲν παύει), and the elevation of this practice into a principle of scientific method. The angler has a definition no less than the highest artist. Philosophical elassification re- spects not persons, but views the military commander and the destroyer of vermin as equally deserving a place in the category of huntsmen. The Sophist is a salesman, a magi- clan, a sportsman, ἃ scene- painter. The image of the “herdsman” (compare Xen. Mem. 1, c.), used satirically in the Theetetus (p. 174 4) and in Rep. 1, and with a more serious meaning in the Laws (4, 713 Ὁ, 6), appears again in the Politicus, at first in the hu- morous but afterwards in the deeper signification. In the same dialogue an elaborate pa- rallel is drawn between the statesman and the weayer, and this leads to a vindication of the argument from Example. Here also the Socratic mode of teaching by instances (coin- ciding with the Pythagorean parable) is not only imitated } ΣΟΦΙΣΤΗΣ. 3 p. 216. γένος ἐξ ’EAeas, ἑταῖρον but is made the object of re- flection and study. 2. The con- viction, which appears chiefly in the Politicus, that all prac- tical wisdom may be resolved into pure knowledge, and that this master-science is one only, and stands in close relation to all others. 3. The destructive, cross-questioning method of Socrates is characterised as a purgation of the soul (καθαρμός, a Pythagorean word) from the vapours and obstructions of conceit. It is this true puri- fication of the mind, the in- alienable privilege of the phi- losopher, of which the mere controversial art of the So- phist is a false mimicry. In this, however, there is also a reference to the negative dialec- tic of Zeno. 4. The irony of this dialogue (and still more of the Politicus) while truly Platonic accords well with the charac- ter of the Platonic Socrates. The position assigned to the Sophist, not in the first, nor in the second, nor in the third portion of imitative art; and the discovery of the politicians of Greece far down amongst the class of servants, are instances of this: also the ludicrous de- scription of a state in which navigation and medicine should be regulated by law, of which there is perhaps a germ in the question of Socrates, Would they choose a pilot, or a car- -penter, or a flute-player by lot? In these and other pas- sages there is revived, with an increase of bitterness which is Plato’s own, the “ pro- voking irony and strange in- B δὲ τῶν ἀμφὶ ἸΤαρμενίδην sight into the world,” which is one of the most marked fea- tures of the Platonic, as it was probably of the real, Socrates. P.1,4. Kara τὴν χθὲς ὁμολογίαν] Theet. 210 ὁ. Socrates is already at the place of meet- ing: according to the Thee- tetus a paleestra, possibly the Lyceum, or the school of Tau- reas. There is, however, no reference to the scene of the conversation, either in this dia- logue or the next. ἥκομεν αὐτοί τε καὶ ἄγομεν] Rep. 4,427 d: σκόπει---οαὐτός τε καὶ τὸν ἀδελφὸν παρακάλει. also Xen. Anab. 111.1, ὃ 44. The expression is modified by a re- turn to the indicative mood, as the sentence grows under the author’s hand. P. 2,1. κοσμίως) “ Like well- behaved people.” ‘“ As in duty bound.” τ. ἑταῖρον ---- [ἑταίρων ἢ] Se- veral MSS. have ἕτερον in the first place. (Ficinus, longé vero alterum ac dissimilem a Par- menide et Zenone suis equa- libus.) But the Stranger afterwards identifies himself with the followers of Parme- nides, though he is not a ser- vile follower, and Socrates in this place alludes to the ἔλεγ- xos of Zeno. The corrup- tion may be due to some one who thought the criticism of Parmenides in the sequel incon- sistent with the words as they stood. The passage is thrice quoted by Proclus; Comment. in Parmen. p. 42: ᾿Αλλὰ καὶ ὁ "EXedtns σοφὸς καὶ τῶν περὶ τὸν Παρμενίδην καὶ Ζήνωνα ἑταίρων av- τὸς ὧν. Ib. Ρ». 72: καὶ γὰρ ἐκεῖνον 9) = Ch paliestra, and bring with them an Eleatic friend, whom Theodorus introduces as a true philoso- pher. Socrates is awe-struck. “What if he be some God in dis- guise, who, as poets t MAATQNO® καὶ Ζήνωνα {Ὁ ἑταίρων Ὁ. σοῴον. μάλα δὲ YQ. ἾΑρ᾽ οὖν, ὦ Θεύδωρε, οὐ ξένον ἀλλά τινα θεὸν ἄγων κατὰ τὸν Ὅμήρου λόγον λέληθας ; ὅς ὔ Ν vad > c / / sdnow addovs τε θεοὺς τοῖς ἀνθρώποις, ὁπόσοι μετέ- οὕτω προσείρηκεν, τῶν ἀμφὶ Il. καὶ Ζ. μάλα δὲ ἄνδρα φιλόσοφον. Ib. p. 83: τούτων ὑπάρχων. ἑταίρων is pro- bably a gloss on τῶν. (Βοά!]. τόν.) The word is transposed in one MS. (A), which gives ἑταίρων καὶ ζήνωνα. It is doubtful whether τῶν 18. a partitive genitive or governed by éraipov :—‘ A com- panion of the number of those” or “a companion of those.” The former is more idiomatic, gives a better emphasis to ἑταῖ- pov, and is on the whole more consistent with the quotations of Proclus. For the use of the word ἑταῖρος, cf. Thext. 180 ¢: ov yap σοι ἑταῖροί εἰσιν. “ This stranger is of Eleatic race, an adherent of the school of Par- menides and Zeno, and he is a true philosopher.” ἑταῖρον ἑταῖρος 1. μάλα δὲ ἄνδρα φιλόσοφον] Cf. Parm. 126 b: οἵδε----πολῖ- ταί poi εἰσι, μάλα φιλόσοφοι. For the conjunction of the adverb and noun, cf. Legg. 1, 639 b: ἄλλά τινων σφόδρα γυναικῶν. 3. οὐ ξένον ἀλλά τινα θεὸν The auswer of Theodorus, οὐχ οὗτος ὁ Tp. τ. &, shews that these words of Socrates express an ironical fear lest the stranger should bring the Zenonian negative dialectic to bear on his own (1. 6. Plato’s) mode of reasoning. Compare Euthyd. 273 6: εἰ δὲ viv ἀλη- θῶς ταύτην τὴν ἐπιστήμην ἔχε- τον, ἵλεῳ εἴητον. ἀτεχνῶς γὰρ ἔγωγε σφὼ ὥσπερ θεὼ προσαγο- ρεύω. 4. λέληθας] Se. σαυτόν. Thezt. 180 6. 5. ἄλλους τε θεοὺς] Odyss. P. 483-7: Cf. ‘Avtivo’, ov μὲν Kad’ ἔβαλες δύστηνον ἀλήτην, > ‘ > > , i > ΄ , > οὐλόμεν᾽, εἰ δή πού τις ἐπουράνιος θεός ἐστιν. καί τε θεοὶ ξείνοισιν ἐοικότες ἀλλοδαποῖσιν, παντοῖοι τελέθοντες, ἐπιστρωφῶσι πόληας, > / “ A > ΄ > ΄ ἀνθρώπων ὕβριν τε καὶ εὐνομίην ἐφορῶντες. ΠΡ ΤΣ ΟΣ Ἢ: A Wy , c , , Ζεὺς δ᾽ ἐπιτιμήτωρ ἱκετάων τε ξείνων Te, , ἃ , J 3 5 , > “ ξείνιος, ὃς ξείνοισιν ἅμ᾽ αἰδοίοισιν ὀπηδεῖ. Both these passages are present to the speaker’s mind, but the second less distinctly than the first: for ξείνοισιν is dropped, and αἰδοίοισιν taken actively, = respectful or merciful. The substitution of θεὸς for Ζεὺς, the general for the individual, belongs to the later phase of xs Greek religion. Bodl. ἀλλήλους: but the correction is not by the first hand. Cf. Legg. 5, 730 a: ὁ ξένιος ἑκάστων δαίμων καὶ θεὸς τῷ ξενίῳ Ib. π 2; 953 ©: τιμῶντες Eeviov Δία. " she συνεπόμενοι Att. ἄλλους τε θεοὺς τοῖς ἀνθρώποις] The apodosis of these words is ἄνδρα φιλό- p. 216. |: b ΣΟΦΙΣΤΗΣ. 5 , ΄σ 7 Ν Ν Ν ‘ / > 5.216. youow αἰδοῦς δικαίας. καὶ δὴ καὶ τὸν ἕένιον ov : ’ ἢ Xx (en) oS Ν Ν , -“ Ν ἥκιστα θεὸν συνοπαδὸν γιγνόμενον ὕβρεις τε καὶ > 7 - > / o 25 53 a Ν εὐυνομιὰᾶὰς Τῶν ἀνθρώπων καθορᾷν. TAX OUV GY και , - a , / / σοί τις οὗτος τῶν κρειττόνων συνέποιτο, φαύλους « ΄ + ’ oO / > , ΄ Ν 5 / ἡμᾶς ὄντας ἐν τοῖς λόγοις ἐποψόμενὸος τε Kal ἐλέγξων, 5 Ν 7 , θεὸς wv τις ἐλεγκτικὸς. OEO. Οὐχ οὗτος ὁ τρόπος, ὦ Σώκρατες, τοῦ ξένου, » Ν ΤᾺ a Ν \ 54 3 , ἀλλὰ μετριώτερος τῶν περὶ τὰς ἔριδας ἐσπουδακότων. , a \ \ eX 5 ΡΞ 53 = ΝΣ Kal μοι δοκεῖ θεὸς μὲν ἀνὴρ οὐδαμῶς εἶναι, θεῖος μὴν ΄ \ SS \ / , πάντας yap ἐγὼ τοὺς φιλοσόφους τοιούτους προσα- γορεύω. absorbed in συνοπαδὸν γιγνό- μενον. I. ὁπόσοι--- δικαίας] Said in compliment to Theodorus, who, in reward for his modest and candid temper (see the Thezete- tus), may unawares be enter- taining a superior being. Com- pare the combination of αἰδὼς with δίκη in the Protagoras (322 ¢), and in Hesiod. 4. τῶν κρειττόνων] “ Some higher power,” i.e. a God or Hero, ef. Lege. 4,718 a: mapa θεῶν καὶ ὅσοι κρείττονες ἡμῶν. Kuthyd. 291 a: μὴ τις τῶν κρειττόνων παρὼν αὐτὰ ἐφθέγξατο; Ep. 7, 326 6: ἔοικε μήν τινι τῶν κρειττόνων ἀρχὴν βαλέσθαι τῶν νῦν γεγονότων πραγμάτων. Compare Aesch. Prom. 905: μηδὲ κρεισ- covey [θεῶν] ἔρως ἄφυκτον ὄμμα προσδράκοι με. 5. ἐποψόμενος] Referring to ἐφορῶντες in the line of Homer. 7. Οὐχ οὗτος ὁ τρόπος -- τοῦ ξένουΠ͵ Cf. Theet. 145 6: οὐχ οὗτος ὁ τρόπος Θεοδώρου. 8. μετριώτερος] “ More rea- sonable.” Cf. Theat. 161 Ὁ: ἀποδέξασθαι μετρίως. τῶν περὶ τὰς ἔριδας ἐσπουδα- κότων] Cf. Isocrates Soph. 20: τῶν περὶ Tas ἔριδας καλινδουμένων. And for ἐσπουδακότων inf, p. 259 b, α : εἴτε ---χαίρει---τοὺς λόγους ἕλκων, οὐκ ἄξια πολλῆς σπουδῆς ἐσπούδακε. The Stranger is re- presented as not contentious, that the reader may be pre- pared for the modification of the Eleatic doctrine in what follows, and for the general scope of the dialogue, which tends to deprecate the arts of controversy. 9. ἁνήρ] In this and similar places the MSS. persistently give ἀνήρ. This is equally the case in tragedy (6. g. Soph. Aj. g: ἔνδον yap ἀνήρ), where the quantity proves the presence of the article. θεῖο Cf. Rep. 1, 331 e: σοφὸς γὰρ καὶ θεῖος ἀνήρ (ὁ Σι- μωνίδης). Phileb. 18 b: εἴτε τις θεὸς εἴτε καὶ θεῖος ἄνθρωπος. In Legg. 1, 626 ο, the address ὦ θεῖε occurs — characteristically —in the mouth of the Spartan. 10. τοιούτους] Se. θείους. Cf. Theet. 154 e, Phed. 67 a. have sung, accompa~ nies the good man’s going, and comes to expose the nothing- ness of Athenian wisdom 2” THEO. “He is not con- tentious, as some are: and certainly 10 no God, though I must call him, as I do all pLi- losophers, divine.” ΠΟΘΙ ΑΔ πὰ the divine philoso- pher is also rarely dis- cerned, and often walks disguised through the igno- rance of other men, whose life he watches fromabove, appearing to them 6 MAATQNO2 Ὁ “ 9 , ΄ ΄, , TQ. Καλῶς ye, ὦ φίλε. τοῦτο μέντοι κινδυνεύει p. 216.) Ν , > , en « ” > ΄σ 3 τὸ γένος οὐ πολὺ TL ρᾷον, WS ἔπος εἰπεῖν, εἰναι δια- , RY ‘ = an κρίνειν ἢ τὸ τοῦ θεοῦ" ΄ \ " e πάνυ yap ἄνδρες οὗτοι a el ἈΝ Ν ΄“΄ 32,7 » παντοῖοι φανταζόμενοι διὰ τὴν τῶν ἄλλων ἀγνοιαν δἐπιστρωφῶσι πόληας, οἱ μὴ πλαστῶς ἀλλ᾽ ὄντως φιλόσοφοι, καθορῶντες ὑψόθεν τὸν τῶν κάτω βίον, “ Ν fa) by a Ν , ΕΣ καὶ τοῖς μὲν δοκοῦσιν εἰναι τοῦ μηδενὸς τίμιοι, τοῖς I. τοῦτο μέντοι τὸ yevos] The more remote purpose of the dia- logue appears in these words, The definition of the Sophist is preparatory to that of the philosopher. 3. τὸ Tod θεοῦ] Note the sin- cular case with the article, ex- pressing a generalized concep- tion—as In τοῦ ἀνθρώπου : Thu- cyd. 1, 140. πάνυ] “ certainly ;” almost = ἀτεχνῶς, referring to the words of Homer. Compare the use of πάνυ ye, πάνυ μὲν οὖν in re- plies. 4. παντοῖοι φανταζόμενοι) φαν- zat. is substituted for τελέθοντες because the philosophers do not really change, but appear in various disguises through the ignorance of men. Compare Rep. 2, 381-2, where there is a reference to the same pas- sage of Homer. See also Timeeus 41 a, where the tradi- tionary deities are spoken of in contradistinction to the hea- venly bodies as ὅσοι φαίνονται καθ᾽ ὅσον ἂν ἐθέλωσι θεοί. 5. οἱ μὴ πλαστῶς ἀλλ᾽ ὄντως φιλόσοφοι] “The real, not the would-be philosophers.” ΟἿ Theet. 173 ¢: Aéyopev—repi τῶν κορυφαίων, Ti γὰρ ἄν τις τούς γε φαύλως διατρίβοντας ἐν φιλο- σοφίᾳ λέγοι. And see the de- ? scription of the “ little bald blacksmith” in Rep. 6, 495 e. For πλαστῶς, cf. Legg. 1, 642 d: ἀληθῶς καὶ οὔ τι πλαστῶς εἰσὶν Tb: 6, γ7ὴ ἃ. 6. καθορῶντες] Echoing καθο- ρᾷν supr., but with the addi- tional meaning of “ down- wards.” For καθ. ὑψόθεν τὸν τῶν κάτω βίον, see the digression in the Theetetus 173 Ὁ, 175 c,d. Also Rep..B: ἢ: 7. τοῖς μὲν δοκοῦσιν---μανικῶς] “The true philosopher appears to some men nothing worth : to others, worth all the world: now he presents the semblance of a statesman, now of a public teacher: and, again, he may give to some men the impres- sion that he is clean mad.” The philosophic spirit is a treasure whose value is un- known: a pearl of great price, for which he who has found it will sell all that he has : appearing now in the practical, now in the specula- tive sphere: in both apt to be confounded with lower types of wisdom by ordinary men, who, when they begin to see the real issues towards which the spirit leads, will brand it with the name of foolishness or madness. For τοῦ παντὸς, cf. Pheedr. 235 6. The article is ἀγαθοί. ΣΟΦΙΣΤῊΣ. vi δι 197; a / Ν \ \ Ν ’, p. 216. δ᾽ ἄξιοι τοῦ παντός" καὶ τοτὲ μὲν πολιτικοὶ φαντά- ἃ Covrat, τοτὲ δὲ σοφισταί. τοτὲ δ᾽ ἔστιν οἷς δοξαν 3 2 Ὁ p- 217. , > A - / y lal παρασχόοιντ αν WS TWAVTATTACOLV EXOVTES μανικῶς. a ΄ὔ / (re e / x / , του [LEVTOL &€vov ἡμῖν ἡδέως ἂν πυνθανοίμην, εἰ / > “ / apy? ε Ν N > vad / ¢ a φίλον AUTO, τι ταῦθ᾽ οἱ περὶ τὸν ἐκεῖ τόπον ἡγοῦντο 5 t Ἄν .,.9 ΄ KQL ὠνόμαζον. ΘΕΌ. Τὰ ποῖα dn; LQ. Σοφιστήν, πολιτικόν, φιλόσοφον. ΄ Ss -/ ΄- GEO. Τί δὲ μάλιστα καὶ τὸ ποῖόν τι περὶ αὐτῶν διαπορηθεὶς ἐρέσθαι διενοήθης ; here partly suggested by τοῦ μηδενός, which hardly needs illustration. I. τοτὲ μὲν --- τοτὲ δὲ] Bodl. Ῥ. Mm. τότε μὲν----τότε δὲ. πολιτικοί] Τὰ. ο. Epimenides, Solon, Pythagoras. 2. σοφισταί] As Socrates in the‘Clouds, or Plato at Syracuse. The word is used here with- out any invidious association, like πολιτικοί, merely denoting a recognized class. The variation of language in τίμιοι ---ἄξιοι 15 in keeping with the studied refinement of this dialogue. 3. παντάπασιν ἔχοντες μανικῶς] Cf. Pheedr. 249 c, d: Ib. e: ai- τίαν ἔχει ὡς μανικῶς διακείμενος : and the words of Alcibiades in the Symposium 218 b: - πάντες yap κεκοινωνήκατε τῆς φι- λοσόφου μανίας τε καὶ βακχείας. Note the emphatic position of μανικῶς. 4. τοῦ μέντοι ξένου] The double μέντοι marks a double transi- tion: from the person of the Stranger to the nature of philo- sophers, and from this to the Stranger again,who is addressed with an inquiry bearing on the subject which has been thus sug- gested. “ The philosopher is apt tobe confounded with the States- man and Sophist, except when he is looked upon as mad. Will the Stranger clear the confusion by defining each of the terms in question ?” ἡμῖν gives a courteous turn to the expression, like μοι after a vocative. εἰ φίλον αὐτῷ! Cf. Theeet. τό Ὁ : ἀλλ᾽ εἰ οὕτως, ὦ Θεόδωρε, σοὶ φίλον, οὐδ᾽ ἐμοὶ ἐχθρόν. infr. 222005) 5. τί ταῦθ᾽ — ὠνόμαζον] “ What his countrymen (in Magna Grecia) thought of these mat- ters, and how they used to apply the terms.” The imper- fect implies the qualification “When he was amongst them.” For the adverbial τί, cf. Pheedr. 2346: τί σοι φαίνεται 6 λόγος ; 9. Ti δὲ μάλιστα ----διενοήθης] The curious formality of this address belongs to Plato’s later style. (See General Introd.) Cf. infr. 226 b: τὸ ποῖον αὐτῶν πέρι βουληθεὶς δηλῶσαι, παραδείγματα προθεὶς ταῦτα κατὰ πάντων ἤρου : 2406: πῇ καὶ τὸ ποῖόν τι φοβού- now as Statesman, now as M Sophist,’ despised, believed in, wondered at as mad. Sophist, Statesman, Philoso- pher :— What has our Italian Io friend to tell us of these things ? Do his country- men ac- count them one, or two, or three ?” The Stran- ger had been al- readyasked this ques- tion on the way. He will shew that each of the three terms denotes a different nature, though to distinguish them is by no means a simple task. oe) ITAATQNO πα / , A ΄ “- ᾽ x 2Q. Τοδε πότερον ἕν πάντα ταῦτα ἐνόμιζον ἢ / δ ΄ ‘ 3. Τῇ ΄ / / δυο, ἢ καθάπερ Ta ὀνόματα τρία, τρία καὶ γένη διαι- / , A » « nd ρούμενοι Kad’ ἕν ὄνομα γένος ἑκάστῳ προσῆπτον ; ΘΕΟ. ᾿Αλλ᾽ οὐδείς, ὡς ἐγῴμαι, φθόνος αὐτῷ διελ- na > 4 “Δ ΄σ΄ 9S /, 5θεῖν αὐτά. Ἢ πῶς, ὦ E€ve, λέγωμεν: EE. Οὕτως, ὦ Θεόδωρε. φθόνος μὲν γὰρ οὐδείς, ) \ Ἂ > “ “ 7» e lal Led οὐδὲ χαλεπὸν εἰπεῖν OTL ye τρί ἡγοῦντο" καθ᾽ ἕκαστον (2. y ῥᾷδιον ἐργον. \ / “ / > 7 > Χ »ῸΝ μὴν διορίσασθαι σαφῶς, τί ποτ᾽ ἐστιν, οὐ σμικρὸν οὐδὲ ΘΕΟ. Καὶ μὲν δὴ κατὰ τύχην γε, ὦ Σώκρατες, / 3 ΄ / © « a λόγων ἐπελάβου παραπλησίων ὧν καὶ πρὶν ἡμᾶς a? Σ la las SEEN > / ε \ δεῦρ᾽ ἐλθεῖν διερωτῶντες αὑτὸν ἐτυγχάνομεν. ὁ O€ > / “ Ν \ a Ων ΄ » | Aes \ ταῦτα, ATEP προς σε νυν, καὶ TOTE ἐσκήπτετο προς ε a > Ν / / ε lal \ 2 ἡμᾶς" ἐπεὶ διακηκοέναι ye φησιν ἱκανῶς καὶ οὐκ 15 ἀμνημονεῖν. ΣΩ. Μὴ τοίνυν, ὦ ξένε, ἡμῶν τήν γε πρώτην μενος οὕτω λέγεις ; Legg.6,752b: περὶ τί βλέπων καὶ ποῖ μάλιστα αὐτὸ εἴρηκας τὰ νῦν; Ib. 4,705 d: εἰς δὴ τί τῶν εἰρημένων βλέψας, εἶπες ὃ λέγεις ; “In regard to what point, and with a view to what difficulty respecting these things, did the question occur to you?” 2. τρία καὶ γένη] The Bodleian MS., as well as ATi, has καὶ γένη, which is manifestly right. ra γένη does not suit with διαιρού- μενοι. They do not divide the classes, but distinguish three. “Did they, as the names are three, distinguish also three kinds, and assign one severally to each name 1 6. pOdvos—eineiv] φθόνος is not to be joined with εἰπεῖν. “ You are right, Theodorus; I have no wish to withhold any- thing.” 7. τρί᾽ ἡγοῦντο] So Bodl. II. Adyov— ὧν diepwravres | For the apposition of the clause to the relative, cf. Thezt. 158 b: τὸ τοιόνδε ἀμφισβήτημα,---ὃ πολ- λάκις σε οἶμαι ἀκηκοέναι ἐρωτών- Compare Tim. 20 d: καὶ ἔτι πρότερον καθ᾽ ὁδὸν αὖ ταῦτα TOV. ἐσκοποῦμεν. = παραπλησίων ὧν] As παρα- πλήσιος is rarely found with the genitive, there is probably here a double attraction: 1. 6. ὧν = ois = τούτοις οὕς. 12. ὁ δὲ ταὐτά] Heindorf’s slight emendation (ταὐτὰ for ταῦτα) seems to be required by the antithesis πρὸς σὲ viv—rére - πρὸς ἡμᾶς. τό. Μὴ--- γένῃ] “ Be not so cruel as to refuse our first boon when we have asked it of you.” -- ) ΣΟΦΙΣΤΗΣ. Wee πότερον εἴωθας ἥδιον αὐτὸς ἐπὶ σαυτοῦ μακρῷ λόγῳ διεξιέναι λέγων τοῦτο, ὃ ἂν ἐνδείξασ-- nr ; , er Gai τῳ βουληθῇς, ἢ St ἐρωτήσεων, οἷον ποτε καὶ Παρμενίδῃ χρωμένῳ καὶ διεξιόντι λόγους παγκάλους 5 / Oe AN / vy ’ / “4 δὴ 7 παρεγενομὴν ἐγὼ νέος ὧν, εκείνου μᾶλα On TOTE ΕΒ / ὄντος πρεσβύτου: lal 7 9 / » ΄ Ν ᾽ [ EE. Τῷ μέν, ὦ Σώκρατες, ἀλύπως τε καὶ εὐηνίως The use of the auxiliary verb (see Gen. Introd.) is a feature of Plato’s later style: and is one of the points in which that style approximates to the lan- guage of tragedy. 2. εἴωθας ἥδιον] commonly prefer ?” 3. μακρῷ λόγῳ διεξιέναι λέγων] There is a slight emphasis on λέγων. ‘Do you prefer to en- large in an extended speech on the subject which you desire to explain, or to discuss the matter (διεξιέναι) by means of questions, a practice which I “Do you remember that Parmenides used — ?” 4. olov — χρωμένῳ] οἷον 15 cognate or adverbial accus., hike ri—nyodvro above. Com- pare Theet. 170 Ὁ : ti— ypn- σόμεθα τῷ λόγῳ, and Lys. 213 ¢: οὖν δὴ χρησώμεθα, where there is an ellipse of the da- tive, τῷ λόγῳ OY τοῖς λόγοις, as here. It seems probable that the Parmenides had been com- posed, or at least planned, when this passage and Theet. 184 a were written. ὃ. Τῷ —ddimas Te Kal vies προσδιαλεγομένῳ] ‘“ With a respondent who gives no trou- ble and is guided easily.” It , τι > €un- must be acknowledged that most of the respondents in Plato’s dialectical dialogues have this virtue. They an- swer in the spirit of the ques- tioner, and accept true reason- ing when it is placed before them. When a sally is per- mitted them, this is obviously done either for the sake of relieving the gravity of the argument, or in order that they may derive instruction from their own mistakes, or thirdly, in one or two rare cases, that they may shew that the highest truths are some- times the intuitions of the simple mind. Docility in the pupil as well as the mens divinior in the teacher is re- quired for the purposes of dia- lectic. This is less obviously the case in the Republic and Pheedo, where Glaucon and Adimantus, Simmias and Cebes, are allowed to propound their difficulties, thus exhibiting an- other aspect of the philosophic spirit. Yet Glaucon claims the merit of being a more facile respondent than some others would be. Rep. 5,474 a: ἴσως ἂν ἄλλου του ἐμμελέστερον ἀπο- κρινοίμην. Cf. Lege.7,797 ἃ. It | le choo ΟΝ to proceed by ques- tions, as Parmeni- des used, and accepts Thezetetus for his re- spondent ; who, when tired, will be relieved by Soera- tes the younger. 10 ΠΛΑΤΏΝΟΣ ͵7 tn “ Ν ‘ ” > \ προσδιαλεγομένῳ paov οὕτω, τὸ πρὸς ἀλλον᾽ εἰ δὲ / Ἂς ᾽ « , μὴ, τὸ καθ᾽ αὑτον. ΣΩ. "E€eore τοίνυν τῶν παρόντων ὃν ἄν βουληθῇς > / A 4 Ν « / / 4 ἐκλέξασθαι: πάντες yap ὑπακούσονταί σοι πράως. / Ν ’ / al / ‘ © / SovpBovA@ μὴν ἐμοὶ χρώμενος τῶν νέων τινὰ αἱρήσει, ͵ / “δ Ν ΄σ ΕΣ ” / Ν Θεαίτητον τόνδε, ἢ καὶ τῶν ἄλλων εἰ τίς σοι κατὰ νοῦν. EE. ᾽Ὦ Σώκρατες, αἰδώς τίς μ᾽ ἔχει τὸ νῦν πρῶτον / « ΄σ 3, Ν 3, συγγενομενον υὑμιν μὴ κατὰ σμικρὸν ἔπος 7 pos ἔπος is curious to observe that the Heracliteans of Ephesus (Theeet. 180) and the extreme mate- rialists (Soph. 246) are de- spaired of in this respect as being incapable of dialectic, rod δοῦναι καὶ δέξασθαι λόγον. For the use of προς in προσδιαλε- γομένῳ, compare ΤΠ Θεοῦ. 162 b, προσπαλαίειν; 1b. 169 ο, προσανα- τριψάμενος ; and for ὑπακούσον- ται πράως, paullo infra, ef. Theeet. 162 a: pan ἐμμελῶς σοι ἐφαίνετο ὑπακούειν. The community of spirit between those convers- ing is also dwelt on in Pheed. 58 d: καὶ μὴν, ὦ Φαίδων, καὶ τοὺς ἀκουσομένους γε τοιούτους ἄλλους ἔχεις. The adj. εὐήνιος occurs with the ethical meaning = obedient, tractable, Legg. 5, 730 b, 9, 880 a. I. τὸ πρὸς ἄλλον ---- τὸ καθ᾽ αὑτόν] Se. διεξιέναι τοὺς λόγους. 4. πράως --οὐ δυσμενῶς οὐδὲ μαχητικῶς, Theet. 168 b. 5. τῶν νέων τινά] As being free from prepossessions and more supple to follow the wind- ings of an argument, cf. Parm. 137 b: 6 νεώτατος ; ἥκιστα yap ἂν πολυπραγμονοῖ, καὶ ἃ οἴεται Theeet. 162 b: μὴ ἕλκειν πρὸς τὸ γυμνά- σιον σκληρὸν ἤδη ὄντα, τῷ δὲ δὴ , > Δ > , μάλιστ αν αποκρινοιτο. νεωτέρῳ καὶ ὑγροτέρῳ ὄντι προσπα- λαίειν. Ib. 146 b. 8. αἰδώς τίς μ᾽ ἔχει] “A sort of modesty comes over me at the thought of continuing our in- terview not colloquially but by spinning a lengthened mono- logue by myself, or even ad- dressing myself to another at length, which would only be a kind of display. For the truth is, that the word you have now given us is not of such easy compass as one might ex- pect on hearing the question, but requires an immense amount of discussion.” τὸ νῦν] The Vatican MS. (Δ) and the Bodleian® and Venetian (ΠῚ) first hand have preserved a reading τὸν νοῦν, which is partly due to the preceding νοῦν, and partly to the intelligibleness of the phrase αἰδώς μ᾽ ἔχει τὸν νοῦν. But πρῶτον could have no mean- ing without νῦν, and the article is required to mark the limita- tion of the preceding clause. 9. ἔπος πρὸς ἔπος] Cf. Ari- ® The Bodleian has τὸν νοῦν, with the omicron erased. ΣΟΦΙΣΊΗΣ. 1] an \ 7, , / Wp. 217. ποιεῖσθαι τὴν συνουσίαν. ἀλλ᾽ ἐκτείναντα ἀπομηκύ- ἢ - Ὁ St 7) ᾿ OLOV ἐπίδειξιν ποιουμένον / Ν > 9 / 5 Ν \ “ἤ ΘΟ VELV Aoyov συχνον KAT ἐμᾶαῦτον. ELTE Καὶ πρὸς ETEPOV, A \ » τ τιν pout θὲ T@ yap οντί TO VUV ρὴῆσεν > oe ea 5 \ > / Ἂ cy “aks 53 7 οὐχ ὅσον ὧδε ἐρωτηθὲν ἐλπίσειεν ἂν αὑτὸ εἰναί τις, 5 \ 7 , / a \ \ 53 Ν ἀλλὰ τυγχάνει λογου παμμήκους OV. TO δὲ αὖ σοὶ 5 \ lal yy A ᾿ μὴ χαρίζεσθαι καὶ τοῖσδε, ἄλλως τε καὶ σοῦ λέξαντος « 5) 57 7 , / Ὁ °, > Ν @S ELITES, ἀξενὸν Ul KATAPAlVvET al μοι και ἀγριον. E7TEL 7 / Ν / 5 / Geairnrov ye τὸν προσδιαλεγόμενον εἰναι δέχομαι , ’ @ > / / / παντάπασιν ἐξ ὧν αὐτὸς TE πρότερον διείλεγμαι καὶ Χ Ν fal / σὺ τὰ νῦν μοι διακελεύει. stoph. Nub.1379: κἀντεῦθεν μὲν, οἷον εἶκος, ἔπος πρὸς ἔπος ἠρειδό- μεσθα. And for the construc- tion, see note on Theet. 193 ἃ: δεξιὰ ἀριστερὰ μεταρρεού- σης. I. ἐκτείναντα — συχνόν] (ΟἿ, Prot. 329 ἃ, Ὁ : ὥσπερ τὰ χαλ- κεῖα πληγέντα μακρὸν ἠχεῖ καὶ ἀποτείνει---καὶ οἱ ῥήτορες οὕτω δολιχὸν κατατείνουσι τοῦ λόγου. The whole passage should be compared, also ib. 335 a, and infr. 268 Ὁ. ἐκτείναντα ἀπομη- κύνειν is probably a metaphor taken from the act of drawing out a thread in spinning, “ to spin off a long yarn by my- self.” 2. εἴτε --- ποιούμενον] As in the conversation of Protagoras with Socrates and Hippocrates τ᾿ τοῦ 916-278. On the other hand, the mythe and ar- gument of Protagoras, pp. 320-- 328, are not addressed to any one in particular, and might be said to be uttered either εἰς TO μέσον OY καθ᾽ ἑαυτόν. 4. οὐχ ὅσον ὧδε ἐρωτηθὲν φαί- νεται] Cf. Theet.147 ἃ : ἹῬάδιον, s r a o , 3 ὦ Σώκρατες, νῦν ye οὕτω φαίνεται C > εἰς ἀτὰρ κινδυνεύεις ἐρωτᾷν οἷον κιτ.λ. For the participle, cf. Phileb. 14 6: ἕν---τὰ πολλὰ εἶναι καὶ τὸ ἕν πολλὰ θαυμαστὸν λεχθέν. 5. λόγου παμμήκους ὄν] “ Re- quiring a lengthened argu- ment.” Cf. Rep. 3, 414 6: πεῖσαι δὲ συχνῆς πείθους. Legg. 5,730: πολλῆς εὐλαβείας. 6. σοῦ λέξαντος ὡς εἶπες] 1. 6. so courteously—referring chief- ly to the opening words of Socrates. Note the studied variation of λέξαντος---εἶπες. 7. ἄξενον] “ Uncivil ;” in- consistent with the courtesy due to strangers. Cf. Eur. Fr. ap. Stob. Fl. 126, 6: ᾿Ανὴρ ἕξένοισιν ἄξενος. καταφαίνετα)Ἠ A strength- ened, perhaps chiefly poetical, form of φαίνεται = “ appears dis- tinctly.” Cf. Hom. H. Ap. 431, and compare καθορᾷν, κατιδεῖν, κατακουειν. ἐπεὶ] “It were uyngracious: for I can make no objection to the respondent whom you offer to me.” Theztetus had joined in the conversation between the Stranger and Theodorus on the way. 5 -- Io We are agreed as tothename 12 ᾽ BEAL. ἾΑρα τοίνυν, ὦ ξένε, οὕτω καὶ, καθάπερ εἶπε p. 218. |p ΠΛΑΤΩΝΟΣ = / cal / Vv Σωκράτης, πᾶσι κεχαρισμένος ETEL; cH OR ‘ \ ΄σ \ A / Kuvduvever πρὸς μὲν ταῦτα οὐδὲν ἔτι λεκτέον 3 / 4 Ν a\ \ Ya Ν \ ΄ e εἰναι, Θεαίτητε πρὸς δὲ σε ON TO μετὰ τοῦτο, ὡς »Μ / ’ a‘ « / “Ὁ , ΕΣ lal ’ δέοικε, γίγνοιτ᾽ ἂν ὁ Aoyos. ἂν O apa τι τῷ μήκει 5 5) \ is , “- , 3 ἣν / πονῶν axOn, μὴ ἐμὲ αἰτιᾶσθαι τούτων, ἀλλὰ τούσδε \ Ν « / TOUS σους ETALPOUS. OEAT. ᾿Αλλ᾽ οἶμαι μὲν δὴ viv οὕτως οὐκ ἀπερεῖν" Ὁ ον lo / Ν / / av δ᾽ apa τι τοιοῦτον γίγνηται, Kal TOVvde παραληψο- 7 \ 4 \ «ς / 5 Ν ιομεθα Σωκράτη, τὸν Σωκράτους μὲν ὁμώνυμον, ἐμὸν \ e If , Ὁ ΄σ » δὲ ἡλικιώτην καὶ συγγυμναστήν, ᾧ συνδιαπονεῖν μετ lol Χ \ > ΕΣ ἐμοῦ τὰ πολλὰ οὐκ ἀηθες. 53 an \ HE. Ed λέγεις, καὶ ταῦτα μὲν os a NG P a ὍΣ ’ TpolovTos TOV Λογου KOLVY) OE PET I. "Apa rowvv—eoer;| “ Will you then in this (in select- ing me) be doing also what Socrates desired—ministering to the gratification of all pre- sent?” καὶ is separated from πᾶσι κεχ. ἔσει by the insertion of the clause καθάπερ εἶπε Σω- κράτης. So infr. p. 241 ¢: καὶ, καθάπερ νῦν εἶπες, ἀγαπήσεις ; Tim. 20 ¢: καὶ μὲν δὴ, καθάπερ εἶπε Τίμαιος ὅδε, k.7.A. Theet. 210 b: καὶ, ναὶ μὰ Δί᾽ ἔγωγε, πλείω k.T.A. εἶπε Σ. refers to ἡμῶν -- αἰτησάντων χάριν, in which words Socrates had included all present. 3. Kwédvveter — ἑταίρου) A murmur of assent from the by- standers must be supposed to follow Theztetus’ words. 5. τῷ μήκει πονῶν] Stallbaum, in his note, has substituted πόνων for πονῶν, but the par- ticiple is obviously right. For idia βουλεύσει é > ΄ ἐμοῦ σοι συσ- the dative, 681: πονῶν xm. 6. μὴ ἐμὲ αἰτιᾶσθαι) Bodl. Vat. Ven. Π. pe. The infinitive is a softened imperative, cf. Rep. 5) 473 a; πῆ. 262 δ: ov por φράζειν. 9. ἐὰν δὲ----Σωκράτη] So Pro- tarchus relieves Philebus, when tired. Phileb. τι €: ἀνάγκη δέχεσθαι, Φίληβος yap ἡμῖν 6 καλὸς ἀπείρηκεν. 12. τὰ πολλὰ is better taken as cognate accusative after συνδιαπονεῖν than as adverbial to οὐκ ἀηθές. ‘* Who is well used in most things to share labours with me.” Young Socrates ap- pears in the Theztetus as a mute personage, and shares the credit of the geometrico- arithmetical definition of the irrational roots. Thezt. 147, 148. cf. Soph. Trach. πλευρὰν πικρᾷ γλω- -- ΣΟΦΙΣΤΗΣ. — a. ew 7 4 fal ε > Y a > 4 0. 218. κεπτέον ἀρχομένῳ πρῶτον, ὡς ἐμοὶ φαίνεται, νῦν ἀπὸ “ fal - > / / τοῦ σοφιστοῦ, ζητοῦντι καὶ ἐμφανίζοντι λόγῳ Ti ποτ᾽ ” ᾿ς ᾿ \ ’ 4. IN , ΄ "7 ἔστι. νῦν γὰρ δὴ σύ [τε] κἀγὼ τούτου πέρι τοὔνομα / "7 ΤΣ Ν δὲ 4 Di fo > a μόνον ἔχομεν κοινῇ" TO δὲ ἔργον, Eh ᾧ καλοῦμεν, I. νῦν, which is opposed to προϊόντος 7.X., and would be joined most naturally with συσκεπτέον, appears to be dis- placed by ἃ conversational hyperbaton, perhaps to avoid the hiatus φαίνεται--- ἀπὸ, per- haps drawn by a sort of at- traction to the words which indicate the immediate subject of discourse. νῦν is again dis- placed, apparently for euphony, intieeeenc, 251 ΡΒ cf. also Legg. 1, 627 b: τὸ δ᾽ ὑπὸ σοῦ λεγόμενον μανθάνω νῦν. 2. ἐμφανίζοντι λόγῳ] “ Mak- ing clear by argument.” Dia- lectic is at once a process of discovery and of proof. ἐμφανί- ζοντι of course agrees with σοι and not with ἐμοὶ, as Ast seems, by some strange oversight, to have supposed. λόγῳ is slightly emphatic, and is referred to in what immediately follows. évo- pa =the name, is distinguished on the one hand from ἔργον or πρᾶγμα, the thing, and on the other from λόγος, the de- finition or true conception of the thing. For the former, cf. Cratyl. 413 6: αὐτὸ μηνύει τὸ ἔργον τὸ ὄνομα ἡ ἀνρεία, and for the latter, Thezt. 202, which is closely related to the pre- sent passage. The conception of λόγος is the same in this place as in the conclusion of the Theetetus, viz. definition through division or the ex- pression of the characteristic difference. ἔργον and λόγος are here correlative, and not op- posed, as in the common anti- thesis ἔργῳ οὐ λόγῳ. The union of both, τὸ πρᾶγμα αὐτὸ διὰ λόγων, is opposed to the mere name, TO ὄνομα μόνον χωρὶς λόγου. ‘The variation οἵ ἔργον and πρᾶγμα is perhaps due to the same re- finement to which that of φῦ- λον and γένος is owing. But épyov is rather the Sophist’s function, πρᾶγμα simply the thing meant by the word. Cf. also Legg. 9, 864 Ὁ: ἡμῖν δὲ = Segue haa Geta } Οὐκ εστι τὰ νυν ονοματῶν περι δύσερις λόγος. Ib. 10, 895 d: ap οὐκ ἂν ἐθέλοις περὶ ἑκάστου τρία νοεῖν,---ὄν μὲν τὴν οὐσίαν, ἕν δὲ τῆς οὐσίας τὸν λόγον, ἕν δὲ τὸ ὄνομα κιτ.λ. Lb. 12, 964 ἃ: σκο- πῶμεν τὸν εἰδότα ἱκανῶς περὶ ὧντι- νωνοῦν, οἷς ἔστι μὲν ὄνομα, ἔστι δ᾽ αὖ καὶ λόγος, πότερον μόνον ἐπίστα- σθαι τοὔνομα χρέων ἢ τόν γε ὄντα τι καὶ περὶ τῶν διαφερόντων μεγέθει καὶ κάλλει πάντα τὰ τοιαῦτα ayvo- εἴν αἰσχρόν. φῦλον, tribe, is a more poetical, because a newer, metaphor, for the idea of Sort or Kind than yévos, race or Jamily. The search for the Sophist is spoken of as a branch of natural history. For τὸ ὀνομα---συνωμολογήσασθαι, cf. Theet. 164 c: ὀνομάτων ὁμολογίας ὁμολογησά- μενοι. 3. σύ [τε] κἀγώ] The Bodleian MS. gives σὺ κἀγώ with the rest, except Flor. i. 4. ef ᾧ καλοῦμεν] Se. τὸ ὄνομα. πρὸς τὰς τῶν * Sophist.” Our object is to define the thing, and so to bring to light the conception which, it may be, we have seve- rally within our minds, Great sub- jects, it has long been felt, should be ap- proached through easy exam- ples. And, as the So- phist is a creature difficult to τὸ Κα 14 ΄ Ἄ £49 Δ > / ᾽ ΄ ΄ο > ΄σ y - EKATEPOS ταχ ἂν ἰδίᾳ παρ᾽ ἡμῖν αὐτοῖς ἐχοιμεν" δεῖ p. 218. |! ΠΛΑΤΩΝΟΣ \ ee.’ Ν / \ o 5 Ἀ lal \ δὲ cael παντὸς πέρι TO πρᾶγμα αὐτὸ μᾶλλον διὰ λόγων ἢ τοὔνομα μόνον συνομολογήσασθαι χωρὶς 7 Ν \ a A “. , ἊΝ rn > λόγου. τὸ de φῦλον, ὃ νῦν ἐπινοοῦμεν ζγεῖν, οὐ vA en ΄σ' 7 3,“ « , 5πάντων ῥᾷστον συλλαβεῖν TL ποτ᾿ ἐστιν, ὁ σοφιστης. lod > lal / lal lal ΄σ ὅσα δ᾽ αὖ τῶν μεγάλων δεῖ διαπονεῖσθαι καλῶς, περὶ ΄ ,, 7 a Ν ΄ Ν ᾿ς τῶν τοιούτων δέδοκται πᾶσι καὶ πάλαι τὸ πρότερον 5 cal Ν (on ff > \ Lad ἴω Ν 5 ἐν σμικροῖς καὶ ῥᾷοσιν αὐτὰ δεῖν μελετᾷν, πρὶν ἐν > ΄ ΄σ / an 5 53 7 327) αὐυτοις Τοῖς PEYLOTOLS. νυν OUI, 5) Θεαίτητε, EYWYE 4. τὸ δὲ φῦλον -- ὁδόν] “ Now the Sophist tribe, which we are at present minded to examine, is of a nature which is not the easiest in the world to comprehend. Again, when a great subject is to be adequately handled, it has long since been the ap- proved course in such a case to try one’s hand upon the question in trivial and easy instances, before attempting it in the great matter which has been undertaken. On the present occasion there- fore, Thezetetus, I would re- commend that you and I, con- sidering the Sophist to be of a kind which is difficult to cap- ture and to chase, should try our prentice hand on some easier quarry, and make this a preparatory study of the way to find him, unless you have at your command some more feasible proposal.” Perhaps in τὴν μέθοδον αὐτοῦ there is an allusion to the literal mean- ing of μετιέναι, ‘to pursue.’ Cf. infr. 235 d. οὐ πάντων ῥᾷστον Cf. inf. 274. 6. [ἢ ἘΠ Ρ: Ὁ; 10 τ οὐ Ν lal -“ὔ / \ , ὶ νῷν οὕτω συμβουλεύω, χαλεπὸν καὶ δυσθήρευτον πάντως ῥᾷστον διελθεῖν, πάντων should probably be read. 7. καὶ πάλαι) “ Even from of old.” Not only now but long ago. Cf. Theet. 202 d: καὶ πολλοί. τὸ---δεῖν] The article marks the infinitive as the subject of the verb. περὶ τῶν τοιούτων may be construed with δέδοκται, but belongs rather to the whole sentence. “In dealing with such subjects it has long been the general opinion that one should first exercise inquiry on lesser and easier topics.” αὐτὰ is vague, resuming τῶν τοιούτων, but in a more general sense = theinquiry or the method of procedure. 10. χαλεπὸν---προμελετᾷν]} These words are in apposition to οὕτω after συμβουλεύω. χαλεπὸν = “troublesome.” As if he were some animal we were trying to lay hold of. Cf. Polit.273 Ὁ: ὅσα χαλεπὰ τὰς φύσεις (86. τῶν θηρίων), and Rep. 6, 493 b: ὁπότε χαλε- πώτατον καὶ πραότατον Kal ἐκ τίνων γίγνεται. The metaphor, which appears very slightly in τὸ φῦ- ov — συλλαβεῖν, 15. more dis- tinctly present here, and in ΣΟΦΙΣΤΗΣ. « / ny ἊΝ ων ‘a / / » Τρ. 218. ηγησαμένοις εἰναι τὸ τοῦ σοφιστοῦ γένος πρότερον ἐν p. 219. LAX δ} Ν 6 ὃ > nan Ἃ lal > Ν a ῳ βῴονι ΤῊΨν μέσοοον αὐτοὺυ Τρομε ETAV, ει μὴ OU 7 Ε] / yy , lay A « / ποθεν εὐπετεστέραν Exes εἰπεῖν ἄλλην οδὸν. ΘΕΑΙ. ᾿Αλλ᾽ οὐκ ἔχω. / “ ΄ a EE. Βούλει δῆτα περί τινος τῶν φαύλων μετιόντες πειραθῶμεν παράδειγμα αὐτὸ θέσθαι τοῦ μείζονος ; ΘΕΑΙ. Ναί. ΞΕ. Ti δῆτα προταζαίμεθ᾽ καὶ σμικρόν, λόγον δὲ μηδενὸς “Ὁ 77 Ν ἄν εὐγνωστον μέν >’ 7 vy ΄σ- ἐλαττονα ἐχον τῶν / © » La ie) > an / / μειζόνων $ OLOV ἀσπαλιευτὴς ap OV πᾶσι TE γνω- a > 4 ΄σ ἊΝ / ριμον καὶ σπουδῆς οὐ πάνυ τι πολλῆς τινὸς ἐπάξιον : ΘΕΑΙ. Οὕτως. EE. Μέθοδον μὴν αὐτὸν ἐλπίζω καὶ λόγον οὐκ 5 7 Chae » Ἀ a 7 ἀνεπιτήδειον ἡμῖν ἔχειν πρὸς ὃ βουλομεθα. ΘΕΑΙ. Καλῶς ἂν ἔχοι. the word δυσθήρευτον, which is partly suggested by χαλεπὸν and partly by οὐ ῥάδιον συλλα- Bev, the image of the chase, which is continued afterwards, is fully brought out. 2. τὴν μέθοδον αὐτοῦ προμελε- rav| “ΤῸ practise beforehand the method, which is proper to be applied to him.” For the genitive αὐτοῦ, see below: μέθο- Sov μὴν αὐτὸν ἐλπίζω----ἔχειν. For ποθὲν, cf. Polit. 257 d: κινδυνεύετον ἄμφω ποθὲν ἐμοὶ συγ- γένειαν ἔχειν τινά. 5. μετιόντες) Used absolutely, as in Protag. 350 d: εἰ οὕτω με- τιὼν ἔροιό με. It is natural that words like μετιέναι and χρῆσθαι (supr. 217 6), which recur often with the same object (λόγος), should sometimes be used alone. 6. παράδειγμα θεῖναι] Cf. Polit. 277 ὃ sqq., where the nature of such examples is explained. The “large letters” of the Re- public afford an apparent in- stance of the converse method. But in each case the inquiry advances from the less known to the more known. 8. προταξαίμεθ᾽ ἂν] Se. ζητεῖν ΟΥ̓ μετιέναι. 10. οἷον ἀσπαλιευτής) The con- struction is absolute. Cf. Theset. 178 6: οἷον θερμά, ἄρα x.7.d. Euthyd. 302 a: οἷον βοῦς καὶ πρόβατα, dpa k.t.d. alib. II. ov πάνυ τι πολλῆς τινός] “ Worth no very great amount of interest.” 15. Καλῶς ἂν ἔχοι] “That is well.” Theexpression is slightly hypothetical. Theztetus takes the Stranger’s word for what he himself does not clearly see, Io hs on catch, it is advisable to adopt this plan with him. Let the angler be ~ our ex- ample, in which to practise the method of definition. 10 ΠΛΑΤΩΝΟΣ EE. Φέρε δή, τῆδε ἀρχώμεθα αὐτοῦ. καί μοι λέγε" p- 219}) / ξ 7 » Ν ΕΣ 3) 32 A πότερον WS τεχνίτην αὐτὸν ἢ τινα ἄτεχνον, ἀλλὴν δὲ ΕΣ / δύναμιν ἔχοντα, θήσομεν ; A ad ΄ 7 ΘΕΑΙ. ἭΚκιστα γε ἄτεχνον. > \ ἴω cal ΄- A Heisan 5 EH. ᾿Αλλὰ μὴν τῶν ye τεχνῶν πασῶν σχεδὸν artist, and Ks 7 there are εἰδὴ δυο. two kinds Ξ of art: OEAI. [las ; — / \ Ν a Ν XN 6 3 ΄σ =i Dip Γεωργία μέν K&L 007) πέρι ΤΟ νῆτον πᾶν an 7 7 3 \ Ν 7ὔ \ σῶμα θεραπεία, τὸ τε ad περὶ τὸ ξύνθετον καὶ - / a \ a 7 A / ιοτλαστον, Ὁ δὴ σκεῦος ὠνομάκαμεν, ἣ TE μιμητική, b 72 “ / > x CEN / δ νῆι ξύμπαντα TAVTA OLKALOTAT αν EVL 7 POO AYOPEVOLT αν » / ονοματι. ΘΕΑΙ. [as καὶ τίνι: — ΄- «“ “δ Ν , / Ὰ a , =E. [lav ὅπερ av μὴ πρότερον τις ov ὕστερον eis I. αὐτοῦ is probably neuter. Cf. Rep. 2, 369 b: εἰ γιγνομένην πόλιν θεασαίμεθα λόγῳ --- οὐκοῦν γενομένου αὐτοῦ. 2. ἄτεχνον, ἄλλην δὲ δύναμιν ἔχοντα] For the qualifying clause with δὲ, compare Polit. 277 ¢: τοῖς δ᾽ ἄλλοις διὰ χει- ρουργιῶν, et passim; and for the etymological use of ἄτεχνον, cf. Thezt. 168 a: ἀντὶ----φιλοσό- ov μισοῦντας τοῦτο TO πρᾶγμα. Legg. 7, 810 ἃ: φιλοσοφοῦντα μηδὲ μισοῦντα. Ib. 10, 886 ο: Θεογονίαν --- γενόμενοί τε ὡς πρὸς ἀλλήλους ὡμίλησαν. 4. Ἥκιστά γε] γε, though omitted by the Bodleian MS., with AT, is probably right, and expresses assent to the meaning of the question. 8. πᾶν σῶμα] “ All,” col- lectively, as in Ar. Eth. Nice. 1. 13. ὃ 7: ὀφθαλμὸν καὶ πᾶν σῶμα. For σκεῦος = ξύνθετον καὶ πλαστόν, cf. Rep. 2, 381 ἃ: καὶ μὴν καὶ τά γε Evvbera πάντα, σκεύη τε καὶ οἰκοδομήματα καὶ ἀμφιέσματα. σκεῦος here de- notes what is manufactured, (compounded or moulded,) as distinguished from organized bodies; cf. Rep. 10, 596 d. σῶμα acquires a still more general meaning in Phileb. 29 d, infr. 246 a. 11. δικαιότατ᾽ av ἑνὶ] The Bod- leian, with a corrector of the Coislinian MS., gives ay twice over, after δικαιότατα and προσ- ayopevotro. 14. Πᾶν ὅπερ] “ In the case of everything, which—.” The ac- cusative is placed, as if abso- lutely, at the beginning of the sentence, and is rather governed by φαμὲν than by ἄγοντα. Cf. Polit.295 d: πᾶν τὸ τοιοῦτον Evp- βαινον, where the accusative is absolute. And infr. τὸ----μαθημα- τικὸν---εἶδος. Forthe meaning, cf. Theet. 155 Ὁ: ὃ μὴ πρότερον ἦν, ΣΟΦΙΣΤῊΣ. 17 p. 219. οὐσίαν ayy, τὸν μὲν ἄγοντα ποιεῖν, τὸ δὲ ἀγόμενον ποιεῖσθαί πού φαμεν. ΘΕΑΙ. ᾿Ορθῶς. BE. Τὰ δέ ye νῦν δὴ [ἃ] διήλθομεν ἅπαντα εἶχεν εἰς τοῦτο τὴν αὑτῶν δύναμιν. 5 OEAI. Εἶχε yap οὖν. SE. Ποιητικὴν τοίνυν αὐτὰ συγκεφαλαιωσάμενοι Anes προσείπωμεν. : 6. ΘΈΑΙ. "ἕστω. EE. To δὴ μαθηματικὸν αὖ μετὰ τοῦτο εἶδος ὅλον _ ° ΝῊ Ν - / , \ Qi Ὁ καὶ TO TNS YUMPLOEWS TO TE KPNMATLOTLKOV και AYW- ἀλλὰ ὕστερον τοῦτο εἶναι ἄνευ τοῦ “ Well, if we take next to this γενέσθαι καὶ γίγνεσθαι ἀδύνατον; the whole department of learn- Symp. 205 Ὁ: ἡ γάρ ro ek τοῦ ing and of acquiring know- μὴ ὄντος eis τὸ ὃν ἰόντι ὁτῳοῦν ledge, with those of money- αἰτία πᾶσά ἐστι ποίησις. Pro- making,contention and pursuit, duction is more fully described since none of these produces, in Legg. 10, 894 a: γίγνεται but they are engaged either in δὴ πάντων γένεσις, ἥνικ᾽ ἂν τί πάθος conquering, or in preventing ἢ; δῆλον ὡς ὁπόταν ἀρχὴ λαβοῦσα ~=men from conquering, that αὔξην εἰς τὴν δευτέραν ἔλθη μετά- which already exists and has βασιν, καὶ ἀπὸ ταύτης εἰς τὴν πλή-ἠἑ been produced,— on account σιον, καὶ μέχρι τριῶν ἐλθοῦσα of all these sections, it will ap- αἴσθησιν σχῇ τοῖς αἰσθανομένοις. pear most suitable to use the 4. Ta δέ ye viv δὴ [a] διήλθο- term ‘acquisitive art.” “It μεν] “But those things which will indeed wear an appro- we just now enumerated.” ais priate look.” Observe that no omitted in the Bodleian and attempt is made to look for the seven other MSS. The reading Sophist either in the μαθηματι- a δέ ye νῦν δὴ διήλθομεν, which is κὸν ΟΥ̓γνωριστικὸν εἶδος τῶν τεχ- adopted by the Zurich editors, νῶν. The construction of the is due to a corrector of the sentence is not determined from Coislinian MS. But the read- the beginning, but the accusa- ing in the text is preferable tives (which are resumed in as being less obvious; and the ταῦτα ξυνάπαντα τὰ μέρη) simply inversion (νῦν δὴ ἃ for a viv δὴ) follow the analogy of ποιητικὴν is in the manner of these dia- —avra. logues. (The old edd. had νῦν μαθηματικὸνἹ So the Bod- a δή with BEF.) leian MS. Here, as in Ar. Met. For ra—a, cf. Rep.8,585 b: I.1, the MSS. vary between τὰ οἷον σίτου τε καὶ ποτοῦ καὶ ὄψου. μαθηματ. and μαθητ. 10, Τὸ δὴ --- πρέποι γὰρ ἄν] D 18 ΠΛΑΤΩ͂ΝΟΣ Ν Ν / > ‘ “ \ sal νιστικὸν καὶ OnpevTiKov,—e7reLOn δημιουργεῖ μὲν οὐδὲν Pp. 219. }) / \ \ 7 Ν / ‘ \ ω τούτων, τὰ δὲ ὄντα καὶ γεγονότα τὰ μεν χειροῦται 7 Us \ \ a / > λόγοις καὶ πράζεσι, Ta δὲ TOL χειρουμενοις ουκ > , 7 ᾽ "7 Ν ad ΄ Ν ἐπιτρέπει,----μαλιστ᾽ ἂν που διὰ ταῦτα ξυνάπαντα τα ’ 7 Ν ΄σ ὃ / And an art 5 μέρη τέχνη τις κτητικὴ λεχθεῖσα av διαπρέψειεν. of getting. The an- gler’s is an art of get- ting. ΘΕΑΙ. Nai: πρέποι yap av. Lal \ Lal ¢ ral : » ΄ HE. Κτητικῆς δὴ καὶ ποιητικῆς ξυμπασῶν οὐσῶν a “ ᾽ 7 Χ > , 3 Us τῶν τεχνῶν ἐν ποτέρᾳ τὴν ἀσπαλιευτικὴν, ὦ Θεαί- TNTE, τιθῶμεν: BEAL. Ἔν κτητικῇ που δῆλον. 2. τὰ μὲν χειροῦται λόγοις] Cf. Euthyd. 290b, where geometers &c.are classed amongst @npevrat. 3 ’ ~ > , 4. ἐπιτρέπει] SC. χειροῦσθαι αὐτά. , > ” ΄ μάλιστ᾽ ἄν που ---διαπρέψειεν] So Bodl. δ. Π| 1. : cett. διαγρά- Ψειεν. If we compare the cor- responding clause in the pre- ceding context, supr. Ὁ, ξύμ- mavra ταῦτα --- ὀνόματι, it ap- pears that no rendering of these words 15 satisfactory which separates ταῦτα from ξυνάπαντα τὰ peépyn-(e. g. Stallb. “maximé propterea has partes cunctas—dici decebit :’ which is also objectionable because of the harshness of the at- traction, λεχθεῖσα for λεχθέντα). The same objection holds (un- less διὰ were omitted) against the reading διαγράψειεν, which was justly suspected on other grounds by Heindorf. Hence the preceding accusatives, which are absolute, are re- sumed with a new construc- tion in ταῦτα ξυνάπαντα τὰ μέρη: and the words mean either, as above rendered, “an art of ac- quisition is the most suitable to be named on account of all these parts” (cf. Polit. 269 ο: πρέψει ῥηθέν. ib. 288 6: τοῦτο ----Ὗτούτοις ἕν ὄνομα ἅπασιν πρέψει προσαγορευθέν), or, by a return to poetical usage, suggested by the rare verb, διὰ may per- haps be construed “through- out,” and διαπρέψειεν may re- tain something of the original meaning of “ looking brightly forth.’ “ An art of acquisition will, when named, be seen clearly to pervade all these sections.” Cf. Emped. Fr. vv. 5,6: τρὶς μὲν μυρίας ὥρας ἀπὸ μακά- ρὼν ἀλαλῆσθαι γεινόμενον παντοῖα διὰ χρέω εἴδεα θνητῶν. Hom. Hymn to Hermes, vv. 350, 1: ὄφρα μὲν οὖν ἐδίωκε διὰ ψαμα- θωδέα χῶρον, ῥεῖα μάλ᾽ ἴχνια πάντα διέπρεπεν ἐν κονίῃσιν. The latter interpretation makes the anacoluthon easier, and gives a more appropriate meaning to the compound verb, but is too singular to be asserted with confidence. For μάλιστα, ef. infr. 266a: τὼ δὲ ὑπολοίπω σχεδὸν μάλιστ᾽ ἂν λεγοίσθην εἰδωλοποϊκώ. 6. πρέποι γὰρ av] Se. οὕτω λεχθεῖσα. το. δῆλον] Se. ὅτι. ῃ Ρ. 210. ΣΟΦΙΣΤΗΣ. 19 HE. Κτητικῆς δὲ ap’ ov δύο εἴδη ; τὸ μὲν ἑκόντων \ Cees \ Ἂ , - δ προς ἑκόντας μεταβλητικὸν ὃν διά τε δωρεῶν καὶ us » 4 \ > ᾽ μισθώσεων καὶ ἀγοράσεων ; τὸ δὲ λοιπὸν ἢ KaT Not by ἘΠ A Ἢ , 3 ; \ contract or ἐργα ἢ κατὰ λόγους χειρούμενον ξύμπαν χειρωτικὸν — exchange, but con- Ἂ ” QV εἰὴ 3 quest. ΘΙΕΑΙ. Φαίνεται γοῦν ἐκ τῶν εἰρημένων. hn / / ‘ Ἀ 5 — SE. Τί δέ; τὴν χειρωτικὴν ap ov διχῇ τμητέον ; SEAT. In; —) N \ Nancy : HE. To μὲν ἀναφανδὸν ὅλον ἀγωνιστικὸν {θέν-ὀ Δυὰ this not by ἊΝ \ ΄- » tad a , τες , To de κρυφαῖον αὐτῆς πᾶν θηρευτικόν. CEAI,. Ναί HE. Τὴν δέ γε μὴν θηρευτικὴν ἄλογον τὸ μὴ οὐ τέμνειν διχῇ. ~ GEAI. Λέγε ὅπῃ. HE. Τὸ μὲν ἀψύχου ἐμψύχου. γένους διελομένους, τὸ δ᾽ GEAI. Τί μήν ; εἴπερ ἔστον γε ἄμφω. σι 10 force but craft. ‘ “ \ > Μ la . qn Ν Gi. ἸΙῶς δὲ οὐκ ἐστον ; καὶ δεῖ ye ἡμᾶς τὸ μὲν Now οἱ 2. μεταβλητικὸν ὃν---κειρωτικὸν av etm] For the independent verb in the second of two de- pendent clauses, see Theet. 149 6: δύνανται ἐγείρειν τε----καὶ -ο-Οἀμβλίσκουσιν, et passim. 3. ἢ κατ᾽ ἔργα ἢ κατὰ λόγους] Like λόγοις καὶ πράξεσι above. Science is here included under χειρωτικῆ. Knowledge is like the kingdom of heaven, which the violent take by force. 4. χειρούμενον is possibly passive, like ἀνασπώμενον, intr. 221 (where see note), but this is less probable with the ac- tive χειροῦται preceding, supr. Ὁ. See also 220 ὃ: τὸ μὲν -- ποιεῖται τὴν θήραν. 225 6, ἀμφι- σβητοῦν. D ξύμπαν) I. 6. while undi- vided. So ὅλον, πᾶν, κιτ.λ., In what follows. 9. tdetest] Se. τέμνωμεν. θέντας Heind. and Par. E. corr. The MS. confirmation is too slight to justify the admission of a conjecture, which must however be regarded as pro- bable. Cf. infir. διελομένους. But see Polit. 302 d: καὶ ταύτην ἡμῖν θετέον ἐστὶ διπλῆν. Πῶς δή ; καὶ τίνι διαιροῦντες ταύτην. 12. ἄλογον] “ Tllogical.” I. e. Undiscriminating: the function of λόγος being to dis- tinguish. Cf. Thezet. sub fin. 17. εἴπερ ἔστον ye aude] I. 6. if there is ἃ θήρα τῶν ἀψύχων. [2] - catching by craft, one kind pur- sues in- animate things, the other ani- mals, And the art of ani- mal-catch- ing pursues either land or water- prey. Of aquatic creatures, some fly, some only swim ; whence fowling is distin- guished from fish- ing. 20 σι ᾽ 7 7 ako 4 ᾽ » “ τῶν ἀψύχων, ἀνώνυμον *ov* πλὴν κατ᾽ Evia τῆς Pp. 220. }} MAATQNOZ “ 3, Ν ~ 3 », 4 κολυμβητικῆς ἄττα μέρη καὶ τοιαῦτ᾽ ἄλλα βραχέα, / 5. Ν ὃ , a » ΄ὔ , 5 θ , χαίρειν ἐᾶσαι, TO δέ, τῶν ἐμψύχων ζώων οὖσαν θήραν, προσειπεῖν ζωοθηρικήν. ΘΕΑΙ. "Eoro. EE. Ζωοθηρικῆς δὲ ap οὐ διπλοῦν εἶδος ἂν λέ. > / Ν \ “22 Ζ / -“ vy yoto ἐν δίκῃ, TO μὲν πεζοῦ γένους, πολλοῖς εἴδεσι Ν 3 / / / ἈΝ , os καὶ ὀνόμασι διῃρημένον, πεζοθηρικόν. τὸ δ᾽ ἕτερον lod 4 ca. > / VEVO TLKOU ζώου παν ενυγροθηρικον 9 ΘΕΑΙ. Πάνυ γε. a \ Ν \ \ ΄σ € vad SE. Νευστικοῦ μὴν τὸ μὲν πτηνὸν φῦλον ορώμεν, τὸ δὲ ἔνυδρον ; OCEAL. Hos & ov; a a Χ ,ὔ lal « ΄σ c =E. Καὶ tov πτηνοῦ μὴν γένους πᾶσα ημῖν ἢ I. ἀνώνυμον Ὁ] MSS. ἐᾶν (sic Bodl.) ὃν is Heindorf’s conjecture. Cf. Polit. 260e: ἀνώνυμον ὃν τυγχάνει τὸ γένος. The difference of tense (ἐᾷν--- ἐᾶσαι) forbids the notion of an epexegesis like that in Legg. 3, 6907 a: τὸ δὲ τριχῇ διελεῖν---- πειραθῶμεν διατεμεῖν. Cf., how- ever, Parm. Fr. 725 : τὴν μὲν ἐᾷν Plat. Lege. 9, 878 b: ἀνώνυμον ἐᾷν. τῆς κολυμβητικῆς ἄττα μέρη] E. g. ἡ τῶν σπογγοκολυμβητῶν > ἀνόητον, ἀνώνυμον. θήρα. Υ. Oppian Halieut. V. 612. 11. Νευστικοῦ] “οἱ what swims.” The article is some- times omitted before a generic or collective word. Cf. infr. 221 bh: ξυμπασῆς --τέχνης. Mr. Grote remarks on this (Plato, &c., vol. ii. p. 401): “ Plato considers the air as a fluid / / / / > / 15 θήρα λέγεταί ποὺ τις ὀρνιθευτικη. birds swim.” But the νευστικά πτηνά are the water-fowl. The expression πᾶσα ---ἡ θήρα below probably implies that only a part of ὀρνιθευτικὴ has been previously mentioned. In Legg. 7,824 6 the ἐνυγροθηρευτὴς is distin- guished from the ὀρνιθευτὴς, and is forbidden to exercise in which his art in harbours, or in sacred rivers, marshes, or pools. In the present passage évvypos is distinguished from ἔνυδρος, “in wet” from “ under water,’ the former term in- cluding the latter. The Eleate shews his dialectical skill in proving that ‘“ aquatie sport” is not an adequate definition of the fisherman’s craft. 14. πᾶσα---ἡ θήρα] 1. 6. not only of the νευστικὸν πτηνόν but of all that flies. The objection b ΣΟΦΙΣΤΗΣ. 21 OEAI. Λέγεται yap οὖν. HE. Tod δὲ ἐνύδρου σχεδὸν τὸ σύνολον ἁλιευτική. ΘΕΑΙ. Ναί. / / 5 Ν / oh) ’ “Δ \ BE. Τί δέ; ταύτην ad τὴν θήραν ap οὐκ av κατὰ μέγιστα μέρη δύο διελοίμην ; ΘΕΑΙ. Κατὰ ποῖα: ἃ δ / ΄ \ HE. Kad’ a τὸ μὲν ἕρκεσιν αὐτόθι ποιεῖται τὴν θήραν, τὸ δὲ πληγῇ. ΘΈΑΙ. Πῶς λέγεις, καὶ πῇ διαιρούμενος ἑκάτερον; δ / / “ “ a‘ σ“ / ΞΕ. To pev,—ore πᾶν ὅσον av ἕνεκα κωλυσεως 7 ie “ Ν >’ 7 εἰργῃ τι περιέχον, EPKOS εἰκὸς ὀνομάζειν. ΘΕΑΙ. Πάνυ μὲν οὖν. BE. Κύρτους δὴ καὶ δίκτυα καὶ βρόχους καὶ ΄ Ν \ a lal + Χ σ΄ ποόρκοὺυς καὶ τὰ τοιαῦτα μῶν ἄλλο τι πλὴν ἐρκὴ χρὴ προσαγορεύειν: of Aristot., de Part. Anim. I. 2, applies here: προσήκει μὴ δια- σπᾷν ἕκαστον γένος, οἷον τοὺς ὄρνι- θας τοὺς μὲν ἐν τῆδε τοὺς δ᾽ ἐν ἄλλῃ διαιρέσει, καθάστερ ἔχουσιν ai γεγραμμέναι διαιρες εἰς. 7. αὐτόθι] (Par. F. αὐτόθεν). Hither (if αὐτόθι is emphatic, for which somewhat rare use in Attic cf. Lege. 3, 702 0); “The one pursues his game with enclosures in the very haunts of his prey.” But the adverb in this case belongs rather to the noun than the verb. Or, better, referring to evvdpov supr., “The one pur- sues his game there with en- closures, the other by striking.” αὐτόθι is then taken equally with both clauses, and the sole emphasis is laid on ἕρκεσιν as opposed to πληγῇ. Plato im- plies that the word ἕρκος is to be derived from εἴργω. 10, Τὸ μὲν--τοιοῦτον] The sen- tence is interrupted by the minor premiss, κύρτους «.7.A., in which the general definition of ἕρκος is applied, and τὸ μὲν is more explicitly resumed in τοῦτο μέν. τοῦτο refers to the processes connected with creels, nets, and the other implements just mentioned, amongst which πόρ- kos seems to have been rather a rush-basket than anet. ‘One kind—since all that encloses anything to prevent egress may naturally be termed an en- closure. (Certainly.) Whence baskets and casting-nets, and nooses and creels, and the like must be called enclosures and nothing else. (Exactly.) This department therefore of the sport we shall name ‘fishing by enclosure.” 14. ἄλλο] Bodl. om. on Of fishing there are two chief parts, one working by enclosure, as with baskets, creels, and nets, the 10 other by striking ; and this sometimes at night, by torch- light, some- times by day with , barbed points. These are either im- pelled from above, as inspearing, or jerked up from be- neath, with canes or rods, into the head or lips of the prey. 5 OO a OEAI. Οὐδέν. 2 ΠΛΑΤΩΝΟΣ — yy σ \ y « Ν “ 4 Ν ΞῈ..- -Γοῦτο μὲν apa ἑρκοθηρικὸν τῆς ἀγρας τὸ / / Ὑ ~ μέρος φήσομεν, ἢ TL τοιοῦτον. ΘΕΑΙ. Nai. 5 ΞΕ, Τὸ δὲ ἀγκίστροις καὶ τριόδουσι πληγῇ γιγνό- - \ ᾽ / \ / / μενον ETEPOV μεν εκείνου, πληκτικὴν δέ τινα θήραν tf A va CuK / a Jf “Ὁ / ΕΣ ἡμᾶς προσειπεῖν evi λόγῳ νὺν χρεῶν. ἢ TL τις ἂν, > 5) ΄ [ὦ] Θεαίτητε, εἴποι κάλλιον ; ΘΕΑΙ. ᾿Αμελῶμεν τοῦ ὀνόματος" ἀρκεῖ γὰρ καὶ τοτοῦτο. = Ey TH 7, a \ \ , 5 μὰ, bs τοίνυν πληκτικὴς TO μὲν νυκτερινον, οἶμαι, Ν XN a / « ᾽ » cal lal Ν \ πρὸς πυρὸς φῶς γιγνόμενον ὑπ αὐτῶν τῶν περὶ THY θήραν πυρευτικὴν ῥηθῆναι συμβέβηκεν. OEAI. Πάνυ γε. / ec 3 ΄ 3, ΞῈ. Τὸ δέ γε μεθημερινόν, ὡς ἐχόντων ἐν ἄκροις 3, a ΄ / ἄγκιστρα καὶ TOV τριοδόντων, πᾶν ἀγκιστρευτικόν. / \ 3 GEAI. Λέγεται yap οὖν. EE. Τοῦ τοίνυν a ἢ τῆς πληκτικῆς τὲ μι de OU τοινὺυν AYKLOT PEVTLKOU TNS TANKTLKNS TO \ A 5 \ 7 “ \ \ ΄σ / μὲν ἄνωθεν εἰς TO κάτω γιγνόμενον διὰ TO τοῖς TPLO- , κέκληται. ΘΈΑΙ. Φασὶ γοῦν τινές. ο 7 la , 5 οδουσιν οὕτω μάλιστα χρῆσθαι τριοδοντία τις, οἶμαι, Ν ip ’ὔ aA Μ / e o ZE. To δέ ye λοιπὸν ἐστιν ἕν ἔτι μόνον, ὡς εἰπεῖν, εἰδος. ὃ: [o] ] i. 12. πρὸς πυρὸς φῶς γιγνόμενον] The nocturnal branch of the art of striking fish, as it is pur- sued by fire-light, has received from those who practise it the name of ‘ firing.’ 16. πᾶν ἀγκιστρευτικόν] Se. ἐρ- ρήθη from ῥηθῆναι συμβέβηκεν. ἀγκιστρευτικόν] This notion reappears in Legg. 7, 823 e (a curious passage): ὦ φίλοι, εἰθ᾽ ὑμᾶς μήτε τὶς ἐπιθυμία μήτ᾽ ἔρως τῆς περὶ θάλατταν θήρας ποτὲ λάβοι, μηδὲ ἀγκιστρείας" μηδ᾽ ὅλως τῆς τῶν ἐνύδρων ζώων, μήτε ἐγρη- γορόσι μήτε εὕδουσι κύρτοις (cf. supr. b.) ἀργὸν θήραν διαπονουμέ- νοις. (Cf. Opp. Halieut. 3, et 566. : κύρτοις, οἱ κνώσσοντας ἑοὺς ηὔφρηναν ἄνακτας.) 20. οὕτω] Sc. ἄνωθεν εἰς τὸ κάτω. χρῆσθαι] Sc. τοὺς περὶ τὴν τέχ- νην. Cf. Gorg. 457 ὁ, δύνανται. p. 220. |p fh d ee Bp. 2.20. 2 221. ΣΟΦΙΣΤΗΣ. 23 OEAI. To ποῖον ; HE. To τῆς ἐναντίας ταύτῃ πληγῆ:, ἀγκίστρῳ TE γιγνόμενον καὶ τῶν ἰχθύων οὐχ 7) τις ἂν τύχῃ τοῦ σώ- απο; ὥσπερ τοῖς τριόδουσιν, ἀλλὰ περὶ τὴν κεφαλὴν καὶ τὸ στόμα τοῦ θηρευθέντος ἑκάστοτε, καὶ κάτωθεν 5 > 3 / yy e7 Ν / > ΄ὔ εἰς τουναντιον aAV@ ῥάβδοις καὶ καλάμοις ἀνασπῶ- Ὁ 7 ͵ 53 , rn 27 μενον οὗ τί φήσομεν, ὦ Θεαίτητε, δεῖν τοὔνομα λέγεσθαι: OHAI. Δοκῶ μέν, ὅπερ ἄρτι προὐθέμεθα δεῖν 3 tal ΓΈ) 3 XN a > / ἐξευρεῖν, τοῦτ αὐτὸ νῦν ἀποτετελέσθαι. ἘΠῚ No yf o » las / / 3 \ i. Nouv apa τῆς ἀσπαλιευτικὴς πέρι σὺ TE KAY 7 » ΄ 27 » \ συνωμολογήκαμεν οὐ μονον τοὔνομα, ἀλλὰ SIN Καὶ TOV , Ν SIN 5 5. 7 ε A , λόγον περὶ αὐτὸ τοὔργον εἰλήφαμεν ἱκανῶς. ξυμπά- σης γὰρ τέχνης \ \ “ ,ὔ Ν 53 TO μὲν ἡμίσυ μέρος κτητικον ἣν, a \ , a \ a κτητικοῦ δὲ χειρωτικόν, χειρωτικοῦ δὲ θηρευτικόν, τοῦ 3. 7 τις ἂν τύχῃ] “ Wherever one may chance to hit.” rvy- χάνω is here in transition from the literal to the metaphorical meaning (from “hit” to Ὁ chance”). 9. ὅπερ---ἐξευρεῖν] “ The dis- covery of which we set before us as a task.” Cf. ri οὖν mpora- ξόμεθα supra, and, for the pleo- nasm of δεῖν, Rep. 6, 503 ¢: ἣν yap διήλθομεν φύσιν δεῖν ὑπ- 4. ὥσπερ τοῖς τριόδουσιν] Se. ἀρχειν αὐτοῖς. Ib. 7, 535 a: γίγνεται ἡ πληγή. δεῖν ἐκλεκτέον. Phil. 50 ἃ. 6. ἀνασπώμενον] This neuter 12. τὸν λόγον περὶ αὐτὸ τοὖργον] participle, like γιγνόμενον, 15 Ρ88- “The definition embracing sive, the cognate accusative of closely the thing itself,” vid. the active becoming the sub- supr. 218 6. Cf. also Legg. ject of the passive verb. See 10, 895 d (already quoted) : General Introduction. ‘“ The περὶ ἕκαστον τρία νοεῖν ---- ἕν pee kind which is characterized by the stroke opposite to this, made with a barbed point not in any chance part of the body as is done with spears, but about the head and mouth of the prey, and in the opposite direction, being effected with an upward jerking movement by means of rods and canes.” τὴν οὐσίαν, ἕν δὲ τῆς οὐσίας τὸν λόγον, ἕν δὲ τὸ ὄνομα, with which compare Ep. 7, 342. 13. εἰλήφαμεν] The expression is amplified in the second clause and a new verb introduced, as often in Plato. 14. τὸ μὲν ἥμισυ μέρος] “ The one half’’—the other, ποιητική, is passed over here. = This last distinction completes the defini- tion of the “Art of angling.” Of which we now possess in common, not the namealone, but an exact con- ception ex- pressed in words. 24 ΠΛΑΤΩΏΝΟΣ δὲ θηρευτικοῦ ζωοθηρικόν, ζωοθηρικοῦ δὲ ἐνυγροθὴη- p. 221. |). ρικόν, ἐνυγροθηρικοῦ δὲ τὸ κάτωθεν τμῆμα ὅλον ἁλιευτικόν, ἁλιευτικῆς δὲ πληκτικόν, πληκτικῆς δὲ ἀγκιστρευτικόν᾽ τούτου δὲ τὸ περὶ τὴν κάτωθεν ἄνω 5πληγὴν ἀνασπωμένην, ἀπ᾽ αὐτῆς τῆς πράξεως ἀφο- ς θὲ yy « lod > r \ G θ lal > / JLOLMUEV τουνομᾶ, ἢ νυν GOTTAALEVTLKY) («ἡΤησεισα ἐπι- κλὴν γέγονεν. ΘΕΑΙ. Παντάπασι μὲν οὖν τοῦτό γε ἱκανῶς δεδή.-- λωται. 2. τὸ κάτωθεν] Cf. infr. 266 a. 4. τὸ περὶ τὴν] “ The class which comprised.” Cf. supr. τὸν λόγον περὶ αὐτὸ τοὔργον. 5. ἀπ᾽ αὐτῆς τῆς πράξεως ἀφο- μοιωθὲν τοὔνομα] 1.6. it is pro- posed to derive ἀσπαλιεύς from See also Tim. Lex. 52: ἀσπαλιεὺς, ἁλιεὺς, ἀπὸ τοῦ ἀνασπᾷν τὴν ἄγραν. Hesychius has preserved the real deriva- tion from ἄσπαλος, an Athama- τέχνη (ποιητική)- --ἰ-- κτητική ἀνασπάω. (μεταβλητική) ---ἰ---κειρωτική (ἀγωνιστικη) ---ἰ - θηρευτική nian word for ‘fish.’ (Passow Lexie. 5. v.) 6. ἡ νῦν ἀσπαλιευτικὴ ζητη- θεῖσα] 1.6. ἀσπαλιευτικὴ, ἡ νῦν ζητηθεῖσα. Cf. infr. 231 b: ἐν τῷ viv λόγῳ παραφανέντι.Ἡ Note the apposition of neuter and fem. : τὸ mepi—n «.7.d., and of the name with the thing: τοῦὔ- νομα with ἡ ἀσπαλιευτικήῆ. The following is a summary of the above divisions : (θήρα τῶν ἀψυχῶν)---ἰ--- ζωοθηρική (πεζοθηρικη)- -ἰ--- ἐνυγροθηρική (ὀρνιθευτικη)----ἰ -ἁλιευτική (ἑρκοθηρικη)---ἰ--- πληκτική 8. Παντάπασι μὲν οὖν τοῦτό γε ἱκανῶς δεδήλωται] The method of dichotomies has proved ade- quate for the definition of an art so simp'e and familiar as that of the angler. The notion of the Sophist, however, is more complex, and after several par- tial attempts, the definition of him is found to be impracti- cable, until we lay aside this (πυρευτικήη)---ἰ---ἀγκιστρευτική (τριοδοντία)- -ἰ--- ἀσπαλιευτική. method for a time and review some of our fundamental ideas. It is difficult to say how far the first or tentative part of the inquiry is seriously intended by Plato as an illustration or application of method. There is a tinge of satirical humour obvious in almost every line. This was the motive for the choice of the angler as an ex- ΣΟΦΙΣΤῊΣ. D5 — , ῃ \ σι \ ΄ ΞΕ, Depe On, κατὰ τοῦτο τὸ παράδειγμα καὶ τὸν \ > ΄σ « o vA P yy σοφιστὴν ἐπιχειρῶμεν εὑρεῖν, ὃ TL ποτ᾽ ἐστιν ; ΘΕΑΙ. Κομιδῇ μὲν οὖν. μ-- Ν Χ > tas te eh ey \ or ΄ ΞΕ. Καὶ μὴν ἐκεῖνο y ἣν τὸ ζήτημα πρῶτον, , ’ , SA / 4 7 5 πότερον ἰδιώτην ἡ τινα τέχνην e€xovTa θετέον εἶναι: \ > / Tov ἁσπαλιευτην. OEAI. Ναί. SE. Καὶ viv δὴ τοῦτον ἰδιώτην θήσομεν, ὦ Θεαί- Ἃ 7 « λ θ las , δ THTE, ἢ πανταπασιν ὡς ἀληθῶς σοφιστὴν ; ΘΕΑΙ. Οὐδαμῶς ἰδιώτην: μανθάνω γὰρ ὃ λέγεις, ὡς %K \ ΕΙΣ va 7 5 i? yy lal yf σαντος δεῖ TOLOUTOS ELVQAL TO γε ονομὰ τοῦτο έεέχων. 7 5 \ Css J « EE. ᾿Αλλά τινα τέχνην αὐτὸν ἡμῖν ἔχοντα, ὡς y lA ἔοικε, θετέον. ample, this prompts the in- clusion of war and tyranny, pleading and arguing, under θηρευτική, and that of poetry and learning amongst the mer- chant’s wares, and the defini- tion of higgling in the market as an inartistic kind of con- troversy. A deeper irony un- derlies the admission of the Sophist’s claim to be considered as a purifier of the soul. Yet inseparably bound up with this tone of sarcasm there is the scientific spirit, which seeks for general truths and disregards common opinion. The defini- tion of the tyrant or the war- rior as a hunter of men falls in with Plato’s satiric fancy, but has also an element of scientific truth, and belongs to the effort to connect things apparently diverse under one idea. This mixture of satire and inquiry finds characteristic expression in intr. 2277" Ὁ: τοῦ κτήσασθαι γὰρ ἕνεκα νοῦν πασῶν τεχνῶν τὸ ξυγγενὲς καὶ τὸ μὴ ξυγγενὲς κατανοεῖν πειρωμένη (ἡ τῶν λόγων τέχνη) τιμᾷ πρὸς τοῦτο ἐξ ἴσου πάσας-- σεμνότερον δέ τι τὸν διὰ στρατηγικῆς ἢ φθειριστικῆς δηλοῦντα θηρευτικὴν οὐδὲν νενό- μικεν, ἀλλ᾽ ὡς τὸ πολὺ χαυνότερον. 8. Καὶ νῦν δὴ] “So now also.” καὶ to be taken closely with νῦν. 9. ὡς ἀληθῶς σοφιστήν] The word here approaches the an- cient meaning of “ contriver,” = clever, one. < skilled prac= titioner.” 11. *zavros* dei] The MSS. vary between πάντως and ov πάντως, the latter of which has grown out of the former. A further corruption (II) is τοιοῦ- tov—rov—eyovra. The correc- tion is due to the Zurich edi- tors. For παντὸς dei, cf. Aesch. Prom. 961 : παντὸς ἐλλείπω. πολλοῦ γε καὶ τοῦ ib. 1008 : τοῦ παντὸς δέω. τό γε ὄνομα τοῦτο ἔχων] “Since he bears this name.” Cf. Polit. 260 ¢: δεσπόζοντά γε. Following this exam- ple let us endeayour to find the nature of the Sophist also, σι Ts he an artist, as the fisher- man was 7 10 His name declares him to be, par excel- lence, an artist. But his relation to the angler does not end here. They are bothsports- men; and each pur- sues a cer- tain living prey. From this point their 26 MAATQNO2 SEAL. Tiva wor οὖν δὴ ταύτην ; EE. Ap’ ὦ πρὸς θεῶν ἠγνοήκαμεν τἀνδρὸς τὸν ἄνδρα ὄντα ξυγγενῆ ; OEAI. Τίνα τοῦ ; 5 BE. Τὸν ἀσπαλιευτὴν τοῦ σοφιστοῦ. ΘΕΑῚ In; EE. Θηρευτά τινε καταφαίνεσθον ἄμφω μοι. ΘΕΑΙ. Tivos θήρας ἅτερος : τὸν μὲν γὰρ ἕτερον εἴπομεν. ιο (ΞΕ. Δίχα ποὺ νῦν διείλομεν τὴν ἄγραν πᾶσαν, νευ-- στικοῦ μέρους, τὸ δὲ πεζοῦ τέμνοντες. OEAI. Nai. EE. Kai τὸ μὲν διήλθομεν, ὅσον περὶ τὰ νευστικὰ τῶν ἐνύδρων" τὸ δὲ πεζὸν εἰάσαμεν ἄσχιστον. εἰπόν- 15 TES ὅτι πολυειδὲς εἴη. ΘΕΑΙ. Tavu γε. EE. Μέχρι μὲν τοίνυν ἐνταῦθα ὃ σοφιστής τε καὶ ὁ ἀσπαλιευτὴς ἅμα ἀπὸ τῆς κτητικῆς τέχνης πορεύ- εσθον. 20 GEAT. ᾿Βοίκατον γοῦν. HE. ᾿Εκτρέπεσθον δέ γε ἀπὸ τῆς ζωοθηρικῆς, ὃ 2. τἀνδρὸς τὸν ἄνδρα! Cf. τὸ δ᾽ αὔξει. Eurip. Hippolyt. Rep. 5, 455 d: τὸ γένος τοῦ 233, 4. Theet. 181 ἃ. Legg. yevous. 12, 954 d: ἐκτημένος, ὁ δὲ 10. νῦν διείλομεν] Cf. Theset. ζητῶν, alib. Phileb. 56 d: ἄλλην, 159 ¢, νῦν διήλθομεν, where τὴν δὲ ἄλλην; Polit. 291 6: there is the same variation οἵ τυραννίδι, τὸ δὲ βασιλικῆ. Pheed. MSS.; some inserting δὴ, which 105 6. Bodl. and A πεζόν. on account of 8 succeeding 21. Ἐκτρέπεσθον] “Their paths may very possibly have dropped diverge when they have reach- out. ed the art of animal-hunting, νευστικοῦ μέρους, TO δὲ πεζοῦ] the one turning to the sea- For the omission of τὸ μὲν, ΒΟ shore and to rivers and lakes, is present in some MSS., com- [0 angle for the creatures that pare Soph. Trach. 117: τρέφει, ave therein.” Pp. 2206 |p? p. 222 ΣΟΦΙΣΊΗΣ. 27 | Ce eran ΄ ΄ \ N ᾽ Np. 222. μὲν ἐπὶ θάλατταν που καὶ ποταμοὺς καὶ λίμνας, τὰν / πο , τούτοις ζῶα Onpevoopevos. ΘΕΑΙ. Τί μήν; — c , ᾽ \ A \ ε ΞΕ. ‘O δέ γε ἐπὶ τὴν γῆν καὶ ποταμοὺς ἑτέρους 53 / , A / © a 5] / αὖ τινὰς, πλουτου καὶ νεότητος οἷον λειμῶνας αφθο- / / / vous, τὰν τούτοις θρέμματα χειρωσόμενος. OEAI. Πῶς λέγεις ; ΞΕ. Τῆς πεζῆς θήρας γίγνεσθον δύο μεγίστω τινὲ μέρη. ΘΕΑΙ. Ποῖον ἑκάτερον : I. mov gives the touch of conscious indefiniteness in which the preciseness of the Greek language delights. 4. Ὃ δέ ye ἐπὶ τὴν ynv—] “To very different rivers of wealth, and rich meadow-lands of generous youth.” Lit. “to rivers of wealth, a different sort of rivers.” This punctu- ation avoids the confusion of the two metaphors (river and meadow) and preserves the appropriateness of each. For the former, cf. Alsch. Prom. 805 : ol χρυσόρρυτον οἰκοῦσιν ἀμφὶ νᾶμα Πλούτωνος πόρου, where the notion of abundance is associated with the image of golden sands ; and for the latter, Soph. Trach. 143: τὸ yap νέαζον ἐν τοιοῖσδε βύσκεται χώροισιν αὑτοῦ. For the metaphorical use of the word ποταμός to denote abundance, cf. also Tim. 43 a: ai δὲ εἰς ποταμὸν ἐνδεθεῖσαι πο- λύν.---νἱχ. the flux of corporeal particles in the body. The word λειμῶνας is naturally sug- gested by the notion of a fer- tilizing river with green banks, E and perhaps partly by a false echo from λίμνας preceding. 8. Ths πεζῆς θήρας κιτ.λ.] The description of θηρευτική in Legg. 7, 823 b should be compared, line by line, with this passage : θήρα yap παμπολύ τι πρᾶγμά ἐστι, περιειλημμένον ὀνόματι νῦν σχεδὸν ἑνί. πολλὴ μὲν γὰρ ἡ τῶν ἐνύδρων, πολλὴ δὲ ἡ τῶν πτηνῶν, παμπολὺ δὲ καὶ τὸ περὶ τὰ πεζὰ θηρεύματα, οὐ μόνον θηρίων, ἀλλὰ καὶ τὴν τῶν ἀνθρώπων ἄξιον ἐννοεῖν θήραν, τὴν τε κατὰ πόλεμον, πολλὴ δὲ καὶ 7 κατὰ φιλίαν θηρεύουσα, ἡ μὲν ἔπαι- νον, ἡ δὲ ψόγον ἔχει" καὶ κλωπεῖαι, καὶ ληστῶν καὶ στρατοπέδων στρα- τοπέδοις θῆραι. γίγνεσθον] Bodl. Vat. Ven. II, γιγνέσθω, which might be defended from εἴπωμεν follow- ing. But the word is explana- tory of ἐκτρέπεσθον in what precedes, and the v is more likely to have been dropped than to have been inserted wrongly, especially considering the ὁμοιοτέλευτον of μεγίστω. The θήρα τῶν ἡμέρων is termed μέγιστον as including στρατηγία, ληστική, δικανική, ἐρωτική, κολα- κική, σοφιστική. 9 ke paths di- verge. The angler seeks the rivers, lakes, and teeming seas. The 5 Sophist turns him to the land: or if to rivers they are the rivers of wealth, which nourish : ] teous pounteous pastures of generous youth, Now land animals are tame and wild ; and, if man is a tame crea- ture, tame creatures also can be made a prey. ΠΛΑΤΏΩΝΟΣ. ΞῈ Τὸ \ cal « 7 Ν δὲ “ ’ / pe Ld O μὲν τῶν μερῶν, TO OE Τῶν αγριων. ΘΕΑΙ. Εἶτ᾽ ἔστι τις θήρα τῶν ἡμέρων ; EE. Εἰ πέρ γέ ἐστιν ἄνθρωπος ἥμερον ζῶον. θὲς δὲ σ / 7 δὲ θ Ν “ », LAD € ὅπῃ χαίρεις, εἴτε μηδὲν τιθεὶς ἥμερον, εἴτε ἄλλο \ “ / Ν \ 2, ΒΩ + aS 5 MEV ἥμερον TL, TOV δὲ ἄνθρωπον ἀγριον, εἴτε ἥμερον Ν re 5 ‘ 357 θ > 6 / δὲ ὃ / μέν eyels αὖυ TOV ἂν βῶτπον, αν ρώπων ε μηοεμιᾶαν ἡγεῖ θήραν. τούτων Τὁπότερ᾽ | av ἡγεῖ φίλον εἰρῆσθαί rn id ΄σ / σοι, τοῦτο ἡμῖν διόρισον. 2. εἶτα expresses surprise. Cf. Thezet. 207 d. 3. El πέρ γέ ἐστιν ἀνθ. jy. {.} This is not always fully ad- mitted. See Theet. 174 ἃ: δυσκολώτερον δὲ ἐκείνων ζῶον καὶ ἐπιβουλότερον ποιμαίνειν τε καὶ βδάλλειν νομίζει αὐτούς. Lege. 6, 766 a: ΓΑνθρωπὸς δέ, ὥς φαμεν, ἥμερον, ὅμως μὴν παιδείας μὲν ὀρθῆς τυχὸν καὶ φύσεως εὐτυχοῦς θειότατον ἡμερώτατόν τε ζῶον γίγ- νεσθαι φιλεῖ, μὴ ἱκανῶς δὲ ἢ μὴ καλῶς τραφὲν ἀγριώτατον ὁπόσα φύει γῆ. Cf. Xen. Cyr. 1. 1, κ 2: πάσας τοίνυν τὰς ἀγέλας ταύτας ἐδοκοῦμεν ὁρᾷν μᾶλλον ἐθελούσας πείθεσθαι τοῖς νομεῦσιν ἢ τοὺς ἀνθρώπους τοῖς ἄρχουσι. For τιθεὶς --- λέγεις, οἵ, supr. 221 ἃ, and note. 7. Ἡόπότερ᾽ Ὑ av ἡγεῖ φίλον ei- ρῆσθαί σοι] The plural ὁπότερα, with φίλον and τοῦτο following, is difficult ; and the word im- plies two, whereas there are three if not four alternatives. Badham’s conjecture, 6 τι περ ἂν (cf. infr. 255 a, Lege. 1, 645 c), is probably right. ἡγεῖ is the Bodleian reading ; ἂν is to be taken with εἰρῆσθαι φίλον σοι: ““ Whichever of these alterna- tives you think will please you when spoken.” Com- pare infr. 223 b: τὸ προσῆκον ὄνομ᾽ ἂν ἡγοῦμαι καλεῖν αὐτόν. There is no objection to the repetition of the same word ἡγεῖ in a somewhat different connexion ; cf. Theet. 148 b: οὐκ ἂν δυναίμην---ὥσπερ περὶ--- τῆς δυνάμεως. 8110. 8. τοῦτο ἡμῖν διόρισον] The Bodleian and the cognate MSS. (including Flor. 1.) have διορι- This could only mean, “Whichever of these alterna- tives you think will please you, this we must decide upon.” But this reading, though not altogether absurd (ef. Polit. 261 6: καθάπερ διακελεύεις ποιητέον), may probably be classed amongst those which, although occurring in the best MSS., are traceable to the wrong-headed ingenuity of the scribes, like ἐξαίσιοι σοφοί for ἑξῆς of σοφοί in Theet. 152 6 (Bodl.), ἀκριβῶν for ἄκρων, 10. 148 ὁ. (Bodl. Δ. π.) The impe- rative is required by θὲς pre- ceding. For τοῦτο ἡμῖν διόρισον, οἵ, Gorg. 488 d: τοῦτό μοι αὐτὸ σαφῶς διόρισον, ταὐτὸν ἢ ἕτερόν ἐστι τὸ κρεῖττον καὶ τὸ βέλτιον καὶ τὸ ἰσχυρότερον. Rep. fo, 5088: "Apa οἷα ἔστιν ἢ οἷα φαί-- νεται; τοῦτο γὰρ ἔτι διόρισον. ΄ στεον. Pp. 222: [}1} ΣΟΦΙΣΤῊΣ. 29 p. 222. OEAI. AAX ἡμᾶς τε ἥμερον, ὦ ἕένε, ἡγοῦμαι “ Gov, θήραν τε ἀνθρώπων εἶναι λέγω. EE. Διττὴν τοίνυν καὶ τὴν ἡμεροθηρικὴν εἴπωμεν. ΘΕΑΙ. Kara τί λέγοντες ; ὑστν ἊΝ \ Χ > \ BE. Thv μὲν λῃστικὴν καὶ ἀνδραποδιστικὴν καὶ 5. This hap- \ \ / \ ͵, A , pens either τυραννικὴν καὶ ξύμπασαν THY πολεμικήν, ἕν πάντα through , , ε ΄ force or βίαιον θηραν ὁρισάμενοι. through ΘΕΑΙ. Καλῶς. persuasion. EE. Τὴν δέ ye δικανικὴν καὶ δημηγορικὴν καὶ ͵ A 5 \ , 7 προσομιλητικήν, ἕν αὖ τὸ ξύνολον πιθανουργικήν το ἃ Twa μίαν τέχνην προσειπόντες. GEAI. ᾿Ορθώς. ia “ ΑΝ la Χ 7 HE. Τῆς δὴ πιθανουργικῆς διττὰ λέγωμεν γένη. — And per- a suasion OEAI. [Iota ; Taye — \ \ 9 \ gl / bli HE. To μὲν ἕτερον ἰδίᾳ, τὸ δὲ δημοσίᾳ γιγνόμενον. 15 brivate.. \ “- = OEAI. Γίψνεσθον yap οὖν εἶδος ἑκάτερον. an 3, a > a \ EE. Οὐκοῦν αὖ τῆς ἰδιοθηρευτικῆς TO μὲν μισθαρ- Persuasion ΣΑΣ NEN , in private VEUTLKOV ἐστι, TO δὲ δωροφορικὸν ; sometimes ΄ seeks re- ΘΕΑΙ. Οὐ μανθάνω. wards, and = a a ee , \ = - » sometimes ZE. Τῇ τῶν ἐρώντων Opa τὸν νοῦν, ὡς ἐοικας; 20 on the ", , contrary οὔπω προσέσχες. ities gifts. 5. Τὴν μὲν ληστικήν---Ἴ Com-_ der one heading. panewateebol, I. 5." Οἵ δὲ ἀπὸ 17. μισθαρνευτικὸν----μισθαρνευ- θήρας ζῶσιν, καὶ θήρας ἕτεροι τικοῦ] I prefer giving the form ἑτέρας, οἷον of μὲν ἀπὸ ληστείας, of the word which appears in οἱ δ᾽ ἀφ᾽ ἁλιείας---οἱ δ᾽ ἀπ᾿ dpvi- all the MSS. (instead of μι- θων ἢ θηρίων ἀγρίων.---Διὸ καὶ ἡ σθαρνητικ.), though suspected by πολεμικὴ φύσει κτητική πως ἔστα' Heindorf, whose dictum (Quod ἡ γὰρ θηρευτικὴ μέρος αὐτῆς, 7 δεῖ ἴῃ Lexicis, auctore nullo, pro- χρῆσθαι πρός τε τὰ θηρία καὶ τῶν — fertur verbum μισθαρνεύειν, val- ἀνθρώπων ὅσοι πεφυκότες ἄρχεσθαι dé vereor ne ἃ sermonis ana- μὴ θέλουσιν. Ἰοριὰ abhorreat) is open to 10. προσομιλητικήν =the art question. Why not μισθαρνεύω of intercourse. The word 15 from μίσθαρνος, ἃ8 καπηλεύω from invented in order to include κάπηλος Still it may be cor- loye-making and sophistry un- rupted from ἰδιοθηρευτ. Lovers, for instance, lavish pre- sents on thosewhom they win. Of mercen- ary persua- sion, one branch allures through pleasure, and, as for hire, ex- pects no more than to be fed. This is called flattery. Another kind pro- fesses to impart virtue, and takes a money fee, What is 30 ΘΕΑΙ. Τοῦ πέρι ; ΠΛΑΤΩ͂ΝΟΣ EE. Ὅτι τοῖς θηρευθεῖσι δῶρα προσεπιδιδόασιν. ΘΈΑΙ. ᾿Αληθέστατα λέγεις. — TY γ fal \ , > ΄σ / y 3 = E. Τοῦτο μὲν τοίνυν ἐρωτικῆς TEXYNS ἐστω εἶδος. OEAI. avy γε. EE. Τοῦ δέ ye μισθαρνευτικοῦ τὸ μὲν προσο- - \ ’ὔ 4 ε lal 4 μιλοῦν διὰ χάριτος Kal παντάπασι δι’ ἡδονῆς τὸ / ’ Ν Ἂν 7 δέλεαρ πεποιημένον καὶ τὸν μισθὸν πραττόμενον \ c r A 7 id » 53 7 Tpopny εαυτῷ μονον κολακικὴν, ὡς ἐγῷμαι, πᾶντες p. 223. ΘΕΑΙ. Πῶς γὰρ οὔ; od x ε / ΄ὔ 5 10 φαῖμεν αν ηδυντικὴν τινα τεχνὴν εἰναι. HE. Τὸ δὲ ἐπαγγελλόμενον μὲν ὡς ἀρετῆς ἕνεκα ἊΝ - / / Ν \ , , Tas ὁμιλίας ποιούμενον, μισθὸν δὲ νόμισμα πραττό- S 5 lal NS 7ὔὕ e / las yy μένον, GPa OV τοῦτο TO γένος ETEPD 7 POO ELTTELV ἄξιον > / 15 OVOLATL 5 OEAI. Πῶς yap οὔ; μκαἰ / \ , qn / i. Te δὴ τούτῳ ; πειρῶ λέγειν. 2. προσεπιδιδόασιν] The pre- positions imply “in addition to all the means employed to win them.” (προσέτι δῶρα yp. 5.B.) 4. ἐρωτικῆς τέχνης --- εἶδος] Gen. of apposition. 6. Τοῦ dé ye μισθαρνευτικού---- εἶναι] “ But that sort of hireling the object of whose commerce is to gratify, and whose lure is baited with any kind of plea- sure, while the only hire which he exacts is sustenance for him- self, I presume we should all - describe as the flatterer, who is one of the sweeteners of life.” 8. πεποιημένον | pf. passive with middle signification. Το. ἡδυντικήν τινα τέχνην] “an art of sweetening.” These words express the function of κολακικὴ more precisely. There is no need of inserting i) before ἥδυντ. with Heindorf and some later editors. Cf. Theet. 175 e: μη- δὲ ὀψὸν ἡδῦναι ἢ θῶπας λόγους, where cookery and flattery seem to be included under ἡδυντικὴ ; and Gorg. 462-465, where however κολακεία is the general word, including ὀψο- ποιΐα, ῥητορικὴ, and the rest. Other instances occur (e. g. μεταβλητικὴ Supr. compared with infr. 224 6) in which the same word has alternately a general and specific meaning. 12. Τὸ δὲ---ὀνόματι] “ But an- other sort, professing to make virtue the end of his inter- course, while exacting his hire in the shape of coin,—is it not worth while to address this kind by a different name ?” β. 223. b ΣΟΦΙΣΤΗ͂Σ. 31 SEAI. Δῆλον 67° τὸν yap σοφιστὴν μοι δοκοῦ- ᾽ (2 ΠΕ 53 " \ \ an μεν ἀνευρηκέναι. TOUT οὖν ἔγωγε εἰπὼν TO προσῆκον 7 a» ς A ΄ > / ὄνομ ἂν ἡγοῦμαι καλεῖν αὐτον. Ν cal 3 - RE. Κατὰ δὴ τὸν νῦν, ὦ Θεαίτητε, λόγον, ὡς 4. Κατὰ δὴ ---θήρα] The obser- vation of Schleiermacher, that there are several redundant words in this passage, was mis- applied by Heindorf and Stall- baum when theyrejected μισθαρ- νικῆς as well as κτητικῆς, πεζοθη- pias, and ἡμεροθηρικῆς. For the science which takes rewards includes the flatterer with the Sophist, who stands alone how- ever in taking his reward in money. The word πεζοθηρίας can hardly be retained, χερ- σαίας being evidently substi- tuted for this with reference to supr. 222 a: ὁ δέ ye ἐπὶ τὴν γῆν. The case of ἡμεροθηρικῆς is somewhat different. For there might be other tame creatures besides man which became the objects of the chase (e.g. pheas- ants and deer in modern times); compare Polit. 262 b. The MSS., however, vary as to the form of the word. χειρωτικῆς, which the edi- tors retain after has very slight authority (Ven. > a OLKEL@TLKNS, τέχνη ποιητική--ἰ-κτητικῆ μεταβλητική.-----ἰ - χειρωτική ἀγωνιστική.------ἰ---θηρευτική Σ᾿ ἈΠῸ Bas, ΠΤ 2. δῦ) Che word is not indispensable ; for οἰκειωτικῆς might be fairly substituted (according to the spirit of the present passage) for χειρωτικῆς, as a softer word —‘“ Convey the wise it call.” We may therefore either read or omit χειρωτικῆς and κτητικῆς, taking οἰκειωτικῆς as a substitute for both. The Stranger is not always quite exact in reca- pitulating. Thus, infr. 224 d, μεταβλητικὴ 18 substituted for ἀλλακτικὴ, and the μεταβλητικὴ of the previous argument is omit- ted. Hence it is unnecessary, with Heindorf and Stallbaum, to supply the missing link m- θανοθηρίας in the present passage. Cf. Polit. 261 e, where such va- riation of terms is justified. meCoOnpias, if genuine, distin- ouishes πεζὰ from πτηνά, χερ- galas, πεζὰ from ἐνυδρά, but x. should then come first. The divisions have been as follows : κτητικῆς, οἰκειωτικῆς, τῶν ἀψύχων----ἰ- - ζωοθηρική ae πεζοθηρική ---- ἐνυγροθηρικὴ ὀρνιθευτική ----ἰ- -- ἁλιευτική τῶν ἀγρίων-ἰ -ἡμεροθηρική βίαιος θήρα--- πιθανουργική ἡ δημοσίᾳ γιγνομένη---ἰ-- ἰδιοθηρευτική ἑρκοθηρική---ἰ--πληκτική πυρευτική---ἰ---ἀγκι στρευτικήὴ ὃ , > , TpLo οντία---ἰ -- ἀσπαλιευτική δωροφορική-----ἰ-----μισθαρνευτικὴ κολακική----ἰ- “σοφιστική. this artist called ? We seem to have found the Sophist. 32 MAATQNOS ἔοικεν, ἡ τέχνης οἰκειωτικῆς, Ἱκτητικῆς |, θηρευτικῆς, p. 223. } ζωοθηρίας, πεζοθηρίας}, χερσαίας, Τὴμεροθηρικῆς , ἀνθρωποθηρίας, ἰδιοθηρίας, μισθαρνικῆς, νομισματο- πωλικῆς, δοξοπαιδευτικῆς, νέων πλουσίων καὶ ἐν- 5 δόξων γιγνομένη θήρα προσρητέον, ὡς ὁ νῦν λόγος ἡμῖν συμβαίνει, σοφιστική. GEAI. Παντάπασι μὲν οὖν. Still let us look at this many-sided creature in EE. "Ere δὲ καὶ τῇδε ἴδωμεν: ov yap τι φαύλης ΄ὔ / 5) ΄ὕ \ 5 ς ͵ ᾽ SES. ΄, μέτοχον ἐστι τέχνης τὸ νῦν ζητουμενον, GAA εὖ para Ν Ν 53 ’ ΄σ / / another το ποικίλης. Kal yap οὖν ἐν τοῖς πρόσθεν εἰρημένοις aspect. 7 » τ ἢ τὰ a hint - sy For the φάντασμα παρέχεται, μὴ τοῦτο Ὁ νῦν αὐτὸ ἡμεῖς divisions Pep oneal SF 7 we have φαμέν, ἀλλ᾽ τερον εἶναι TL γένος. madeattord ΘΕΑΙ. Πῇ δή; 'ΞῈ. To τῆς κτητικῆς τέχνης διπλοῦν ἦν εἶδός an opening for defining him in a different XN \ ΧΝ / vy Ν Se / e 1570U, TO μὲν θηρευτικὸν μέρος ἔχον, TO δὲ ἀλλακτικον. 4. δοξοπαιδευτικῆς] This refers to supr. a: ἐπαγγελλόμενον---- ποιούμενον. καὶ ἐνδόξω)] Cf. Protag. 316 b, where Socrates recom- mends Hippocrates to the con- sideration of Protagoras: ‘In- ποκράτης ὅδε ἐστὶ μὲν τῶν ἐπιχω- ρίων, ᾿Απολλοδώρου υἱός, οἰκίας μεγάλης τε καὶ εὐδαίμονος" αὐτὸς δὲ τὴν φύσιν δοκεῖ ἐνάμιλλος εἶναι τοῖς ἡλικιώταις. ἐπιθυμεῖν δέ μοι δο- κεῖ ἐλλόγιμος γενέσθαι ἐν τῇ πόλει. The use οἵ μέτοχόν ἐστι for μετέχει, like that of the par- ticiple and auxiliary verb noticed above, is in the style of these dialogues. Cf. also Pheedr. 262 d. 7. οὖν] “ In accordance with this remark,” i. e. consistently with the creature’s manifold cunning. 8. τῇδε ἴδωμεν] Bodl. TAATL εἰδῶμεν. This might be de- fended from Thezt. 202 6: But the text pre- sents a more lively image, and is in better accordance with Plato’s usual manner. This corruption is frequent. ΤΙ. φάντ. apex. |“ He (adro,the subject of our inquiry) holds forth the appearance ; leads us to imagine.” No English word exactly corresponds to φάν- τασμα here, which retains the verbal notion: the German Schein is perhaps nearly equi- valent. Cf. Thezt.199 ὁ: δει- νότερον μέντοι πάθος ἄλλο“ παρα- φαίνεσθαί μοι δοκεῖ. AS we re- view the previous argument, the Sophist shews his face to us on the other side of onr division-line. 15. τὸ μὲν Onpevtixov| Here again the recapitulation is not Ἰστέον δή. ΣΟΦΙΣΤΗΣ. 88 p.223. ΘΕΑ͂Ι. Ἢν γὰρ οὗν. kind of ac- quisition ~— Lal 3" lanl ,ὔ »" / BE. THs τοίνυν ἀλλακτικῆς δύο εἴδη λέ- we found to be ex- ἊΝ Ν / Ν oS > youev, TO μὲν δωρητικόν, TO δὲ ἕτερον ἀγορα- change. ’ Property is OTLKOD ; exchanged by gift and ΘΕΑΙ. Ἑϊρήσθω. 5. by sale. EE. Kai μὴν αὖ φήσομεν ἀγοραστικὴν διχῇ τέμ- νεσθαι. ἃ ΘΕΑΙ. Πῇ; \ a 3 c ’ \ SE. Τὴν μὲν τῶν αὐτουργῶν αὐτοπωλικὴν διαι-ὀ ὙΠ seller , \ ie Peele ; x ps is either a ρουμένην, τὴν δὲ Ta ἀλλότρια ἔγρα μεταβαλλομένην το manufac- , turer or a μεταβλητικ nV. merchant. ΘΕΑΙ. Πάνυ ye. BE. Τί δέ; τῆς μεταβλητικῆς οὐχ ἡ μὲν κατὰ The mer- , ᾽ ΄ ᾿ δε τες τ i a chant πολιν adrayn, σχεδὸν αὐτῆς ἥμισυ μέρος ὃν, καπη- either re- alls Or \ , ALK) προσαγορεύεται: 15 exports, CEAI. Nai. quite exact: κτητικὴ was divided -- ὅσοι αὐτουργοί τε καὶ ἀπράγμο- into μεταβλητικὸν ( = ἀλλακτικὸν)ἠ νες, οὐ πάνυ πολλὰ κεκτημένοι. and χειρωτικόν, and χειρωτικὸν 9. διαιρουμένην (passive) an- into ἀγωνιστικὸν and θηρευτικόν. swers better to the question πῇ Supr. 219. (φήσομεν τέμνεσθαι) than διαι- 3. τὸ μὲν δωρητικόν] These ρούμενοι, which is read only in words are suggested by depo- two MSS. of inferior note, and φορικὸν in the previous argu- appears in two others (1B) as ment; the new discussion, ἃ5 a correction. so often in Plato, taking colour 11. μεταβλητικήν] This name from that which precedes. But was previously given to the cf. also supr. 219d: μεταβλητι- whole class which is now called κὸν ὃν διά τε δωρεῶν καὶ ἀγοράσεων. ἀλλακτική. 9. Τὴν μὲν --- διαιρουμένην] 13. τῆς μεταβλητικῆς κ.τ.λ.] «Those who make what they Cf. Ar. Pol. I. 4 : τῆς δὲ μετα- sell being distinguished as βλητικῆς μέγιστον μὲν ἐμπορία. ‘ producers.’ ” 14. σχεδὸν---ἥμισυ] And there- τῶν avtoupyav| Those who fore fit to form our next diyi- manufacture what they sell. sion. The word is used etymologi- καπηλικὴ] The notion of retail eally. The usual meaning is, business in Rep. 371b,c, ἐν αὐτῇ ‘one who farms his own land.’ τῇ πόλει x. τ. A. IS More exact Cf. 6. ο. Rep. 8, 565 a: δῆμος than here. Bod. p.m. : καὶ πηλική. Now the export trader deals in food for the body or in food for the mind, 34 ΠΛΑΤΩΝΟΣ EE. Τὸ δέ γε ἐξ ἄλλης εἰς ἄλλην πόλιν διαλλατ-- p. 223. |! ᾿ Lal ’ / TOMEVOV ὠνῇ καὶ πράσει ἐμπορικὴ ; ΘΕΑΙ. Τί δ᾽ οὔ: ΞΕ. Τῆς δ᾽ ἐμπορικῆς ap οὐκ ἠσθήμεθα ὅτι τὸ 5 / σ Ν al / / Ν δέ spev, ὅσοις τὸ σῶμα τρέφεται ++ κέχρηται, τὸ δέ, ὅσοις ἡ ψυχή, πωλοῦν διὰ νομίσματος ἀλλάττεται ; ΘΕΑΙ. Πῶς τοῦτο λέγεις ; — Ν Ν \ \ STA ΕἸ ΄σ » Ν , EE. To περὶ τὴν ψυχὴν wows ἀγνοοῦμεν, ἐπεὶ TO 4 , , YE €TEPOV ποὺ ξυνίεμεν. ΘΕΑΙ. Ναί. / , EE. Μουσικήν τε τοίνυν ξυνάπασαν λέγωμεν, ἐκ Υ. διαλλαττόμενον] Prob. mid- dle voice, as μεταβαλλόμενον supr., ἀλλάττεται infr. But per- haps passive, like ἀνασπώμενον and other words noticed above. δια signifies ‘transmission,’ as in Rep. 1, 328 a: λαμπαδία ἔχοντες διαδώσουσιν ἀλλήλοις ; 5. κέχρηται] Heindorf changed this into καὶ χρῆται without giving a reason. Stallbaum, who objects to this change, gives καὶ κέχρηται, apparently taking this to be the MS. read- ing. Bekker: “καὶ χρῆται Heindorfius : libri κέχρηται. And so the Bodleian MS., viz. τρέφεται xexpnta. For the perfect, cf. Rep. 3, 409 6, Tim. 65 6. The objection to this is that the seller cannot be said to use that which he sells. Stallbaum’s reading is preferable, if κέχρηται be ren- dered “ stands in need,” 56. αὐτῶν, for which meaning see Legg. 4, 717 ¢. There is a similar difficulty about the reading of Euthyd. 289 a. 8. ἀγνοοῦμεν---ξυνίεμεν})] The first pers. plur. is used with a kind of playful condescension, as in Theet. 210 b: ἢ οὖν ἔτι κυοῦμέν τι καὶ ὠδίνομεν, ὦ φίλε, ἢ πάντα ἐκτετόκαμεν ; 11. Μουσικήν ----παρασχεῖν] A somewhat awkward sentence, where, as in supr. 219 b, πᾶν ὅπερ k.T.A., the end does not seem to have been clearly seen from the beginning. The con- struction is, however, clear. “ Speaking of all music, and painting, and juggling, and many other things which are carried about and sold, some for the delectation, and some for the serious purposes of the mind, let us say that when bought in one place and carried elsewhere to be sold, they give to him who carries and sells them, quite equally with the sale of food and drink, a just title to the name of merchant.” Besides the general irregularity of the sentence, the concrete μουσική — ὠνηθεῖσα is made parallel to the abstract σιτίων -πρᾶσις. For the use of mape- ᾿ | ! ΣΟΦΙΣΤῊΣ. $5 , ΦΙΣΟ ᾿ , "7 4 ᾿ lal Ρ. 224. πόλεως εκάστοτε εἰς πόλιν ἔνθεν μὲν ὠνηθεῖσαν, b Cees: \ 3 / Ν / Ν ἑτέρωσε δὲ ἀγομένην καὶ πιπρασκομένην, καὶ γραφι- \ Ν \ Ν ιν 1. a “ κὴν καὶ θαυματοποιικὴν καὶ πολλὰ ἕτερα τῆς Ψυχῆς, \ \ ‘ \ \ \ ia id ’ / τὰ μεν παραμυθίας, Ta δὲ καὶ σπουδῆς χαριν ἀχθέντα Ἂν / Ν yf Ν “ \ καὶ πωλούμενα, τὸν ἄγοντα καὶ πωλοῦντα μηδὲν 5 iy an a / “ ’, yA ἧττον τῆς τῶν σιτίων καὶ ποτῶν πράσεως ἔμπορον ὀρθῶς ἂν λεγόμενον παρασχεῖν. ΘΕΑΙ. ᾿Αληθέστατα λέγεις. = 3 a x [2 / HE. Οὐκοῦν καὶ τὸν μαθήματα Evywvovpevov / » , , ’ / Seas πόλιν TE ἐκ πόλεως νομίσματος ἀμείβοντα ταὐτὸν το “ 7 προσερεῖς ὄνομα; ΘΕΑΙ. Σφόδρα γε. EE. Τῆς δὴ ψυχεμπορικῆς ταύτης ap οὐ τὸ μὲν χειν, οἵ, Pheedr. 238 a: καὶ τούτων τῶν ἰδεῶν ἐκπρεπὴς ἡ ἂν τυχῇ γενο- μένη τὴν αὑτῆς ἐπωνυμίαν ὀνομα- ζόμενον τὸν ἔχοντα παρέχεται. In the mention of painting and juggling there is probably a tacit anticipation of pp. 234, 5, where the art of the Sophist is compared to both. For the two genitives ψυχῆς mapa- μυθίας χάριν, cf. Rep. 7, 525 6: οὐκ ὠνῆς οὐδὲ πράσεως χάριν ὡς ἐμπόρους ἢ καπήλους μελετῶντας, ἀλλ᾽ αὐτῆς τῆς ψυχῆς, ῥᾳστώνης τε μεταστροφῆς (sc. αὐτῆς) ἐπ᾽ ἀλήθειάν τε καὶ οὐσίαν. 9. μαθήματα ξυνων.) I. 6. Buying knowledge from all quarters. 10, πόλιν----ἐκ πόλεως] “And exchanges them from one city to another for money.” The former of the two prepositions is dropped, as in Asch. Prom. 682: γῆν πρὸ γῆς ἐλαύνομαι. Compare Polit. 289 6: τά τε γεωργίας καὶ τὰ τῶν ἄλλων τεχνῶν ἔργα διακομίζοντες ἐπ᾽ ἀλλήλους καὶ ἀνισοῦντες, οἱ μὲν κατ᾽ ἀγορὰς οἱ δὲ πόλιν ἐκ πόλεως ἀλλάττοντες κατὰ θάλασσαν καὶ πεζῇ, νόμισμά τε πρὸς τάλλα καὶ αὐτὸ πρὸς αὑτὸ διαμείβοντες. Heindorf renders in both passages, “ exchanging one city for another.” But in this case π. ε. 7. vou. ἀμ. could only mean “ being induced by a money payment to change their abode,” which is plainly not intended here. Hence Stallbaum’s objection to vopic- ματος. In Apol. 37 d, ἄλλην ἐξ ἄλλης πόλεως ἀμειβομένῳ, it is observable that the middle voice is used; οἵ, however, Legg. 760 c. The meaning is the same as supr. 223 e: ἐξ ἄλλης eis ἄλλην πόλιν διαλλαττό- 2248: ἐκ πόλεως-----οἰς πόλιν----πιπρασκο- μένην. For λέγωμεν, οἵ. Thet. 159 a: λέγωμεν δὴ ἐμέ τε καὶ σὲ καὶ τἄλλ᾽ ἤδη κατὰ τὸν αὐτὸν λόγον. 13. Τῆς δὴ----ἀνάγκη] “Well, of this mental merchandize one y μενον @vn καὶ πράσει. Ε 2 And the trade in mental wares is conducted either through eloquent display, or the com- munication of points of 5 learning. And the learning thus bar- tered may concern the arts, or virtue. The pur- veyor of arts may be called an art- seller: but what name is appli- cable to the seller of virtue ? The name of Sophist alone. 15 Io ᾽ \ , 7 ao Ν Ν la ‘ ἐπιδεικτικὴ δικαιότατα λέγοιτ᾽ ἄν, TO δὲ γελοῖον μὲν p, 224, I ΠΛΑΤΏΝΟΣ > a a , 5 \ , 5 οὐχ ἧττον τοῦ πρόσθεν, ὅμως δὲ μαθημάτων οὖσαν χ γὴν ἀδελφῷ tl τῇ (ξ \VOMATL πρᾶσιν αὐτὴν ἀδελφῷ τινὶ τῆς πράξεως ονοὸμ lal 4 προσειπεῖν UVAYKN 5 ΘΕΑΙ. Πάνυ μὲν οὖν. σ΄ lal Ν ‘ EE. Ταύτης τοίνυν τῆς μαθηματοπωλικῆς τὸ Mev Ν \ a 5) χω / εἰ. Ν δὲ περὶ τὰ τῶν ἄλλων τεχνῶν μαθήματα ετέρῳ, TO OE \ Ν al > a yy / περὶ TO τὴς apeTns ἄλλῳ προσρήητεον. ΘΕΑΙ. Πώς γὰρ ov ; \ ΄ 53 δ EE. Τεχνοπωλικὸν μὴν to γε περὶ τάλλα ἂν « / Ν \ ἂν A \ / / apwoTTo’ τὸ δὲ περὶ ταῦτα σὺ προθυμηθητι λέγειν yy ονομα. ΘΕΑΙ. Καὶ τί τις ἂν ἄλλο ὄνομα εἰπὼν οὐκ ἂν / \ \ ΄σ 7 Sa 5 ἈΝ πλημμελοίη πλὴν τὸ νῦν ζητούμενον αὐτὸ εἶναι τὸ Ν ,ὔ σοφιστικὸν γένος ; EE. Οὐδὲν ἄλλο. By ΄ ’ > 7 ἴθι νυν συναγάγωμεν αυτο.- λέγοντες ὡς τὸ κτητικῆς, μεταβλητικῆς, ἀγοραστικῆς, kind might be most fairly term- ed the art of display : but there ig another, which will sound no less oddly than the last, but yet, as dealing in learned ware, it must be called by some name which smacks of learn- ing.” Heind. and Stallb. think that γελοῖον applies to the name μαθηματοπωλικὴ as com- pared with ψυχεμπορική, and suggest γελοίῳ. The interpre- tation is probably right, but the emendation is unnecessary. (13.) ψυχεμπορικῆς} The word calls up the same contemptible association which is contained in puxayoyia. Compare also the expression of Soph. Antig. 1063: ὡς μὴ ἐμπολήσων ἴσθι τὴν ἐμὴν φρένα. 7. ἑτέρῳ --- ἄλλῳ] For the variety, cf. Theet. 85 ὦ: ἃ δὲ ἑτέρας δυνάμεως αἰσθάνει, ἀδύνα- τον Ot ἄλλης ταῦτ᾽ αἰσθέσθαι. alib. IO. τὸ περὶ τἄλλα] Cf. τὸ περὶ τὴν----πληγὴν, Supr. 221 Ὁ. ἂν ἁρμόττοι] προσειπεῖν must be repeated in thought. 14. αὐτὸ εἶναι] Pleonastic re- sumption. 16. Οὐδὲν ἄλλο] Se. εἰπὼν οὐκ ἂν πλημμελοίη. In the follow- ing recapitulation μεταβλητικὴ is again used for ἀλλακτικὴ, and the distinction between αὐτοπωλικὴ and ἀλλακτικὴ is omitted, al- though alluded to in the next sentence. 17. μεταβλητικῆς} Bodl. pera- βλητικὸν, which is, however, probably taken from a few lines below. ΣΟΦΙΣΤΗΣ. 37 Pp. 224. ἐμπορικῆς, ψυχεμπορικῆς περὶ λόγους καὶ μαθήματα : ἀρετῆς πωλητικὸν δεύτερον ἀνεφάνη σοφιστική. ΘΕΑΙ. Mada γε. 53 > > ᾽ A HE. Τρίτον δέ γ᾽ οἶμαί σε, κἂν εἴ τις αὐτοῦ The same λ ὃ ; ΩΝ τ Σ 7 ᾿ ᾿ « [5 found to καθιδρυμένος ἐν πόλει, τὰ μὲν ὠνούμενος, τὰ δὲ καὶ 5 apply, , SUN , R κ᾿ τ pe thirdly, to τεκταινόμενος αὐτὸς μαθηματα περὶ τὰ αὐτὰ ταῦτα the home \ a » , \ a aay, a merchant καὶ πωλῶν, ἐκ τούτου TO ζῆν προὐτάξατο, καλεῖν ον manu > ” Wg a , facturer οὐδὲν ἄλλο πλὴν ὕπερ νῦν δή. of learned stores, » Υ OEAI. Τί δ᾽ οὐ μέλλω ; Χ lal fo / HE. Καὶ τὸ κτητικῆς ἄρα μεταβλητικὸν, wyopa- το , N oy > 7 > ,ὕ “ 7 6 OTLKOY, καπηλικὸν ETE αὐτοπωλικον, ἀμφοτέρως, ὁ τί EN 5. \ la \ / περ ἂν ἢ περὶ TA τοιαῦτα μαθηματοπωλικὸν γένος, ῬῬ. 225. PENN \ ta) e / / ἀεὶ OV προσερεῖς, ὡς φαίνει, σοφιστικον. @EAL. ᾿Ανάγκη" τῷ γὰρ λόγῳ δεῖ συνακολουθεῖν. \ > f “ / EE. “Ere δὴ σκοπῶμεν, εἴ τινι τοιῷδε προσέοικεν 15 7 χ Ξ , , ἄρα TO νῦν μεταδιωκόμενον γένος. ΘΕΑΙ. Ποίῳ dy ; HE. Τῆς κτητικῆς ἀγωνιστική τι μέρος ἡμῖν ἦν. 4. κἂν εἴ τις αὐτοῦ καθιδρυ- μένος ἐν πόλει] The former de- finition included all the greater Sophists (including Zeno, see 1 Ale. 119 a), this applies to some lesser lights, such as Anti- phon, and Damon the musician, perhaps to Antisthenes, though it is not certain that he taught for pay. Cf. Men. 92 b (Any- tus’ speech) : εἴτε τις ξένος ἐπι- χειρεῖ τοιοῦτόν τι ποιεῖν εἴτε ἀστός. 5. τὰ δὲ καὶ τεκταινόμενος] 1.6. αὐτουργὸς ὧν τῶν μαθημάτων. 6. περὶ τὰ αὐτὰ ταῦτα]! Se. τὰ τῆς ἀρετῆς: 80 also π. τὰ τοιαῦτα infr. II. καπηλικὸν εἴτε αὐτοπωλι- κόν] This alternative is justi- fied by the words ra pev— αὐτὸς in the preceding sen- tence. Cf. Protag. 313 ¢: 6 σοφιστὴς ---- ἔμπορύς τις ἢ κά- πηλος. The distinction between καπηλικὴ and αὐτοπωλικὴ (as a part of peraBAnrikn) has been taught above, p. 223 d. 13. ὡς φαίνει] Cf. Rep. 3, 389 δι: οὐκ ἀποδεκτέον κατὰ τὸν σὸν Εἰ σύ, ἔφη, βούλει ἐμὸν τιθέναι, οὐ γὰρ οὖν δὴ ἀποδεκτέον. 14. λόγῳ] Bodl. AT. λογικῷ. This corruption is no doubt due to the frequency of the same termination in what precedes. 18. ἀγωνιστική] Supr. 219 6. Distinguished from θηρευτική as the violent from the secret mode of appropriation without contract. λόγον. Once more, dividing violent conquest, which was a portion of acquisi- tive art, into emula- tion and contention: we see that bodily con- tention is the art of quelling by force. Logical contention, on the other hand, is the art of contro- versy- Contro- versy is either forensic, being held through long speeches in public on questions of right, or disputa- tious, con- sisting of short ques- tions and answers in private. oO JIC ΘΕΑΙ. Ἦν yap οὖν. ΠΛΑΤΏΝΟΣ ἜΞΗ Οὐ yy / / ’ Ν ὃ “ » \ “ὦ. UK απὸ τΤροτποὺ Τοινὺυν €OTL οιαίρειν αὐτὴν δίχα. SEAI. Καθ᾿ ὁποῖα λέγε. Ν « lad EE. To μὲν ἁμιλλητικὸν αὐτῆς τιθέντας, τὸ δὲ μαχητικόν. ΘΕΑΙ. Ἔστιν. EE. Τῆς τοί ἧς τῷ μὲν σώ ὸ ey Hse nS TOLVUY μαχητΤιΚης T@ μεν σώμᾶτι προς / / Ν TEN / » σώματα γιγνομένῳ σχεδὸν εἰκὸς καὶ πρέπον ὄνομα GEAI. Nai. 7 a ,ὕ - , Io λέγειν Tl TOLOUTOV τιθεμένους OLOV βιαστικον. EE. Τῷ δὲ λόγοις πρὸς λόγους τί τις, ὦ Θεαί- τητε, ἄλλο εἴπῃ πλὴν ἀμφισβητητικόν ; ΘΈΑΙ. Οὐδέν. EE. Τὸ δέ γε περὶ τὰς ἀμφισβητήσεις θετέον διττόν. ΘΕΑΙ. Πῇ; aE K θ᾽ “ \ Ν᾽ / 4 , Ν Hi. Kal οσον μεν yap γιγνεται μηκεσι τε προς 3 7, / ΄ Ν aN Χ , Ν y+ ἐναντία pnkn λόγων καὶ περὶ Ta δίκαια Kal ἀδικα , ͵ 20 δημοσίᾳ, δικανικον. ΘΕΑΙ. Nai. 2. ἅπο] So the Bodleian MS. here as in Theet. 143 ¢. 5. Τὸ μὲν ἁμιλλητικὸν----τὸ δὲ μαχητικόν ἢ Perhaps there is here the germ of the fine thought which is more fully expressed in Legg. 5, 731 a: φιλονεικείτω δὲ ἡμῖν πᾶς πρὸς ἀρετὴν ἀφθόνως. ὁ μὲν γὰρ τοιοῦτος τὰς πόλεις αὔξει, ἁμιλλώμενος μὲν αὐτὸς, τοὺς ἄλλους δὲ οὐ κολούων διαβολαῖς. Cf. Criti. τορ Ὁ: Θεοὶ --- ἅπασαν γῆν --- διελάγχανον, οὐ κατ᾽ ἔριν. 9. γιγνομένῳ] Cf. supr. 220 e. 10. λέγειν ---- τιθεμένου] A periphrasis for τίθεσθαι. “To use some such name, assign- ing it.” For τίθεσθαι in this sense, cf. Theet. 157 ¢: ᾧ--- ἄνθρωπον----τίθενται. 12. λόγοις πρὸς λόγους] Se. γιγνομένῳ. 18. Καθ᾿ ὅσον μὲν γὰρ] γὰρ not only answers the question, but, in doing so, gives a reason for the previous statement. 19. περὶ τὰ δίκαια καὶ ἄδικα] These words apply also to the next division. Pp. 225%) ΣΟΦΙΣΤΗΣ. 99 — Ν ’ / 3 ΄, ΞΕ. Τὸ δ᾽ ἐν ἰδίοις αὖ καὶ κατακεκερματισμένον » / ἊΝ ᾽ / fad νὼ cS ἐρωτήσεσι πρὸς ἀποκρίσεις μῶν εἰθίσμεθα καλεῖν ἄλλο πλὴν ἀντιλογικόν ; ΘΕΑΙ. Οὐδέν. — a \ - Ν / σ Ν \ BE. Τοῦ δὲ ἀντιλογικοῦ τὸ μέν, ὅσον περὶ TAs , la) > σὰ \ ΄ ξυμβόλαια ἀμφισβητεῖται μέν, εἰκῇ δὲ καὶ ἀτέχνως Ν / a / \ 5 » / περὶ αὐτὸ πράττεται, ταῦτα θετέον μὲν εἰδος, ἐπείπερ πῶς / e “ Ἃ ε ,ὔ x N > αὐτὸ διέγνωκεν ὡς ἕτερον ὃν ὁ AOYos, aTap ἐπωνυ- Ms “ 2} A a « ᾽ μίας οὔθ᾽ ὑπὸ τῶν ἔμπροσθεν ἔτυχεν οὔτε νῦν ὑφ « a lod 5, ἡμῶν τυχεῖν aELOV. ΘΕΑΙ. ᾿Αληθῆ: κατὰ σμικρὰ γὰρ λίαν καὶ παν- τοδαπὰ διήρηται. BE. Τὸ δέ γε ἔντεχνον, καὶ περὶ δικαίων αὐτῶν , Ν = A 7 3 a καὶ ἀδίκων καὶ περὶ τῶν ἄλλων ὅλως ἀμφισβητοῦν, 3» » » Ν 53 ’ὔ ».7 ap οὐκ ἐριστικον αὖ λέγειν εἰθισμεθα ; I. κατακεκερματισμένον --- ἀπο- κρίσει] The construction fol- lows μήκεσι πρὸς ἐναντία μήκη λόγων, by a sort of zeugma, since the dative (of the man- ner) is more natural with y- γνόμενον than μένον. 5. Τοῦ δὲ ἀντιλογικοῦ---διήρη- ται] “Νον of controversy that which consists of disputes about contracts, conducted in a ran- dom artless way, must indeed be distinguished as a separate kind, since our dialectic per- ceives in it a determinate cha- racter, but, as it has never yet been named, so it is not worth while for us now to name it.” “True; the fragments into which it is divided are too small and heterogeneous for this.” παντοδαπά is not exactly in construction with λίαν, but is an expansion of σμικρά. κατακεκέρματισ = ὅσον--- ἀμφισβητεῖται μέν] The action of the verb becomes the subject of the passive form, as In γιγνόμενον, ἀνασπώμενον, &e., supra. Compare Soph. Trach. 167: τοιαῦτ᾽ ἔφασκε πρὸς θεῶν εἱμαρμένα τῶν “Hpa- κλείων ἐκτελευτᾶσθαι πόνων. 6. ἀτέχνως] Bodl. ἀτεχνῶς. 7. πράττεται is impersonal. 8. ἐπωνυμίας] Modern poli- tical economy has supplied the missing term, viz. “higgling in the market,” except that the word ξυμβόλαια extends to other contracts besides those of commerce, including every private matter of dispute, how- ever trifling. 13. καὶ περὶ δικαίων αὐτῶν καὶ ἀδίκων καὶ περὶ τῶν ἄλλων ὅλως] Compare Theet. 175 Ὁ : ὅταν---- ἐθελήσῃ ---ἐκβῆναι ἐκ τοῦ τί ἐγὼ σὲ ἀδικῶ ἢ τί σὺ ἐμὲ εἰς σκέψιν αὐτῆς δικαιοσύνης τε καὶ ἀδικίας, ΟΥ̓ disputa- tious con- troversy, one kind is nameless, and does not deserve a name, when men higgle over 10 contracts. Another and more systematic form of the 15 same thing is when men argue τ secundem artem”’ on general principles of right. This is Eristic, which may 5 either waste the talker’s substance and the hearers’ patience, when it is mere loqua- city, or may make a gain of disputa- tion, in which case, what is its right name 2 μι σι This won- derful So- phist has turned up a fourth time. 40 ΠΛΑΤΩΝΟΣ ΘΕΑΙ. Πῶς γὰρ οὔ: ΞῈ Τοῦ μὴν ἐριστικοῦ τὸ μὲν χρηματοφθορικόν, ἃ Ν ‘ Ἃ ΄ τὸ δὲ χρηματιστικὸν ὃν τυγχάνει. ΘΕΑΙ. Παντάπασί γε. \ > / / A « / Qn qn BE. THv ἐπωνυμίαν τοίνυν, ἣν ἑκάτερον δεῖ καλεῖν ya a 7 a αὑτῶν, πειραθῶμεν εἰπεῖν. ΘΕΑΙ. Οὐκοῦν χρή. HE. Δοκῶ μὴν τό γε Ov ἡδονὴν τῆς περὶ ταῦτα διατριβῆς ἀμελὲς τῶν οἰκείων γιγνόμενον, περὶ δὲ \ / “ lo ~ / > 1oTny λέξιν τοῖς πολλοῖς τῶν ἀκουόντων οὐ μεθ᾽ « ΄“ ᾽ “ Ν ἡδονῆς ἀκουόμενον, καλεῖσθαι κατὰ γνώμην τὴν ἐμὴν » A ὃ λ a οὐχ €TEPOV HOOAEO XLKOV. ΘΕΑΙ. Λέγεται yap οὖν οὕτω πως. — 7, , ᾽ , 30. IN κα 9 a =E. Τούτου τοίνυν τοὐναντίον, ἀπὸ τῶν ἰδιωτικῶν 4 ᾿ > ’ὔ \ a ΄ ἐρίδων χρηματιζόμενον, εν T@ μέρει GU πειρῶ VUV εἰπεῖν. ΘΕΑΙ. Καὶ τίς ἂν αὖ εἰπὼν ἕτερον οὐκ ἐξαμάρτοι ’ Ν Χ 7 > lat “ 5 πλὴν γε τὸν θαυμαστὸν πάλιν ἐκεῖνον ἥκειν αὖ k.t.A. For ὅλως (referring to αὐτῶν = in a universal manner, opposed to κατὰ σμικρὰ καὶ παν- τοδαπά), cf, ib. 174 a: φύσιν ἐρευνωμένη τῶν ὄντων ἑκάστου ὅλου. The Sophist’s art is now described as bearing the semblance of philosophy, and as being engaged with the same class of questions. 8. τό ye δι᾿ ἡδονῆς---ἀδολεσχι- κοῦ] It is possible that the work of Socrates is here ironi- cally described as ‘ chremato- phthoric,’ whereas that of the Sophist is ‘ chrematistic.’ Com- pare Polit. 299 ce, where in the state which is jealous of the laws the ture statesman or philosopher is said to be called by his fellow-citizens ἀδολεσχής τις σοφιστής. 9. περὶ δὲ τὴν λέξιν----ἀκουόμε- vov| These words are inserted in order to indicate the deri- vation of ἀδολεσχής, quasi ἀηδὴς τῇ λέξει. 18, πάλιν---ἥκειν] Cf. ΤΉ Θεοῦ. 196 Ὁ: εἰς τοὺς αὐτοὺς ἀνήκει Cf. Legg. 3, 683 a: τετάρτη τις ἥκει πόλις κατοικιζο- μένη. Cf. 7140: πάλιν ἡμῖν ἀμφισβητούμενον ἐλήλυθεν. Hip- parch. 232 a: πάλιν τρίτον ἢ τέταρτον ἥκει ἡμῖν ὁμολογούμενον. The conjecture of Heindorf, καὶ τί τις ἄν, although supported by the analogy of p. 224 6, καὶ τί τις ἂν ἄλλο ὄνομα εἰπὼν οὐκ ἂν πλημμελοίη, to which αὖ clearly λόγους. Pp. 2255 σαι». | inane Neath λυ οὐ,.. ὗν. ἢ ΣΟΦΙΣΤΗΣ. φιστήν. 41 fo) , \ / « ᾽ ΄ ΄ p- 226. νῦν τέταρτον τὸν μεταδιωκόμενον ὑφ᾽ ἡμῶν σο- \ > x Ν ‘ / « mE. Οὐδὲν ἄλλ᾽ ἢ τὸ χρηματιστικὸν γένος, ws , ἴω δ an Qn a ἔοικεν, ἐριστικῆς ὃν τέχνης, τῆς ἀντιλογικῆς, τῆς ἀμφισβητητικῆς, τῆς μαχητικῆς, τῆς ἀγωνιστικῆς, 5 “ “ 3 « « ͵7 5 7 =~ fe TNS κτητικῆς ἐστιν, ὡς Ο AOyOS αὖ μεμῆνυκε νῦν, ὁ σοφιστής. ΘΙΕΑΙ. Κομιδῇ μὲν οὖν. a 45) « ἴων ᾽ὔ Ν HE. Ὁρᾷς οὖν ὡς ἀληθῆ λέγεται τὸ ποικίλον His wiles 3 a \ ,ὔ Q Ν , ΕῚ ne ͵ὕ ELVAL TOVTO TO θηρίον, Kal TO λεγόμενον ου ΤΊ) ετέρᾳᾷ 10 , ληπτέον : OEAI. Οὐκοῦν ἀμφοῖν χρή. \ \ 5 \ , ἢ 9 mE. Χρὴ yap οὖν, καὶ κατὰ dvvapiv ye οὕτω ᾽7ὔ / 7 ΕΣ » a ͵ ποιητέον, τοιόνδε TL μεταθέοντας ἴχνος αὐτοῦ. Kal refers, is not absolutely ne- cessary or certain. 1. τὸν om. Bodl. Al. The omission is probably due to the ὁμοιοτέλευτον rather than, as Stallbaum imagined, to conjecture: although the in- telligibleness of the phrase τέ- TapTov ἥκει μεταδιωκόμενον May have assisted the error. 3. τὸ χρηματιστικὸν] His ge- nealogy is this time traced backwards for the sake of va- riety. Cf. infr. 268 ¢: ἀρχόμενον ἀπὸ τελευτῆς. 4. ἐριστικῆς ὃν τέχνη] The insertion of pleonastic words, such as ὃν in this place, be- longs to the peculiar style which Plato has chosen to adopt. 9. ἀληθῆ λέγεται 7d] Cf. Men. 98 Ὁ: καὶ τοῦτό μοι δο- κεῖς ἀληθῆ λέγειν. Lach. 186a: καὶ τοῦτο μὲν ἀληθῆ λέγεις. The form ἀληθῆ λέγεις was so fre- quent that the plural predicate is retained even with a singular subject. Cf. x. Ale. 169 ὃς: πρὸς ταῦτ᾽ apa—ro δίκαιον. ποικίλον] Supr. 223 b, εὖ μάλα ποικίλης. 10. τὸ θηρίον] The image of the hunt for the Sophist, which was cautiously introduced in p- 218 6, is here advanced somewhat more boldly. ov τῇ ἑτέρᾳ ληπτέον] “ Not to be caught with one hand.” This very natural expression, and indeed the colour of the whole passage, is destroyed by Stallbaum, who says that οὐ τῇ ér. Δ. is a boxing phrase. If it were so, there would be an in- tolerable confusion of metaphors in what follows. 14. τοιόνδε μεταθέοντας ἴχνος αὐτοῦῇΒ We have tried every path which we had opened in searching for the angler, and the Sophist is not yet taken. He is not to be caught with one hand, we must use both: are mani- fold, and so must be our en- deavours. There is a trace of him which we have not yet examined. Our house- hold ser- vants talk, and so do we, of sift- ing,rinsing, scouring, straining, wringing : Also of combing, carding, warping, and the like, 4.2 7 - > ao » 7 “ y ) μοι A€ye’ τῶν OLKETLKOY ὀνομάτων καλοῦμεν ATTA Pp. 226, |’ που: ITAATQNOZ OEAI. Kai πολλά: ἀτὰρ ποῖα δὴ τῶν πολλῶν πυνθάνει ; EE. Ta τοιάδε, οἷον διηθεῖν τε λέγομεν καὶ διατ- τᾷν καὶ βράττειν καὶ Τδιακρίνειν. ΘΈΑΙ. Ti μήν; =E K Ν / , yf / / bey Ls al Wpos Ve Τοῦτοις ETL ξαίνειν, KATAYELV, / Ν 7 ᾽ 5 / y+ an κερκίζειν, καὶ μυρία εν ταῖς τέχναις ἄλλα τοιαῦτα Dy / 5 4 3 7 10 €VOVTA ἐπιστάμεθα. ἢ γάρ; ΘΕΑΙ. Τὸ ποῖον αὐτῶν πέρι βουληθεὶς δηλῶσαι; / a \ / 27) παραδείγματα προθεὶς ταῦτα κατὰ πάντων ρου; EE. Διαιρετικά που τὰ λεχθέντα εἴρηται Evp- TAVTQ. OEAI. Nat. \ \ Sa / ~ SE. Kara τὸν ἐμὸν τοίνυν λόγον ὡς περὶ ταῦτα in other words, we must try another and independent track. This “new scent,” how- ever, is not wholly uncon- nected with those previously followed. For the notion of the Elenchus, which is the characteristic now to be set up, has been suggested by the mention of ἀντιλογική. I. τῶν ὀνομάτων Throughout these dialogues, by an exaggeration of the cy- nical irony of Socrates, not without a true feeling of the universality of science, the highest thoughts are illustrated by the lowest images. τῶν οἰκετικῶν ---που 3] “ There are some words in use amongst our menials to which we give currency, I presume ?” 5. λέγομεν] Note the intro- OLKETLK@V duction of a fresh verb, re- suming καλοῦμεν. 6. καὶ Ἰδιακρίνειν ] Unless δια- κρίνειν (or διακινεῖν (1), to “shake up,” cf. Ar. Nub. 477) was used in some special technical sense, the word occurs strangely here, and awkwardly antici- pates what follows. “ Itaque ni, quod parum probabile, ab aliend manu asserta hee καὶ διακρίνειν putentur, in verbo διακρίνειν aliud videtur delitu- isse, quod felicior aliquando conjector reperiet.” Heind. 16. ὡς---τέχνην! Cf. Phileb. 18 6: μίαν ἐπ᾽ αὐτοῖς ὡς οὖσαν γραμματικὴν τέχνην ἐπεφθέγξατο προσειπών. τέχνην is resumed by αὐτὴν for the sake of clear- ness, as in Theet.155 d: ἀνδρῶν —airév. alib. ΣΟΦΙΣΊΤΗΣ. 42 / 53 » “ / Cle > / ᾽ 7 ΟΡ. 226, μιὰν OVOQAV EV ATTACL TEXVIV, ἐνὸς OVOMAaTOS ἀξιώ- d / σομεν αὐτὴν. ΘΕΑΙ. Tiva προσειπόντες ; BE. Διακριτικήν. ΘΕΑΙ. Ἔστω. EE. Σκόπει δὴ ταύτης αὖ δύο av πη δυνώμεθα κατιδεῖν εἴδη. ΘΕΑΙ. Ταχεῖαν ὡς ἐμοὶ σκέψιν ἐπιτάττεις. aE K Ν δ y > > / ὃ / \ μ᾿ ds Qt μὴν ἐν γε Tals εἰρημεναις ἰ(ἀκρισεσι TO \ la » \ / 5 / 3 XN > μὲν χεῖρον ἀπὸ βελτίονος ἀποχωρίζειν ἦν, τὸ ὃ Ψ s ᾽ € / ὅμοιον ἀφ᾽ ὁμοίου. ΘΒΑΙ. Σχεδὸν οὕτω νῦν λεχθὲν φαίνεται. ἜΠῚ TH \ / y ᾽ 2) / Σ “i. Ings μὲν τοινυν ονομα οὐκ ἔχω λεγόμενον 4. Acaxpitexny] Cf. Pelit. 282 Ὁ : μεγάλα τινὲ κατὰ πάντα ἡμῖν ἤστην τέχνα, ἡ συγκριτική τε καὶ διακριτιῆ. There is here brought into distinct promi- nence the idea of Difference, (suggested by that of Contro- versy), on which the discussion in this dialogue chiefly turns. 8. ὡς ἐμοὶ] Cf Rep. 536 ¢, d: οὔκουν ὥς ay) ἐμοὶ ἀκροατῇ. "AAN ὡς ἐμοὶ, ἣν δ᾽ ἐγώ, ῥήτορι. Soph. Aj. 395: ἔρεβος ὦ φαεν- νότατον, ὡς ἐμοἔ. For the meaning of κερκίζειν, which is not clearly given in the Lexi- cons, see Cratyl. 388 a: kep- κίζοντες δὲ Ti δρῶμεν ; ov κρόκην καὶ τοὺς στήμονας συγκε- χυμένους διακρίνομεν ; It seems to have been a process, not merely of making fast, but of giving a regular appearance to the web by means of the comb or κερκίς. See Smith’s Dictionary of Antiquities, art. Tela, p. trot Ὁ. \ THY G 9. ἔν ye—spotovl] “In the separations above named we saw included the parting of worse from better and of like from like.” The past tense implies an appeal to experi- ence. For the limitation of the inference by means of ye, cf. Theet. 204 ¢: ἀριθμοῦ ἐστι. τὸ μὲν] Τὰ. ο΄, διηθεῖν, διατ- τᾷν, βράττειν. 10. τὸ δὲ] E. g. ξαίνειν, κατά- γειν, κερκίζειν. 12. Σχεδὸν----φαίνεται] “ Such does appear to be the case now you have put it into words.” οὕτω is to be joined with φαί- For λεχθὲν, cf. the Ho- meric ῥεχθὲν δέ τε νήπιος ἔγνω. Rep. 2; 370 Ὁ : ἐννοῶ γὰρ καὶ av- τὸς εἰπόντος cov. Phileb. 14 ¢: θαυμαστὸν λεχθέν. Legg. 2,672 b: διὰ τὸ κακῶς τοὺς avOparovs αὐτὸ ὑπολαβεῖν καὶ γνῶναι λεχθέν. Phileb. 45 b: νῦν ῥηθὲν φαί- νεται. ᾿" ΄ “ > ἔν ye τοῖς ὅσα ἐξ νεται. “Ὰ -- All these are in stances of dividing; but while in those last men- tioned like is divided from like, in the for- mer the good 1s separated from the bad. ΤῸ do this is to purify. And there are two sorts of purifica- tion. First of bodies, whether animate or inanimate, there are purgations both in- 44 > / Ν / Ν ; τῆς δὲ καταλειπούσης μὲν TO βέλτιον διακρίσεως, TO p. 226. |) ITAATQNOZ de χεῖρον ἀποβαλλούσης ἔχω. ΘΕΑΙ. Λέγε τί. ΄σ « / 4 . > \ ΄σ ZE. Πᾶσα ἡ τοιαύτη διάκρισις, ὡς ἐγὼ ξυννοῶ, / \ ’ / 5 λέγεται Tapa πάντων καθαρμος τις. OEAI. Λέγεται γὰρ οὖν. EE. Οὐκοῦν τό ye καθαρτικὸν εἶδος αὖ διπλοῦν > la “Δ », ον πᾶς ἂν ἰδοι; GHAI. Nai, κατὰ σχολήν γε ἴσως" οὐ μὴν ἔγωγε 10 καθορῶ νῦν. — ἂν Χ \ ΄ Ν > SE. Kat μὴν τὰ περὶ τὰ σώματα πολλὰ εἰδὴ ΄ εἰς lad / / καθαρσεων evi περιλαβεῖν ὀνόματι προσήκει. ΘΕΑΙ. Ποῖα καὶ τίνι: I ΄ὔ an / σ » ἊΝ 7, « Ν SE. Ta τε τῶν ζώων, ὅσα ἐντὸς σωμάτων ὑπὸ Ξ 5 an a , , ternal and 15 γυμναστικῆς ἰατρικῆς τε ὀρθῶς διακρινόμενα καθαί- external. ν NN 3 7 > ΄- A a cd ρεται καὶ περὶ TAKTOS, εἰπεῖν μεν φαῦλα, ὅσα βαλα- 4. ὡς ἐγὼ ξυννοῶ] “As I perceive on taking a general survey : i. 6. by a process of auvayoyn. ‘“O yap συνοπτικὸς διαλεκτικός. (Rep. 7, 537 ¢.) 5. καθαρμός τις] The thought which is here introduced, that philosophy is a purification of the soul, has an affinity with Pythagorean doctrine, and is in harmony with the Pheedo. The same idea is applied to the science of government in the Politicus, 293 d. Cf. also Legg. 5,735. τις narks the introduc- tion of a fresh notion. Cf. Polit. 299 Ο: εἰς δή τι δικαστήριον. II. πολλὰ] Se. ὄντα. 12. καθάρσεων] ‘ processes of cleansing.” For the variation of the word, cf. Lege. 9, 868 ¢, d: καθάρσεις---καθαρμούς, ib. 735 6. 14. Ta te τῶν ζώων --- καθαί- petal] “IT mean both cleans- ings of living bodies, including such right separations and pur- gations as are effected within.” 15. διακρινόμενα! Compare Phileb. 46 6: τῷ τὰ συγκεκρι- μένα βίᾳ διαχεῖν ἢ τὰ διακεκριμένα συγχεῖν. Ar. Eth. Nic. VII. 14, δ6: of δὲ μελαγχολικοὶ τὴν φύσιν ἀεὶ δέονται ἰατρείας καὶ τὸ σῶμα δακνόμενον διὰ τὴν κρᾶσιν, where similar physio- logical notions are implied. 16. περὶ τἀκτός] Se. καθαιρό- μενα. The notion of εἴδη is not distinctly repeated with ὅσα, which is the cognate sub- ject (in apposition to the ac- tion) of διακρινόμενα καθαίρεται. I.e. ὅσαι 6. xk. = τε καὶ καθαρμοὶ γίγνονται. εἰπεῖν μὲν φαῦλα] Se. εἶδος δὲ ἔχοντα ὅμως. διατελεῖται a , ὅσαι διακρίσεις Pp. 2272 τ a a ΣΟΦΙΣΤΗΣ. 45 \ / “ > / , τε Ρ. 227. νευτικὴ παρέχεται: καὶ τῶν ἀψύχων σωμάτων, ὧν \ \ 7 \ \ ᾽ 7 γναφευτικὴ καὶ ξύμπασα κοσμητικὴ τὴν ἐπιμέλειαν / \ \ Ν Ν vad A παρεχομένη κατὰ σμικρὰ πολλὰ καὶ γελοῖα δοκοῦντα / ΒΩ ὀνόματα ἔσχεν. ΘΕΑΙ. Mada γε. \ 5 5 / ‘ \ BE. Παντάπασι μὲν οὖν, ὦ Θεαίτητε. ἀλλὰ yap 2. γναφευτικὴ καὶ ξύμπασα κο- σμητικὴ It is implied that γναφευτικὴ, cloth-dressing, is a department of κοσμητική, the art of making neat. This is dis- tinctly affirmed in Polit. 282 a: πολλῆς οὔσης τῆς κοσμητικῆς τοὺν- ταῦθα αὐτῆς μύριον εἰκὸς περιλαμ- βάνειν ---- κναφευτικῆ. The word κοσμητικὴ is not found elsewhere in this sense, and Dr. Badham, following the analogy of Valck- naer’s correction (?) of Hdt.VIT. 209 (τὰς κεφαλὰς [κυ]σμέονται), would prefer σμητικῆ. But it should be borne in mind that “washing” and “ darning” (πλυντικὴ καὶ ἀκεστικὴ, Polit. 1...) are included in the art in ques- tion. ‘ Renovation” is not quite an equivalent, because κοσμητικῆ implies dressing or “brushing up” the new clothes as well as the old. τὴν ἐπιμέλειαν παρεχομένη κατὰ σμικρὰ] “ Attending to which things in a variety of minute departments, the processes of fuling and other furbishing have earned a great number of what are thought ridiculous names.” 3. γελοῖα δοκοῦντα] “ Which are thought ridiculous,’—since no name really is so which con- veys a genuine meaning. Cf. Rep. 7, 538 Ὁ : οἰκείους δοκοῦν- tas. Theet. 153 a: τὸ--- εἶναι δοκοῦν. δοκοῦσαι. 7. 199 d: δοκοῦντα εἶναι νόμιμα. 4. ἔσχεν] Cf. Rep. 6, 502d: ἐπειδὴ ταῦτα μόγις τέλος ἔσχεν. 6. Παντάπασι μὲν οὖν] “There can be no doubt of their being thought absurd. But then, Theeetetus, the spirit of method cares neither more nor less for sponging than for physicking, if it be so that the one does us small service and the other great in the way of purifying. For her endeavour is to know what is and is not kindred in the whole range of the sciences and arts; wherefore she pays equal ob- servance to them all, and where she finds resemblance between things, she counts the one no whit more ridiculous than the other ; nor does she esteem him who gives generalship as an instance of “ pursuit” at all more decorous but as a rule rather more affected than one who prefers the example of vermin-killing.” For the verb σπογγίζω, see Dem. de Cor. 313. 12; Aristoph. Thesm. 247. This clause refers to the many minute branches of κοσμητική of which σπογγιστική is one, rather than to the ἐκτὸς καθάρ- σεις τῶν ζώων. Ibid.176 ἃ : δεινότητες And compare Legg. πολλὰ καὶ σμικρὰ (This occa- sions the remark that sci- entific method ignores the common standards of mean and high. 46 τῇ τῶν λόγων μεθόδῳ σπογγιστικῆς ἢ φαρμακοπο- P- 227.1) ΠΛΑΤΩΝΟΣ ͵, Oh - > aA ΄ ΄ σίας οὐδὲν ἧττον οὐδέ τι μᾶλλον τυγχάνει μέλον, εἰ τὸ μὲν σμικρά, τὸ δὲ μεγάλα ἡμᾶς ὠφελεῖ καθαῖρον. A , A “ A a a ‘ TOU κτήσασθαι yap €VEKA VOUY πασῶν τέχνων TO 5€vyyeves καὶ TO μὴ ξυγγενὲς κατανοεῖν πειρωμένη ἴω Ν n » J 7 ἐν / lal τίμα πρὸς τοῦτο ἐξ ἰσου TAOCaS, και θάτερα TOV ἐ « / \ Ν « / \ . Lal / ἑτέρων κατὰ τὴν ὁμοιότητα οὐδὲν ἡγεῖται γελοιότερα, σεμνότερον δέ τι τὸν διὰ στρατηγικῆς ἢ φθειριστικῆς an Ν \ ’ > c ΧΝ δηλοῦντα θηρευτικὴν οὐδὲν νενόμικεν, ἀλλ᾽ ὡς τὸ I. σπογγιστικῆς]͵ “The art of cleansing with the sponge.” ἀλλὰ γάρ implies, “ But the apparent absurdity of the names is nothing to us, for,” We. 2. οὐδέ τι μᾶλλον] Cf. Rep. 1, 339 Ὁ: οὔπω δῆλον οὐδ᾽ εἰ μεγάλη. From ἃ humorous determination to be strictly impartial, it is purposely left doubtful which is to be con- sidered the more useful art. Plato seems to have changed his opinion on the subject of pharmacy. Compare Rep. 3, 407 with Tim. 89 ¢, d. 4. τοῦ κτήσασθαι ἕνεκα νοῦν] Compare Polit. 272 ¢: πυνθα- νόμενοι παρὰ πάσης φύσεως εἴ τινά τις ἰδίαν δύναμιν ἔχουσα ἤσθετο τι διάφορον τῶν ἄλλων εἰς συναγυρμὸν φρονήσεως. τὸ συγγενὲς καὶ τὸ μὴ συγ- yeves| Cf. Rep. 7, 531 ¢: ἐὰν μὲν ἐπὶ τὴν ἀλλήλων κοινωνίαν ἀφίκη- ται καὶ συγγένειαν, καὶ συλλογισθῇ ταῦτα ἣ ἐστιν ἀλλήλοις οἰκεῖα, φέ- pe τι αὐτῶν εἰς ἃ βουλόμεθα τὴν στραγματείαν, καὶ οὐκ ἀνόνητα πο- νεῖσθαι, εἰ δὲ μὴ, ἀνόνητα. 7. κατὰ τὴν ὁμοιότητα] LI. 6. ἡ τοιαῦτά ἐστι. “In respect οἵ their resemblance,”—to which in the act of generalizing her attention is confined. 8. σεμνότερον] “ More decor- ous or refined.” Cf. Theet. 150a: φεύγουσι καὶ THY προμνη- στικὴν ἅτε σεμναὶ οὖσαι αἱ μαῖαι, Compare Parm. [30 6: ὅτε οὐδὲν αὐτῶν ἀτιμάσεις. Phileb. 58 ¢, Phedr. 261 Ὁ. Polit. 266 d: 6 τι τῇ τοιᾷδε μεθύδῳ τῶν λόγων οὔτε σεμνοτέρου μᾶλλον ἐμέλησεν ἢ μή. It is a true reflection, though here ironically applied, that science ignores the fasti- diousness of the senses and the prejudices of a refined taste, and, as Lord Bacon says, “ que palatia et cloacas in- ereditur nec tamen polluitur.” Noy. Organ. 1,120. Compare also the defiance of ridicule in Rep. 5, 452. And see the re- marks of Mr.Grote on the pas- sage of the Parmenides above cited, Plato &ce., vol. 11. p. 268. τι ---- οὐδὲν Cf. Pheed. 74a: οὐδ᾽ ἄλλο τι τῶν τοιούτων οὐδέν. 9. θηρευτικὴνἢ Plato seems to have been fond of the no- tion of a science of θηρευτική which should include war, ty- ranny, the chase, rhetoric, and sophistry under one head. Cf. supr. p. 222, Eutbyd. 290 Ὁ, ΣΟΦΙΣΤΗΣ. 47 Pp. 227. πολὺ χαυνότερον. καὶ δὴ καὶ νῦν, ὅπερ ἤρου, τί προσεροῦμεν ὄνομα ξυμπάσας δυνάμεις, ὅσαι σῶμα εἴτε ἔμψυχον εἴτε ἄψυχον {εἰλήφασι καθαίρειν, οὐδὲν αὐτῇ διοίσει, ποῖόν τι λεχθὲν εὐπρεπέστατον εἶναι Q δόξει: μόνον ἐχέτω χωρὶς τῶν τῆς ψυχῆς καθάρσεων σι ’ “ ‘ πάντα ξυνδῆσαν ὅσα ἄλλο τι καθαίρει Tov yap Ν \ 7 Χ SON “- “΄ » περὶ τὴν διάνοιαν καθαρμὸν ἀπὸ τῶν ἄλλων ἐπικε- / / \ “ / 7 χείρηκεν ἀφορίσασθαι τὰ viv, εἴ ye ὅπερ βούλεται ᾽ὔ μανθανομεν. > A , ἣν lal 7 \ OEAI. ᾿Αλλὰ μεμάθηκα, καὶ συγχωρῶ δύο μὲν 10 Secondly, ἮΝ θά ἃ δὲ x N \ \ δ 5 there are εἴδη καθάρσεως, ev δὲ TO περὶ THY ψυχὴν εἰδος εἶναι, — purifica- a MKS A ΝΕ 9. tions of τοῦ περὶ TO σωμα χωρὶς ον. ΕΣ ἢ μι ΄ ΄ / \ . whereby HE. Ilavrwv καλλιστα. Kal fol TO PETA the evil is separated from the Polit. 299 ἃ, Rep. 2, 373 b, certain that εἰλήφασι here ig 8° Lege. 7, 823; see also Epin. 975 0. I. ὅπερ ἤρου] Supr. 226 e: ποῖα καὶ τίνι. “And so now, with respect to the question wrong. Cf. Legg. 1, 624 a: εἴληφε τὴν αἰτίαν. Ib. 6,768 d: THY πλείστην νομοθεσίαν εἰλήφασι. Hdt. III. 71. See also Phileb. 37 Ὁ, and the Zurich Editors’ you have asked, What name is to be given to all faculties whose province is to cleanse animate or inanimate bodies, she will not care, what expres- sion will sound most seemly.” τί mpocep. is explanatory of ὅπερ, whose antecedent is in the ac- cusative of respect after διοίσει. οὐδὲν is adverbial, and the subj. of διοίσει is the clause ποῖόν τι δόξει. 3. Τεϊλήφασι 7 So all the MSS. except a corrector of Par. B., who gives εἰλήχασι (thus, εἰλή- φασι). Although it is difficult to bring forward another in- stance of λαμβάνω used exactly in this sense, or followed by an infinitive, it is not quite preface to the Philebus, p. xiv. There is, however, a much greater internal probability in favour of εἰλήχασι, Cf. Theeet. 149 b: τὴν λοχείαν εἴληχε. Tim. 52a: τοῦτο ὃ δὴ νοήσις εἴληχεν ἐπισκοπεῖν. Lb. 38 d: τὴν ἐναντίαν εἰληχὸς αὐτῷ δύναμιν. 5. ἐχέτω] Se. τὸ λεχθὲν ὄνομα. Cf. Β6ρ.7,533: ἔστι δ᾽, ὡς ἐμοὶ δοκεῖ, οὐ περὶ ὀνόματος ἀμφισβή- τησις, οἷς τοσούτων πέρι σκέψις ὅσων ἡμῖν πρόκειτα. Οὐ γὰρ οὖν, ἔφη" ἀλλ᾽ ὃ ἂν μόνον δηλοῖ πρὸς τὴν ἕξιν σαφηνείᾳ, ἃ λέγει ἐν ψυχῇ. 7. ἐπικεχείρηκεν] Se. ἡ τῶν λόγων τέχνη. 10. δύο --- καθάρσεως] εἶναι must be supplied from the following clause. Io Now men- I5 tal evils are of two kinds, cor- responding to disease and ugli- ness in the body : 48 al ’ , , 5 TOUTO ἐπάκουε πειρώμενος GU TO 4 τέμνειν. ΠΛΑΤΩΝΟΣ Ν OEAI. Καθ᾿ ὁποῖ᾽ ἂν ὑφηγῇ,. πειράσομαί σοι ’ὔ συντεμνειν.- EE. Πονηρίαν ἕτερον ἀρετῆς ἐν ψυχῇ λέγομέν Tl y ΘΕΑΙ. Πῶς yap ov ; =E. Kat μὴν καθαρμὸς ἦν τὸ λιπεῖν μὲν Oare- ’ WG? ΩΝ 3 / ΄ ρον, ἐκβάλλειν δὲ ὅσον ἂν ἡ πού τι φλαῦρον. OEAI. Ἦν γὰρ οὖν. ΞΕ. Καὶ ψυχῆς ἄρα καθ᾽ ὅσον ἂν εὑρίσκωμεν 7 » / 7, Ν 9. Ὁ vA > κακίας ἀφαίρεσίν τινα, καθαρμὸν αὐτὸν λέγοντες ἐν μέλει φθεγξόμεθα. ΘΕΑΙ. Καὶ μάλα γε. \ 3 ¢e =E. Avo μὲν εἴδη κακίας περὶ ψυχὴν ῥητέον. ΘΈΑΙ. Iota; = \ \ e , » , \ > ἘΣ ΞΕ. To μὲν οἷον νοσοὸν ἐν σώματι, To δ᾽ οἷον 5 3 ,ὔ αισχος εγγίιγνομενον. ΘΈΑΙ. Οὐκ ἔμαθον. I. ἐπάκουε πειρώμενος] Bad- ham elegantly conjectures ἐπα- κολούθει : and, less happily, πειρωμένῳ: Of. Polit. 261 a: ἀλλ᾽ ἐπακολουθῶν σύντεμνε. See however Legg. goo d: καὶ σφο- Spa γε ἐπήκουε. ib. gos d. 5. ἀρετῆς] Bodl. ἄρ᾽ τῆς. 8. λιπεῖν]! So all the MSS. “To leave once for all what is not evil, but continually to throw out whatever evil is found anywhere.” So the dif- ference of tense may be ex- pressed. The action of λιπεῖν is viewed as final, that of ἐκβάλ- Aew as continuous. Heind. conj. λείπειν. 9. mov] “anywhere.” 1. 6. (in the present instance) “in any region of the soul.” 11. ψυχῆς] Gen. after κακίας ἀφαίρεσιν and καθαρμόν. Cf. supr. 224 a and note. 12. αὐτὸν refers to ἀφαίρεσιν, but agrees in gender by at- traction with καθαρμόν. ἐν μέλε] Cf. Phileb. 28 b: ἵνα μὴ---παρὰ μέλος φθεγξώ- μεθά τὶ. “In tune,” i. 6: con- sistently. 15. Avo μὲν εἴδη κακίας] The implied apodosis, which is postponed by the explanation which follows, is δύο δὲ καθαρμῶν. 18. ἐγγιγνόμενον] Sc. ἐν ψυχῇ. λεχθὲν διχῇ Ρ- 227.4)! 4 Ῥ- 228. Hp. 228. b ΣΟΦΙΣΊΤΗΣ. 40 ΞΕ. Nooov ἴσως καὶ στάσιν οὐ ταὐτὸν νενό- μικας. ΘΕΑΙ. Οὐδ᾽ αὖ πρὸς τοῦτο ἔχω τί χρή με ἀπο- κρίνασθαι. ΞΕ. Πότερον ἄλλο τι στάσιν ἡγούμενος ἢ τὴν 5 τοῦ φύσει ξυγγενοῦς ἔκ τινος διαφορᾶς διαφθοράν ; ΘΕΑΙ. Οὐδέν. HE. ᾿Αλλ᾽ αἶσχος ἄλλο τι πλὴν τὸ τῆς ἀμετρίας πανταχοῦ δυσειδὲς ὃν γένος : ΘΕΑΙ. Οὐδαμῶς ἄλλο. EE. Τί δέ; ἐν ψυχῇ δόξας ἐπιθυμίαις καὶ θυμὸν Ιο ἡδοναῖς καὶ λόγον λύπαις καὶ πάντα ἀλλήλοις ταῦτα τῶν φλαύρως ἐχόντων οὐκ ἠσθήμεθα διαφερόμενα; ΘΕΑΙ. Καὶ σφόδρα γε. EE. Zuyyevn γε μὴν ἐξ ἀνάγκης ξύμπαντα yeé-15 yovev. OEAI. [as yap ov; “, ,ὔ Tas a SE. Στάσιν apa καὶ νόσον τῆς ψυχῆς πονηρίαν λέγοντες ὀρθῶς ἐροῦμεν. ΘΕΑΙ. ᾿Ορθότατα μὲν οὖν. 20 — aN “ 7, , e ΡΠ. Τί δ᾽; ὅσα κινήσεως μετασχόντα καὶ σκο- 3. Οὐδ᾽ αὖ] Referring to οὐκ ἔμαθον supr. 6. ἔκ τινος διαφορᾶς διαφθοράν] This is the MS. reading: that of Cornarius, taken from a quotation of this passage by Galen, διαφθορᾶς διαφοράν, being supported only by a correction in Par. F. The object is to shew that sedition is a disease ; and it is more natural to speak of disease as a dissolution or decay of kindred elements in consequence of some dissen- sion amongst them, than as a dissension arising from some decay. 11. δόξας ἐπιθυμίαις «.7.d.] Cf. Rep. 4, 439; 440. 12. λόγον λύπαις] Cf. Rep. 3, 387, 388. 13. τῶν φλαύρως ἐχόντων] These words are an afterthought, and are placed in immediate con- struction with ταῦτα (viz. δοξ. ἐπ. θυμ. 75. Noy. λυπ.). πονηρία appeared above as a general word, but is here used with a special meaning, as distin- guished from ἀμαθία, Vice is analogous to disease, and both are similar to civil war. For each is a corruption of kindred elements arising from some dissension. lonorance is a kind of deformity, and may be com- pared to the bodily state, in which the 5 movements of different members are inhar- monious and fail of accom- plishing their end. 10 50 MAATOQNO® / / / / ’ὔ Tov τινα θέμενα, πειρώμενα τούτου τυγχάνειν, καθ᾽ γ. 228. ἢ ε , ε \ ΄ὕ > ΞΞ , ἑκάστην ὁρμὴν παράφορα αὐτοῦ γίγνεται καὶ ἀπο- ’ τυγχάνει, r Ν τὴς προς πασχειν: ΘΒΕΑΙ. / > \ / c \ if πότερον αὐτὰ φήσομεν ὑπὸ συμμετρίας ΕΣ Δ > / « \ > / ᾽ \ αἀλληλὰ ἢ τοὐναντίον ὑπὸ ἀμετρίας αὐτὰ Δῆλον ὡς ὑπὸ ἀμετρίας. \ / > 3, cal EE. ᾿Αλλὰ μὴν ψυχὴν ye ἴσμεν ἄκουσαν πᾶσαν a 3 lal παν αἀγνοουσαν. OEAI. Σφόδρα γε. / Χ » a > e HE. To ye μὴν ἀγνοεῖν ἐστιν ἐπ᾿ ἀλήθειαν oppo- μένης ψυχῆς, παραφόρου ξυνέσεως γιγνομένης, οὐδὲν ἄλλο πλὴν παραφροσύνη. BEAT. Πάνυ μὲν οὖν. τ. πειρώμενα!] The omission of this word in the Bodleian MS. is probably due to the ὁμοιοτέλευτον οἵ θέμενα. 2. παράφορα αὐτοῦ] Sc. τοῦ σκόπου, “swerving from the mark.” In Tim. 87 e (where the word παραφορότης is used) the same connexion is noticed be- tween irregularity of action and disproportion of parts. 4. αὐτὰ πάσχειν] “ Are thus affected.” For the neut. plur., ef. Theet. 207 6, and note. Compare Ar. Eth. Nic. I. 13: ἀτεχνῶς yap καθάπερ τὰ παραλε- λυμένα τοῦ σώματος μέρη εἰς τὰ δεξιὰ προαιρουμένου κινῆσαι τοὐ- ναντίον εἰς τὰ ἀριστερὰ παραφέ- ρεται, καὶ ἐπὶ τῆς ψυχῆς οὕτως" ἐπὶ τἀναντία γὰρ αἱ ὁρμαὶ τῶν ἀκρατῶν᾽ ἀλλ᾽ ἐν τοῖς σώμασι μὲν ὁρῶμεν τὸ παραφερόμενον, ἐπὶ δὲ τῆς ψυχῆς οὐχ ὁρῶμεν. But what Aristotle thus describes approaches more nearly to what Plato here ealls στάσις τῆς ψυχῆς. . ψυχήν γε --- ἀγνοοῦσαν | This is emphatically the na- ture of “soul” or “ mind”— according to the well-known Socratic or Platonic principle, which remains unaltered in the Laws. See Legg. 9, 860 d: ως Ol KAKOL παντες ELS TAVTA ELOLVY ἄκοντες κακοί. II. παραφόρου ξυνέσεως] An etymological analysis, in the Cratylus vein, of παραφρο- Cf. Legg. 6, 775 d: παράφορος---ὁ μεθύων. παραφόρου συνέσεως γιγνο- μένης (ψυχῆς) “ And what is ignorance, but the aberration of a mind which is bent on truth but swerves aside from under- standing ?” The gen. συνέσεως is governed by παραφόρου. which agrees with Ψυχῆς. For this interpretation we are in- debted to the acumen of Hein- dorf. , συνη. πον, “- τς ZOPISTHY. a 3, > / ’ \ Ν ᾽ Ρ.228. FE. Ψυχὴν ἄρα ἀνόητον αἰσχρὰν καὶ ἄμετρον θετέον. ΘΕΑΙ. "Eorkev. 3, a a > BE. Ἔστι δὴ δύο ταῦτα, ws φαίνεται, κακῶν ἐν » ΄ / ‘ / c Ν coat αὐτῇ γένη, TO μὲν πονηρία καλούμενον ὑπὸ τῶν an / > “-“ 3, πολλῶν, νόσος αὐτῆς σαφέστατα Ov. OEAI. Ναί. BE. Τὸ δέ ye ἀγνοιαν μὲν καλοῦσι, κακίαν δὲ SEN a / / 5 / € αὐτὸ ἐν ψυχῇ μόνον γιγνόμενον οὐκ ἐθέλουσιν ὁμο- λογεῖν. Ξ ἃ π᾿ \ e OEAI. Κομιδῇ συγχωρητέον, ὃ νῦν δὴ λέξαντος > 7 ΄ χ , 3 ΄ , » > nupeyvonaa σου, TO δύο εἶναι γένη κακίας ἐν ψυχῇ: Ν / \ Ν 3 / SO / , καὶ δειλίαν μὲν καὶ ἀκολασίαν καὶ ἀδικίαν ξύμπαντα 3 UZ 7 > «ς lad \ \ ὍΝ ἊΝ \ nynTEOV νόσον ἐν ἡμῖν, TO δὲ τῆς πολλῆς καὶ παντο- δαπῆς ἀγνοίας πάθος αἶσχος θετέον. EE. Οὐκοῦν ἐν σώματί γε περὶ δύο παθήματε / , 4 \ ’ , τούτω dvo τέχνα τινε ἐγενέσθην ; ΘΈΑΙ. Τώε τούτω: aE Π ἣν \ 5 f Ν δὲ / mut. Liepl μὲν αἰσχος γυμναστικὴ. περι OE νοσον ΄ ἰατρικὴ. CEAI. PaivecOov. - \ EE. Οὐκοῦν καὶ περὶ μὲν ὕβριν καὶ ἀδικίαν καὶ 8. καλοῦσιν --- οὐκ ἐθέλουσι] Se. οἱ πολλοί from τῶν πολλῶν supra. 9. ev Ψυχῇ μόνον γιγνόμενον] I. 6. When mental is not com- bined with bodily deformity : for the converse of which see Rep. 3, 402 6: or ἐν ψυχῇ μόνον, “only in the soul,” as if that was a matter of less consequence. Stallb.’s inter- pretation, “eam esse eximie (μόνον) in animo pravitatem,” H (cf. Symp. 215 6) requires γί- γνεσθαι. For the omission of εἶναι, cf. infr. 246 e: τοῦτο δὲ ov σῶμα ἔμψυχον ὁμολογοῦσιν. 13. ξύμπαντα]! Stallb. adds ταῦτα from C.F. b,c, unnecessa- rily. For πάθος, infr., cf. Theet. 193 d: τὸ τῆς δόξης πάθος. 16. περὶ δύο παθήματε] Cf. Phedr. 261 ὃ: περὶ πάντα τὰ λεγόμενα μία τις τέχνη. 22. Οὐκοῦν καὶ] “And in like manner.” 2) a As gym- nastic 20 counter- acts defor- mity, and medicine disease, so there is chastise- ment for the cure of vice, and instruction to remedy the more latent evil. _enumerated 52 δειλίαν ἡ κολαστικὴ πέφυκε τεχνῶν μάλιστα δὴ p. 229. ΠΛΑΤΌΝΟΣ ΄ / / πασῶν προσήκουσα | OiKnt : ΘΕΑΙ. Τὸ γοῦν εἰκός, ὡς εἰπεῖν κατὰ τὴν ἀνθρω- πίνην δόξαν. EE. Τί δέ; περὶ ξύμπασαν ἄγνοιαν μῶν ἄλλην \ x \ 3 / 7 ” τινὰ ἢ διδασκαλικὴν ὀρθότερον εἴποι τις ἀν; ΘΈΑΙ. Οὐδεμίαν. EE. Φέρε δή: διδασκαλικῆς δὲ apa ἕν μόνον / , 3 x 7, ΄ ΄ὔ >, κ 53 γένος φατέον εἶναι ἢ πλείω, δυο δέ τινε αὐτῆς εἶναι / ,ὔ τὸ μέγίστω, OKOTTEL. ΘΈΑΙ. Σκοπῶ. EE. Καί μοι δοκοῦμεν τῇδε av πῃ τάχιστα εὑρεῖν. ΟΠ, ἡἣ κολαστικὴ---- [δίκη ] The position of δίκη in the sentence -inay be paralleled from many similar inversions in this and other dialogues. Many of Plato’s rhythmical sentences end purposely with a dissyl- able, which is often sepa- rated from the natural con- nexion. And δίκη is similarly amongst other arts, including medicine, in Gorg. 478 b, ὁ: Χρηματιστικὴ μὲν πενίας ἀπαλλάττει, ἰατρικὴ δὲ νόσου, δίκη δὲ ἀκολασίας καὶ ἀδικίας. —— τί οὖν τούτων κάλ- λιστόν ἐστιν.--- χρηματιστικῆς, ἰα- τρικῆς, δίκης ; πολὺ διαφέρει, ὦ Σώκρατες, ἡ δίκη. ΤΌ. infr.: ἰα- τρικὴ γίγνεται πονηρίας ἡ δίκη. The addition of κολαστικὴ in the present passage is, how- ever, curious: for it is not clear from what other kind of justice corrective justice is here distinguished. I there- fore venture to suggest the very slight correction δίκῃ, which is in some degree con- firmed by the frequency of tragic expressions in these dialogues. Cf. Soph. Electr. 70: σοῦ yap ἔρχομαι δίκῃ Kabap- τής. Ant. 94: ἐχθρὰ δὲ τῷ θα- νόντι πρόσκεισαι δίκη. And see Pheedr. 278 6: δίκῃ mov ποιη- Polit. 310 a: ἐπὶ τούτοις τοῦτ᾽ εἶναι τέχνῃ φάρ- μακον. Tim. 62 d: οὐκ ἐν δίκῃ δόξει τὸ μηδὲν προσῆκον ὄνομα Theztetus’ answer, ὡς τὴν---προσερεῖς. λέγειν. b γοῦν — δόξαν, is in harmony - with this. It is not probable that δίκη is a marginal note, since, except in the passage of the Gorgias above quoted, the term is hardly used with the precise meaning given to κολα- στική here. The word is un- accentuated in the Bodl. MS. Compare the political appli- cation of the idea of καθαρμὸς already noticed in Legg. 5, 735 and Polit. 293. 9. ἢ πλείω, δύο δὲ] Cf. Rep. 4, 445 α: ἄπειρα δὲ τῆς κακίας (εἴδη), τέτταρα δ᾽ ἐν αὐτοῖς ἅττα ὧν καὶ ἄξιον ἐπιμνησθῆναι. [}».220. ΣΟΦΙΣΤΗΣ. ΘΕΑΙ. Mi; μ- Ν » 100 v \ / par HE. Τὴν ayvoiay ἰδόντες εἰ πῃ κατὰ μέσον αὑτῆς τομὴν ἔχει τινά. διπλῆ γὰρ αὕτη γιγνομένη δῆλον “ Ν \ Ν 7 > 75 / yy OTL καὶ τὴν διδασκαλικὴν OVO ἀναγκάζει μόρια ἔχειν, a 3 οὶ \ / “ ᾽ “ c / εν ἐφ ενι γένει τῶν AUTNS εἐκᾶάτέρῳ. 3. τομὴν ἔχει τινὰ] Cf. Lege. 12, 944 b: σχεδὸν οὖν ἐν τοῖς ὀνείδεσιν ἔχει τινὰ τομὴν 7 ἐπιφορά. ῥίψασπις μὲν γὰρ οὐκ ἐν πᾶσιν ὀνομάζοιτ᾽ ἂν δικαίως, ἀποβολεὺς δὲ ὅπλων. διπλῆ γὰρ αὕτη γιγνομένη | Cf. Gorg. 464 Ὁ: Δυοῖν ὄντοιν τοῖν πραγμάτοιν δύο λέγω τέχνας κιτ.λ. The meaning of pp. 226-- 231 may be thus stated: The Sophist professes to be an edu- cator ; and the highest form of education is that which leads men to know them- selves, and liberates them from the conceit of knowledge: in other words, the elenchus, or cross-questioning method. This , ΄ τούτων τῶν ὀνομάτων is distinguished from the an- tiquated mode of correction by direct reproof, and also from the positive instruction which is given to those who are consciously ignorant of any subject. There is grave doubt whether the Sophist deserves to be called an educator in this highest sense: but the honour is yielded to him for the pre- sent, with the feeling that he will not retain it long. The serious thought, that educa- tion is the purification of the mind through the separation of the false from the true, is approached ironically through the trivial example of house- hold processes, and also through the following distinctions : Separation fees Of like from like Of good from evil = Purification ane a Corporeal Mental (and mental evils are) τ- Scar eer ery ἘΠ (aos) ΤῊΣ ΠΣ ) [ἢ νόσος ὑπ ἀμετρία ——— ἄλλα μέρη ἀμαθίας ΒΗ A ‘ / τὸ μὴ κατειδότα ae τις τι δοκεῖν εἰδέναι. Hence instruction is = δημιουργικαὶ διδασκαλίαι = - παιδεία = νουθετητικὴ ἔλεγχος, 3ut ignor- ance, and therefore instruction also, is two- fold: the more un- manage- able kind being stu- pidity, or that ignor- ance which the mind mistakes for know- ledge. 54 MAATOQNOS | | OEAI. Ti οὖν; καταφανές πῇ σοι τὸ viv ζητού- Ρ- 229. μενον ; EE. ᾿Αγνοίας δ᾽ οὖν μέγα τί μοι δοκῶ καὶ χαλε- ὁ Ν ᾽ ΄, Cas 5 a a ” ΓΤ ΣΝ TOV ἀφωρισμένον ὁρᾷν εἰδος, πᾶσι τοῖς ἄλλοις αὐτῆς / / 5 ἀντίσταθμον μέρεσιν. ΘΕΙ͂Α. Ποῖον δή: ΞῈ. Τὸ μὴ κατειδότα τι δοκεῖν εἰδέναι: de οὗ ’ fa “ / κινδυνεύει πάντα ὅσα διανοίᾳ σφαλλόμεθα γίγνεσθαι πᾶσιν. 10 EAT. ᾿Αλλ. Ee K Ν δὴ Ν / 3 {/ ΄σ > / yi. αι On και TOUT γε οἰμαι μονῷ τὴς uyvolas ἀμαθία τοὔνομα προσρηθῆναι. ΘΕΑΙ. avy γε. EE. Τί δὲ δὴ τῷ τῆς διδασκαλικῆς ἄρα μέρει τῷ A , / τ τοῦτο amaAAaTTovTL λεκτέον ; ΘΕΑΙ. Οἶμαι μὲν οὖν, ὦ ξένε, τὸ μὲν ἄλλο δημι- 3. ᾿Αγνοίας δ᾽ οὖν] Badham: ““᾿Αγνοίας γ᾽ οὖν legendum : est enim responsio aliqua ex parte assentientis.” So also the old editions. The words as they stand certainly take no account of the question, but continue the previous speech. 5. ἀντίσταθμον]) “ Which may be weighed against all the other parts of ignorance put together.” The word belongs to tragedy. Cf. Soph. El. 561: ὡς ---- ἀντίσταθμον τοῦ θηρὸς ἐκ- θύσειε τὴν αὑτοῦ κόρην. For χαλεπὸν = difficult to handle, ef. Symp. 204 a: αὐτὸ γὰρ τοῦτο χαλεπόν ἐστιν ἡ ἀμαθία. 7. VO μὴ κατειδότα τι δοκεῖν εἰδέναι] See, amongst other places where the ignorant conceit of knowledge is dis- tinguished from conscious ig- norance, Phil. 48 d,e; Legg. 9, 860d; 863 ¢; 10,886b; Symp. l.e.; Pheedr. 275 b. Ale. 118 a: αὕτη ἄρ᾽ ἡ ἄγνοια τῶν κακῶν αἰτία καὶ ἡ ἐπονείδιστος ἀμαθία. δι’ οὗ πάντα----πᾶσιν] Because men never act without think- ing they know. 8. πάντα ὅσα σφαλλόμεθα = πάντα τὰ γιγνόμενα ἡμῖν σφάλ- ματα. Cf. supr. 2206 6: éca— καθαίρεται, and note. 11. μόνῳ] Badham conjectures μορίῳ, but μόνῳ has more point. “This alone earns the title of stupidity.” Cf. Symp. 222 a: νοῦν ἔχοντας---μόνους τῶν λόγων. 14. Ti—exréov] Se. ὄνομα. 16. τὸ μὲν ἀλλο---διδασκαλίας] “The part which is separated from this includes instruction in various handicrafts.” A simi- lar division is made in Phileb. d ΣΟΦΙΣΤΗΣ: Ρ. 229. ουργικὰς διδασκαλίας, τοῦτο δὲ ἐνθάδε γε παιδείαν δι ἡμῶν κεκλῆσθαι. 55 , ΞΕ, Καὶ yap σχεδόν, ὦ Θεαίτητε, ἐν πᾶσιν “EA- » \ A c ΄ ΕΣ a fy > Anow. ἀλλὰ yap ἡμῖν ETL καὶ τοῦτο σκεπτέον, εἰ JA 7 > Ν a ΕΣ yA / , / ἄτομον ἤδη ἐστὶ πᾶν, ἢ τινα €XOV διαίρεσιν ἀξίαν 5 » / ἐπωνυμίας. ΘΕΑΙ. Οὐκοῦν χρὴ σκοπεῖν. EE. Δοκεῖ τοίνυν μοι καὶ τοῦτο ἔτι πῃ σχίζεσθαι. ΘΕΑΙ. Κατὰ τί: EE. Τῆς ἐν τοῖς λόγοις διδασκαλικῆς ἡ μὲν τρα- / vy c Ν 53 Ν so n ,ὔ χυτέρα τις ἔοικεν ὁδὸς εἶναι, τὸ δ᾽ ἕτερον αὐτῆς μό- / ριον λειοτερον. ΘΕΑΙ. To ποῖον δὴ τούτων ἑκάτερον λέγωμεν; μ- \ \ > 7 ΄ @ \ HE. To μεν ἀρχαιοπρεπές τι πάτριον, ᾧ προς 556: οὐκοῦν ἡμῖν τὸ pev — δη- μιουργικόν ἐστι τῆς περὶ τὰ μαθή- ματα ἐπιστήμης, τὸ δὲ περὶ παι- δείαν καὶ τροφήν ; Cf. also Protag. 322 b, where δημιουργικὴ is op- posed to πολιτική. 1. παιδεία") The idea of education in the higher sense is due to Greek philosophy : appearing first in the saying attributed to several of the early thinkers, πολυμαθίη νόον ov διδάσκει. δ ἡμῶν] “ By our means.” I. 6. The use of the word by the Athenians has given it currency throughout this part of Greece: ‘a nobis (Athe- niensibus) nominis hujus auc- toribus.”—Heindorf. * 5. πᾶν] Cf. Parmen. Fr. 61: ov mor ἔην οὐδ᾽ ἔσται, ἐπεὶ νῦν ἔστιν ὁμοῦ πᾶν, ἕν ξυνεχές. 1. 6. whether we have reached the ἄτμητον εἴδος. 8. καὶ τοῦτο ἔτι πῃ σχίζεσθαι] “This, like the rest, admits of being divided somewhere.” The words καὶ τοῦτο ἔτι are in exact keeping with ἤδη πᾶν supr. Cf.supr.222¢. Hermann’s conjecture, κατὰ τοῦτο, is wn- necessary and awkward, be- cause anticipating the ques- tion, and because τοῦτο has no antecedent. 10. Τῆς ---διδασκαλικῆς] παιδεία is assumed to be equivalent to ἡ ἐν τοῖς λόγοις διδασκαλική. ἡ μὲν --- 650s] Cf. Aristoph. Ran. sub. init. 13. λέγωμεν] Stallb. λέγομεν, from Z1.i: perhaps rightly. 14. Td pev—orehrovrar]| “ The one a time-honoured ancestral mode, which men used chiefly towards their sons, and many still do so when they see them fallen into some error, either speaking roughly to them, or else more softly expostulating : which varieties may be cor- The art which removes this has the peculiarly Greek name of Παιδεία---- Education. Of which there are two modes recognized: the old- fashioned admonitory system of moral training, and an- other which may be 56 \ cn , 5 is / τον Ν sf TOUS υἱεῖς μάλιστ᾽ ἐχρωντὸ TE καὶ ETL πολλοὶ χρῶνται p. 229) \ fal “ ᾽ -“ »" 7 / \ \ τὰ VUV, OTAV AUTOLS EEAUAPTAVWOL τι, TA μεν χαλε- p. 230 ITAATQNOZ / \ \ / / ‘ παίνοντες, TA δὲ μαλθακωτέρως παραμυθούμενοι" τὸ > 5 7 NP) / 7 δ δ᾽ οὖν ξύμπαν αὐτὸ ὀρθοτατα εἰποι τις ἂν νουθετη- ‘ 5 TUK). SEAI. Ἔστιν οὕτως. EE. Τὸ δέ γε, [ὡς] εἴξασί τινες αὖ λόγον ἑαυτοῖς rectly included in the general name of admonition.” True “ Now for the other method. It would seem that some had reflected with themselves that stupidity is always involun- tary, and that no one who thinks himself wise will ever care to be a learner of those matters in which he fancies himself to be accomplished : moreover, that education in the form of admonition spends a world of labour with but small result.” “ And they were right.” “ Therefore they address themselves differently to the task of exorcising this con- ceit.” The two modes of correc- tion may be compared with the two kinds of legislation (with and without explanation and persuasion) mentioned in the Laws, of which the former is there preferred: see esp. Legg. 4,720 sqq. So far was Plato from reversing his judg- ment, as Mr. Grote (vol. iii. p. 355, note on p. 354) supposes, respecting the νουθετητικὸν εἶδος τῆς παιδείας, which Protagoras advocates, Prot. 325d: καὶ ἐὰν μὲν ἑκὼν πείθηται, --- εἰ δὲ μή, ὥσπερ ξύλον διεστραμμένον καὶ καμπτόμενον εὐθύνουσιν ἀπειλαῖς καὶ πληγαῖς. (14.) ἀρχαιοπρεπές τι πάτριον] A tragic expression; οἵ, Aesch. Prom. 409: μεγαλοσχήμονα τ᾽ dp- χαιοπρεπῆ---τίμαν, where two ad- jectives are similarly combined. 2. ὅταν avrois] Cf. Rep. 1, 343 a: ὅς ye αὐτῇ οὔτε πρό- βατα οὔτε ποιμένα γιγνώσκεις. 7. Τὸ δέ ye] The Bodleian, in common with most of the MSS., omits ὡς (before εἴξασι), which is not necessary, and if inserted will hardly affect the sense, for ὡς εἴξασιν ἡγη- σασθαι is equivalent to ἡγή- σαντο, ὡς εἴξασι. Cf. infr. 263 d: ὡς ἔοικε--- γίγνεσθαι, and note. The introduction of a sentence with τὸ δὲ out of construction, or rather in apposition, is very frequent in Plato, and scarcely needs illustration. Compare, however, Polit. 263 ὁ: τὸ δέ ye, ὦ πάντων ἀνδρειότατε, τάχ᾽ ἂν, εἴ που φρόνιμόν ἐστί τι ζῶον ἕτερον, οἷον δοκεῖ τὸ τῶν γε- ράνων, ἤ τι τοιοῦτον ἄλλο, κατὰ ταὐτὰ ἴσως διονομάζοι. If ὡς is retained, which is perhaps better on the whole, ὡς εἴξασί τινες ἡγήσασθαι κιτ.λ. IS equi- valent to ἡγησάμενοί τινες, ὡς εἴξασι ---- στέλλονται. λόγον ἑαυτοῖς δόντες] “ On re- flection.” Cf. Hdt. I. 34: Ὃ & ΣΟΦΙΣΤΗΣ. 57 , ¢ , ΡΞ ’ 3 ‘ p. 230. δόντες ἡγήσασθαι πᾶσαν ἀκούσιον ἀμαθίαν εἶναι, καὶ a > / “Ὁ Ν sv 53 μαθεῖν οὐδέν ποτ᾽ ἂν ἐθέλειν τὸν οἰόμενον εἰναι \ ΄ Ὁ 7 ΄ Ν ΗΑ \ δὲ σοῴον τούτων ὧν οἴοιτο πέρι δεινὸς εἶναι, μετὰ δὲ A ΄ \ \ - A / πολλοῦ πόνου TO νουθετητικὸν Eidos τῆς παιδείας Ν / σμικρὸν avureww. ΘΈΑΙ. ᾿Ορθῶς γε νομίζοντες. HE. To τοι ταύτης τῆς δόξης ἐπὶ ἐκβολὴν ἄλλῳ ΄ ip τρόπῳ στέλλονται. ΘΕΑΙ. Tix δή: μ-| “ e x ͵ / ͵ , ’ BE. Διερωτῶσιν ὧν ἂν οἰἴηταί τίς τι πέρι λέγειν λέγων μηδέν: εἶθ᾽ ἅτε πλανωμένων τὰς δόξας ῥᾳδίως 35 i4 Ν / ἊΝ lad , > 3 aN ἐξετάζουσι, και συνάγοντες δὴ TOL Aoyous εἰς TAUTOV / / \ > ΄ τιθέασι παρ᾽ ἀλλήλας, τιθέντες δὲ ἐπιδεικνύουσιν 3 \ « a “ Ν a > ΄σ Ν \ > Ν QUTAS αὐταῖς αμὰ TEpt τῶν αὐτῶν προς TH αὐτὰ ἐπειδὴ ἐξηγέρθη καὶ λόγον ἑαυτῷ ἔδωκε, κατορρωδήσας τὸν ὄνειρον ἄγεται τῷ παιδὶ γυναῖκα. Soph. Cid. Rex. 583: Οὐκ, εἰ διδοίης γ᾽, ὡς ἐγώ, σαυτῷ λόγον. 2. οὐδέν mor ἂν ἐθέλειν] So Bodl. ΔΠΙ., Stallbaum. Edd. Vet. οὐδέποτε. It deserves mention that Heindorf had at one time been led to con- jecture οὐδέν, because of τού- tev following, but had after- wards contented himself with making depend on περι. 3. σοφὸν---δεινὸς] Plato iro- nically uses the words as syno- nymous. Cf. Theet. 173 b: δεινοί τε καὶ σοφοὶ γεγονότες, ws οἴονται. ΤΌ. 177 a: κἂν εἵπωμεν ὅτι, ἂν μὴ ἀπαλλαγῶσι τῆς δει- νότητος K.T.A. μετὰ δὲ πολλοῦ πόνου] This is the same lesson which experience has taught to schoolmasters and others with- , Τούτων in our own memory. But few of them have found so good a substitute for the old- fashioned νουθετητικὴ as the Socratic elenchus. 7. Te to] Cf. Thest. 179 ἃ : τῷ τοι--μᾶλλον σκεπτέον. 8. στέλλονται] “ Address themselves.” Στέλλεσθαι is si- milarly used in Legg. το, 892: οὐκοῦν τὰ μετὰ ταῦτα ἐπ᾽ αὐτὸ δὴ τοῦτο στελλώμεθα ; Lh 893 Ὁ, Phileb. 50 e. 10, Διερωτῶσιν (τι τοὐτωνῚ περὶ ὧν ἂν τις οἴηται τι λέγειν. II. πλανωμένων ὅδο. τῶν ἀνθρώ- πων. Cf. 1 Alcib. 117 a: περὶ τῶν δικαίων Kat ἀδίκων----ἀποκρινό- μενός φης πλανᾶσθαι ; δῆλον ὅτι διὰ τὸ μὴ εἰδέναι περὶ αὐτῶν, διὰ ταῦτα πλανᾷ; Lys. 214 a. 14. περὶ τῶν αὐτῶν κιτ.λ.] CF. Rep. 4,436 6: ὥς ποτέ τι τὸ αὐτὸ ὃν ἅμα κατὰ τὸ αὐτὸ πρὸς τὸ > > €lTa OV > \ > ,ὔ ,ὔ αὐτὸ τἀναντία πάθοι. on 10 thus de- scribed. Reflecting that no man wishes to be stu- pid, and that the source of error lies in the con- ceit of wisdom ; observing, too, that the old me- thod was laborious and had small result, there are some who address themselves differently to the task a ae en I na of getting rid of this conceit. Cross-ques- tioning men on points of which they areassured, they drive them into contradic- 58 MAATOQNOZ \ > \ > / ec ’ . ΄σ id “ \ | κατα TAVTA EVAVTLAS. οι ὃ OPWVTES E€AUTOLS μεν p- 230. Ν \ \ A e ~ Ν χαλεπαίνουσι, πρὸς δὲ τοὺς ἄλλους ἡμεροῦνται, καὶ / \\ ΄σ / ΄- Ν » \ / Ν τούτῳ δὴ τῷ τρόπῳ τῶν περὶ αὐτοὺς μεγάλων καὶ la fen 7 a σκληρῶν So&av ἀπαλλάττονται πασῶν τε ἀπαλλα- γιγνομένην. νομίζοντες γάρ, @ 1. ὁρῶντες] Se. τὸ ἐπιδεικνύο- μενον. ἑαυτοῖς μὲν χαλεπαίνουσι] Cf. Thet. 168 a: σονται κιτιλ. 2. πρὸς δὲ τοὺς ἄλλους ἡμ.7 Cf, Theeet. 210: ἧττον ἔσει βαρὺς τοῖς συνοῦσι καὶ ἡμερώτερος, σω- 6. ‘ τὴ , εαὐτοὺυς alTla- φρόνως οὐκ οἰόμενος εἰδέναι ὃ μὴ οἶσθα. 3. τῶν περὶ αὐτοὺς] “ Which encompass them.” The same expression might be used of a disease, or of unwholesome hu- mours. Perhaps αὑτοὺς should be read. The Bodl. (ut szepe) has no breathing. 4. σκληρῶν] “ Stiff,’ “un- bending,” “unyielding.” Cf. Crat. 487 d: τὸ σκληρόν τε καὶ ἀμετάστροφον, ὃ δὴ ἄρρατον κα- λεῖται. Charm. 175 d: οὕτως ἡμῶν εὐηθικῶν τυχοῦσα ἡ ζήτησις καὶ οὐ σκληρῶν. Theet. 155 6: σκληρούς γε λέγεις καὶ ἀντιτύπους ἀνθρώπους. πασῶν τε ἀπαλλαγῶν ἀκούειν [τε]ἡδίστην] TheVat.alone rejects the second re. If this is fol- lowed, the displacement of re may be defended from Rep. 9, 572 a, Phedr. 269 6. For the cogn. accus., cf. Rep. 6, 496 e. 5. βεβαιότατα γιγνομένην] Cf. Legg. 2, 665 6: καλὸν ἡ ἀλή- θεια καὶ μόνιμον. 6. νομίζοντες γὰρὶ The con- struction of this sentence is broken off by the introduction an > / « 7 Ν lal ’ 7 5γῶν ἀκούειν [τε] ἡδίστην καὶ τῷ πάσχοντι βεβαιοτατα 5) mat φίλε, οἱ καθαί- and application of the simile, as in Phileb. 58 ¢: ἢ δ᾽ εἶπον —eiropev. Rep. 3, 402 b, 6. Thezt. 197 c, alib. The idea of νομίζοντες is then resumed in the finite verb διενοήθησαν, and the apodosis is postponed, or rather is absorbed into the sub- ordinate clause πρὶν ἄν τις--πλείω δὲ μή. By a kind of attraction the latter part of the sentence follows the analogy of the ὥσπερ clause. For ἀκούειν ἡδίστην, cf. Apol. 23 ¢: of νέοι---αὐτόματοι χαίρουσιν ἀκούοντες ἐξεταζομένων τῶν ἀνθρώπων, The regularity of the sentence might be re- stored thus: ταὐτὸν διανοηθέντες €keiv0l,—kaTagTnoavTes,—e&ehov- Tes,— καθαρὸν ἀπέφηναν k.T.D. “ For such, dear youth, are the thoughts of their purifiers. Just as the physicians of the body think (νενομίκασι, frequentative perfect) that a body cannot profit by the food received, until the obstructing matters are cast forth, in like manner these reason about the mind, that it will never obtain benefit from the learning which it receives, until, by cross-examination, the person cross-examined be put to shame ; and a riddance being made of the notions which obstruct learning, the man is purged, and thinks he knows no more than what he really knows.” ΣΟΦΕΣΤΗΙΣ. 59 > /, a ΄ \ / » 4 Pp. 230. ροντες αὐτοὺς, ὠσπέερ OL περὶ τὰ σώματα ιατροὶ / \ / a cal , νενομίκασι μὴ πρότερον ἂν τῆς προσφερομένης τρο- “Ὁ > / / a s » \ 3 / φῆς ἀπολαύειν δύνασθαι σῶμα, πρὶν av τὰ ἐμποδί- ζντα ἐν αὐτῷ κβάλ ITC ὶ ὶ ψυχῆ αὐτῷ τις ἐκβάλῃ, ταὐτὸν καὶ περὶ ψυχῆς / - \ Α \ “ “-“ διενοήθησαν ἐκεῖνοι, μὴ πρότερον αὐτὴν ἕξειν τῶν 5 / ΄ Μἷ Ἂ ᾽ , προσφερομένων μαθημάτων ovnow, πρὶν av ἐλέγχων Χ 3 ΄, > > / / \ τις τὸν ἐλεγχόμενον εἰς αἰσχύνην καταστησας, τὰς - , / / Ν τοῖς μαθήμασιν ἐμποδίους δόξας ἐξελών, καθαρὸν » ᾿ A « 7 “ Ss , / ἀποφήνῃ Kal ταῦτα ἡγούμενον, ἅπερ οἶδεν, εἰδέναι / / \ / μονα, πλείω δὲ μη. 10 OEAI. Βελτίστη γοῦν καὶ σωφρονεστάτη τῶν ἢ χὰ oS ἕξεων αὕτη. jm \ = \ ΄, Gun 5 , : N SE. Ava ταῦτα δὴ παντα ἡμῖν, ὦ Θεαίτητε, Kai \ yx / € + Z Tov ἔλεγχον λεκτέον ὡς ἄρα μεγίστη καὶ κυριωτάτη an 7 Ν / 3 τῶν καθαρσεών ἐστι, καὶ τὸν ἀνέλεγκτον αὖ νομι-τ / ΕΝ Ν 7 Χ « / BA \ στέον, av Kal τυγχάνῃ βασιλεὺς ὃ μέγας ὧν, τὰ / , + , \ \ μέγιστα ἀκάθαρτον ὀντα, ἀπαίδευτον τε καὶ αἰσχρὸν , - ἃ / 7 γεγονέναι ταῦτα, a καθαρώτατον καὶ κάλλιστον ΕΣ Ν x 2:7) > / 3 ἔπρεπε TOV ὄντως ἐσόμενον εὐδαίμονα εἰναι. σιλεὺς εὐδαίμων. 6. προσφερομένων] The verb προσφέρειν is more often applied Lys. 209 e: > > ΄ Πρὸς Atos, ἢν δ᾽ ἐγώ, τί ἄρα 6 to physic than to diet (Thucyd. Hee Plato Charm. 157 Ὁ, Phedr. 270 b), but is conve- nient here as equally applicable to food and instruction. Cf. Legg. 7,809 6: πότερον εἰς ἀκρί- βειαν τοῦ μαθήματος ἰτέον ---ἢ τὸ παράπαν οὐδὲ προσοιστέον. I3—15. καὶ ---- καὶ | only—but.” 15. τὸν ἀνέλεγκτον] Cf. Apol. 38 a: ὁ ἀνεξέταστος βίος οὐ βιω- τὸς ἀνθρώπῳ. 16. ἂν καὶ βασιλεὺς ὁ μέγας ἢ] Compare Theet. 175 ¢: 7 βα- if “ Not μέγας βασιλεύς; κιτ.λ. Euthyd. 274 ἃ: Μακαρίζω dp’ ὑμᾶς ἔγωγε τοῦ κτήματος πολὺ μᾶλλον ἢ μέ- γαν βασιλέα τῆς ἀρχῆς. And for τὰ μέγιστα, in which there is perhaps a slight allusion to the greater mysteries, cf. Rep. 6,504 a: ποῖα δὴ λέγεις μαθήματα μέγιστα κιτιλ. Polit. 301 ἃ. 17. ἀπαίδευτόν τε καὶ αἰσχρὸν] Since it was proved that ἀμα- Gia, of which education is the remedy, is a kind of αἶσχος. Supr. 228 d. 19. ἔπρεπε] Sc. γεγονέναι. 2 ~ or tions ; ceiving which, the men are angry with themselves and less disposed to be con- tentious towards others. In this way they are most surely re- lieved by an opera- tion, which it is de- lightful to witness, of the stubborn tumors of self-con- ceit. For mental, like bodily food, can do no good to the sick man, until the noxious obstruc- tions of vanity are removed, and a wholesome state of in- tellectual humility has been restored. Thus refu- tation is the great- est of all purgations: and even the Great King, if he has not undergone this test, is uneducated and there- fore un- happy. σι 00 ΠΛΆΤΩΝΟΣ OEAI. Παντάπασι μὲν οὖν. am. Te «δέ; \ , , -“ τους Ταυτῃ χρωμενοῦυς ΤΏ TEXVYN) p- 230.}} / / > \ \ \ ΄σ Ἀ τίνας φήσομεν; ἐγὼ μὲν γὰρ φοβοῦμαι σοφιστας p. 231. φάναι. ΕΗ ΔΙ Tid): \ a > - ΄ J aE. Mn μεῖζον αὑτοις προσάπτωμεν γερᾶς. / Ν “ ΘΒΑΙ. ᾿Αλλὰ μὴν προσέοικε τοιούτῳ τινὶ τὰ νῦν εἰρημένα. ‘ / 7 « ΄ SE. Kat γὰρ κυνὶ λύκος, ἀγριώτατον ἡμερωτάτῳ. lal lo i 4 Χ « 7 τοτὸν δὲ ἀσφαλῆ δεῖ πάντων μάλιστα περὶ τὰς ὁμοιό- > 5 Ν [2 , TyTas ἀεὶ ποιεῖσθαι τὴν φυλακήν ὀλισθηρότατον 6. avrois]| Se. τοῖς σοφι- σταῖς. 7. τοιούτῳ τινὶ τὰ νῦν εἰρημένα] “The modes of action which have been described (e.g. the art of controversy) bear some resemblance to this purifying method of education.” 9. Καὶ yap κυνὶ λύκος] Mr. Grote remarks on this, that Plato would have objected to the wolf being placed in the same genus with the dog. He would certainly have objected to class them together as ‘tame’ or ‘wild.’ But he here recog- nizes the likeness between them, on which, had it suited his purpose, he might have dwelt to the exclusion of the difference. This illustrates the unfixed and provisional nature of Plato’s classification, but nothing more. Cf. Rep. 5, 454 b, where it is shewn that differences are no less treacher- ous than resemblances, except to those who are able κατ᾽ εἴδη συνάγειν καὶ διαιρεῖσθαι. 10. τὸν δὲ ἀσφαλῆ] The heed- ful cautious man—the cha- racter described in Soph. Cid. Rex. 616 as ὁ εὐλαβούμενος πεσεῖν. περὶ τὰς ὁμοιότητα ]) These words recal Euclides’ objection to the argument from ana- logy. Diog. Laert. II. 107: τὸν διὰ παραβολῆς λόγον ἀνήρει, λέγων ἤτοι ἐξ ὁμοίων av- τὸν ἢ ἐξ ἀνομοίων συνίστασθαι" καὶ εἰ μὲν ἐξ ὁμοίων, περὶ αὐτὰ δεῖν μᾶλλον ἢ οἷς ὁμοῖά ἐστιν ἀνα- στρέφεσθαι, εἰ δὲ ἐξ ἀνομοίων, παρ- έλκειν τὴν παράθεσιν. Cf. Pheedr. 2062 b,c, 223. Ar. Eth, Nie. VI. 3, 2: εἰ δεῖ ἀκριβολογεῖ- σθαι καὶ μὴ ἀκολουθεῖν ταῖς ὁμοι- ότησι. But Euclides dwelt merely on the logical weak- ness of comparisons: Plato here speaks practically of the danger which attends their use. Compare the consciousness of modern times on the same point, which some one has ex- pressed by saying that Analogy is like a broken reed, good to point with but not to lean upon. \ Kal |p. 231. γὰρ τὸ γένος. ZOPISTHS. ΟἹ χε \ v » Ν ‘ ὅμως δὲ ἐστωσαν' οὐ yap περὶ σμικρῶν ὅρων τὴν ἀμφισβήτησιν οἴομαι γενήσεσθαι / « / e lod ΄ ΤΟΤΕ OTTOTQAY LKAYWS φυλαττωσιν. OEAI. Οὐκοῦν τό γε εἰκός. HE. [Ἔστω δὴ διακριτικῆς τέχνης καθαρτική, καθ- 5 as \ ‘ Ν \ / 3 ΄ / αρτικῆς δὲ TO περὶ ψυχὴν μέρος ἀφωρίσθω, τούτου δὲ διδασκαλική, διδασκαλικῆς δὲ παιδευτική τῆς δὲ an € Ν \ 4 / / παιδευτικῆς ὁ περὶ τὴν μάταιον δοξζοσοφίαν γιγνο- yf > a ca , / \ μενος ἔλεγχος ev τῷ νῦν oyw παραφανέντι μηδεν ϑ, Lat 53 > e / / ἀλλ᾽ ἡμῖν εἶναι λεγέσθω πλὴν ἡ γένει γενναία σοφι- 10 / OTLKY. GHAI. Λεγέσθω μέν: ἀπορῶ δὲ ἔγωγε ἤδη διὰ τὸ πολλὰ πεφάνθαι, τί χρή ποτε ὡς ἀληθῆ λέγοντα \ or > rn + 3 Ν / και διισχυριζόμενον εἰπειν OVT@S ELVAL TOV σοφιστὴν. / \ a 7 3 na GE. Eixorws ye ov ἀπορῶν. adda τοι κἀκεῖνον 15 c a \ an yy i ’ lad “ A 57 ηγείσθαι χρὴ νῦν non σφοδρα ἀπορεῖν ὅπῃ ποτε ἔτι I. ἔστωσαν] Se. σοφισταὶ οἱ ταύτῃ χρώμενοι τῇ τέχνῃ. ΟἿ. Men. 92 d: οὗτοι μὲν γάρ, εἰ σὺ βούλει, ἔστωσαν οἱ σοφισταί. οὐ γὰρ περὶ σμικρῶν ὅρων “When they begin thoroughly to guard their confines, the contest will be for no trifling boundary.” I.e. The difference is great. The name is granted to them provisionally, with the warning that they may have to defend their title hereafter against the rightful owner. Cf. Phileb. 56 d: οὐ σμικρὸς ὅρος. Legg. 11, 916 6: ἢ μείζους ἢ ἐλάττους ὅρους ἀεὶ δεῖ διασαφεῖν. Note the false echo in φυλακήν --- φυλάττωσιν. 8. δοξοσοφίαν] The word oc- curs in Phileb. 49 a, d, and the adj. δοξόσοφος in Pheedr. 275 Ὁ. 9. παραφανέντι] “ which has appeared by a side wind, out of due course.” This inquiry did not arise directly out of the preceding: supr. 226, a, b. Cf. Theeet. 109 C: δεινότερον μέντοι πάθος ἄλλο παραφαίνεσθαι μοι δοκεῖ. Νῦν is to be taken, ὑπερβάτως, with the participle. ΤΟ. ἡ γένει γενναία σοφ.] Cf. Soph. Cid. Rex. 1469: ἴθ᾽ ὦ γονῇ γενναῖε. Compare the tragic grandiloquence of Rep.5,454 a: ἦ γενναία ἡ δύναμις κιτιλ. It is not meant to distinguish the So- phist “ of a noble stamp” from the “ degenerate variety.” 13. ὡς ἀληθῆ λέγοντα] “What definition of the Sophist one may assert with entire confidence.” τό. ἀπορεῖν] There is an allu- sion to the literal meaning = ἄνευ πόρου, “ haying no passage for escape.” But by what name shall the master of this art be called ? The func- tions as- signed to the Sophist bear some relation to this. And yet he seems scarce worthy of so high a dignity. Analogies areslippery ground, The savage wolf wears some re- semblance to the gen- tle dog. et us, however, grant him this pro- visionally, foreseeing that he will have to fight hard here- after for his claim. Weare em- barrassed with the number of our defini- tions ; the only com- fort is that the So- phist’s embarrass- ment must be still greater. We have surrounded him : let us now close in upon him. have had glimpses of him as a 62 ΠΛΑΤΩΝΟΣ διαδύσεται τὸν λόγον ὀρθὴ γὰρ ἡ παροιμία, τὸ τὰς p. 231} c / \ eZ 53 / ΄ 2. QA ἁπάσας μὴ ῥάᾷδιον εἶναι διαφεύγειν. νῦν οὖν καὶ tA > / > a μάλιστα επιθετέον αὐτῷ. ΘΕΑΙ. Καλῶς λέγεις. ΞΕ, Πρῶτον δὴ στάντες οἷον ἐξαναπνεύσωμεν, Ν \ « qn 5 \ 7 “ ΕῚ / καὶ πρὸς ἡμᾶς αὑτοὺς διαλογισώμεθα ἅμα ἀναπαυο- ᾽ὔ e / id 5 « \ 7 lal μενοι,--φέρε, ὁπόσα ἡμῖν ὃ σοφιστὴς πέφανται. δοκῶ τῇ 7 Ν an c , / μὲν yap, TO πρῶτον εὑρέθη νέων καὶ πλουσίων ἐμ- μισθος θηρευτής. OEAI. Ναί HE. To δέ γε δεύτερον ἔμπορός τις περὶ τὰ τῆς ψυχῆς μαθήματα. ΘΕΑΙ. Πάνυ γε. Αι » a , =H. Τρίτον δὲ apa ov περὶ ταὐτὰ ταῦτα κάπηλος ’ὔ 15 ἀνεφάνη 5 OEAI. Nai. καὶ τέταρτόν ye αὐτοπώλης περὶ τὰ μαθήματα ἡμῖν. I. τὰς amdoas| Heindorf supplies λαβὰς, comparing Phi- leb. 13 d: ἀνιέναι ἐς τὰς ὁμοίας. But the word διαφεύγειν, and the whole context, rather sug- gest the metaphor of a chase. Some such word as ὅρμας, or πείρας, would therefore supply the meaning better. 2. καὶ “ Now therefore is the very time of all others to set upon him.” καὶ gives an emphasis to the clause in op- position to the previous doubt. Similar idiomatic uses of καὶ are Symp. 177 b: τοῦτο μὲν ἧττον καὶ θαυμαστόν. Lege. 6, 752d: τὰς μὲν οὖν ἄλλας καὶ βραχύτερον ἔργον. 5. στάντες) Like men who have been stooping and press- ing forwards. ἐξαναπν.] ἐξ seems to im- ply turning aside from the pursuit (‘standing out,’ Shak- speare) for a breathing while. Compare ἐξανιστάναι. 4. φέρε, ὁπόσα] φέρε, like ἀμέλει, has become a sort of particle, and is retained in the indirect form. Cf. Theet. 190 Ὁ: ὅτι παντὸς μᾶλλον τό τοι καλὸν αἰσχρόν. Lb. ¢: ὡς παν- τάπασιν ἄρα k.T.d. δοκῶ μὲν γὰρ] δοκῶ is here used parenthetically, like οἴει in Theet. 147 a. For μὲν, ef. supr. 230 e, alib. 11. τὰ τῆς ψυχῆς μαθήματα] A pleonastic expression, sug- gested by the analogy of ἡ τοῦ σώματος tpopy. Wid. supr. 224 a. 17. ἡμῖν] Heindorf added jv p. 231. e ΣΟΦΙΣΤῊΣ, 63 BE. ᾿Ορθῶς ἐμνημόνευσας. πέμπτον δ᾽ ἐγὼ πει- 7 ράσομαι μνημονεύειν" τῆς γὰρ ἀγωνιστικῆς περὶ λόγους ἦν τις ἀθλητής, τὴν ἐριστικὴν τέχνην ἀφωρι- σμένος. ΘΕΑΙ. Ἦν γὰρ οὖν. ΞΕ. Τό γε μὴν ἕκτον ἀμφισβητήσιμον μέν, ὅμως δ᾽ y, > lal ͵ lal > / ἐθεμεν αὐτῷ συγχωρήσαντες δοζῶν ἐμποδίων μα- , Ν Ν \ SYoUN 3 θημασι περὶ ψυχὴν καθαρτὴν αὐτὸν εἰναι. ΘΕΑΙ. Παντάπασι μὲν οὖν. μ--ἰ 5 > ἘΠῚ πὶ y 7, A SE. Ap οὖν ἐννοεῖς, ὅταν ἐπιστήμων τις πολλῶν / a \ / / / \ φαίνηται, μίας δὲ TEXVNS OVOMATL TT POO AYOPEVIT AL, TO from conjecture. But ἡμῖν may depend on the verbal meaning of αὐτοπώλης περὶ τὰ μαθήματα. “ One who sells us learned wares of his own manufac- ture.” 2. τῆς ἀγωνιστικῆς περὶ λόγους ἀθλητής] τῆς ay. is partitive; and περὶ λόγους is to be joined with ἀθλητής. “Under the head of contention he appeared as a champion in argument.” 3. ἀφωρισμένος] “ Having ap- propriated to himself.” Perf. pass. with middle signification. Cf. infr. 268 sub fin.: τῆς ποιή- σεως ἀφωρισμένον ἐν λόγοις τὸ θαυματοποιϊκόν μόριον. 6. Τὸ ἕκτον is nominative to ἀμφισβητήσιμον ἦν, but must be again supplied as the ad- verbial accusative with ἔθεμεν —eiva, like τὸ πρῶτον εὑρέθη above. “ His sixth character was open to dispute, but still we so far yielded to his claim that we described him, sixthly, as a purger of conceits which obstruct learning in the region of the mind.” 7. μαθήμασι] The Bodl. MS., with A.1., has μάθησιν. 10. ἾΔρ᾽ οὖν ἐννοεῖς ---προσαγο- ρεύει] “ Do you perceive, then, that when one who receives his name from a single art seems to command various pro- vinces, this appearance is not to be trusted, but whoever has such an impression of any science is clearly unable to dis- cern that point of it wherein these various parts of know- ledge meet, whence he gives many names instead of one to the man who knows them.” We have had various glimpses of the Sophist, but have no- where been able to get a clear view of him. Why is this? Because we have not yet seized the leading principle of his art, if indeed there be a leading principle. When we remem- ber that wrreality is afterwards proved to be the Sophist’s principle, the irony of the present passage becomes ma- nifest. 11. τὸ φάντασμα τοῦτο] Cf. on huntsman, amerchant, a shop- keeper, a manufac- turer, a mental athlete. — But we are still to seek for a clear and con- sistent view. lip: Transition to 11. The notion of contro- versy seemed to approach most nearly to him. Suppose we follow him upon this track. 04 ΠΙΛΑΤΏΝΟΣ φάντασμα τοῦτο ὡς οὐκ ἐσθ᾽ ὑγιές, ἀλλὰ δῆλον ὡς p. 232:}} c ’ > Ν / / > / ” ὁ πάσχων αὐτὸ πρὸς τινα τέχνην οὐ δύναται κατιδεῖν — » ΄“ ’ a > A / \ / “ / EKELVO αὑτῆς, εἰς ὃ παντα TA μαθήματα ταῦτα βλέπει, b \ Ν σ΄: » , > > ΓΑ Ν ΕΣ » Ἁ διὸ καὶ πολλοῖς ὀνόμασιν ἀνθ᾽ ἑνὸς τὸν ἐχοντα αὐτὰ δπροσαγορεύει ; “- 7 SEAL. Κινδυνεύει τοῦτο ταύτη πῃ μάλιστα πεφυ- κέναι. — \ / ς “ “ΩΝ > lad / ΠῚ EE. Μὴ τοίνυν ἡμεῖς γε αὐτὸ ἐν τῇ ζητήσει δι » / 7 > > > ’ a “ apylav πάσχωμεν, ἀλλ᾽ ἀναλάβωμεν πρῶτον τῶν Ν τς A 4 7 τοπερὶ τὸν σοφιστὴν εἰρημένων. EV yap Ti μοι μάλιστα A 3 XN a Karepavn αὑτὸν μηνῦον. Ν ΄ OEAI. To ποῖον ; Ν οι ΒΩ 9 HE. ᾿Αντιλογικὸν αὐτὸν ἐφαμεν εἶναί που. ΘΕΑΙ. Ναί. fal 7 A =e. Ti δ᾽; ov καὶ τῶν ἄλλων αὐτοῦ / 15 TOUTOU διδάσκαλον γίγνεσθαι ; GEAI. Τί μήν ; EE. Σκοπῶμεν δὴ περὶ τίνος ἄρα καὶ φασὶν οἱ A at 3 fd e \ / Cages 3 τοιοῦτοι ποιεῖν ἀντιλογικούς. ἡ δὲ σκέψις ἡμῖν ἐξ Phileb. 57 6: ἐν τούτοις δὲ ap οὔ τέχνην φθεγξάμενος, εἰς δόξαν καταστήσας ὡς μιᾶς, πάλιν ὡς δυοῖν ἐπανερώτᾳ τινα ὡς ὁμώνυμον τούτοιν αὐτοῖν K.T.A. 2. 6 πάσχων αὐτὸ πρός τινα] Le. ᾧ φαίνεται τὸ τοιοῦτο περί τινος τέχνης. Cf, Ar. Pol. ΤΥ. 7. 5. προσαγορεύει] Sc. ὁ πάσχων αὐτό. 9. ἀναλάβωμεν πρῶτον] ““ Let us begin by reviewing some of our results.” The word is used absolutely in the same technical sense in Thest. 187 ¢: *Ap’ οὖν ἔτ᾽ ἄξιον περὶ δόξης ἀναλαβεῖν πάλιν; Phileb. 60 d: νῦν ὁστι- σοῦν ἐπαναλαβὼν ὀρθότερον εἰ- mato. Hence it is unnecessary to insert ἕν with Heindorf or τι with C. et corr. B. πρῶτον is used adverbially, ut supra : TP@TOV OLOV σταντες. 18. καὶ gives emphasis to the question as raising a fresh point in connexion with the pre- ceding. They profess to make men controversialists. Well, on what subject? Cf. Euthyd. 272 ἃ: ἵνα εἰδῶ, 6 τι καὶ μαθη- σόμεθα. 19. ἐξ ἀρχῆς ---τῇδέ πῃ) “In examining this let us take a comprehensive survey, and begin as follows.” For ἐξ ἀρ- xns, cf. Theeet. 180 d. ΣΟΦΙΣΤΗΣ. 65 Ρ. 232. ἀρχῆς ἔστω τῇδέ πῃ. φέρε, περὶ τῶν θείων, ba" Cc > fal “- ΄ Gare a Ν a A ἀφανῆ τοῖς πολλοῖς, ap ἱκανοὺς ποιοῦσι τοῦτο δρᾷν; ΘΕΑΙ. Λέγεται [γ]οῦν δὴ περὶ αὐτῶν ταῦτα. A oa a HE. Ti δ᾽ ὅσα φανερὰ γῆς τε καὶ οὐρανοῦ καὶ 5 lal \ ΄ τῶν περὶ τὰ τοιαῦτα ; OEAI. Ti yap; \ N 3, ΄σ , BE. ᾿Αλλὰ μὴν ev ye ταῖς ἰδίαις συνουσίαις, « , / ’ Ν » / / \ / OTTOTaVY γενέσεως TE και OQUVOLAS πέρι KATA TAVT@V / , 7, ec » 7, > a κ᾿ λέγηταί τι, ξύνισμεν ὡς αὐτοί τε ἀντειπεῖν δεινοὶ ΄ὔ y σ ο “ ᾽ Ν τοὺς τε ἄλλους ὅτι ποιοῦσιν ἅπερ αὐτοὶ δυνατούς : / SEAI. Παντάπασί ye. EE. Ti δ᾽ αὖ περὶ νόμων καὶ ξυμπάντων τῶν I. περὶ τῶν θείων] Cf. Rep. 10, 598 6, where the same thing is said of the poets: καὶ τά ye θεῖα. 4. youv] The MSS., with exception of Flor. i, have οὖν. 5. ὅσα φανερά] Ar. Eth. Nie. VII. 7: ἀνθρώπου ἄλλα πολλὰ θειότερα τὴν φύσιν, οἷον φανερώ- τατά γε ἐξ ὧν ὁ κόσμος συνέστηκεν. The distinction between the visible and invisible in Divine things is perhaps the same as in Tim. 41 a: πάντες ὅσοι τε περι- πολοῦσι φανερῶς καὶ ὅσοι φαίνον- ται καθ᾽ ὅσον ἂν ἐθέλωσι θεοί. Or, possibly, the words ὅσα ἀφανῆ τοῖς πολλοῖς May suggest the difference between the or- dinary and the scientific per- ception of the heavenly mo- tions. Cf. Ib. 39 c: τῶν & ἄλλων τὰς περιόδους οὐκ ἐννενο- ηκότες ἄνθρώποι, πλὴν ὀλίγοι τῶν πολλῶν κ.τ.λ. γῆς τε καὶ οὐρανοῦ] Gen. of apposition after ἃ neut. K plur. adj., like ἄσημα ---- βοῆς Soph. Ant. 1209. 6. τῶν περὶ τὰ τοιαῦτα! Cf. Theet. 145 d: περὶ ἀστρονομίαν τε καὶ ἁρμονίας τε καὶ λογισμούς. 7. Τί γάρ ;] “ What, indeed 1 yap is the usual formula of assent, confirming the previous question: = “ You may well ask.” 8. ἔν ye ταῖς ἰδίαις συνουσίαις “In private conversations ” —Which are the proper sphere of ἀντιλογικὴ as distinguished from δικανική, to which refer- ence is presently made; ef.supr. 225 b. For the limitation with ye, cf. Theset. 204 d: rav- τὸν apa, ἔν ye τοῖς ὅσα ἐξ ἀριθμοῦ ἐστί, τό τε πᾶν προσαγορεύομεν καὶ τὰ ἅπαντα. καὶ τῶν 9. περὶ γενέσεως τε καὶ οὐσίας -- λέγηταί re] “ When any general statement is made re- specting the world of tran- sitional or of absolute Being.” Hedisputes and teaches others to dispute, about things divine, mundane, metaphy- sical, legal, political, and on the subject matter of every branch of art. The Sophist seems to have the power of disputing about all things. 66 ΠΛΑΤΩΝΟΣ πολιτικῶν, GP οὐχ ὑπισχνοῦνται ποιεῖν ἀμφισβητὴ- p. 232. / TLKOUS : OEAI. Οὐδεὶς yap av αὐτοῖς, ὡς ἔπος εἰπεῖν, / \ a « 7 διελέγετο μὴ τοῦτο ὑπισχνουμένοις. ΠῚ 4p \ \ n \ \ , μ᾿. a γε μὴν πέρι πάσῶν TE Και κατα μιᾶν « ’ὔ / ἃ Lal N\ iv4 > Ν Ν EKAOTHV TEXYNV, α δεῖ TPpOS εκᾶστον AUTOV TOV δημι- ουργὸν ἀντειπεῖν, δεδημοσιωμένα που καταβέβληται γεγραμμένα τῷ βουλομένῳ μαθεῖν. ΘΕΑΙ. Τὰ Πρωταγόρειά μοι φαίνει περί τε πάλης Ν ca) yy “ > 4 το Καὶ τῶν ἄλλων τεχνῶν εἰρηκέναι. ~ 3 ΄, τ \ HE. Kai πολλῶν ye, ὦ μακάριε, ἑτέρων. ἀτὰρ \ Ν rn » a / B59 > > / δὴ TO τῆς ἀντιλογικῆς τέχνης ap οὐκ ἐν κεφαλαίῳ ’ὔ ΧΝ 9 ΄ ec περὶ πάντων πρὸς ἀμφισβήτησιν ἱκανή Tis δύναμις Ε ? 5 εοικ εἰναι: I. ποιεῖν dud.| In the sphere of law and justice the Sophist’s business is rather to enable men to dispute than himself to hold controversy. ἀμφισβητητικούς | also the Bodl. MS. 3. Οὐδεὶς yap ἂν] Cf. Theset. 178 6: τοῦτό ye σφόδρα ὑπι- σχνεῖτο ---- ἢ οὐδείς γ᾽ ἂν αὐτῷ διελέγετο. Ib. 161 ἃ. 5. Τά γε μὴν περὶ πασῶν] With περὶ πασῶν must be sup- plied ἃ δεῖ λέγειν from the fol- lowing clause, in which the expression becomes more de- finite. 6. πρὸς ἕκαστον͵] Probably neut.: sc. ἀμφισβήτημα. αὐτὸν implies, They dictate even to the masters of each craft. 7. δεδημοσιωμένα----τῷ βουλο- μένῳ μαθεῖν] “The mysteries of each profession are published in manuals for all to learn.” 50 here Compare the imaginary case put in the Politicus, 299 6: οὐδένα yap ἀγνοεῖν τό τε ἰατρικὸν καὶ τὸ ὑγιεινὸν οὐδὲ τὸ κυβερνητικὸν καὶ ναυτικόν ἐξεῖναι γὰρ τῷ βου- λομένῳ μανθάνειν γεγραμμένα καὶ πάτρια ἔθη κείμενα. And for καταβέβληται, ef. Ar. Eth. Nie. I. 3: καίτοι πολλοὶ λόγοι πρὸς αὐτὰ καταβέβληνται. 9. Τὰ-- πάλης] Diog. Laert. 9, 8, 55, mentions the treatise of Protagoras on wrestling. That on rhetoric is mentioned in the Phedrus, 267 ¢: Πρω- ταγόρεια δὲ, ὦ Σώκρατες, οὐκ ἦν τοιαῦτα μέντοι atta; ᾿Ορθοέπειά γέ τις, ὦ ποεῖ, καὶ ἄλλα πολλὰ καὶ καλά. 12. τὸ τῆς ἀντιλογικῆς τέχνης] “ As for the province of the controversial art, does it not seem,” &e. Cf. Rep. 7, 519 Ὁ: τὸ τῆς τοιαύτης φύσεως. Legg. 3, 683 4: τὸ τοῦ μύθου. ΕΣ ΣΟΦΙΣΤῊΣ. 67 p- 232, OEAI. Φαίνεται γοῦν σχεδὸν οὐδὲν ὑπολιπεῖν. \ Ἁ Ν cal 3 lal Ν ΄ cal ~ ᾿ ΞΕ. Σὺ δὴ πρὸς θεῶν, ὦ παῖ, δυνατὸν ἡγεῖ τοῦτο; — Is this pos- ΄ \ Ἂ ε πὶ ‘ ow e , \ Ὁ sible? τάχα yap av ὑμεῖς μὲν ὀξύτερον οἱ νέοι πρὸς αὐτὸ ’,ὔ e la sy) / βλέποιτε, ἡμεῖς δε ἀμβλύτερον. \ a \ / , 7 Ρ.233.. OEAI. To ποῖον, καὶ πρὸς τί μάλιστα λέγεις 35 > ’ὔ ἴω \ ΄ / οὐ γάρ που κατανοῶ TO νῦν ἐρωτώμενον. — 7 ee , 7 > GE. Et πάντα ἐπίστασθαί τινα ἀνθρώπων ἐστὶ Inother 7 words, Is δυνατον. universal , ee rule 5 ; 5 Ἂ knowledge OEAI. Μακάριον μέντ᾽ ἂν ἡμῶν, ὦ E€ve, ἦν TO possible i, for man ? yevos. 10 That were = 5 ἘΝ ὃν ΄, ͵ Ν > , happy for EE. Πῶς οὖν av ποτέ tis πρός ye Tov ἐπιστά- yatkind. € αὐτὸς ἀνεπιστή ὧν δύναιτ᾽ ἂν ὑγιέ ἘΠ τ μενον αὑτὸς ἀνεπιστήμων ὧν δυναιτ᾽ ἂν ὑγιές TL και 7 3 ΤΟΥ ledge of λέγων αντειπεὶῖν ; a aubieet how can ΘΕΑΙ. Οὐδαμώς. αὶ / b 5 a‘ / Ν ΄-“ a SE. Τί ποτ᾽ οὖν ἂν εἴη τὸ τῆς σοφιστικῆς δυνα- 1s one dispute with those that know ? What then can be the mystery of the So- phist’s art ? τ μεως θαῦμα ; in the present passage is con- firmed by reference to 235: οὐκέτ᾽ ἐκφεύξεται---τὸ μὴ ov τοῦ γένους εἶναι τοῦ τῶν θαυματοποιῶν τις εἷς. 6. οὐ γάρ που κατανοῶ] “ For I do not think I comprehend (I suppose I do not compre- hend) the drift of your ques- tion.” πῶ is read in a few MSS., and is more pointed, but 3. ὀξύτερον οἱ νέοι] Cf. Rep. 595 6: ἐπεὶ πολλά τοι ὀξύτερον βλεπόντων ἀμβλύτερον ὁρῶντες πρότερον εἶδον. The young are here ironically challenged to use their keen eyesight to de- termine a difficult question. In Legg. 4,715 e, keen mental vi- sion is spoken of as the privi- lege of age. Nat pa Δί᾽, ὦ ξένε, καθ᾽ ἡλικίαν yap ὀξὺ βλέπεις. ΑΘ. Νέος μὲν γὰρ ὧν πᾶς ἄνθρωπος τὰ τοιαῦτα ἀμβλύτατα αὐτὸς αὑτοῦ ὁρᾷ, γέρων δὲ ὀξύτατα. For πρὸς αὐτὸ, cf. Rep. 7, 515 d, e: πρὸς τὸ φῶ-ς---βλέπειν. 5. Τὸ--- θαῦμα] “ The secret,” “mystery,” as of a juggling trick. Cf. Legg. 1, 644 ἃ 645 b,d, where man is spoken of as a puppet, or magical contrivance, of the gods. This rendering of the word does not seem to be certainly right. The vagueness of που consorts well with the puzzled tone of Thezetetus. 4. πάντα ἐπίστασθαι] Cf. Eu- thyd. 294 ο, Ar. Met. 1, 2. 15. Ti ποτε----σοφώτατοι] “What then can be the mys- tery of the Sophist’s art ?” “ Why 2” *“ T mean, how can they create an impression in the K 2 How does he raise the baseless fabric of a belief that he is all- wise ; with- out which he could not hopefor a disciple or a fee? Ιο 15 68 SEAL. Τοῦ δὴ πέρι ; ΠΛΑΤΏΝΟΣ Ρ. 233:}} oO / \ ΄σ 4 =E. Καθ᾿ ov τινα τρόπον ποτε δυνατοὶ τοῖς νέοις b δό ΄, « OS ΄ ΄, > Ν o&av παρασκευαζειν, ως εἰσι TTAVTA TAVTWV αὐτοὶ σοφώτατοι. δῆλον γὰρ ὡς εἰ μήτε ἀντέλεγον ὀρθῶς / » 7 » 7 / 7 > \ FF 5 MNTE EKELVOLS ἐφαίνοντο, φαινομενοὶ τε εἰ μηδὲν αὖ μᾶλλον ἐδόκουν διὰ τὴν ἀμφισβήτησιν εἶναι φρόνιμοι, τὸ σὸν δὴ τοῦτο, σχολῇ ToT ἂν αὐτοῖς τις χρήματα διδοὺς ἤθελεν ἂν τούτων αὐτῶν μαθητὴς γίγνεσθαι. OEAI. Σχολῇ μέντ᾽ av. BE. Νῦν δέ γ᾽ ἐθέλουσιν : OEAI. Καὶ μάλα. EE. Δοκοῦσι γάρ, οἶμαι, πρὸς ταῦτα ἐπιστημόνως ἔχειν αὐτοὶ πρὸς ἅπερ ἀντιλέγουσιν. ΘΕΑΙ. Πῶς γὰρ οὔ; minds of the youth, that they, and they alone, are in all ways the wisest of all men.” I. Τοῦ πέρι;] “ About what point?” 1. 6. What is the point which a knowledge of his mys- tery would make clear ? 2. Καθ' ὃν τινα] The indirect interrogative in a reply, as εἰ πάντα εἰδέναι just above. For πάντα, cf. Soph. Antig. 721: φῦναι τὸν ἄνδρα πάντ᾽ ἐπιστήμης πλέον. δυνατοὶ] δυνατὸς, like ἄξιος, seems sometimes to dispense with the verb εἶναι, and the re- petition of εἰσὶ is thus avoided here. 3. αὐτοὶ] Cf. Theet. 178 6: τοῦτο---ὑπισχνεῖτο πάντων διαφέ- pew αὐτός. ‘The only men.” 5. μήτε ἐκείνοις ἐφαίνοντο] For the ellipse of the infinitive, ἀντιλέγειν ὀρθῶς, compare Rep. HE. Δρῶσι δέ ye τοῦτο πρὸς ἅπαντα, φαμέν ; 4,430 d: κρείττω δὴ αὑτοῦ φαί- νονται οὐκ οἶδ᾽ ὅντινα τρόπον (sc. λέγοντες) καὶ ἄλλα ἄττα τοιαῦτα ὥσπερ ἴχνη αὐτοῦ λέγεται. Thuc. III. τό : ἀνεχώρησαν ---- ἐπειδὴ καὶ ἐκείνους εἶδον. εἰ μηδὲν] Bodl. εἰ μὴ μηδέν, with A and pr. I. 7. τὸ σὸν δὴ τοῦτο] “To quote your own observation.” 8. τούτων αὐτῶν] Sc. τοῦ ἀντι- λέγειν τε καὶ ἀμφισβητεῖν περὶ πάντων: for which rendering cf. supr. 232 Ὁ: αὐτοῦ τούτου (se. τοῦ ἀντιλογικὸν εἶναι) διδά- σκαλον γίγνεσθαι. αὐτοῖς should be repeated with μαθητ. γιγν. 13. αὐτοὶ] “ They appear (to the young man) to be them- selves well-informed on the points on which they dis- pute.” 15. Δρῶσι τοῦτο] Sc. ἀντιλέ- γουσιν. Ρ. 233. d ΣΟΦΙΣΤΗΣ. ΘΕΑΙ. Nai. 09 EE. Πάντα ἄρα σοφοὶ τοῖς μαθηταῖς φαίνονται. ΘΕΑΙ. Τί μήν ; » yf \ ΄ / , /, SE. Οὐκ ὄντες ye’ ἀδύνατον yap τοῦτο ye earn. OEAI. Πῶς yap οὐκ ἀδύνατον ; =E A & \ yf Ἀ Ν ’ > ’ bey Jae οζαστικὴν ἀρὰ τινὰ πέρι πάντων ἐπιστη- \ τ ΄σ ᾽ » / 35) > , μὴν ὁ σοφιστὴς ἡμῖν, ἀλλ᾽ οὐκ ἀλήθειαν ἔχων ἀναπε- φανται. ΘΕΑΙ. Παντάπασι μὲν οὖν. καὶ κινδυνεύει γε τὸ a ’ > / > Cal 5 ΄“ νῦν εἰρημένον ὀρθότατα περὶ αὐτῶν εἰρῆσθαι. EE. Λάβωμεν τοίνυν σαφέστερόν τι παράδειγμα \ , πέρι TOUTOV. ΘΕΑΙ. Τὸ ποῖον δή : EE. Τόδε. καί 3 προσέχων τὸν νοῦν εὖ SH. Lode. καὶ μοι πειρῶ προσέχων τον νοὺν εὖ μάλα ἀποκρίνασθαι. ΘΕΑΙ. Τὸ ποῖον ; BE. Εἴ τις φαίη μὴ λέγειν μηδ᾽ ἀντιλέγειν, ἀλλὰ 6. Δοξαστικήν)] “A know- ledge which is in appearance only.” δόξα is here opposed to ἀλήθεια, as appearance to reality. Cf. infr. 268 ο: τὸ τῆς δοξαστικῆς μιμητικόν. There is, however, an allusion to the other (subjec- tive) meaning of δόξα ( = opin- ion) as opposed to ἐπιστήμη (cf. Thet. 207 c, 208 e), just as the word ἀλήθεια is probably used with reference to the ἀλή- θεια (or certainty) of Protago- ras. Compare the confusion of the two meanings of ἀνόητος, noticed by Mr. Grote in Parm. 132 ὁ, Phed. 80b. Grote’s Plato &c., ii. 272, note P. τὸ νῦν --- εἰρῆσθαι] Cf. Theet. 186 6: καὶ μάλιστά ye νῦν καταφανέστατον γέγονεν ἄλλο ὃν αἰσθήσεως ἐπιστήμη. 14. προσέχων τὸν νοῦν εὖ μάλα] “Giving me your very closest attention.” For the position of εὖ μάλα, cf, Phed. 116 e: δειπνή- σαντάς τε καὶ πιόντας εὖ μάλα. For καί introducing an impera- tive, cf. Theet. 145 d, καί μοι λέγε alib.; and compare the use of καί μοι λέγε (or ἀναγνῶθι) τὸ ψήφισμα &c. by the orators. 17. λέγειν] Subaudi ἐπίστα- σθαι. The same illustration which is used here to depre- ciate the Sophist is applied to the poets in Rep. 10, 596c¢: Ἀλλ᾽ ὅρα δὴ καὶ τόνδε τίνα καλεῖς τὸν δημιοῦργον. Τὸν ποῖον ; Ὃς πάντα ποιεῖ, ὅσαπερ εἷς ἕκαστος τῶν χειροτεχνῶν κιτιλ. Πάνυ θαυμαστὸν ---- λέγεις σοφιστήν. This unreal appearance ofuniversal wisdom is the phe- nomenon which we have to 10 consider. Imagine a parallel case. Sup- pose one to profess, not that he knows, but that he can create all things : men, ani- mals, the sea, the heaven, the Gods. 10 15 70 ΄“΄ ΄ ra / > / ποιεῖν καὶ δρᾷν μιᾷ τέχνη ξυνάπαντα ἐπίστασθαι p. 233} πράγματα. ΠΛΑΤΩΝΟΣ ΘΕΑΙ. Πῶς πάντα εἶπες ; EE. Τὴν ἀρχὴν τοῦ ῥηθέντος σύ γ᾽ ἡμῖν εὐθὺς » a \ \ / « 57 > 4 5 ἀγνοεῖς" τὰ yap ξύμπαντα, ὡς ἔοικας, ov pavOavels. ΘΕΑΙ. Οὐ γὰρ οὖν. = 7 , \ CIs a , \ SE. Λέγω τοινυν σε και ἐμὲ τῶν πάντων, Και πρὸς ἡμῖν τάλλα ζῶα καὶ δένδρα. ΘΕΑΙ. Πώς λέγεις ; / [? ποιήσειν φαίη. ᾽ Ν \ 5 \ 7 mE. Ei τις ἐμὲ καὶ σὲ καὶ τάλλα φυτὰ πάντα ΘΕΑΙ. Τίνα δὴ λέγων τὴν ποίησιν ; οὐ γὰρ δὴ γεωργόν γε ἐρεῖς τινά; καὶ γὰρ ζώων αὐτὸν εἶπες Ῥ- 234 f ποιητήν. EE. Φημί, καὶ πρός γε θαλάττης | καὶ γῆς ] καὶ 39 r XQ rn ἈΝ a 2) ’, Ἀ οὐρανοῦ καὶ θεῶν καὶ τῶν ἄλλων ξυμπάντων. και 7 XN i? 5 ΄σ “ i? a τοινυν καὶ TAXU TOLYOAS αὐτῶν EKACTA πανυ σμικρου , 3 / νομίσματος ἀποδίδοται. Compare Emped. ΕὟ.154--τ4τ: ὡς δ᾽ ὁπόταν ypapées —xkai τε θε- ovs δολιχαίωνας τιμῇσι φερίστους. I. ξυνάπαντα --- ξύμπαντα] Note the variety. 4. Τὴν ἀρχήν] “The very key to my meaning is unknown to you. You do not understand what I mean by All.” 7. Λέγω --- τῶν πάντων] CF. Rep. 5, 398 ¢: ἐγὼ---κινδυνεύω ἐκτὸς τῶν πάντων εἶναι. 10. καὶ τἄλλα φυτὰ] The no- tion οἵ φυτὰ need not include ἐμὲ καὶ σέ, according to a well- known Platonic use of ἄλλος, e.g. Ale. 112 b: τοῖς τε Ἀχαίοις καὶ τοῖς ἄλλοις Τρωσίν : with which compare Hom. Od. 2, 43. But the word is probably used here in the widest sense (= creatures) ; cf. Tim. 90 a: ὡς ὄντας ἡμᾶς φυτὸν οὐκ ἔγγειον Rep. 6, 491 d: παντὸς σπέρματος περὶ ἢ φυτοῦ εἴτε τῶν ἐγγείων εἴτε τῶν ζώων. Theag. 121 b. 12. λέγων] Se. φαίη ἄν. 15. Φημί] “ Yes.” Cf. Pheedr. 270 ¢. καὶ γῆ] These words oc- cur only in two MSS., Ven. 3. and Flor. i, which however belong to different families. They are not absolutely re- quired, for the earth as well as the sun may be included in the expression καὶ θεῶν. But οἵ Rep. 10, 596 d: καὶ πρὸς , a ‘ > X Ἂν i“ TOUTOLS γὴν Kat ουρανον Kal θεούς. ἀλλ᾽ οὐράνιον. Θ "». 234. b ΣΟΦΙΣΤΗΣ. 11 ΘΙΕΑΙ. Παιδιὰν λέγεις τινά. l 7 / Ν lal / od 7 3 Ν ΞΕ. Τί δέ; τὴν τοῦ λέγοντος ore πάντα οἶδε καὶ a oS x , > / we) > / , TQAUTQ ETEPOY ἂν διδάξειεν ὀλίγου καὶ ἐν ολίγῳ χρόνῳ, “-“ » \ / μῶν οὐ παιδιὰν νομιστέον ; ΘΕΑΙ. Πάντως που. ΄-“ \ 3, 3, " BE. Παιδιᾶς δὲ ἔχεις ἢ τι τεχνικώτερον ἢ καὶ as 5; Ἂ Ν ͵ χαριέστερον εἰδος ἢ τὸ μιμητικὸν ; ΘΕΑΙ. Οὐδαμῶς: πάμπολυ γὰρ εἴρηκας εἶδος εἰς A , \ KS ΄ ἕν πάντα ξυλλαβὼν καὶ σχεδὸν ποικιλώτατον. 5 — » a , ΓΤ , \ 3 ΜΞ Εἰ, Οὐκοῦν τὸν γ᾽ ὑπισχνούμενον δυνατὸν εἶναι το We should lal , , “ / / “ σ μιᾷ ΤΕΧΡΉ TQAVTQ ποίειν γιγνώσκομεν ποὺ TOUTOY, OTL Ἃ « ,ὔ a + , r μιμήματα καὶ ὁμώνυμα τῶν ὄντων ἀπεργαζόμενος TH 2. τὴν τοῦ λέγοντος] Sc. τέχνην. Compare Coleridge, Friend, vol. iii. p. 145: “For the ancients, as well as the mod- erns, had their machinery for the extemporaneous mintage of intellects, by means of which, off-hand, as it were, the scholar was enabled to make a figure on any and all subjects, on any and all occasions.” 4. μῶν ov παιδιὰν νομιστέον] Cf. Euthyd. 278 ὁ : παιδιὰν δὲ λέγω διὰ ταῦτα, ὅτι, εἰ καὶ πολλά τις ἢ καὶ πάντα τὰ τοιαῦτα μάθοι, τὰ μὲν πράγματα οὐδὲν ἂν μᾶλλον εἰδείη πῇ ἔχει, προσπαίζειν δὲ οἷός T ἂν εἴη τοῖς ἀνθρώπως. Legg. 2, 667 6: καὶ παιδιάν γε τὴν αὐτὴν ταύτην λέγω τότε ὅταν μήτε τι βλάπτῃ μήτε ὠφελῇ σπουδῆς ἢ λόγου ἄξιον. The contempt for the art of painting which is here expressed reappears in Legg. 6, 769 Ὁ : ἐντριβὴς----οὐ- δαμῶς γέγονα τῇ τοιαύτῃ τέχνῃ. — Καὶ οὐδέν γε ἐβλάβης. See also Polit. 277 ὁ: γραφῆς δὲ καὶ συμπάσης χειρουργίας λέξει καὶ λόγῳ δηλοῦν πᾶν ζῶον μᾶλλον πρέπει τοῖς δυναμένοις ἕπεσθαι. 6. τεχνικώτερον --- χαριέστε- ρον] ‘ More artful,” and there- fore more worthy of the So- phist ; “more amusing,” and therefore more deserving of the name παιδιά. Cf. Polit. 288 6, where μιμητική is in- cluded under παίγνιον. 8. παμπολὺ] “ Most exten- sive.” Lit. “abundant.” Cf. infr. 236 b. 9. ποικιλώτατον [7 “ Most various.” Cf. Thext. 146 ἃ : ποικίλα ἀνθ᾽ ἁπλοῦ. Il. γιγνώσκομέν που τοῦτον] τοῦτον, although the reading of only two MSS. (Par. H. Flor. b), is certainly preferable to τοῦτο, because adding point to the parallel: and has been introduced into the text by Stallbaum. The same reading had previously been conjec- tured by Van Heusde. 12. ὁμώνυμα] Cf. Parm. 133 d: ra—rap ἡμῖν ταῦτα, ὁμώνυμα ὄντα ἐκείνοις. understand at once that he is a painter, and that his are only mimic ““ crea- tions ;’ by which, however, he can im- pose from a distance 5 on the less intelligent amongst young children. There is also a mimic art of reason- ing, by Io 72 IMAATQNOZ γραφικῇ τέχνῃ δυνατὸς ἔσται τοὺς ἀνοήτους τῶν νέων Ῥ. 234. ' παίδων, πόρρωθεν τὰ γεγραμμένα ἐπιδεικνύς, λανθά- ε “ / δ Ἃ θη ὃ cad ΄σ « ΄ νειν, ὡς, Ὁ τί περ ἂν βουληθῃ Pav, TOVTO ἱκανώτατος ἃ > “- yy ὧν ἀποτελεῖν ἐργῳ. ΘΕΑΙ. Πῶς γὰρ οὔ: EE. Τί δὲ δή ; περὶ τοὺς λόγους ap’ οὐ προσδο- a 5 , yy U x > 3 κῶμεν eval τινα ἄλλην τέχνην ; Τὴ ovt δυνατὸν av / Χ ͵ 7] , 5 τυγχάνειν TOUS νέους καὶ ETL πόρρω τῶν πραγμάτων τῆς ἀληθείας ἀφεστῶτας διὰ τῶν ὦτων τοῖς λόγοις / / 5) , Ν 4 γοητεύειν, δεικνύντας εἴδωλα λεγόμενα περὶ πάντων, 2. πορρωθεν --- ἀφεστῶτας] Cf. Legg. 1, 663 Ὁ : σκοτοδινιᾷν δὲ τὸ πόρρωθεν ὁρώμενον πᾶσί τε ὡς ἔπος εἰπεῖν καὶ δὴ καὶ τοῖς παισὶ παρέχει. The spirit οἵ Prot.314b is the same: ἡμεῖς yap ἔτι νέοι, ὥστε τοσοῦτο πρᾶγμα διελέσθαι. Cf. also Rep. 1, 331 6: ὥσπερ ἤδη ἐγγύτερω ὧν τῶν ἐκεῖ μᾶλλόν τι καθορᾷ αὐτά. ἡ. τινα ἄλλην τέχνην] τοιαύτην, which Heindorf proposed to insert before τέχνην, is found in ὁ, ἘΠ Ὁ, and 85 been added by a recent hand in two other MSS. But with τοιαύτη following (infr. 4), the common reading is more pro- bable. + ovt] The reading of most MSS., ἢ ov δυνατὸν αὖ τυγχάνειν, is awkward unless τοιαύτην is added above. οὐ may possibly have arisen from αὖ following. The translation of Ficinus (qua seductores— adolescentulos decipere vale- ant) points to Schleiermacher’s conjecture, ἢ δυνατὸν αὖ τυγχά- νειν, which is also supported by a correction of the Coisli- nian MS. (ἢ δυνατόν.) (ῆ οὐ Π.) For τυγχάνειν with the ad- jective, cf. Tim. 61 d, τυγχάνει ---ταῦτα---- δυνατὰ λεχθῆναι, and seven other passages quoted by Ast, Lex. 5. v. τυγχάνω. And for the infinitive after the relative ἡ (subaud. προσδοκῶμεν), cf. Parm. 130 6: εἶναι εἴδη ἄττα, ὧν τάδε---τὰς ἐπωνυμίας ἴσχειν. 8. τοὺς νεοὺς καὶ ἔτι πόρρω] A similar parallel is drawn between rhetoric and tragic poetry in Gorgias 502 d: Nov ἄρα ἡμεῖς εὑρήκαμεν ῥητορικήν τινα πρὸς δῆμον τοιοῦτον οἷον παί- δων τε ὁμοῦ καὶ γυναικῶν καὶ ἀνδρῶν, καὶ δούλων καὶ ἐλευθέρων, ἣν οὐ πάνυ ἀγάμεθα, κολακικὴν γὰρ αὐτήν (τὴν τῆς τραγῳδίας ποίησιν) φαμεν εἶναι. See also ib. 458 e, where the “ omniscience” of the rhetor is noticed : περὶ πάντων (ῥητορικὸν) ὥστ᾽ ἐν ὄχλῳ πιθανὸν εἶναι. Ib. 459 Ὁ : ὁ οὐκ εἰδὼς τοῦ εἰδότος ἐν οὐκ εἰδόσι πιθανώτερος. Compare Legg. 2,658 ¢: εἰ μὲν τοίνυν τὰ σμικρὰ κρίνοι παιδία, κρινοῦσι τὸν τὰ θαύ- ματα ἐπιδεικνύντα. 10. εἴδωλα λεγόμενα] = τὰ ἐν ΣΟΦΙΣΤῊΣ. Ϊ ἣν ω “ vad / Ν Ν / p- 234. ὥστε ποιεῖν aAnOn δοκεῖν λέγεσθαι Kai τὸν λέγοντα \ / 7 (oA > 53 δὴ σοφώτατον πάντων ἅπαντ᾽ εἶναι ; ΘΕΑΙ. Τί γὰρ οὐκ ἂν εἴη ἄλλη τις τοιαύτη τέχνη 3 ΞΕ). Τοὺς πολλοὺς οὖν, [ὦ] Θεαίτητε, τῶν τότε » / B's > ’ /, / > / ἀκουόντων ἀρ οὐκ ἀνάγκη, χρόνου τε ἐπελθόντος » - an a - / « / an 5 αὑτοῖς ἱκανοῦ καὶ προϊούσης λικίας, τοῖς τε οὖσι / > / Ν \ / > προσπίπτοντας ἐγγύθεν καὶ διὰ παθημάτων avayKa- / 3 a 3 / lal 7 7 ζομένους ἐναργῶς ἐφάπτεσθαι τῶν ὄντων, μεταβάλ- ‘ / / / [γέ \ \ dew τὰς τότε γενομένας δόξας, ὥστε σμικρὰ μὲν φαίνεσθαι τὰ μεγάλα, χαλεπὰ δὲ τὰ padi, καὶ πάντα VL 9 ’΄ \ 5 a 7 / παντῃ ἀνατετραῴθαι τὰ ἐν τοῖς λόγοις φαντάσματα e Χ a ΄- 7 5) / ὑπὸ τῶν ἐν Τῶις πράξεσιν εργῶν TAPAVEVOLEVOYV 5 τοῖς λόγοις φαντάσματα, infr. 6. “ Exhibiting fictitious argu- ments, as the painter exhi- bited fictitious shapes.” There is a stress on λεγόμενα as op- posed to γεγραμμένα ἐπιδεικνὺς above. Compare Theet. r50e: ψευδῆ καὶ εἴδωλα περὶ πλείονος ποιησάμενοι τοῦ ἀληθοῦς. For the plural δεικνύντας, to which objection has been made, οἵ. Theet. 172 Ὁ: ἐθέλουσιν ἰσχυ- ρίζεσθαι. Ib. 167 Ὁ : δοξάζοντας συγγενῆ ἑαυτῆς, and notes. I. ποιεῖν---δοκεῖν] “To make them think.” 5. Τοὺς πολλοὺς ---- παραγενο- μένων] “Is it not then, Thez- tetus, inevitable, that most of the auditors of such lectures in process of time, as they get older, coming into close con- tact with realities, and being compelled by sad experience to see and feel things as they are, will change the opinions which were then created, so L that what seemed great will appear small, and what seemed easy, difficult; and the ima- ginations, awakened by dis- course, will be completely overturned by the facts which encounter them in action.” [ὦ] Θεαίτητε] The Bodl. omits ὦ with AT. 8. διὰ παθημάτων] According to the ““τριγέρων μῦθος," παθή- ματα μαθήματα. g. ἐναργῶς} “ΤῸ come into unmistakeable contact with re- ality.” 10. σμικρὰ---τὰ peyara] Ee. wealth, distinction, &c. II. χαλεπὰ---τὰ ῥᾷάδια] E. the government of men. 13. ὑπὸ τῶν ἐν ταῖς πράξεσιν ἔργων παραγενομένων] “The reali- ties which have encountered them in action.” Compare the complaint of Adimantus in Rep. 6, 487 b,c. And cf. Lege. 6, 769d: προϊόντος τοῦ χρόνου, καὶ τῶν δοξάντων ἔργῳ πειρώμενον. oO, 5 σι which youth and inexperi- ence may be de- ceived, though not for long. Thesetetus assents, though he feels that he is still one of those ‘at a dis- tance”’ from the truth of things. Sar. “It is our endea- vour to anticipate experience and to draw you nearer.” 74 ΘΕΑΙ. ‘Os γοῦν ἐμοὶ τηλικῷδε ὄντι κρῖναι. οἶμαι p. 234. ITAATQNOZ δὲ Oe De a "7 , » / 5 ε καὶ Ee τῶν ETL πόρρωθεν ἀφεστηκοτων εἰναι. EE. Τοιγαροῦν ἡμεῖς σε οἵδε πάντες πειρασόμεθα γὰρ 7} ρ μ \ fa) / e > / yA lal / καὶ vuv πειρώμεθα ὡς ἐγγύτατα ἄνευ TOY παθημάτων Ἢ ΄ Ν 3 3 a a / P< © ἐς STpooayev. περὶ δ᾽ οὖν τοῦ σοφιστοῦ τοδε μοι λέγε / yf la \ a ΄σ ’, yy πότερον ἤδη τοῦτο σαφὲς OTL τῶν γοήτων ἐστι TIS, \ a lol 32) Ὁ 7 7) Ν Ν μιμητὴς ὧν τῶν ὄντων, ἢ διστάζομεν ἐτι μὴ περὶ σ 5 / lat Ἂ 3 Ν / ὅσωνπερ ἀντιλέγειν δοκεῖ δυνατὸς εἶναι, περὶ τοσού- των καὶ τὰς ἐπιστήμας ἀληθῶς ἔχων τυγχάνει ; OEAI. Καὶ πῶς av, ὦ ξένε; ἀλλὰ σχεδὸν ἤδη \ lal 72 vA qn rn an A σαφες ἐκ τῶν εἰρημένων ὅτι τῶν τῆς παιδιᾶς μέτε- ’ὔ , ἴω χόντων ἐστί τις μερῶν. Ios τὸ 989 lye ὦ εἶ, προιὼν δέ σε 6 χρόνος ποιήσει πολλὰ ὧν νῦν δοξάζεις μεταβα- λόντα ἐπὶ τἀναντία τίθεσθαι. T. ‘Os ἐμοὶ ----κρῖναι = ὡς ἐμοὶ κριτῇ. The infinitive is epexe- getic. 3. Τοιγαροῦν ἡμεῖς σε οἵδε] Cf. Legg. το, go5¢: ταῦτα εἰ μέν σε πείθει Κλεινίας ὅδε καὶ ξύμπασα ἡμῶν ἥδε ἡ γερουσία, καλῶς ἄν σοι καὶ ὁ θεὸς αὐτὸς ξυλλαμβάνοι. ἡμεῖς οἵδε] -- ξενός, Θεόδωρος, Σωκράτης. 4. τῶν παθημάτων] The article refers to διὰ παθημάτων above. 5. δ᾽ οὖν] “ But, to return.” 7. μὴ expresses that an af- firmative answer to the question which it introduces is regarded as possible. 12. ἐστί τις μερῶν] Heindorf objects to μερῶν on the ground that the only way of constru- ing the words as they stand is to suppose μερῶν tobe go- verned by μετεχόντων. “That he is one of those who par- take of the divisions of child’s- παῖ, νέος play.” But why may not the words be taken more simply !— “That he occupies (76. is) one of the departments which partake of the nature of child’s-play.” The confusion of the man and his function, the juxtaposition of the masculine with the femi- nine and neuter, has already occurred several times in this dialogue, 6. g. 225 a: τὸ χρη- ματιστικὸν γένος, ἐριστικῆς ὃν σοφιστής. The article in τῆς παιδιᾶς re- fers to p. 234 a: παιδιὰν --- παιδιᾶς. Accordingly, τῶν τῆς παιδιᾶς μετεχόντων μερῶν 18 equivalent to τῶν τῆς μιμητικῆς μερῶν. That μιμητικὴ is divided into many parts is implied supr. 234 b, eis ev πάντα ξυλλα- βών, and in the epithet ποικι- λώτατον. Cf. also infr. 6: κατὰ μέρη τῆς μιμητικῆς. 235 a: τῆς μιμητικῆς τὸ ἐπὶ τούτῳ μέρος. ib. Ὁ : πολὺ τοῦτο τὸ μέρος κατὰ -- μιμητικῆην. The conjecture εἷς, adopted by the Zurich edi- tors (ἐστί τις μερῶν εἷς. Ténra), ͵ 5 A e TEXYNS, — ΕΟ πο 9, Ρ. 235. ἢ p. 235. ΣΟΦΙΣΤΗΣ. 75 RE. Eis γόητα μὲν δὴ καὶ μιμητὴν apa θετέον γ TUWQ, OEAI. [lds yap ov θετέον ; mE. “Aye δή, viv ἡμέτερον ἔργον ἤδη Tov θῆρα But what ΣΟΙ ΕῚ a 4 \ ‘ ἀν, τῆς ͵ > μηκέτ᾽ ἀνεῖναι: σχεδὸν yap αὐτὸν mepleAnpapev ἐν 5 5 κ᾿ Q al ’ ΄σ / \ \ ἀμφιβληστρικῷ τινὶ τῶν ἐν τοῖς λόγοις περὶ τὰ a > ΄ “ >’ ΟΝ Ὁ / ΓΟ / TOLAVTA OPYAVWY, WATE OUKET ἐκφεύξεται TOOE γε. CEAI. To ποῖον ; aD Teo \ » a / 5 A na 6 μη ed O μὴ OU TOU γένους ELVaL Τοῦ τῶν σαυματο- ποιῶν τις εἷς. ΘΕΑΙ. Kapol τοῦτό γε οὕτω περὶ αὐτοῦ ξυνδοκεῖ, / 14 a mE. Δέδεικται τοίνυν 6 τι τάχιστα διαιρεῖν τὴν though involving only a slight change, is unmeaning and gives a wrong emphasis. The case is different below (235 b: τις εἷς), where the point is that he cannot escape being some one amongst the varieties of the genus jug- gler. Here παιδιᾶς is the em- phatic word. The next words, εἰς γόητα, admit of a similar explanation. The masculine noun is substi- tuted for the neuter of the kind or genus. He must be referred to the genus sorcerer, and to a species of mimic. Cf. Polit. 281 ©: πότερον οὖν 6 περὶ τῆς ὑφαντικῆς λόγος --- ἱκανῶς ἔσται διωρισμένος, ἐὰν ἄρ᾽ αὐτὴν τῶν ἐπιμελειῶν, ὁπόσαι περὶ τὴν ἐρεᾶν ἐσθῆτα, εἰς τὴν καλλίστην καὶ μεγίστην πασῶν τιθῶμεν ; where, however, the Zurich editors have εἰσί, but see note. Lege. 9, 867 b: εἰς εἰκόνα μὲν ἄμφω θεῖναι. Tim. 57 6 : εἰς ἀνωμαλό- τητὰα τιθῶμεν. Kor a similar use of the concrete for the ab- L stract, cf. Rep. 382d: Ποιητὴς ἄρα ψευδὴς ἐν θεῷ οὐκ ἔνι. 1. γόητα! So the art of the λογοποιοί is described in Euthyd. 289 e: ἔστι---τῆς τῶν ἐπῳδῶν τέχνης μόριον σμικρῷ τι ἐκείνης ὑποδεεστέρα. 4. νῦν ἡμέτερον---ἀνεῖναι] The near approach made in these words to an anapzstic tetra- meter can hardly be accidental. And there is a tone of bur- lesque tragedy in the order of the words. 6. ἀμφιβληστρικῷ τινι] Se. ὀργάνῳ, viz. the εἶδος of μιμη- τική 1n which we have confined him. Cf. Euthyd. 302 b: ἄπο- pov twa στροφὴν ἔφευγόν τε καὶ ἐστρεφόμην ἤδη, ὥσπερ ἐν δικτύῳ εἰλημμένος. ΤΟ. τις εἷς] Some one or other of those included in the race of jugglers. Cf. Soph. Antig. 262: εἷς γάρ τις ἢν ἕκαστος οὐξειργασμένος. 12. Δέδεικται τοίνυν] Se. δεῖν. Cf. Theet. 197 a: > - τούτων τ᾽ now of the Sophist { Is he or is he nota mimic and amagician a maker of false images of reality 1 If so, we must take the art of image- making and pro- ceed with our method of divi- sions. 76 > ww \ , x jd ’ > / >\ εἰδωλοποιϊκην τέχνην, καὶ καταβάντας εἰς αὐτὴν, EaY Pp. 235.}} ΠΛΑΤΩΝΟΣ \ c σ΄ 5» \ c Ἀ [ἐ ~ μὲν ἡμᾶς εὐθὺς ὁ σοφιστὴς ὑπομείνῃ, συλλαβεῖν DLN \ \ , / c XN a cal αὑτὸν κατὰ τὰ ἐπεσταλμένα ὕπο τοῦ βασιλικοῦ / > / / 3 to Ν a Ξ λόγου, κἀκείνῳ παραδόντας ἀποφῆναι τὴν ἄγραν 5Ν 3. \ / ω al 7 7 5 ἐὰν δ᾽ ἄρα κατὰ μέρη τῆς μιμητικῆς δύηταί πῃ, Evva- λουθεῖν αὐτῷ, ὃ υ ἰεὶ τὴν ὑπο κολουθειν αὐτῷ, Θιαιρουντας GEL τὴν υὑποθεχομενὴν Sines a “ Ων “-“ / yf © αὐτὸν μοῖραν, ἕωσπερ av ληφθῇ. πάντως οὗτε οὗτος δ A / Ia\ / 5 XN > / οὔτε ἄλλο γένος οὐδὲν μὴ ποτε ἐκῴφυγον ἐπεύξηται \ ΄- “ / / 4 oS / Ν τὴν τῶν οὕτω δυναμένων μετιέναι καθ᾽ ἕκαστα τε καὶ SEAN iy 10 ἐπὶ παντα μέθοδον. ἂν ἔφη ἀπέχεσθαι, and note. Tsoer. Nicocl. 36: φημὶ δὴ πράττειν ἕκαστον ἡμῶν ἐπιμελῶς. Δέδοκται, the reading of some MSS. and of the old editions, agrees well with the preced- ing context, but not so well with the new matter in what follows. Compare Rep. 4,432 b: νῦν δὴ ἡμᾶς δεῖ ὥσπερ κυνηγέτας τινὰς θάμνον περιΐστασθαι, προ- σέχοντας τὸν νοῦν μή πῃ διαφύγῃ ἡ δικαιοσύνη καὶ ἀφανισθεῖσα ἄδη- Ros γένηται. (12.)Δέδεικται----μεθόδον] “Then the duty is proved of opening with all speed the art of image- making, and descending into it; where, if we find the So- phist immediately awaiting us, we must apprehend him in the name of Reason, who is our royal master, and render and declare our capture ; but if he lurk in one of the many compartments of imitative art, we must follow him closely, always opening the cell which contains him, until he be caught. Surely neither he nor any other kind shall boast of haying eluded the pursuit of those who are able thus to follow the most minute and also the most comprehensive inquiry.” I. εἰδωλοποιϊκή 15 mous with μιμητική. 2. ὑπομείνῃ---δύητα]͵ He is imagined as a flying enemy who may either turn to bay or hide himself in the bush. 3. ὑπὸ τοῦ βασιλικοῦ λόγου] Compare Pindar’s νόμος πάντων βασιλεύς. For Custom, as the king of men, Plato would sub- stitute Reason ; νοῦς for νόμος. 4. ἀποφῆναι τὴν ἄγραν] See the story οἵ Polycrates and the fisherman in Herod. III. 42. 7. πάντως οὐ] Polit. 269: mav- τως ov πολλὰ ἐκφεύγεις παιδιὰς ἔτη. 8. οὐ---μή ποτε ἐκφυγὸν ἐπεύ- ξηται] This sounds like an echo of Soph. Cid. Col. 1024: ods οὐ μή ποτε χώρας φυγόντες τῆσδ᾽ ἐπεύξωνται θεοῖς. See οὐκέτ᾽ ἐκ- φεύξεται supr., and ef. Legg. 10, QOO a: οὐ μή ποτε emevénrat περιγενέσθαι θεῶν. Ib. 12, 969 Ὁ: τό ye ἀνδρειότατος εἶναι δο- κεῖν---οὐκ ἐκφεύξει ποτέ. 9. καθ᾽ ἕκαστα---πάντα] Pass- ing over no kind and extend- synony- Ρ. 235- ΣΟΦΙΣΤΗΣ. ras OEAI. Λέγεις εὖ, καὶ ταῦτα ταύτῃ ποιητέον. RE. Κατὰ δὴ τὸν παρεληλυθότα τρόπον τῆς διαι- / “ lal / a By ἃ ρέσεως ἐγωγέ μοι καὶ viv φαίνομαι δύο καθορᾷν εἰδὴ a oe \\ δὲ / ἰδέ ᾽ .« / THS μιμητικῆς τὴν OE ζητουμένην LOEAV, εν OTTOTEP@ There is a real and an apparent image. > ἘΠ σὲ 5 / Co > / ποθ μιν ουσὰα τυγχάνει, καταμαθεῖν οὐδέπω μοι5 an an SN S δοκῶ νῦν δυνατὸς εἶται. ΘΕΑΙ. Σὺ δ᾽ ἀλλ᾽ εἰπὲ πρῶτον καὶ δίελε ἡμῖν / Χ / / τίνε τῶ Ovo λέγεις. =a Mi \ A ᾽ \ « lad > x, A wey I. lav μὲν Τὴν ELKAOTLKNV Op@v εν QUT?) / yy 1] “ / c / \ \ τέχνην. ἐστι O αὕτη μάλιστα, ὁπόταν κατὰ τὰς TOU a παραδείγματος συμμετρίας τις ἐν μήκει καὶ πλάτει Ν ΄ Ν Χ ΄ a ΄ > \ καὶ βάθει, καὶ πρὸς τούτοις ETL χρώματα ἀποδιδοὺς Χ / « / \ a / / τὰ TPOONKOVTA EKAGTOLS, Τὴν TOV μιμηματος γένεσιν ἀπεργαζηται. ΘΕΑΙ. Τί δ᾽; οὐ πάντες οἱ μιμούμενοί τι τοῦτ᾽ ἐπιχειροῦσι δρᾷν : 3, “ “ 7 4 ’ BE. Οὔκουν ὅσοι γε τῶν μεγάλων ποὺ τι πλάτ- 2, Xx 7 » ἊΝ 3 - \ τουσιν ἔργων ἢ γράφουσιν. εἰ yap ἀποδιδοῖεν τὴν ing to all : at once special and general, individual and univer- sal. Compare Pheedr. 265-273. 7. Σὺ δ᾽ ἀλλ᾽ εἰπὲ] Cf. Xen. Hell. III. 4, 26: Ἀποκρινομένου δὲ τοῦ Ἀγησιλάου, ὅτι οὐκ ἂν ποιήσειε ταῦτα ἄνευ τῶν οἴκοι τελῶν, Σὺ δ᾽ ἀλλὰ, ἕως ἂν πύθῃ τὰ παρὰ τῆς πόλεως, μεταχώρησον ἔφη, ἐς τὴν Φαρναβάζου. 9. τὴν εἰκαστικὴν] The word is used again in Legg. 2, 667 Ὁ: ὅσαι τέχναι εἰκαστικαί. Lb. 668 d: μουσικὴν---πᾶσάν φαμεν εἰκα- στικήν τε εἶναι καὶ μιμητικήν. 9. ὁρῶν] τὼ δύο λέγω is understood from the preceding sentence. The ace. is governed partly by λέγω, partly by ὁρῶν. 13. THY TOU μιμήματος γένεσιν The word γένεσις frequently occurs in these dialogues with something of a technical mean- ing. Here it seems almost pleonastic. Cf Legg. 4, 712 a: τότε πολιτείας τῆς ἀρίστης φύεται γένεσις. Rep. 2,371 d: καπήλων — γένεσιν. Compare Cratyl. 432 6, where the fur- ther distinction is drawn be- tween Κρατύλου εἰκὼν and δύο Κρατύλοι. 15. πάντες οἱ μιμούμενοί τι “ All who try to imitate any- thing.” 16. ἐπιχειροῦσι δρᾶν almost = δρῶσι. Cf. Thezet.196 d, Pheedr, 265 e, et passim. 17. mov] “ Anywhere, any occasion.” » ¢¢ on The for- mer, which IO we may call a like- ness, 15 that in which the propor- tions and colours of the original are really 15 preserved. The false image is that, in whichthese only seem to be pre- served, be- cause of the posi- tion of the spectator, 78 τῶν καλῶν ἀληθινὴν συμμετρίαν, οἶσθ᾽ ὅτι σμικρό- p. 235. \ a / \ A / \ \ ΄ τερα μὲν τοῦ δέοντος τὰ ἄνω, μείζω δὲ τὰ κάτω p. 236. ΠΛΑΤΩΝΟΣ / 353. ἃ \ Ν \ \ U \ “hase 7, φαίνοιτ᾽ av διὰ τὸ τὰ μὲν πόρρωθεν, τὰ δ᾽ ἐγγύθεν « > ε n c ΄- 3 97 5 > / ‘\ > \ vp ἡμῶν ὁρᾶσθαι. ap οὖν ov χαίρειν τὸ ἀληθὲς 44 . ΄“ \ 327 SEATAVTES οἱ δημιουργοὶ νῦν οὐ τὰς οὔσας συμμε- / ἈΝ 7 5 \ fad Fi Tplas, ἀλλὰ Tas δοξούσας εἶναι καλὰς τοῖς εἰδώλοις ἐναπεργαζονται ; ΘΕΑΙ. Πάνυ μὲν οὖν. oS 2 / ΕῚ , yy ἕτερον οὐ δίκαιον, εἰκὸς YE OV, HE. Τὸ μὲν ἄρα > / la 10 €LKOVA καλεῖν 5 GEAI. Nai. aE. Kat τῆς ye A X SN , Ζ μιμητικης TO ἐπὶ τουτῷ μέρος λ ip σ“ of » “ 7 ra) > / Ν ΚλῆτΤεον OTTEP εἴπομεν EV Τῷ 7 POOUEV, ELKAOTLKIY 5 OEAI. KAnréov. EE. Τί δέ; τὸ φαινόμενον μὲν διὰ τὴν οὐκ ἐκ I. τῶν καλῶν] Badham conj. κώλων, but cf. καλὰς infra, 1. 6. 5. νῦν] “In point of fact.” The position of the word is curious. Cf. supr., 218 b: ἀρχομένῳ πρῶτον, ὡς ἐμοὶ daive- ται, νῦν ἀπὸ τοῦ σοφιστοῦ. τὰς οὔσας] τῶν καλῶν is pro- bably to be supplied in thought. 8. Πάνυ μὲν οὖν] These words are not omitted in the Bod- leian MS., as Gaisford asserts. 9. εἰκός ye ὄν] γε -- ἅτε, as above, 221 ¢: τό γε ὄνομα τοῦτο ἔχων. 12.70 ἐπὶ τούτῳ] “Whose work this is.” Cf. Rep.5,477 d: duvd- pews δ᾽ εἰς ἐκεῖνο μόνον βλέπω, ἐφ᾽ ᾧ τέ ἐστι καὶ ὃ ἀπεργάζεται. 13. ἐν τῷ πρόσθεν]Ἡ 235 d. 15. διὰ τὴν οὐκ ἐκ καλοῦ θέαν] Heindorf, following Schleier- macher, called this reading senseless, and thought that οὐκ had arisen out of ἐκ. And οὐκ is certainly omitted in Coisl. Ss. ¥., but Coisl. has ἐκ καλοῦ μηδαμῶς. Stallbaum agrees with Heindorf, who renders ἐκ κα- hov, ex loco opportuno, and quotes Aristoph. Thesm. 293 : ποῦ, ποῦ καθίζωμ᾽ ἐν καλῷ τῶν ῥητόρων wv ἐξακούω. C. F. Her- mann conjectures διὰ τὴν dKo- λουθίαν, “ because of the con- eruity” (it is rather the ap- parent congruity) “of the proportions.” The difficulty arises simply from misappre- hension. The point is that in addressing persons who are at a distance from the truth of things (πόρρω τῆς ἀληθείας ἀφεστῶτας, supr. 234 6) the Sophist is able to give his arguments the appearance of wisdom. The wnfavowrable position in which his hearers stand is the cause of their delusion, as in the case of the ΣΟΦΙΣΤΗΣ. 19 cal / ᾽ VA a ΄σ / \ v7 ’ p: 236. καλοῦ θέαν ἐοικέναι τῷ καλῷ, δύναμιν δὲ εἴ τις λάβοι ‘ a ε a Ἐπ δὲ \ go oN δι Ν > τὰ τηλικαῦτα ἱκανῶς ὁρᾷν, μηδὲ εἰκὸς ᾧ φησὶν ἐοι- / / “ Bu > 5» 3 / / / κέναι, TL καλοῦμεν ; ἀρ οὐκ, ἐπείπερ φαίνεται μέν, ” \ 37 Δ ἐοικε δὲ οὔ, φάντασμα ; ΘΕΑΙ. Τί μήν ; an , \ \ / EE. Οὐκοῦν πάμπολυ καὶ κατὰ τὴν ζωγραφίαν cal Ν 7 A ’ A τοῦτο TO μέρος ἐστὶ Kal κατὰ ξύμπασαν μιμητικήν ; ΘΕΑΙ. Πώς δ᾽ οὖ: 7 / EE. Τὴν δὴ φαντάσματα ἀλλ᾽ οὐκ εἰκόνα ἀπερ- ,ὔ ld Lot > \ > / > xX γαζομένην τέχνην ap ov φανταστικὴν ὀρθότατ᾽ ἂν ’ὔ προσαγορευοιμεν 5 ΘΕΑΙ. Πολύ γε. BE. Τούτω τοίνυν τὼ δύο ἔλεγον εἴδη τῆς εἰδω- Rates = \ 7, λοποιϊκῆς, εἰκαστικὴν καὶ φανταστικὴν. apparent proportions of a co- lossal statue. The words δύ- ναμιν δ᾽ et τις λάβοι τὰ τηλι- καῦτα ἱκανῶς ὁρᾶν imply this, and require that οὐκ should be retained. “That which appears to resemble what is fair be- cause the spectator is not in a fair position.” Cf. Legg. 2, 663¢: σκοτοδινιᾷν ---- τὸ πόρρω- θεν ὁρώμενον ----παρέχει, νομοθέ- της δὲ -- τὸ σκότος ἀφελὼν --- πείσει --- ὡς ἐσκιαγραφημένα τὰ δίκαιά ἐστι καὶ ἄδικα" τὰ μὲν ἄδικα τῷ τοῦ δικαίου ἐναντίως φαινόμενα, ἐκ μὲν ἀδίκου καὶ κακοῦ ἑαυτοῦ θεωρούμενα ἡδέα, τὰ δὲ δίκαια ἀηδέστερα, ἐκ δὲ δικαίου πάντα τἀναντία πάντῃ πρὸς ἀμφότερα, where it is evident from the context, as here, (especially from the word πόρρωθεν,) that ἐκ expresses position or point of view: and there is perhaps the same allusion as in Ar. Eth. Nic. IX. 7: Ἐπίχαρμος μὲν οὖν τάχ᾽ ἂν φαίη ταῦτα λέγειν αὐτοὺς ἐκ πονηροῦ θεωμένους : unless indeed this is to be in- terpreted from ejusd. Metaph. XII. 9, 17 : χαλεπὸν ἐκ μὴ κα- λῶς ἐχόντων λέγειν καλῶς, κατ᾽ ᾿Ἐπίχαρμον, where ἐκ expresses the material or means, as in ex τῶνδε σκόπει Pheed. 67 6. 2. τὰ τηλικαῦτα] “Things of such colossal size.” ᾧ φησὶν ἐοικέναι] ‘“ Which it professes to resemble.” 3. καλοῦμεν] Future tense. φαίνεται μὲν] ἐοικέναι, which is added in one or two MSS., is easily supplied from ἔοικε 8 ov. Cf. supr. 233 b: μήτε ἐκείνοις ἐφαίνοντο, and note. 4. φαντάσματα] So the Bod- leian and Π.: cett. φάντασμα. The opposition between the one real and the many appa- rent likenesses suits the pas- sage well. Cf. Rep. 7, 516 b. 13. τὼ δύο] Supr. 235 d. 5 Hence, there are two kinds of image- making, Likeness- making and Phan- 10 tastic, of which painting is a conspicu- ous ex- ample. 80 ΠΛΑΤΩΝΟΣ ΘΕΑΙ. ᾿᾽Ορθώς. Now in EE. Ὃ δέ ye καὶ τότ᾽ ἠμφεγνόουν, ἐν ποτέρᾳ seeking to = ᾿ ; ΕΣ ᾿ 2 pee a wey σοφιστὴν θετέον, οὐδὲ viv πω δύναμαι ae Sophist in δ ‘ a one of σθαι σαφῶς, ἀλλ᾽ ὄντως θαυμαστὸς ἁνὴρ Kal κατι- these, we x , oe aN Ne etc ΄ 5 \ a areen- 5 0€lV παγχάλεπος, ἐπεὶ καὶ νῦν pada εὖ καὶ ae countered es 5 η ΄ by the dif εἰς ἄπορον εἶδος διερευνήσασθαι καταπέφευγεν. ficulty 7 which has OEAT. * Eouxev. always "»-- cy > 5 oN / , y beset the HE. °Ap οὖν αὐτὸ γιγνώσκων ξύμφης, ἢ σε subject of appear, ance, seeming, and falsity. 10 GTATATO πρὸς τὸ το - /? « ἂν A 7, / a TOP TG) IS: WED a) λόγου συνειθισμένον, νῦν ἐπε- eee : 7 “ Sy CEAI. Πῶς, καὶ πρὸς 6 τι, τοῦτο εἴρηκας ; bom 37 5 ΄ > A > 7 GE. Ὄντως, ὦ μακάριε, ἐσμὲν ἐν παντάπασι ζω vA ἊΝ Ν / lol Ν χαλεπῇ σκέψει. τὸ γὰρ φαίνεσθαι τοῦτο καὶ τὸ δο- e a) 3 \ , \ Ν , \ 7, » ro κεῖν, εἶναι δὲ μή, καὶ TO λέγειν μὲν ἄττα, ἀληθῆ δὲ {/ 5 15 (47), ἐν τῷ ’ὕ an ’ 3 Ν > / » πανῖα TAVTA ἐστι PEOTA αποριᾶς ἀεὶ 2. καὶ τότ] Supr. 235 d. were now (this time) drawn ποτέρᾳ] Bodl. ποτερα. 6. καταπέφευγεν]ηἠ The same imagery occurs in Phileb. 64 e: νῦν δὴ καταπέφευγεν ἡμῖν τὸ ἀγαθόν εἰς τὴν τοῦ καλοῦ φύσιν. Pheed. 76 6 : εἰς καλὸν καταφεύγει 6 λόγος. The order of the words is noticeable. Διερευνήσασθαι, which is intro- duced by an afterthought, de- pends immediately on ἄπορον. 8. "Ap οὖν αὐτὸ---Ἰ “ Do you give your assent intelligently, or, from the habit of the argu- ment, were you now drawn on, as by a sort of impetus, to assent at once ?”’ 9. νῦν] This, the reading of the Bodleian and ATI., is better than συνεπεσπάσατο, which has arisen out of the preceding verb. “ Being accustomed by the argument to assent, you on to make a hasty admission.” 11. Πῶς] “ With what mean- ing ?” καὶ πρὸς 6 τι] “And with reference to what?” “ What is the special difficulty, which you have in view 2” 6 tt] The indirect form may be accounted for by sup- posing an ellipse of λέγε, and appears more natural if the words καὶ πρὸς ὅτε are viewed as an afterthought. Cf. supr. 233 ἃ : εἶ πάντα --- καθ᾽ ὅντινα καιλ. Cf. also Legg. 12, 960 C: πρὸς ὃ τι δὲ τὸ νῦν ad ῥηθὲν εἴρηται, φρᾶζ᾽ ἔτι σαφέστερον. Euthyd. 287 Ὁ : τὸ yap οὐχ ἔχω ὃ τι χρῶμαι ὃ τι ποτε λέγεις, ὦ Διονυσόδωρε; One MS. (Flor. i) has τί. 15. μεστὰ] Om. Bod. ΔΙ. The v of ἐστιν was p- 236 ΣΟΦΙΣΤΗΣ. p. 236. πρόσθεν χρόνῳ καὶ νῦν. ψευδὴ λέγειν ἢ δοξαζειν φθεγξάμενον ἐναντιολογίᾳ ΕΠ ΑΙ Ti. or; 8] a \ 5 ’ 4 ὅπως γὰρ εἰπόντα χρὴ A 93 a ὄντως εἶναι, καὶ τοῦτο Ἁ / "Z μὴ συνέχεσθαι, παντά- p. 237. πασιν, ὦ Θεαίτητε, χαλεπόν. ΞΕ, Τετόλμηκεν 0 λόγος οὗτος ὑποθέσθαι τὸ μὴ Ἂ 5 ta) \ Ἂ “ ᾽ μ“ ὃν εἶναι" ψεῦδος γὰρ οὐκ av ἄλλως ἐγίγνετο ov. Τ]αρ- / Nis , 9S lod \ Cla irs 5 μενίδης δὲ ὁ μέγας, ὦ παῖ, παισὶν μὲν [ἡμῖν] οὖσιν, first confused with the initial ph, and then the remaining letters εστὰ were lost. (15-) ἐν τῷ πρόσθεν χρόνῳ καὶ νῦν] Cf. Theet. 187 ¢: Θράτ- τει μέ πως νῦν Te Kal ἄλλοτε δὴ πολλάκις, ὥστ᾽ ἐν ἀπορίᾳ πολλῇ πρὸς ἐμαυτὸν καὶ πρὸς ἄλλον γε- γονέναι, τί ποτ᾽ ἐστὶ τοῦτο τὸ πάθος map ἡμῖν καὶ τίνα τρόπον ἐγγιγνόμενον --- τὸ δοξάζειν τινὰ ψευδῆ. I. ὅπως --- χαλεπόν] “ For it is most difficult to devise an expression by which one may say or think that false- hoods really exist, and in uttering this avoid being in- volved in self-contradiction.” χαλεπὸν (γνῶναι or λέγειν) ὅπως εἰπόντα χρὴ λέγειν ἢ δοξάζειν ψευδῆ εἶναι, καὶ φθεγξάμενον ἐναντιολογίᾳ μὴ συ- νέχεσθαι. Heindorf, who is followed by Stallbaum, inter- prets the words differently : “ Difficile enim prorsus est dictu, quomodo oporteat ali- quem, qui fieri posse dicat (εἰπόντα) ut falsa quis dicat aut cogitet, dum vel hoe pro- nuntiat (καὶ τοῦτο φθεγξάμενον) non sibimet ipsum contraria proloqui.” ὅπως is here unna- turally separated from εἰπόντα: χρὴ is too remote from the Ξ ὄντως τοῦτο Μ infinitive συνέχεσθαι, and the meaning given to καὶ is forced. For ὅπως εἰπόντα χρὴ λέγειν, cf. Legg. 4, 709 Ὁ: a 3 > , ΄ ταῦτ εἰπόντα δοκεῖν τὸ ὃ ἔστι --- πάντα εὖ λέγειν. 3. συνέχεσθαι expresses the state of distressing uncertainty to which the mind ,15 reduced by Eristic. Cf. Thezet. 165 ο: ἐν φρέατι συνέχομενος. Ar. Eth. Nic. VII. 3: δέδεται yap ἡ διά- νοια, ὅταν μένειν μὲν μὴ βούληται διὰ τὸ μὴ ἀρέσκειν τὸ συμπεραν- θὲν, προιέναι δὲ μὴ δύνηται διὰ τὸ μὴ λῦσαι ἔχειν τὸν λόγον. 6. ὃ λόγος οὗτος] Se. ψευδῆ ὄντως εἶναι. Of. Rep. 4, 440 ἃ: οὗτος μέντοι, ἔφη, ὃ λόγος ση- μαίνει κιτ.λ. 8. παισὶν μὲν [ἡμῖν] οὖσιν, ἀρχό- μενος δὲ καὶ διὰ τέλους] ““Τῦ was in our boyhood that we heard him, but he never ceased to inculeate the same _ lesson.” The Stranger means to inti- mate that although he was young when he heard Parme- nides he had good reason to remember this warning. ἡμῖν, omitted in most MSS., is read for μέν in ΞΒ ΟἹ: &, with the edition of Stephanus, giving also ye for δέ. Hence Bekker reads παισὶν ἡμῖν οὖσιν ἀρχόμενός τε καὶ διὰ τέλους, For how can we affirm the existence of these, with- out contra- dicting the principle which Par- menides taught us, * What is not, never will be found to be 2” 82 > / \ \ \ / ΄ > / ἄρχομενος δὲ καὶ διὰ τέλους τοῦτο ἀπεμαρτύρατο, Pp. 237. [ ΠΛΑΤΏΩΏΝΟΣ Gh 58 CLE λέ Ν Ν , ov" EQ) TE WOE EKAOTOTE AEY@V καὶ μετὰ HET P > ‘ , a9 » r " > <.are Ἔ οὐ γὰρ μή ποτε TOUT Τοὐδαμηϊ, φησίν, εἶναι μὴ ἐόντα ἀλλὰ σὺ τῆσδ᾽ ἀφ᾽ ὁδοῦ διζήμενος εἶργε νόημα. ’ « / x, N Ἃ πάντων ὁ λογος avTOS ἂν I. τοῦτο ἀπεμαρτύρατο] Se. μὴ τὸ μὴ ὃν εἶναι. ““ Uttered his testimony against this.” 3. τοῦτ᾽ Τοὐδαμῇ}} The quo- tation occurs in the same form in the criticism of this passage by Aristotle in Met. XIII. 1089 a (ullo modo, Bessar. vers.), with the various read- ings δαμῆ E., δυνάμει T., μὴ δαμῆ Alex. Heindorf’s conjec- ture, δαῆς, has been adopted by the Zurich editors, and by Mullach (Fragmenta Philoso- phorum), who, however, ex- presses a doubt. Wagner, in Rhein. Museum, suggested λά- Ans. The conjecture φανῇ has occurred independently to the present editor and to Ueber- weg, who also suggests δα- [Soa Οἱ tr 2γο'α: καθ ἅπερ ἂν αὐτῶν θάτερον εἴτε ἀμυ- δρότερον εἴτε σαφέστερον ἄνα- φαίνηται, καὶ θάτερον οὕτως ἀνα- φαίνεσθαι. 258 d (where the lines are quoted again) : Ἡμεῖς δέ ye οὐ μόνον ws ἔστι τὰ μὴ ὄντα ἀπεδείξαμεν, ἀλλὰ καὶ τὸ εἶδος ὃ τυγχάνει ὃν τοῦ μὴ ὄντος ἀπεφη- νάμεθα. 10. 6: Μὴ τοίνυν ἡμᾶς εἴπῃ τις ὅτι τοὐναντίον τοῦ ὄντος τὸ μὴ ὃν ἀποφαινόμενοι τολμῶ- μεν λέγειν ὡς ἔστιν. ΤΌ. ἃ: ἡ θατέρου φύσις ἐφάνη τῶν ὄντων Legg. 7, 818 b: οὐδὲ θεὸς ἀνάγκῃ μή ποτε φανῇ μαχό- μενος. Tuep. 7, ΒΡ Θ᾿ μη οὖσα. 3 lal ’, ’ Ἀ 5παρ᾽ ἐκείνου τε οὖν μαρτυρεῖται, καὶ μάλιστα γε δὴ δηλώσειε μέτρια βασανι- ποτε φανῇ. Karsten, followed by Stallbaum, defends the text on the ground that Parmeni- des is said to have given the maxim both in verse and prose. But it is puerile to imagine that he spoke verse and prose in the same breath, or that Plato would quote a conversational as part of a written utterance. It is cer- tainly remarkable that the same corruption should be found in the copies of Plato and Aristotle. 4. SuGjpevos] This is the reading of all the MSS. in this place. In the later pas- sage, 258 d, where the words are again quoted, διζήμενος is read in Οἱ H. and Corr. B.: μενος =. has διζήσιος : the rest διζή- aus. The latter is probably Parmenides’ word ; but it is possible that Plato may have substituted the more prosaic διζήμενος for this, as in Theet. 173 6, in the quotation from Pindar, φέρεται is probably substituted for πέτεται. The MS. reading is, therefore, re- tained in the text. 6. ὁ λόγος αὐτὸς] οὗτος Bodl. ΤΔΗ et pr. B. But see Theet. 151 a, αὐτοί, and note. The variation is probably due to ὁ λόγος οὗτος above. ὁ λόγος, ΣΟΦΙΣΤΗΣ. σοι διαφέρει. 85 / m9 3 SIN a 4 > ΄ / ), 237. σθείς. τοῦτ᾽ οὖν αὐτὸ πρῶτον θεασώμεθα, εἰ μὴ τί ΘΕΑΙ. Τὸ μὲν ἐμὸν ὅπῃ βούλει τίθεσο, τὸν δὲ / > / “ » / Aoyov, 7 βέλτιστα διέξεισι, σκοπῶν αὐτὸς TE ἴθι » ‘ A / ‘ ε Ν yf καμε KATA ταύτην THY OOOV AYE. EE. ᾿Αλλὰ χρὴ δρᾷν ταῦτα. Kai μοι λέγε: μηδαμῶς ὃν τολμῶμέν που φθέγγεσθαι ; ΘΕΑΙ. Πώς γὰρ οὔ; SE. Μὴ τοίνυν ἔριδος ἕνεκα μηδὲ παιδιᾶς, ἀλλ᾽ > a / [4 4 > / a εἰ σπουδῇ δέοι συννοήσαντά τινα ἀποφήνασθαι τῶν 3 col a \ 3, ΕῚ ,ὔ a \ \ + ἀκροατῶν, ποῖ χρὴ τοὔνομ᾽ ἐπιφέρειν τοῦτο TO μὴ OV" Viz. τὸ μὴ ὃν εἶναι. For αὐτὸς ἂν δηλώσειε, cf. Thexet. 201 a: τάχ᾽ ἂν----οαὐτὸ φήνειε τὸ ζητούμενον. 8. Τὸ μὲν ἐμὸν ὅπῃ βούλει] Referring to the courteous phrase εἰ μή τί σοι διαφέρει. Cf. Rep. 4, 432 Ὁ: μένῳ χρῆ καὶ τὰ δεικνύμενα δυ- ναμένῳ καθορᾷν, πάνυ μετρίως χρήσει. And, for διέξεισι, cf. 27 c ἐᾶν μοι ἑπο- Rep. 6, 484 ἃ: διὰ μακροῦ τινος. “διεξελθόντος λόγου. η. φθέγγεσθαι] “ We are not afraid to use the expression.” Cf. Lege. 2, 655d: τοῦτο--- οὐδ᾽ ὅσιον τὸ παράπαν φθέγγεσθαι. 9. Μὴ τοίνυν --- παιδιᾶς] Cf. Theet. 155 a: οὐ δυσκολαίνον-- τες ἀλλὰ τῷ ὄντι ἡμᾶς αὐτοὺς ἐξετάζοντες. ib. 169 ὁ : καί μοι πάνυ τήρει τὸ τοιόνδε, μή που εἶδος τῶν λόγων ποιούμενοι. The words here are not ironical, but mark the real importance of the inquiry. The sentence is broken by the introduction of the supposition, “ Let us not put the question in a spirit of strife or mockery, but suppose one of the hear- M παιδικόν τι λάθωμεν ers of Parmenides had _ seri- ously to point out, after re- flection, to what this name Not-Being must be given, to what object or kind of objects do we imagine he would be able himself to ap- ply the term, and to direct the questioner to do 80 1) Par- menides is conceived as thus questioning one of his hearers in defence of his thesis. It is also possible to make the first clause a part of the supposi- tion: “Suppose one of the hearers were asked, not in a spirit of strife or mockery, but in good earnest, to give his matured opinion.” But the sentence when thus rendered, though more grammatical, is less conversational. Compare Phileb. 446: δεῖ δή σε, ὦ Ipa- ταρχε, καθάπερ ἐμοί, καὶ τούτοις τοῖς δυσχεραίνουσιν ἀποκρίνεσθαι. Rep. 7, 516 6. 10. ἀποφήνασθαι] The Bodl., with corr. Al and pr. BE, has ἀποκρίνασθαι, which is probably a corruption arising out of the kp in ἀκροατῶν. 2 ~ Let us calmly consider this point, by analyz- ing the assertion— « Not- 10 Being is.” ΤΆ Parme- nides had asked, Of what is Non-exist- ence pre- dicable ? what should we reply ? Certainly not of any 84 » κι ry 4 A Sus, ἔχειν δοκοῦμεν ἂν εἰς τί καὶ ἐπὶ ποῖον αὐτὸν TE κατα- p. 237. IMAATQNOZ joacbar καὶ τῷ πυνθανομένῳ δεικνύναι ; χρῆσασ αἱ και T@ TT UV ανομένῳ εἰκνυναι 5 ΘΕΑΙ. Χαλεπὸν ἤρου καὶ σχεδὸν εἰπεῖν οἵῳ γε 3 Ν / 5, E€MOL πτανταπασιν aTropov. SE. ᾿Αλλ᾽ οὖν τοῦτό ye δῆλον, v4 a JA OTL TOV οντῶν ΕΓ» ἐν VAX ᾽ 5 / ἐστι TL TO μὴ OV οὐκ οἰστεον.- ΘΕΑΙ. Πῶς γὰρ ἂν ; — > a > / ᾽ x \ \ HE. Οὐκοῦν ἐπείπερ οὐκ ἐπὶ τὸ ΕΣ x>~ δὼ (δ ‘ OV, OVO ἐπὶ TO τὶ φέρων ὀρθῶς av τις φέροι. ΘΕΑΙ. Tas δή; μ--ἰ a er 7 ε ἐν Ν ΞΕ. Καὶ τοῦτο ἡμῖν που φανερόν, ὡς καὶ TO τὶ 1. ἔχε] The Bodl. and Vat. have 7: six other MSS. ὅτι : Ven. Π. me ἔχειν : the other nine have ἔχειν. Stall- baum has adopted the Bod- leian reading, and translates : “Quid censemus? cuinam rei et quali designando eum pu- tamus et ipsum illud adhibi- turum et quzrenti demon- straturum ?” But he has not satisfactorily accounted for the appearance of ἔχειν, which makes perfectly good sense. For the emphatic position of eis τί, cf. Prot. 318d: Ἱπποκρά- της--- βελτίων ἄπεισι γενόμενος Kal - ἐπιδώσει εἰς τί, ὦ Πρωταγόρα, also Polit. 265 Kal περὶ τοῦ: 6: ὁ πολιτικὸς ἄρ᾽ ἐπιμέλειαν ἔχειν φαίνεται πότερα κ.τ. A. The two next clauses present equally curious instances of inversion. Cf. also Legg. 6, 776 d: εἰς ἃ καὶ πάντα τὰ τοιαῦτα βλέψαντας ἡμᾶς τί χρὴ ποιεῖν περὶ κτήσεως οἰκετῶν ; 2. δεικνύναι] Se. ἐπιφέρειν. 5. ᾿Αλλ᾽ οὖν τοῦτό γε] Loe. to whatever else the term μὴ ὡς χρείη ὃν may be referred, it cannot be to any existing thing. τῶν ὄντων ἐπί tt] ‘The reading of Ven. II. and seven other MSS. The Bodleian has enl. 8. οὐδ᾽ ἐπὶ τὸ τὶ φέρων] CF. for similar examples of ex- treme analysis, Parm. 161 a: ei δὲ TO ἕν ἐκεῖνο Kal μὴ ἄλλο ὑποκεῖται μὴ εἶναι καὶ τοῦ ἐκείνου καὶ ἄλλων πόλλων ἀνάγκη αὐτῷ μετεῖναι. Thert. 157 Ὁ, 202 a. Also Parm. 164 b: τί δέ; τὸ ἐκείνου ἢ TO ἐκείνῳ, ἢ TO Ti ἢ TO a x A ΄ “Δ 2 a τοῦτο ἢ TO τούτου, ἢ ἄλλου ἢ ἄλλῳ, ἢ ποτὲ ἢ ἔ ἢ νῦ ω, ἢ ἢ ἔπειτα ἢ νῦν, 3 > ΄ Ἂ ΄ x wy a ἢ ἐπιστήμη ἢ δόξα ἢ αἴσθησις ἢ λόγος ἢ ὄνομα ἢ ἄλλο ὁτιοῦν τῶν ὄντων περὶ τὸ μὴ ὃν ἔσται; which, however, is rather par- allel to the next ἀπορία. 11. Kal τοῦτο ἡμῖν που φανερόν] “This also is surely plain to us.” καὶ refers to τοῦτό ye δῆλον above. τὸ τὶ τοῦτο ῥῆμα!͵ ‘This word “something.” ῥῆμα seems to be thrown in by an after- thought, for the sake of ex- plicitness ; so giving τὶ the Ρ. 237. τοῦτο ῥῆμα ἐπ᾽ ὄντι λέγομεν ἑκάστοτε' μόνον γὰρ ΣΟΦΙΣΤΗΣ. 85 > Ν / “ Ν / \ αὐτὸ λέγειν, ὥσπερ γυμνὸν καὶ ἀπηρημωμένον ἀπὸ a ᾿, « / > ᾽ὔ 9) , TOV ὄντων ἁπάντων, ἀδύνατον. ἡ Yap ; OEAI. ᾿Αδύνατον. EE. Ἄρα τῇδε σκοπῶν ξύμφης ὡς ἀνάγκη τόν ’ a 4 / τι λέγοντα ἐν γέ τι λέγειν ; ΘΕΑ,ΑΙ. Οὕτως. HE. Ἑνὸς γὰρ δὴ τό γε τὶ φήσεις σημεῖον εἶναι, Ν \ \ lal XN \ \ “ τὸ δὲ τινὲ δυοῖν, τὸ δὲ τινὲς πολλῶν. ΘΕΑΙ. Πώς γὰρ οὔ: \ ε HE. Τὸν δὲ δὴ μή τι λέγοντα ἀναγκαιότατον, ὡς μ᾿ ΄ \ / EOLKE, παντάπασι μηδὲν λέγειν. OEAI. ᾿Αναγκαιότατον μὲν οὖν. Lara 5) 591 eric > a\ a , \ \ =H. “Ap οὖν οὐδὲ τοῦτο συγχωρητέον, τὸ τὸν τοι- οὔτον λέγειν μέν {τιΐ, λέγειν μέντοι μηδέν, ἀλλ᾽ οὐδὲ λέγειν φατέον, ὅς γ᾽ ἂν ἐπιχειρῇ μὴ ὃν φθέγγεσθαι ; ΘΕΑΙ. Τέλος γοῦν ἂν ἀπορίας ὃ λόγος ἔχοι. force of an adjective, as in such expressions as ἡ Αἴτωλις αὕτη yun. Heindorf conjectures τὸ ῥῆμα, which appears in two MSS. Stallbaum renders ῥῆμα ἐπ᾿ ὄντι “as a predicate of being.” 15. λέγειν [μέν] Fret] τι, which appears in all the MSS., is not wanted, and, if genuine, is used in common parlance (cf. Supr. 236 6, λέγειν μὲν ἄττα) without reference to the pre- ceding argument, just as the ordinary sense of εἶναι, δοκεῖν, etc., is often found within a few lines of the technical use of the same words. μέν, which the Bodleian (not however Vat. A.) omits, is probably right, though the omission may be defended from Thezt. 160 Ὁ : αἰσθανόμενον yap, μηδενὸς δὲ 10. : γλυκὺ γὰρ, μηδενὶ δὲ γλυκύ. μηδὲν] I. 6. μηδὲ ἕν. The argument from μὴ τοίνυν may be thus resumed.—What is denoted by μὴ évt No exist- ing thing: and therefore not something : for every “ some- thing” exists: therefore, ὁ μὴ τι λέγε. But every something is some one thing: therefore, ὁ μή τι λέ- yov οὐδὲν λέγει. But (6 οὐδὲν λέγων) he who says nothing, does not say at all: there- fore 6 μὴ dv λέγων οὐδὲ λέγει. Compare Parm. 144 ο, Theet. 189 e. 17. Τέλος γοῦν ἂν ἀπορίας 6 9 ,΄ αἰσθανόμενον. ὃν λέγων οὔ σι bdo) being—nor of some- thing. For “some” implies being. But “not-some” is “ none,” and to speak none is not to speak, There fol- lows a Se at ee σ5 graver dif- ficulty. If Not-Being is not pre- dicable, neither is aught pre- dicable of the non- existent. And yet Not-Being cannot be uttered or even thought, without implying predicates, such as unity or plurality, which im- ply num- ber, which implies being. 86 ΞΕ. Μήπω μέγ᾽ εἴπῃς" ἔτι yap, ὦ μακάριε, ἔστι, p. 2538} ΠΛΑΤΩΝΟΣ Ν “ 4 fal ΄“ Ν / καὶ ταῦτα γε τῶν ἀποριῶν ἡ μεγίστη καὶ πρώτη. \ \ σ΄ Ν 53 / περὶ γὰρ αὐτὴν αὐτοῦ τὴν ἀρχὴν οὖσα τυγχάνει. ΘΕΑΙ. Πῶς his; λέγε καὶ μηδὲν ἀποκνήσῃς. Lars) yo \ vy A / > 37 a =. To μεν OVTL TOV TPODyEVOIT ἂν TL τῶν yA aS OVT@V ετέρον. ΘΈΑΙ. Πῶς yap ov; EE. Μὴ ὄντι δέ τι τῶν ὄντων apa προσγίγνε- σθαι φήσομεν δυνατὸν εἶναι ; OEAI. Καὶ πώς: EE. ᾿Αριθμὸν δὴ τὸν ξύμπαντα τῶν ὄντων τίθεμεν. OEAI. EZ πέρ γε καὶ ἄλλο τι θετέον ὡς ov. EE. Μὴ τοίνυν μηδ᾽ ἐπιχειρῶμεν ἀριθμοῦ μήτε to / NA XN SS \ xX 7 πλῆθος μὴτε TO EV πρὸς TO μὴ ὃν προσφέρειν. λόγος ἔχοι] ὁ λόγος, SC. τὸ μὴ ὃν εἶναι, aS appears from αὐτοῦ (sc. τοῦ λόγου) below. “ The saying must surely be thus reduced to the last stage of difficulty.” I. Μήπω μέγ᾽ εἴπῃ) There is a tragic tone in the expres- sion. Cf. Legg. 1,638 a: ὦ ἄριστε, μὴ λέγε ταῦτα. ὦ μακάριε] “Mysimple friend !” Cf. Crat. 414 ¢: ὦ μακάριε, οὐκ οἶσθ᾽ ὅτι k.T.A. ἔστι] Sc. ἀπορία, to be sup- plied from ἀποριῶν below. 3. περὶ αὐτὴν αὐτοῦ τὴν ἀρχὴν] One which affects the very be- ginning of the whole matter, i. e. enters into the substance of the term itself, μὴ ὄν. Cf. supr. 233 d: τὴν ἀρχὴν --- τοῦ λεχθέντος --- ἀγνοεῖς. The diffi- culty is this: the word μὴ ὃν or μὴ ὄντα cannot be uttered or thought without a contra- diction: for μὴ ὃν has num- ber, being singular, and μὴ ὄντα has also number, being plural : and number is exist- ence: therefore, in uttering or thinking the word μὴ ὃν or μὴ ὄντα we attach existence to non-existence. In the for- mer ἀπορία it was shewn that non-existence could not be an attribute. Here it is denied that non-existence can be the subject of any attribute: and yet the word cannot be ut- tered without implying attri- butes, such as unity or plu- rality. Cf. Parm. 164 b, quoted above, note on p. 84, 1. 8. 12. Εἴ πέρ ye καὶ ἄλλο τι] 1.6. That is most real of which we have the most distinct con- ception, and our conception of number is most distinct. This is one of the Pythago- rean or later Platonic touches, which become more frequent in the Politicus. b p- 238. d ΣΟΦΙΣΤΗΣ. 87 ΘΕΑΙ. Οὔκουν ἂν ὀρθῶς γε, ὡς ἔοικεν, ἐπιχει- ροῖμεν, ὥς φησιν ὁ λόγος. BE. Πῶς οὖν ἂν 7 διὰ τοῦ στόματος φθέγξαιτ᾽ y+ Ἃ Ν “- 7 Ν ΄, ΄ \ \ av τις ἢ καὶ TH διανοίᾳ τὸ παράπαν λάβοι τὰ μὴ 2, Ἂ SS VN oN Ν > ~ ὄντα ἢ TO μὴ OV χωρὶς ἀριθμοῦ ; ΘΕΑΙ. Λέγε, πῇ: δ εν \ A / 3 ᾽ “ SE. Μὴ ὄντα μὲν ἐπειδὰν λέγωμεν, apa οὐ TAN- θος ἐπιχειροῦμεν ἀριθμοῦ προστιθέναι ; ΘΕΑΙ. Τί μήν ; ἌΝ. "ὃν 53 A 3 BE. Μὴ ὃν δέ, ἄρα οὐ τὸ ἕν αὖ; OEAI. Σαφέστατά γε. BE. Καὶ μὴν οὔτε δίκαιόν γε οὔτ᾽ ὀρθόν φαμεν ὃν ἐπιχειρεῖν μὴ ὄντι προσαρμόττειν. ΘΕΑΙ. Λέγεις ἀληθέστατα. EE. Συννοεῖς οὖν ὡς οὔτε φθέγξασθαι δυνατὸν τ5 Not-Being > a SE) 9 ΄σ yf lo Ν \ * SN ορθῶς ovr εἰπεῖν ovTE διανοηθῆναι TO μὴ ὃν αὐτὸ > 5 / > 8 0) > ΄ ῇ Ν aS Ν καθ᾽ αὐτο, ἀλλ᾽ ἐστιν ἀδιανοητὸν τε καὶ ἄρρητον καὶ ἀφθεγκτον καὶ ἄλογον : ΘΈΑΙ. Παντάπασι μὲν οὖν. is therefore unutter- able and inconcely- able. μι 3 » 5 ΄, 5, , XN EE. “Ap οὖν ἐψευσάμην ἄρτι λέγων τὴν μεγί- 20 But the / lal 5 a / στὴν ἀπορίαν ἐρεῖν αὐτου πέρι» ΘΕΑΙ. Τί δέ; y EXOLED 5 yay \ / ἔτι μείζω τινὰ λέγειν ἄλλην —= / 7 S id > 3 ΄σ » na ΄ ΞΕ. Τί δέ, ὦ θαυμάσιε; οὐκ ἐννοεῖς αὐτοῖς τοῖς 10, μὴ ὃν δὲ] Se. ἐπειδὰν λέ- γωμεν. 15. Συννοεῖς] “ Do you gather or collect” (as the sum of the preceding remarks). 16. ὀρθῶ] Cf. ὀρθὸν supr. That it can be uttered appears from our using the expression. Cf. supr. 237 Ὁ: τὸ μηδαμῶς ὃν τολμῶμέν που φθέγγεσθαι. αὐτὸ καθ᾽ αὐτό] Ι. 6, Not to speak of using it as ἃ predi- cate or subject. 17. ἀδιανόητον x.7.r.] “ Un- thinkable, unspeakable, unut- terable, and indescribable.” 20. “Ap οὖν} “ Was I then wrong in saying just now that I would tell you the greatest difficulty ?” I.e. A greater is behind. 24. Ti δέ, ὦ θαυμάσιε] 1. 6, greatest paradox is still be- hind, As Not- Being cannot be asserted or receive at- tributes, so neither can Not-Being be denied. For in say- ing “it is unspeak- able,” &c., we attri- bute Being to it, and also unity: which this very word “it” im- plies. 15 88 “ [2 Ν Ν » / λεχθεῖσιν ὅτι καὶ τὸν ἐλέγχοντα εἰς ἀπορίαν καθί- p. 238. ΠΛΑΤΩΝΟΣ X \ x» od σ ε / > Ns ’ a σΤῆσι TO μὴ OV OUTMS WUTE, OTTOTAVY AUTO ETTLYXELPY) 3 / » / eK e “ > “ > τις ἐλέγχειν, ἐναντία αὐτὸν αὑτῷ περὶ ἐκεῖνο ἀναγ- κάζεσθαι λέγειν ; 8. ©EAI. Πῶς φῇς; εἰπὲ ἔτι σαφέστερον. EE. Οὐδὲν δεῖ τὸ σαφέστερον ἐν ἐμοὶ σκοπεῖν. 5 \ \ A c / 3) ἘΌΝ Ε) ΄σ a ἐγὼ μὲν yap ὑποθέμενος ovTE ἑνὸς οὔτε τῶν πολλῶν Ν \ ΕΝ lo 7 357 Ν ων “ A > Ν ΤῸ μὴ ον δεῖν μετέχειν, APTL TE και νυν OUTWS ἐν αὑτὸ εἴρηκα" τὸ μὴ ὃν γὰρ φημί. 10 ΘΕΑΙ. Ναί. ξυνιεῖς τοι ; ΞΕ. Καὶ μὴν αὖ καὶ σμικρὸν ἔμπροσθεν ἀφθεγ- ΄ SN Ν 396: Ν yy yy 53 KTOV τε αὑτὸ καὶ ἄρρητον καὶ ἄλογον ἐφὴν εἰναι. ξυνέπει : ΘΕΑΙ. Zuveropuai πως. aE Ov la , 53 7 / 414. Ouxovy To ye εἰναι προσάπτειν πειρώμενος 3 / 5 / » ἐναντία τοῖς προσθεν ἐλεγον ; “T am surprised that you do not see.” (24.) αὐτοῖς τοῖς λεχθεῖσιν | Either the dative is governed by ἐν in ἐννοεῖς, “Do you not see that this is implied even in what has been said?” cf. supr. 223 ¢, ἐν τοῖς πρόσθεν εἰρημένοις φάντασμα παρέχεται K.T.A. ; OF (Heind. Stallb.) αὐτοῖς τοῖς λε- χθεῖσιν -- καὶ ἐκ τῶν λεχθέντων. Cf. Xen. Cyrop. 8, 1, 37% τοῖς προειρημένοις δῆλον. I. καὶ τὸν ἐλέγχοντα! “Νού- Being reduces its opponent, equally with its supporter, to the same straits,” i. e. can neither be asserted nor denied. In the spirit of the Parmenides, Plato here points out that Not-Being neither is nor is not. Compare also Theetetus, 183 a, b.. This ar- gument has an important bear- ing on the whole dialogue. The impossibility of criticising Not-Being when conceived ab- solutely leads to the necessity of modifying the conception of Negation. 3. ἐκεῖνο] This pronoun is used for the sake of distinct- ness to prevent the further repetition of αὐτός with refer- ence to a different subject. 8. ἄρτι] Supr. eis ἀπορίαν καθ- ἰστησι TO μὴ ὄν. νῦν οὕτως] Viz. in the pre- vious clause, τὸ μὴ ὃν δεῖν μετέ- χειν. 9. ξυνιεῖς τοι ;| “ You surely understand ?” Cf. Thezet.155 ¢: ἕπει yap που, ὦ Θ. τί ESYb, whence Stallb. τι. Cf Men. 76 d: ξυνὲς 6 τοι λέγω (Pind.) 15. τό ye εἶναι] This refers, ). 230. ΣΟΦΙΣΤῊΣ: SEAL. Paive. 89 BE. Ti δέ; τοῦτο προσάπτων οὐχ ws ἑνὶ διελε- γόμην ; ΘΕΑ,ΑΙ. Nai. » / A Ν BE. Καὶ μὴν ἄλογόν τε λέγων καὶ ἄρρητον καὶ 5 3» id Ν a ΝΣ U > / ἀφθεγκτον ws ye πρὸς ἐν Tov λόγον ἐποιούμην. ΘΕΑΙ. Πῶς δ᾽ οὔ; EE. Φαμὲν δέ γε δεῖν, εἴπερ ὀρθῶς τις λέζει, μήτε ὡς ev μήτε ὡς πολλὰ διορίζειν αὐτό, μηδὲ τὸ 7 2 XN ae ΟῸΝ Ν 5) Ν \ / παράπαν αὐτο καλεῖν" ἐνὸς yap εἴδει καὶ κατὰ TAU- το ΩΝ Χ / , THY QV Τὴν 7 POG pHnatVv προσαγορεύοιτο. not, as Stallbaum says, to the preceding predicates generally, but to the word εἶναι in the previous sentence and ἔστιν supra. (16.) ἐναντία τοῖς πρόσθεν] Supr. 238 a: Μὴ ὄντι δέ τι τῶν ὄντων dpa προσγίγνεσθαι φήσομεν δυνατὸν εἶναι; Καὶ πῶς ; 2. τοῦτο προσάπτων] “In the act of applying Being to Not- Being, I addressed the latter as one,” Viz. in using the sin- gular verb ἔστιν : supr.c. ἑνὶ is governed by διελεγόμην, not, as Stallb. says, by προσάπτων understood. “ Did I not talk with it as one?” διαλέγεσθαι is substituted, with a touch of liveliness, for προσαγορεύειν. 9. μηδὲ τὸ παράπαν αὐτὸ κα- λεῖ}] Cf. Theet. 202 a: οὐδὲ TO αὐτὸ οὐδὲ TO ἐκεῖνο οὐδὲ TO ἕκαστον οὐδὲ τὸ μόνον οὐδὲ τοῦτο προσοιστέον, οὐδ᾽ ἄλλα πολλὰ τοι- aura, 10, ἑνὸς yap εἴδει] So Bod. and A, the rest vary between ἔν τε yap εἴδει (CTABC, corr. I. pr. EF), & re γὰρ εἴδει (ZEYH), and ἕν τε γὰρ ἤδη (i? pr. ΠῚ edd. vett.), whence Heindorf conjectured ἔν τι yap ἤδη, which Bekker has adopted. This deserves to be considered as possibly right: especially since the technical appearance of εἴδει, when this had once crept in, might give rise to further corruption. But ὡς seems to be required to com- plete the sentence as it would then stand: and the Bodleian reading is therefore here re- tained. It is unnecessary to add ev with the Zurich editors: the expression ἑνὸς εἴδει προσ- αγορεύεσθαι = “to be spoken of under a form of unity,” is analogous to ὀνόματι or λόγῳ προσαγορεύεσθα. Cf, Thest. 148 d: ὥσπερ ταύτας---ἑνὶ εἴδει περιέλαβες, οὕτω στήμας ἑνὶ λόγῳ προσειπεῖν. Ib. 147 ἃ: συλλαβεῖν εἰς ἕν, ὅτῳ προσαγορεύσομεν---τὰς δυνά- pecs. Compare also Phileb. 64 6: εἰ μὴ μιᾷ δυνάμεθα idea τὸ ἀγαθὸν θηρεῦσαι. καὶ ᾿ \ 2 Kat Τὰς ετι- κατὰ ταύτην τὴν πρόύσ- ρησιν] Viz. in being called αὐτό. This note, like some of the But let the youthful might of Theztetus 90 ΘΕΑΙ. Παντάπασί γε. ΠΛΑΤΏΩΏΝΟΣ Ν \ » / M4 ͵ x / BE. Tov μὲν τοίνυν ἐμέ ye ere tis ἂν λέγοι; Ὁ \ ΄ Ν a « ,ὔ “Δ “ἤ Ν καὶ γὰρ πάλαι καὶ τὰ νῦν ἡττημένον GY εὕροι περὶ WV ΄- \ 7 57 TOV τοῦ μὴ οντος ἐλεγχον. “ > y / ὥστε ἐν ἐμοιγε λέγοντι; ΄ 3 \ a \ ᾽ 7 \ sKa0amep εἶπον, μὴ σκοπῶμεν THY ὀρθολογίαν περὶ Ν Ν yw 3 \ cal / TO μὴ OV, GAN εἰα On, viv ἐν σοὶ σκεψώμεθα. ΘΕΑΙ. Πῶς φής: ἸΞΗ ἢ "16 fol. 7x 3 Ν / “ / 4 “ oy lL NUW εὖ και YEVVALWS, ATE νεὸς WY, O TL aN ὃ 74 / 10 / 3 / μαλιστα OVVATAL DVVTELVAS TIELPAUNTL, [LITE OVOLAV preceding, would have been unnecessary, but for that of Stallbaum, who renders: “Si modo nomine aliquo designe- tur.” 2. Tov ἐμὲ] Cf. Theet. 166 a, Phileb. 20 b. τίς ἂν λέγοι :] ‘Who would any longer take account of me?” This reading is sup- ported by nine MSS. (Bodl. ἐμέτετιτίς), and is preferable to that of the editions: τί τις ἂν λέγοι. But if the latter is ac- cepted, it means not “what is to be said of me?” but “why should any one speak of,” or “take account of, me?” Cf. supr. 224 a, λέγωμεν, and note. 3. καὶ----πάλαι καὶ τανῦν] CF. Theet. 187 d: θράττει μέ πως νῦν τε καὶ ἄλλοτε πολλάκις, ὥστε ἐν ἀπορίᾳ πολλῇ πρὸς ἐμαυτὸν καὶ πρὸς ἄλλον γεγονέναι κ.τ.λ. 4. ἐν ἔμοιγε λέγοντι---ἔν σοι] “Let us not study from my mouth the right mode of ex- pression about Not-Being, but let us make the experiment On πος (δ᾽ ἘΙΘΡΡ, ΤΠπ ἃ: Εἰ βούλει, ἔφη, ἐπ᾽ ἐμοῦ λέγειν. 5. καθάπερ εἶπον] Viz. supr.: Οὐδὲν δεῖ τὸ σαφέστερον ἐν ἐμοὶ Perhaps in λέγοντι there is a false echo from λέγοι. 6. εἶα δὴ] So Zi, with the old editions. The expression is “tragic,” like Μήπω μέγ᾽ εἴπης, supr. 238 a; and does not ap- pear too strong when compared with what immediately follows. The reading of most MSS., ἔα δὴ, is less spirited, and the con- struction ἔα σκεψώμεθα 15 ques- tionable. 8. “Idi—atrov] ‘ You have all the noble enthusiasm of youth. Come then, endeavour with all your might to make some right utterance about Not-Being, without attaching to it either substance or unity or plurality.” “I should be possessed with a strange eager- ness in making the attempt were I to try my hand when I see you in such extremity.” ἅτε νέος ὼν---πειράθητι] For a slightly different touch of ironical playfulness, (turning on the easiness and not, as here, on the difficulty of the question asked,) cf. Phileb. 65 Ὁ: βλέψας εἰς τρία, νοῦν καὶ ἀλήθειαν καὶ ἡδονὴν, πολὺν ἐπισχὼν χρόνον, ἀπόκριναι σαυτῷ κ-τ.λ. 9. μήτε οὐσίαν----αὐτοῦ]! Com- σκοπεῖν. ΣΟΦΙΣΤΗΣ. 91 0. 239. μήτε τὸ ἐν μήτε πλῆθος ἀριθμοῦ προστιθεὶς τῷ μὴ ὄντι, κατὰ τὸ ὀρθὸν φθέγξασθαί τι περὶ αὐτοῦ. OEAI. Πολλὴ μέντ᾽ ἄν με καὶ ἀτοπος ἔχοι προ- / a / > \ Ay? ¢ a ΄ θυμία τῆς ἐπιχειρήσεως, εἰ σε τοιαῦθ᾽ ὁρῶν πασχοντα > ‘\ > / QuTos ἐεπιίχειροιὴν. al \ \ \ / a BE. ᾿Αλλ᾽ εἰ δοκεῖ, σὲ μὲν καὶ ἐμε χαίρειν ἐῶμεν" oo δ᾽ » ὃ 7 ὃ Qn rm of) 5 / EWS QV τινι VVALEV Pov TOUT εντυγχάνωμεν, μέχρι τούτου λέγωμεν ὡς παντὸς μᾶλλον πανούρ- γως εἰς ἄπορον ὁ σοφιστὴς τόπον καταδέδυκεν. ΘΕΑΙ. Καὶ μάλα δὴ φαίνεται. - BA / 5. Ν 37 HE. Tovyapovy εἴ τινα φήσομεν αὐτὸν ἔχειν φαν- Χ / e 5 7 io / a ταστικὴν TEXVNY, ῥᾳδίως εκ ταυτῆς τῆς χρείας τῶν / >’ / c cr > ᾽ / > Aoyov ἀντιλαμβανόμενος ἡμῶν εἰς τουναντιον ἀπο- pare Parmen. 161 a: εἰ μέντοι μήτε TO ἕν μήτ᾽ ἐκεῖνο μὴ ἔσται, ἀλλὰ περὶ ἄλλου του ὁ λόγος, οὐδὲ φθέγγεσθαι δεῖ οὐδέν: εἰ δὲ τὸ ἕν ἐκεῖνο καὶ μὴ ἄλλο ὑπόκειται μὴ εἶναι, καὶ τοῦ ἐκείνου καὶ ἄλλων πολλῶν ἀνάγκη αὐτῷ μετεῖναι. 2. κατὰ τὸ ὀρθόν] Cf. Thezet. 171 6: ἄδηλον εἰ καὶ παραθέο- μεν τὸ ὀρθόν. Several MSS. have κατὰ τὸν ὀρθὸν λόγον. 3. προθυμία τῆς ἐπιχειρήσεως] Lit. ‘‘ forwardness in attempt- ing:” gen. of respect. Cf. Phaedo 99 Ὁ: πολλὴ ἂν καὶ pa- κρὰ ῥᾳθυμία εἴη τοῦ λόγου. 8. παντὸς μᾶλλον καταδέδυκεν] “has with unparalleled cunning hid himself in a very trouble- some cover.” Cf. Rep. 4, 432 c: δύσβατός γέ τις 6 τόπος φαί- νεται καὶ ἐπίσκιος" ἔστι γοῦν σκο- τεινὸς καὶ δυσδιερεύνητος. ἀλλὰ γὰρ ὅμως ἰτέον. 11. Τοιγαροῦν ---- ἀποκρινεῖται | “Therefore when we call his art phantastic, by this method he will easily grapple with us N and disarm us, asking, when we call him an image-maker, what we mean by an image generally. We must consider, then, Thezetetus, what answer can be given to this question of our sinewy foe.” φανταστικὴν τέχνην] The main argument is here resumed from Ῥ. 236 ο. 12. ἐκ ταύτης τῆς χρείας] “Α- vailing himself of this line of argument.” Viz.: that just indicated, by which appearance is shewn to rest on Not-Being: and Not-Being is proved to be inconceivable. ἐκ here ex- presses the means. 13. ἀντιλαμβανόμενος----λόγους] “ He will grapple with us and retort our argument upon us, as it were binding our hands behind our backs.” The implied metaphor In ἀντιλαμβάνεσθαι---- used frequently of an objector’s arguments—suggests the bolder image taken from the common expression ἀποστρέψαι τινὸς τὰς fo) try to in- vent some more ac- curate ex- pression. Tf this be impossible, the Sophist must be allowed to have hid himself in a very TO « dark tower.” For if ac- cused of “ phantas- tic” or of image- making, he will ask “What is an image?” And if we answer ‘fa reflection, mould, or picture,” he will make as if he were blind, and ask for a definition that does not need the help of visible examples. 92 ΠΛΑΤΏΝΟΣ / A / “ 5 \ ᾽ Ν ΄σ' στρέψει τοὺς λόγους, ὅταν εἰδωλοποιὸν αὐτὸν καλῶ- p. 239. ἢ > lal Ν / 5, ᾽’, μεν, ἀνερωτῶν τί ποτε τὸ παράπαν εἴδωλον λέγομεν. - 3 3 / / / “ , ‘ σκοπεῖν οὖν, ὦ Θεαίτητε, χρή; TL τις τῷ νεανίᾳ πρὸς Ν > / lal TO ἐρωτώμενον ἀποκρινεῖται. a “ / 7 > lal “ὕ 5. OEAT. Δῆλον ὅτι φήσομεν τά τε ἐν τοῖς ὕδασι Ν / 7 “ 27 ἈΝ Ν / Ν x καὶ κατόπτροις ELOWAG, ETL καὶ τὰ γεγραμμένα καὶ TA ΄ Ν 53 “ re, Lf > TeTUT@pEVaA Kal τάλλα, OTH TOU τοιαῦτα εστιν ἕτερα; EE. Φανερός, ὦ Θεαΐτητε, εἶ σοφιστὴν οὐχ ἑω- ὁ ιορακώς. ΘΕΑΙ. Τί δή ; ; ’, 7 Ὁ / > 27 ΞΕ. Δόξει σοι μύειν ἢ παντάπασιν οὐκ ἔχειν δ΄ ομματα. OEAT. Πως; \ / 7 > > 5 Ν 15 EE. Τὴν ἀπόκρισιν ὅταν οὕτως αὐτῷ διδῷς, ἐὰν » / Δ / / ΄ ΄ εν κατοπτροῖς ἢ πλάσμασι λέγῃς τι, καταγελάσεται σου τῶν λόγων, ὅταν ws βλέποντι λέ αὐτῷ ν λόγων, ὅταν ὡς π γῃς Dy , 2, 7 57 v4 / προσποιούμενος OUTE KATOTTTPQH OUTE ὕδατα γίγνω- χεῖρας. Cf. Legg. τ,626 6: πάλιν τὸν λόγον ἀναστρέψωμεν. I. 6. “ Let us make the converse statement.” Theet. τοι c: πάντα petaotpepovta λόγον βα- σανίζειν. τοὺς λόγους is brought in παρὰ προσδοκίαν at the end of the sentence. Compare the metaphorical use of συμποδίζειν and παραποδίζειν. 1. ὅταν εἰδωλοποιὸν] For the double sentence (εἰ----ὅταν), cf. Thezt. 199 Ὁ : érav—ére. So also immediately below, where ὅταν is resumed by ἐάν. 3. τῷ νεανίᾳ] Not necessarily = homo protervus vel insolens (Ast.). “This fine fellow.” “The young man,” in a playful sense. Cf. Rep. 8,549 b: Kat ἔστι μὲν----τοιοῦτός τις 6 τιμοκρα- Phedr. 257 d: Τελοῖόν γ᾽, ὦ νεανία, τὸ δόγμα Eur. Ale. 698 : ἢ τοῦ καλοῦ σου προὔθανεν νεανίου. 12. Δόξει σοι μύειν] “ He will seem as one who has his eyes shut.” δοκεῖν is used here to express an appearance volun- tarily assumed. For μύειν, ef. Thezt. 163 6 : ἢ καὶ μύσας. 16. ἢ πλάσμασι] Referring to Ta γεγραμμένα καὶ τὰ τετυπωμένα supra. For ἐὰν resuming ὅταν, which was doubted by Heindorf, ef. Rep. 4, 445 a, Ὁ; Ib. 7, 529 Ὁ, c—where there is similar va- riation in resuming with ἐάν. τικὸς νεανίας. λέγεις. ΣΟΦΙΣΤΗΣ. 93 | ¥y Ἂν δ ΕΣ N p. 240. OKELY οὗτε TO παράπαν ὄψιν, TO / / ἐρωτήσει σε μόνον. ΘΙΕΑΙ. ἸΠοῦον ; > / c lol ἠξίωσας ἑνὶ προσειπεῖν ον lol « A OwAov ἐπὶ πᾶσιν ὡς ἕν τοιοῦτον ; 1. τὸ δ᾽ ἐκ τῶν λόγων] In this, as in other respects, the Sophistic method is the carica- ture of that of Socrates. Cf. Theet. 146, Meno 79. There is a strong likeness between the Sophist here described and the πελταστικὸς ἀνὴρ μισθόφορος ἐν λόγοις ἐρόμενος, with whom The- ztetus is threatened by So- crates in Theet. 165 c-e: and there is certainly an analogy between the method now satir- ized and the ψιλοὶ λόγοι of which Theodorus speaks in the same dialogue (Theet. 165 a). Contrast, however, with this dialectical treatment of the difficulties attending the con- ception of Not-Being, the Hris- tic use of the same question by Euthydemus (Euthyd. 283 e—285 a) and the retort of Socrates (ib. 286). The expres- sion in the text perhaps in- dicates a certain reaction from the idea of basing knowledge on purely abstract definitions. Cf. supr. 234 e, and compare the Euthydemus, especially p- 290. For the use of ἐκ (= What may be gathered τ \ , \ SE. To διὰ πάντων τούτων, ἃ πολλὰ εἰπὼν ὀνόματι, + ον. \ « lal ἊΝ 3) μηδὲν ὑποχωρῶν, τὸν ἀνδρα. a 5 3, Ἂ a 3 ΘΕΑΙ. Τί δῆτα, ὦ ξένε, εἴδωλον ἂν φαῖμεν εἶναι ’ Ν Ν 9 \ > / a πλὴν ye TO πρὸς τάληθινον ἀφωμοιωμένον ἕτερον » 3 ΄“ ͵ὔ δ᾽ ἐκ τῶν Aoyav What is that one nature, he will ask, in right of which these various ob- jects have a common name ? φθεγξάμενος εἴ- 5 λέγε οὖν καὶ ἀμύνου, Another like thing fashioned from argument), οἵ, Gore. 516 d: οὐκ ap ἀγαθὸς τὰ πολιτικὰ Περικλῆς ἢν ἐκ τούτου τοῦ λόγου. Οὐ σύ γε φής. Μὰ Δί᾽, οὐδέ γε σύ, ἐξ ὧν ὡμολόγεις. The word is here used in the more restricted sense of “abstract reasoning.” τῶν λόγων] 4. τὸ διὰ πάντων τούτων] “That which interpenetrates all these.” Cf. infr. 253 d: μίαν ἰδέαν διὰ πολλῶν, ἑνὸς ἑκά- στου κειμένου χωρίς, πάντῃ δια- τεταμένην. 5. φθεγξάμενος----ν ὄν] The common term is not dis- tinguished from the common nature. 7. tov ἄνδρα! The accusa- tive is probably governed, ὑπερβάτως, by ἀμύνου, accord- ing to the inverted style of these dialogues. Heindorf, who connects ὑποχωρῶν τὸν ἄνδρα, compares Phileb. 43 a: ὑπεκστῆναι τὸν λόγον ἐπιφερόμε- νον τοῦτον βούλομαι. But the parallel is impaired by the participle ἐπιφερόμενον. 9. πρὸς τἀληθινὸν a.] “ Fa- shioned to the resemblance of what is real.” 04 ΠΛΑΤΩΝΟΣ - \ ΒΕ , τὰ after the EE. “Erepov δὲ λέγεις τοιοῦτον ἀληθινόν, ἢ ἐπὶ p. 240.1) real : 5 Not likein τίνι TO τοιοῦτον εἶπτες 5 b being real? ΘΈΑΙ. Οὐδαμῶς ἀληθινόν ye, ἀλλ᾽ ἐοικὸς μέν. EE. ἾΑρα τὸ ἀληθινὸν ὄντως ὃν λέγων ; 5 OEAI. Οὕτως. EE. Ti δέ; τὸ μὴ ἀληθινὸν ap ἐναντίον ἀλη- θοῦς ; ΘΕΑΙ. Τί μήν; > 4 pz oN ,ὔ / Ἂν Ἂς , yj HE. Οὐκ *ovtas* ov apa λέγεις τὸ ἐοικός, εἴπερ A likeness is not real, and yet it has a sort > ἢ Nees τ am aes of being. r10@uTo ye μὴ ἀληθινὸν ἐρεῖς. OEAI. ᾿Αλλ᾽ ἐστί ye μήν Tos. 1. Ἕτερον---ἀληθινόν] “When you say ‘such another, do you mean another real thing?” Cf. Rep. 1, 333 a: Ξυμβόλαια δὲ λέ- yels κοινωνήματα, ἤ τι ἄλλο ; 3. ἐοικὸς μὲν] Subaud. ἀληθι- νὸν © ov. Cf. Rep. 5, 475 d: τούτους οὖν πάντας φιλοσόφους φήσομεν ; Οὐδαμῶς, εἶπον, ἀλλ᾽ ὁμοίους μὲν φιλοσόφοις. 6. τὸ μὴ--- ἄρ᾽ ἐναντίον] This rests on the conception of Not- Being as the opposite of Being, which it is one chief object of this dialogue to modify. Hence probably the emphasis (apa, ‘surely ?’) with which the ques- tion is put and answered (ri μήν ; ‘of course’). The phrase εἰκὼν ὄντως occurs again in Legg. 2, 668 d. 9. οὐκ *dvras* ὃν] The cor- rection of the Zurich editors, which is both clearly intelli- gible and accounts for the va- riety of readings. Bekker, with most MSS., gives οὐκ dv; Bodl. ΔΙ, οὐκ ὄντων οὐκ ὃν : H, οὐκ ὄντως οὐκ ov: Proclus, οὐκ ὄντος οὐκ ὃν. The reading οἵ &, which Hermann has adopted, is too abrupt an inference from the preceding lines, and antici- pates the point which is made afterwards. αὐτὸ is unemphatic, and ye is to be taken closely with εἴπερ as modifying the whole clause. “ You mean then by an image what is not really existent, if, at least, you will speak of it as unreal.” Another way of correcting the passage is to read ὄντων οὐκ ὃν: “An image is of realities, but itself unreal.” αὐτὸ would then be emphatic. But the former mode is simpler, and therefore better. 11. OE. ᾿Αλλ᾽ ἔστι ye μήν πως] This arrangement of the speak- ers is due to Οὐ. Ε΄, Hermann. The other editions and MSS. give ἀλλ᾽ ἔστι ye μήν to the Stranger. To which Theztetus answers mas; but receives no direct reply. This awkward- ness is avoided by Hermann’s arrangement ; and Theztetus is led to admit in so many words ὅτε ἡ εἰκὼν ἔστιν οὐκ ὃν. Thus a point is covertly made towards the main argument. ). 240. ο ΣΟΦΙΣΤΗΣ. EE. Οὔκουν ἀληθῶς γε, φῇς. ΘΕΑΙ. Οὐ γὰρ οὖν: πλήν γ᾽ εἰκὼν ὄντως. μ- > ΕΝ SYA > ” > Ν "7 Δ ΞΕ, Οὐκ OV apa Οὐκ OVT@S EOTLY OVTMS ἢν / / λέγομεν εἰκονα 5 ΘΕΑΙ. Κινδυνεύει τοιαύτην τινὰ πεπλέχθαι συμ- N\ \ XN oS n~ Wf Ν , 5) πλοκὴν τὸ μὴ OV τῷ OVTL, καὶ μάλα αἀτοπον. =E Ila A > yf < « lal a a Ν ey Je Ws yap οὐκ aTOTTOV 5 Ορᾷς yovv OTL Και a lal > / ε νῦν διὰ τῆς ἐπαλλάξεως ταύτης ὁ πολυκέφαλος c a ΕΝ « σοφιστὴς ἠνάγκακεν ἡμᾶς τὸ μὴ ὃν οὐχ ἑκόντας ε la οἰ / ομολογεῖν εἶναι πως. ΘΕΑΙ. ‘Ope καὶ μάλα. HE. Τί δὲ δή; τὴν τέχνην αὐτοῦ τίνα ἀφορί- Cn a a ef ͵ σαντες ἡμῖν αὐτοῖς συμφωνεῖν οἷοί τε ἐσόμεθα : ΘΕΑΙ. In καὶ τὸ ποῖόν τι φοβούμενος οὕτω λέγεις ; For πως, cf. infr.: ὀμολογεῖν εἶναί πως, ἤ πως εἶναι τὰ μηδαμῆ ὄντα, εἶναί πως τὰ μὴ ὄντα. I. Οὔκουν] Stallbaum reads οὐκοῦν, with nine MSS., for the vulg. οὐκ ὃν, But the answer of Theztetus seems to require the negative οὔκουν. γε, bys] Bodl. ΔΗ, γ᾽ ἔφην: probably from ye μήν supra. 3. οὐκ ὄν--- ὄντως] Οὐκ ὃν be- cause οὐκ ἀληθινὸν, οὐκ ὄντως because οὐκ ἀληθῶς, ὄντως be- cause εἰκὼν ὄντως. ‘ What we call an image is really, without having reality, an unreal thing.” 5. τοιαύτην τινα---συμπλοκήν] Cf. Lege. 9, 863 b: τὸ τῆς ἀδι- κίας τε καὶ βλάβης διάφορον καὶ τὸ τῶν ἑκουσίων τε καὶ ἀκουσίων ὡς ἐν τούτοις διαπεποίκιλται. 7. ὁρᾷς γοῦν ὅτι] The Bodl. MS. gives these words only in the margin, where Gaisford read ὁρᾷς οὖν, but the y, though nearly lost, may be traced, where the words were blotted while the ink was still wet, on the opposite leaf. The Stranger recals Thetetus from merely wondering at the result to ob- serve the point of the diffi- culty. 8. διὰ τῆς ἐπαλλάξεως ταύτης] “Through this reciprocation of opposites.” πολυκέφαλον] I, 6. “ whom we have already slain in so many shapes.” There is of course an allusion to the hydra. Cf. Euthyd. 297 ὁ: τῆῇ---ὕδρᾳ, σοφιστρίᾳ οὔσῃ, καὶ διὰ τὴν σο- φίαν ἀνιείσῃ, εἰ μίαν κεφαλὴν τοῦ λόγου τις ἀποτέμοι, πολλὰς ἀντὶ τῆς μιᾶς. 9. ἠνάγκακεν] So Bodl., with the nine MSS. mentioned by Bekker. Vulg. ἠνάγκασεν. It is really an unreal- ity, though not really anything. 5 Thus the Sophist has forced us to ad- mit that that which is not, is. How then shall we 15 consis- tently de- scribe his art ? Shall we say that he creates a false im- pression ; that a false im- pression attributes being to non-exist- ence, and vice versa ; and that a false propo- sition does the same ? 96 ΠΛΆΤΩΝΟΣ oral “ Ν Ν 7 3.5600 , n ΞΕ. Ὅταν περὶ τὸ φάντασμα αὐτὸν ἀπατᾷν p. 240.) as \ , 3 > \ > a φῶμεν Kal τὴν τέχνην εἰναί τινα ἀπατητικὴν αὐτοῦ, / / - fe She \ \ e lal “4 τότε πότερον Ψευδὴ δοξάζειν τὴν ψυχὴν ἡμῶν φη- ἘΧῸΝ A ᾽ , / aN / 3.5 a σομεν ὑπὸ τῆς ἐκείνου τέχνης, ἢ TL TOT ἐροῦμεν 5 5 SEAL. Τοῦτο: τί γὰρ ἂν ἄλλο εἴπαιμεν ; EE. Ψευδὴς δ᾽ αὖ δόξα ἔσται τἀναντία τοῖς οὖσι δοξάζουσα, ἢ πῶς: ΘΈΑΙ. Ταναντία. EE. Λέγεις ἄρα τὰ μὴ ὄντα δοξάζειν τὴν ψευδῆ 10 δόξαν ; ΘΈΑΙ. ᾿Αναγκη. EE. Πότερον μὴ εἶναι τὰ μὴ ὄντα δοξαζουσαν, ἤ 5) Ν “ 2 TOS εἶναι τὰ μηδαμῶς OVTA ; ΘΕΑΙ. Eval πως τὰ μὴ ὄντα δεῖ ye, εἴπερ ψεύ- / 2... \ \ , 15 O€TQAL ποτε TLS TL και KATA βραχυ. an icy \ 7 BE. Ti δ᾽; ov καὶ μηδαμῶς εἶναι Ta πάντως ὄντα δοξάζεται ; OEAI. Nai. HE. Καὶ τοῦτο δὴ ψεῦδος ; 20 ΘΆΒΆΑΙ. Kai τοῦτο. Sr , 3 \ “ κ > A SE. Καὶ λόγος, οἶμαι, ψευδὴς οὕτω κατὰ ταῦτα las / i? y 7 \ 5) Ν ἱταῦτα] νομισθήσεται Ta τε ὄντα λέγων μὴ εἶναι καὶ Ν VY 3 Ta μη οντα εἰναι. ΘΕΑΙ. Πῶς γὰρ ἂν ἄλλως τοιοῦτος γένοιτο ; 6. τἀναντία τοῖς οὖσι] These- tetus is again made to assert the view of Not-Being as the opposite of Being, which is pre- sently modified. See below, 258 6: Μὴ τοίνυν ἡμᾶς εἴπῃ τις ὅτι TOU- ναντίον τοῦ ὄντος τὸ μὴ ὃν ἀποφαι- νόμενοι τολμῶμεν λέγειν ὡς ἔστιν. 14. δεῖ ye] Se. λέγειν αὐτὴν δοξάζειν. 19, 20, 21. καὶ----ο-καὶ----καὶ] = SPANO. 21. κατὰ ταὐτὰ [ταῦτα] | ταῦτα is omitted in nine MSS. 24. ἄλλως] Most of the MSS. give ἄλλος ; which if received would require 6 τά τε ὄντα The reading of the editions is preferable, as in- volving a slighter change. λέγων. ΠῚ ΣΟΦΙΣΤΗΣ. 97 Lara XN ᾽ vad > \ a ‘ ‘ 1241. 4H. Σχεδὸν οὐδαμῶς: ἀλλὰ ταῦτα ὁ σοφιστὴς He will > ΄ x» , \ a \ - 5 turn upon ov dye. ἢ τίς μηχανὴ συγχωρεῖν TWA TOV εὖ us and ask ἐφ (vA ΒΩ Ν + Ν yA how we φρονούντων, ὅταν ἀφθεγκτα Kai ἄρρητα καὶ ἄλογα dare, after \ 5 / ὃ λ ΄ 5 \ \ , what has Kal ἀδιανοητα προδιωμολογημένα ἢ TA TPO τούτων γώ said, τ , , 5 / ἃ wy 7 RY to utter ομολογηθέντα ; μανθάνομεν, ὦ Θεαίτητε, a *A€yet™ 5 5 the word a \ > , “ > , * Not- OEAI. Tas yap ov μανθάνομεν, ὅτι τἀναντία yy, / / « lol lod a / a / φήσει λέγειν ἡμᾶς τοῖς viv dn, Ψψευδὴ τολμήσαντας ’ a » ᾽ / \ / “ εἰπεῖν ὡς ἐστιν ἐν δόξαις τε καὶ κατὰ λόγους ; τῷ \ NRA Nipao\ 7 c a / yap μὴ ὄντι TO ὃν προσάπτειν ἡμᾶς πολλάκις ἀναγ- 1 6 ὃ Ν / a δὴ a 9 κάζεσθαι, διομολογησαμένους νῦν On που τοῦτο εἰναι το 7 3 / πάντων ἀδυνατώτατον. > an / a Χ ΞΕ. ᾿Ορθῶς ἀπεμνημοόνευσας, ἀλλ᾽ wpa δὴ βου- ’ , \ - lol a / Ἅ \ λευεσθαι τί χρὴ δρᾷν τοῦ σοφιστοῦ πέρι τὰς yap 5 7 \ > 72 +N > Χ an 5 va ἀντιλήψεις καὶ ἀπορίας, ἐὰν αὐτὸν διερευνῶμεν ἐν TH ports λέγει as the Bodleian reading. Unfortunately, this 2. ἢ τίς μηχανὴ He adopts the tone of the Sophist. 4. προδιωμολογημένα] “ When it has been previously granted (supr. 238 d) that the very terms of the admissions which have just been made are un- utterable,” &c. Cf. Tim. 78 a: προδιομολογησάμενοι. Bodl. ΔΗ, προσδιομολογημένα : whence (Ὁ. τ, Hermann gives πρὸς διωμο- λογημένα. But this reading is without point. Ta πρὸ τούτων ὁμολογηθέν- ta) Heindorf observes that Plato uses this periphrasis to avoid the repetition of μὴ ὄν. The words refer to the discus- sion (of the nature of a likeness) which precedes the mention of δόξα and λόγος, and which bris- tles with the forbidden expres- sions. P.240b. Compare Phileb. 5O C: τὰ νῦν πολλάκις λεγόμενα. 5. ἃ Ἐλέγει ] Bekker, judg- ing from Gaisford’s silence, re- MS. agrees with all the rest except Par. I’. in giving λέγεις. But the context leaves no room for doubting that λέγει is right. The Stranger has been speak- ing in the Sophist’s person. See φήσει in the next line, and compare the defence of Pro- tagoras in Theet. 166. For μανθάνομεν in the rst pers. plur., ef. supr. 223 e, and note, also Phileb. 51 d: ἀλλ᾽ ἄρα pavéa- νομεν, ἢ πῶς ; ΠΡ. πειρῶμαι μέν, ὦ Σώκρατες. 8. κατὰ λόγου] ‘This use of κατὰ confirms the correction κατὰ δικαστήρια in Theeet. 201 ἃ. 13. τί χρὴ δρᾷν] Cf. Legg. 6,777 ¢: διαπορήσειε τί χρὴ δρᾷν περὶ ἁπάντων τῶν τοιούτων. 14. ἀντιλήψεις) “Handles for objection.” Lit. ‘ Occasions for laying hold,” as in wrest- ling. Cf. supr. 239 d. And this is only the beginning of diffi- culties. Must we, then, give up in despair ? 98 MAATQNOZ τῶν ψΨευδουργῶν Kal γοήτων τέχνῃ τιθέντες. ὁρᾷς ὡς p. 241. |! εὔποροι καὶ πολλαί. ΘΕΑΙ. Καὶ μάλα. EE. Μικρὸν μέρος τοίνυν αὐτῶν διεληλύθαμεν, » “ [ὦ yy ἴω > 7 5 OUOWV WS €7TOS εἰπεῖν απτεράντων. ΘΕΑΙ. ᾿Αδύνατον γὰρ [ἄν], ὡς ἔοικεν, [εἴη] τὸν Χ « lod » lal -“ ,΄ σοφιστὴν ἐλεῖν, εἰ ταῦτα οὕτως EXEL. EE. Τί οὖν ; ἀποστησόμεθα νῦν μαλθακισθέντες ; ΘΕΑΙ. Οὔκουν ἔγωγέ φημι δεῖν, εἰ καὶ κατὰ ἊΝ ΟΝ 3 » , 5 7, 5 τοσμικρὸν οἷοί T ἐπιλαβέσθαι πῃ τἀνδρὸς ἐσμεν. d Ky / ΄ la) 5 HE. “E€es οὖν συγγνώμην καὶ καθάπερ νῦν εἶπες , 37 Ν Ν Χ ’ ἀγαπήσεις, ἐὰν πῇ καὶ κατὰ βραχυ παρασπασώμεθα ο fa) f οὕτως ἰσχυροῦ λόγου: 6. Ἀδύνατον γάρ] The Bod- leian has rap (sic), which sug- gests the possibility of a read- ing τἄρ᾽ ( -- τοι dpa). But yap is probably right. Cf Theeet. 100 6: οὔτε yap ταύτῃ οὔτε κατὰ τὰ πρότερα φαίνεται ψευδὴς ἐν Gorg. 454 4: Δῆλον yap αὖ ὅτι ov ταὐτόν And Aisch. Ag. 218 : ΠΠαυσανέμου yap θυσίας παρθενίου θ᾽ αἵματος ὀργῆ περιόργως ἐπιθυ- pew θέμις. Hur. Med. 573. [av]—[ety] ] The former word ism απ meine Cire ΤΠ by a later hand in =B, the latter in every MS. except =. Possibly Ἀδύνατον yap (or rap’), ὡς ἔοικ᾽, ἂν εἴη may be the true reading. 11. καθάπερ νῦν εἶπες] Viz. in Saying εἰ καὶ κατὰ σμικρόν κ. τ. Δ. 12. ἐάν πῃ καὶ] καὶ is pro- bably to be taken intensively with κατὰ βραχύ: cf. supr. 240 6: εἴπερ Ψεύσεταί ποτέ Tis τι καὶ κατὰ βραχύ. “If we ἡμῖν οὖσα δόξα. ἐστιν. should flinch a Little from the grasp of such a sturdy ar- gument.” The metaphor from wrestling is continued through- out. Cf. Phileb. 41 b: προσι- στώμεθα δὴ καθάπερ ἀθληταὶ πρὸς τοῦτον αὖ τὸν λόγον. παρασπασώμεθα] Lit. “ pull ourselves aside, draw aside ;” i. e. release ourselves from the contest. Cf. Soph. El. 732: ἔξω παρασπᾷ (sc. τοὺς ἵππους) κἀνακωχεύει. The middle voice is here directly reflexive, not as in Dem. Olynth. 1, 10: μὴ παρασπάσηταί TL τῶν ὅλων Tpay- μάτων. Compare the use of ἀποσπᾶσθαι in Xen. Anab. 1, 5. § 2: πολὺ yap ἀπεσπᾶτο φεύγουσα. Those, however, who prefer the latter meaning here (read- ing ἐάν πή τι, with Badh. conj.), may compare Theet. 196 d: τί εἰ ἐπιχειρήσαιμεν ἀναισχυντεῖν; For the personification, cf. ib. 148 ©: εἰ -- τοῦ ἀκμάζοντος καὶ ταχίστου ἡττήθης. Cc ΣΟΦΙΣΤῊΣ. 99 OEAI. Πῶς γὰρ οὐχ ἕξω ; A 3, a a EE. Tode τοίνυν ἔτι μᾶλλον παραιτοῦμαί σε. ΘΕΑΙ. Τὸ ποῖον ; EE. Μή με οἷον πατραλοίαν ὑπολάβης γίγνεσθαί τινα. ΘΕΑΙ. Τί δή; XN a Ν / / ΄σ HE. Tov τοῦ πατρὸς Παρμενίδου λόγον ἀναγκαῖον " lal / "7 / Ν ’ 7 ἡμῖν ἀμυνομένοις ἔσται βασανίζειν, καὶ βιάζεσθαι τό Δ ἊΝ ε "᾽, ΄ Ν SD 3 ΄ « > Uns μῇ OV ὡς EOTL KATH TL καὶ TO OV QU παλιν ως οὐκ x €OTL 77). ΘΕΑΙ. Φαίνεται τὸ τοιοῦτον διαμαχητέον ἐν Tots λόγοις. “ \ / ‘ / BE. Πῶς yap ov φαίνεται καί, τὸ λεγόμενον δὴ a a / \ ’ 5 72 / τοῦτο, τυφλῷ; τούτων yap pyre ἐλεγχθέντων μήτε 8. βιάζεσθαι---ὡς] “ΤῸ prove by main force that—.” The idea is not that of necessary demon- stration, but that of establishing something against appearances. Cf. infr. 246 b: νοητὰ ἄττα καὶ ἀσώματα εἴδη βιαζόμενοι τὴν ἀλη- θινὴν οὐσίαν εἶναι. Theet. 153 6: ἀναγκάζω----ὡς, Symp. 202 ἃ: μὴ τοίνυν ἀνάγκαζε, 6 μὴ καλόν ἐστιν αἰσχρὸν εἶναι. Cf. Lege. 8, 841 ἃ, where βιάζομαι is used of effecting something paradoxical and difficult in practice. II, ®aiverar —dédyous| The Bodl. MS., with A and pr. Π., om. διαμαχητέον, which C. F. Hermann accordingly rejects, with the remaining words, retaining only Φαίνεται. “ Languidum additamentum totum cireumscripsi.” But it may be retorted that, especi- ally considering the formal style of the dialogue, φαίνεται alone in this place is abrupt oO ΕΓ and bare. Cf. also διαμαχόμενοι, infr. 256 ἃ. 13. καὶ To be taken with τυφλῷ : the words τὸ λεγόμενον δὴ τοῦτο being thrust in between. Cf. supr. 218 a, καὶ, καθάπερ εἶπε Σωκράτης, πᾶσι x. ε. and note. See also Rep. 5, 465 4: Δῆλον, ἔφη, καὶ τυφλῷ. 14. ἐλεγχθέντων] The Bodl., with ΔΙ ΒῚ, has μήτε λεχθέντων, which is weak ; ἐλεγχθέντων is right. ‘“ Unless this refutation and this admission is secured.” Τ 6. unless the saying of Parmenides is refuted and the existence of the non-ex- istent admitted. Cf. infr. 242 Ὁ: τὸν ἔλεγχον τοῦτον καὶ τὴν ἀπόδειξιν. In Theet. 188 ἃ sqq. it is shewn to be impossible to think what is not, because all thought must have a real object. As Mr. Grote remarks, this and other negative arguments of the ° -- 5 I ο Not if we may be allowed, in self- defence, to bring the revered words of Parme- nides to the test, and to force the con- clusion, that there is a sense in which Not-Being is, and Being is not. Otherwise an art of phantastie, and, in- * deed, all imitation, is incon- ceivable. 100 ΠΛΑΤΏΝΟΣ « / ΄“ fel 7 Ν ὁμολογηθέντων σχολῇ ποτέ τις οἷός τε ἔσται περὶ p. 241. / a Ἂ 5, ΄ Yj λόγων ψευδῶν λέγων ἢ δόξης, εἴτε εἰδώλων εἴτε © " / 72) 7 / > a Δ εἰκόνων ELTE μιμημάτων εἴτε φαντασμάτων, αὐτῶν, ἢ Ν Ν “ “ 7 la ’ὔ’ AN καὶ περὶ τεχνῶν TOV ὅσαι περὶ ταῦτα εἰσι, μὴ κατα- λέγειν. ΘΕΑΙ. ᾿Αληθέστατα. \ A cal : EE. Διὰ ταῦτα μέντοι τολμητέον ἐπιτίθεσθαι τῷ ν. 242. aN 53 \ > / > , e “ syeAaoTos εἰνᾶν τὰ ἐναντια ἀναγκαζόμενος αὐτῷ lol 7 a ΩΝ Ν 4 Ε] vA ΄σ / πατρικῷ λόγῳ νῦν, ἢ TO παράπαν ἐατέον, εἰ τοῦτο τις 3 im yx τοεἴργει δρᾷν OKVOS. ΘΕΑΙ. ᾿Αλλ᾽ ἡμᾶς τοῦτό γε μηδὲν μηδαμῇ εἴρξη. aE ap 7 / yf ,ὔ / jemi He PlTOV τοινυν ETL GE σμικρὸν Tl TAPQlT 1) TOMA. OEAI. Λέγε μόνον. 3 a \ e Ν Ν ΞΕ. Εἰπὸν που νῦν δὴ λέγων ὡς πρὸς τὸν περὶ 7 > » ΕΣ 7) 3 \ ἈΝ 7 \ ‘ ταῦτ᾽ ἔλεγχον GEL TE ἀπειρηκὼς ἐγὼ τυγχάνω καὶ δὴ N \ an και TQ νυν. ΘΈΑΙ. Εἶπες. Theetetus are not directly re- futed in the Sophistes. It is rather the negative mode of arguing generally which is cri- ticized. 3. αὐτῶν, ἢ Kal περὶ τεχνῶν] “themselves, or the arts which relate to these.” αὐτῶν refers to all the preceding genitives. Cf. Rep. 3, 398 a: εἰ ἡμῖν ἀφί- κοιτο εἰς τὴν πόλιν αὐτός TE καὶ τὰ ποιήματα βουλόμενος ἐπιδεί- ξασθαι. The other rendering, according to which αὐτῶν refers to φαντασμάτων alone as the very subject-matter of the Sophist’s art, 15 not so good. 8. Διὰ ταῦτα μέντοι] “* Ob- vious as this truth is, it com- pels us—” τῷ πατρικῷ Ady@| λόγος 15 personified, as In τοῦ βασιλικοῦ λόγου supYr. 235 ¢, and πατρικὸς has the same force as in πατρι- kos ikos—“ The theory which is invested with the sacred- ness of our father’s autho- rity.” 9. τὸ παράπαν ἐατέον] τὸ παράπαν is probably adver- bial, and the object of ἐατέον must be supplied, 6. g. τὸν Adyov— We must give up en- tirely.” 11. τοῦτό ye] Se. ὥστε τὸ Cf. Polit. 268 ἃ: τοῦτο τοίνυν---ἡ μῖν ποιητέον, εἰ μὴ μέλλομεν ἐπὶ τῷ τέλει καταισχῦναι τὸν λόγον. Ν. Σ. ᾿Αλλὰ μὴν οὐδαμῶς τοῦτό γε δραστέον. , 25 παραπαν εαν. i 4 ! "242. ΣΟΦΙΣΤΗΣ. 101 FE. Φοβοῦμαι δὴ τὰ εἰρημένα, μή ποτε διὰ ταῦτά σοι μανικὸς εἶναι δόξω παρὰ πόδα μεταβαλὼν ἐμαυ- τὸν ἄνω καὶ κάτω. σὴν γὰρ δὴ χάριν ἐλέγχειν τὸν λόγον ἐπιθησόμεθα, ἐάνπερ ἐλέγχωμεν. ΘΕΑΙ. Ὡς τοίνυν ἔμοιγε μηδαμῇ δόξων μηδὲν 5 - Ἂ JEAN Χ A a \ \ » / πλημμελεῖν, av ἐπὶ τὸν ἔλεγχον τοῦτον καὶ τὴν ἀπο- δειξιν ἴης, θαρρῶν ἴθι τούτου γε ἕνεκα. / fd EN BE. Φέρε 67; τίνα ἀρχὴν tis ἂν ἄρξαιτο παρα- n 7 A \ \ ͵ > 3 a κινδυνευτικοῦ λογου; δοκῶ μὲν yap τήνδ᾽, ὦ παῖ, N « Ν » / - “ 3 / τὴν ὁδὸν ἀναγκαιοτατὴν ἡμῖν εἶναι τρέπεσθαι. ΘΕΑΙ. Ποίαν δή ; EE. Ta δοκοῦντα νῦν ἐναργῶς ἔχειν ἐπισκέψα- al / / \ 5) σθαι πρῶτον, μὴ πῃ τεταραγμένοι μὲν ὦμεν περὶ I. Φοβοῦμαι)7 “I tremble, then, to think of what I have said, lest you should pronounce me wild.” For ἀεί re δὴ inter- posed, cf. Rep. 2, 367 6: Kai ἐγὼ ἀκούσας, det μὲν δὴ τὴν φύσιν τοῦ Γλαύκωνος καὶ τοῦ Ἀδειμάντου ἠγάμην, arap οὖν καὶ τότε πάνυ γε ἥσθην : and for the meaning, compare supr. 242 Ὁ: καὶ γὰρ πάλαι καὶ τὰ νῦν ἡττημένον ἂν εὕροι. Theset. 187 c. 2. mapa πόδα] “ At the first step ; “ateach step ;” “at every other step.” The expression is used of persons in motion, as πὰρ ποδὶ, in Pindar, of persons at rest. Thus Soph. Phil. 838 : πολὺ παρὰ πόδα κράτος ἄρνυται. In the present passage παρὰ seems to have the additional meaning of alternation, as in παρ᾽ ἡμέραν. μεταβαλὼν] The tense cor- responds to that of δόξω, otherwise μεταβάλλων would have seemed more natural, especially with ἄνω καὶ κάτω. Cf. Pheed. 96 b: πολλάκις ἐμαυ- τὸν ἄνω κάτω μετέβαλλον. But in the present case sonly one change “to and fro” is spoken of. 3. σὴν yap δὴ χάριν] Com- pare the language of Socrates in the fifth book of the Re- public, before advancing his theory of communism, 450 e. See also ib. 473 6. Such ex- pressions of reluctance perhaps receive some light from the passages in the Epistles, if genuine, where it is said that the philosopher will not choose to fix his thought in writing. 10. ἀναγκαιοτάτην--- τρέπεσθαι] For the inf. after ἀναγκαῖος, ef. Gorg. 449 b. μάλιστα ἀναγκαῖον. ἀναγκαιοτάτην = Cf. Phileb. 63 Ὁ : οἶμαι μὲν πρὸς ταῦτα τόδ᾽ αὐτὰς ἀναγκαιότατον εἶναι λέγειν. 13. μή πῃ τεταραγμένοι] “ Lest we should have fallen into some confusion in regard to these With this view it will be necessary °to examine some ideas which are thought to be clear, but may prove to be confused. A. Parme- nides and 102 ταῦτα, ῥᾳδίως δ᾽ ἀλλήλοις ὁμολογῶμεν ὡς εὐκρινῶς P. 243.}} Μ EXOVTES. ITAATQNOS OEAI. Λέγε σαφέστερον ὃ λέγεις. EE. Ἑυὐκόλως μοι δοκεῖ Παρμενίδης ἡμῖν διειλέχ- things, while glibly interchang- ing arguments, as if we were quite clear on the subject.” 4. Evxddos| “Complacently ;” “with easy confidence ;” “ with good-humoured composure ;” “in an easy-tempered way.” Cf. Theet. 166 a: ὦ ῥᾳθυμότατε Σώκρατες. Εὐκόλως ---- διειλέχθαι]. Plato means what Aristotle expresses where he says that Dialectic had no place in early philo- sophy. οἱ yap πρότεροι διαλεκτι- κῆς οὐ μετεῖχον. Ar. Met. A. 6. 987 b. Compare the lan- guage of an article in Fraser’s Magazine for February 1865 : “In older theology there seems (of course with brilliant ex- ceptions) to have prevailed this general defect —that endless controversies, and defences, and attacks, have gone round and round these sacred terms without even asking what they mean.” The question of Not- Being is relative to that of Being: hence, in order to solve the difficulties which have arisen, it 1s necessary to examine this, the most familiar and fundamental of all ideas. This is done historically, through a criticism of the re- sults of previous and contem- porary thought, involving the unwelcome task of putting the words of Parmenides to the torture. The conjecture of Badham, οὐχ ὅλως = ὅλως οὐ, for εὐκόλως, is not convincing. Cf. Lege. 11, 922 6 : Μαλθακοὶ ἔμοιγ᾽, ὦ Κλεινία, δοκοῦσιν οἱ πάλαι νομοθετοῦντες γεγονέναι καὶ ἐπὶ σμικρὸν τῶν ἀνθρωπίνων βλέ- ποντές τε καὶ διανοούμενοι vopo- θετεῖν. “J think that Parmenides, and all who have hitherto arisen to determine the ulti- mate number and nature of existences, have shewn in their conversation with us a sort of easy, good-humoured compo- sure.” “In what way ?” “They seem to me to treat us like children, and to tell us stories, each one for himself; one relating that there are Beings three, which sometimes maintain a desultory warfare, but sometimes they make peace again, and marry, and bring forth children and rear them ; another speaks of Two, as Moist and Dry, or Hot and Cold, which he brings together and consorts in marriage. But the tribe of the Eleatics from our quarter, beginning with Xeno- phanes, or even earlier, are the authors of a different tale, and fable that what we call ‘all things’ are One Being. Then certain Muses of Jonia, and others of later birth in Sicily, in taking up the parable have seen that it is safer to combine both histories and to say that Being is Many and also One, held together by hate and love. For, say the Muses of firmer ZOPISTHS. 103 Ν tan yy > / “ ΄- Ν η. 2452.θαι καὶ πᾶς ὄστις πώποτε ἐπὶ κρίσιν ὠὡρμὴῆσε του TA y+ / / Ν “8 ὄντα διορίσασθαι πόσα TE καὶ ποῖά ἐστιν. ΘΕΑΙ. Πῃ; EE. Modov τινα ἕκαστος φαίνεταί μοι διηγεῖσθαι Ν 53 Ch im c \ 7 Sof. a παισὶν ὡς οὖσιν μιν, O μεν ὡς τρία τὰ OVTA, πολεμεῖ 5 tone, Being is ever sundered, ever combined: while those, who prefer a softer melody, relax the ‘ever, and say that All is sometimes one and friendly by Aphrodite’s power, but sometimes many and at enmity with itself by reason of a certain principle of strife.” 1. ἐπὶ κρίσιν---τοῦ---διορίσα- σθαι) Hither “went forth to decide the question of deter- mining’’—where the pleonasm, though somewhat harsh, is not inconsistent with the style of these dialogues. For κρίσιν in this sense, cf. Euthyphr. 7d: ἐπί Twa κρίσιν ov δυνάμενοι ἀφι- κέσθαι----ἐπὶ ἱκανὴν κρίσιν αὐτῶν ἐλθεῖν. Or, ‘ entered the arena to contend for the honour of determining.” Cf. Legg. 12, 943 ἃ: εἰς τὴν τῶν ἀριστείων κρίσιν. Soph. Trach. 266: πρὸς τόξου kpiow. Philoct. τορο: ὅπου δικαίων κἀγαθῶν ἀνδρῶν κρίσις. According to the latter rendering, Parmenides and the rest are supposed to bring their theories for judgment be- fore the reason of mankind. 2. πόσα τε καὶ mota| Some interpreters suppose that πόσα refers to the earlier and ποῖα only to the later theories. (infr. 245 e, sqq.) But although the former asked “ Is Being One or how many,’ and the latter, “ Is Being corporeal or ideal,” this distinction is probably not in- tended by these words. And the question of ποιότης is already involved in theories of hot and cold, moist and dry, harmony or discord, and the like. 4. Μῦθόν twa — διηγεῖσθαι] Compare Bacon, Noy. Org. I. Ax. 44: “Quot philosophiz receptz aut inventz sunt, tot fabulas productas et actas cen- semus, que mundos efficerent fictitios et scenicos.” Ib. Ax. 62: “Atque hujusmodi theatri fabulee habent etiam illud quod in theatro poetarum usu venit ; ut narrationes fictee ad scenam narrationibus ex historia veris concinniores sint et elegan- tiores, et quales quis magis vellet.” Ar. Met. I. το, 993 a: ψελλιζομένῃ yap ἔοικεν ἡ πρώτη φιλοσοφία περὶ πάντων. 5. παισὶν ὡς οὖσν] The position of παισὶν is emphatic. Cf. Legg. 1, 645 Ὁ: των ὡς ὄντων ἡμῶν. Rep. 8,545 €: ὡς πρὸς παῖδας ἡμᾶς. Infr. 254 6: οὐ περὶ τριῶν ὡς ὄντων Ν , περὶ Gavpa- αὐτῶν. ὁ μὲν ὡς tpia—exdidwou | The few remaining fragments of the earliest philosophy do not enable us to say what thinkers are thus briefly indi- cated : probably some belong- ing to the earlier Ionic school. The metaphorical language seems to point to a_pe- riod when philosophy still re- tained a considerable tinge of others who have sought to define the number and nature of exist- ence, have not been careful to explain their meaning, but after throwing out that Being is three or two or one, or one and many, hot and cold, at peace or war, or that it is first united 104 \ ᾽ / Tr, ’ ΄ yA \ \ Ν / de ἀλλήλοις ἐνίοτε αὐτῶν ἄττα my, τοτὲ δὲ καὶ φίλα p. 242, ΠΛΑΤΩΝΟΣ / / / \ ΄- γιγνόμενα γάμους τε καὶ τόκους καὶ τροφὰς τῶν ἃ > / / / Wigs > 4 « Ν Ν ἐκγόνων παρέχεται. Ovo δὲ ἕτερος εἰπῶν, ὑγρὸν καὶ Ν » Ν Ν / / + ay") Ν ξηρὸν ἢ θερμὸν καὶ ψυχρόν, συνοικίζει τε αὐτὰ καὶ δἐκδίδωσι. τὸ δὲ παρ᾽ ἡμῶν ᾿Ελεατικὸν ἔθνος, ἀπὸ — ‘ Ν 5) / > ath, « ἐξενοφανους τε καὶ ert πρόσθεν ἀρξάμενον, ὡς CAIN 37 a ἤ / “ " EVOS OVTOS τῶν πάντων καλουμένων οὕτω διεξέρχεται nr / τοῖς μύθοις. cosmogonical mythology. Thus Pherecydes might be said to have asserted three principles, Zeus, Time, and Earth, as the basis of his cosmogony. The dualists here mentioned have been supposed to include Arche- laus, who, according to Diog. Laert. 11. τό, 17, ἔλεγε δύο αἰτίας εἶναι γενέσεως, θερμὸν καὶ ψυχρόν, and who, in describing the production of the animals, says that they sprang from the increasing warmth in the lower parts of the Earth, ὅπου τὸ θερμὸν καὶ τὸ ψυχρὸν ἐμίσγετο. But, as Steinhart observes, (So- phist. note 22,) the dualism of heat and cold is a theory of the Universe probably older than Parmenides, who speaks of this as the philosophy of opinion. There is of course no allusion to Parmenides in these words. He is included in the ᾿Ελεατικὸν ἔθνος mentioned immediately afterwards. 2. γάμους----παρέχεται] “ Are found to marry,” We. 5. τὸ δὲ map ἡμῶν] 1. 6. ἐξ ᾿Ἐλέας. Heindorf and Stall- baum prefer ἡμῖν, which appears in C. H. 3, a. Ὁ. c., and in the quotations of Eusebius and Theodoret. But ἡμῶν is pre- ᾿Ιάδες δὲ καὶ Σικελαί τινες ὕστερον ferable both as the reading of the best MSS. and as the less obvious reading: “The school that came forth from us.” ἀπὸ Ξενοφάνους τε καὶ ἔτι πρόσθεν ἀρξάμενον] ‘ From Xe- nophanes downwards, and even before Xenophanes.” This is conceived in the same spirit as the attempt in the Theztetus to refer the Heraclitean dogma to an unknown antiquity. Theet. 179 6: περὶ τούτων τῶν ἩΗρακλειτείων, ἢ ὥσπερ σὺ λέγεις Ὃμηρείων, καὶ ἔτι παλαιοτέρων. Steinhart imagines a reference tothe Pseudo-Orphic Fragment, Ζεὺς ἀρχὴ, Ζεὺς μέσσα, Διὸς δ᾽ ἐκ πάντα τελεῖται, which is elsewhere quoted by Plato, Legg. 4, 715 e. 7. ἑνὸς ὄντος τῶν πάντων] The participle, although agree- ing in sense with πάντων, follows the number of the preceding word. Cf. Protag. 329 d: ἑνὸς ὄντος τῆς ἀρετῆς. 8. τοῖς μύθοις] “ In their tale of the Universe ;” referring to μῦθόν τινα supr. Cf. Theet. 156: οὗτος ὁ μῦθος--- viz. the theory of Sensation. "Iddes—Movoa] The word ὕστερον applies to the Σικελαί as compared with the ᾿Ιάδες μοῦσαι. Empedocles was later than ΣΟΦΙΣΤΗΣ. 105 “a / “ / > ’ὔ . 242. Μοῦσαι ξυννενοήκασιν ὅτι συμπλέκειν ἀσφαλέστατον » / \ / « \ oN / Ge 3 e ἀμφότερα καὶ λέγειν ὡς τὸ ὃν πολλὰ TE καὶ EV ἐστιν, Ya \ 7 / \ > ἐχθρᾳ δὲ καὶ φιλίᾳ συνέχεται’ διαφερόμενον yap ἀεὶ / \ e / lal M oan © ξυμφέρεται, φασὶν αι συντονώτεραι TMV ουσῶν" αἱ Heraclitus, and his speculation is viewed by Plato as that of Heraclitus in aless exact form. See the speech of Eryximachus in the Symposium, who treats of Love in the spirit of Empe- docles (187 a,b): τὸ ἕν φησιν (Ἡράκλειτος) διαφερόμενον αὐτὸ αὑτῷ ξυμφέρεσθαι, ὥσπερ ἁρμονίαν τόξου τε καὶ λύρας. ἔστι δὲ πολλὴ ἀλογία ἁρμονίαν φάναι διαφέρε- σθαι ἢ ἐκ διαφερομένων ἔτι εἶναι. ἀλλ᾽ ἴσως τόδε ἐβούλετο λέγειν, ὅτι ἐκ διαφερομένων πρότερον τοῦ ὀξέος καὶ βαρέος, ἔπειτα ὕστερον ὁμολογησάντων γέγονεν ὑπὸ τῆς μουσικῆς τέχνης. The words πολλὴ ἀλογία in this extract are a good comment on ἀσφαλέστα- τον in the text. 1. ξυνενόησαν͵] I. 6. In re- flecting on both statements perceived. Cf. Soph. Cid. Col. 452: τοῦτ᾽ ey@da, τῆσδέ τε μαντεῖ᾽ ἀκούων ξυννοῶν τε τάἀξ ἐμοῦ παλαίφαθ' ἁμοὶ Φοῖβος ἤνυ- σέν ποτε. ἀσφαλέστατον] “ The most irrefragable position.” Cf. supr. 231 a: τὸν ἀσφαλῆ. Protag. 351 d, Polit. 262 b. 3. Stadepspevov—ouph.) Se. τὸ ὃν ἢ τὸ πᾶν. Cf. Symp. 1. ce. 4. συντονώτεραι ---- μαλακώτε- pa] These are musical terms, as Boeckh has shewn in his contribution to Heindorf’s note upon this passage: ‘“ Desumpta vocabula συντ. et par. a colore Ss. χρόᾳ in musicis generibus. Etenim ex sex illis coloribus unus in enharmonico, duo in diatonico, tres in chromatico genere sunt. In chromate est color ἡμιόλιος, color tovaios et μαλακὸς, ς. ἡμιόλιον χρῶμα, τονι- aiov ς. σύντονον χρῶμα et χρῶμα μαλακόν. In diatono duo colores sunt διάτονον σύντονον et διάτονον μαλακόν. Illa σύντονα sunt in- tentiora, μαλακὰ molliora. Eu- clid. Introd, Harmon. p. ro, rr. Aristox. Harm. Elem. I. p. 24 sqq. Gaudent. Harmon. Intr. p-17: “ Notandum autem illud ἐχάλασαν, quod est in musicis in μαλακῇ χρόᾳ." Eucel. p. 11 : μαλακὸν δὲ Tov ἐλαχίστου πυκνοῦ ὡσαύτως καὶ χρῶμα, ἐπειδὴ τὸ ἐν αὐτῷ πυκνὸν χρῶμα ἀνίεται τε καὶ ἐκλύεται.᾽ Cf. also Rep. 3, 398 €: Τίνες οὖν padaxal—rov ap- μονιῶν. "laoti, 7 δὲ ὃς, Καὶ λυδιστί, αἵτινες χαλαραὶ καλοῦν- ται, where the “soft Lydian airs” are spoken of with a metaphorical meaning. The point here is that the union of one and many was more thorough in Heraclitus than in Empedocles. A similar appli- cation of these musical ex- pressions is made by Aristotle, Polit. IV. 3, in drawing a ~ parallel between music and government, in both of which he says the ordinary kinds are divergences from the one or two best: παρεκβάσεις, τὰς μὲν τῆς εὖ κεκραμένης ἁρμονίας, τὰς δὲ τῆς ἀρίστης πολιτείας, ὀλιγαρ- χικὰς μὲν τὰς συντονωτέρας καὶ δεσποτικωτέρας, τὰς δ᾽ ἀνειμένας καὶ μαλακὰς δημοτικάς, by love and then severed by hate, have gone each of them his own way. 106 MAATOQNO® \ / Ν \ > ΄ , o ~ » / δὲ μαλακώτεραι TO μὲν ἀεὶ ταῦθ᾽ οὕτως ἔχειν ἐχαλα- ᾽ / \ \ ἡ 5 ‘ x a) Ν σαν, ἐν μέρει δὲ τοτὲ μὲν ἕν εἶναί φασι TO πᾶν καὶ ͵ Cts / \ \ Ν / φίλον ὑπ᾽ ᾿Αφροδίτης, τοτὲ δὲ πολλὰ καὶ πολέμιον Ya « tal \ Aout ca) \ / Ν αὐτὸ αὑτῷ διὰ νεῖκος τι. ταῦτα δὲ πάντα εἰ μὲν > “ * \ / 7 / Ν 5 ἀληθῶς τις ἢ μὴ τούτων εἴρηκε, χάλεπον, καὶ πλημ- \ eA / - Ν “-“ > / μελες οὕτω μεγάλα κλεινοῖς καὶ παλαιοῖς ἀνδράσιν ’ ay ς > “ \ / ce Te ἐπιτιμᾷν" ἐκεῖνο δὲ ἀνεπίφθονον ἀποφήνασθαι. ἊΝ cal OEAI. To ποῖον ; — σ“ / an a al td / EE. Ὅτι λίαν τῶν πολλῶν ἡμῶν ὑπεριδόντες > 7 a 5 \ \ / 3/23) > το ὠλιγώρησαν" οὐδὲν yap φροντίσαντες εἴτ᾽ ἐπακολου- an > ΄- ,ὔ / / / θοῦμεν αὐτοῖς λέγουσιν εἴτε ἀπολειπόμεθα, περαίνουσι \ 7 3 ἴω aS TO σφέτερον αὐτῶν ἕκαστοι. ΘΕΑΙ. Πῶς λέγεις ; For when EE. Ὅταν τις αὐτῶν φθέγξηται λέγων ws ἐστιν they say N ΄, ἮΝ , ον δι , . \ “Many,” 15 γέγονεν ἢ γίγνεται πολλὰ ἢ ἕν ἢ δύο, Kat θερμὸν One,” 5 A , pw Al ὃ : Two," αὖ ψυχρῷ συγκεραννύμενον, ἀλλοθὶ πῃ διακρίσεις 5. χαλεπὸν] Se. εἰπεῖν, which is absorbed in what follows. καὶ πλημμελὲς — ἐπιτιμᾷν | Compare the structure οὗ Theet. 146 b: ᾧ ἀπιστεῖν, ὡς ἐγὼ οἶμαι, οὔτε σὺ ἐθελήσεις, οὔτε θέμις περὶ τὰ τοιαῦτα ἀνδρὶ σοφῷ ἐπιτάττοντι νεώτερον ἀπειθεῖν. 6. οὕτω μεγάλα] Cogn. Acc. Se. τὸ μὴ ἀληθῶς ταῦτα εἰρηκέναι. “To make such grave accu- sationus against men of ancient renown.” Heind. well compares Legg. 10, 886 ὁ: εἰ μὲν eis ἀλ- ho τι καλῶς ἢ μὴ καλῶς ἔχει, οὐ ῥάδιον ἐπιτιμᾷν παλαιοῖς οὖσιν. 4. ἐκεῖνο], “ That former thing,” viz. what was implied IN εὐκόλως K.T.A. g. ὑπεριδόντες] “ Looking over our heads.” This was the error which Dialectic, or the Socratic dialogue, was calculated to re- medy. Cf. Phedr. 275 d, e. 14. Ὅταν τις αὐτῶν φθέγξηται “When one of them utters his saying, ‘Many, one, two, are, have been born, are created,’ or speaks of heat interpenetrat- ing with cold, while he else- where postulates separations and combinations, I pray you, Theztetus, do you at all then understand their meaning?” Note the redundant participle, as in ἔφη λέγων. ὡς — trotibeis] There is an emphasis on each of the words ἔστιν, γέγονε, γίγνεται, πολλά, ἕν, δύο, θερμόν, ψυχρῷ, διακρίσεις, συγκρίσεις. 16. ἄλλοθί wy] Hither, “in some other part of his treatise,” or “as taking place in some other region.” For θερμ. Ψ. ovyk., ef. Archelaus ap. Hippol. Pp» 242.90. Ρ. 243 fod) ΣΟΦΙΣΊΤΗΣ. 107 Ν / « / 3 / « / 243. καὶ συγκρίσεις ὑποτιθείς, τούτων, ὦ Θεαίτητε, ἑκα- ͵ \ a a “ / 41. τὰ OTOTE σὺ TL 7 pos θεῶν ξυνιεῖς oO TL λέγουσιν ; έγω \ Δ Ὁ ν᾿ ἢ 7, τ ἢ \ a ’ μὲν yap OTE μὲν ἢν νεώτερος, τοῦτο τε TO νῦν ἀπο- 7 « / 7 \ A wy 3 ἴω 7 ρούμενον ὅποτε τις εἴποι, TO μὴ OV, ἀκριβῶς ῳ μὴν ξυνιέναι" ἀπορίας. ΘΕΑΙ. Ὁρῶ. A \ Ο ΤῊΣ vo? » \ ᾽ a / a νῦν δὲ ὁρᾷς ἵν ἐσμέν αὐτοῦ πέρι τῆς 5 ἘΠῚ Ta / "} » Ὁ Ν Ni δῇ bey He aKa TOLVVY LOWS Οὐχ TTOV KATH TO OV > N a , > , 3 cal “ Ν \ ταῦτον τοῦτο πάθος εἰληφότες ἐν TH ψυχῇ περὶ μεν a > a \ / « {/ SN τοῦτο εὐπορεῖν φαμεν καὶ μανθάνειν ὁπόταν τις αὐτὸ φθέγξηται, περὶ δὲ θάτερον οὔ, πρὸς ἀμφότερα « / 3, ὁμοίως ἔχοντες. OEAI. Ἴσως. a 4 \ A HE. Kai περὶ τῶν ἄλλων δὴ τῶν προειρημένων (4S Stes NS a Siu ἘΚ new ταυτὸν τοῦτο εἰρησθω. OEAI. Ilavv γε. a \ [4 Ξ / \ a ΚΞ Εἰ. Τῶν μὲν τοίνυν πολλῶν πέρι καὶ μετὰ τοῦτο σκεψόμεθ᾽, ἂν δόξῃ, περὶ δὲ τοῦ μεγίστου τε καὶ Ε] la ’ὔ cal / ἀρχήγου TPMTOV VUY σκεπτεον. Ref. Her. I. 9: θερμαινομένης τῆς γῆς πρῶτων ἐν TO κάτω μέρει, ὅπου τὸ θερμὸν καὶ τὸ ψυχρὸν ἐμίσγετο. I. τούτων] Neut. 3. τοῦτό fret] τε is with- out correlative: whence Herm. conj. ye, which has no meaning, Par. H. cov: τότε, which cannot be right, but suggests the con]. τότε ye. But, as the Bodleian MS. omits τό, it seems most likely that τὸ was first corrupted into τε, and then again inserted. Hence τε is to be omitted. Otherwise we must suppose that the apodosis is absorbed in the words τάχα τοίνυν ἴσως Ῥ οὐχ ἧττον κατὰ τὸ ὄν κιτιλ. For which, οἵ. Pheedr. 265 d: εἰς μίαν τε ἰδέαν συνορῶντα ἄγειν K.T.X. 5. ἵνα---τῆς ἀπορίας] “ What a point we have reached in the perplexity about Not-Being.” The article is used because the difficulty attaching to the no- tion of μὴ ὃν is by this time familiar. 14. τῶν ἄλλων τῶν προειρημέ- νων] γεγονός, γένεσις, πολλά, ἕν, δύο, θερμόν, ψυχρόν, διακρίσεις, συγκρίσεις. 18. τοῦ μεγίστου καὶ ἀρχηγοῦ] “The mightiest and chiefest.” Being is spoken of with pro- found reverence, as in Rep. 6, le) 22 mixture of heat and cold,” * are, ‘have been produced,” “come into being,” or when they speak of the com- position and divi- sion of elements, do we understand them ? , 10 Not-Being may have once ap- peared an intelligible phrase, but see where it has brought us now. 15 Let us therefore turn and examine the most cardinal of all ideas, that of Being, in the light of existing theories. We first interrogate the philo- sophers who hold that ALL is resolvable into two ultimate existences. When they say that these two exist, what do they mean ? Do they postulate existence as a third element, or identify it with one 108 BEAL. Tivos δὴ λέγεις ; ἢ δῆλον ὅτι TO ὃν φὴς p. 243 ΠΛΆΤΩΝΟΣ a a / 7 > ΄ , 2 a πρῶτον δεῖν διερευνήσασθαι, τί ποθ᾽ οἱ λέγοντες αὑτὸ δηλοῦν ἡγοῦνται ; EE. Κατὰ πόδα γε, ὦ Θεαίτητε, ὑπέλαβες. λέγω ἊΝ \ / “ rn Ἁ ΄ ΄ ΄“ - syap δὴ ταύτῃ δεῖν ποιεῖσθαι τὴν μέθοδον ἡμᾶς, οἷον > a > / © , « / αὐτῶν παρόντων ἀναπυνθανομένους we’ Φέρε, ὅπο- ‘\ \ \ " ΄ ΄ \ Pees σοι θερμὸν καὶ ψυχρὸν ἤ τινε δύο τοιούτω τὰ πᾶντ 53 / al - / εἰναί φατε, τί ποτε ἄρα τοῦτ᾽ ἐπ᾿ ἀμφοῖν φθέγγεσθε, Ψ y Ν ei, 53 / Ν 5“ λέγοντες ἄμφω καὶ εκατερον εἰναι; TL TO εἰναι a ε ΄ὔ ε a , / ‘\ Ν ιοτοῦτο ὑπολάβωμεν ὑμῶν ; πότερον τρίτον παρα TA 7, Vea nN 7 \ m= ᾽ \ \ , “7 > Ovo ἐκεῖνα, Kal τρία TO πᾶν, ἀλλὰ μὴ Ovo ἔτι καθ « Cal a 5 / a ἴω a ὑμᾶς τιθῶμεν 3 οὐ yap που τοῖν ye δυοῖν καλοῦντες / Ἂ > ΄ - / Φ / a ‘ θάτερον ov ἀμφότερα ὁμοίως εἶναι λέγετε: σχεδὸν Χ Ἃ > o > > , 5 γὰρ ἂν ἀμφοτέρως ἕν, ἀλλ᾽ οὐ δύο εἴτην. 15 OEAT. ᾿Αληθῆ λέγεις. 509 b, ο: οὐκ οὐσίας ὄντος τοῦ ἀγαθοῦ, ἀλλ᾽ ἔτι ἐπέκεινα τῆς οὐ- σίας πρεσβείᾳ καὶ δυνάμει ὑπερέ- χοντος. 1. Tivos δὴ λέγεις] “ Sie sem- per in responsione negligitur preegressa prepositio.” Heind. —Cf. Rep. 7, 531 d: τοῦ mpoo- μίου----ἢ Tivos λέγεις ; . 4. Κατὰ πόδα (se. ἑπόμενος) | “At the heels.” “ Following my footsteps closely.” (Cf. Soph. Cid. Col. 197: ἐν---βάσει βάσιν ἅρμοσαι.) The plural κατὰ πόδας 1s the more usual form ; but the sing. occurs again Legg. 11, 918 a: κιβδήλοις δ᾽ ἐπιτηδεύμασιν ἕπεται κατὰ πόδα καπηλείας ἐπιτηδεύματα. 6. αὐτῶ] Probably em- phatic, ‘as if the men them- ee were personally present 1ere.” ΤΙ. μὴ δύο ἔτι καθ᾽ ὑμᾶς] “And no longer two according to your theory.” I. 6. either, “ must we give up your theory and make three principles in- stead of two?’ or, “must we understand you to assert three principles instead of two?” The former way of taking the words is more pointed, but the latter is in better keeping with the context, 14. ἀμφοτέρως] “Both ways.” 1.6. either, “as Being is identi- fied with one only, and as the one term Being is predicated of both alike” (the latter part of this argument loses force when the nature of predication is clearly understood), or, perhaps better, ἀμφοτέρως = “ Whichever of the two is identified with Being.” e , 243. 244. ΣΟΦΙΣΤΗΣ. EE. ᾿Αλλ' ἄρα τὰ ἄμφω βούλεσθε καλεῖν ov ; ΘΕΑΙ. Ἴσως. > 5 ; f EE. ᾿Αλλ᾽, ὦ φίλοι, φήσομεν, κἂν οὕτω τὰ δύο / Ἂ / o λέγοιτο av σαφέστατα ἕν. ΘΕΑΙ. ᾿Ορθότατα εἴρηκας. 5 a 3 \ 7 « a > , ε ᾿Ξ aes Bi. “Exedy τοίνυν ἡμεῖς ἡπορήκαμεν, ὑμεῖς αὐτὰ e tal 3 / « a , / / ἡμῖν ἐμφανίζετε ἱκανῶς, TL ποτε βούλεσθε σημαίνειν Ἃ “- € ς a fal ὁπόταν ov φθέγγησθε. δῆλον yap ὡς ὑμεῖς μὲν ταῦτα 109 of the two, which is tanta- mount to resolving all into one? or do they give to both the one name of Being, so making both one ? ’ 7 Ἔ lod \ \ ΄- \ wily a πάλαι γιγνώσκετε, ἡμεῖς δὲ πρὸ τοῦ μεν φομεθα, νῦν > > / / 5 a ~ 3 Sp δ᾽ ἡπορήκαμεν. διδάσκετε οὖν πρῶτον TOUT αὐτὸ 10 ἡμᾶς, ἵνα μὴ δοξάζωμεν μανθάνειν μὲν τὰ λεγόμενα 3 . an \ \ ,ὔ , a » / TAP ὑμῶν. TO δὲ TOUVUTOV γιγνῆται πᾶν τουνᾶντιον. “ Χ ? / GQ © a ΄ , Tatra dn λέγοντές τε καὶ ἀξιοῦντες παρὰ τε τουτων XN Χ a yy “ ω ΕΝ / NY καὶ mapa τῶν ἄλλων, ὅσοι πλεῖον evos λέγουσι TO κω 53 na 3 “ ’ πᾶν εἰναι, μῶν, ὦ παῖ, τι πλημμελήησομεν ; ΘΕΑΙ. “Hora γε. μεσταὶ / ,ὔ A lal A Ν a , 9 3: 5 GE. Ti δέ; παρὰ τῶν ev τὸ πᾶν λεγόντων ap οὐ The same arguments 15 will apply to all who hold a plu- rality of natures. , ᾽ , , , Ny TTEVOTEOY ELS δυναμιν Tl ΤΟΤΕ λέγουσι TO OV 5 ΘΕΑΙ. Πῶς yap οὔ; BE. Τόδε τοίνυν ἀποκρινέσθωσαν. τ. ᾿Αλλ᾽ ἄρα] Stallb.and Herm. give ἄρα. Cf. Rep. 2, 374 Ὁ. “But perhaps you mean to give the name to both toge- ther?” The Bodl. MS. gives dpa invariably, and is there- fore of no use in deciding be- tween dpa and dpa. 6. αὐτὰ] This is the same vague use of the neuter of αὐτὸς which is common in Thucydides. Cf. ταῦτα infr. 1. 8. 9. φόμεθα] Se. Cf. supr. 233 b: εἰ μήτε ἀντέ- Neyo ὀρθῶς μήτε ἐκείνοις ἐφαί- ΨΟΡΤΟ. γιγνώσκειν. Then Jet , those who a Ep TOU 20 assert One 11. δοξάζωμεν μανθάνειν μέν] μὲν belongs to the two preced- ing words taken as one. Cf. Theet. 151 Ὁ: μὴ δόξωσί πως. 12. τὸ δέ] “Whereas really.” Cf. Theet. 157 Ὁ: τὸ δ᾽ οὐ δεῖ, and note. 18. εἰς δύναμιν] 1.6. “So far as is possible when they are not present.” Cf. Thezt.184 a. 20. Tdde — ἀποκρινέσθωσαν | “Let them give an answer to the following question.” Cf. Legg. 10, 901 ὁ: Nov δὴ δύ᾽ ὄντες τρίσιν ἡμῖν οὖσιν ἀποκρι- νάσθωσαν. Being tell us what they mean. Are Being and Unity two names for the same thing ? Tt will puzzle them to answer this, or in- deed any question. For how can there be two names, or a name at all, when there is nothing beside the One Being? Unless the 1το 110 ΠΛΑΤΩΝΟΣ φατε μονον εἰναι ; γάρ: ΘΕΑ,ΑΙ. Ναί Φαμὲν γάρ, φήσουσιν. mE. Τί δέ; ὃν καλεῖτέ τι; ΘΕΑΙ. Ναί. σι ΞῊ I] / “ vA aw ‘al > a ᾽ὔ ᾿ bey Lid OTEPOV OTTEP EV, ETL TO αὐτῷ προσχρώμενοι ο κ᾿ 3 / “Δ lad δυοῖν ὀνόμασιν, ἢ πῶς: ΘΕΑΙ. Tis οὖν αὐτοῖς ἡ μετὰ τοῦτ᾽, ὦ ἕξένε, > / αποκρισις 5 "»-- a 3 / “ lal 7 \ ΞΕ. Δῆλον, ὦ Θεαίτητε, ὅτι τῷ ταύτην THY « 50 « 6 γι \ ον las > θ / ‘ Ν ὑποῦεσιν UTTO εμένῳ 7 pos TO νυν EPWTNUEV, Και 7 pos y \ ¢ a » ΄ en > / ἄλλο δὲ ὁτιοῦν, οὐ πάντων ῥᾷστον ἀποκρίνασθαι. GEAL,. Πώς: / « ΄σ Ss =ZE. To τε δύο ὀνόματα ὁμολογεῖν εἶναι, μηδὲν ΘΕΑΙ. Ilas δ᾽ ov; / Ν “ , 15 θέμενον πλὴν ἐν, καταγελαστον που. EE. Καὶ τὸ παράπαν γε ἀποδέχεσθαι τοῦ λέγον- ε yy + 4 , > 3 27 TOS MS ἐστιν ονομᾶ Tl, Aoyov OUK QV EXov. 6. ὅπερ ev] Cf. the Aristo- telian use of ὅπερ, e.g. Phys. Αὐθο. 1. 2. II. καὶ πρὸς ἄλλο δὲ ὁτιοῦν] “Απᾷ not only so, but im an- swer to any other question.” 12. ov πάντων ῥᾷστον] “ Not the easiest thing in the world.” Cf. supr. 218 c. I venture to think that this is the true reading also in Rep. 6, 497 d, instead of οὐ πάντως ῥᾷστον. πάντως was the reading of Ste- phanus (apparently with C E) in this place, and of SY in 2arsren Gh eve: 16 77 ome: οὐ πάντων εὐκολώτατον. 18. λόγον οὐκ ἂν ἔχον] C.F. Hermann has reverted to the reading of the old edd. doy. οὐκ ἂν ἔχοι. But it is unne- cessary to alter ἔχον, which is the reading of the best MSS. The participle corresponds to the adjective καταγέλαστον in the previous clause: and ἂν is more forcible with the parti- ciple (“is a thing which can- not square with reason”) than it would have been here with the optative (“would be un- reasonable”): ἐστὶ, not εἴη, must be supplied. Cf. Theet. 164 a: ἐπιστήμων τούτου γέγονεν οὗπερ ὁρῶν. Infr. 257 d: τοῦτ᾽ οὖν ἀνώνυμον ἐροῦμεν ἤ TW ἔχον ἐπωνυμίαν ; Θ. ἔχον. “This is an admission which they can never make consistently. For if the name is other than the ἦ P+ 244: ΣΟΦΙΣΤΗΣ. ΘΕΑΙ. Πῇ; Lid HE. Τιθείς re τοὔνομα τοῦ πράγματος ἕτερον δύο / , λέγει ποὺ τινε. ΘΕΔΙ. Ναί = K Ν \ ἊἋ > / » cal On 57 mi. Kar μὴν ἂν ταῦτον γε avT@ τιθὴ τοὔνομα, δ \ + ᾽ , 7 5 > / ἢ μηδενὸς ὄνομα ἀναγκασθήσεται λέγειν" εἰ δέ τινος ϑ i} , XN + > / A αὐτὸ φήσει, συμβήσεται TO ὄνομα ὀνόματος ὀνομα / 32) \ 3 Ν yy μόνον, ἄλλου Oe οὐδενὸς ov ; CEAI. Otras. μα ἂν Ne, ΡΝ A x , A mE. Καὶ τὸ ἐν ye, ἐνὸς [εν] ov μόνον, καὶ τοῦτο 3 / Ne δὰ A ὀνόματος Ταὐτὸ ἕν ὀντ. thing, there are two: if the same, the name either denotes nothing, or itself only. Hence if they admit that a name is anything, their One Being be- comes the name of a name.” 6. ἢ μηδενὸς --- εἰ δέ τινος] Change of construction for ἢ εἴ τινος. το. Καὶ τὸ ἕν γε] “And (it will result) that the One also is only one of one, and this ‘ One that is’ again (rodro—av τὸ ἕν ὄν) (proves to be the name) of a name.” 1.6, “Oneness is only predicable of The One, and this after all is but a name.” So, a little differently from Heindorf, I would translate the words as they stand (reading αὖ τὸ). The omission of ἕν after ἑνός, aS in nine MSS., hardly af- fects the sense. Heindorf ren- ders: “ Atque unum, quatenus est unius tantum unum, hoc quoque nominis rursus unum (das Eins eines Namens) esse efficietur. Pendet enim etiam postremum hoc ὃν a pregresso συμβήσεται." The place seems to be corrupt: but none of the emendations hitherto made are satisfactory. The Bod1., with Ai, has The MSS. give αὐτὸ ἕν ὄν. Stallb. : αὐτὸ ἕν Ov, (This is not dialectic but common sense.) Herm. : τοῦτο ὀνόματος αὖ TO ἕν ὄν. Badham: καὶ τὸ ἕν γε, ἑνὸς ἕν ὃν μόνον καὶ τοῦτο, ὀνόματος δ᾽ οὐ τὸ But how does this help to prove that all questions are alike unanswer- able on the Eleatic principle ? Steinhart: καὶ τὸ ὄν ye, ἑνὸς ὃν ὄνομα, καὶ τούτου ὄντος ὀνόμα- - » τοῦ ὀνόματος. \ ΕΝ > , Kal οὐ που OVOLaTOS Go a aL Lh x evos εν ovopa ov, Kat a 2, εν OV, τος αὐτὸ ὃν ὄνομα. Wagner (in Rhein. Mus. XI. 1857): καὶ τὸ ὄν ye ἑνὸς ὄνομα ὄν, καὶ τοῦτο ὀνόματος αὖ τὸ ὄνομα ὄν. The two last mentioned at- tempt to resume and complete the argument from τίς οὖν --- ἀπόκρισις. And it is clear that the sentence contains an appli- cation of the preceding remark to the One Being. Perhaps the words ἕν ὄν may be the remains of east αυτό σι name be identified with the thing, in which case it is either the name of nothing or the name of itself, that is, of a name. And Being is but the name ot One, which is a name. 10 Further, their One Being is conceive? as Totality. But if it be a whole, “ Like every way unto a rounded sphere,” it then has parts, viz. centre and circumfer- ence. And that which has parts may be one as par- taking of unity, but cannot be the same with unity, for unity is without parts. 5 112 ΘΕΑΙ. ᾿Αναγκη. ΠΛΑΤΩ͂ΝΟΣ / o te fal “ ἃ δ HE. Τί δέ: τὸ ὅλον ἕτερον τοῦ ὄντος ἕνος ἢ a’ / / TavTov φήσουσι TOUT® ; ἐ ΘΕΑΙ. Πῶς γὰρ οὐ φήσουσί τε καὶ φασίν ; > o Cc / SE. Ei τοίνυν ὅλον ἐστίν, ὥσπερ καὶ Παρμενίδης λέγει, ’ >) ᾽ὔ , , , 32) πάντοθεν εὐκύκλου σφαίρης ἐναλίγκιον OKO, ’ " A , A ‘ A »” , “ μεσσόθεν ἰσοπαλες TAVTH TO γὰρ OU TE TL μεῖζον ” , , , eae) ae, o OUST OTE βαιότερον πελέναι χβέον εστι TH ] TY; an “Ὁ ἈΠ [ΔᾺΝ , yy ” a to TOLOUTOV Ye OV TO OV μέσον TE καὶ εσχατα EXEL, ταυτα \ » a > , ’ὔ ΒΩ ἊΝ a ε εχὸν TACK αναγκΚῇ μερὴ EXEL. 1) πως 5 CEAI. Οὕτως. EE. ᾿Αλλὰ μὴν τό ye μεμερισμένον πάθος μὲν a CaN of > lal / tal 3 \ 3 TOU ἑνὸς ἔχειν ἐπὶ τοῖς μέρεσι πᾶσιν οὐδὲν ἀποκω- SEAL ΤΠ γῆς some marginal note (6. g. αὐτοῦ τοῦ ἑνὸς, explaining ὀνόματος), and Plato may have written kat TO ἕν ye ἑνὸς ἕν ὄνομα ὄν, καὶ τοῦτο ὀνόματος. “ And (it will result) that the One also is the one name of One, and that of a name.” 1.6. Not only is Being not another name for Unity, or Unity for Being, but Unity is the name only of aname.” The drift of the pre- ceding argument is the fol- lowing : “Are ἕν and ὃν two names for the same thing ? “ Are they even two names ? Or can there be both name and thing ? “Even the one name ἕν can only be the name of a name.” . ὅλον ἐστίν Se. τὸ ὄν. e , ‘ , \ an ΕΝ ἢ A 5 15 λύει, καὶ ταὐτῃ δὴ πᾶν τε ὃν καὶ ὅλον ἐν εἶναι. So far unity has been attained by merging all things in the mere name ἕν ὄν. But is not τὸ ὅλον still distinct from this ? 10. μέσον τε καὶ ἔσχατα ἔχει] Cf. Parm. 145 a: ἀρχὴν ἂν ἔχοι καὶ μέσον καὶ Te- λεύτην ; ἢ οἷόν τέ τι ὅλον εἶναι ὅλον οὐ καὶ ἄνευ τριῶν τούτων ; K.T.A. 13. πάθος μὲν τοῦ ἑνὸς ἔχειν] “That which has parts may indeed partake of unity in all the parts (i.e. may have unity impressed on them), and being thus an All and a Whole may be in this way one.” For the distinction of πᾶν and ὅλον, see Thezet.204, which passage Plato may have thought of here. The words πάθος and πάσχειν are used in the same sense also in Parmen. 147, alib. See Grote’s Plato, vol. ii. pp. 303-306. p- 244i) P- 245: ΣΟΦΙΣΤΗΣ. 113 EE. To δὲ πεπονθὸς ταῦτα Gp οὐκ ἀδύνατον αὐτό Ν, ἃ SEEN 5 γε TO ἕν αὐτο εἰναι; OEAI. Πώς; HE. ᾿Αμερὲς δή που δεῖ παντελῶς TO γε ἀληθῶς A \ Ν > \ / 7,4 ἐν κατὰ τὸν ὀρθὸν λογον εἰρῆσθαι. ΘΕΑΙ. Δεῖ γὰρ οὖν. lal > “~ “ “ J BE. To δέ ye τοιοῦτον ἐκ πολλῶν μερῶν ὃν ov / lal / συμφωνήσει τῷ λόγῳ. OEAI. Μανθάνω. ΄ 3, δὰ a Ν ΞΕ), Πότερον δὴ πάθος ἔχον τὸ *ov* τοῦ ἑνὸς v4 a yy NGO, Ἃ , \ / οὕτως EV TE ἐσται καὶ OAOY, ἢ παντάπασι μὴ λέγωμεν “ 3 NBs, ὅλον εἶναι TO OV; ΘΕΑΙ. Χαλεπὴν προβέβληκας αἵρεσιν. EE. ᾿Αληθέστατα μέντοι λέγεις. πεπονθὸς τε γὰρ XN oN A 5 7 > PEN δΟ SEN / Ν TO OV εν ELVAL πῶς, οὐ TAVTOY ον Τῷ ενι φαίνεται, Και 7 Ν \ / CaN 32) πλέονα On τὰ πάντα ἐνὸς ἔσται. SEAI. Nai. 1. To δὲ πεπονθὸς ταῦτα] Compare the language of Parm. 147 C-148 c: 7 ἕτερον εἶναι πέπονθε τῶν ἄλλων, καὶ τἄλλα ἐκείνου ὡσαύτως, ταύτῃ ταὐτὸν ἂν πεπονθότα εἶεν τό τε ἕν τοῖς ἄλλοις καὶ τἄλλα τῷ ἑνί K.T.A, 2. τὸ ἕν αὐτὸ εἶνα)7η The pronoun αὐτὸ is added where the subject has been thrown back to the beginning of the sentence, as in Rep. 5,477 d: ἐπιστήμην πότερον δύναμίν twa φὴς εἶναι αὐτήν ; 10. Πότερον δὴ] [. 6. “Is Being one only by participa- tion in unity, and a whole in this way, or is Being not to be thought of as a whole at all 2” τὸ Τὸν τοῦ ἑνὸς] The MSS. agree in giving ὅλον, but ὃν, the correction of Schleier- macher, is absolutely required. The same corruption occurs in Prot. 361 b. The Bodleian, by giving τῷ ὅλῳ λόγῳ just above, betrays the tendency which has produced the error. Cf. Theet. 149 ¢, ἀτόκοις (Bod. ἀτόποις With ἀτοπώτατος above): Ib. 158 ¢, ὅτῳ χρὴ (Bodleian ὅτῳ χρόνῳ χρὴ, With χρόνου below). 13. Χαλεπὴν ---- αἵρεσιν] Cf. Theet. 196 ¢: ἴλπορον αἵρεσιν προτίθης, ὦ Σώκρατες. Legg. 9, 858 a: ΤΓελοίαν, ὦ ξένε, προτιθέ- μεθα τὴν αἵρεσιν. 14. ᾿Αληθέστατα μέντοι λέγεις] “You are right. It is truly difficult.” to Is Being then one only by participa- tion, or shall we say that Being is not a whole ? 15 In the for- mer case Being is distinct from Unity and there arises a plurality of ele- ments. And in the latter case, supposing a whole to exist, there exists something outside of Being: and moreover there is again plurality. 114 _ Ν \ x97 4 » 3 ‘ 0 A A ; EE. Καὶ μὴν ἐάν ye τὸ ὃν ἢ μὴ ὅλον διὰ TO πε- p. 245} ΠΛΑΤΩ͂ΝΟΣ / \ es > , , 53 \ ΒΥΡΆ, ‘ “ πονθέναι τὸ Um ἐκείνου πάθος, ἡ δὲ αὐτὸ τὸ ὅλον, > \ APA « ΄σ / ἐνδεὲς TO ὃν ἑαυτοῦ ξυμβαίνει. ΘΕΑΙ. Πανυ γε. cal \ Ν / ε al / SE. Καὶ κατὰ τοῦτον δὴ τὸν λόγον ἑαυτοῦ aTEpo- » Ὁ y N A μένον οὐκ OV EDOTAL TO OV, SEAI. Οὕτως. μα / 3 / \ ’ / SE. Kai ἑνός ye ad πλείω τὰ πάντα γίγνεται, “ a Ν σι Ν 507 ξ ΄ / TOU TE OVTOS καὶ τοῦ ὁλου χωρὶς ἰδίαν ἑκατέρου φυ- / τοσιν εἰληφότος. OEAI. Ναί. Ν 5) \ , =, 2 We ve EE. Μὴ ὄντος δέ ye τὸ παράπαν τοῦ ὅλου, ταὐτὰ A e , ΄- 7 A ΄- Χ 53 τε ταῦτα ὑπάρχει τῷ ὄντι καὶ πρὸς τῷ μὴ εἶναι μηδ᾽ Ἃ » ΝΠ ζ ἂν γενέσθαι ποτε ov. ΘΕΑΙ. Τί δή; Ν ’ SE. Τὸ γενόμενον ἀεὶ τ. ἢ μὴ ὅλον] The order of words is inverted, as so often happens in this dialogue, pro- bably in order to point the antithesis by giving emphasis to μή. “If Being is not a whole through parcicipating in unity, and the nature of the whole exists, Being then falls short of Being” (does not contain all that exists). Is Being abstract or con- crete? If abstract, Being is not a whole, or finite. If con- crete, Being is separate from abstract Unity. In the latter case there are two principles. In the former, (a) if a whole exists, not only are there two principles, but something ex- ists apart from being: and (8) if a whole does not exist, Being could never haye come / σ“ iA a γέγονεν ὁλον, ὥστε οὔτε to be, for what has come to be is completed as a whole. This last argument is much in the spirit of the Parmenides. Compare also Phileb. 15 Ὁ: πῶς (Set ὑπολαμβάνειν) μίαν ἑκά- στην οὖσαν ἀεὶ τὴν αὐτὴν καὶ μήτε γένεσιν μήτε ὄλεθρον προσδεχο- μένην, ὅμως εἶναι βεβαιότατα μίαν ταύτην. The Eleatic would of course reply that he denies γένεσις altogether. And so Plato would have reasoned at an earlier time. 12. ταὐτά τε ταῦτα ὑπάρχει TO ” > a > νὰ , ὄντι] οὐκ ὄν ἐστι καὶ πλείω ἑνός. Compare the language of the Parmenides. Bodl, ταῦτά τε ταὐτά. 16. γέγονεν ὅλον] Cf. Parm. 153 ¢: Kat μὴν μόριά ye φήσο- “ ἘΣ 5 a μεν ταῦτ᾽ εἶναι πάντα τἄλλα τοῦ [τὸ Χ Θεὸν > A x > Le ὅλου τε καὶ ἑνός, αὐτὸ δὲ ἐκεῖνο c ΣΟΦΙΣΤΗΣ. 115 > / »ὔ 7 5 a , Ν . 245. οὐσίαν οὔτε γένεσιν ὡς οὖσαν δεῖ προσαγορεύειν Ττὸ ἃ » WG? » “-“ 5 \ , εν nt TO ὅλον ἐν τοῖς οὖσι μὴ τιθέντα. ΘΕΑΙ. Παντάπασιν ἔοικε ταῦθ᾽ οὕτως ἔχειν. EE. Καὶ μὴν οὐδ᾽ ὁποσονοῦν τι δεῖ τὸ μὴ (Cy , \ + « , Ἂ oy A εἰναι" TOOOV TL yap OV, OTTOOOV OV No TOO OUTOV > a 3 ἀναγκαῖον εἰναι. OEAI. Κομιδῇ γε. “ oAov 3, 7 , HE. Καὶ τοίνυν ἄλλα μυρία ἀπεράντους ἀπορίας 4 9 Ν χω “- XN oN Sy , \ 3) ἕκαστον εἰληφος φανεῖται τῷ τὸ ὃν εἴτε δυο τινε ETE ἃ , 53 ΄ ἐν μόνον εἰναι λέγοντι. OEAI. Δηλοῖ σχεδὸν καὶ τὰ νῦν ὑποφαίνοντα" Le \ (4 y / συνάπτεται yap ἕτερον ἐξ ἄλλου, μείζω Kal χαλε- ’ / Ν “ x7 cy ε , πωτέραν φέρον περὶ τῶν ἐμπροσθεν ἀεὶ ῥηθέντων πλάνην. — Χ \ ? Sy SE. Tovs μὲν τοίνυν διακριβολογουμένους ὄντος ἅμα τῇ τελευτῇ γεγονέναι ἕν τε καὶ ὅλον. 1.6. the use of the aorist γενόμενον implies that an action has been completed. Cf. Theet. 155 b, ec. I. τὸ ἐν ἢ] These words are in all the MSS., but there can be little doubt that they arise either from a gloss or from some corruption of the text. Heindorf conjectured τὸν τὸ ὅλον, which is probably right. 8. ἄλλα μυρία] “ You know that innumerable other points will each be found involved in endless difficulties.” Cf. Theeet. 1550, d: καὶ ἄλλα δὴ μυρία ἐπὶ μυρίοις οὕτως ἔχει, εἴπερ καὶ ταῦτα παραδεξόμεθα. For an_illus- tration of the truth of this Plato would point to the Par- menides. 12. ἕτερον ἐξ ἄλλου] For the Q variety, cf. Phileb. 57 b: dpa ἔστι τις ἑτέρας ἄλλη καθαρωτέρα ἐπιστήμης ἐπιστήμη. And for περὶ ἔμπροσθεν κ. τ. Xa, Theet. 177 ¢: πλείω ἀεὶ ἐπιρ- ρέοντα καταχώσει ἡμῶν τὸν ἐξ ἀρχῆς λόγον. 15.Tovs μὲν τοίνυν κιτ.λ.7“ὙΥ 61] then, concerning those who treat exactly of Being and Not-Being, let so much suffice, although the subject is by no means exhausted. We must now turn and look at others who speak less precisely, that we may learn from the most general survey that Being is no less troublesome to com- prehend than Not-Being.” “Let us approach them, then. Proceed.” (1 see them, through their dispute about the nature of Being, engaged in a warfare τῶν ο - 10 into being, But if there is no “ oAov 5 Whole, not only must there be plurality, (for then Being is not One) but Being cannot have come still less exist, for nothing is completed but as a whole. Nor can Being have number, '5 for, what- ever num- ber it has, it has this as a whole, or sum. 110 / ἈΝ ‘ / \ τε πέρι καὶ μὴ πανυ μεν which resembles that of the Giants and the Gods.” “What do you mean ?” “The one faction would drag everything to Earth out of the Heaven of the Unseen, literally laying their grasp on rocks and trees. For they fasten upon everything of this kind, and contend uncompro- misingly that this alone exists which affords resistance and is sensible to the touch: so they define Being and Body to be the same. But they utterly despise the rest of the world, whoever asserts that a bodiless thing has being, and, on hear- ing this, refuse to listen to another word.” “They are indeed a fearful sort of men. I have encoun- tered many of them myself, ere now.” “Yes, and that is why their opponents are so cautious in their defence, and fight with them from some invisible aéry hold, contending in spite of all that True Being consists of certain bodiless forms, seen only by the mind: but the bodies to which the others cling, and the realities of which they speak, these little by little in their arguments disintegrate and crumble down, and describe them as not substance but a moving flux of change. Between these armies from time immemorial a battle has been joined, which continues with unabated fury.” (1 5.) διακριβολογουμένου-----ἀλ- os λέγοντας] In the former class are obyiously contaimed MAATQNOZ ov διεληλύθαμεν, ὅμως δὲ all who have hitherto been mentioned—the Ionics, Elea- tics, Heraclitus, Empedocles : and the word é:axp. probably means “ those who have defined precisely the number and the kinds of being.” Cf.supr. 2424: ὅστις πώποτε ἐπὶ κρίσιν ὥρμησε τοῦ τὰ ὄντα διορίσασθαι πόσα τε καὶ ποῖά ἐστιν. It is less certain who are spoken of as διακρ. περὶ τοῦ μὴ ὄντος. Perhaps the prohibition of Parmenides is alone referred to, perhaps Leucippus may be also in- tended. It does not seem probable that Gorgias, Pro- tagoras, Antisthenes, or the Megarians (as Heindorf sup- poses) are included in this ex- pression. The contemporaries of Socrates seem to be resery- ed, with those of Plato, for the following section (p. 246). The meaning of ἄλλως is best infer- red from that of διακριβολογου- μένους, to which ἄλλως λέγοντας is opposed. “Those who speak with less exactness.” “ Those who do not seek to determine the number or the kinds of Being.” The schools which are now to be described are in truth engaged with a different problem: respecting the nature of Being or Essence, whether this be ideal or corporeal—a question with which mathe- matical or numerical exactness has little to do. For a simi- lar use of ἄλλως, ef. Hdt. V. 8: ἄλλως γῇ κρύψαντες. Crat. 425 ἃ: ἡμᾶς δὲ δεῖ εἴπερ τεχνι- κῶς ἐπιστησόμεθα σκοπεῖσθαι αὐτὰ πάντα, οὕτω διελομένους, εἴτε κατὰ τρόπον τά τε πρῶτα ὀνόματα κεῖ- ται καὶ τὰ ὕστερα, εἴτε μή, οὕτω ΣΟΦΙΣΤΗΣ. Τὺ 245. ἱκανῶς ἐχέτω: τοὺς δὲ ἄλλως λέγοντας αὖ θεατέον, . 246 ett hi , lanl “ Ν Ὁ an \ 5᾽ > \ ἵν ἐκ πάντων εἰδῶμεν OTL TO OY TOU μὴ ὄντος οὐδεν » / ’ lal σ / Se εὐπορώτερον ELTTELY O TL TOT εστιν. GEAI. Οὐκοῦν πορεύεσθαι χρὴ καὶ ἐπὶ τούτους. be Ν Ν yx ΄ » > - - mE. Καὶ μὴν ἐοικέ ye ἐν αὑτοῖς οἷον γιγαντο- θεᾶσθαι. ἄλλως δὲ φαῦλον ἢ καὶ οὐ καθ᾽ ὁδόν, ὦ φίλε Ἑρμόγενες, where ἄλλως = μὴ διελομένους, as here it is = μὴ δια- κριβολογουμένους, in both places with a touch of blame, which is here satirically directed by Plato against the philosophers who were most nearly con- temporary with himself. See also Legg. 1, 635 e, where all other existing common- wealths are distinguished from the Spartan and Cretan con- stitutions in the words τί δια- φέρον ἐν ταύταις ταῖς πολιτείαις ἢ ταῖς τῶν εἰκῇ πολιτευομένων ἀνευρήσομεν. (1.) πάνυ μὲν οὐ διεληλύθαμεν] “We most certainly have not exhausted —.”” σπσάνυ is ad- verbial to the phrase οὐ διελη- λύθαμεν. πάντας, which Hein- dorf adopted from the quo- tation of Eusebius, is less forcible. Cf. Prot. 338 Ὁ, πάνυ μὲν οὐκ ἤθελεν, quoted by Stallbaum, who, notwithstand- ing, rejects the MS. reading here because it is not literally true that the early philoso- phers had been not at all dis- cussed : “ Recensuit enim non- nullos quanquam non omnes tetigit.”” But διεληλ. implies either going through them all, or discussing them thoroughly. Phileb. 51 ¢: πάνυ μὲν οὖν οὐκ εὐθὺς δῆλά ἐστιν. --- πειρατέον μήν. See an instructive note συνείρειν μὴ on οὐ πάνυ in Mr. Cope’s Gor- elas. 2. ἐκ mavrov| As the result derived from all, the same which has now been derived from a part only. Cf. Theset. 171 ¢, ἐξ ἁπάντων, and note ; Ar. Met. VII. 998 a; and vid. infr. 251 6: ἵνα τοίνυν πρὸς ἅπαν- τας ἡμῖν ὃ λόγος 7} K.T.A. ὅτε τὸ ὃν τοῦ μὴ ὄντος] This notion was advanced with some hesitation supr. 242 c¢: μή πῃ τεταραγμένοι μὲν ὦμεν. 243 ¢: Τάχα τοίνυν ἴσως κ.τ.λ., and is more decidedly enforced infra 250 d. 5. γιγαντομαχία] Plato notices amongst contemporary philo- sophers a conflict between ma- terialists and idealists, which he compares to the war of the Giants with the Gows: the terrible children of the earth are seen hurling blind defi- ance at their opponents, who fortify themselves securely from this rude violence in an invisible Heaven. In a similar spirit, in the Politicus, p. 291 a, the statesmen of the day are compared to Centaurs and Satyrs and other monstrous forms. See Coleridge’s Friend, vol. iii, p. 129.—The mate- rialist has no way upwards His “element is below.” The idealist finds his way up, but not down again. II. Ὁ; 5 We pro- ceed to examine a clifferent order of philosophic schools, somewhat less exact in their announce- ments, whose end- less conflict respecting the nature of essence resembles that of the Giants with the Gods. The advo- eates of a bodily prin- ciple,whose touchstone is the sense 118 μαχία τις εἶναι διὰ τὴν ἀμφισβήτησιν περὶ τῆς P- 249-4) οὐσίας πρὸς ἀλλήλους. ΘΕΑΙ. Πῶς; ΠΛΑΤΩΝΟΣ --- e \ , ~ 5 5 cal Ν nn 5 4 ΞΕ. Οἱ μὲν εἰς γῆν ἐξ οὐρανοῦ καὶ Tov ἀοράτου περιλαμβάνοντες. , 0 o lal / ΄ δπάντα ἕλκουσι, ταῖς χερσὶν ἀτεχνῶς πέτρας καὶ δρῦς “ Ν “ >’ / TOV yap τοιούτων ἐφαπτόμενοι ΄ -. ce 53 / a / TTAVT@V διισχυρίζονται TOUTO E€LVAL μόνον ὁ πάρέχει Χ \ > / SFR a QA > / προσβολὴν καὶ ἐπαφὴν τινα, TAVTOY σῶμα καὶ οὐσίαν «ς / “ \ 3, 3, lal » ὁριζόμενοι, τῶν δὲ ἄλλων, εἴ τίς φησι μὴ σῶμα ἔχον 5 a Ν το εἰναι, καταφρονοῦντες τὸ y+ Ἢ λοντες ἄλλο ἀκούειν. /, aN Iad 3 / παράπαν καὶ οὐδὲν ἐθέ- ΘΕΑΙ. Ἢ δεινοὺς εἴρηκας avdpas’ ἤδη γὰρ καὶ 3 \ / o 7 εγὼ TOUT@V συχνοις τροσετυχον. I. περὶ τῆς οὐσίας] No longer τοῦ ὄντος. ‘This change of ter- minology indicates that we are entering on a new and more abstract phase of philosophy. 5. ἕλκουσι] “ Drag by main force.” The word is often used to indicate perversity in argument. Cf. infr. ἃ : σῶμα πάντα ἑλκόντων βίᾳ. οὐ- ρανὸς is elsewhere identified by Plato with the visible region, e.g. Rep. 6, 509 €: ὁρατοῦ, iva μὴ οὐρανὸν εἰπὼν δοκῶ σοι σοφί- εσθαι περὶ τὸ ὄνομα. Earth and Heaven are here opposed, as there the visible and intel- lectual worlds. ἀτεχνῶς πέτρας kal δρῦς περι- λαμβάνοντες) C. F. Hermann inserts ὡς before πέτρας. This is quite unnecessary, and takes from the liveliness of the image. The metaphor is continued, and the materialists are said, like the earth-born monsters, to lay their grasp on rocks and trees τῶν εἰς in their warfare. In Hesiod it is the hundred-handed sons of Heaven and Earth, the allies of Zeus, who throw the rocks up- on the Titans. Theog.67 5-715. But see Hor. Od. III. 4: evulsis- que truncis Enceladus jaculator audax. πέτρα καὶ δρῦς are also in Homer the symbols of in- animate nature, as in the line quoted by Socrates in his De- fence: ov yap ἀπὸ δρύος ἤλυθον οὐδ᾽ ἀπὸ πέτρης. Cf. Rep. ὃ, 544 6: ἢ οἴει ἐκ δρυός ποθεν ἢ ἐκ πέτρας τὰς πολιτείας γίγνεσθαι ; 6. ἐφαπτόμενοι] “ Fastening upon all such objects” (for the purposes of their argument). 9. τῶν δὲ ἄλλων, εἴ tis φησι] “ But, utterly despising all others, whosoever says that what has not body exists, and refusing to hear from them an- other word.” Stephanus added τι, which is found (after τις) in C. H. re. B. 13. συχνοῖς προσέτυχον] Cf. b . 246. ΣΟΦΙΣΤῊΣ. 119 SE. Τοιγαροῦν οἱ πρὸς αὐτοὺς ἀμφισβητοῦντες 7 ’ a / \ μάλα εὐλαβῶς ἄνωθεν ἐξ ἀοράτου ποθὲν ἀμύνονται, \ A Ν > / BA el \ > νοητὰ ATTA καὶ ἀσώματα εἰδὴ βιαζόμενοι THY ἀλη- \ > / 53 Ἧ Ν \ > / / Ν \ θινὴν οὐσίαν εἰναι" τὰ δὲ ἐκείνων σώματα Kal τὴν / Ces). » a / Ν λεγομένην ὑπ᾽ αὐτῶν ἀλήθειαν κατὰ σμικρὰ δια- / lal / / > Opavovres ἐν τοῖς λόγοις γένεσιν ἀντ᾽ οὐσίας φερο- ΄ Χ ΄ μένην τινὰ προσαγορευοῦυσιν. > / \ Ν ἐν μέσῳ δὲ περὶ a yy > , 7 5 / aN ταῦτα ἄπλετος ἀμφοτέρων μάχη τις, ὦ Θεαίτητε, ἀεὶ 7, ξυνέσ TYKEV. OEAI. ᾿Αληθῆ. 5 lal / ΄σ σ΄ =H. [lap ἀμφοῖν τοίνυν τοῖν γενοῖν κατὰ μέρος ld / - - “ » λάβωμεν λόγον ὑπὲρ ἧς τίθενται τῆς οὐσίας. ΘΕΑΙ. Πῶς οὖν δὴ ληψόμεθα ; Cratyl. 429 d: *Ap’ ὅτι ψευδῆ λέγειν τὸ παράπαν οὐκ ἔστιν, dpa σοι τοῦτο δύναται 6 λόγος : συχνοὶ γάρ τινες οἱ λέγοντες, ὦ φίλε Κρα- τύλε, καὶ νῦν καὶ πάλαι. (13.) προσέτυχον] So the Zur. editors. Heind. and Stallb., with some MSS., περιέτυχον. “ Encountered” suits the pas- sage better than “ lit upon.” I. Τοιγαροῦν] Se. ἅτε δεινοὶ ὄντες. 2. μάλα εὐλαβῶς] “ With ex- cellent heed.” In fact never crossing weapons with their opponents. For each denies the existence of that by which the other holds. 3. βιαζόμενοι] “« Contending vehemently in spite of all diffi- culties ;” like ἕλκοντες above. Cf. supr. 2416: βιάζεσθαι τό τε μὴ ὃν ὡς ἔστι κατά τι καὶ τὸ ὃν αὖ πάλιν ὡς οὐκ ἔστι πῃ; 1. 6. “to forcethe conclusion evenagainst the authority of Parmenides.” 4. THY λεγομένην ---- ἀλήθειαν] “The reality of which they speak.” ἀλήθεια, = reality,seems to have been a favourite term with the opponents of ideal philosophy in Greece. Cf. Theeet. 152 d and note. 5. κατὰ σμικρὰ διαθραύοντες ἐν τοῖς λόγοις] Cf. Theet. 179 d: προσιτέον οὖν ἐγγυτέρω, Kal σκε- πτέον τὴν φερομένην ταύτην οὐσίαν διακρούοντα, εἴτε ὑγιὲς εἴτε σαθρὸν φθέγγεται. 7. ἐν μέσῳ δὲ περὶ ταῦτα] “ Betwixt these armies on this theme is waged an endless war.” 8. ἄπλετος---μάχη---ἀε] Cf. Legg. 10, 906 a, of the conflict between good and evil: μάχη δή, φαμεν, ἀθάνατός ἐστιν ἡ τοι- αὕτη. Phileb. 15 6: τοῦτο οὔτε μὴ παύσηταί ποτε ovte ἤρξατο Tim. 28 a: ὑπὲρ ἧς τίθεν- I. 6. ὑπὲρ τῆς νῦν. ται τῆς οὐσίας. οὐσίας, ἣν τίθενται. 12. λάβωμεν λόγον] Cf. Theset. 161 Ὁ: λόγον παρ᾽ ἑτέρου σοφοῦ λαβεῖν. Meno 70 d: λαμβάνειν λόγον καὶ ἐλέγχειν. Rep.1, 337 Ὁ. 5 10 of touch, drag every- thing to earth out of the hea- ven of the Unseen. From thence an army, * lapped in proof eterne,” carefully defend their aéry citadel of bodiless forms, and by their arguments reduce to a flux of transitory production the seem- ing reality of yonder bodily sub- stance, The prin- ciples of either school are called in question, and Thee- tetus en- gages to impart to the Stranger the tenor of their replies, 15 120 o > > > 4 / BE. Παρὰ μὲν τῶν ev εἴδεσιν αὐτὴν τιθεμένων p. 246.4) ΠΙΛΑΤΏΩΏΝΟΣ ean ς / / \ \ cal > a“ ΄ ῥᾷον" ἡμερώτεροι yap’ παρᾶ δὲ τῶν εἰς σῶμα πάντα ε ΄ 5 \ ‘\ ἑλκόντων Bia χαλεπώτερον, ἴσως δὲ καὶ σχεδὸν é ἀδύνατον. 5 δρᾷν. ΘΕΑΙ. Πώς: ἀλλ᾽ ὧδέ μοι δεῖν δοκεῖ περὶ αὐτῶν EE. Μάλιστα μέν, εἴ πῃ δυνατὸν ἦν, ἔργῳ βελ- / > \ “ > \ cal \ > ΄σ / Tlovs αὑτοὺς ποιεῖν' εἰ δὲ τοῦτο μὴ ἐγχωρεῖ, AoY@ a « ’ ’ Ε Χ Δ ΄σ τοίιῶμὲν,. ὑποτιθέμενοι νομιμώτερον αὐτοὺς ἢ νυν 17 Ἂ / ιοέθέλοντας ἂν ἀποκρίνασθαι. τὸ γὰρ ὁμολογηθὲν Χ ΄, ΄ x \ \ , παρὰ βελτιονων ποὺ Κυριώτερον Ἢ TO παρᾶ χείρο- νων᾿ ἡμεῖς δὲ οὐ τούτων φροντίζομεν, ἀλλὰ τἀληθὲς ζητοῦμεν. ΘΕΑΙ. Ὀρθότατα. HE. Κέλευε δὴ τοὺς βελτίους γεγονότας ἀπο- “ / Ν XN \ ’ x OA 2 κρίνασθαι σοι; καὶ τὸ AexOev παρ αὐτῶν adep- μήνευε. 3. χαλεπώτερονἢ͵] The diffi- culty of arguing with these men is different from that found with the Ephesian péov- τες, who could not be made to dwell on an idea, and arises simply from their want of dia- lectical refinement. Cf. Theeet. 155 6: εἰσὶ yap, ὦ παῖ, pad εὖ ἄμουσοι. 9. νομιμώτερον] I. 6. More in accordance with the acknow- ledged rules of argument. 10. TO yap ὁμολογηθὲν ---- χει- ρόνων] For the serious applica- tion of this principle, ef. Legg. 2, 663 ο: τὴν δ᾽ ἀλήθειαν τῆς κρίσεως ποτέραν κυριωτέραν εἶναι φῶμεν ; πότερα τὴν τῆς χείρονος ψυχῆς ἢ τὴν τῆς βελτίονος ; ᾿Αν- aykaidy που τὴν τῆς ἀμείνονος. 12. ἡμεῖς δὲ οὐ τούτων φροντί- Copev] Cf. Pheedo ο1 ο : ἂν ἐμοὶ πειθῆσθε, σμικρὰ φροντίσαντες Σωκράτους, τῆς δὲ ἀληθείας πολὺ μᾶλλον, ἐὰν μέν τι δοκῶ ἀληθὲς λέγειν, ξυνομολογήσετε, εἰ δὲ μὴ, παντὶ λόγῳ ἀντιτείνετε. Plato sometimes insists on the neces- sity of individual conviction, as in Protagoras 331 ¢ (οὐδὲν yap δέομαι τὸ εἰ βούλει τοῦτο καὶ εἴ σοι δοκεῖ ἐλέγχεσθαι ἀλλ᾽ ἐμέ τε καὶ σέ), Gorg. 472 Ὁ, 474 a, b ; sometimes, as here, on consistency of argument alone. The former is the Socratic, the latter the Platonic, mode of asserting the supremacy of reason. 16. παρ᾽ αὐτῶν] The preposi- tion is introduced because of the verb ἀφερμήνευε. “ Convey from them to me the tenour of their 246. 247. b ΣΟΦΙΣΤῊΣ. ΘΕΑ.ΑΙ. Ταῦτ᾽ ἐσται. ΞΕ. Λεγόντων δὴ θνητὸν ζῶον εἰ ναί τι. ΘΕΑΙ. Πῶς δ᾽ οὔ: 12] ασὶν €i- φ HE. Τοῦτο δὲ οὐ σῶμα ἔμψυχον ὁμολογοῦσιν ; ΘΕΑΙ. Πάνυ γε. ΞΕ. Τιθέντες τι τῶν ὄντων ψυχήν ; ΘΕΑΙ. Nai. EE. Τί δέ; ψυχὴν οὐ τὴν μὲν δικαίαν, τὴν δὲ 5» ͵ 5 ᾿ \ \ 7 \ \ ἀδικὸν φασιν εἶναι, καὶ τὴν μὲν φρόνιμον, τὴν δὲ ἄφρονα; OEAI. Τί μήν ; HE. ᾿Αλλ᾽ οὐ δικαιοσύνης ἕξει καὶ παρουσίᾳ , ’ a Cee, , Ν “ 5 / TOLAUTYNV αὐτῶν EKAO THY γίγνεσθαι, και τῶν EVAYTLOV \ ’ , THV EVAVTLAV 9 OEAI. Nai, καὶ ταῦτα ξύμφασιν. EE. ᾿Αλλὰ μὴν τό γε δυνατόν τῳ παραγίγνεσθαι NYS. / ΄ “3, / ΄ και ἀπογίγνεσθαι TAVTMS ELVAL TL φησουσιν. ΘΈΑΙ. Φασὶ μὲν οὖν. 2, 3 7ὔ / HE. Οὔσης οὖν δικαιοσύνης καὶ φρονήσεως καὶ 5 »y » a Ν a 5 , Ν \ Ν lat τῆς GAANS ἀρετῆς καὶ TOV ἐναντίων, καὶ δὴ καὶ ψυχῆς » - a ’ , 7 ε XN e XN ἐν ἡ ταῦτα ἐγγίγνεται, πότερον ὁρατὸν καὶ ἁπτὸν Ὁ , / 5. is » 7 x7 ELVQAL φασί τι αὐτῶν 7) σαντα AOPaTa 9 ΘΕΑΙ. Σχεδὸν οὐδὲν τούτων γε ὁρατόν. reply.” ἀφερμήνευε possibly (like ἄλλως supr.) imputes to these philosophers a want of clearness in expression. At all events, on the points in question an ΠΟ answer could only be obtained from them by way of inference. Cf., however, Legg. 2, 660 Ὁ: ὡς σὺ κατ᾽ Αἴγυπτον ἀφερμηνεύεις, where the word means to 76- port from a foreign country. R 13. δικαιοσύνης ἕξει kat Ἱπαρου- σίᾳ "] “ The possession and pre- sence of justice.” See note on Theet.153 Ὁ: ἡ δ᾽ ἐν τῇ ψυχῆ ἕξις. 14. τῶν ἐναντίων] Se. ἕξει καὶ παρουσίᾳ. The plural suggests the conjecture that Plato wrote δικαιοσύνης ἕξει καὶ φρονήσεως. 24. Σχεδὸν----ὁρατὸν] Cf. Lege. To, 898 d. 5 The corpo- realists are the more difficult, because of their dia- lectical rudeness and incom- petence. For the sake of ar- gument we must ima- gine them capable of making a wholesome answer. They ad- mit, then, the exist- ence of a mortal liy- ing crea- ture, which is a body containing a soul. Soul, then, exists: and may be either righteous or un- righteous, wise or un- 20 Wise, ac- cording as the soul has righteous- ness and wisdom, or thereverse. Righteous- ness and wisdom (i. 6. virtue) are thus admitted to exist. And the soul and virtue are invi- sible. And of these in- visibles, though they may assert that the soul is in a man- ner bodily, theycannot maintain that virtue has a cor- poreal form. 122 HE. Ti δέ: ἴσχειν ; ΠΛΑΤΏΝΟΣ ΘΕΑΙ. Τοῦτο οὐκέτι κατὰ ταὐτὰ ἀποκρίνονται a > \ \ \ \ TEN “ ͵ πον πᾶν, ἀλλὰ τὴν μεν ψυχὴν αὐτὴν δοκεῖν σφισι σῶμα a 7 =~ 6 5τι κεκτῆσθαι, φρόνησιν δὲ καὶ τῶν ἄλλων ἕκαστον fe; > ΄ > 7, Ν a x \ r ὧν ἡρώτηκας, αἰσχύνονται TO τολμᾷν ἢ μηδὲν τῶν yw 5 Ace - ΩΝ / > 53 / - ὄντων αὐτὰ ὁμολογεῖν ἢ πάντ᾽ εἶναι σώματα διίσχυ- ρίζεσθαι. HE. Σαφῶς γὰρ ἡμῖν, ὦ Θεαίτητε, βελτίους , »y > Ν ΄ »Ὸὃἢ}» ἃ A 5 10 YEYOVATLY ἄνδρες, ἐπεὶ τούτων OVO ἂν ἐν ἐπαισχυν- a Ὡ > an / ἐν ᾽ J > \ θεῖεν οἵ ye αὐτῶν σπαρτοί τε Kal αὐτόχθονες, ἀλλὰ τ. τί---ἴσχειν] Join τῶν τοι- ούτων τι. 3. Τοῦτο οὐκέτι) ‘“ They an- swer this with a distinction, saying that the soul appears to them to have a bodily form of some kind, but with regard to wisdom and the other things of which you ask, they have not the face either to admit that these have no being, or any longer to insist that all things are bodily.” 4. τὴν μὲν ψυχὴν]! See De- mocr. Fragmenta Physica (Mul- lach), esp. ὃ 3. The word πάντα does not resume φρόνη- σιν x.t.r., but the sentence reverts to an independent con- struction. Cf. supr. 243 a, aud note. 4. σῶμά τι κεκτῆσθαι] The invisibility of the atoms of Leucippus and Democritus is no objection to these philo- sophers being included here : for these words imply the ex- istence of an ἀόρατον σῶμα. 6. τὸ τολμᾷν] The inf. has the force of a noun. Cf. οὐδ᾽ ἂν ἕν infra. 7. αὐτὰ] See note on αὐτὸ, supr. 245 a. II. σπαρτοί] By an accumu- lation of similes not unusual with him (see Thezt. 169 b, Sciron and Anteus), Plato in- troduces an allusion to the army of Cadmus rising from the dra- gon’s teeth, and also to the first inhabitants of Attica, who, like the Giants, sprang from the ground. Cf. Rep. 3, 444 6, Φοινικικόν τι, and Soph. did. Col. 1534, σπαρτῶν an ἀνδρῶν. of αὐτῶν σπαρτοὶ καὶ αὐτό- χθονε] Plato has obviously some men in his eye, probably the same to whom he alludes in Theet. 155 e. If it is true that Archelaus abandoned the ideal principle of Anaxagoras, and became a purely physical philosopher, he is perhaps in- cluded, as well as the contem- porary followers of Demoeri- tus. (See Introduction to Thez- tetus, p. xxx sqq.) But there appear to be some who, though holding a material principle, are thought capable of being improved into the position Cc ΄“΄ / 5 ΄σ / / TOV τοιούτων LOY σῶμά TL λεγουσιν Ῥ-. 247.) ΣΟΦΙΣΤΗΣ. 02 Awd ] / x a A Ν Ν rn 247. διατείνοιντ ἂν πᾶν, 0 μὴ δυνατοὶ ταῖς χερσὶ ξυμπιέ- , « ,᾽΄ a »>a\ \ , > Ce εἰσίν, ὡς apa τοῦτο οὐδὲν TO παράπαν ἐστίν. OEAI. Σχεδὸν οἷα διανοοῦνται λέγεις. jn A / ἴω / > , SE. Πάλιν τοίνυν ἀνερωτῶμεν αὐτούς" εἰ yap τι \ ἊΝ 57 “ 5, a > / καὶ σμικρὸν ἐθέλουσι τῶν ὄντων συγχωρεῖν ἀσώ- > a ἃ paroy, ἐξαρκεῖ. ἣΝ Ν » / / vA Ν 33 TO yep ἐστὶ TE TOUTOLS AUa Και ETT 5 , “ y a \ / > ΟΣ / EKELVOLS OTH EXEL σωμα ξυμφυὲς yeyovos, εἰς 0 βλέ- 5) / 53 4 an 5 « ποντες ἀμφότερα εἰναι λέγουσι, τοῦτο αὐτοῖς ῥητέον. (ues) 53 ͵ EY > 5 ᾽ ᾽ὔ a Tax οὖν tows ἂν ἀποροίεν" εἰ δέ τι τοιοῦτον πεπόν - , ,ὔ « a 53 » x θασι, σκόπει, προτεινομένων ἡμῶν, ap ἐθέλοιεν ἂν , « la Ud 5 3, δέχεσθαι καὶ ὁμολογεῖν τοιόνδ᾽ εἶναι τὸ ὅν. which is assigned them in what follows, who by dialec- tical pressure can be brought to substitute force for body. Perhaps the “disciples of Pro- tagoras,” who said that “sen- sation was knowledge,” are thus viewed as a more refined sort of materialists. If so, the irony with which, in the Theztetus, they are opposed to the wnini- tiate becomes manifest. Cer- tainly the words, τὴν λεγομένην ὑπ᾿ αὐτῶν ἀλήθειαν κατὰ σμικρὰ διαθραύοντες ἐν τοῖς λόγοις γένεσιν ἀντ᾽ οὐσίας φερομένην τινὰ προσ- ayopevovow, are an exact de- scription of the “ Megarian” treatment of Protagoras in the Theeetetus, and it may be that the notion of making the men better for the sake of argu- ment is suggested by the deve- lopment of the “ sensational idealism,” which is attributed to him in that dialogue. It is equally possible, however, that the argument is pointed at a supposed inconsistency be- tween the physical and ethical R writings of Democritus. See the views on “the soul,” “justice,” “wisdom,” in De- mocniius Hr. 1,34, 5: 6, 35, SO MUD ΠΣ 29) 120, nor (Mullach’s edition). I. πᾶν ὃ μὴ δυνατοὶ ---εἰσί] For the “pendent” constr. of πᾶν, cf. supr. 219 Ὁ: πᾶν, ὅπερ K.T.A.—TOv μὲν ἄγοντα ποιεῖν, τὸ δὲ ἀγόμενον ποιεῖσθαί πουφάμεν. ταῖς χερσὶ ovpmiecew] The description of the ἀμύητοι in Thezet. 155 e is closely parallel, οἱ οὐδὲν ἄλλο οἰόμενοι εἶναι ἢ οὗ ἂν δύνωνται ἀπρὶξ τοῖν χεροῖν λαβέσθαι. Cf. Emped. 1. 356: ἡμετέραις ἢ χερσὶ λαβεῖν. ἥπερ τε μεγίστη πειθοῦς ἀνθρώποισιν ἁμαξιτὸς εἰς φρένα πίπτει. 6. ἐπί τε τούτοι]͵ Cf. Theeet. 185 0) supr. 243 d,e. 7. ξυμφυὲς γεγονὸς} “ Which arises as a common nature.” 10. προτεινομένων] The word προτείνεσθαι in this sense 80- quires a technical use in Aristo- tle, cf. Topica, p. 164, b. 2: ἔστι yap, ὡς ἁπλῶς εἰπεῖν, ὁ διαλεκτι- κὸς ὁ προτατικὸς καὶ ἐνστατικός" 9 - Io We sup- pose them to make this ad- mission : though it is far more than the aboriginal * Sons of Earth” would have admitted. We then ask, If the name ‘ ex- istent’ ap- plies to things both visible and invisible, what is the common nature which is thus pre- dicated of both ? Lest we shouldhave to pause for a reply, we propose to them the following definition of Being : “ΑἹ that is by nature capable either of doing or suffering.’ Being is potency, 124 IAATQNOZ GEAI. To ποῖον δή ; λέγε, καὶ τάχα εἰσόμεθα. / \ \ « _ / 7 ΞῈ. Λέγω δὴ τὸ καὶ ὁποιανοῦν κεκτημένον du- Γ ΑΣΖῚ > Ν lal “ἤ « a / 7 > νᾶμιν, ELT ELS TO ποίειν ETEPOV OTLOVY πεφυκος, €LT > Χ vad Ν / c Ν An /, εἰς TO παθεῖν καὶ σμικρότατον ὑπο TOU φαυλοτάτου, Ἃ > ΄ " ΄, “- ΄- Ε 5 - / 5 KQV εἰ μόνον εἰσάπαξ, σαν τοῦτο οντῶς εἰναι τίθεμαι \ “ cd / Ἄν τον ε ᾽7 ᾽ yA \ yap opov, ὁρίζειν τὰ ὄντα, ὡς ἐστιν οὐκ ἄλλο τι πλὴν δύναμις. ΘΕΑΙ. ᾿Αλλ᾽ ἐπείπερ αὐτοί γε οὐκ ἔχουσιν ἐν τῷ / / / / / lal παρόντι τούτου βέλτιον λέγειν, δέχονται τοῦτο. — K ave 5) Ν oN ’ 7 ΤΣ \ mE. Καλῶς" tows yap av εἰσυστερον ἡμίν TE καὶ ἔστι δὲ τὸ προτείνεσθαι, ἕν ποιεῖν τὰ πλείω (δεῖ γὰρ ἕν ὅλως ληφθῆναι πρὸς ὃ ὁ λύγος) τὸ δ᾽ ἐνίστασθαι τὸ ἕν πολλά, ἢ γὰρ ἀναιρεῖ ἢ δι- αιρει. 2. Λέγω δὴ] “ Well, here I give it you.” λέγω refers to λέγε, and δὴ is used, δεικτικῶς, as in καὶ δή. 3. εἴτ᾽ εἰς τὸ----φαυλοτάτου] “ Hither so as to affect another thing, or to be affected by the least thing in the most trifling way.” For this use of ποιεῖν, whence the technical word ποι- ητικός in later Greek philo- sophy, cf. Thezet. 160 a. 5. κἂν εἰ μόνον εἰσάπαξ] As in the production of an individual sensation. Cf. Theet. 157 a. τίθεμαι γὰρ ὅρον --- δύναμις Badham conjectures τίθεμαι γὰρ ὅρον ὡς ἔστιν οὐκ ἄλλο τι πλὴν δύναμις. Boeckh. conj. ὁρίζων. The construction of ὁρίζειν is difficult. There is probably an ellipse of δεῖν, οἵ, Δέδεικται k.7.A. supr. 235 Ὁ. Mr. Grote, in his eriticism of this dialogue, appears to think that Plato intended to allow this defi- nition to stand. But does he not attach more importance than Plato does to what is only a step, though an important step, in the dialectical progress of the argument ? Observe the words (247 6), ἴσως yap ἂν εἰσύ- στερον ἡμῖν τε καὶ τούτοις ἕτερον ἂν φανείη. For an application of the same notion, ef. Pheedr. 270 d: ὧδε δεῖ διανοεῖσθαι περὶ ὁτουοῦν πρῶτον μὲν, ἁπλοῦν ἢ πολυειδές ἐστιν----ἔπειτα φύσεως, δὲ, ἐὰν μὲν ἁπλοῦν 7, σκοπεῖν τὴν δύναμιν αὐτοῦ, τίνα πρὸς τί πέ- φυκεν εἰς τὸ δρᾷν ἔχον 7 τίνα εἰς τὸ παθεῖν ὑπὸ τοῦ. 6. ὡς ἔστιν] Se. τὰ ὄντα. 9. δέχονται τοῦτο] In ἃ simi- lar spirit, in Legg. 10, goo, Clinias answers for the ob- jectors. Compare also the ima- ginary youth in the Phedrus (p. 243 6). 10. Καλῶς] “ They say well.” This refers to the modification of their assent implied in ἐπεί- περ αὐτοὶ οὐκ ἔχουσιν K.T.D. ἴσως γὰρ ἂν εἰσύστερον ---- gavein] Cf. Legg. 7, 820 6: κείσθω μέντοι καθάπερ ἐνέχυρα λύσιμα ἐκ τῆς ἄλλης πολιτείας, ἐὰν ἤ τοὺς θέντας ἡμᾶς ἢ καὶ τοὺς Ρ. 247}: e ΣΟΦΙΣΊΤΗΣ. force, re- ceptivity, in a word, power. Supposing this to be accepted for the nonce, we / δ 3 ‘ \ 5 , 247. τούτοις ἕτερον ἂν chavein. πρὸς μὲν οὖν τούτους a e “- > a / / 248. τοῦτο ἡμῖν ἐνταῦθα μενέτω ξυνομολογηθέν. ΘΕΑΙ. Μένει. « 3, \ a , ΄- HE. Πρὸς δὴ τοὺς ἑτέρους ἴωμεν, τοὺς τῶν εἰδῶν / \ \ Veal ani) Ν \ \ / > , φίλους" συ δ᾽ ἡμῖν καὶ τὰ παρὰ τούτων ἀφερμήνευε. 5 θεμένους ὑμᾶς μηδαμῶς φιλοφρο- Rep. 4, 437 a. 4. Tos τῶν εἰδῶν φίλους] The word εἶδος indicates that the men here spoken of are Socratics, so far at least as the allusion is personal at all. Now they are certainly not Cynics ( Αντισθένειοι καὶ οἱ οὕτως ἀπαίδευτοι), still less Cyrenaics, with whom the only “ essence” was a succession of momentary πάθη. They are Soeratics under an Eleatic or Pythagorean influence. Pro- clus, indeed, (Comment. in Parmen. p. 149) takes it for granted that Plato here al- ludes directly to the Pythago- rean school, whom Aristotle includes with the Platonists amongst the advocates of a “motionless essence,” τῶν τὰς ἀκινήτους οὐσίας λεγόντων, Met. XIV. 4, to91 b. But, besides the word εἶδος, the dialectical features and the way in which γένεσις 18 separated from οὐσία, are inconsistent with this. Four possible suppositions re- main, if we believe the dia- logues to be the work of Plato. The “friends of forms” are either (1) Megarians (since Schleiermacher this has been the most general impression) ; or (2) Plato himself at an earlier stage; or (3) Pla- tonists who have imperfectly understood Plato. The fourth νῆται. hypothesis combines (2) and (3). The theory of Socher, who imagined the ‘Sophist’ to be a Megarian critique of Plato, would make the Megarians, in contradiction to the little which we know of them, to be the advocates of δύναμις, κίνησις and γένεσις. In favour of the first hypothesis, according to which the Megarian philosophers are the εἰδῶν φίλοι, it may be urged that Plato, before writing these dialogues, had stood in a rela- tion of close intimacy with Euclides and the Megarian school, and that this passage is a friendly criticism of views with which he himself had at one time strongly sympathized. The name εἶδος, expressing the object of definition, was a common inheritance of the So- cratics, and the tendency of the Megarians to rest in sharply defined, incommunicable 80- stractions, appears not only in the Sophisms of Eubulides but in the objection of Euclides to comparison, of which, as Plato hints in what follows, the An- tisthenean rejection of predica- tion and definition was but the caricature. As Zeno refuted motion by the movement of thought, so they by dialectic made logic impossible. But on the other hand we have no warrant apart from this pas- sage for supposing that they turn to the lovers of idealforms. Ye distin- guish in your dia- lectic be- tween Be- coming and Being : whereof, ye say, we have bo- dily and sensible partici- pation in the former, but mental and ratioci- native par- ticipation with the latter alone, which is eternal, whereas Becoming is transi- tory and JO 126 SEAI. Ταῦτ᾽ ἐσται. ΠΛΑΤΩ͂ΝΟΣ > jf EE. Deveow, τὴν δὲ οὐσίαν χωρίς που διελόμενοι λέγετε; ἢ yap; ΘΕΑΙ. Ναί. =E K Ν / \ ς ἴω 7] ὃ 5 ᾽ θή mi. αι σώματι μεν ἡμᾶς γενέσει OL αἰσθήσεως rn \ ΄ι \ ΄σ XN Ἂν 3) κοινωνεῖν, διὰ λογισμοῦ δὲ ψυχῇ πρὸς τὴν ὄντως » jf A Sas \ ’ \ ς 7 ΒΥ / ra OUOLAV, Ὧν HEL KATA TAVTA WOAVTWS EXELV φατε, Ve \ » 35) νεσιν δὲ ἄλλοτε ἄλλως. ΘΕΑΙ. Φαμὲν γὰρ οὖν. cH De departed so far from the Ele- atics as to admit a plurality of εἴδη. Euclides said that Being, or the Good, was one, though called by many names. And se- veral points in the description are favourable to the view to which we have seen reason to incline, which differs but slightly from those of Ueber- weg and of Mr. Grote: that Plato, while developing his own theory of knowledge with greater clearness, administers a gentle reproof to some of his own followers, who held tenaciously to a conception of the εἴδη, based on immature statements of his own, and mixed with Eleatic and Pytha- gorean elements. (See the In- troduction to the ‘ Sophist.’) The points which make for this conclusion are the following: —vonta ἄττα καὶ ἀσώματα εἴδη (246 b); σώματι---δὲ αἰσθήσεως κοινωνεῖν ----διὰ λογισμοῦ δὲ ψυχῇ πρὸς τὴν ὄντως οὐσίαν---ἀεὶ κατὰ ταὐτὰ ὡσαύτως ἔχειν (248 Ὁ) ; the words ὦ πάντων ἄριστοι, which might well be aimed at friends and pupils by Plato (ef. y\ \ \ na 3 ΄ y O δὲ δὴ κοινώνειν, ὦ TTAVT@V αριστοι, τι Thezet. 148 b: Ἄριστα γ᾽ ἀνθρώ- Tov, ὦ παῖδες); and ἐγὼ δὲ ἴσως διὰ συνήθειαν, supposing Plato to speak here as if in his own per- son : also ἡμερώτεροι supra. 2. Τένεσιν, τὴν δὲ οὐσίαν] Cf. supr. 221 6: νευστικοῦ μέρους, τὸ δὲ πεζοῦ, and note. This omission of pév, like many other idioms which might ap- pear to be of late growth, is found already full-blown in Homer. 5. σώματι] Dat. of the in- strument, answering to Ψυχῆ in what follows. γενέσει] Dat. after κοινω- νεῖν, answering to πρὸς---οὐσίαν. 7. γένεσιν δὲ] The end of the sentence reverts to the begin- ning, turning out the obverse side of the chief statement, as so often in Plato. 10. To δὲ δὴ kowwvetv] The introduction of this word, which plays an important part in the sequel, should be noticed, as the emergence of a fresh ele- ment in the evolution of the thought. Cf. Gorg. 464 ¢. And see Rep. 6, 490 b. p. 248. b ΣΟΦΙΣΊΤΗΣ. δὴ Tap ἡμῶν ῥηθέν: ΘΕΑΙ. Τὸ ποῖον ; 12 nn? ς ΄ > ad ΄σ- pS) , Ν A 248. τοῦθ᾽ ὑμᾶς ἐπ᾿ ἀμφοῖν λέγειν φῶμεν 3 ap οὐ TO νῦν ὃ ᾽, Ν SE. Παάθημα ἢ ποίημα ἐκ δυναμεώς τινος ἀπὸ τῶν πρὸς ἄλληλα ξυνιόντων γιγνόμενον. Tay οὖν X ἢ 53 / an \ \ A > ͵ \ \ ὦ Θεαίτητε, αὐτῶν τὴν πρὸς TAVTA ATTOKPLOLY OV μεν » ΄ 5 ON \ τ \ / οὐ KaTakovels, ἐγὼ δὲ ἴσως διὰ συνήθειαν. ΘΙΕΑΙ. Ti οὖν δὴ λέγουσι λόγον ; HE. Οὐ συγχωροῦσιν ἡμῖν τὸ νῦν δὴ ῥηθὲν πρὸς Χ a > TOUS γηγενεῖς οὐσίας πέρι. GEAI. Τὸ ποῖον : ==} ε \ y, “ - 57 “ GE. Ikavov ἔθεμεν opov που τῶν ὄντων, ὅταν TO a e an , a “ Ν Ν \ / παρῇ ἡ τοῦ πάσχειν ἢ δρᾷν καὶ πρὸς TO σμικρότατον δύναμις : ΘΙΕΑΙ. Nai. Ἂν Χ a / / “ ’ HE. ΤΙρὸς δὴ ταῦτα rode λέγουσιν, ὅτι γενέσει \ , an 7) Ν σ΄ ᾽ὔ Ἀ μὲν μέτεστι TOU TAO KELV και 7TOLELV δυνάμεως, 7 pos \ > / ΄ » / \ , td , δὲ οὐσίαν τούτων οὐδετέρου τὴν δύναμιν ἁρμόττειν φασίν. I. em ἀμφοῖν] Sec. γενέσεως καὶ οὐσίας. 4. ἐκ δυνάμεώς τινος---γιγνό- μενον] The account of sensation in the Theztetus belongs to the line of thought which is here indicated : only the ‘“ power” is not there inferred from the act—since agent and patient are regarded as having no ex- istence except in act. Theeet. 157 a: οὔτε γὰρ ποιοῦν ἐστί τι πρὶν ἂν τῷ πάσχοντι ξυνέλθῃ, οὔτε πάσχον, πρὶν ἂν τῷ ποιοῦντι. ἡ. διὰ συνήθειαν ἢ If the Stranger is speaking in his own person, these words may naturally enough point to the contemporary Eleatics, 1. 6. the school of Megara. But if Pla- tonists are meant, the author must be supposed to speak from behind the mask; as happens sometimes in the Laws. Cf. Rep. 9, 583. τό. ὅτι yev.— pair] That Be- coming has part in the power of doing and suffering, but that active and passive are qua- lities whose force is wholly inapplicable to being.” The meaning of δυνάμεως here is something between “ power of acting” and “the power that is inherent in action.” 18. τὴν δύναμιν.ὺ The word appears to be used here in a slightly different sense from I ° Ik full of change. Well, fair sirs, but what is this common nature of which ye too speak, under the name of ‘ participa- tion ?’ Shall we explain this by the definition which we just now gave to your oppo- nents, as an active or passive energy arising from some power ? The Stran- ger’s prac- tised ear discerns that from theirserene height they reply with scorn. Be- coming may have part in agency and passivity : but such language is inappli- cable to Being. Without question- ing the propriety of this, we ask a fur- ther ques- tion: * Whether the soul knows, and whether Being is known ?’ On their assenting to this, we persevere : ‘Is there agency, or passivity, or both, in knowing, or in being known ?’ They must of course say, ‘ Nei- ther.’ They will, however, 2 SEO (ἢ = ” port, meaning. 128 ΠΛΑΤΩΝΟΣ ΘΕΑΙ. Οὐκοῦν λέγουσί τι: ΞΕ. Πρὸς 6 γε λεκτέον ἡμῖν ὅτι δεόμεθα παρ᾽ Ρ. 248, 2 > ΄σ 57 / / > m αὐτῶν ἐτι πυθέσθαι σαφέστερον, εἰ προσομολογοῦσι ἃ ‘ \ \ / \ > > / ’, τὴν μὲν ψυχὴν γιγνώσκειν, τὴν δ᾽ οὐσίαν γιγνὼώ- ς σκεσθαι. BEAI. Φασὶ μὴν τοῦτό γε. ἘΠ nba δέ: ἈΝ / a ἈΝ 7 θ HH. Le ὃεὲ; τὸ γιγνώσκειν ἢ TO γιγνώσκεσθαι \ / Ἂ 4 Ὁ > , δ \ \ , φατε ποίημα ἢ πάθος ἢ ἀμφότερον ; ἢ TO μεν πά- A) Ν δὲ fA) 7 ὃ Z 0 / , nua, TO ὃε θατερον ; ἢ παντάπασιν οὐδέτερον οὐ- ͵ i} 7 “ « 3 , 10 δετέρου τούτων μεταλαμβάνειν ; δῆλον ὡς οὐδέτερον > / 5 » / \ a “-“ vy / οὐδετέρου" τἀναντία yap ἂν τοῖς ἔμπροσθεν λέγοιεν. ΘΈΑΙ. Μανθάνω. mE To δὲ ε Ν 7 ΕἸ y lal hey Le O O€ ὡς TO γιγνώσκειν ELTTEP EOTAL ποίειν δυνάμεως immediately preced- ing, and more akin to the common one of “nature,” “im- Cf. Rep. Oy ie Gh 8. ἢ ἀμφότερον] 1. 6. Are the mind and the object of the mind each at once active and passive in knowledge ? Spinoza postulates the acti- vity of mind, cf. Eth. IL. Deff. 3. Explic.: “ Dico potius concep- tum quam perceptionem, quia perceptionis nomen indicare videtur mentem ab objecto pati. At conceptus actionem mentis exprimere videtur.” 13. For τὸ δὲ, or τὸ δέ ye (se. φαῖεν ἂν, cl. pare—av—héyouev supr.), ef. Legg. 3,676 ὁ : ἀφ᾽ οὗ πόλεις T εἰσὶ κιτ.λ., δοκεῖς ἄν ποτε κατανοῆσαι χρόνου πλῆθος ὅσον γέ- γονεν ; Οὔκουν ῥάδιόν γε οὐδαμῶς. Τὸ 8€ γε, ὡς ἄπλετόν τε καὶ ἀμή- Ib. 1, 640: τὸ μὲν yap — ὡς ὀρθὸν ---- ἄρχοντα εἶναι, μανθάνεις. Ib. 5, 735. For the continuation of the in- 3, χανον ἂν εἴη. direct form, οὗ also Thezt. 171d: ἢ καὶ ταύτῃ μάλιστα ἵστα- σθαι [sc. φῶμεν] τὸν λόγον. There is some difficulty about the arrangement of the speakers. Rejecting the read- ing of Stephanus and Hein- dorf, ©. δῆλον --- λέγοιεν. ΚΞ. Μανθάνω τόδε γε, we have to choose between that of the Zurich editors, =. δῆλον ---- λέ- ©. Μανθάνω. Ξ. To δέ ye— (or τὸ δὲ), where the Stranger answers his own ques- tion, as in Legg. 10, 894 a: ἡνικ ἂν τί πάθος ἢ : δῆλον ὡς κιτιὰλ., and that of Stallbaum, ©. Δῆλον----λέγοιεν. Z. Μανθάνω" τὸ δέ ye—, in which, before proceeding further, he accepts Theeetetus’ report of the an- swer of the εἰδῶν φίλοι. The former is more in keeping with Plato’s later manner, and makes the anacoluthon easier. It has, therefore, been retained. 13. TO γιγνώσκειν — πάσχειν] The distinction between the yolev. ΣΟΦΙΣΤΗΣ. 120 Ν / “ 5 / 248. Tl, TO γιγνωσκόμενον ἀναγκαῖον αὖ ξυμβαίνει πά- e \ » 7 \ \ Ν / “- / σχειν. THY οὐσίαν On κατὰ τὸν λόγον τοῦτον γιγνώ- , « Ν lal / > od / σκομένην ὑπὸ τῆς γνώσεως, KAO ὅσον γιγνώσκεται, \ na lal δὰ Ν ᾽ὔ ἃ / κατα τοσοῦτον κινεῖσθαι διὰ TO πάσχειν, ὃ On φαμεν 3 Dy / \ Ν > va οὐκ av γενέσθαι περὶ TO ἠρεμοῦν. ΘΕΑΙ. Ὀρθῶς. mE. Τί δὲ πρὸς Διός; ὡς ἀληθῶς κίνησιν καὶ \ N \ \ ͵ Ὦ ὦ 7 ͵ ζωὴν καὶ ψυχὴν καὶ φρόνησιν 7 ῥᾳδίως πεισθησό- “- la) yy δ ΄- \ δ᾿ ἊΝ μεθα τῷ παντελῶς OVTL μὴ παρεῖναι, μηδὲ ζῇν αὐτὸ δὲ φ ονεῖν. ἀλλὰ. σεμνὸν καὶ ἅγιον. νοῦν οὐκ ἔχον μη ρ 3 2 μ a4 9 Xx 919 tore in this / Ν 5) ἀκίνητον ἑστὸς εἰναι; ΘΕΑΙ. Δεινὸν μέντ᾽ ἄν, ὦ ἕένε, λόγον συγχω- potpev. EE. ᾿Αλλὰ νοῦν μὲν ἔχειν, ζωὴν δὲ μή, φῶμεν ; OEAI. Καὶ πώς; \ a \ / 3) fe » a EE. ᾿Αλλὰ ταῦτα μὲν ἀμφότερα evovT αὐτῷ λέγομεν, οὐ μὴν ἐν ψυχῇ γε φήσομεν αὐτὸ ἔχειν 5 7 αὐτα: active and passive verb, which probably appears here for the first time in Western litera- ture, is used to suggest that knowledge is a movement or process of some kind. Compare the use made of the grammati- cal distinction of ὄνομα and ῥῆμα below, p. 262, and of the singu- lar and plural numbers above, p. 238. 10. σεμνὸν καὶ ἅγιον ͵]͵ There is an allusion to the statues of the gods. Cf. Phedr. (of paintings): ἕστηκε μὲν ὡς (ζῶντα, ἐὰν δ᾽ ἀνέρῃ τι, σεμνῶς πάνυ σιγᾷ. Phileb.24,53d. Tim. 30. These words are wrongly con- nected by some interpreters with νοῦν. (e. g. Hegel, Cousin.) For the thought, compare a striking passage in the Laws, 967 a-e, where it is said that the deepest study of astro- nomy, instead of encouraging the notion of a blind neces- sity, leads directly to the sup- position of a celestial mind or minds: ὑπωπτεύετο τὸ νῦν ὄντως δεδογμένον, ὅσοι τῆς ἀκρι- βείας αὐτῶν ἥπτοντο, ὅπως μήποτ᾽ ἂν ἄψυχα ὄντα οὕτως εἰς ἀκρί- βειαν θαυμαστοῖς λογισμοῖς ἂν ἐχρῆτο, νοῦν μὴ κεκτημένα, Where the same result is reached a posteriori which is here ap- proached a priori. II. eva] “ Exists,” emphatic sense. in the make this hypo- thetical ad- mission, that, if to know is activity, to be known must be passivity. In which case, Being, in so far as it is the object of knowledge, is passive, and there- respect, is not at rest, but in mo- tion. And, the instant we touch on this con- τε ception, there is borne in upon us the convic- tion that Perfect Being can- not be ina 130. ITAATQNOZ > oH δ , state of OEAI. Kai τίν᾽ ἂν ἕτερον ἔχοι τρόπον; mere nega- tive repose, EE. ᾿Αλλὰ δῆτα νοῦν μὲν καὶ ζωὴν καὶ ψυχήν, a sacred ἢ) / Ν ΄ ” ΕΝ « ΄ form ἀκίνητον μέντοι TO παράπαν, ἔμψυχον OV, ἑστάναι; without ΄ ” κα΄ 5. ἍΒ / iieueht, ΘΈΑΙ. Ilavra ἔμοιγε ἄλογα ταῦτ᾽ εἰναι φαίνεται. or life, or — SS / \ ae soul, or 5. ΚΞ}. Καὶ τὸ κινούμενον δὴ καὶ κίνησιν συγχωρη- motion. ΄, cy ἘΠΕ ia TEOV WS ὄντα. there is no A ” thought OEAI. Πῶς δ᾽ OU 5 ithout ¢ -- ' ov ΟΣ 53 ! ’ , Sarees BE. Ξυμβαίνει δ᾽ οὖν, ὦ Θεαίτητε, ἀκινήτων τε ᾿ Thi 5) a \ 5 a hat which OvT@V νοῦν μηδενὶ περὶ μηδενὸς εἶναι μηδαμοῦ. cannot be cy tN 5 cio 10 OHA. Κομιδῇ μεν οὖν. - μααὶ \ aN 5 / x , se SE. Kat μὴν ἐὰν αὖ φερόμενα καὶ κινούμενα motion is Ag aR ED a \ , ANE Aa πάντ᾽ εἶναι συγχωρῶμεν, καὶ τούτῳ τῷ λόγῳ ταῦτον insepara- Ἷ ᾿ ; (ip 573 7 ble from Se = Don V .Ψ thought, Τοῦτο εκ τῶν ὄντων ἐξαιρήσομεν But, on the ΘΕΑΙ. Πῶς = other hand, ἊΝ i 4 aan ᾧ : 7 . ε Ν Ν ἐποσξαν 8.1. ΠΡ To κατὰ TavTa καὶ ὡσαύτως καὶ περὶ τὸ equs δ >, XN lol τι , / 3 yf impossible αὐτὸ δοκεῖ σοι χωρὶς στάσεως γενέσθαι TOT ἂν ; without a 5 a principle ΘΕΑΙ. Οὐδαμώς. of perma- ἘΞ ἢ δὶς y , a ws τ x τῶι ῶο ane EE. Τί δ᾽; ἄνευ τούτων νοῦν καθορᾷς ὄντα ἢ Fest. , x ΄ jin A VEVOLEVOV QV και οποῦυουν 9 1. ἔχοι] “In what other way could Being hold them 1 This sense of ἔχοι is deter- mined by ἔχειν preceding and the accusatives following. 3. ἀκίνητον---ἔμψυχον ὄν] The cogency of this argument is best seen by comparing Pheedr. 245 Ὁ. Legg. 10, 895 b, Ὁ: See also Arist. Eth. Nic. X. 8, of the life of the gods: ἀλλὰ μὴν ζῇν ye πάντες ὑπειλήφαμεν av- τοὺς καὶ ἐνεργεῖν apa’ οὐ γὰρ δὴ καθεύδειν ὥσπερ τὸν ᾿Ἐνδυμίωνα. Metaph. XI. 1072 b: καὶ ζωὴ δέ ye ὑπάρχει’ ἡ yap νοῦ ἐνέργεια ζωή. 5. συγχωρητέον ὡς ὄντα] There appears to be a logical inver- sion in reasoning from “ Being has motion” to “ Motion has Being.” This, like many of Plato’s arguments, had the Organon then existed, would have taken a different form. But his thoughts would have been substantially the same. 8. δ᾽ ctv] “It follows from this, however.” Thetetus is warned to face the consequence of his admission: and this is implied m the adversative δέ. 12. ταὐτὸν τοῦτο] Se. νοῦν. 15. Τὸ κατὰ ταὐτὰ] “ Do you think that permanent unity of condition and mode and sub- ject could ever arise without stability ?” Ρ- 249} b 249. ΣΟΦΙΣΤΗΣ. ΘΕΑΙ. ἭΚκιστα. HE. Καὶ μὴν πρός γε 131 σι κ᾿ , τοῦτον παντὶ λόγῳ μαχε- / a Ἃ > / Ἃ / » a > / τέον, OS ἂν ἐπιστήμην ἢ φρόνησιν ἢ νοῦν ἀφανίζων ἰσχυρίζηται περί τινος ὑπηοῦν. ΘΕΑΙ. Σφόδρα γε. EE. Τῷ δὴ φιλοσόφῳ καὶ ταῦτα μάλιστα τι- Qa a c yf 3 7 \ n / a μῶντι πᾶσα, ὡς ἔοικεν, ἀνάγκη διὰ ταῦτα pNTE τῶν aA ΩΝ Ν \ Ν 7 / \ > « bss ἐν ἢ καὶ Ta πολλα εἴδὴ λεγόντων TO πᾶν ἑστηκὸς » / ca 5 on Ν x , ἀποδέχεσθαι, πον 71Ὲ αὖ TAVTAXKY TO ον Κινουντῶν \ Ν 4 3 , > Ν \ ἊΝ lol / μηδὲ TO παράπαν ἀκούειν, ἀλλὰ κατὰ THY τῶν παί- I. “Hxora] This was one clear result of the argument of the Theetetus. Cf. also Crat. 44. ᾿ 2. πρὸς γε TOVTOV—payeETEOY, ὃς av] Cf. Theet. 265 6 : τοῦτο (τουτου, Ast. conj.) μὴ ἀποδεχώ- μεθα, ὃς ἂν λέγῃ. 3. ὃς ἂν---ἰσχυρίζητα] Not merely because of the value of thought and knowledge, but because such a person stulti- fies himself. This is implied in the form of expression. “He who putting knowledge out of sight yet dogmatizes on any point.” See Theet. 161, Euthyd. 286, alib. ἀφανίζω] Cf. Theet. 151 ἃ. ἀληθὲς ἀφανίσαι, Aristoph. Nub. 972. 6. Τῷ δὴ φιλοσόφῳἨ The sentence is continued as if the verbal notion in φιλοσόφῳ had been expressed. Cf. Theet. 168 b: ἀντὶ φιλοσόφων, μισοῦν- τας τοῦτο τὸ πρᾶγμα. Legg. 10, 886 a: θεογονίαν ---- γενόμενοί τε ὡς--ὡμΐλησαν. η. τῶν ἕν ἢ καὶ τὰ πολλὰ εἴδη λεγόντων] I. 6. The older Elea- tics, or their more recent fol- lowers, the friends of ideas, 5 who have just been described. 10. κατὰ τὴν τῶν παίδων εὔχην] This has been variously inter- preted. Heindorf, following Schleiermacher : “ Secundum votum puerorum, ut immobilia moveantur, optantium.” Stall- baum: “ Videtur respici ad lu- sum quendam puerorum in quo ludentes dicebant, ὅσα ἀκί- νητα, καὶ κεκινημένα εἴη. But the words ὅσα --- κεκινημένα would then be too abruptly introduced. Steinhart, in a note to Miillers German translation of Plato, suggests a new reading: ἀλλὰ κατὰ τὴν τῶν παίδων εὐχὴν, ξυναμφότερα λέγειν τὸ ὄν τε καὶ τὸ πᾶν, καὶ ὅσα ἀκίνητα καὶ κεκινημένα. The pas- sage admits of being so inter- preted, by laying an emphasis on ξυναμφότερα, without any change in the order of the words. ‘ When asked whether Being or the All is at rest or in motion, we must say, like children in their wishes, ‘ Both.’” We may suppose an allusion either to the vagueness and impossibility of the desires of children, who “cry for the moon” (for εὐχή in this sense, 9 = Hence the philoso- pher, with whom thought is the highest being, can listen 10 wholly nei- ther to the advocates of rest nor of motion, but must say with the chil- dren, that “both are best,” when 5 Plel he is de- fining the nature of Being. But he cannot rest there, 132 ΠΛΑΤΩΝΟΣ ᾽ ‘ “ Daca, Ν / \ JA Ν δων εὐχὴν οσὰα ακινῆτα και κεκινήῆμενα TO OV ΤΕ Και Ρ. 249. ! Ν Aa TO πᾶν Evvapporepa λέγειν. ΘΕΑΙ. ᾿Αληθέστατα. EE. Τί οὖν; ap’ οὐκ ἐπιεικῶς ἤδη φαινόμεθα πε- ΘΕΑΙ. Πάνυ μὲν οὖν. / a / Ν A ληφέναι τῷ λόγῳ TO OV; > 3, 5. σ EE. Βαβαὶ μέντ᾽ fav} ἄρα, ὦ Θεαίτητε, ὡς μοι at A 5 A / / Ν » / ΄- δοκοῦμεν νῦν αὐτοῦ γνώσεσθαι πέρι τὴν ἀπορίαν τῆς σκέψεως. ΘΕΑΙ. Πῶς αὖ καὶ τί τοῦτ᾽ εἴρηκας ; — 59) ΄ » > a “ A > \ ᾽ BE. ᾿Ὦ μακάριε, οὐκ ἐννοεῖς ὅτι νῦν ἐσμεν ἐν 3 / “ / Ν > ΄- / / / ἀγνοίᾳ τῇ πλείστῃ περὶ αὐτοῦ, φαινόμεθα δέ τι λέ- « las > ΄ YEW ἡμῖν αὕτοις ; ΘΕΑΙ. Ἐμοὶ γοῦν" ὅπῃ δ᾽ αὖ λελήθαμεν οὕτως 57 > 4 , τρέχοντες. OV TAVU ξυνίημι. οἵ. Rep. 5,540 d: μὴ εὐχὴ δοκῇ εἶναι ὁ λόγος) : or perhaps to some common form of expres- sion in which they desired all things in the universe, moye- able and immoveable,—or, it may be, “sacred and _ pro- fane,” κινητὰ καὶ ἀκίνητα, what may and what may not be touched or stirred. 2. λέγειν] Bodl. λέγει. 7. Βαβαὶ μέντ᾽ tavt ἄρα] ἂν here is probably corrupt: μέν- τοι, which some object to, is quite in point. The only way in which to make anything of ἂν would be to take it, by a rather bold hyperbaton, with the future infinitive: which is out of the question. And it is better to reject ἂν than to read, as Stallbaum suggests, μέντ᾽ av ἄρα. Badham conjectures Βαβαί" ov μεντάρα ὦ Θεαίτητε' ὥς pot δοκοῦμεν νῦν αὐτοῦ γενήσεσθαι περὶ τὴν ἀπορίαν τῆς σκέψεως. But for βαβαί---ὡς δοκοῦμεν, cf. Rep. 2, 361 d, BaBai— φ. T., ὡς ἐρρωμένως κιτιλ. I propose merely to omit ἂν, which has probably crept in from supra a, Δεινὸν μέντ᾽ ἂν, and render, “Ah me! on the contrary, Theztetus, how I fear that we shall only now begin to know the diffi- culty of the question about Being.” 10. Πῶς αὖ καὶ τί τοῦτ᾽ εἴρηκας] The form of this question determines the punctuation of the more frequent form, πῶς τί τοῦτ᾽ εἶπες : not mos; τί τοῦτ᾽ εἶπες ; 14. Ἐμοὶ γοῦν] Sc. φαινόμεθά τι λέγειν. οὕτως ἔχοντες) Sc. ἐν ἀγνοίᾳ τῇ πλείστῃ ὄντες. iZ . 240. 0. 250. ΣΟΦΙΣΤΗΣ. 133 EE. Zkore δὴ σαφέστερον, εἰ ταῦτα viv Evv- ομολογοῦντες δικαίως ἂν ἐπερωτηθεῖμεν ἅπερ αὐτοὶ τότε ἠρωτῶμεν τοὺς λέγοντας εἶναι τὸ πᾶν θερμὸν καὶ ψυχρόν. ΘΕΑΙ. Ποῖα ; ὑπόμνησόν με. 5 ΞΕ. Πάνυ μὲν οὖν: καὶ πειράσομαί γε δρᾷν τοῦτο ἐρωτῶν σὲ καθάπερ ἐκείνους τότε, ἵνα ἅμα τι καὶ προΐωμεν. ΘΕΑΙ. ᾿Ορθώς. EE. Elev δή, κίνησιν καὶ στάσιν ἄρ᾽ οὐκ ἐναν- το τιώτατα λέγεις ἀλλήλοις : ΘΕΑΙ. las γὰρ οὔ: EE. Καὶ μὴν eivai γε ὁμοίως φὴς ἀμφότερα αὐτὰ καὶ ἑκάτερον ; ΘΕΑΙ. Φημὶ γὰρ οὖν. 53 ΄σ 7ὔ BE. ἾΑρα κινεῖσθαι λέγων ἀμφότερα καὶ ἑκάτε- ΤῸ ρον, ὅταν εἶναι συγχωρῇς: ΘΕΑΙ. Ovdapas ; EE. ᾿Αλλ᾽ ἑστάναι σημαίνεις, λέγων αὐτὰ ἀμφό- τερα εἶναι; ΘΕΑΙ. Καὶ ras ; mE ἤν / yf A ΄σ ἈΝ x ΕῚ la a we Lh. βριτοὸν apa TL TAaPA TAVTA TO OV EV Τῇ ψυχῇ 20 1. Σκόπει-- ψυχρόν] “ Con- ἵνα ἅμα τι καὶ προΐωμεν] For this definition is open to the same question with which we assailed the dualists in our pre- vious argu- ment. Motionand rest are opposites. Yet both are, and have part in Being. Being, however, is distinct from both, For when we say, ‘Both are,’ we do not mean that both are in motion, or that both are at rest. Hence Being em- braces both, and both par- take of sider then more completely whether in accepting this con- clusion we do not now deserve to be troubled with the ques- tion which we ourselves asked of those who said that the Universe was Heat and Cold.” 6. δρᾷν τοῦτο] Se. ὑπομνῆ- oat σε. 7. τότε] Supr. 243 6: τί τὸ εἶναι τοῦτο ὑπολάβωμεν ὑμῶν ; πότερον τρίτον K.T.A. “That, while I recal this to your memory, we may advance a step in the argument.” Cf. Rep. 1, 346 a: καὶ, ὦ μακάριε, μὴ παρὰ δόξαν ἀποκρίνου, ἵνα τι καὶ περαίνωμεν. 19. Ἀλλ᾽ ἑστάναι] For this use οἵ ἀλλὰ, cf. Rep. 2, 382 6: ἀλλὰ δεδιὼς τοὺς ἐχθροὺς ψεύ- δοιτο : 22. ἐν τῇ ψυχῇῇ Cf. Rep. 6, 484 Cc: μηδὲν ἐναργὲς ἐν Being. But Being is different from them both, and, in virtue of her own nature, neither rests nor moves. 134 7 ε pee ee | 7, , ‘ , τιθείς, ὡς UT ἐκείνου τὴν TE στάσιν καὶ τὴν κίνησιν p. 250.4) ΠΛΆΤΟΝΟΣ / , Ν > Ν > a Ν Ἁ περιεχομένην συλλαβὼν, καὶ ἀπιδὼν αὐτῶν πρὸς τὴν a > / / “ 3 “ > ΄ ΤῊ" ουσιᾶς KOLVMVIAY, OVUTWS εἰναι 7 POO ELTTES ἀμφο- τερα: OEAI. Κινδυνεύομεν ὡς ἀληθῶς τρίτον ἀπομαν- , , \ yd “ , Ν ΄ 9 τευεσθαί TL TO OV, OTQV κινηῆσιν και στασιν ειναι λέγωμεν. 7 ΄ EE. Οὐκ apa κίνησις καὶ στάσις ἐστὶ ξυναμφό- Ἂν ΒΕ. > sO / / τερον TO OV, ἀλλ᾽ ἕτερον On TL τούτων. OEAI. Ἔοικεν. \ \ « a / 77 Ὧν ἢ, 7 σ EE. Κατὰ τὴν αὑτοῦ φύσιν apa τὸ ὃν οὔτε ἔστη- κεν οὔτε κινεῖται. ΘΕΑΙ. Σχεδόν. a \ Χ ’ὔ 3, / \ SE. Ποῖ δὴ χρὴ τὴν διάνοιαν ἔτι τρέπειν τὸν τῇ Ψυχῇ ἔχοντες παράδειγμα. Theet. 155 Ὁ : ταῦτα δὴ, οἶμαι ὁμολογήματα τρία μάχεται ἐν τῇ ἡμετέρᾳ ψυχῇ. I. ὡς ὑπ᾽ ἐκείνου τήν τε στά- σιν καὶ τὴν κίνησιν περιεχομένην συλλαβών] By deleting the comma after περιεχομένην the syntax is improved; and the inverted order of the words is in keeping with the style of the dialogue. “So then you conceived of Being as a third and distinct kind, under which, as embraced by it, you com- prehended motion and rest, and fixing your attention on their common participation in Being, you thus applied the term ‘ex- istent’ to them both.” 5. ἀπομαντεύεσθαι] 1. 6. This truth of reflection is implied in language. Compare Rep. 6,505 e: ὃ δὴ διώκει πᾶσα ψυχὴ ἀπομαντευομένη τι εἶναι. 8. Οὐκ ἄρα----τούτων] “ Being, then, is not motion and rest taken together, but is distinct from these.” 11. Kara—xweiral] In the spirit of the Parmenides it is shewn that Being, which has just been said to include rest and motion, in its own nature neither rests nor moves. For the position of οὐκ, which is emphatic, cf. Theet. 161 a: ὡς οὐκ av ἔχει οὕτω ταῦτα. The search for Being seems here to be relinquished as hopeless. The thread of argu- ment is not dropt, however ; for it is this absolute sever- ance of Being from rest and motion, after seeming to in- clude them, which suggests the fresh inquiry concerning the nature of difference or negation. ΣΟΦΙΣΤΗΣ. / βαιώσασθαι ; ΘΕΑΙ. ot yap ; 135 , 3 “ ΄ ΄σ : 250. βουλόμενον ἐναργές τι περὶ αὐτοῦ παρ᾽ ἑαυτῷ βε- 5 \ / 3, CL > , EE. Οἶμαι μὲν οὐδαμόσε ἔτι ῥᾷδιον. εἰ yap τι \ an a > -ἦ ΕΝ Ν a c Ν μὴ κινεῖται, πῶς οὐχ ἕστηκεν; ἢ τὸ μηδαμῶς ἑστὸς 5 an > 3 a ὧν VON cuss na ’ Ν , d πῶς Οὐκ QU KLVELTAL : TO δὲ ον ἡμὶν νυν EKTOS TOUT@V 3 7 3 / 3 Ἀ 5 ~ ἀμφοτέρων ἀναπέφανται. ἢ δυνατὸν οὖν τοῦτο ; SEAL. Πάντων μὲν οὖν ἀδυνατώτατον. BE. Τόδε τοίνυν μνησθῆναι δίκαιον ἐπὶ τούτοις. GEAI. Τὸ ποῖον ; [4 ἴω Χ 7 / 3, ΞΕ. Ὅτι τοῦ μὴ ὄντος ἐρωτηθέντες τοὔνομα ἐφ᾽ “ μέμνησαι ; ΘΕΑΙ. Πώς γὰρ οὔ; — a 5 om 2 , A 9 x » ͵ SE. Μῶν οὖν ἐν ἐλαττονί τινι νῦν ἐσμὲν ἀπορίᾳ 15 ἊΝ \ yf περὶ TO OV; / las / ’ , ᾿ / ὅ τί ποτε δεῖ φέρειν, πάσῃ συνεσχόμεθα ἀπορίᾳ, ΘΕΑΙ. Ἐμοὶ μέν, ὦ ξένε, εἰ δυνατὸν εἰπεῖν, ἐν πλείονι φαινόμεθα. SE. Τοῦτο μὲν τοίνυν ἐνταῦθα κείσθω διηπορη- ? 5 Χ NFS 2 , ΔΟὄ \ XN S\N > μένον" ἐπειδὴ δὲ ἐξ ἴσου TO TE ὃν Kal TO μὴ ὃν ἀπο- I. ἐναργές tu] Cf. ἐναργῶς, supr. p. 242 6. map ἑαυτῷ] Cf, Thest. 146 e: λαβεῖν ἱκανῶς παρ᾽ ἐμαυτῷ, and note. 4. ἀναπέφανται] up before us.” “Has risen Cf. Theset. 155 b: ἅττα πότ᾽ ἐστι ταῦτα τὰ ~ φάσματα ἐν τῇ ἡμετέρᾳ ψυχῆ. Supr. 231 Ὁ : ἐν τῷ νῦν λόγῳ παραφανέντι. Meno 85 d: ἀνα- κεκίνηνται αἱ δόξαι αὗται. II. Ὅτι τοῦ μὴ ὄντος] These words are in construction with μέμνησαι. The thing which is “worth taking note of” is not this, but the following remark, for which this prepares the way. 12. συνεσχόμεθα ἀπορίᾳ] Supr. 237-239. Cf. Theet. 165 b, ἐν φρέατι συνεχόμενος, where the metaphor is more distinctly kept in view. 18. φαινόμεθα]! For the el- lipse, cf. Theset. 172 ¢ : Οὐκοῦν σχόλην ἄγομεν, ὦ Σώκρατες. 5. Φαινόμεθα. 19. διηπορημένον͵]; “A diffi- culty clearly stated.” The word occurs in Plato in this technical sense only in the Sophist, Politicus, and Laws. Now it is hard to conceive thatathing which is not at rest is not in motion, or vice versa. Here, therefore, we may take note that we have found the defini- tion of Being not 10 Jess diffi- 20 cult than that of Not-Being. Whence we derive a sort of despairing hope, that if a ray of light is cast on the one perplexity, it may sug- gest a solu- tion for the other. And, if the worst come to the worst, we shall try to steer the bark of our discourse between this Seylla and that Charybdis with as little dis- grace as may be, 136 ITAATQNOZ , “- ᾽ 3 “ δ ρίας μετειλήφατον, νῦν ἐλπὶς ἤδη, καθ᾿ ἅπερ ἂν Pp. 250}: > “ ’, 7 ’ / 7 / αὐτῶν Oarepov εἰτε ἀμυδρότερον εἴτε σαφέστερον ᾽ / \ , “ ᾽ / Ξ Ν ἀναφαίνηται, καὶ θάτερον οὕτως ἀναφαίνεσθαι: καὶ aay 5 ΄, ΩΝ σ᾿ ΄ὔ \ = , ἐὰν αὖ μηδέτερον ἰδεῖν δυνώμεθα, Tov γοῦν λόγον, Ψ Ἂ er 3 ’ , ΄ 5O0TNTEP ἄν οἷοί TE ὦμεν εὐπρεπέστατα, διωσόμεθα 4 > o 4 οὕτως ἀμφοῖν ἅμα. 2. εἴτε ἀμυδρότερον εἴτε σα- φέστερον] The latter is chiefly meant, but the former is in- troduced in accordance with Plato’s wish to omit no aspect of a case. Cf. Rep. 1, 339 b: οὔπω δῆλον οὐδ᾽ εἰ μεγάλη. 5. διωσόμεθα] “We shall fend off our argument from both:” “Steer clear of them,” as between Scylla and Cha- rybdis, or the Symplegades. (Cf. Hom. Od. 12, 219: ἐκτὸς ἔεργε via.) Compare the use of διωθεῖσθαι in Herodotus and in Democr. Fr. Ethic. 20: kal οὐκ ὀλίγας κῆρας ἐν τῷ βίῳ διώσεαι, φθόνον καὶ ζῆλον καὶ dvopevinv. The construction, however, is different here, and has driven the editors to con- jecture — Heindorf διωξόμεθα, Stallbaum διασωσόμεθα, C. F. Hermann διαθησόμεθα. Of these Stallbaum’s correction is the best, although not agreeing well with etmperéorara. But the construction may be de- fended, if we take the words to mean literally “We shall push our argument (vessel) through between them both (or, so as to avoid both at once) with such appearance as we may.” The genitive ἀμφοῖν is then governed by the διὰ in composition. Cf. Polyb. 22. 11, 17 : διωθ. τὰς σαρίσσας διὰ τῶν τρημάτων. 3adham defends the text on slightly different grounds. His note deserves insertion here: “Juxta difficile esse ostendit, id quod est atque id quod non est explicare. Hine auguratur, si quid lucis utrivis horum 81- cunde accedat, fore etiam ut alterum discerni possit: sin ambo in tenebris maneant, quid tum? Disputationem, servabimus, disponemus, per- sequemur ? Imo, ita repelle- mus, ut si quis ex ejus quod non est natura negotium nobis facessit, eundem in eo quod est haud minus sibi contradi- centem efficiamus. Accedit quod cum hoe verbo et hae sententia εὐπρεπέστατα egregié convenit, at non cum con- trarid notione, que conjecturis supra commemoratis inest : parum enim hospitem Eleati- cum Sophistis infensum dece- ret speciosam disputationem promittere.” It may be enough in order to defend our interpre- tation from this last objection to refer the student to Thez- tetus 196 e, where the con- fession of shamelessness is ‘immediately followed by an avowal of the determination to continue the argument, and to infr. 254 d, supr. 241 d, especially the word βιάζεσθαι. The unattainableness of a per- fectly; “ reasoned” method is Ρ. 251 ye 251. ΣΟΦΙΣΤΗΣ. ΘΈΑΙ. Καλῶς. Lor μ-- 4 o , ΄ SE. Λέγωμεν δὴ καθ᾽ ὅν τινά ποτε τρόπον πολ- - > / DSN “ « Δ ’ λοις ονομασι TAVUTOV τοῦτο εκάστοτε τρροσαγορεῦύομεν. ΘΕΑΙ. Οἷον δὴ τί; παράδειγμα εἰπέ. / 3, ᾽ BE. Λέγομεν ἄνθρωπον δή που πόλλ᾽ ἀττα ἐπο- 7. ΄ὔ ͵7ὔ / > “~ Ν \ VOMACOVTES, TA TE KPWUATA ἐπιφέροντες αὐτῷ και τὰ , Yj 7 ? > ec σχήματα καὶ μεγέθη καὶ κακίας Kal ἀρετάς, ἐν οἷς bod ἈΝ id / Ie » / 57 SAN πᾶσι καὶ ἑτέροις μυρίοις οὐ μόνον ἄνθρωπον αὑτὸν 3 , 5 \ Ν 3 Χ Ἄν Ὅν 37 Ν εἰναι φαμέν, ἀλλὰ καὶ ἀγαθὸν καὶ ἕτερα ἄπειρα, καὶ Sy \ \ Ν EEN , “ A “ τάλλα δὴ κατὰ τὸν αὐτὸν λόγον οὕτως ἕν ἕκαστον continually rising up before Plato. 2. πολλοῖς ὀνόμασι ταὐτὸν τοῦτο] This recals the saying of Euclides, that the good was ἕν, πολλοῖς ὀνόμασι καλούμενον, and in so far confirms the impression that the Megarians have been under criticism in what precedes. In this and other expressions they had perhaps implied a “commu- nion” of unity with variety, which was inconsistent with their logical principles. Com- pare also the saying quoted in Republic 6, 505 6, probably from the same source, that TO ἀγαθὸν 15 φρόνησις ἀγαθοῦ, whose authors failed in their attempt to isolate the concep- tion of good. We are now introduced to a new sort of philosophers, who serve (like the δυσχερεῖς of the Philebus) to reduce those just mentioned to the point of ab- surdity, and by a crucial in- stance to bring the question to a clear issue. They are the same who are ridiculed in the Euthydemus, and amongst them Antisthenes is most pro- bably included, whether or not the word ὀψιμαθέσι and the phrase ὑπὸ πενίας τ. τ. φ. kr. are meant to convey a co- vert allusion to him. The passage certainly reads like personal satire. Compare Phi- lebus, pp. 13,14, where a dif- ferent aspect of the same “child- ish puzzle” is described, and contrasted with the dialectical One and Many; as also in Parm.129 ¢,d. See also Phileb. 37 6. Cognate difficulties re- specting Predication are noticed by Aristotle, Phys. I. 2, § 15: οἱ μὲν τὸ ἔστιν ἀφεῖλον, ὥσπερ Λυκόφρων" οἱ δὲ τὴν λέξιν μετερ- ρύθμιζον, ὅτι ὁ ἄνθρωπος οὐ λευ- Kos ἐστιν, ἀλλὰ λελεύκωται"--να μὴ---πολλὰ εἶναι ποιῶσι τὸ ἕν. For ἐσπουδακόσιν infra, ef. supr. 216 b: ἐσπουδακότων. 3. τοῦτο] I. 6. “Anything which happens to be in ques- tion.” Cf. Theet. 199 a: μὴ yap ἔχειν τὴν ἐπιστήμην τούτου οἷόν τε, and note. ΄ A A »” τῶν περὶ τὰς ἔριδας II. b. 3. ) Let us now examine what we mean by giving many names to one thing : as white, tall, good, bad, to man: whereby we afford excellent diversion το to the wits of youth, and of cer- tain an- cient tyros, who, from their po- verty in the having of wisdom, take pride in erying out upon us that we have made the one many and the many one. They will allow us to say that good is good,and manisman: but not that man is good. Such are the refine- ments on which they spend a be- lated en- thusiasm. To omit no aspect of thought on the subject of Being, 7 / > A Ἀ lad » , ὑποθέμενοι πάλιν αὐτὸ πολλὰ καὶ πολλοῖς ονομασι P. 25}}}} λέγομεν. OEAI. ᾿Αληθῆ λέγεις. ΠΛΑΤΩΝΟΣ =B ὍΘ 53 “ ’ ἊΝ “ / pe J. EV VE, οιμαι, τοις TE VEOLS Και τῶν YEPOV~ a ᾿ 7, 7, ΄ »>n 5τῶν τοῖς ὀψιμαθέσι θοίνην παρεσκευάκαμεν᾽ evOus \ ’ Ἀ la yap ἀντιλαβέσθαι παντὶ πρόχειρον ws ἀδύνατον Ta Ἀν ἃ Ν aA \ 95 Ν la / τε πολλὰ ἕν Kal TO Ev πολλὰ εἶναι, καὶ On που χαΐῖ- > In \ ΕἾ κ be ρουσιν οὐκ ἐῶντες ἀγαθὸν λέγειν ἄνθρωπον, ἀλλα τὸ μὲν ἀγαθὸν ἀγαθόν, τὸν δὲ ἄνθρωπον ἄνθρωπον. » A 7, 5 / e > 5 , τιοεντυγχάνεις yap, ὦ Θεαίτητε, ws ἐγῴμαι, πολλάκις Ν “ 3 Ν Sus, IZ > τὰ τοιαῦτα ἐσπουδακοσιν, ἐνίοτε πρεσβυτέροις ἂν- / Ν « Ἁ / al ΄ / θρώποις, καὶ ὑπὸ πενίας τῆς περὶ Ppovnaw κτήσεως \ “ / Ἂς U4 Ν ΄ Ta τοιαῦτα τεθαυμακόσι, καὶ δὴ TL καὶ πάσσοφον / ~ ? SEN > / οἰομένοις TOUT QUTO AVEUPT/KEV AL. ΘΕΑΙ. Πάνυ μὲν οὖν. EB Ἵ , Ν Ω͂ can ε ro 53 omy Sa Va TOWVY προς ATAVTAaS MW ὁ oyos 7 \ / Ἂν 3 7] Ν « lal Ἢ τοὺς πώποτε περὶ οὐσίας καὶ ὁτιοῦν διαλεχθέντας, » δὰ ἊΝ ᾽ὔ Ν Ν Ν + σ Εστὼ καὶ προς TOVTOVS KAL προς τοὺς ἄλλους, οσοις ἔμπροσθεν διειλέγμεθα, τὰ νῦν ὡς ἐν ἐρωτήσει λεχθη-- ΄ we address 20 σομενᾶ. to these, as well as to the rest, the follow- ing ques- tion: Shall we conceive SEAT. Ta ποῖα δή ; ΠῚ Πό ’ Χ 3 , , Ν 4 ea OTEPOV ITE τὴν ουσιᾶν KLYNOELE Και OTAGEL προσάπτωμεν μήτε ἄλλο ἄλλῳ μηδὲν μηδενί, GAN 12. πενίας ---κτήσεως)] Geni- tive of respect: “" Poverty in respect of the possession of knowledge.” The tautology has been objected to, but might be paralleled from many pas- sages in these dialogues. Some passages in the Memorabilia and Symposium of Xenophon make it probable that these words contain a personal allu- sion to Antisthenes. τῆς περὶ τὴν φρόνησιν κτή- σεως] Cf. Polit. 281 6: τῆς περὶ τὰ ἀμφιέσματα γενέσεως. 13. πάσσοφον οἰομένοις] ΟΥ̓ Pheedo go 6 : οἴονται σοφώτατοι γεγονέναι τε καὶ κατανενοηκέναι μόνοι ὅτι οὔτε τῶν πραγμάτων οὐδενὸς οὐδὲν ὑγιὲς οὔτε τῶν λόγων. 18. ἔστω] Se. λεγόμενα, from τὰ---λεχθησόμενα infra. d ΣΟΦΙΣΤΗΣ. 139 « 7 7 / / / 251. ὡς ἄμικτα ὄντα καὶ ἀδύνατον μεταλαμβάνειν ἀλλή- 252. iva > ‘ > rn > c lad / θῶ 3 λων οὕτως αὐτὰ ἐν τοῖς Tap ημῖν λογοῖς τιθώμεν ; Ἃ 7 > SiON 7 « \ > ἢ πάντα εἰς ταὐτὸν ξυνάγωμεν ws δυνατὰ ἐπικοινω- - ᾽ / Ἂ \ / \ \ / / 2 νεῖν aAAnAos ; ἢ τὰ μέν, τὰ δὲ μὴ; Τούτων, ᾧ / ΕΝ Ἁ lal , Θεαίτητε, τί ποτ᾽ ἂν αὐτοὺς προαιρεῖσθαι φήσαιμεν ; 5 ΘΕΑΙ. ᾿Εγὼ μὲν ὑπὲρ αὐτῶν οὐδὲν ἔχω πρὸς A > ,ὔ / 5 » > A » ΄ TQAUTA ἀποκρίνασθαι. Tl OUY OU καθ εν ἀποζκρινο- OV AAS 7 \ / 5 / μενος ἐφ᾽ ἑκάστου Ta ξυμβαίνοντα ἐσκέψω ; mE. Καλῶς λέγεις, καὶ τιθῶμέν γε αὐτοὺς λέγειν, εἰ βούλει, πρῶτον μηδενὶ μηδὲν μηδεμίαν δύναμιν 27 ΄ i EXEL κοινωνίας εἰς μηδέν. 3 a / , οὐκοῦν κίνησίς TE καὶ ’ὔ ΕῚ lal ͵ > / στασις οὐδαμῇ μεθέζετον OVOLAS ; ΘΕΑΙ. Οὐ γὰρ οὖν. Ἐπεὶ / - 27 “ 5 lal 5 / Ἁ mE. Τὸ δέ; ἐσται πότερον αὐτῶν οὐσίας μὴ προσκοινωνοῦν : ΘΕΑΙ. Οὐκ ἔσται. = XN XN / a ? GE. Ταχὺ δὴ ταύτῃ ye τῇ συνομολογίᾳ πάντα I. ἄμικτα ὄντα καὶ ἀδύνατον (sc. ὃν) μεταλαμβάνειν ἀλλήλων] The sentence changes to the impersonal form. ἀδύνατον Bodl. ΔΠ. Οὐδ. ἀδύνατα. 6. ᾿Εγὼ μὲν ---- Καλῶς λέγεις] “Personesic distribuendze: ᾿Εγὼ μὲν---ἀποκρίνασθαι : Ti οὖν----ἐσκέ- Wo: Καλῶς λέγεις : Καὶ τιθῶμέν γ᾽ αὐτοὺς κατιλ. Hic, ut ubique, respondentis partes Thezeteto tribuuntur: sed fraudem fecit librariis initium sermonis καὶ τιθῶμέν ye, qui abruptior illis visus est, non animadvertenti- bus Hospitis verba ex lis que supra dixerat continuari.” Bad- ham. Perhaps: but καὶ τιθῶ- μεν ye x.7.A. seems too abrupt in the rejoinder, and in point of fact it is the Stranger who now proceeds to “give each answer at in succession.” 7. τί οὖν ov] “Suppose you say Yes to each alternative in turn, and see what follows in each several case.” 10. μηδενὶ] Governed by koz- yvovids. ΤΙ. eis μηδέν] “ For any re- sult.” 14. ἔσται πότερον αὐτῶν] “Can either of them be, without par- ticipating in Being ?” 17. Ταχὺ δὴ] Compare Theet. 183 a, where the assertion of absolute relativity is similarly reduced to nothingness (ro & ὡς ἔοικεν, avn, εἰ πάντα κινεῖται, πᾶσα ἀπόκρισις, περὶ ὅτου ἀποκρίνηται, ὁμοίως ὀρθὴ οὕτω τ᾽ ἔχειν φάναι καὶ μὴ οὕτω), and ibid. τότ e. πάντα a av τις εἶναι, ἀνάστατα γέγονεν] 9 a and reason of Being, Motion, Rest, and all other things asin- communi- cable with each other? Or shall we bring all into com- munion indiscrimi- nately? Or, thirdly, shall we say that some have, and others have not, commu- nion ? If we adopt the first hypothesis, Motionand 15 Rest are non-exist- ent, for they have no commu- nion with Being. Thus hayoe is made at once of all the philoso- phieswhich attribute Being to Motion, or to Rest, whether as One or Many. And all theories of compo- sition or division, whether into an in- finite or a fixed num- ber of ele- mental forms, whe- ther the union and partition are con- ceived as alternating or as ever going on together, are equally 140 my / ε "ὕ “ a ‘\ a ἀναστατα γέγονεν, WS EOLKEV, GUA TE TOV TO πᾶν Pp. 252 ΠΛΑΤΏΩΏΝΟΣ ΄ Ν lad « Δ ΄ / i ἂν > ” κινουντῶν και Τῶν WS EV LOTAVT@MVY καὶ OOOL KAT εἴδη Ao \ ὌΨΑ, « , "7 Φ / 3. Ἂς Τὰ OVTA KATA TAVUTA WOAVTWS εχοντα ειναι φασιν αει / \ @ ,ὔ 5 ΄ cf ‘ TTQUVTES γὰρ OUTOL TO γε εἰναι σπροσάσπτοῦυσιν, οι μὲν "ὕ ΄σ / e \ 7 e tf δόντως κινεῖσθαι λέγοντες, οἱ δὲ ὄντως EDTHKOTA εἰναι. ΘΕΑΙ. Κομιδῇ μὲν οὖν. \ \ \ / \ SE. Kai μὴν καὶ ὅσοι τοτὲ μὲν ξυντιθέασι τὰ 7 \ A ΄ ΕΣ > Δ Ν 5 ΓΌΟΝ πᾶντα, τοτὲ δὲ διαιροῦσιν, εἶἰτε εἰς EV καὶ ἐξ ἐνὸς 3, 2 / yf σι / 10 ἄπειρα ELTE εἰς περᾶς EXOVTA OTOLXELA διαιρούμενοι τς ᾽ fy i? « / \ = > 7 καὶ ἐκ τούτων συντιθέντες, ὁμοίως μὲν ἐαν ἐν μέρει a a / « 7 \ Sos ede tf \ τοῦτο τιθῶσι γιγνόμενον, ὁμοίως δὲ καὶ ἐὰν ἀεί, κατὰ 7 7 / Ἂ » / > / y πάντα ταῦτα λέγοιεν ἂν οὐδέν, εἴπερ μηδεμία ἐστι ξύμμιξις. 15 ΘΒΑΙ. Ὀρθῶς. 37 / ΕΝ » ’ SE. Ἔτι τοίνυν ἂν αὐτοὶ πάντων καταγελαστο- δ / € \ an / TaTa μετίοιεν τὸν λόγον οἱ μηδὲν ἐῶντες κοινωνίᾳ , e 7] 7, 7) παθήματος ἑτέρου θάτερον προσαγορεύειν. “ All theories are hopelessly unsettled,” or “swept away.” “The ground is cut away from all.” I. ἅμα τε τῶν] Qu. an le- gend. ra? 2. ὡς ἕν ἱστάντων] Se. τὸ πᾶν. kar εἴδη] “In several ab- stract forms.” 8. Kai μὴν] This sentence refers wholly to Empedocles (cf. ἐν μέρει) and Heraclitus (cf. ἀεί), aS Heindorf justly ob- serves, unless some of the earlier Ionians (6. ο. Anaxime- nes) are included in the words ἐξ ἑνὸς ἄπειρα. 12. κατὰ πάντα ταῦτα] These words resume the preceding clauses εἴτε----συντιθέντες, ὁμοίως “Tn all or any of these modes their theory is nothing worth.” ; 16. Ἔτι τοίνυν] Cf. Euthyd. 303 d: καὶ τόδε ad ἕτερον δημο- τικόν τι καὶ πρᾷον ἐν τοῖς λόγοις" ὁπόταν φῆτε μήτε καλὸν εἶναι μη- δὲν μήτε ἀγαθὸν πρᾶγμα μήτε k.T.A. - τῷ ὄντι ξυρράπτετε τὰ στόματα τῶν ἀνθρώπων---ὗτι δὲ οὐ μόνον τὰ τῶν ἄλλων, ἀλλὰ----καὶ τὰ ὑμέ- τερα αὐτώ K.T.A. αὐτοὶ] The very men who deny predication, with whom we are now conversing, and on whose hypothesis the present argument is built. 17. of μηδὲν ἐῶντες] “ Who forbid us to call anything, be- See, ——— (EL. ὴ “4 252. ο ΣΟΦΙΣΤΗΣ. ΘΕΑΙ. Πῶς; 141 — a 5 , ᾽ ΄, EE. Τῷ τε εἶναί που περὶ πάντα ἀναγκάζονται πε Ν “ (el ef Ν “ > χρῆσθαι καὶ τῷ χωρὶς καὶ τῷ ἄλλων καὶ τῷ καθ CoN XQ / , Ὁ > na 57 SA QUTO Kal μυριοις ἑτέροις, ων AKPATELS OVTES εἴργεσθαι QA Ν / > ΄ / > + / καὶ μὴ συνάπτειν ἐν τοῖς λόγοις οὐκ ἄλλων δέονται 5 lad / Υ Ν / 7 » τῶν ἐξελεγξόντων, ἀλλὰ TO λεγόμενον οἴκοθεν τὸν ΄ὔ Se ate) / By ’ Ν ε πολέμιον καὶ ἐναντιωσόμενον ἔχοντες, ἐντὸς ὑποφθεγ- / eA Ν yx > / / γόμενον ὥσπερ Tov atomov KupuxAca, περιφέροντες SN he QEL TTOPEVOVT AL. cause partaking of some affec- tion from another thing, by the name of that other.” παθ. ἑτ. -- κοιν. τοῦ πάσχειν ὑφ᾽ ἐτ. Cf. supr. 245 a: πάθος τοῦ ἑνὸς ἔχειν. (18.) ἑτέρου is governed by πα- θήματος. Similar language occurs in the passage of the Philebus already cited, p. 13 a: ὅτι mpo- wayopevets ἑτέρῳ, φήσομεν, ὀνόματι. 2. Τῷ τε εἶναί που] Cf. Theet. 157 b, 196 e, 202 a. 3. ἄλλων] Qu. an legend. ἀλλήλων ἵ 4. ὧν ἀκρατεῖς ὄντες εἴργεσθαι καὶ μὴ συνάπτειν ἐν τοῖς λόγοις] ὧν is governed by εἴργεσθαι, but probably also connected by at- traction with ἀκρατεῖς. συν- ἄπτειν is used absolutely. “ So that having no power to re- frain from such expressions, or to banish connexion from their discourse.” 6. ἀλλὰ τὸ λεγόμενον͵] “ But they always carry about their enemy, who haunts them, as the saying is, in their own house, and like the wondrous EKurycles, has a voice within them which mocks every syl- lable they utter.” Compare κοιν. > A 2 , el αὐτὰ, avopola ovTa, Cratyl. 428 ce, where the ac- count of self-deception is like that of self-contradiction here : ὅταν yap μηδὲ σμικρὸν ἀποστατῇ ἀλλ᾽ ἀεὶ παρῇ ὁ ἐξαπατήσων, πῶς Cf. also Gorg. 482 Ὁ: οὔ σοι ὁμολογήσει Καλλικλῆς, ὦ Καλλίκλεις, ἀλλὰ διαφωνήσει ἐν ἅπαντι τῷ βίῳ. 8. τὸν ἄτοπον Ἑὐρυκλέα] (See Aristoph. Vesp. 1014.) Eury- cles was a ventriloquist pro- phet. This passage seems to imply that he made his voice sound as if from within the person consulting him; and this is also suggested by the Scholiast’s absurd gloss on ἄτοπον : Tov μὴ ἑδραῖον ἀλλ᾽ ἀεὶ ἐκτοπίζοντα λέγει. The story told by the Scholiast, that Eu- rycles suffered from having given an offensive response to some one, is probably a mis- taken attempt to explain the connexion between ὥσπερ --- Εὐρύκλεα and οἰκόθεν τὸν πολέ- μιον. is that they have their enemy and their opponent in their own breast, in the shape of a voice, which comes from within them, like the answer of Eury- cles, who used to speak in those ov δεινόν ; The meaning of course undone, if all combi- nation is denied. 3ut the most com- plete dis- comfiture attends the enemies of predication themselves. For they cannot help applying to the subject of their discourse such words as $£16,1 “apart,” “from others,” “by itself,” and have thus an adversary within, who saves our labour by convict- ing them of self-con- tradiction out of their own mouths. But if all things are allowed to have com- munion, Motion will rest and Rest will move. The third case alone remains : that some things enter into combina- tion, and some do not. 142 ITAATQNO2 a / “ / “Ὁ ’ OEAI. Κομιδῇ λέγεις ὁμοιὸν τε καὶ ἀληθές. τὰ ΄ > - , EE. Ti δ᾽, av πάντα ἀλλήλοις ἐῶμεν δύναμιν ἔχειν ἐπικοινωνίας ; ΘΕΑΙ. Τοῦτο μὲν οἷός τε κἀγὼ διαλύειν. 5 WE. [Ids ; ΘΕΑΙ. Ὅτι κίνησίς τε αὐτὴ παντάπασιν ἵσταιτ᾽ Ἂ Ud 3 “ 5 ἂν καὶ στάσις αὖ πάλιν αὐτὴ κινοῖτο, εἴπερ ἐπιγιγνοί- σθὴην ἐπ᾽ ἀλλήλοιν. HE. ᾿Αλλὰ μὴν τοῦτό γέ που ταῖς μεγίσταις το ἀνάγκαις ἀδύνατον, κίνησίν τε ἵστασθαι καὶ στάσιν κινεῖσθαι. BEAT. Las γὰρ οὔ: \ SE. To τρίτον δὴ μόνον λοιπόν. ΘΈΑΙ. Ναί. — Ν Χ o 7 , > “-“ x ΄ 6 EH. Καὶ μὴν ἕν γέ τι τούτων ἀναγκαῖον, ἢ πάντα ΩΝ \ x Ν \ 5 / Ν \ Χ ! ἢ μηδὲν ἢ τὰ μὲν ἐθέλειν, τὰ δὲ μὴ συμμίγνυσθαι. ΘΕΑΙ. Has γὰρ οὔ: XN HE. Καὶ μὴν τά ye δύο ἀδύνατον εὑρέθη. ΘΕΑΙ. Ναί. 20 (ΞΕ. Πᾶς ἄρα ὃ βουλόμενος ὀρθῶς ἀποκρίνεσθαι Ν \ a lal , τὸ λοιπὸν τῶν τριῶν θήσει. ΘΕΑΙ. Κομιδῇ μὲν οὖν. EE. Ὅτε δὴ τὰ μὲν ἐθέλει τοῦτο δρᾷν, τὰ δ᾽ οὔ, who came to him. Cf. Rep. 7, 521 b: οἰκεῖος ὧν καὶ ἔνδον ὁ ham conj. ἐπιμιγνύσθην. But οὗ Phileb. 37 ¢ : δόξῃ μὲν ἐπιγίγνε- τοιοῦτος πόλεμος αὐτούς τε ὄλλυσι καὶ τὴν ἄλλην πόλιν. I. ὅμοίον τε καὶ ἀληθές] “Most true, your image is a very just one.” Cf. Rep. 8,579 d: Παν- τάπασιν, ἔφη, ὁμοιότατά τε καὶ ἀληθέστατα λέγεις. η. ἐπιγιγνοίσθην ἐπ᾿] ἐπιμι- γνοίσθην ἐπ᾿, YZ. Hence Bad- σθον ψεῦδος τε Kat ἀληθές. 9. ταῖς μεγίσταις ἀνάγκαις] For the plur., compare Rep. 5, 458d: ἐρωτικαῖς ἀνάγκαις: and for the whole expression, Tim. 87 d: ov καλὸν ὅλον τὸ ζῶον---- ἀξύμμετρον γὰρ ταῖς μεγίσταις ξυμμετρίαις. Pp. 2529) ἃ ΣΟΦΙΣΤΗΣ. 149 Ἃ - \ / Lg ἃ 7 Ν \ 253. σχεδὸν OLOV TA γραμματα πεπονθοτ᾽ ἂν εἰῆ. Kal yap » U ‘ \ ’ vad Ν ” \ \ ἐκείνων TA μέν ἀναρμοστεῖ που πρὸς ἄλληλα, τὰ δε / Evvapporre: . ΘΕΑΙ. Πῶς δ᾽ οὔ ; EE. Τὰ δέ γε φωνήεντα διαφερόντως τῶν ἄλλων 5 Ὁ Ν \ / / a ” Ν OLOV δεσμὸς διὰ TTQAVT@V KEK @PIKEV, @MOTE AVEV τινος ’ lal > / ε , Ν fas yf Ψ αὐτῶν ἀδυνατον ἁρμόττειν καὶ τῶν ἄλλων ἕτερον δ ETEPO. ΘΕΑΙ. Kai μάλα ye. = an @ 53 « ΄ « / \ =E. Πᾶς οὗν οἶδεν ὁποῖα ὁποίοις δυνατὰ κοινω- la Ἃ γ al tal ,ὔ κω ε fal > , νεῖν, ἢ τέχνης δεῖ TH μέλλοντι δρᾷν ἱκανῶς αὐτὰ ; ΘΕΑΙ. Τέχνης. =E. Ποίας; ΘΕΑΙ. Τῆς γραμματικῆς. ΞΕ. Ti δέ; περὶ τοὺς τῶν ὀξέων καὶ βαρέων > » Ο ε \ \ φθόγγους ap οὐχ οὕτως ; ὁ μὲν τοὺς συγκεραννυ- 1. σχεδὸν οἷον τὰ γράμματα] The example of letters is used to symbolize the nature of the ideas, as in Theet. 202 e (where it is shewn that the simple is known before the complex). Polit. 277, 278 (il- lustration of the argument from example). Rep. 3, 402 (education in μουσική). Phileb. 18 (science determining the infinite). In the Theetetus and Philebus the parallel il- lustration from musical notes is also adduced, as here. 5. Ta δέ ye φωνήεντα---οἷον deopds] In this the vowels symbolize the highest ideas, or eategories, Being, Identity, and Difference. Compare Theet. 107 d: in the image of the aviary, ἐνίας δὲ μόνας διὰ πασῶν ὅπῃ ἂν τύχωσι πετομένας---ὙὙΠΘΓΘ the same thing is intimated, and equally without explana- tion. 7. apudtrew] Neuter verb. 10. Πᾶς οὖν οἶδεν] Compare Crat. 388 d: πᾶς δὲ τέκτων ἢ ὁ τὴν τέχνην ἔχων ; 11. δρᾷν ἱκανῶς aira] This expression has no distinct an- tecedent. But cf. Thext. 207 d (in a similar connexion), δρῶντας αὐτά, and note. The conjectural emendation, ὁρᾷν, is therefore not absolutely re- quired ; though, if such were the true reading, it may easily have been corrupted from δρᾷν supr. 252 e. τό. ὁ---τέχνην ἔχων γιγνώσκειν “Who has the art of discern- ing.” For the inf., cf. Theet. 169 a: ὧν δὴ σὺ πέρι αἰτίαν ἔχεις διαφέρειν. 3 Just as of the letters of the al- phabet some can and others cannot be combined, and the same is true of mu- sical notes. It is also to be ob- served, that the vowels are distin- guished by the power which they have of entering into every combina- tion, and being 15 indispen- sable to all. And as none but the gram- marian can tell which letters, and none but the musi- cian which notes, may or may not be com- bined, so none but the dialec- tician can tell what combina- tions of ideas are possible. 144 ‘ ΄ ᾽ / ' μένους τε Kal μὴ τέχνην ἔχων γιγνώσκειν μουσικὸς, P- 253 jj « \ ‘\ Ν 37 ὁ δὲ μὴ ξυνιεὶς ἄμουσος : ΘΕΑΙ. Οὕτως. ΠΛΑΤΩ͂ΝΟΣ \ “ 3, Χ a \ > SE. Kai κατὰ τῶν ἄλλων δὴ τεχνῶν καὶ ἀτε- ΘΕΑΙ. Πῶς δ᾽ οὔ; al A c / A 5 XVLOV Τοιαυτὰ ευρησομεν ETEPA. ΞΕ. Ti δ᾽; ἐπειδὴ καὶ τὰ γένη πρὸς ἄλληλα \ 5 \ / 27 « / 3? > Ε] κατὰ ταῦυτα μίξεως EXELY ὡμολογήκαμεν, OP οὐ μετ 5 / Ν ΄σ΄ \ ΄σ / ’ ἐπιστήμης τινὸς ἀναγκαῖον διὰ τῶν λόγων πορεύ- \ “-“ ΄σ ιοεσθαι τὸν ὀρθῶς μέλλοντα δείξειν ποῖα ποίοις συμ- σι ΄ ΄- Ν ΄σ 32) 5 / Ν φωνεῖ τῶν γενῶν καὶ ποῖα ἄλληλα οὐ δέχεται; καὶ \ N \ , > , nos 5 , WA δὴ καὶ διὰ πάντων εἰ συνέχοντα Ταῦτ εστιν, WOTE / \ 3 Ἂν ,ὔ 5 r συμμίγνυσθαι δυνατὰ εἶναι ; καὶ πάλιν ἐν ταῖς διαι- 7 > δι “ Ψ “- ,ὔ 3) βέσεσιν, ει Οἱ ολων ETEPA TNS διαιρέσεως αιτιᾶ 9 ΘΕΑΙ. Πῶς γὰρ οὐκ ἐπιστήμης δεῖ, καὶ σχεδόν ye ἴσως τῆς μεγίστης ; 4. τεχνῶν καὶ ἀτεχνιῶν] “Arts and defects οἵ art’—which can only be determined by refer- ence to the standard of the corresponding arts. For the mode of expression, which arises from Plato’s love of complete statement, Hein- dorf well compares Legg. 2, 653 6: οὐκ ἔχειν αἴσθησιν τῶν ἐν ταῖς κινήσεσι τάξεων οὐδὲ ἀτα- ξιῶν, οἷς δὴ ῥυθμὸς ὄνομα καὶ ἁρμονία. Cf. also infr. 262 ο: πρᾶξιν οὐδ᾽ ἀπραξίαν. 4. τὰ γένη] The word γένος is used instead of εἶδος in se- veral places of these dialogues, and also in the Parmenides, Philebus, Timzeus, and Laws. This is one of several points in which there appears a transi- tion in these dialogues towards the language of Aristotle. See esp. Parm. 135 Ὁ : ὡς ἔστι γένος τι ἑκάστου καὶ οὐσία αὐτὴ καθ᾽ αὗ- τήν. Phileb,12e: γένει μέν ἐστι πᾶν ἕν, τὰ δὲ μέρη κιτιλ. It will be observed that the word oc- curs here at the opening of an especially Platonic passage. 8. μίξεως] Gen. of respect. Cf. Rep. 5, 456d: πῶς ἔχεις δόξης τοῦ τοιοῦδε πέρι. Alib. 11. καὶ δὴ----εἶναι] “ And also whether there are any kinds which (like the vowels), being all-pervading, bind together these and make them capable of intermixture.” 12. ταῦτα] Viz. τὰ συμφωνοῦντα τῶν γενῶν. 14. εἰ δ ὅλων---αἴτια] Antici- pating the θατέρου φύσις which is presently discovered, διὰ πάν- τῶν διεληλυθυΐαν, p. 255. 252. d ΣΟΦΙΣΤΗΣ. 145 = 4? S 3 a lal Ss. / aH. Ti οὖν αὖ viv προσεροῦμεν, © Θεαίτητε, , a Ν ἊΝ > Ἢ > Ν lal , TavTnv ; ἢ πρὸς Διὸς ἐλάθομεν εἰς τὴν τῶν ἐλευ- 4 » / ᾽ / / ς θέρων ἐμπεσόντες ἐπιστήμην, καὶ κινδυνεύομεν ζη- an ἣν \ / > Ν Τουνῖτῖες TOV σοφιστὴν 7 POTEPOV ἀνευρηκέναι TOV φιλόσοφον ; OEAI. Πώς λέγεις ; bai \ \ ’ a > BE. To κατὰ γένη διαιρεῖσθαι καὶ μήτε ταὐτὸν 5 cod ᾿ - ’ 7 -“ AY ἐπ A εἶδος ἕτερον ἡγήσασθαι μῆτε ἕτερον ὃν ταὐτὸν μῶν οὐ τῆς διαλεκτικῆς φήσομεν ἐπιστήμης εἶναι; GEAI. Ναί, φήσομεν. EE. Οὐκοῦν 6 γε τοῦτο δυνατὸς δρᾷν μίαν ἰδέαν A ral ΟΝ CQ / , / δια πολλῶν, ἐνὸς ἑκάστου κειμένου χωρίς, παντὴ δια- ’, « a is Ν \ ΘΟ τεταμένην ἱκανῶς διαισθάνεται, καὶ πολλᾶς ἑτέρας > , € Ν la yay / Ν / 5 ἀλλήλων ὑπὸ μιᾶς ἔξωθεν περιεχομενας, καὶ μίαν αὖ δὲ ὅλων πολλῶν ἐν ἑνὶ ξυνημμένην, καὶ πολλὰς 2. τὴν τῶν ἐλευθέρων Al- though the Stranger was not present at the conversation of yesterday, he is made to allude to the description of the philo- sophic life which Socrates had then given. Theet. 172, sqq. Such a failure of the dramatic element could have no place in the Charmides, Protagoras, or Pheedrus, and is rather in the manner of the Laws. 7. μήτε ταὐτὸν εἶδος ἕτερον--- ταὐτὸν] This closely corresponds with the account of dialectic in the Pheedrus, 265 ἃ, e. τι. OvKodv —ériotacbar|“Then surely he who can do this is able clearly to perceive one form pervading many indivi- duals which lie apart, and many forms distinct from one an- other, comprehended from with- out by one, and again, one form U pervading many such wholes, and knit together in a single unity, and many entirely sun- dered and apart. And this is to have the science of discern- ing in each kind wherein things admit of communion, and wherein they do not.” μίαν ἰδέαν διὰ πολλῶν] Com- pare Phileb. τό d, e; Legg. 12, 965 ¢: ἄρ᾽ οὖν ἀκριβεστέρα σκέψις θέα τ᾽ ἂν περὶ ὁτουοῦν ὅτῳ- οὖν γίγνοιτο ἢ τὸ πρὸς μίαν ἰδέαν ἐκ τῶν πολλῶν καὶ ἀνομοίων δυνα- τὸν εἶναι βλέπειν. 12. ἑνὸς ἑκάστου κειμένου χωρίς] Cf. Tim. 83 ὁ : καὶ τὸ μὲν κοινὸν ὄνομα πᾶσι τούτοις ἤ τινες τῶν ἰατρῶν που χόλον ἐπωνόμασαν ἢ καί τις ὧν δυνατὸς εἰς πολλὰ μὲν καὶ ἀνόμοια βλέπειν, ὁρᾷν δ᾽ ἐν αὐτοῖς ἕν γένος ἐνὸν ἄξιον ἐπωνυ- μίας πᾶσι. Pheedr. 265. 15. δ ὅλων πολλῶν] These ο In search- ing for the Sophist we have found the philo- sopher, the “ freeman whom the truth makes free.” For dialectic is his pro- vince, that is, the art by which one form is seen per- vading a scattered multitude, and many distinct forms as contained in one, and again, one 15 form com- bined from many such general forms, and several universals, by the boundaries of defini- tion wholly sundered from all else. This is the knowledge of the com- munionand incommu- nicableness of kinds. In this sphere the philoso- pher is to be sought when his turn shall come, and, like theSophist, he is not easily dis- 146 χωρὶς πάντῃ διωρισμένας. MAATOQNOS a ᾽ 4 e τοῦτο δ᾽ ἐστιν, ἢ TE Ῥ. 253.}}} a “ / , a / ὃ / \ e KOLY@VELY EKAOTA δύναται και O77) PB), LAK PLVELV κατα / > / γένος ἐπίστασθαι. ΘΕΑΙ. Παντάπασι μὲν οὖν. EE. ᾿Αλλὰ μὴν τό γε διαλεκτικὸν οὐκ ἄλλῳ ΄ ε 59, \ “ lal Ν / δώσεις, ὡς ἐγῴμαι, πλὴν τῷ καθαρῶς TE καὶ δικαίως φιλοσοφοῦντι. - ΘΈΑΙ. Πῶς yap av ἄλλῳ δοίη τις ; Υ EE. Τὸν μὲν δὴ φιλόσοφον ἐν τοιούτῳ τινὶ τόπῳ Ν la ἃς yf 3 7 xX lal > ΄σ Ιοκαὶ νυν και €E7TELTA ἀνευρήσομεν, εαν ζητῶμεν, ἰδεῖν Ν a a “ XN / μὲν χαλεπὸν ἐναργῶς καὶ τοῦτον, ἕτερον μὴν τρόπον “ A an 7 σ ΄ ἢ τε τοῦ σοφιστοῦ χαλεπότης ἢ τε TOUTOU. ΘΕΑΙ. Πῶς; ἘΠῊϊ ‘O \ ’ ὃ ὃ ’ ΟῚ \ lat \ yf pay La. μεν ATTOOLOPADK@V εἰς THY TOV μὴ OVTOS 7 ΄σ ΄ aS x ἣν το σκοτεινοτητα, τριβῇ προσαπτομενος αὑτῆς, διὰ TO \ π᾿ ΄ a , 5 , OKOTELVOV TOU TOTTOU κατανοῆσαι χαάλεπος. ω) yap 5 wholes are the ideas just men- tioned, each of which extends to many individuals. Many particulars are comprised in one universal, and many such universals again unite in one. (1 5.) ἐν ἑνὶ] Se. ὅλῳ, or, abso- lutely, “in one.” Cf. Thezt. 157 ἃ: ἐπὶ ἑνός, Legg. 4,718 6: ἐν ἑνὶ περιλαβόντα οἷόν τινι τύπῳ. 6. καθαρῶς] 1.6. Without ad- mixture of unphilosophic ele- ments ; “one who has risen into the region of pure thought.” δικαίως, 1.e. neither ἀναξίως (Rep. 5, 495) hor παρανόμως (Ib. 7, 538, 9). For καθαρῶς, cf. Pheedo 65¢, 67a, b, 69 Ὁ. And for δικαίως, cf. Pheedo 83 a: of δι- καίως φιλομαθεῖς. 10. καὶ ἔπειτα] Viz. In the “ Philosopher,” about the pro- duction of which, however, some doubt is implied in the words ἐὰν (ytGpev. Cf. infr, b: ἂν ἔτι βουλομένοις ἡμῖν 7. From which it may perhaps be in- ferred that Plato deliberately relinquished the task of writ- ing the Philosophus dialogue. 11. ἕτερον μὴν τρόπον] Se. ἐστὶν ΟΥ̓ γίγνεται. 15. τριβῇ] τριβὴ (“ knack,” “rule of thumb,”) is several times opposed even more strongly than ἐμπειρία to knowledge and art, and is pointedly applied in the Phe- drus and Gorgias to the so- phistical rhetoric. Phedr. 260 Θ: οὐκ ἔστι τέχνη, GAN ἄτε- xvos τριβή. Ib. 270 b. Gorg. 463 Ὁ: οὐκ ἔστι τέχνη, ἀλλ᾽ ἐμ- πειρία καὶ τριβῆ. See also Phi- lebus 55 6: τὰς αἰσθήσεις κατα- μελετᾷν ἐμπειρίᾳ καί τινι τριβῇ, Ρ. 254: , 254. ΣΘΦΙΣΤΗ͂Σ. ἼΠοικεν. OEAI. 147 EE. Ὃ δέ ye φιλόσοφος, τῇ Tod ὄντος ἀεὶ διὰ Lo) / > / Ν Ν Ν 53 a λογισμῶν προσκείμενος ἰδέᾳ, διὰ TO λαμπρὸν αὖ τῆς 7 ΕῚ a > \ > ω χώρας οὐδαμῶς εὐπετὴς ὀφθηναι" τὰ γὰρ τῆς τῶν πολλῶν ψυχῆς ὄμματα καρτερεῖν πρὸς τὸ θεῖον ἀφο- a ff ρῶντα ἀδύνατα. ΘΙΕΑΙ. Καὶ ταῦτα εἰκὸς οὐχ ἧττον ἐκείνων οὕτως 2, eXely δ 3 ΄ \ 7 / [4 EE. Οὐκοῦν περὶ μὲν τούτου καὶ τάχα ἐπισκεψό- / ΩΝ 3, 2 tS 3 \ μεθα σαφέστερον, av ἔτι βουλομένοις ἡμῖν ἢ" περὶ δὲ lad a lal e > > / Ν ΕΝ τοῦ σοφιστοῦ που δῆλον ὡς οὐκ ἀνετέον, πρὶν ἂν ε ro ἌΝ / ἱκανῶς αὑτὸν θεασώμεθα. ταῖς τῆς στοχαστικῆς προσχρω- μένους δυνάμεσιν (which are here opposed to the essential elements of art). The word probably retains in this place something of the original sen- suous meaning: the Sophist, from frequent contact, knows how to feel his way in the dark cave in which he lurks. And perhaps it is further hinted that he is the true ma- terialist who gropes by the touch (τριβῇ προσαπτόμενος), and is blind to the light of heaven. 2. διὰ λογισμῶν] “Through reasoning.” Opposed to τριβῇ. Cf. supr. 248 a. 3. προσκείμενος] “ Clinging to.” Cf. Rep. 6, 490 Ὁ : ἀλλ’ ἴοι Kat οὐκ ἀπαμβλύνοιτο οὐδ᾽ ἀπο- λήγοι τοῦ ἔρωτος K.-T.) Ib. 511}: ἵνα μέχρι τοῦ avur οθέτου ἐπὶ τὴν τοῦ παντὸς ἀρχὴν ἰὼν, ἁψάμενος αὐτῆς, πάλιν αὖ ἐχόμενον τῶν ἐκεί- νης ἐχομένων K.T.A. 4. τὰ γὰρ τῆς τῶν πολλῶν] The image of the cave in the Republic will occur to every τ reader. Cf. esp. Rep. 7, 518: διτταὶ καὶ ἀπὸ διττῶν γίγνονται ἐπιταράξεις (1 ἐπιγιγν. ταρ. 1) ὀμ- μάσιν κιτλ. See also the re- markable passage in the Laws, 10, 897 d: μὴ τοίνυν ἐξ ἐναντίας οἷον εἰς ἥλιον ἀποβλέποντες, νύκτα ἐν μεσημβρίᾳ ἐπαγόμενοι, ποιησώ- μεθα τὴν ἀπόκρισιν, ὡς νοῦν ποτε θνητοῖς ὄμμασιν ὀψόμενοί τε καὶ γνωσόμενοι ἱκανῶς κιτιλ. Com- pare with the whole passage Bacon, Advancement of Learn- ing (Ellis and Spedding’s edi- tion), vol. ili. p.286: “Were it not better for a man in a fair room to set up one great light, or branching candlestick of lights, than to go about with a small watch candle into every corner 2” 9. καὶ τάχ] For τάχα = mox, “presently,” cf. Phil. 53e: Τάχα S—paddov μαθησόμεθα προελθόν- τος τοῦ λόγου : 4110. The sub- ject has been already proposed by Socrates, and will be ex- amined presently, as soon as the Sophist and Statesman shall have been defined. 9 ~ σι μι cerned: but for a differ- ent reason. The So- phist lurks amidst the darkness of Not-Being, of which he knows the trick. The philoso- pher clings by the force of reason to the Form of Being, which is ° dark only with the excess of light, and because of the weak- ness of mortal vision. But for the present we must per- severe in our effort to find the Sophist. Tie: Since we are agreed that some kinds ad- mit of com- bination and some do not, and this in various de- grees, while 148 SEAL. Καλῶς εἶπες. ΠΛΑΤΏΝΟΣ σ ? > \ \ \ fee a” a“ e / EE. “Or οὖν δὴ τὰ μὲν ἡμῖν τῶν γενῶν @podo- ΄ > / / \ \ / Ν Ν γηται κοινωνεῖν ἐθέλειν ἀλλήλοις, τὰ δὲ μη, καὶ τὰ ΄ A \ Ν Ν μὲν ἐπ᾽ ὀλίγον, τὰ δ᾽ ἐπὶ πολλά, τὰ δὲ καὶ διὰ / > \ / lol lat / Ν 5 TAVT@V οὐδὲν κωλύειν τοις πᾶάσι κΚεκοινωνῆκεναι, TO \ \ a / cr , ηὃ δὴ μετὰ τοῦτο ξυνεπισπώμεθα τῷ λόγῳ τῇδε σκο- cal \ 7 al ΄σ- 7 \ ποῦντες, μὴ περὶ πάντων τῶν εἰδῶν, ἵνα μὴ ταρατ- ΄ὔ la > \ / Len / τώμεθα ἐν πολλοῖς, ἀλλὰ προελόμενοι τῶν μεγίστων 7 yy lal \ lal v4 , > λεγομένων ΑΤΤΟα. TPWTOV μὲν ποιὰ εκᾶστα EOTLY, 2. "Or οὖν---ὡμολόγηται] Join ὡμολόγηται ἡμῖν. 3. καὶ τὰ μὲν----κεκοινωνηκέναι] This was not distinctly said, but was partly implied in what was said of the vowels, supra Reha. 4. er ὀλίγον] “To a small extent.” ἐπὶ πολλά] “Extending com- munication to many things.” 6. ξυνεπισπώμεθα τῷ λόγῳ] The ideas of Being, rest and motion, which are now chosen for examination, have been suggested by the preceding argument. 7. μὴ περὶ πάντων τῶν εἰδῶν] Cf. Spinoz. Eth. II. 1: Transeo jam ad explicanda que ex Dei sive entis eterni et infiniti essentia necessario debuerunt sequi: non quidem omnia (in- finita enim infinitis modis ex ipsa debere sequi We.). iva μὴ ταραττώμεθα ἐν πολ- λοῖς] A similar reason is ad- duced for the use of the argu- ment from Example in Polit. 278 c: ἡ ψυχὴ --- τὰ μὲν αὐτῶν apy γέ πῃ τῶν συγκράσεων ὀρθῶς δοξάζει, μετατιθέμενα δὲ εἰς τὰς yA / 3 4 “ 37 / ad 10 €TELTA κοινωνίας ἀλλήλων πῶς ἔχει δυνάμεως, ἵνα τῶν πραγμάτων μακρὰς καὶ μὴ ῥᾳδίας συλλαβὰς ταὐτὰ ταῦτα πά- λιν ἀγνοεῖ. The contrast in the text, however, is not be- tween the simplicity of ideas and the complexity of facts, but between the few great ideas and the multiplicity of lesser ones. 8. προελόμενοι] Cf. Parm, 143 Ο: ἐὰν προελώμεθα αὐτῶν εἴτε βούλει τὴν οὐσίαν καὶ τὸ ἕτε- ρον εἴτε τὴν οὐσίαν καὶ τὸ ἕν εἴτε τὸ ἕν καὶ τὸ ἕτερον. Phileb. 45 6, 52 6. 10. δυνάμεως] Gen. of respect, like μίξεως supra. “ How they stand in respect of capacity of intercommunion.” ἵνα τό τε ὄν --- ἀπαλλάττειν “That, even if we cannot grasp with perfect clearness the no- tions of Being and Not-Being, we may at least exhaust the argument respecting them, in so far as the method of the present inquiry permits, and try if in any way we can force the point that Not-Being is really Not-Being, and take no harm.” P: 254} c ΣΟΦΙΣΤΗΣ. 149 / x Ν ἊΣ, τὰν 3 \ , , , 254. τὸ τε ὃν καὶ μὴ ὃν εἰ μὴ πάσῃ σαφηνείᾳ δυνάμεθα λαβεῖν, ἀλλ᾽ οὖν λόγου γε ἐνδεεῖς μηδὲν γιγνώμεθα \ SIAN 5 ὦ ε , ’ / rn A περὶ αὐτῶν, καθ᾽ ὅσον ὁ τρόπος ἐνδέχεται τῆς νῦν 7 aN » φὰς ’ὔ Ν ν ἊἋ σκέψεως, ἐὰν apa ἡμῖν πῃ παρεικαθῃ τὸ μὴ ὃν , «ε Ψ Sy \ ὃ ᾽ > λέγουσιν ws ἐστιν ὄντως μὴ ov ἀθῴοις ἀπαλ- 5 i λαττειν. BEAI. Οὐκοῦν χρή. eS} ᾽ὔὕ \ a “ Δ A Ν fn BE. Μέγιστα μὴν τῶν γενῶν, ἃ νῦν δὴ διῆμεν, , x οὐ ἂν Zz / TO τε OV QUTO καὶ στάσις καὶ κίνησις. ΘΕΑΙ. Πολύ γε. [=| Χ Ν > a > , EE. Καὶ μὴν ro ye δύω φαμὲν αὐτοῖν ἀμίκτω πρὸς ἀλλήλω. ΘΕΑΙ. Σφόδρα γε. Ἂ Ν la \ Ν HE. Τὸ δέ ye ὃν μικτὸν ἀμφοῖν: ἐστὸν γὰρ ἄμφω που. ΘΕΑΙ. [las δ᾽ οὔ: ΞΕ). Τρία δὴ γίγνεται ταῦτα. ΘΕΑΙ. Τί μήν ; — ᾽ An » n oe ΄ \ “-“ oS ’ ΞΕ). Οὐκοῦν αὐτῶν ἕκαστον τοῖν μὲν δυοῖν ἐτερὸν > ONS > e a > y ἐστιν, αὐτὸ δ᾽ ἑαυτῷ ταὐτον. ΘΈΕΑΙ. Οὕτως. 2. λαβεῖν] “To grasp,’—as in λαβεῖν παρ᾽ ἐμαυτῷ, παρὰ σαυ- τῷ, Xe. 3. καθ᾽ ὅσον---σκέψεως] Thus even in the more exact of his dialogues Plato ever complains of an imperfect method. Cf. Rep. 435 d, 506 e, 533 8, Pheedo 85 ¢, Tim. 29 Ὁ. 4. παρεικάθῃ] κασθῆ. 8. ἃ νῦν δὴ διῇμεν] The ante- cedent is found in the following words. ‘The most important kinds are those which we have Bodl. παρει- just been considering.” 14. ἀμφοῖν] Dative. “ Being has admixture with both.” Cf. Legg. 5, 733 d: τίνες οὖν καὶ πόσοι εἰσὶ βίοι, ὧν πέρι δεῖ mpo- ελόμενον ---- ἰδόντα ---- ὧν ὡς οἷόν τ᾽ ἔστιν ἄνθρωπον μακαριώτατα ; Parm. 129. 6: τὰ εἴδη, οἷ ὁμοιότητά τε καὶ ἀνομοιότητα καὶ πλῆθος καὶ τὸ ἕν, καὶ στάσιν καὶ κίνησιν. 19. Οὐκοῦν----ταὐτόν] Compare the very similar manipulation of ideas in Theet. p. 185. οἷον it may be that some enter universally into com- munion with all, let us examine the nature of a few selected kinds, espe- cially with . regard to their power of inter- commu- nion. So we may at least ex- haust the argument about Being and Not-Being, and per- haps find out a way in which Not-Being may be safely de- clared to be Not-Being. Being, Rest, and Motion are 20 the highest kinds. Of these, Rest and Motion are mutu- ally incom- municable, while Being communi- cates with them both. Thus there come to be 150 ἘΠ Tl > 5 a “ > ΄ / jee me Lu. & ΠΤΟΤ QU VUV OUTWS ELPIKALLEV TO TE TAUVTOV Ῥ. 254 ΐ ΠΛΑΤΩΏΝΟΣ ν᾿ la / / / \ » / ΄σ \ καὶ θάτερον ; πότερα Ovo γένη τινε αὐτώ, TOV μὲν o yy / \ > / F > , τριῶν ἄλλω, ξυμμιγνυμένω μὴν ἐκείνοις ἐξ ἀνάγκης OO / Ν Ν / > > > Ν “ « yy ἄει, καὶ περὶ πέντε AAA οὐ ΠΕΡ τριων ὡς οντῶν 5 three. And 5 αὐτῶν σκεπτέον, ἢ τό TE ταὐτὸν τοῦτο καὶ θάτερον each is the same with itself, but other than the remain-. ing two. We have thus men- tioned two ec > / QUTOUS : OEAI. Ἴσως. ὡς ἐκείνων TL προσαγορεύοντες λανθάνομεν ἡμᾶς Ρ. 25: — > > δ, \ / , Wa fy? mE. ᾿Αλλ᾽ ov τι μὴν κίνησίς ye καὶ στάσις οὔθ more kinds, το ἕτερον οὔτε ταὐτόν ἐστι. unless Same or Other can be identi- fied with Being, or Motion, or Rest. But Same and Other are predi- cable both of Rest and ΘΕΑΙ. Ios ; bs Ὅ , a a / / \ = B. TL TEP AV ΚΟινὴ προσείπωμεν KLUNOLW και , A a7 ’ rn er 5 στασιν, Τοῦτο οὐδέτερον QUTOLY οιον TE εἰναι. ΘΕΑΙ. Ti sy; ΄ ΄ ΄ > 7 BE. Kivyois τε στήσεται καὶ στάσις αὖ κινηθη- σεται. I. Τί ποτ᾽ αὖ--- θάτερον] Com- pare the emergence of the ideas of σφόδρα, ἡρέμα and ποσὸν, and their relation to each other, occasioned by the simple words καὶ σφόδρα ye, in Phileb. 24 6. 2. πότερα--- αὐτώ] Se. λεκτέον. unemphatic, resuming ταὐτὸν and θάτερον. 4. καὶ περὶ πέντε] Cf. supr. 2436: δύο κιτ.λ. ὡς évrov] For the posi- tion of ὡς, οἵ. ταὐτὸν ὡς ὄντα a few lines below, and παισὶν ὡς οὖσιν ἡμῖν supY. 242 d. 5. ἢ τό τε ταὐτὸν] “Or in saying Same and Other, are we unconsciously speaking as of one of those former ideas ?” 16. περὶ γὰρ---ἐναντίου] Heind. “ Namalterutrum eorum utrum- vis (sive motus sive status) > ‘\ αὐτῶ, Ν , \ cal 2 δὲ \ καὶ τρία TO πᾶν ἀλλὰ μὴ \ \ 3 ΄ ΄ « a περὶ yap ἀμῴοτερα θάτερον ὁποτερονοῦν quando in utroque inerit (in motu vel statu) alterum coget in contrarlam rursus suze na- turam abire, quoniam hoc alte- rum contrarii particeps factum est.” This is right, and has been wrongly criticised by Badham, who does not appear to see that the second θάτερον must be correlative to the first. But Heind. and Stallb. do not seem to have observed that the case is still general, and is only ap- plied to ταὐτὸν and θάτερον in the next sentence. The argu- ment is this :—Rest and mo- tion cannot be identified either with Same or Other. For if either rest or motion were identified with anything which is predicable of both, motion would rest and rest would move: inasmuch as that (whe- ΣΟΦΙΣΤΗΣ. 151 255. γιγνόμενον αὐτοῖν ἀναγκάσει μεταβάλλειν αὖ θάτερον > > / “ « ΄ / “ " a“ b ἐπὶ τοὐναντίον τῆς αὑτοῦ φύσεως, ATE μετασχὸν τοὺ / ἐναντίου. OEAI. Κομιδῇ γε. Χ 5, ζω / HE. Μετέχετον μὴν ἄμφω ταὐτοῦ καὶ θατέρου. OEAI. Ναί. = \ / / , , OS) 3) ON HE. My τοίνυν λέγωμεν κίνησίν γ᾽ εἰναι ταῦτον x 6 7 δ᾽ > 4 ἢ θάτερον, μηδ αὖ στάσιν. ΘΕΑΙ. Μὴ γάρ. 53 ἊΝ Ἃ Xx > ΙΝ; - mE. ᾿Αλλ᾽ apa τὸ ὃν καὶ τὸ ταὐτὸν ὡς EV TLIO , « nan διανοητέον ἡμῖν 5 ΘΕΑΙ. Ἴσως. 9 > Χ ΄ ΞΕ. ᾿Αλλ᾽ εἰ τὸ ὃν καὶ τὸ ταὐτὸν μηδὲν διάφορον / / 3 7 7 3 f σημαίνετον, κίνησιν av πάλιν Kal στάσιν ἀμῴοτερα 5 , > ΄ “ ΠΝ 2X ε Ε ειναι λέγοντες ἀμφοτερα ουτῶς αὐτὰ TAVTOY ὡς OVTA15 προσεροῦμεν. SEAT, ᾿Αλλὰ μὴν τοῦτό γε ἀδύνατον. μ-ἰ ; 3) ὍΝ Ν XN ΟΝ A 53 =H. ᾿Αδύνατον apa ταῦτον καὶ τὸ ὃν ἕν εἰναι. ΘΈΑΙ. Σχεδόν. Motion, and hence cannot be identified with either. For being identified with one and then predicated of the other, either of them, as the case might be, would cause Mo- tion to be predicated of Rest, or Rest of Motion. And Being and Same- ness are not one: else in say- ing Motion and Rest both are, we should imply that they are both the same. Sameness, HE. Τέταρτον δὴ πρὸς τοῖς τρισὶν εἴδεσιν εἶδος 20 therefore, Χ 3 ἊΝ a τὸ ταῦτον τιθῶμεν ; ther rest or motion) which was so identified with the common predicable, becoming thus pre- dicable of both, will cause the other (whether motion or rest) to be changed, as thus parti- cipating (by the force of predi- cation) in the opposite nature. But sameness and difference are predicable both of motion and rest. Therefore neither mo- tion nor rest can be identified either with sameness or differ- ence. 7. Μὴ τοίνυν] “ Let us not therefore identify Same or Other with motion, nor yet with rest.” Cf. Phedo 103, 4. 13. ’AAN ei — προσεροῦμεν] “ But if the words Being and Sameness have no difference of meaning, then again in saying that motion and rest both are we shall speak of them as being both the same.” 20. εἶδος] Omitted in Bodl. A. II., but probably genuine. The Same is not only separate from the remaining kinds, but is itself to be recognized as a is a fourth kind, dis- tinct from the other three. Nor can Otherness be identi- fied with Being: else there would be an abso- lute Other- ness, as there is an absolute Being. But the Other is always relative to an Other. And so the Other τὸ is to be recognized as a fifth kind. And it is at the same time perceived to extend to all the kinds. For 15 € each of them has now been distin- guished from the 152 ITAATONOZ® SEAL. [avy μὲν οὖν. — / / Ν 3 con / ΞΕ, Ti δέ; τὸ θάτερον apa ἡμῖν λεκτέον πέμ- τ δ ΄σ \ Ν ΕΥ̓ « 7» A > / et ke πτον ; ἢ τοῦτο Kal TO OV ὡς OU aTTa ὀνοματα ep CoN / ἑνὶ γένει διανοεῖσθαι δεῖ ; ΘΈΑΙ. Tay’ ἄν. "καὶ > > 3 lal lad 7 ΞΕ. ᾿Αλλ᾽ οἶμαί σε συγχωρεῖν τῶν ὄντων \ \ > \ > ’ A \ N 7 τὰ μὲν αὐτὰ καθ᾽ αὑτά, τὰ δὲ πρὸς ἀλληλα ἀεὶ λέγεσθαι. OEAI. Τί δ᾽ ov; EE. To δ᾽ ἕτερον ἀεὶ πρὸς ἕτερον. ἦ yap; ΘΕΑΙ. Οὕτως. = 3 327 5) Ν oN Ν Ν 4 \ 4 =&E. Οὐκ ἂν, εἴ ye τὸ ov Kal τὸ θάτερον μὴ Tap- πολυ διεφερέτην᾽ ἀλλ᾽ εἴπερ θάτερον ἀμφοῖν μετεῖχε a 9 A Ψ Ν 5") 3 y , Ny an TOLV εἰδοῖν ὠσπεέερ TO OV, nV QV ΤΟΤΕ TL KAL TOV e σ a “ 7 5 53 TOUTO O TEP ἐστιν εἶναι. distinct kind or form. ἐνάριθμον τῶν πολλῶν ὄντων εἶδος ἕν (infr. 258 c). The Bodleian MS. errs more often by omission than by insertion. The dis- tinction between Being and Sameness is hardly maintained in what follows. 6. ᾿Αλλ᾽ οἶμαι----ἢ γάρ ;| “ Of existences, some are absolute, some correlative: other is al- ways relative to other.” Here absolute and relative are dis- tinct εἴδη, but are only alluded to in passing. (Cf. Phileb. 51: ταῦτα yap οὐκ εἶναι πρός τι καλὰ- ἀλλ᾽ ἀεὶ καλὰ kab’ αὑτά.) 12. Οὐκ ἂν --- εἶναι] “ That could not be if Being and Other were not widely different. If / “ χ TEPWY ETEPOV οὐ 7 pos ἔτερον. ΄ \ > ΄σ Ὁ ΄ νῦν δὲ ἀτεχνῶς ἡμῖν / Ἃ wi 53 / > ee Say, ὅ τί περ ἂν ἕτερον ἢ, συμβέβηκεν ἐξ ἀνάγκης ἑτέρου Other had partaken of both kinds (absolute and relative), as Being does, there would have been a time when some one of the class of Other things were Other otherwise than in rela- tion to Other. But in reality we find that whatever is Other must of necessity be what it is in relation to an Other.” For the gen. ἑτέρου, ef. Rep. 4, 438 e: ὅσα ἐστὶν οἷα εἶναί του, and 439 a: οὐ τούτων θήσει τῶν τινὸς εἶναι ὅπερ ἔστιν. It is ποῦ ob- served that ταὐτὸν is also a relative term (πρός τι). But a thing may be ταὐτὸν in rela- tion to itself, and so not mpos ἕτερον ΟΥ̓ πρὸς ἄλληλα. Cf. Thezt. 185 Ὁ, Ρ. 255} TAS ΣΟΦΙΣΤΗΣ. ] ΘΕΑΙ. Λέγεις καθάπερ ἔχει. HE. Πέμπτον δὴ τὴν θατέρου φύσιν λεκτέον ἐν lal IO. 53 > - 6 τοῖς εἴδεσιν οὖσαν, ἐν οἷς προαιρούμεθα. 256. ΘΈΑΙ. Ναί. Lure! Χ ie \ “-“ SE. Καὶ διὰ πάντων γε αὐτὴν αὐτῶν φήσομεν 5 3 a A “ \ “ 5 A εἰναι διεληλυθυΐαν᾽ ἐν ἕκαστον yap ἕτερον εἶναι TOV 77 A \ « a \ ἄλλων ov διὰ THY αὑτοῦ φύσιν, ἀλλὰ διὰ TO μετέχειν “ 5. 7 a 7 τῆς ἰδέας τῆς θατέρου. ΘΈΑΙ. Κομιδῇ μὲν οὖν. HE. Ὧδε δὴ λέγωμεν ἐπὶ τῶν πέντε καθ᾽ ἕντο 7 ἀναλαμβάνοντες. ΘΕΑΙ. [las ; =D II las \ / e yy ’ bey Se POTOV μὲν κινῆσιν, WS EOTL TAVTATTACLW oS 7 » las / ἕτερον στάσεως. ἢ πῶς λέγωμεν ; ΘΈΑΙ. Οὕτως. ΄ 5 , mE. Ov στάσις ap ἐστίν. ΘΕΑΙ. Οὐδαμῶς. Χ ot BE. Ἔστι δέ ye διὰ τὸ μετέχειν τοῦ ὄντος. ΘΕΑΙ. Ἔστιν. 3. ἐν οἷς προαιρούμεθα] Equi- valent to ἃ mpoap. ἐν is re- peated by attraction from the previous clause. “ Posterius in his ἐν tanquam e precedente syllaba natum expungerem, ni obstaret ejusdem modi exem- plum apud Xenoph. de Vectig. iv.13: Am αὐτῶν μὲν οὖν ἔγωγε, ap ὧν μέλλω λέγειν, οὐδέν τι ἀξιῶ θαυμάζεσθαι ὡς δυσεύρετόν τι ἐξευρηκώς." (Heind.) 10. ἐπὶ τῶν πέντε] These five “chief kinds of Being” are adopted by Plotinus, who, in forming his complex notion of the Highest Truth, prefers them, in combination with the triple οὐσία of the Philebus, to x the categories of Aristotle. Ennead V, b. 1, VI, b. 2. He makes a distinction, which in Plato is hardly present, be- tween a suwmmum genus and a constituent element of absolute Being. 11. ἀναλαμβάνοντες] ““ Resum- ing,” a technical word in Pla- tonic discussion, cf. Thezt. 187 c and note. Perhaps here used more literally, “ taking them up to examine them one by one.” 13. κίνησιν] Se. λέγωμεν. 16. Οὐ στάσις ἄρ᾽ ἐστίν] Here the Other is for the first time seen to be identical with Ne- gation. rest, not by reason of itself, but through participa- tion in the Form of Otherness. Thus, first of all, Mo- tion is Other than Rest : i.e. is not Rest. Yet Motion is, because Motion partakes of Being. Again, Motion is Other than the Same: is not the Same. Yet Motion partakes of Same- ness, and is the same Motion. We must not quarrel with this result, that Motion is the Same and not the Same, for each ex- pression is true, but in a differ- entrespect. Motion is the same with itself 5 through participa- tion in the Form of Sameness, not the Same, through partaking of the Other, whereby it isseparated and be- comes Other than the Form of the Same. Indeed, as we have shewn that in the na- ture of things there must - σι 154 EE. Αὖθις δὴ πάλιν ἡ κίνησις ἕτερον ταὐτοῦ P. 256) > / εστιν. OEAI. Σχεδόν. ΠΛΑΤΩΝΟΣ > ‘\ / =E. Ov ταὐτὸν apa ἐστίν. GEAI. Οὐ yap οὖν. \ " 5 9: iN \ Ν / BE. ᾿Αλλὰ μὴν αὕτη γ᾽ ἦν ταὐτὸν διὰ τὸ μετέ- “- 4, " 5 "σ΄ Xe αὖ TAVT αὑτοῦ. ΘΕΑΙ. Καὶ μάλα. eect \ , \ Sa, 5 Ἀ ΞΕ. Τὴν κίνησιν δὴ ταὐτὸν τ᾽ εἶναι καὶ μὴ SN € Nh Ν > / ιοταῦτὸν ὁμολογητέον καὶ οὐ δυσχεραντέον. οὐ γὰρ “ ΕἸ » \ ΘΙ ΩΝ ἐν Χ > / « / ὁταν εἴπωμεν αὐτὴν ταῦτον καὶ μὴ ταῦτον, ομοιως See 5 ϑυ τε ΄ \ OY \ Ν 4, εἰρήκαμεν, ἀλλ᾽ ὁπόταν μὲν ταὐτόν, dia τὴν μέθεξιν 3. τς Ν ε ᾿Ν oe , “ \ \ » TQUTOUV προς εαὐτὴν οὐτῶ λέγομεν, OTQV δὲ μὴ ταὺυ- , \ Χ 7 53 Υ 3. δὲ ᾽ τὸν, διὰ τὴν κοινωνίαν αὖ θατέρου, Ov ἣν ἀποχωριζο- vA 5 a , > » a » > “ὕ ov μένη ταὐτοῦ γέγονεν οὐκ ἐκεῖνο GAA ἐτερον, ὥστε ᾽ a 3 , , ’ yA ὀρθῶς αὖ λέγεται πάλιν ov ταῦτον. SEAT. Πάνυ μὲν οὖν. » n xX 7 ’ ᾽ Ν 7 HE. Οὐκοῦν κἂν εἴ πῃ μετελάμβανεν αὐτὴ κίνη- I. Αὖθις δὴ πάλιν] “ Again.” Τ. 6. To make a new beginning from the same point, viz. κί- νησις. 7. αὐτοῦ Se. τοῦ ταὐτοῦ. Cf. supr. 254 d, to which ἢν refers. πάντα is therefore re- stricted to being, rest, and motion, as διὰ πάντων---αὐτῶν, p- 255 ἃ, to the five “kinds.” αὖ marks the opposition be- tween the reason now given and the words ἡ κίνησις ἕτερον ταὐτοῦ ἐστίν. 10. οὐ δυσχεραντέον] “We must not quarrel with this contra- diction ;” cf. Theet. 155a: οὐ δυσκολαίνοντες. Gorg. 450 6: ὑπολάβοι ἄν τις, εἰ βούλοιτο δυσ- χεραίνειν ἐν τοῖς λόγοις. οὐ γὰρ --- ὁμοίως εἰρήκαμεν] Cf. Rep. 5, 454 Ὁ: ἐπεσκεψά- μεθα δὲ οὐδ᾽ ὁπηοῦν τί εἶδος τὸ τῆς ἑτέρας τε καὶ τῆς αὐτῆς φύ- σεως καὶ πρὸς τί τεῖνον ὡριζόμεθα τότε κιτιλ. 13. πρὸς ἑαυτὴν οὕτω λέγομεν] “We call it so (the same) in relation to itself.” ὅταν --- ταὐτόν] “ But when we speak of it as not the Same, this is because of the participa- tion in the Other, whereby it is severed from the Same, and has become not that but an Other, so that again it is rightly spoken of as not the Same.” 18. αὐτὴ κίνησι5] Here, and supr. 252 d, distinguished from the πάθημα κινήσεως. It is im- ) ΣΟΦΙΣΤῊΣ. / T POO AYOPEVELY ; 155 OEAI. ᾿Ορθότατά ye, εἴπερ τῶν γενῶν συγχωρη- σόμεθα τὰ μὲν ἀλλήλοις ἐθέλειν μίγνυσθαι, τὰ δὲ μή. = Ν \ > / \ ,ὔ 7 > / GE. Καὶ μὴν ἐπί ye τὴν τούτου πρότερον ἀπό- 5 ΕΥ a a 7 / ε x \ δειξιν ἢ τῶν νῦν ἀφικόμεθα, ἐλέγχοντες ὡς ἔστι κατὰ 7 7 φυσιν ταὐτῃ. ΘΕΑΙ. Las γὰρ οὔ; ie \ 7 BE. Λέγωμεν δὴ πάλιν" ἡ κίνησίς ἐστιν ἕτερον cal if df i? > “-“ > A Ν my τοῦ ἑτέρου, καθάπερ ταὐτοῦ τε ἣν ἄλλο καὶ τῆς το , OTATEDS 5 GEAI. ᾿Αναγκαῖον. = E Οὐ fod EYAL of) 7 OS ὧν μ᾿ 1). υχ €TEPOV Ap ἐστι ΤΉ καὶ €TEPOV νῦν δὴ λόγον. OEAI. ᾿Αληθῆ. δι ἘΣ \ x \ aE. Ti οὖν δὴ τὸ pera a Ψ“ SEN 7, 5 a δὲ τριῶν ἕτερον αὐτὴν φήσομεν εἶναι, τοῦ δὲ d μὴ φῶμεν, ὁμολογήσαντες \ \ Κατὰ TOV A 53 la \ TOUTO 5 apa TOV μὲν 4 τετάρτου YN GF , YG αὐτὰ EVAL πέντε, πέρι ὧν Ny - > , a καὶ ἐν οἷς προυθέμεθα σκοπεῖν : plied that motion does ποῦ partake of rest. Yet there is a tendency in this dialogue to attribute necessity or perma- nence to the idea of motion. 5. Καὶ μὴν ----ταύτῃ] Supr. 252. 9. ἕτερον rod ἑτέρου] In this argument motion appears 77 one and the same expression as other and not other. Cf. Theet. 165 b,c, compared with the preceding argument ; and for a similar refinement on ἕτερον, ib, 189 6, where, how- ever, the contradiction is merely verbal, as in Euthyd. 301. Having made this step, we are prepared to understand x more easily that motion at once is and is not. 14. δή] To be taken, not closely with viv, but with the whole sentence. 16. dpa τῶν μὲν] ap αὐτῶν, the reading of the best MSS., is probably due to αὐτὴν just below. dp’ ov, which Bekker and the Zurich editors ap- prove, is rightly rejected by Stallbaum, who reads ἄρα with seven MSS. 18, αὐτὰ] Se. τὰ γένη. 19. ἐν ois] “ Within the sphere of which.” as in Theet. 152 c: ey τε θερμοῖς καὶ πᾶσι τοῖς τοιούτοις. > εν, 2. ~ , Sat x la 5 / Ho 256. σις στάσεως, οὐδὲν AV ἄτοπον NY στάσιμον αὐτὴν be acom- munion of kinds, we should not be stagger- ed by find- ing that Motion, qua Mo- tion, was stationary, if there were any manner of commu- nion be- tween Mo- tion and Rest. Once more: Motion is Other than the Other, and so Other and not Other at once. 15 And as we have spo- ken of five kinds, there re- mains a fourth to be distin- guished from Mo- tion. Mo- tion is not Being, but partakes of τὸς Being, and soisandis 5 not in the most abso- lute sense. Thus there is found an existence of Not- Being, oc- casioned by the nature of the Other, in the case of Motion, and in that of each of 15 the kinds, Being not excepted. For Being 156 OEAI. MAATQNO2 , Ν Ν a “΄“΄ \ / ἐλάττω Tov ἀριθμὸν τοῦ viv δὴ φανέντος. ἘῊῚ "Ad “- » \ / “ 53 ~ ΨΝ bey Hse EWS apa THY κινῆσιν €TEPOV εἰναι του OV- διαμαχόμενοι λέγωμεν ; ΘΕΑΙ. ᾿Αδεέστατα μὲν οὖν. — > “ \ lal « A > + =E. Οὐκοῦν δὴ σαφῶς ἡ κίνησις ὄντως οὐκ OV > Ay ὧν > / lal A ’ὔ ἐστι Και OV, ἐπείπερ TOV OVTOS μετέχει: ΘΕΑΙ. Σαφεστατά γε. 7 JA 4 Ν \ x 5» / HE. Ἔστιν apa ἐξ ἀνάγκης τὸ μὴ ov ἐπί TE , 5S \ 7, \ / \ / το κινήσεως εἶναι καὶ κατὰ πάντα τὰ γένη. KATH TAVTO Ν ε ’ὔ J Oo 5 ͵ n~ Wy yap ἡ θατέρου φύσις €TEPOV ἀπεργαζομένη του OVTOS σ 5 Ἂ lal “7 \ Ν Ce ἕκαστον οὐκ OV ποιεῖ, καὶ ξύμπαντα δὴ κατα ταῦτα “ 5 + 5 ΄σ 3 a x / “ / οὕτως οὐκ ὄντα ὀρθῶς ἐροῦμεν, καὶ πάλιν, OTL μετέχει “σ᾿, 5 / Sy 7 TOU OVTOS, ELVAL TE και OVTA. ΘΈΑΙ. Κινδυνεύει. σ 77 “ “ Χ , mE. Περὶ ἕκαστον apa τῶν εἰδῶν πολὺ μέν ἐστι ἈΝ 97. + \ ΄ Ν NS TO ov, ἄπειρον δὲ πλήθει TO μὴ OV. 2. φανέντος] “ Which shewed itself.” It is implied that the argument has proceeded, as usual, without the will of the speakers ; 1. 6. has not been developed arbitrarily. 4. Stapaxdpevor] The notion of violence, and of a conflict with the Sophist, implied in βιάζεσθαι and διαμαχητέον, 242 ἃ, is continued here. 9. Ἔστιν ἄρα] 1. 6. What has now been said of motion must be necessarily true of every- thing except the idea of Being. Constr. ἔστι---τὸ μὴ ὃν εἶναι, “Tt is true that that which is not, is,’ “The existence of Not-Being is a fact,” “ not only in the case of motion, but in every kind. For the nature of difference, extending to all, divides each thing from Being, and makes it not-Being, and so in this way we shall be right in saying that all things whatsoever are not-Being, and again because they partake in Being that they are and have being.” ΤΙ. ἡ θατέρου φύσις] For the expression, cf. Parm. 156 6: ἀλλ᾽ ἡ ἐξαίφνης αὕτη φύσις ἄτο- πός τις ἐγκάθηται μεταξὺ τῆς κινή- σεως τε καὶ στάσεως, ἐν χρόνῳ οὐδενὶ οὖσα, καὶ εἰς ταύτην δὴ καὶ ἐκ ταύτης τό τε κινούμενον μετα- βάλλει ἐπὶ τὸ ἑστάναι καὶ τὸ ἑστὸς ἐπὶ τὸ κινεῖσθαι. 17. ἄπειρον δὲ πλήθει τὸ μὴ ὃν] The argument is tacitly car- ried a step in advance. It Kai πῶς : ἀδύνατον yap συγχωρεῖν p. 256..} 257. ἘΘΦΙΞΤΉΗΣ. 157 ΘΕΑΙ. Ἔοικεν. μ- » A SoH ys HE. Οὐκοῦν καὶ τὸ ὃν αὐτὸ 5 7, εἰναι λεκτέον. OEAT. ᾿Ανάγκη. ΩΝ 77 Cain. 7 SE. Καὶ τὸ ov ap ἡμῖν, ὅσα A A » y+ Κατὰ TOOQAUTA Οὐκ εστιν. > cad EKELVA a A a Tov ἄλλων εἐτερον \ 3 Ὁ A \ yap Οὐκ OV ἐν HEV SCLIN + > / \ Ν » \ 3 ᾽ αὐτὸ ἐστιν. ἀπέραντα δὲ τὸν ἀριθμὸν τάλλα οὐκ ΕΣ 5 E€OTLY AU. ΘΕΑΙ. Σχεδὸν οὕτως. HE. Οὐκοῦν δὴ καὶ ταῦτα οὐ δυσχεραντέον, ἐπεί- 10 y / » / e ΄σ a / > περ ἐχει κοινωνίαν ἀλλήλοις ἡ τῶν γενῶν φύσις. εἰ lal \ - « a cal 3 δέ τις ταῦτα μὴ συγχωρεῖ, πείσας ἡμῶν τοῦς ἔμπρο- ῇ . / \ \ “ σθεν λογους οὕτω πειθέτω τὰ μετὰ ταῦτα. ΘΕΑΙ. Δικαιότατα εἴρηκας. ΞΕ. Ἴδωμεν δὴ καὶ τόδε. ΘΕΑΙ. To ποῖον ; — ε , \ Ν᾿ , € y » ἘΞ. Ozorav τὸ μὴ ov λέγωμεν, ὡς ἔοικεν, οὐκ 3 / 7 a 5) » Do Ὁ / ἐναντίον TL λέγομεν τοῦ οντος, ἀλλ ἐτερον μόνον. ΘΕΑΙ. Πῶς; is assumed that the θατέρου φύσις differentiates each thing not only from Being in the abstract, but from every other existing kind except itself: so that it is not each in turn. . ὅσα πέρ -- οὐκ ἔστιν] CF. Theeet. 171 ἃ (where Protagoras is put to silence): ὅσῳ πλείους ois μὴ δοκεῖ ἢ ois δοκεῖ, τοσούτῳ μᾶλλον οὐκ ἔστιν ἢ ἔστιν. 10. καὶ ταῦτα] “ We must not quarrel with this, any more than with the former result.” καὶ refers to οὐ δυσχεραντέον in Ῥ. 256 a. 12. meicas—rovs λόγους] The arguments are half-personi- fied. For the sentiment, com- pare Gorg. 472 b; and for ἡμῶν τοὺς λόγους, SUPY. 239 C: ἀντιλαμβανόμενος ἡμῶν ἀποστρέ- ψει τοὺς λόγους. 13. πειθέτω] Se. ἡμᾶς. By the same means, by which it is shewn that that- which-is-not is, the nature of that-which-is-not is made plain. Not-Being is not the opposite of Being, but only other than Being. This is now further illustrated. According to the preceding argument μὴ ὃν must here include the negation of Being in the abstract and the negation of the several kinds of Being. / > \ »” πέρ ἐστι Ta adda, 5 is Other than every remaining kind, and as once for all itself, but 7s not times with- out num- ber. We must ac- cept these apparent discrepan- cies, since we have as- serted the commu- nion of kinds. And whoever will find fault with us, must first refute that thesis. 158 ΠΛΑΤΩΝΟΣ Ὁ > \ / a BE. Οἷον ὅταν εἴπωμέν τι μὴ μέγα, τότε μᾶλλόν P- 257.) / / κι Ν “Ὁ Ἂς 37 ΄' ΄ τί σοι φαινόμεθα τὸ σμικρὸν ἢ τὸ ἴσον δηλοῦν τῷ Not-Being, 5 then, or negative determina- tion, is not contrary to = a > , > 7 ΄- \ “ ’ὔ Being, or τῶν ἐπιόντων ὀνομάτων, μᾶλλον δὲ τῶν πραγμάτων Cc positive \ “ .) ὯΝ / \ > / - ΄“ determina- “περὶ αττ ἂν κέηται Ta ἐπιφθεγγομενα ὕστερον τῆς tion, but ; τ only differ- 10 ἀσοφάσεως ὀνόματα. ent in each ΄ ι = case froma ΘΈΑΙ. Tavramac: μεν οὖν. particular [— , \ a a positive EE. Tode δὲ διανοηθῶμεν, εἰ καὶ σοὶ ξυνδοκεῖ. determina- \ - aor OEAI. To ποῖον ; ῥήματι; ΘΕΑΙ. Καὶ πώς; — > 37 / “ / ’ὔ ΞΕ. Οὐκ ap’, ἐναντίον ὅταν ἀπόφασις λέγηται 7 r A \ / a σημαίνειν, συγχωρησόμεθα, τοσοῦτον δὲ μόνον, ὅτι a y+ / \ \ Ν \ 327) ») τῶν ἄλλων τι μῆνυει TO μὴ καὶ TO OV προτιθέμενα 2. τῷ ῥήματι] ‘ The expres- sion.” The word is used with exactness = the predicate: not ὀνόματι ΟΥ̓ λόγῳ. 5. ἀπόφασι)] The word oc- curs only in the Soph., Cra- tylus, and Apology of Plato; and in this place signifies not the negative proposition, but the negative particle. 7. τῶν ἄλλων τι μηνύει] Compare Kant, Kritik der cyero γένη, ὅμως δ᾽ ἐπισφραγι- Reinen Vernunft (Leipzig, σθέντα τῷ τοῦ μᾶλλον καὶ ἐναν- | 1853) page ror. Indefinite τίου γένει, ev ἐφάνη. | Judgments :—“ Nun habe ich durch den Satz — die Seele ist nicht sterblich, zwar der logischen form nach wirklich bejaht, indem ich die Seele in den unbeschrainkten Um- fang der nicht Sterblichen Wesen setze. Weil nun von dem ganzen Umfange mogli- cher Wesen das _ Sterbliche einen Theil enthilt, das Nicht sterbende aber den anderen, so ist durch meinen Satz nicht anderes gesagt als dass die Seele eines von der Unendli- chem menge Dinge sei, die librig bleiben wenn ich das Sterbliche insgesammt weg- nehme,” τι. 5. w. The difficulty of conceiving μὴ ὃν as a γένος is parallel to that felt in the Philebus about the ἄπειρον, p. 26 d: καί τοι πολλά γε Kal TO ἄπειρον παρέ- 8. ὀνομάτων, μᾶλλον δὲ τῶν mpayparev| The genitives are governed by τῶν ἄλλων. “The prefixes od and μὴ point to something different from the words which follow them, or rather from the things which the words uttered after the negative import.” 12. Τόδε δὲ διανοηθῶμεν] “ Let us, now, carry our minds through this matter.” ᾿ΣΟΦΙΣΤΗΣ. EE. Ἢ θατέρου μοι φύσις φαίνεται κατακεκερ- 257. / , > , ματίσθαι καθάπερ ἐπιστημη. ΘΕΑΙ. Iles. , \ ͵ BE. Μία μέν ἐστί που καὶ ἐκείνη, τὸ δ᾽ ἐπί τῳ / a o \ » γιγνόμενον μέρος αὐτῆς ἕκαστον ἀφορισθὲν ἐπωνυ- / 3, \ ε a »O/ Χ Ν / > ἃ μίαν ἰσχει τινὰ ἑαυτῆς ἰδίαν: διὸ πολλαὶ τέχναι τ εἰσὶ λεγόμεναι καὶ ἐπιστῆμαι. ry > . Πάνυ μὲν οὖν. ΘΕΑΙ. Πάνυ μ a la ’ HE. Οὐκοῦν καὶ τὰ τῆς θατέρου φύσεως μορια a ἂν a μιᾶς οὔσης ταὐτὸν πέπονθε τοῦτο. ΄’ Co ἊΝ ΘΕΑΙ. Tay’ ἀν’ ἀλλ᾽ ὅπῃ δὴ λέγωμεν ; — ͵ = ~ / / HE. “Hore τῷ καλῷ τι θατέρου μόριον ἀντιτι- ’ θέμενον : SEAT. Ἔστιν. — 3 τ 5 7, oe 7 ey 9 EE. Tour’ οὖν ἀνώνυμον ἐροῦμεν ἢ τιν᾽ ἔχον ἐπω- / νυμίαν 5 ,ὔ ON \ , OEHAI. Ἔχον: ὃ yap μὴ καλὸν ἑκάστοτε φθεγ- 7 a 3 y X a / > x “-“ γόμεθα, τοῦτο οὐκ ἄλλου τινὸς ἕτερον ἐστιν ἢ τῆς A aA ᾽ὔ τοῦ καλοῦ φύσεως. EE. Ἴθι νῦν, τόδε μοι λέγε. ΘΈΑΙ. Τὸ ποῖον ; fj ͵ A HE. “Addo τι τῶν ὄντων τινὸς ἑνός ] γένους I. κατακεκερματίσθαι] For a similar use of this favourite word, cf. Parm. 144 b: (τὸ ἐν) κατακεκερμάτισται ἄρα ὡς οἷόντε σμικρότατα (ἴτ᾽ ἐς σμικρότατα 1) καὶ μέγιστα καὶ πανταχῶς ὄντα. 4. τὸ δ᾽ ἐπί τῳ γιγνόμενον] Cf. Rep. 6, 511 ἃ, 6, for this use of ἐπὶ with the dative. 6. ἑαυτῆς] This is omitted in one MS. (Par. E.), but is to be retained. The gender is πρὸς TO σημαινόμενον, but helped by τέχναι καὶ ἐπιστῆμαι follow- ing. 10. ταὐτὸν---τοῦτο] ἐπωνυμίαν ἰδίαν ἕκαστον ἔχει καὶ πολλά ἐστι. 11. GAN ὅπη δὴ λέγωμεν;]} “But shall we determine how ?” The Bodl. has ἀλλοπῃ sin. ace. 22. ἼΑλλο τι---μὴ καλόν] ἑνὸς, which Hermann retains on the authority of the Bodleian MS., is omitted there as well as in All. The reasoning seems to require that the words should σι Io Otherness or Differ- ence has as many branchesas Knowledge has: each of which is expressed by putting the word ‘not’ be- fore the name of one of the objects of knowledge. Every such expression has a real significance and de- notes all that is dis- tinguished from the object in question. 160 ITAATOQNOZ \ / a 3 5 / ἀφορισθὲν καὶ πρός τι τῶν ὄντων αὖ πάλιν ἀντιτε- p. 257}: \ o 53 \ / Bev οὕτω ξυμβέβηκεν εἶναι TO μὴ καλον 5 ΘΈΑΙ. Οὕτως. EE. “Ovros δὴ πρὸς ὃν [ἡ] ἀντίθεσις, ὡς ἔοικ᾽, ΘΕΑΙ. ᾿Ορθότατα. 3 , / Ν Ν / 5 εἶναί {τι συμβαίνει TO μὴ καλόν. 3 a \ / 3 “ BE. Τί οὖν; κατὰ τοῦτον τὸν λόγον apa μᾶλ- \ Ν Ν δ᾽ κα lad yA - \ Ν λον μὲν τὸ καλὸν ἡμῖν ἐστὶ τῶν ὄντων, ἧττον δὲ τὸ μὴ καλόν; be rendered thus: “ Does not this constitute the existence of the Not-Beautiful?” (ἄλλο τι - οὕτω συμβέβηκεν εἶναι τὸ μὴ καλόν.) “ 1st, that it is parted off (ἀφορισθὲν) as belonging to a certain kind of existences (τινὸς γένους τῶν ὄντων : for the gen., cf. Rep. 4, 438 d); 2nd, that it is set over against something which exists.” A simpler rendering of the words may possibly be right if suffi- cient stress is laid upon εἶναι. “The Not-Beautiful, as distin- guished from a certain kind of existence, and again as op- posed to an existing some- what, has thus an existence of its own.” But the words αὖ πάλιν indicate that the τι τῶν ὄντων is different from the γένος. The former interpreta- tion is confirmed by compar- ing supra 257 ¢ in the cor- responding partition of know- ledge: τὸ δ᾽ ἐπί τῳ γιγνόμενον μέρος αὐτῆς ἕκαστον ἀφορισθέυ---- where ἐπί τῳ γιγνόμενον answers to the genitive here. Accord- ing to this rendering, the read- ing ἑνὸς, although omitted in the Bodleian MS., is not clearly wrong. 4. “Ovtos δὴ πρὸς ὃν --- μὴ καλόν] ἡ is omitted before ἀντίθεσις in Bodl. AU, and has been rejected by Stall- baum and C. F. Hermann: τι after εἶναι is omitted only in Flor. c, i, but can hardly be retained. It was omitted by Stephanus. If ἡ and τι are retained, the words must be construed thus: “Then it re- sults that the opposition of the Not-Beautiful” (ἡ ἀντίθεσις, τὸ μὴ καλὸν, apposition) “is one” (lit. “something,” τι) “between being and being.” Omitting ἡ and τι we should render “ It results then that the notion of ‘not-beautiful’ is an oppo- sition of being to being.” In the use of ἀντίθεσις here, as of οὐσία below (p. 258 b), there is some confusion be- tween abstract and concrete. ἀντίθεσις --- cupBaiver] The Bodl. has ἀντίθεσιν and εἶναί τι. If ἀντίθεσιν is right, συμβαίνει is impersonal. 9. μὴ καλόν] Cf. Parm. 160 b: Ti δ᾽ εἴ τις λέγοι, εἰ μέγεθος μὴ ἔστιν ἢ σμικρότης μὴ ἔστιν ἤ τι ἄλλο τῶν τοιούτων, ἄρ᾽ ἐφ᾽ ἑκάστου ἂν δηλοῖ ὅτι ἕτερόν τι λέγει τὸ μὴ ὄν; 1. 6. that the 257. 258. ΣΟΦΙΣΤΗΣ. ΘΕΑΙ. Οὐδέν. 101 bh ε , oy \ ‘ , κ᾿ \ ΄ NS EE. Ὁμοίως apa τὸ μὴ μέγα καὶ TO μέγα αὐτὸ ΩΣ / εἰναι λεκτέον ; ΘΕΑΙ. Ὁμοίως. — eats \ x \ ͵, a , \ BE. Οὐκοῦν καὶ τὸ μὴ δίκαιον τῷ δικαίῳ κατὰ 5 SX , Χχ \ , A 5 , ταὐτὰ θετέον πρὸς TO μηδέν TL μᾶλλον εἶναι θάτερον θατέρου ; ΘΕΑΙ. Τί μήν; EE. Καὶ τἄλλα δὴ ταύτῃ λέξομεν, ἐπείπερ ἡ θα- / , ’ / a 4 3 » 77 \ ay TEPOU φυσις ἐφάνη τῶν ὄντων οὖσα, ἐκείνης δὲ οὐσης το » 7 \ τς κ 7 x A \ @ yy avaykn δὴ καὶ τὰ μόρια αὐτῆς μηδενὸς ἧττον ὄντα . τιθέναι. ΘΕΑΙ. Πώς yap ov; ΞΕ). Οὐκοῦν, ὡς ἔοικεν, ἡ τῆς θατέρου μορίου φύ- Ν ms a δ Ν 2, 3 / σεως καὶ τῆς τοῦ OVTOS πρὸς ἀλληλα αντικειμένων 15 > J SINNER 3 ΄ 5 a ’ = ey, ἀντίθεσις οὐδὲν ἧττον, εἰ θέμις εἰπεῖν, αὐτοῦ TOU ὄντος thing denied (or negatively predicated) in each case is different. 2. Ὁμοίως ἄρα] “Then the not-great must be said to exist equally with the great.” (αὐτὸ τὸ μέγα.) 5. τῷ δικαίῳ --- θετέονἸ͵ “ Be put in the same category with the just so far as their equally existing is concerned.” For the limitation with πρὸς, cf. Pheedo 75 a: ταὐτὸν yap ἔστιν, ὦ 3., πρός ye ὃ βούλεται δηλῶσαι ὁ λόγος. 14. ἡ---ἀντίθεσι.] The order is ἡ ἀντίθεσις μορίου τῆς θατέρου φύσεως καὶ (μορίου) τῆς τοῦ ὄντος The πρὸς ἄλληλα ἀντικειμένων. rendering οἵ MHeindorf and Stallbaum, “oppositio nature partis alicujus,” is objection- Y able, because the expression θατέρου φύσις has been already appropriated to the Other in general. Besides, the argument does not lead here to the con- trast of Being and all other ideas, but to that between ex- isting things and their nega- tions. The present is simply the generalization of the pre- ceding argument. The mean- ing is, in other words, that negation is, equally with affir- mation, a real determination of thought. τό. εἰ θέμις εἰπεῖν]! Another expression of the awe in which the idea of Being was held (on which vid. supra p. 243 ¢) ; also marking anew the reluc- tance with which the authority of Parmenides is impugned. Thus each of the parts of Other has a real existence, and the opposition between the several parts of Being and Other is also Being. And such negative determina- tions are the Not- Being, of which we have been so long in search, Therefore, as Being includes all 19 EXOV, ὦ true deter- minations of thought, Not-Being is a kind of Being. 162 IMTAATOQNOZ > / ᾽ / > > 7, > / / > ‘ ουσια εστιν, οὐκ εναντίον EKELY® σημαινουσα, ἀλλὰ a / a » / TOOOUTOV μόνον, €TEPOV εκεινοῦυ. OEAI. Σαφέστατά γε. Ee ip: 5 Se (Ἃ 7 ei. 1ἰτἰν οὖν αὐτὴν προσείπωμεν ; ΘΕΑΙ. Δῆλον ὅτι τὸ μὴ ὄν, ὃ διὰ τὸν σοφιστὴν » al > F353 ΄σ ἐζητοῦμεν, αὐτὸ ἐστι TOUTO. mE II / 3 “ 53 y > Ν rad i τὴς OTEPOV OVY, ὥσπερ ELTTES, ἐστιν οὐδενὸς TOV » 5 / i} las “ 7 ἄλλων οὐσίας ἐλλειπόμενον, καὶ δεῖ θαρροῦντα ἤδη / v4 Ν Wr) 37 Ν « val / λέγειν ὅτι TO μὴ ὃν βεβαίως ἔστι, THY αὑτοῦ φύσιν 5) “ \ 7΄ὕ 5 ,ὕ N Ν Ν 5 Ν σπερ TO μέγα ὴν μέγα καὶ TO καλον ἣν καλον Ν XN \ / * \ 7 % Ν \ \ Ν ΕἾ \ καὶ τὸ μὴ μέγα *{ un μέγα] Ἐ καὶ τὸ μὴ καλὸν “μὴ κα- / Me “ \ N Ν \ x‘ ἊΝ 4: 5 Ν λον)“, οὕτω δὲ καὶ τὸ μὴ ὃν κατὰ ταὐτὸν ἦν τε καὶ » Ν + > 7 a rn 57 Ἅ) ee ἐστι μὴ OV, ἐναριθμον τῶν πολλῶν ὄντων Eldos EV; 37 yy Ν » ’ 5 Θ / 5 ’ ay 2 Ἢ τινὰ ETL 7 pos QUTO, ὦ EQITNTE, ATLOTLAV EXOMEV 3 ΘΈΑΙ. Οὐδεμίαν. 8. οὐσίας ἐλλειπόμενον) οὐσίας is not exactly a genitive of re- spect, but depends on ἐλλείπ. in the same construction as the second genitive in such expressions aS κλύω σου φώνης —Oavpato σου τῆς διανοίας. 9. βεβαίως] ““ Incontrover- tibly.” ἔστι, τὴν] Edd. ἐστὶ τὴν. I have changed the accentua- tion of ἐστι, which does not seem here to be merely an auxiliary verb with ἔχον. ΤΙ, καὶ τὸ μὴ μέγα] The edi- tors have followed Boeckh in repeating μὴ μέγα and μὴ καλόν. This is possibly right, but not necessary, for the sense is easily completed by supplying ἦν, Which is the emphatic word. 12. ἦν τε καὶ ἔστι] He passes from the ἢν of reference (“ We found it to be so”) to that of certainty (“It proves to be so”). ἔστι is introduced as more plainly contradicting Parmenides. 13. ἐνάριθμον --- εἶδος ἕν] CF. Parm. 160 ¢. It is to be noticed here that while the notion of Not-Being is modified, there is a transi- tion also in that of Being. Through communion with Not- Being, i. e. with the Other or Difference, both in general and particular, Beg has become concrete instead of merely ab- stract, logical instead of purely ideal. Being is the sum of all positive existences, at the same time having an existence separate from them (Other than their’s). Socher observed this, but had not perceived the dialectical progress by which this result is approached. p- 258 c 258. d ΣΟΦΙΣΤΗΣ. 109 ΞΕ. Οἷσθ᾽ οὖν ὅτι Παρμενίδῃ μακροτέρως τῆς We have ἀπορρήσεως ἠπιστήκαμεν ; OEAI. Τί δή; -- “- \ 3 “- 3 va vas e “ > X mE. Τ] λεῖον ἢ ᾽κεῖνος ἀπεῖπε σκοπεῖν, ἡμεῖς εἰς TO f 6 3) ᾧ / 5 ὃ / > an 7 poo εν ETL QNTNOQAVTES ATE εἰξαμεν αὐτῷ. OEAI. [as ; σ EE. Ὅτι ὁ μέν πού φησιν, 3 A ’ (πὸ υ) ᾿ la) ™ A at? ov γὰρ Ky ποτε TOUT tovdaunt εἰναι μή εοντα, ἀλλὰ σὺ THO ἀφ᾽ ὁδοῦ διζήσιος εἶργε νόημα. ΘΕΑΙ. Λέγει γὰρ οὖν οὕτως. μ-ἰ ε lal / » Ud yx \ NGS 97; mE. Ἥμεϊς δέ ye ov μόνον ws ἔστι τὰ μὴ ὄντα not only disobeyed Parmeni- des, but have de- fined the Nature of 5 that which he forbade us to name, Theessence of Not- Being is the nega- tive rela- tion be- tween each existing kind and that which is Other 9 l& \ SD ἃ ΄ 5) SS NTE ἀπεδείξαμεν, ἀλλὰ Kal TO εἰδος ὃ τυγχάνει OV TOU μὴ *hanit. ὄντος ἀπεφηνάμεθα: τὴν γὰρ θατέρου φύσιν ἀποδεί- QL N 7, 5 ΄ ἕαντες ουσαν TE Και κατακεκερματισμέενηὴν ἐπὶ σαντα Ἂ » δ 27 Ν XN Non σ“ 7 τὰ οντὰα πρὸς aAAANAG, τὸ πρὸς TO OV ἐεκαστον μοριον 15 » “- ΕῚ /, 9 7 » “ «ες 5 \ αὑτῆς ἀντιτιθέμενον ἐτολμήσαμεν εἰπεῖν ὡς αὐτο a fr» 4 \ Y TOUTO ἐστιν OVTMS TO fy OV. GEAI. Kal παντάπασί ye, ὦ Eve, ἀληθέστατά a ’ μοι δοκοῦμεν εἰρηκέναι. = N 7 "Ge 3) “ » , an HE. My τοίνυν ἡμᾶς εἴπῃ τις ὅτι τοὐναντίον TOU 20 I. μακροτέρως τῆς ἀπορρήσεως] I. 6. ἢ ἀπεῖπεν ἡμῖν. 2. ἠπιστήκαμεν͵] The use of this word immediately after ἀπιστία, in a different sense, deserves to be noted. “We have carried our disobedience to Parmenides beyond the let- ter of his prohibition.” 8. Τοὐδαμῃ 7] I propose to read τοῦτο φανῇ here, as above, Ῥ- 237 ἃ, 9. v. διζήμενος occurs here also as a various reading, but it does not seem impos- sible that Plato should choose Y to quote the words of Parme- nides more exactly in one place than in another. 14. κατακεκερματισμένην | Plato is fond of this word. For a parallel use, cf. Parm. 144 ¢. 15. τὸ πρὸς --- ἀντιτιθέμενον | Join τὸ ὃν ἕκαστον, for which ef Rep. 5, 480: αὐτὸ ἕκαστον τὸ ὄν. Cratyl. 389 ὁ: εἰς τὸ ἔργον ἕκαστον. Compare also τῶν ὄντων ἑκάστου ὅλου in Theet. 174 ἃ. 20. Μὴ---οὐκ ἔστιν] ‘“ Let no man, then, say of us that we 9) a 104 ΠΛΑΤΩΏΝΟΣ »” \ ‘\ Ἃ » / ΄σ / « ; ὄντος TO μὴ ὃν ἀποφαινόμενοι τολμῶμεν Eye ὡς p. 458: ΕΒ ¢ lal \ Ν \ > / \ > ~ / ἐστιν. NMELS γὰρ πέρι μεν EVAVTLOV τινος αὐτῷ χαι- ’ / Vat ἊΨ "7 / , 5 Ἂ pew πάλαι λέγομεν, εἰτ᾽ ἐστιν εἰτε μὴ, λόγον EXOV ἢ Ὗ ΄ oy] A \ cal Sh σῷ 39. \ καὶ παντάπασιν ἄλογον. ὃ δὲ νῦν εἰρήκαμεν εἰναι TO XN SA Δ iy € > an / 5 [2 5μὴ OV, ἢ πεισάτω τις ὡς οὐ καλῶς λέγομεν ἐλέγξας, Ἂ , Ἃ 7) lal Ἀ / X= / θά 7) μέχρι TEp αν a VVAT)), EKTEOV και EKELV@D Ka απτερ ἡμεῖς λεγομεν, ὅτι συμμίγνυταί τε ἀλλήλοις τὰ γένῃ δ \ / / καὶ TO τε OV καὶ θάτερον διὰ πάντων καὶ δὲ ἀλλή - / XN \ -“ \ lal yy λων διεληλυθότα τὸ μεν ETEPOY μετασχὸν TOU OVTOS yy A \\ / Ν / > ‘\ 5 oe oh IO€GTL μὲν OLA ταυτὴν τὴν μέθεξιν, οὐ μὴν EKELVO YE -“ » 5 Sac, “ \ a WS wy 4 οὗ μετέσχεν ἀλλ᾽ ἕτερον, ἔτερον δὲ τοῦ ὄντος OV, ἐστι ΄ὕ 5 9 7 5 \ yx. κ ἌΣ > σαφέστατα ἐξ ἀνάγκης εἶναι μὴ ov’ τὸ δὲ ὃν αὖ declare Not-Being the contrary of Being, and dare to affirm that it exists. We have long ago shaken hands with the question of an opposite to being, whether one exists or not, and whether this be capable or wholly incapable of definition. But for our pre- sent account of Not-Being, let a man either refute us and persuade us that we are in error, or, so long as he cannot, he too must say as we Say, that there is an inter-commu- nion of the kinds, and that Being and Difference traverse all things, and mutually inter- penetrate, so that the other partakes of being, and by rea- son of such participation 1s, yet is not that of which it partakes, but an Other: and being Other than Being, it is clearly the case, of necessity, that it is not-Being. While Being, through partaking of the Other, must be other than the remaining kinds, and as other than all, 7s not each one of them, and is not all the rest, but itself only ; so that there are infinite cases in which Being again is not, and in like manner the remaining kinds, whether taken severally or all together, in many respects are, and in many respects are not.” Cf. Legg. το, 899 ¢: Ἤ διδά- σκειν ἡμᾶς -- ἢ ἡμῖν πείθεσθαι. Being is therefore distinguished from the sum of positive de- terminations. Compare the attempt towards the close of the Theztetus to distinguish the ἰδέα τῆς συλλαβῆς from the στοιχεῖα. 2. περὶ μὲν ἐναντίου τινὸς] As often happens in sentences begun with περὶ, the syntax is not quite exact. “ As for an opposite of Being, we have long said good-bye to that in- quiry.” 11. ἔστι σαφέστατα ἐξ ἀνάγκης εἶνα] These words are re- peated from 256d. τὸ ἕτερον is the subject of εἶναι, and (τὸ P- 259 250. b ΣΟΦΙΣΤΗΣ. , \ od ΄ » Ἃὃ SA ΄σ θατέρου μετειληφος ἕτερον τῶν ἄλλων ἂν εἴη γενῶν, 7 > 7 4 ἋΟ » 37) a ἕτερον δ᾽ ἐκείνων ἁπάντων OV οὐκ ἐστιν ἕκαστον > an » \ / \ 27 \ > / d Ν αὐτῶν οὐδὲ ξύμπαντα τὰ ἄλλα πλὴν αὐτὸ, ὥστε τὸ ey 5 / 3 7 3. Δ / > v ov ἀναμφισβητήτως αὐ μυρία ἐπὶ μυρίοις οὐκ ἐστι, 5 \ “ σ Ν , καὶ τάλλα On καθ᾽ ἕκαστον οὕτω Kal ξύμπαντα TOA- 5 nan \ 57 Lal 327) λαχῇ μὲν ἐστι, πολλαχῇ δ᾽ οὐκ ἐστιν. ΘΕΑΙ. ᾿Αληθῆ. | ΤΛ Ν , \ a 9 7, 7 > BE. Kai ταύταις δὴ ταῖς ἐναντιώσεσιν εἴτε ἀπι- an / > a Ν 7 7 iy τῷ στεῖ τις, σκεπτέον αὐτῷ καὶ λεκτέον βέλτιον τι τῶν a ᾽ὔ ͵ Ἷ δ Ἂν Ἂν νῦν εἰρημένων" εἶτε ὡς τι χαλεπὸν κατανενοηκῶς \ \ 7 » 7 \ χαίρει τοτὲ μὲν ἐπὶ θάτερα τοτὲ δ᾽ ἐπὶ θάτερα τοὺς ty) » 3, ‘a “ » / λόγους ἕλκων, οὐκ ἄξια πολλῆς σπουδῆς ἐσπούδα- «ε ec a / 7 a \ \ SYA ΄ κεν, ὡς οἱ νῦν λόγοι φασι. τοῦτο μέν γὰρ οὐ τέ τι Χ Ν Tat 5 ΄σ δ Ν κομψὸν οὔτε χαλεπὸν εὑρεῖν, ἐκεῖνο δ᾽ ἡδὴ καὶ χαλε- Ν a Ν 7 TOV ἅμα καὶ καλον. ΘΕΑΙ. Τὸ ποῖον :; a / 57 Ν a 7 mE. Ὃ καὶ πρόσθεν εἴρηται, τὸ ταῦτα ἐάσαντα e \ a / er 3.516 2° ως δυνατὰ Τοις λεγομένοις οιον Τ εἰναι καθ εκαστον ἕτερον) εἶναι μὴ ὄν οἵ ἔστιν. The words ἕτερον τοῦ ὄντος ὅν are ἴῃ agreement with τὸ ἕτερον. 8. Kai—qaci] “If this ap- parent contradiction awaken doubt, let doubt lead to in- quiry. But if made the occa- sion of logomachy by men who delight in working out and bringing into relief the oppo- site sides of such antinomies, let such men learn from the above argument that it is childish to mistake the different for the incompatible.” Mr. Grote ob- serves that this would be no unfair description of Plato’s own procedure in the Parme- nides. To which it may be rejoined that, as Mr. Grote himself points out, the diffi- culties of the Parmenides are regarded by their author as a preparatory exercise, stimu- lating the mind to further study, whereas in the case here supposed the difficulties are raised for their own sake. II. τοὺς λόγους ἕλκων] The picture of men tearing an argument ‘‘to tatters, to very rags,’ is one which frequently occurs. Cf. Phileb. 57 d: τοῖς δεινοῖς περὶ λόγων ὁλκήν. 14. καὶ χαλεπὸν ἅμα καὶ καλόν] According to Plato’s favourite proverb, ὅτι χαλεπὰ τὰ καλά. 18. ὡς δυνατά} Either “as easily managed” (cf. οὐ χαλεπὸν supra), or “as possible to be” Our argu- ment has shewn the worthless- 10 ness of that easy and childish logic which relies on the expo- sure of con- tradictions, when com- pared with 15 that which is at once difficult and valu- able, the real criti- cism of arguments according to their genuine meaning. That ana- lysis which makes ab- solute se- verance between different forms is at the oppo- site pole from true philosophy: for without I 166 ΠΛΑΤΩ͂ΝΟΣ »Ὰ 7 » » σ΄ “ / ig 3, ἐλέγχοντ ἐπακολουθεῖν, ὅταν TE τις ἕτερον OV πῇ p. 259}. δυι 53 ΄-“ \ ao 8' Ἃἃ “Ὁ a > , TavTov εἰναι φῇ καὶ ὅταν ταῦτον ὧν ETEpOY, ἐκείνῃ ἃ Ν bdo) ad [χά / / / Ἀ καὶ κατ᾽ ἐκεῖνο ὃ φησι τούτων πεπονθέναι πότερον, TO \ 3. ἂν “ > 7, Cain 7 κ᾿ \ ΄ δὲ ταῦτον ἕτερον ἀποφαίνειν ἁμῇ γέ πῃ καὶ TO θά- San Ν / \ Ν σ ὅτερον ταὐτὸν καὶ τὸ μέγα σμικρὸν καὶ τὸ ὅμοιον 5 ΄ / [4 » / Bs / ἀνόμοιον, καὶ χαίρειν οὕτω TavavTia ἀεὶ προφέροντα > “- / By , ΕΣ @ > Χ ἐν τοῖς λογοις, οὐ τέ τις ἐλεγχος οὗτος ἀληθινος y+ “ 7 \ > / a ἄρτι TE τῶν ὄντων τινὸς ἐφαπτομένου δῆλος νεογε- Ν + νὴς ὧν. ΘΒΑΙ. Κομιδῇ μὲν οὖν. —the latter is more probable. “Tetting these contradictions alone, as not inconsistent with the nature of things.” (οὐκ ἀδύνατα, Par. Εἰ. marg.) In sup- port of the former (which, however, is hardly Greek), ef. Phileb. 14 ἃ : μὴ δεῖν τῶν τοι- οὕτων ἅπτεσθαι, παιδαριώδη καὶ ῥάδια καὶ σφόδρα τοῖς λόγοις ἐμ- πόδια. The word is suspici- ous, and Badham conj. ἀνήνυτα. It is more likely that a few letters have dropt out, e. g. ταῦτα ἐάσαντα. ὡς δυνατὸν μά- λιστία. (18.) οἷον τ᾽ εἶναι ---- πότερον] “To be able to apply his rea- son to each particular point in a discussion, and to bring any man to the test who says that what is other in some respect is the same, or what is the same is other, by reasoning with him on that ground and of that particular relation, in which he says that either of these predicates is applicable.” I. ἐλέγχοντα ἐπακολουθεῖν] Cf. Rep. 7, 534 6: ὥσπερ ἐν μάχῃ διὰ πάντων ἐλέγχων διεξιὼν----ἐν πᾶσι τούτοις ἀπτῶτι τῷ λόγῳ διαπο- ρεΐηται. 3. κατ᾽ ἐκεῖνο ὅ -- κ. ε. καθ᾽ 6] The want of this power is again noted as the defect of ἀντιλογική ἴῃ Rep. 5, 454 6. This passage has been curi- ously mistranslated by Hegel: Geschichte der Phil. p. 210. See Introduction to Sophist, sub finem. 7. οὔ τέ τις ---- νεογενὴς ὧν] “ This is no real exercise of reason, but on the face of it the childish offspring of one who has but a recent ac- quaintance with the true ob- jects of thought.” Cf. Rep. 7, 539 b: of μειρακίσκοι, ὅταν τὸ πρῶτον λόγων γεύωνται, ὡς παιδιᾷ αὐτοῖς καταχρῶνται, ἀεὶ εἰς ἀντι- λογίαν χρώμενοι, καὶ μιμούμενοι τοὺς ἐξελέγχοντας αὐτοὶ ἄλλους ἐξελέγχουσι, χαίροντες ὥσπερ σκυ- λάκια τῷ ἕλκειν τε καὶ σπαράττειν τὸν πλήσιον ἀεί. 8. veoyevns| Cf. Thezt. 160 €: τοῦτο φῶμεν σὸν εἶναι οἷον νεογενὲς παίδιον. Perhaps veo- γενὴς has here the meaning (which Hegel gives it) = νέου γέννημα. (Cf. Shakspeare’s “the baby of a girl”) See the unusual meaning given to νυμφευτὴς in Polit. 268 a. . 250. . 260, ΣΟΦΙΣΤΗΣ. 107 μ--ὶ ΄ 5 7 t - Ὧν ἮΝ ν SE. Καὶ γάρ, ὦ ᾽γαθέ, τὸ γε πᾶν ἀπὸ παντὸς ᾽ ων » / 57 » 3 \ Ν δὴ ἐπιχειρεῖν ἀποχωρίζειν ἄλλως τε οὐκ ἐμμελὲες καὶ δὴ Ν ’ > / Ν Ne / καὶ παντάπασιν ἀμουσοῦυ τινος και ἀφιλοσοφου. ΘΕΑΙ. Τί δή; * commu; nion of kinds” there can be no dis- course, i ΄, ,ὕ , ’ N ’ , Ν HE. Τελεωτάτη πάντων λόγων ἐστὶν ἀφανισις τὸ 5 ΄ “ \ , \ Ν Χ > ( διαλύειν ἕκαστον ἀπὸ παντων᾽ διὰ γὰρ τὴν ἀλλήλων an ΕἸ lal \ e / / « an τῶν εἰδῶν συμπλοκὴν ὃ λόγος γέγονεν ημίν. ΘΕΑΙ. ᾿Αληθῆ. Lor! , / e ᾽ ta a \ a HE. Σκόπει τοίνυν ὡς ἐν καιρῷ νῦν On τοῖς τοι- / 7 4& rc Ὡ“ οὕτοις διεμαχόμεθα καὶ προσηναγκαζομεν ἐᾷν ἕτερον πα / ἑτέρῳ μίγνυσθαι. ΘΕΑΙ. Πρὸς δὴ τί; \ \ \ ΄ SS “ 27 a mE. Πρὸς τὸ τὸν Aoyov ἡμῖν τῶν ὀντων ἕν τι a 53 / \ / Ν Ν ’ γενῶν εἰναι. τούτου γὰρ στερηθέντες τὸ μέν μεγι- 2. ἐπιχειρεῖν] “To go about to separate.’ The word is redundant, as often in Plato: ewes supra 2395 e. Pheedr. 265 e. 3. ἀμούσου τινός] Because μουσική is conversant with λό- you. Cf. Theet. 156 a. 5. Τελεωτάτη---πάντων] This truth is the key to the present dialogue,and gives unity to what seems unconnected. The chief characteristic of the Sophist is ἀντιλογική, an art of negation ; and even the Elenchus, as pro- fessed by him, has the defect of being purely negative, and is valuable only in clearing the way for positive speculation. It is by means of this contro- versial or negative dialectic that the Sophist eludes us when we try to fix upon him the reproach of being a pre- tender. And Parmenides has given occasion for this kind of reasoning, by drawing the line so sharply between being and not-being. Of the same nature was the difficulty we encoun- tered in considering the ex- clusive antithesis of rest and motion. This whole class of difficulties is solved when we perceive that positive and ne- gative are indissolubly united in the nature of things: and in particular we are enabled to transfix the Sophist by proving to him that negation is applic- able to thought and speech. 9. τοῖς τοιούτοις] Se. μηδὲν ἐῶσιν κοινωνίᾳ παθήματος ἑτέρου θάτερον προσαγορεύειν, P. 252 ¢. 14. τούτου yap στερηθέντες] “ For if compelled to relinquish this, the greatest evil would be that we must give up philo- sophy ; but besides this, at this moment we are required to agree upon a definition of τοῖς Ιο IML Gb And at the present juncture we find the conveni- ence of having es- tablished this com- munion, for our next business 168 IAATONOS ΕΥ rn , , , r y στον φιλοσοφίας av στερηθεῖμεν, ἔτι δ᾽ ἐν τῷ πα- p. 26ς ὄντι δεῖν Adyou ἡπιβουδιομολογήσασ ας ἘΣ ρ VTL O€L Oyov μας (ομο ογῆσασ αι Tl TOT €OTLY, > \ > /, ᾽ \ > 53 Ν ΄ 5Ὸλ εἰ δε ἀφηρέθημεν αὐτὸ μηδ᾽ εἶναι τὸ παράπαν, οὐδὲν xX 7 7 “Δ... > 5 » / > JA av ἐτι Tov λέγειν οἷοι T ἦμεν. ἀφῃρέθημεν δ᾽ ἂν, is to define 5 εἰ συνεχωρήσαμεν μηδεμίαν εἶναι μίξιν μηδενὶ πρὸς Discourse, whereas if forms were incommu- nicable, we should not have been able to discourse at all. The reason why this is neces- sary is that the Sophist has yet an- other hold onus. He may assert that Not- Being can- not enter into Dis- course. μηδέν. OEAI. Ὀρθῶς τοῦτό γε. λόγον δὲ OC ὅ τι νῦν διομολογητέον οὐκ ἔμαθον. 5 a Gt en AN ΄ EE. ᾿Αλλ᾽ ἴσως τῇδ᾽ ἑπόμενος ῥᾷστ᾽ ἂν μάθοις. ΘΕΑΙ. Πῇ: SE. To μὲν δὴ μὴ ὃν ἡμῖν ἕν τι τῶν ἄλλων γένος “δ > , \ De ἊΣ / ov ἀνεφάνη, κατὰ πάντα τὰ ὄντα διεσπαρμένον. SEAI. Οὕτως. καὶ > a \ \ a / , =H. Οὐκοῦν τὸ μετὰ τοῦτο σκεπτέον εἰ δοξῃ τε ι Ν / / 15 Kal λογῳ μίγνυται. OEAI. Ti dy: ἘΠῚ Μὴ / \ > “ 4 5 r i. Min μιγνυμένου μὲν αὑτοῦ TOUTOLS ἀναγκαῖον ἀληθῆ πάντ᾽ εἶναι, μιγνυμένου δὲ δόξα τε ψευδὴς [ Ν ΄ : \ \ A Ness, ΄ Xx γίγνεται καὶ Aoyos’ τὸ yap Ta μὴ οντὰ δοξάζειν ἢ λόγοις γιγνόμενον. ΘΕΑΙ. Οὕτως. ΄ σ᾽ ὦ Ὁ , \ A > , N 20 λέγειν, TOUT ἐστί που TO ψεῦδος, ἐν διανοίᾳ TE καὶ EE. Ὄντος δέ γε ψεύδους ἐστιν ἀπάτη. Discourse, whereas, if the very existence of discourse were utterly taken from us, I pre- sume we could not then dis- course at all” (much less dis- course upon Discourse). 11. To μὲν δὴ----ἀνεφάνη] Viz. The application of the notion of Other to those things from which Being, or any part of Being, is distinguished. 12. διεσπαρμένον] Supr. 255 ewan ac: 14. εἰ----μίγνυται)] The way is now prepared for the con- tinuation of the argument which was dropped p. 236 e. 18. δόξα τε ψευδὴς γίγνεται καὶ λόγος] See, in addition to passages elsewhere cited, Cra- tyl. 385-387, 429, 436. 20. ἐν διανοίᾳ ---- γιγνόμενον] “ Which thus arises in the re- gion of thought and speech.” — J 16) ΣΟΦΙΣΤΗΣ. 169 In other words : Negation is possible, but False- hood is not. 260. OEAI. Ναί μ-ὶ \ ᾽ Ses. BE. Kat μὴν ἀπάτης οὔσης εἰδώλων τε καὶ εἰκό- 7 4 7 XN 3 vov ἤδη Kal φαντασίας πάντα ἀνάγκη μεστὰ εἶναι. ΘΕΑΙ. Πῶς γὰρ ov; EE. Τὸν δὲ σοφιστὴν ἔφαμεν ἐν τούτῳ που τῷ σι Ld / / yy, δὲ / \ ἃ τόπῳ καταπεφευγέναι μέν, ἔξαρνον δὲ γεγονέναι τὸ ,ὔ > 3 aA \ A Δ ἢ 27 παράπαν μηδ᾽ εἶναι ψεῦδος" τὸ γὰρ μὴ ὃν οὔτε δια- “ ’ δ [4 = > 7 Ν 5 \ 5 lad νοείσθαί τινα οὔτε λέγειν᾽ οὐσίας yap οὐδὲν οὐδαμῇ \ XN oN / _ Τὸ μὴ ὃν μετέχειν. ΘΕΑΙ. Ἢν ταῦτα. 1ο = a / a \ 7 , ny &E. Nov δέ ye τοῦτο μὲν ἐφάνη μετέχον τοῦ ὄντος, od / \ 7 2 ἊΟ , 32) ᾽’ὔ 5.ϑ ἃ ὥστε ταύτῃ μὲν ἴσως οὐκ ἂν μάχοιτο ETL’ τάχα O ἂν / fad “ Ν \ / a Ἂς »S \ φαίη τῶν εἰδῶν τὰ μὲν μετέχειν τοῦ μὴ ὄντος, τὰ δ᾽ yf Ν / \ Ν , 53 a » 77 οὔ, καὶ λόγον δὴ καὶ δόξαν εἶναι τῶν οὐ μετεχόντων. fod X\ 9 wo N Q / 3 ὩΣ \ ὥστε τὴν εἰδωλοποιίκην καὶ φανταστικὴν, εν ἢ φαμεν " σι SEN 5) ᾽ὔ 4. τον ? e , > αὑτὸν εἶναι, διαμάχοιτ av πάλιν ὡς παντάπασιν οὐκ yf 3 Χ “ νΝ lA 5 a lal NiO ἔστιν, ἐπειδὴ δόξα καὶ λόγος οὐ κοινωνεῖ τοῦ μὴ OV- Ε A \ A ΄ > 5 , τ τος Ψεῦδος γὰρ τὸ παράπαν οὐκ εἶναι ταύτης μὴ Hence Ξ ς γ - , ΄ Pa there arises πρῶτον καὶ δόξαν καὶ φαντασίαν διερευνητέον ὅ τί 20 the neces- if > / \ a? 3 7, συνισταμένης τῆς κοινωνίας. Ola ταῦτ οὖν λόγον ΟΣ ὍΣ o ΄, Noy fate , a sity of ex- TOT €OTLY, LWA φανέντων και Τὴν KOLV@VLAVY QAUT@Y = amining a Ni oy ὃ 56 δὲ ᾿ 58 x speech, τῷ μὴ OVTL κατίδωμεν, KATLOOVTES OE TO ev OS OV opinion, 3. πάντα---μεστὰ εἶναι] Cf. Thest. 170 ὁ: καὶ πάντα που μεστὰ τἀνθρώπινα ζητούντων δι- δασκάλους τε καὶ ἄρχοντας αὑτῶν ἘΝ (ὑπῆν: 411 Ὁ, 6. ἔξαρνον δὲ γεγονέναι] ῬΡ. 239-241. ΤΡ. φανταστικήν] Distinguish- ed from εἰκαστική, the other species of εἰδωλοποιϊκή, supr. p- 236 c. τό. πάλιν] I.e. As before in the case of μὴ ὄν. 18. μὴ συνισταμένης | The communion is said to unite, instead of the elements unit- ing in communion, just as 7 μάχη συνίσταται is put for οἱ μαχόμενοι συνίστανται εἰς μάχην. 20. δόξαν καὶ φαντασίαν] This distinction is in advance of the psychology of the Theztetus. 21. tva—xaridoper] “ That when we have found them, we may also observe their com- munion with Not-Being.” 22. τὸ Ψεῦδος dv] “ That falsehood exists.” and imagi- nation, that we may see whether or no they partake of Not-Being. The So- phist ap- pears likely to prove a very Sphinx, proposing to us one riddle after another. But we must not lose heart ; and, after all, his chief for- tress is already taken. 170 ἀποδεΐξωμεν, ἀποδείξαντες δὲ Tov σοφιστὴν εἰς αὐτὸ p. 261} ΠΛΑΤΩΝΟΣ > ’ y+ ” / > ΕΝ Ce) / > ἐνδήσωμεν, εἴπερ ἔνοχός ἐστιν, ἢ καὶ ἀπολύσαντες EV ἄλλῳ γένει ζητῶμεν. ΘΕΑΙ. Κομιδῇ δέ γε, ὦ ξένε, ἔοικεν ἀληθὲς εἶναι Ἂν Ν Ν \ 51,3 Ν / vA / 5TO περὶ τὸν σοφιστὴν κατ᾽ ἀρχὰς λεχθέν, OTL δυσθη- ΕΜ Ν 4 ‘ 3 ΄ ρευτον εἰὴ TO γενος. φαίνεται γὰρ οὖν προβλημάτων / Ὁ ’ὔ’ 7, a / γέμειν. ὧν ἐπειδάν TL προβάλῃ, τοῦτο πρότερον ava- a / \ »., 5 ἄν 3. 8A > 7, γκαῖον διαμάχεσθαι πρὶν ἐπ᾽ αὐτὸν ἐκεῖνον ἀφικέσθαι. A \ / \ Ν Ἂ, Ὁ « Ε 32) \ νῦν yap μόγις μὲν TO μὴ ὃν ὡς οὐκ ἐστι προβληθεν το διιπεράσαμεν, ἕτερον δὲ προβέβληται, καὶ δεῖ δὴ ψεῦ- 2 / ΄ δος ὡς ἔστι καὶ περὶ λόγον καὶ περὶ δόξαν ἀποδεῖξαι, Ν \ SA σ΄ Ἂς: 9.59. SY Lear - Ε καὶ μετὰ τοῦτο LOWS ETEPOV, Καὶ ET ἀλλο μετ EKELVO Ν / « yy 5 \ / / Kal πέρας, ὡς ἔοικεν, οὐδὲν φανήσεται ποτε. ΄ 5 A ΣΏ. Θαρρεῖν, ὦ Θεαίτητε, χρὴ Tov καὶ σμικρὸν τι ’, ς \ , Ch oN of 4 \ “ Ἢ 15 δυνάμενον εἰς τὸ πρόσθεν ἀεὶ προϊέναι. τί γὰρ ὃ Y 5 a 3 7 ΕΝ 5 y x \ 3 ἀθυμῶν ἐν τούτοις δρασειεν ἂν ἐν ἄλλοις, ἢ μηδὲν ἐν 5 7 » / X Ν ’ 3 27 5 / ἐκείνοις ἀνύτων ἢ Kal πάλιν εἰς τούπισθεν ἀπωσθεὶς ; rn Ν A \ 7 σ “- σχολῇ που, τὸ κατὰ τὴν παροιμίαν λεγόμενον, ὃ γε I. αὐτὸ] τὸ ψεῦδος. 2. εἴπερ ἔνοχός ἐστιν] “If he is liable to be held therein.” The word, without losing the legal association, recovers the original metaphorical — sense. Cf. πρόχειρον, Theet. τοῦ ἃ, and note. The same remark applies to ἀπολύσαντες, “ freeing him” (at once acquitting and liberating). 5. kar ἀρχὰς] 218 0, 223 Ὁ, 226 a. 6. προβλημάτων γέμει"] Cf. Theet. 161 a: οἴει pe λόγων τινα εἶναι θύλακον καὶ ῥᾳδίως ἐξελόντα ἐρεῖν ὡς οὐκ αὖ ἔχει οὕτω ταῦτα. 7. προβάλῃ!β͵Ἵ Referring to προβλημάτων, Which partly re- tains the etymological sense. προβάλλειν is here to throw in front as a screen or defence. Cf. Polit. 279 d. 8. διαμάχεσθαι) “To fight through.” διὰ retaining the original meaning. 10. προβέβληται] The perf. pass. is perhaps used here with middle signification, = “ has thrown before him ;” but the word is more probably to be taken passively: = “ Another problem is set.” 12. ἴσως ἕτερον] Se. δεήσει προβληθὲν διαπερᾶσαι. 16. ἐν τούτοις] Se. ἐν οἷς πρό- εἰσιν. ἐν ἐκείνοι] Se. τοῖς ἄλλοις. ΣΟΦΙΣΤῊΣ. 171 . 26ιτ. τοιοῦτος av ποτε ἕλοι πόλιν. νῦν δ᾽ ἐπεί, ὦ yale, © χρῦτο ὃ λέγεις διαπεπέρανται, τό τοι μέγιστον ἡμῖν τεῖχος ἡρημένον ἂν εἴη, τὰ O ἄλλα ἤδη paw καὶ σμικρότερα. ΘΕΑΙ. Καλῶς εἶπες. 5 ΣῈ. Λόγον δὴ πρῶτον καὶ δύξαν, καθάπερ ἐρρήθη νῦν δή, λάβωμεν, ἵν ἐναργέστερον ξἀπολογισώμεθαξ, πότερον αὐτῶν ἅπτεται τὸ μὴ ὃν ἢ παντάπασιν ἀληθῆ μέν ἐστιν ἀμφότερα ταῦτα, ψεῦδος δὲ οὐδέ- > 7 ποτε οὐδέτερον. ΘΕΑΙ. Ὀρθώς. Io , , \ a a N a HE. Φέρε δή, καθάπερ ἐπὶ τῶν εἰδῶν καὶ TOV oe Ee »ὲ : i : step mus γραμμάτων ἐλέγομεν, περὶ τῶν ὀνομάτων πάλιν be to ask the same , / , ΄ 7, : ὡσαύτως ἐπισκεψώμεθα. φαίνεται yap πῃ ταύτῃ question \ ᾿ , about TO νῦν ζητούμενον. 15 words \ Ξ 3 \ Ae eg) , c which we GEAI. To ποῖον οὖν dn περὶ τῶν ὀνομάτων ὑπα- have al- / ready an- KOUVOTEOYV 5 swered , , , , yo about the ΣΕ. Hire πάντα ἀλλήλοις ξυναρμόττει εἴτε μη- letters of Sas εἶ Ne ἫΝ 9 ΄, εν the alpha- ey’ εἶτε τὰ μέν ἐθέλει, τὰ δὲ μη. ΤΡ ΕΠ τς a cyl? 7 \ \ nf \ 4 kinds of GEAI. Δῆλον τοῦτο ye, ὅτι τὰ μεν ἔθελει, τὰ δ᾽ OV. 20 Being ; 3. ἡρημένον] This use of the pf pass. of αἱρέω sufficiently confirms the MS. reading ἡρῆ- σθαι in Phileb. 66 "ἢ. The metaphor is suggested by σχολῇ----ἔλοι πόλιν above. 7. νῦν δή] So also the Bodl. MS. (not δέ). *darrohoyto@peba*| MSS. ἀπο- λογησώμεθα. If the MS. read- ing were right, the following clauses would depend on λάβω- μεν, and there would be a con- tinuation of the metaphor from supr. 254 d: ἀθῴοις ἀπαλλάτ- τειν. Cf. Lege. το, 886 e. But the correction of Heindorf, received by Bekker and suc- ceeding editors, appears so exactly suited to the context, that it is here retained. “ That we may reckon or infer more clearly.” “That we may have better data for determining.” ἀπο aS ἴῃ ἀπεικάζειν, ἀπομαντεύ- εσθαι. 14. φαίνεται γάρ πῃ ταύτῃ] Because words are the ele- ments of speech, as letters are of syllables, and ideas of thought. τό. Τὸ ποῖον --- ὑπακουστέον] “What question must I an- swer about names ?” Z 2 To what extent do they admit ofcombina- tion ? Some com- binations of words are signifi- cant, and some are not. For, as there are two chief parts of speech : the verb, which sig- nifies ac- tion, and the noun, which de- notes the agent, neither verbs with- out nouns nor nouns without verbs can be strung together so as to mean anything. 172 ITAATQNOZ FE. To τοιόνδε λέγεις ἴσως, ὅτι τὰ μὲν ἐφεξῆς p. 261. , ΄ / / \ \ “Ὁ λεγόμενα καὶ δηλοῦντά τι ξυναρμόττει, τὰ δὲ THe συνεχείᾳ μηδὲν σημαίνοντα ἀναρμοστεῖ. ΘΕΑΙ. Πῶς τί τοῦτ᾽ εἶπες ; EE. Ὅπερ φήθην ὑπολαβόντα σε προσομολο- γεῖν. ἔστι γὰρ ἡμῖν που τῶν τῇ φωνῇ περὶ τὴν οὐ- σίαν δηλωμάτων διττὸν γένος. OEAI. Ilas; EE. To μὲν ὀνόματα, τὸ δὲ ῥήματα κληθέν. ΘΕΑΙ. Εἰπὲ ἑκάτερον. EE. Τὸ μὲν ἐπὶ ταῖς πράξεσιν ov δήλωμα ῥῆμά που λέγομεν. ΘΕΑΙ. Ναί. Χ ΄ 5 5 a Picasa HE. To δέ γ᾽ er αὖ τοῖς ἐκεῖνα πράττουσι on- / 57 \ / > 5 λεγομένων οὐκ ἐστι ποτὲ λόγος, οὐδ᾽ αὖ 15 μεῖον τῆς φωνῆς ἐπιτεθὲν ὄνομα. ΘΕΑΙ. Κομιδῇ μὲν οὖν. = > aA > 3 ΄ \ , BE. Οὐκοῦν ἐξ ὀνομάτων μὲν μόνων συνεχῶς ῥημάτων χωρὶς ὀνομάτων λεχθέντων. OEAI. Ταῦτ᾽ οὐκ ἔμαθον. H&E. Δῆλον γὰρ ὡς πρὸς ἕτερόν τι βλέπων ἄρτι 9. Τὸ μὲν ὀνόματα, τὸ δὲ ῥή- ματα κληθέν]ἠ The distinction of noun and verb is here in- troduced as something wholly new. Note that ὄνομα is used first Im a generic and after- wards in a specific meaning: first for “ word” (supr. d) and then for “ noun.” II. TO pev—dvopa] “ The one, which is an expression standing for actions, we call a verb : the other, which is an ar- ticulate mark set on those who do the actions, we call a noun.” 14. ἐκεῖνα]. The Bodl. MS. has ἐκείνας (sc. ras πράξεις). 18. ῥημάτων͵]ἢ The genitive is governed by ἐξ in the pre- ceding line. 21. Δῆλον γὰρ] “ You must surely have had something different in your eye when you agreed with me. For this is the very thing I meant in say- ing that these things (nouns or verbs) merely strung to- gether in this way do not make language.” p- 2628 ΣΟΦΙΣΤΗΣ. 178 / A Ν , - “ . 262. ξυνωμολόγεις" ἐπεὶ τοῦτ᾽ αὐτὸ ἐβουλόμην εἰπεῖν, ὅτι A τ / a > 3) 7, συνεχως ὧδε λεγόμενα ταῦτα οὐκ ἐστι λογος. OEAI. [las ; RE. Οἷον, βαδίζει τρέχει καθεύδει, καὶ τάλλα ὅσα ᾽ὔ 7 «" A 4 3 la) » πράξεις σημαίνει ῥήματα, κἂν πάντα τις ἐφεξῆς αὖτ ’ iz a 7 εἴπη, λόγον οὐδέν TL μᾶλλον ἀπεργάζεται. ΘΕΑΙ. Πῶς γάρ; SE. Οὐκοῦν καὶ πάλιν ὅταν λέγηται, λέων ἔλα- σ Ψ » [, a A ΄ὕ 3 bos “T7TOS, OOH TE OVOULATA τῶν TAS πράξεις av 7 > 7 \ \ ’ XN ἈΝ πραττόντων ὠνομάσθη, καὶ κατὰ ταύτην δὴ τὴν 7 > / 4 / s > 7 \ συνέχειαν οὐδείς πω ζυνέστη λόγος" οὐδεμίαν yap yf 2 sy? 5 / ΄σ In? > / > \ οὔτε οὕτως OUT ἐκείνως πρᾶξιν οὐδ᾽ ampakiav οὐδὲ yy? 5 5. Χ Χ y+ o \ 7 οὐσίαν ὄντος οὐδὲ μὴ ὄντος δηλοῖ Ta φωνηθέντα, 3, lod 4 A CL 7 πρὶν av τις τοῖς ὀνόμασι τὰ ῥήματα κεράσῃ᾽ τότε 3 χὰ ΄ Ν ΄ 5 / 3 \ «ς Δ δ᾽ ἡρμοσέ τε καὶ λόγος ἐγένετο εὐθὺς ἡ πρώτη συμ- 7 XN an , a πλοκή, σχεδὸν τῶν λόγων ὁ πρῶτος καὶ σμικρό- Τατος. 2. ταῦτα] Sc. ὀνόματα καὶ ῥήματα. 5. avr] So the Bodl. MS., with ATI. cett. αὖτ᾽. 6. ἀπεργάζεται͵)]͵ The subject is not τις, but τὰ ῥήματα. 9. ὀνόματα----ὠνομάσθη] Here also the cogn. accus. becomes the nominative to the passive verb. 10. καὶ κατὰ ταύτην --- λόγος] “No sentence is constructed by this concatenation any more that by the former one.” 13. οὐσίαν---μὴ ὄντος] It has been above shewn that this is the meaning of every negative proposition. 15. ἥρμοσε] Se. τὰ φωνηθέντα. “The elements of speech com- bine.” The verb is used in a neuter sense, as below. ἥρμασέ τε καὶ --- ἐγένετο] For the aorists cf. Theet. 156 e, and note. And for the whole expression, cf. Phileb.47d: μίξις μία λύπης τε Kal ἡδονῆς ξυμπίπτει γενομένη. ἡ πρώτη συμπλοκή! “ The simplest combination.” In Theet. 202 it was suggested that words taken singly had no signification, but only when combined. Here the condi- tions necessary to this combi- nation are further shewn. It seems to be implied here that falsity is only in propositions, TO ψεῦδος ἐν συνθέσει ἀεὶ, as Aristotle says (de An. IIT. 6, § 2). This was not seen in Crat. 385 d: Ἔστιν ἄρα ὄνομα ψεῦδος καὶ ἀληθὲς λέγειν, εἴπερ καὶ λόγον. - Ὁ The most elementary sentence must con- TO tain at least one of each kind. And the sim- plest com- bination of a noun and verb, such as “ Man 15 Jearns,” is at once sig- nificant, and this 174 ΠΛΑΤΩ͂ΝΟΣ A 7 @ may be ΘΕΑΙ. Ilos ap ὧδε λέγεις ἢ taken as a pa ΡῈ 5 or , y type of lan- BE. Ὅταν εἴπῃ τις ἄνθρωπος μανθάνει, λόγον guage In 3 \ an / / ~ the most εἰναι Sys τοῦτον ἐλάχιστον TE καὶ πρῶτον ; rudimen- τ tary form. OEAI. Eyoye. It is there- ἘΞ “νὸν ” , Ἢ a eh > fore true 5 &E. Δηλοῖ yap ἤδὴ που τότε περὶ τῶν ὄντων ἢ that of , 5! , x , Ν » > words,as γίγνομενων ἢ γεγονότων ἢ μελλόντων, καὶ οὐκ OVO- of letters ΄ , 5». ΄ / ΄ὔ ᾿Εν andsounds, μάζέι μόνον, ἀλλά τι περαίνει, συμπλέκων τὰ ρήματα only cer- ma DL \ ,ὕ nm 9 4 > taincom. Τοῖς ὀνόμασι. διὸ λέγειν TE αὑτὸν ἀλλ᾽ οὐ μόνον OVO- binations ΄ " \ δὲ \ a , , κ᾿ ἐπα προ τις μάζειν εἴπομεν, καὶ δὴ καὶ τῷ πλέγματι τούτῷ TO sible. Every such 1° ὄνομα ἐφθεγξάμεθα λόγον. ene OEAI. ᾿Ορθώς. a \ ΄ κ , κ Me HE. Οὕτω δὴ καθάπερ Ta πράγματα τὰ μὲν ἀλ- , 4 \ ᾽ yf \ Ν \ a “ 53 λήλοις ἥρμοττε, τὰ δ᾽ οὔ, καὶ περὶ τὰ τῆς φωνῆς αὖ ΄σ \ \ / A \\ , lal σημεῖα τὰ μὲν οὐχ ἄρμόττει, TA δὲ ἁρμόττοντα αὐτῶν “2 15 λόγον ἀπειργάσατο. Sono ae: OEAI. Παντάπασι μὲν οὖν. Y , Moreover, BE. Ἔτι δὴ σμικρὸν τοδε. every - proposi- ΘΕΑΙ. To ποῖον ; tion, even ; Ε a x = the sim- EE. Λόγον ἀναγκαῖον, ὅταν περ ἢ; Twos εἶναι plest, has x , asubject, 20AOyOV, μὴ δέ τινος ἀδύνατον. and is of a Ἂ certain ΘΈΑΙ. Οὕτως. quality. > rn Ν NN 3 a EE. Οὐκοῦν καὶ ποιὸν τινα αὐτὸν εἶναι δεῖ ; 1. ὧδε The adverb is used, instead of τοῦτο, by a sort of attraction from πῶς. 4. ἀλλά τι περαίνει)]ξ. “ But effects or determines some- thing.” Cf. Thet. 180a: πε- paveis δὲ οὐδέ ποτε οὐδὲν πρὸς οὐδένα αὐτῶν. 9. τῷ πλέγματι] The same metaphor is applied in the Politicus to the practical com- binations of the Statesman. 13. τὰ τῆς φωνῆς σημεῖα] “The vocal marks on things,” i. 6. words. περὶ -- “ἴῃ the region of,” 1. 6. “ amongst.” 17. σμικρὸν τόδε] Se. ἴδωμεν or λάβωμεν. Cf. Polit. 300 a: τί δὲ τόδε: Compare the similar ellipse with ὧδε in Τ Θεοῦ. 191 ¢: ἀλλ᾽ ὧδε. 19. τινὸς εἶναι λόγον] “ Must have a subject.” Cf. Thezt. 160 a: ᾿Ανάγκη δέ ye ἐμέ τε τινὸς γίγνεσθαι, ὅταν αἰσθανόμενος γί- γνωμαι. αἰσθανόμενον γάρ, μηδενὸς δὲ αἰσθανόμενον ἀδύνατον γίγνεσθαι" ἐκεῖνό τε τινὶ γίγνεσθαι K.T.A. p- 264}; . 2626 b ΣΟΦΙΣΤΗΣ. BEAT Προς δ᾽ οὗ; y \ \ an (yr ΄ BE. Προσέχωμεν δὴ τὸν νοῦν ἡμῖν αὐτοῖς. ΘΕΙΑΙ. Δεῖ γοῦν. / 5 BE. Λέξω τοίνυν σοι λόγον, συνθεὶς πρᾶγμα Le δὲ ὁ , WOW ἐ oe δ᾽ x 5 Xo πράξει OL OVOMATOS καὶ ρηματος᾽ OTOV av o Aoyos 5 ἢ, σύ μοι φράζειν. ΘΕΑΙ. Ταῦτ᾽ ἔσται κατὰ δύναμιν. HE. Θεαίτητος κάθηται. μῶν μὴ μακρὸς ὁ λόγος; ΘΕΑΙ. Οὐκ, ἀλλὰ μέτριος. ΞΕ. Σὸν ἔργον δὴ φράζειν περὶ οὗ τ᾽ ἐστὶ καὶ ιο o OTOU. ΘΕΑΙ. Δῆλον ὅτι περὶ ἐμοῦ τε Kal ἐμός. ΞΕ. Ti δὲ ὅδ᾽ αὖ: OEAI. Ποῦς ; Ὄ fa) \ , 7 HE. Θεαίτητος, ᾧ viv ἐγὼ διαλέγομαι, πέτεται. ΘΕΑΙ. Καὶ τοῦτον οὐδ᾽ ἂν εἷς ἄλλως εἴποι πλὴν gt ἡ » 95 Ν S 2 a €MOV Τ ELVAL Και περι ἐμου. ἊΝ / / vad 9 HE. Ποιὸν δέ ye τινά φαμεν ἀναγκαῖον ἕκαστον 53 an 7 εἰναι τῶν λογων. ΘΕΑΙ. Nai. eS y? Ν al /p “- H&E. Τούτων δὴ ποῖον τινα ἑκάτερον φατέον εἶναι: 2. Προσέχωμεν --- αὐτοῖς] Cf. supra 233 d: καί μοι προσέχων τὸν νοῦν εὖ μάλα ἀποκρίνου. 4. πρᾶγμα --- ῥήματος]. The ὄνομα standing for the πρᾶγμα and the ῥῆμα for the πρᾶξις, ut supra. 21. ποῖόν τινα] “Since the time of Aristotle, the quality of a proposition has been understood to designate its being either affirmative or ne- gative: that being formal, or belonging to its form only. Whether affirmative or nega- tive, it may be true or false, and this is doubtless a quality, but belonging to its matter, not its form. Plato seems to have taken no account of the formal distinction, negative or affirmative.” Grote’s Plato, vol. il. p. 448 note. See, however, supr. 262 ¢, πρᾶξιν οὐδ᾽ ἀπραξίαν, οὐσίαν ὄντος οὐδὲ μὴ ὄντος. Infr. 265 6: φάσιν τε καὶ ἀπόφασιν. The possibility of negation has been already proved: the ques- tion now is, whether speech or thought can properly be made For exam- ple: “ The- zetetus is sitting” is a proposl- tion, of which The- zetetus is the subject. 15 “ Theete- tus here is flying,” is another, of which the subject is the same. But they differ in quality. 20 For the one is mani- festly false, the other true. The true proposition determines in accord- ance with reality. The false proposition also deter- mines something, as if real, but that something is different from the reality. Therefore, in the se- cond of the two in- stances just given, The- zetetus is made the subject of an unreal determina- tion, and of another predicate, which is treated as if it were the same 176 ITAATQNOZ ΘΕΑΙ. Tov μὲν ψευδῆ που, τὸν δὲ ἀληθῆ. / \ FeLi « \ BE. Λέγει δὲ αὐτῶν ὁ μὲν ἀληθὴς τὰ ὄντα ws A Ν cal €OTL TEPl σου. ΘΕΑΙ. Ti pny ; ZE. Ὁ δὲ δὴ ψευδὴς ἕτερα τῶν ὄντων. GCEAI. Nai. — \ \ / 3, 3, HE. Τὰ μὴ ὄντ᾽ ἄρα ὡς ὄντα λέγει. ΘΈΑΙ. Σχεδόν. μ»-- 35) 4, + nw EE. Ὄντων δέ ye ὄντα ἕτερα περὶ σοῦ. πολλὰ \ > yf δὲ οὐκ OVTA. ΘΕΑΙ. Κομιδῇ μὲν οὖν. \ \ y+ 7 OQ. 53 / A lo μὲν γὰρ εφαμεν OVTA περὶ ἐκαστον εἰναί που, TOAAG = ἃ “ Χ , a HE. “Ov ὕστερον δὴ λόγον εἴρηκα περὶ σοῦ, - ,ὕ 3 Ὁ ec , 7 9. 51 , πρωτον μεν», ἐξ ων ὡρισάμεθα τί ποτ εστι Aoyos, 3 / 5 Ν “ ΄-“ 7 2 τ ἀναγκαιότατον αὑτὸν Eva τῶν βραχυτάτων εἰναι. ΘΕΑΙ. Nov δὴ γοῦν ταύτῃ ξυνωμολογήσαμεν. 7 SE. Ἔπειτα δέ γε τινός. ΘΕΑΙ. Οὕτως. \ Χ la HE. Ei δὲ μὴ ἔστι σός, οὐκ ἄλλου ye οὐδενός. the object of negation, and de- scribed as false. In the Phile- bus also (37 e) by the quality of an opinion is meant truth or falsity: καὶ ἐγένετο od μόνον δόξα διὰ ταῦτα ἀλλὰ καὶ ποιά τις ἑκατέρα. 9. Ὄντων δέ γε ὄντα ἕτερα πέρι σοῦ] “Really being different from what really is concerning you: for we said that in re- gard to each thing there ex- ists much that is and much that is not.” I. 6. the propo- sition has a real significance, though a significance which is different from the true one. Io. mov is to be construed ὑπερβάτως with ἔφαμεν. N. B. It is possible that in the phrase οὔκουν ὅσοι ye τῶν μεγάλων πού τι κιτιλ., SUPY. 235 6, που ought to have been taken ὑπερβάτως with the whole sentence: = “I presume you know.” 15. eva τῶν βραχυτάτων εἶναι] Because a subject and a pre- dicate are essential to every sentence. Ig. Ei δὲ py—ovdevds] The p- 265] object of these words, and of © ᾧ νῦν ἐγὼ διαλέγομαι supra a, is to bring out the falsity of the proposition, by making it per- fectly clear that Theztetus is the subject of whom “flying” ΣΟΦΙΣΤΗΣ. ΘΕΑΙ. Πῶς γάρ; 177 HE. Μηδενὸς δὲ ὧν οὐδ᾽ av λόγος εἴη TO πα- (2 Ξ > / \ σ “ 3 ΄ 53 ΄ pamav’ ἀπεφῆήναμεν yap ὅτι τῶν ἀδυνάτων ἣν λόγον ” \ 5 , ὄντα μηδενὸς εἶναι Aoyov. ΘΕΑΙ. ᾿Ορθότατα. ΞΕ. Περὶ δὴ σοῦ λεγόμενα μέντοι θάτερα ὡς τὰ \ SON Ν \ 5, ε BA , ec yy αὐτὰ Και μὴ OVTH WS OVTA, TTAVTATTACLY WS EOLKEV c / / 3) e / 7 ἢ τοιαύτη σύνθεσις ἐκ τε ῥημάτων γιγνομένη καὶ 5 7, yA Ν 5 la / / ονομάτων ὄντως TE Kal ἀληθῶς γίγνεσθαι λογος ψευδής. ΘΕΑΙ. ᾿Αληθέστατα μὲν οὖν. BE. Τί δὲ 67; διάνοιά τε καὶ δόξα καὶ φαντασία, is predicated. If the propo- sition had no subject, it would not be a proposition, for it was shewn that every propo- sition has a subject: but it belongs to no subject except Theeetetus. Therefore Theze- tetus is the subject. This conclusion is resumed in the words περὶ δὴ σοῦ λεγόμενα. Mr. Grote objects that here and in Theet. 201, Plato, who decries the “ facts of sense,” selects an example of which sense alone can judge. It may be replied that, in choosing the simplest examples, he naturally lights on what is obvious to the senses. But, first, even in this case the truth or falsehood is not given by sense, but by reason- ing upon sense ; and, secondly, Plato would have said that these “sensible analogies” (ai- σθηταὶ ὁμοιότητες, Polit. 285 6) were only symbols of the higher truths of which he spoke. 3. ἦν] The past tense is used not only because of the aorist ἀπεφήναμεν, but also to express that which is unalter- able. 6. Περὶ δὴ σοῦ] Compare the similar “ad hominem” il- lustration at the end of the Theetetus, p. 209 Ὁ: θὲς γάρ pe διανοούμενον ὡς ἔστιν οὗτος Θεαίτητος κιτ.λ. Περὶ δὴ ---- μέντοι θάτερα | The position of μέντοι has caused suspicion as to the soundness of the text, but may be accounted for by the em- phasis on σοῦ, Cf. που supr. b, and note. λεγόμενα----σύνθεσι.] For the constr. cf. Pheedo 69 ὁ : χωριζό- μενα δὲ φρονήσεως καὶ ἀλλαττόμενα ἀντὶ ἀλλήλων μὴ σκιαγραφία τις ἢ ἡ τοιαύτη ἀρετή K.T.A. 7. ὡς ἔοικεν----γίγνεσθαι] The main verb is attracted into the relative clause, as in Soph. Trach. 1238: ἀνὴρ ὅδ᾽, ὡς ἔοι- κεν, οὐ νέμειν ἐμοὶ φθίνοντι μοῖ- ραν. Cf. Euthyd. 280d: Δεῖν ἄρα ὡς ἔοικεν. Phileb. 54 d: οὐκ- οὖν, ὅπερ ἔλεγον----χάριν ἔχειν δεῖν, Aa which be- longs to him. And such a combina- tionofnoun and verb amounts 5 really and truly to falsehood in speech. But if speech may be false, so may thought, opinion, and ima- gining. For thought and speech are the same, ex- cept that thought is inward and silent, while speech gives voice to thought. Now in speech there is affirmation and denial: and the correspond- ing deter- mination when tak- ing place in thought, is called Opinion. And Opin- ion, when arising in a medium of sensa- χε tion, is called Ima- gining. 178 OEAT. Πώς: ΠΛΑΤΩ͂ΝΟΣ “ » ΕΣ “ ει A \ / -“ 4 μῶν οὐκ 76n δῆλον ὅτι ταῦτα τὰ γένη ψευδῆ TE καὶ p. 263. ἀληθὴ πάνθ᾽ ἡμῶν ἐν ταῖς ψυχαῖς ἐγγίγνεται ; ie 5, en x “ ΄ / » EE. SOS εἴσει ῥᾷον, ἂν πρῶτον λάβῃς, τί ποτ ΘΈΑΙ. Δίδου μόνον. y , 7 9 > , βέστι καὶ τί διαφέρουσιν ἕκαστ᾽ ἀλλήλων. —_ > - , \ ‘ ͵ >, \ ΜΞ πὰς Οὐκοῦν διάνοια μὲν καὶ Aoyos ταὐτον᾽ πλὴν 7 10 διάνοια; ΘΕΑΙ. Πάνυ μὲν οὖν. « Ἁ 5" \ na a Ν ς \ / 32) ὁ μὲν ἐντὸς τῆς Ψυχῆς πρὸς αὑτὴν διάλογος ἄνευ a / ΄ 3 EN econ > ΄ φωνῆς γιγνόμενος τοῦτ᾽ αὐτὸ ἡμῖν ἐπωνομάσθη, \ ea \ an / GE. To δέ γ᾽ am’ ἐκείνης ῥεῦμα διὰ τοῦ στόματος ΘΕΑΙ͂. ᾿Αληθῆ. ἰὸν μετὰ φθόγγου κέκληται λόγος. \ / DING ΤῊΝ y+ ΞΕ. Καὶ μὴν ev λογοις αὐτὸ iopev ov. ΘΕΑΙ. Τὸ ποῖον : ἘΠῚ, Φάσιν τε καὶ ἀπόφασιν. 4. λάβῃς, τί] αὐτὰ, which some editors insert between these two words, is omitted by the Bodleian, with most other MSS. 6. Δίδου μόνον] The meta- phor implied in λάβης is con- tinued. 7. Οὐκοῦν----ταὐτόν] Cf. Theet. 189 6: τὸ δὲ διανοεῖσθαι ap ὅπερ ἐγὼ καλεῖς ; Τί καλῶν ; Ad- γον, ὃν αὐτὴ πρὸς αὑτὴν ἡ ψυχὴ διεξέρχεται περὶ ὧν ἂν σκοπῆ. In the present passage, as also in Phileb. 38 d, (in the ac- count of 6déa,) the distinction, as well as the likeness, between inward and outward language, is marked out. 12. Τὸ δέ γ᾽ ἀπ᾽ ἐκείνης ῥεῦμα] Cf. Theet. 206 d: τὴν δόξαν > ’ 5» \ 4 “ , εκτυπουμενον ELS τὴν διὰ του στο- "Apa λέγεις ματος ponv. Phileb. 1. 6. : τά τε πρὸς αὑτὸν ῥήματα ἐντείνας εἰς φωνὴν πρὸς τὸν παρόντα αὐτὰ ταῦτ᾽ ἂν πάλιν φθέγξαιτο, καὶ λόγος δὴ γέγονεν οὕτως ὃ τότε δόξαν ἐκαλοῦμεν. 15. αὐτὸ] For αὐτὸ, antici- pating the correlative word, though less distinctly than here, cf. Theet. 207 d: εἶτα ἀμνημονεῖς ἐν τῇ τῶν γραμμάτων μαθήσει Kar ἀρχὰς σαυτόν τε καὶ τοὺς ἄλλους δρῶντας αὐτά: Θ. K7.A, Σ. Ταῦτα λέγω. Herm. unnecessarily conj. αὐτοί: Wagner αὖ τόδ᾽. See also supr. 243 a, ἐκεῖνο, and 256d, where the antece- dent of αὐτὰ had not been distinctly expressed; and ef. Polit. 262 a: τοῦτό ye—NE. Τὸ ποῖον 5 p- 263. p: 264. ΣΟΦΙΣΤΗΣ. ΘΕΙ͂ΑΙ. Ἴσμεν. 179 “ > a a \ ΄, HE. Ὅταν οὖν τοῦτο ἐν ψυχῇ κατὰ διάνοιαν ἐγγίγνηται μετὰ σιγῆς, πλὴν δόξης ἔχεις ὅ τι προσ- 7 » ͵ εἰπῃς QUTO ; GHAI. Kai πώς; BE. Ti δ᾽ ὅταν μὴ καθ᾽ αὑτὴν ἀλλὰ δι αἰσθή- a \ ‘\ a 3 ΄ 3 » er OES 7apy) Tlvtl TO TOLOUTOY AU πάθος, ap OLOV TE > “- > la) oS / \ 7 ορθῶς εἰπεῖν ἐτερὸν τι πλὴν φαντασίαν ; OEAI. Οὐδέν. HE. Οὐκοῦν ἐπείπερ λόγος ἀληθὴς ἦν καὶ wev-10 Thought , , » 7 / \ De \ « \ Ons, τούτων δ᾽ ἐφάνη διάνοια μὲν αὐτῆς πρὸς ἑαυτὴν ψυχῆς διάλογος, δόξα δὲ διανοίας ἀποτελεύτησις, ἃ , > b φαίνεται δὲ ὃ λέγομεν σύμμιξις αἰσθήσεως καὶ δόξης, ἀνάγκη δὴ καὶ τούτων τῷ λόγῳ ξυγγενῶν yy an ᾽ n yf Ne a9) 07 5 OVT@V ψευδὴ τε αὐτῶν ἐνια καὶ ἐνίοτε εἰναι. ΘΈΑΙ. Πώς δ᾽ ov ; EE. Κατανοεῖς οὖν ὅτι πρότερον εὑρέθη ψευδὴς 2. Ὅταν----αὐτὸ] The passage of the Philebus just quoted is exactly parallel. 6. μὴ καθ᾽ αὑτὴν] Se. τῇ ψυχῇ. The distinction here brought out underlies much of the later portion of the Thetetus. The imagination of an absent ob- ject, which is omitted here, is described in Phileb. 38. 4. αὖ] This word is to be taken by an hyperbaton with the whole clause. πάθος] Cf. Theet. 193 d: τὸ τῆς δόξης πάθος. 11. τούτων] Viz. the mental processes. 12. δόξα δὲ διανοίας ἀποτελεύ- tnots| This is vividly expressed in the passage of the Thesetetus above quoted, p. 190 a: ὅταν δὲ (ἡ ψυχὴ) dpicaca, εἴτε Bpadv- τερον, εἴτε καὶ ὀξύτερον ἑπαίξασα, τὸ αὐτὸ ἤδη φῇ καὶ μὴ διστάζῃ, δόξαν ταύτην τίθεμεν αὐτῆς. 13. φαίνεται δὲ ὃ λέγομεν “What we speak of as Imagin- ing.” The same form of ex- pression occurs in Theet. 164 b: τὸ δέ ye οὐχ ὁρᾷ οὐκ ἐπίσταται ἐστιν, εἴπερ καὶ τὸ ὁρᾷ ἐπίσταται. 14. τῷ λύγῳ συγγενῶν ὄντων] This has been shewn in the preceding sentences. αὐτῶν is pleonastic. It is probably im- plied that mere αἴσθησις is nei- ther true nor false. 15. wevd7 — εἶναι], This is shewn by an independent proof in the case of δόξα in the pas- sage of the Philebus above quoted (38 d). Aa 2 σι then being mental self- colloquy, Opinion the completion of thought, and Ima- gining the meeting- point of Opinion and Sense, since speech may be false, so also may these con- geners’ of speech. The search for false- hood has ended sooner than we expected : and we may return with better courage to what re- mains of our origi- nal task. 15 180 δόξα Kat λόγος ἢ κατὰ τὴν προσδοκίαν ἣν ἐφοβή- P- 264. ἢ" ITAATQNOZ y Ἁ VA /, 57 » θημεν ἄρτι, μὴ παντάπασιν ἀνήνυτον ἔργον ἐπιβαλ-- “ “ λοίμεθα ζητοῦντες αὐτό: GCEAI. Κατανοώ. ’ \ ‘ cal 5. EE. Μὴ τοίνυν μηδ᾽ εἰς τὰ λοιπὰ ἀθυμώῶμεν. >’ 4 an ΄- 3) > ἐπειδὴ yap πέφανται ταῦτα, TOY ἔμπροσθεν ἀναμνη- σθῶμεν κατ᾽ εἴδη διαιρέσεων. ΘΕΑΙ. Ποίων δή ; EE. Διειλόμεθα τῆς εἰδωλοποιϊκῆς εἴδη δύο, τὴν OEAI. Nai. \ 5 Χ \ 72 τομέν εἰκαστικὴν, τὴν δὲ φανταστικὴν. A \ 3) ΄- ΕἸ EE. Καὶ τὸν σοφιστὴν εἴπομεν ὡς ἀποροῖμεν εἰς « / i? ὁποτέραν θήσομεν. ΘΈΑΙ. Ἦν ταῦτα. n ΄σ 7 / EE. Kai τοῦθ᾽ ἡμῶν ἀπορουμένων ἔτι μείζων ΄ / A n / a ΄ κατεχύθη σκοτοδινία, φανέντος τοῦ λόγου τοῦ πᾶσιν qn \ 7 / 27 ἀμφισβητοῦντος ὡς οὔτε εἰκὼν οὔτε εἰδωλον οὔτε , 57 ἊΝ ’ xQr \ Ν la φάντασμα εἴη TO παράπαν οὐδὲν διὰ TO μηδαμῶς μηδέποτε μηδαμοῦ ψεῦδος εἶναι. 1. ἣν ἐφοβήθημεν] This cog- nate accusative of the relative occurs several times in Plato, e.g. in Rep. 4,434: viv δ᾽ ἐκ- τελέσωμεν THY σκέψιν ἣν φήθημεν, εἰ---ἐπιχειρήσαιμεν θεάσασθαι, ῥᾷον ἂν ---- κατιδεῖν, Ib. 443 Ὁ: Τέ- λεον ἄρα ἡμῖν τὸ ἐνύπνιον ὃ ἔφαμεν ὑποπτεῦσαι κιτιλ. Lege. 2, 666 Ὁ: παιδιᾶν, ἣν ---- τοῖς ἀνθρώποις ἐδωρήσατο τὸν οἶνον φάρμακον. 2. ἀρτ ἘΣ 2 Ona), ΡΣ ἐπιβαλλοίμεθα] “ Were im- posing on ourselves.” Cf. Tim. 48 d: ὡς ὀρθῶς ἐπιχειροῖμ᾽ ἂν τοσοῦτον ἐπιβαλλόμενος ἔργον. 6. τῶν ἔμπροσθεν ---διαιρέσεωνἾ The thread of argument is now completely resumed from supr. 236. 16. κατεχύθη] Cf. Polit. 302 ¢: τοῦ νῦν ἐπικεχυμένου λόγου κατ᾽ ἀρχάς, Legg. 7, 793 b. The image here seems to be that of a cloud or mist. Compare Hom. 1]. Y. 321: αὐτίκα τῷ μὲν ἔπειτα Kat ὀφθαλμῶν χέεν ἄχλυν. Ib. I. 344: κατὰ δ᾽ ὀφθαλμῶν κέχυτ᾽ ἀχλύς. φανέντος] Cf. ΤΠοεῦ. 199 c: δεινότερον μέντοι πάθος ἄλλο παρα- φαίνεσθαί μοι δοκεῖ. πᾶσιν] Se. τοῖς λεγομένοις. 1. 6. objecting equally to φαν- ταστικὴ, εἰκαστική, and εἰδωλο- ποιϊκή. t= ». 264. ΣΟΦΙΣΤῊΣ. ΘΕΑΙ. Λέγεις ἀληθῆ. ΞΕ. Νῦν δέ γ᾽ ἐπειδὴ πέφανται μὲν λόγος, πέ- x) 5 ΄ 7, κων , φανται δ᾽ οὖσα δόξα ψευδὴς, ἐγχωρεῖ δὴ μιμήματα a 5 / “ τῶν ὄντων εἶναι καὶ τέχνην ἐκ ταύτης γίγνεσθαι τῆς 181 7, διαθέσεως ἀπατητικήν, ΘΕΑΙ. ᾿ἜΠγγχχωρεῖ. \ 3 \ , , EE. Καὶ μὴν ὅτι γ᾽ ἦν ὁ σοφιστὴς τούτων πό- Om A ͵ 53 τερον, διωμολογημένον ἡμῖν ἐν τοῖς πρόσθεν ἦν. ΘΕΑΙ. Ναί. ἴω “ Χ HE. Πάλιν τοίνυν ἐπιχειρῶμεν, σχίζοντες διχῇ τὸ 10 \ 7, , \ aN \ EEN προτεθὲν γένος, πορεύεσθαι κατὰ τοὐπὶ δεξιὰ ἀεὶ ων ᾽ὔ Sy I, a >) An μέρος τοῦ τμηθέντος, ἐχόμενοι τῆς τοῦ σοφιστοῦ , a XN > a \ Ν , / κοινωνίας, EWS ἂν αὐτοῦ τὰ κοινὰ πάντα περιελόντες, XN 5 iM 4 if > iy 7 \ τὴν οἰκείαν λιπόντες φύσιν ἐπιδείξωμεν μάλιστα μὲν Gila 3 a 527 A \ a 7) , a ἡμῖν αὑτοῖς, ἔπειτα δὲ καὶ τοῖς ἐγγυτάτω γένει τῆς τοιαύτης μεθόδου πεφυκόσιν. ΘΕΑΙ. Ὀρθῶς. 4. ταύτης τῆς διαθέσεως] Se. Ψευδοῦς δόξης. 7. τούτων πότερον] “ One or other of these two things.” Hither εἰκαστικός or φανταστικός. 10. Πάλιν τοίνυν ͵] “ Let us therefore go to work again, and dividing in half each kind that is set before us, advance, taking always the right side of that which has been bisected last, and clinging fast to that which holds the Sophist, until, having peeled off all that is common to him with others, we leave only his proper na- ture, and declare this, first and chiefly to ourselves, but also to those besides whose genius is most near of kin to this sort of method.” For κατὰ τοὐπὶ δεξιὰ, cf. Pheedr, 266 a: ὥσπερ δὲ σώματος ἐξ ἑνὸς διπλᾶ καὶ ὁμώνυμα πέφυκε, τὰ μὲν σκαιά, τὰ δὲ δεξιὰ κληθέντα k.T.A. 12. ἐχόμενοι----κοινωνίας} I. 6. Making the participation of the Sophist in each kind our test and clue. The notion of κοινωνία, when once established, is well used. Cf. Thezt. 209 ὁ, μνημεῖον, and note. 15. τοῖς ἐγγυτάτω γένει] Cf, Soph. Ant. 174: γένους κατ᾽ ἀγ- χιστεῖα : and for the meaning, Phedr. 266 Ὁ: τούτων --- αὐ- τός τε ἐραστής---τῶν διαιρέσεων καὶ συναγωγῶν----ἐάν τέ τιν᾽ ἄλλον ἡγήσωμαι δυνατὸν εἰς ἕν καὶ ἐπὶ πολλὰ πεφυκὸς ὁρᾷν, τοῦτον διώκω κατόπισθε μετ᾽ ἴχνιον ὥστε θεοῖο. For ἐπιδείξωμεν, cf. supr. 235 ¢ (where the same thing is spoken of): ἀποφῆναι τὴν ἄγραν. Conclu- sion of I. After dis- tinguishing likeness- making into lmage- making and phan- tastic, we doubted in which com- partment to place the Sophist, when there arose the more im- portant 1 doubt, which we have just resolved, \ > a / > / 7 , 5KQL ἐμπορίικῃ και τισιν ἐν TOLOUTOLS εἴδεσιν ἐφαντά- We are now at li- berty to continue our series of divisions, which be- gan with the distine- ~ tion of cre- ative and acquisitive art. Our previous definitions were ob- tained by following thesections of acquisi- tive art. But as he now ap- pears as an imitator, we must divide crea- 2° tive art, of which the making of imitations is obviously a branch. 1Ιο 15 182 IMAATQNOS μ-ὶ > ~ , \ > ͵ HE. Οὐκοῦν τότε μὲν ἠρχόμεθα ποιητικὴν καὶ Ρ-. 265: \ κτητικὴν τέχνην διαιρούμενοι ; OEAI. Ναί. — a Ν “-“ ~ » lal EH. Καὶ τῆς κτητικῆς ἐν θηρευτικῇ καὶ ἀγωνίᾳ CeO” ἡμῖν ; ΘΈΑΙ. Πάνυ μὲν οὖν. HE. Νῦν δέ γ᾽ ἐπειδὴ μιμητικὴ περιείληφεν αὐτὸν 7 > ε τέχνη; δῆλον ὡς αὐτὴν τὴν ποιητικὴν δίχα διαιρετέον 7 « “ > πρώτην. ἡ γὰρ που μίμησις ποίησίς Tis ἐστιν, εἰδώλων μέντοι, φαμέν, ἀλλ᾽ οὐκ αὐτῶν ἑκάστων. ἢ 7 γάρ; ΘΈΑΙ. Παντάπασι μὲν οὖν. EE. ΠΠοιητικῆς δὴ πρῶτον δύο ἔστω μέρη. ΘΕΑΙ. Molo ; HE. To μὲν θεῖον, τὸ δ᾽ ἀνθρώπινον. ΘΕΑΙ. Οὔπω μεμάθηκα. Lara “4 57 “ \ > > a\ SE. ΤΠοιητικὴν, εἴπερ μεμνήμεθα Ta Kar apyas λεχθέντα, πᾶσαν ἔφαμεν εἶναι δύναμιν, ἥ τις ἂν αἰτία γίγνηται τοῖς μὴ πρότερον οὖσιν ὕστερον γίγνεσθαι. CEAI. Μεμνήμεθα. HE. Zaa δὴ πάντα θνητὰ καὶ φυτά, ὅσα τ᾽ ἐπὶ rn ’ ΄ Ae > 7 Ge y γῆς ἐκ σπερμάτων καὶ ῥιζῶν φύεται Kal ὅσα ἀψυχα I. ἠρχόμεθα---διαιρ. “We be- gan by dividing.” 5. ἐφαντάζεθ᾽ ἡμῖν] Sic Bodl. “ We had glimpses of him.” 9. δῆλον ὡς αὐτὴν τὴν ποιητι- κὴν] “The very art of mak- 11. αὐτῶν ἑκάστων] That this phrase is vernacular and ποῦ technical appears from Aesch. Prom. 952: ἀλλ᾽ αὐθ᾽ ἕκαστ᾽ ἐκ- φράζε. Compare also Aristotle’s αὐθέκαστός τις. Eth. N.IV.7, § 4. ing,’ of which image-making is a part. We have here an example of the mental initia- tive by which the one idea is found which is afterwards divi- ded, according to Phileb. 16 e. 18. κατ᾽ ἀρχὰς] P. 219 Ὁ: πᾶν ὅπερ ἂν μὴ πρότερόν τις ὃν ὕστερον εἰς οὐσίαν ἄγῃ. 22. φυτά, ὅσα τ’ ----τηκτα] The notion οἵ φυτὰ is expanded by an afterthought. , ΣΟΦΙΣΤΗΣ. 189 3 Lal / / \ yy “~ Ῥ- 265. ἐν yn ξυνίσταται σώματα τηκτὰ καὶ ἄτηκτα, μῶν d ἄλλου τινὸς ἢ θεοῦ δημιουργοῦντος φήσομεν ὕστερον 6 / > Ε ΗΑ ΝΟ la a NAG γίγνεσθαι πρότερον οὐκ ὄντα; ἢ τῷ τῶν πολλῶν δόγματι καὶ ῥήματι χρώμενοι ; ΘΕΑΙ, Ποίῳ: --- nn; \ 7 Oo AY A 4 λων 9. 7 =H. Te τὴν φύσιν αὐτὰ γεννᾷν ἀπὸ τινος αἰτίας τ ΄ NC, , , x Ν ΄ QUT OLATNS και QVEV διανοίας φυουσης" 1) μετα λογου τε καὶ ἐπιστήμης θείας ἀπὸ θεοῦ γιγνομένης ; ΘΕΑΙ. ᾿Εγὼ μὲν ἴσως διὰ τὴν ἡλικίαν πολλάκις ἀμφότερα μεταδοξαζω: νῦν μὴν βλέπων εἰς σὲ καὶ το € , 3, / / Ν ϑ ΩΝ , ὑπολαμβάνων οἰεσθαὶ σε κατὰ ye θεὸν αὑτὰ yiyve- / Ν > N , σθαι, ΤαυτΉ καὶ GUTOS νενομικα. Creative art is, 1st, divine and human. For to God, working by reason, and not to any mere spon- taneity of nature, is to be re- ferred the origin of animals, vegetables and mine- rals. ΓΞ: a 5 , ΄ ΄ HE. Καλῶς γε, ὦ Θεαίτητε. καὶ εἰ μὲν γέ σε Theetetus, e , a ᾽ Ν ΒΥ / 2) ἡγούμεθα τῶν εἰς τὸν ἐπεῖτα χρόνον ἄλλως πως although young, is inclined to δοξαζόντων εἶναι, viv av τῷ λόγῳ μετὰ πειθοῦς 15 this opin- 9 t γᾳ μ 5 this OF 3 ’, » a r e Fe 5 \ a7 ἀναγκαίας ἐπεχειροῦμεν ποιεῖν Opodoyelv’ ἐπειδὴ δὲ / XN / oS Ν y+ a " σοὺ καταμανθανω ΤῊΡ φύσιν, OTL Καὶ QYVEV τῶν Tap - > i SEN , 3. 5 Ge a “ ἡμῶν λογων αὑτὴ πρόσεισιν eh ἅπερ νῦν ἕλκεσθαι I. τὴἠκτὰ καὶ ἄτηκτα] 1.6. Me- tals and other minerals. 4. χρώμενοι] Se. φήσομεν γίγνεσθαι. The following passage con- tains the same religious spirit which is more fully expressed in the Timeeus and in tbe toth book of the Laws; cf. esp. Legg. 10, 889-892. Also Phi- leb. 28 d, e. II. κατά ye θεόν] ““ At least in accordance with the nature of God.” 13. Καλῶς ye, ὦ Θεαίτητε. With similar warmth in Theet. 185 e there is welcomed the assertion of the independent activity of the mind: Καλὸς yap εἶ, ὦ ©.,—6 yap καλῶς λέγων, καλός τε κἀγαθός. 15. δοξαζόντων] “Of that class of persons who in later life think otherwise.” The present participle has almost become a noun, and has lost the tempo- ral meaning. μετὰ πειθοῦς ἀναγκαίας] This “ demonstrative persuasion ” is advanced in the roth book of the Laws, where it is shewn that Mind is prior to the elements of Nature, and that the best mind rules. Cf. esp. pp. 888 e sqq., 891 ¢, 892 b, 896 c, 897 ¢. See also ibst2,9O7.G: | fam. “Gye: πειθοῦς ἀναγκαίας] “ The per- suasion of demonstration.” ion, and the Stran- ger, consi- dering the nobility of his nature, 184 ΠΛΑΤΩΝΟΣ 5 f , ἢ , \ a 7 ᾽ Ε thinks it bys, ἐάσω χρόνος γὰρ ἐκ περιττοῦ γίγνοιτ᾽ ἀν. P. 265) | unneces- 5 κ᾿ , \ \ » 7 κι ᾿ ] sary, by ἀλλὰ θήσω τὰ μεν φύσει λεγόμενα ποιεῖσθαι θείᾳ further argument, / \ > » 7 «9 > 7 / TEXVN), Τα, ὃ €K TOUT@Y VT ἀνθρώπων ξννιστάμενα to antici- > / ΩΝ \ lal \ Ν / [4 pate the ἀνθρωπίνῃ, καὶ κατὰ τοῦτον δὴ τὸν λόγον δύο ποιη- effect of a 7 Ν \ > / 9 Ν \ rn time. 5 τικῆς γένη, TO μὲν ἀνθρώπινον εἶναι, TO δὲ θεῖον. ΘΕΑΙ. ᾿᾽Ορθώς. EE. Τέμνε δὴ δυοῖν οὔσαιν δίχα ἑκατέραν αὖθις. OEAI. Πώς: = EB Oi. / \ ἈΝ , / Ἀ 1, (λον tore μὲν κατὰ πλᾶτος τέμνων τὴν ποι- But, 2ndly, divine and human art are each divided into an art of making τὸ LK . a cs δ \ a ee epee ts TO) RCCL TOG, YS mn δὲ αὖ κατὰ μῆκος. OEAI. Τετμησθω. and an art of likeness- fest ‘4 \ DA “ \ 7 , =i. Terrapa μὴν αὐτῆς οὕτω τὰ πάντα μέρη making. / / \ \ XN «ε 4 > fe / > γίγνεται, Ovo μὲν τὰ πρὸς ἡμῶν, ἀνθρώπεια, δύο ὃ Ss \ AN a an av Ta πρὸς θεῶν, θεῖα. 13 ΘΒΑΙ. Ναί μι N 7.33) ee 7 5 ΄ , nN GE. Ta d€ y ws ἑτέρως αὖ διῃρημένα, μέρος μὲν A 5 ’ « iA “ 7] >’ / \ 3 ev ad ἑκατέρας τῆς μερίδος αὐτοποιητικὸν, To ὃ ΄ ͵ XN , xX ὑπολοίπω σχεδὸν μάλιστ᾽ ἂν λεγοίσθην εἰδωλο- oe 7 ςς A lal \ , e Χ an TOUKO. καὶ κατὰ ταῦτα On πάλιν ἡ ποιητικὴ διχῇ 20 διαιρεῖται. OEAI. Λέγε ὅπῃ ἑκατέρα αὖθις. T. χρόνος yap ἐκ περιττοῦ γί- yor av] “For to do other- wise would be to supersede the work of Time.” 2. ta—gpice] Hither φύσει has almost the force of an adj., as in Rep. 6, 501 b (τὸ φύσει δίκαιον x.7.A.); and λεγόμενα is added pleonastically, like the participle in δεινότητες Soxod- oa, Theet. 176 d: or, per- haps better, the infinitive ποι- εἶσθαι is to be repeated with λεγόμενα. 9. κατὰ πλάτος ----κατὰ μῆκος] Compare Pheedr. 266 a, already quoted. 13. πρὸς ἡμῶν --- πρὸς θεῶν] “On our side, on the side of the Gods.” 16. Ta δέ γ᾽ ὡς ἑτέρως] “ Then as to the divisions which were made in the other way.” ὡς is pleonastic, as in ὡς ἀληθῶς. 17. αὐτοποιητικόν] The art of making the things themselves. 21. Λέγε--- αὖθις] “Tell me once more how each (ποιητική θεία, ἀνθρωπίνη) is divided (διαι- peira).” / | | aa p. 266. ΣΟΦΙΣΤΗΣ. 185 — I “ 3 ~ Ὁ EE. Ἡμεῖς μέν που καὶ τάλλα ζῶα καὶ ἐξ ὧν τὰ (2) hee) / A 9 \ / , πεφυκοτ᾽ ἐστί, πῦρ Kal ὕδωρ καὶ τὰ τούτων ἀδελφά, a / 7 ΕἾ) > \ / θεοῦ γεννήματα πάντα ἴσμεν αὐτὰ ἀπειργασμένα a a “- εκαστα ἢ TOS ; ΘΕΑΙ. Οὕτως. — / 3 ΞΕ, Τούτων δέ γε ἑκάστων εἴδωλα, ἀλλ᾽ οὐκ 3 ’ / / a al αὐτά, παρέπεται, δαιμονίᾳ καὶ ταῦτα μηχανῇ yeyo- , VOTQ. OEAI. Ποῖα; —= / o σ a) τῷ / eE..Ta re ev τοῖς ὕπνοις καὶ ὅσα μεθ᾽ ἡμέραν φανταάσ. ara αὐτοφυῆ λέγεται σκιὰ μὲν ὅταν ἐν τῷ μ ἢ λέγεται, σκιὰ μ τῷ Ν / 3 , a \ εἰ γὼ» Ἃ a πυρὶ σκότος ἐγγίγνηται, διπλοῦν δὲ ἡνίκ ἂν φώς > aT Neues / Ν \ N Ν a > οἰκεῖον TE καὶ ἀλλότριον περὶ τὰ AapTTPA καὶ λεῖα εἰς 1. ἐξ ὧν ta] The same use of the article occurs in a simi- lar connexion in Protag. 320 6: καὶ τῶν ὅσα πυρὶ Kal γῇ κεράν- Ψνυται. 8. αὐτὰ---ἕκαστα] Ut supra: opposed to ἐκάστων εἴδωλα infra. 4. mapemera.—infr. ¢, παρα- κολουθοῦν] So παρακολουθεῖ in Theet. 158 c, of dreams an- swering to realities. 11. φαντάσματα αὐτοφυῆ] Na- tural images, opposed to arti- ficial ones, such as those of the painter. σκιὰ μὲν---διπλοῦν δέ] The latter word is not forthcoming in Rep. 6, 510 a: λέγω δὲ τὰς εἰκόνας πρῶτον μὲν τὰς σκιάς, ἔπειτα τὰ ἐν τοῖς ὕδασι φαντά- σματα καὶ ἐν τοῖς ὅσα πυκνά τε καὶ λεῖα καὶ hava συνέστηκε. For other observations on optical reflexion, cf. Thezt.193 c, Tim. 43- 12. The words φῶς οἰκεῖον καὶ ἀλλότριον----εἰς Ev συνελθόν (“the light belonging to things bright and smooth meeting in one upon their surface with the light from another object”) may be illustrated by compar- ing Tim. 46 a: ἐκ yap τῆς ἐκτὸς ἐντός τε τοῦ πυρὸς ἑκατέρου κοινω- νίας, ἐνός τε αὖ περὶ τὴν λειότητα γενομένου. Objects which give a perfect reflection, such as smooth water, polished metal, &¢., were supposed to have in them a luminous prin- ciple which met on the smooth surface with the light from the reflected object, just as the fire in the eye encountered the ex- ternal fire in the act of vision. It appears from the same pas- sage compared with Theeet. l.c., that the words τῆς ἔμπροσθεν εἰωθυίας ὄψεως ἐναντίαν αἴσθησιν refer to the transposition of right and left in the reflected image. ἑκάστοτε Bb 10 Divinely made like- nesses are, for in- stance, thosewhich appear in dreams, and, in the day-time, shadows and reflec- tions, And, as a house is a humanly- made real- ity, so the picture of a house is a sort of humanly- created waking dream. 5 Io 186 ὃ “ 3, > / ev ξυνελθὸν τῆς ἔμπροσθεν εἰωθυίας ὄψεως ἐναντίαν p. 266}). ΠΛΑΤΏΝΟΣ ” 4 3 > 76% αἰσθησιν παρέχον εἰδος ἀπεργάζηται. ΘΕΑΙ. Δύο γὰρ οὖν ἐστὶ ταῦτα θείας ἔργα / > / Ν Ν “- 7 ποιήσεως, αὐτὸ TE καὶ TO παρακολουθοῦν εἰδωλον « / EKACTO. A e / / oh) 5 2 ἈΝ HE. Τί δὲ τὴν ἡμετέραν τέχνην ; ap οὐκ αὑτὴν > “ ΄σ “ / μὲν οἰκίαν οἰκοδομικῇ φήσομεν ποιεῖν, γραφικῇ δέ - A > / > ΄ > TW ἑτέραν, οἷον ὄναρ ἀνθρώπινον ἐγρηγορόσιν ἀπειρ- γασμένην ; ΘΕΑΙ. Πάνυ μὲν οὖν. ΄ 5 δ \ / \ f EE. Οὐκοῦν καὶ τάλλα οὕτω κατὰ Ovo διττὰ ἔργα a c 3 ἴω 7 Ἂ, \ f TNS ἡμετέρας αὖ ποιητικὴς πράξεως, τὸ μὲν αὐτό, / SS \ "7 οι ΟΝ φαμέν, αὐτουργική, τὸ δὲ εἴδωλον εἰδωλοποιϊκη. ΘΕΑΙ. Νῦν μᾶλλον ἔμαθον, καὶ τίθημι δύο διχῇ τ ποιητικῆς εἴδη" θεία μὲν καὶ Τανθρωπίνη κατὰ ᾽ὔ a ΝΥ \ U7 XN A 5 los 35) Χ θάτερον τμῆμα, κατὰ δὲ θάτερον τὸ μὲν αὐτῶν ον, τὸ Woe [2 na , δὲ ὁμοιωμάτων τινῶν γέννημα. 6. ἡμετέραν] 1. 6. ἀνθρωπίνην. φήσομεν is to be. supplied from what follows. av’tny — oixiav] “A real house.” Not the ideal house, as in Rep. το, 597 6: αὐτὴν---- ὃ ἔστι κλίνη. 8. ὄναρ ἀνθρώπινον] I. 6. As dreams are a kind of divine pictures, so a picture may be described as a human dream. ἐγρηγορόσιν] “ For those who are awake.” 11. κατὰ δύο] Like καθ᾽ ἕν, κατ᾽ ὄλιγον. “ By twos.” “In pairs.” Cf. Thezet. 156 Ὁ. 12. τὸ-- αὐτὸ] “The thing itself.” The grammar seems to require αὐτουργικῆ-----οἰδωλοποι- uns. But there may be a change of construction from ἔργα (ἐστι) τῆς ποιητικῆς to av- τουργική (ἐστι ποιοῦσα) τὸ αὐτό. Compare the transition imme- diately below, from ποιητικὴ to γέννημα, from the art to the work. 14. δύο διχῇ] “Two in two ways :” i.e. (a) divine, human ; (6) reality, shadow. 15. Teiat μὲν καὶ Τἀνθρωπίνη 1] Probably θείαν μ. κ. ἀνθρωπίνην, as Heind. observes. τό. αὐτῶν] “ Of things them- selves.” Although the fourfold division, in Rep. 6 sub fin, of the intelligible and visible is different and has a different object, it is prompted by a fancy very similar to that which rules in the present passage. 17. γέννημα] For this use of the neuter word where the ). 266. Db. 207. ΣΟΦΙΣΤΗΣ. 187 ΞΕ. Τῆς τοίνυν εἰδωλουργικῆς ἀναμνησθῶμεν ὅτι ὯΝ \ > f? Ν \ A + 3 TO μεν εἰκαστικον, τὸ δὲ φανταστικὸν ἐμελλεν εἰναι 7 > δι a 57 ἋΟ An Ν a ΕΣ γένος, εἰ τὸ ψεῦδος ὀντως ὃν ψεῦδος καὶ τῶν ὄντων oa / i ἐν TL φανείη πεφυκὸς. ΘΕΑΙ. Ἦν γὰρ οὖν. ΞΕ, Οὐκοῦν ἐφάνη τε καὶ διὰ ταῦτα δὴ καταρι- θμήσομεν αὐτὼ νῦν ἀναμφισβητήτως εἴδη δύο ; ΘΕΑ,ΑΙ. Ναί. ΞΕ. To τοίνυν φανταστικὸν αὖθις διορίζωμεν δίχα. GEAI. Πη; τισὶ \ \ > 3 2p , εν \ > A HH. To μὲν dv ὀργάνων yryvopevov, To δὲ αὐτοῦ , ε Ν ay a a Ν ΄ TAPEKXOVTOS E€AUTOV Opyavov TOU ποίουντος TO φαν- τασμα. ΘΕΑΙ. Πῶς φής: ἘΠῚ] 9 3 Ν Ν rn , an e = BE. Ὅταν, οἶμαι, τὸ σὸν σχῆμα τις τῷ EAVTOU 7 / / Ἃ \ a / χρώμενος σώματι προσομοιον ἢ φωνὴν φωνῇ patve- σθαι ποιῇ, μίμησις τοῦτο τῆς φανταστικῆς μάλιστα / / κέκληται που. OEAI. Ναί. =A M \ δὴ cot See eS , 3 ΕΞ... ἐμήητικον OF) TOUTO αὐτὴς προσείποντες αἀπο- feminine was rather to be ex- pected, cf. infr. 267 ¢, μίμημα, Polit. 289 Ὁ, θρέμμας As the act sometimes becomes the ob- ject of the verb (in the con- struction known . as cognate accusative), so the noun ex- pressive of the object is some- times put for the act. See General Introduction. 2. ἔμελλεν] P. 236 ἃ, 6. 7. αὐτὼ] Se. εἰκαστικὴ καὶ φανταστική. τό. Ὅταν---ποῦ] In this sen- tence προσόμοιον φαίνεσθαι ποιῇ is equivalent to ἀφομοιῶται : cf. φαίνεσθαι ποιεῖν below. “When any one represents or nearly represents your appear- ance by means of his own body, or your voice by his voice, imitation is the name for this branch of the phan- tastic art.” 17. φωνῇ] Governed by χρώ- μενος. 21. ἀπονειμώμεθα] “ Part off for our own share.” Cf, Pheedr. 206 Ὁ, τεμνόμενος. Bb 2 Next fol- lows the distinction, which was before pro- visionally made, be- tween Image- making and. Phan- tastic ; the creation of a real and an appa- rent like- ness of a thing. Of 10 these,phan- tastic may be again divided. And one kind is called impersona- tion or ys mimicry. Mimicry is sometimes with know- ledge, 188 MAATOQNOZ νειμώμεθα" 7, ε ΄σ Δ Ν / καὶ παρέντες ἑτέρῳ συναγαγεῖν τε εἰς Ev καὶ πρέπου- Ὁ τὸ δ᾽ ἄλλο πᾶν ἀφῶμεν μαλακισθέντες p. 267. > / > “-“ / > > “ σᾶν ἐπωνυμιὰν ἀποδοῦναί τιν aUT®. OEFAI. Νενεμήσθω, τὸ δὲ μεθείσθω. ΄ ‘ A 54 ca) 3 , SE. Kai μὴν καὶ τοῦτο ere διπλοῦν, ὦ Θεαίτητε, ἄξιον ἡγεῖσθαι: δι ἃ δέ, σκόπει. ΘΕΑΙ. Λέγε. A / ε \ / a “ ZE. Tov μιμουμένων οἱ μὲν εἰδότες ὃ μιμοῦνται a 7 ε 3 > »ὼ ἢ" τοῦτο πράττουσιν, οἱ δ᾽ οὐκ εἰδότες. / / και TOL TWA sometimes τὸ μείζω διαίρεσιν ἀγνωσίας τε Kal γνώσεως θή- without. There are those, for COMED 5 OEAI. Θύδεμίαν. SE. Οὐκοῦν τό γε ἄρτι τ εἰδότων ἦν μί- papa. 15 μιμήσαιτο. GEAI. [las δ᾽ ov; τὸ γὰρ σὸν σχῆμα καὶ σὲ γιγνώσκων ἂν τις EE. Τί δὲ δικαιοσύνης τὸ σχῆμα καὶ ὅλης ξυλ- λήβδην ἀρετῆς ; ap οὐκ ἀγνοοῦντες μέν, δοξάζοντες δέ πῃ, σφόδρα ἐπιχειροῦσι πολλοὶ τὸ δοκοῦν σφίσι a e CSS >’ r r VA r 20TOUTO ὡς ἐνὸν αὐτοῖς προθυμεῖσθαι φαίνεσθαι ποιεῖν, 7 7 y+ Ν f / ὁ τι μάλιστα Epyols TE καὶ AOYOLS μιμουμενοι 5 ΘΕΑΙ. Καὶ πάνυ γε πολλοί. EE. Μῶν οὖν πάντες I. μαλακισθέντες] ““ Shrink- ing from further effort.” Cf. supY. 241 €: ἀποστησόμεθα viv μαλθακισθέντες : 9. τοῦτο πράττουσιν ]Ὶ Se. μιμοῦνται. 13. μίμημα] The result is again substituted for the act, as In γέννημα supra 267 a. 17.70 σχῆμα] Governed by pu- μοῦνται implied in what follows. 18. dp’ οὐκ----μιμούμενοι ;] “Is - an ΄-“ ἀποτυγχάνουσι τοῦ δοκεῖν it not notorious that many, who have no knowledge but an opinion of some kind about these things, use all their might to make it appear that they have in them that which an- swers to their own opinion, impersonating this in actions and words as far as they can ?” Cf. Rep. 2, 365 ¢: πρόθυρα μὲν καὶ σχῆμα κύκλῳ περὶ ἐμαυτὸν σκιαγραφίαν ἀρετῆς περιγραπτέον. .. 267. ᾳ ΣΟΦΙΣΤΗΣ. 189 53 tal 7 ΕΝ / lad > εἶναι δίκαιοι μηδαμῶς ὄντες ; ἢ τούτου πᾶν TOU- / ναντίον ; OEAI. Πᾶν. A oS / / SE. Μιμητὴν δὴ τοῦτόν ye ἕτερον ἐκείνου λεκτέον 3 Ν lal a / οἶμαι, TOY ἀγνοοῦντα TOU γιγνώσκοντος. ΘΕΑΙ. Nai. / 3 7 ε , las / HE. Πόθεν οὖν ὄνομα ἑκατέρῳ τις αὐτῶν λήψεται 7 ἊἋ “ \ δ A ΄ la a πρέπον ; ἢ δῆλον On χαλεπὸν ov, διότι τῆς τῶν ἴω > ’ὔ’ 327 γενῶν Kar εἴδη διαιρέσεως παλαιά τις, ὡς ἔοικεν, / la 3, / a v > αἰτία τοῖς ἔμπροσθεν καὶ ἀσύννους παρῆν, ὥστε μηδ > tal 7 a Ν \ cal > ’ ἐπιχειρεῖν μηδένα διαιρεῖσθαι" καθὸ δὴ τῶν ὀνομάτων ρος \ , 3 a “ ΄, Ἃ > ἀνάγκη μὴ σφόδρα εὐπορεῖν. ὅμως δέ, Kay εἰ τολμη- a 9 XN \ A porepov εἰρῆσθαι, διαγνώσεως ἕνεκα THY μὲν μετὰ / / \ 7 Χ \ δόξης μίμησιν δοξομιμητικὴν προσείπωμεν, τὴν δὲ μετ᾽ ἐπιστήμης ἱστορικήν τινα μίμησιν. OEAI. Ἔστω. ἘΠῚ Θ / U / 5 ε Ν \ peony ατέρῳῷ τοινυν XPYTTEOV O yap σοφιστὴς 39 » n WEA 5 > > 3 an , οὐκ ἐν τοῖς εἰδοσιν ἦν, GAN ἐν τοῖς μιμουμέ- νοις δή. ΘΕΑΙ. Καὶ μάλα. ΞΕ. Τὸν δοξομιμητὴν δὴ σκοπώμεθα ὥσπερ I. μηδαμῶς ὄντες] An under- current of strong feeling is per- ceptible here and in σφόδρα supra, as in Rep. 7, 531 6: ov yap που δοκοῦσί σοι οἱ ταῦτα δεινοὶ διαλεκτικοὶ εἶναι. ἔφη, εἰ μὴ μάλα γέ τινες ὄλιγοι οἷς ἐγὼ ἐντετύχηκα. 9. παλαιά----παρῆν] Ancient, and therefore hard to discover —void of reflection, or com- prehensive thought, and there- fore without principles. Com- pare Bacon’s complaint of the vagueness of common language > \ A "> Οὐ pa τὸν Al, about physical qualities. 10. ἀσύννου] Cf. Legg. 7, 799 6: καθάπερ οἱ παλαιοὶ τότε περὶ κιθαρῳδίαν οὕτω πως, ὡς ἔοι- κεν, ὠνόμασαν, ὥστε τάχ᾽ ἂν οὐδ᾽ ἐκεῖνοι παντάπασί γ᾽ ἀφεστῶτες εἶεν τοῦ νῦν λεγομένου, Kab” ὕπνον δὲ οἷόν πού τις ἢ καὶ ὕπαρ ἐγρη- γορὼς ὠνείρωξε μαντευόμενος αὐτό. 18. οὐκ ἐν τοῖς εἰδόσιν ἦν] Ῥ. 233 d. ἀλλ᾽ ἐν----δὴ] ‘But he does appear amongst the class of imitators.” instance, who per- sonatetheir own notion of justice, without knowing what jus- 5 tice really is. For this branch of nimicry, through the remiss- ness of the first name- givers, it is difficult 10 to find a name. ** Notion- mimicry 15 the nearest we can find. This also may be either innocent, when the mimic is unconsci- ous of his ignorance, or dissem- bling. Of the dissem- bling no- tion-mimic there are two kinds : one, which dissembles before a multitude ; the other, which makes a false im- pression on individuals by means of Eristie argument ; in other words, the clap- trap orator, and—the Sophist : x7 > A 7 "Ὁ 7 cal a ΄ 5 εὐήθης αὐτῶν ἐστίν, οἰόμενος εἰδέναι ταῦτα ἃ δοξάζει" p. 268 190 / 7 « ‘ ΕΣ / y> Ww , > . . σίδηρον, εἴτε ὑγιὴς εἴτε διπλόην eT ἔχων τινα ἐστιν p. 46} » c ΄- εν €AUTO. ΘΕΑΙ. Σκοπῶμεν. 7 / / BE. "Ἔχει τοίνυν καὶ μάλα συχνήν. ΠΛΑΤΩΏΝΟΣ ὁ μὲν γὰρ Ν \ a \ > ΄σ΄ τὸ δὲ θατέρου σχῆμα διὰ τὴν ἐν τοῖς λόγοις κυλίν- 5, «ε / € ~ Onow ἔχει πολλὴν ὑποψίαν καὶ φόβον ws ἀγνοεῖ fal aA \ \ yy c xa ΧΝ 5» , ταῦτα ἃ πρὸς τοὺς ἄλλους ὡς εἰδως ἐσχηματισται. 7 3 3, ς 2 OEHAI. Πάνυ μὲν οὖν ἔστιν ἑκατέρου γένους ὧν το εἴρηκας. 15 EH O > A \ \ « A 7, Ν δὲ 1. Οὐκοῦν τὸν pev ἁπλοῦν μιμητὴν τινα, TOY OE εἰρωνικὸν μιμητὴν θήσομεν ; ΘΕΑΙ. Εἰκὸς γοῦν. EE. Τούτου δ᾽ αὖ τὸ γένος ἕν ἢ δύο φῶμεν ; ΘΕΑΙ. Ὅρα σύ. EE. Σκοπῶ, καί μοι διττὼ καταφαίνεσθόν τινε’ τὸν μὲν δημοσίᾳ τε καὶ μακροῖς λόγοις πρὸς πλήθη Ν , a N \ δυνατὸν εἰρωνεύεσθαι καθορῶ, τὸν δὲ ἰδίᾳ τε, καὶ 1. εἴτε διπλόην ͵]ὴ Various figures are employed to give greater vividness to the notion of division. Cf. supr. 229 b. Polit. 259 d: ἂν ἄρα ἐν αὐτῇ Tb. 260: θεατέον εἴ πὴ διέστηκε. Ib. φότ: εἴ τινα τομὴν ἔτι ἔχομεν ὑπ- είκουσαν ἐν τούτῳ. Pheedr. 268 a: εἰ ἄρα καὶ σοὶ φαίνεται διεστηκὸς αὐτῶν τὸ ἠτρίον ὥσπερ ἐμοί. 5. αὐτῶν] τῶν δοξομιμητῶν. 6. τὸ δὲ θατέρου σχῆμα---ἐσχη- μάτισται] ‘ But it is part of the form in which the other appears that from the constant practice of discussion he cannot but suspect and fear that he is ignorant of the things which 4 A , τινὰ διαφυὴν κατανοήσωμεν. he wears the appearance before other men of knowing.” “There is in his attitude an unmis- takeable air of misgiving and fear.” κυλίνδησιν] Cf. Thest. 172 ¢: οἱ ev δικαστηρίοις καὶ τοῖς τοιού- τοις ἐκ νέων κυλινδούμενοι. 9. ἔστιν ---- εἴρηκας 1 “ There certainly is a character belong- ing to each of the two kinds you have described.” Or 6 δοξομιμ. ἔστιν ἑκατέρου γένους. 12. εἰρωνικὸν] “ Hollow, in- sincere, designing.” εἰρωνικὸς occurs again (and again in a bad sense) in Legg. ro, 90ὃ e. 18. ἰδίᾳ re] Se. εἰρωνεύεσθαι δυνατόν. ΣΟΦΙΣΤΗΣ. 101 ip. 268. βραχέσι λόγοις ἀναγκάζοντα τὸν προσδιαλεγόμενον ἐναντιολογεῖν αὐτὸν αὑτῷ. OEAI. Λέγεις ὀρθότατα. EE. Τίνα οὖν ἀποφαινώμεθα τὸν μακρολογώτερον 3 “ ἊΝ ΕΣ 7 εἰναι ; πότερα πολιτικὸν ἢ δημολογικὸν : 5 GEAI. Δημολογικόν. EE. Τί δὲ τὸν ἕτερον ἐροῦμεν ; σοφὸν ἢ σοφι- [4 στικον : ΘΕΑΙ. *To* μέν που σοφὸν ἀδύνατον, ἐπείπερ οὐκ εἰδότα αὐτὸν ἔθεμεν: μιμητὴς δ᾽ ὧν τοῦ σοφοῦ δῆλον σ 7 > A OTL TWAPMVULLOV AUTOV TL ὔὕ o ~ x μεμαθηκα ore τοῦτον δεῖ λήψεται, καὶ σχεδὸν ἤδη vad ’ ad SON προσειπεῖν ἀληθῶς αὑτὸν » a Ν i 57 ’ εκεινον τὸν πανταῖτασιν OVTWS σοφιστὴν. a / lal , 32, SE. Οὐκοῦν συνδήσομεν αὐτοῦ, καθάπερ ἔμπρο- EA / » XN “ ΜΝ σθεν, τοὔνομα συμπλέξαντες amo τελευτῆς ἐπ ἀρχήν ; 2. ἐναντιολογεῖν] It now ap- pears how much of the claim advanced in Ὁ. 231 a is granted to the Sophist. He is allowed to possess that portion of the Eristic art which is not based on knowledge, but on the prac- tice of argument. Cf. also Ῥ. 225 ἃ, 6. 9. *To*] MSS. τόν. Ste- phanus, followed by the other editors, corrected this into τὸ, with great probability. 11. παρωνύμιον] The vague- ness of this derivation renders it more correct than Hegel’s from the imaginary σοφίζειν, “to make wise,” or Bentham’s, who took σοφιστὴς for a super- lative. 12. μεμάθηκα] “I now clearly understand that this is he whom I must address as the very man of whom we are in search, the unmistakeably real and genuine Sophist.” αὐτὸν ἐκεῖνον [7 ‘There is again a transition from the name to the thing. 14. καθάπερ ἔμπροσθεν] P.226 a. For ἀπὸ τελευτῆς ἐπ᾽ ἀρχὴν, cf. Lege. 1, 768 6: τὴν ἀρχὴν νῦν τελευτῇ προσάψας. By the process of division the Sophist is thrust down into the lowest sphere of imitative (i.e. unreal) art, much in the same way in which pleasure finds the lowest place in the Philebus ; and poetry, in Rep. 1o, is thrice removed from truth (597 e), where there is also the same division of di- vine and human art. So the actual Politicians are found low down amongst the class of _ μι ο 192 IMAATQNOS ΣΟΦΙΣΤΗΣ. SEAI. Πάνυ μὲν οὖν. ΞΕ. Tov δὴ τῆς ἐναντιοποιολογικῆς εἰρωνικοῦ / “ lal / “ “ μέρους τῆς δοξαστικῆς μιμητικόν, τοῦ φανταστικοῦ / > lad " “.“.“- » ΄σ » > γένους ἀπὸ τῆς εἰδωλοποιϊκῆς ov θεῖον ἀλλ᾽ ἀνθρω- Ν a , > / > / ‘ 5πικὸν τῆς ποιήσεως ἀφωρισμένον ἐν Aoyols TO θαυ- “ὯΝ 7, , “ “ Ν a ματοποίικον [LOPLOV, TAUTNS TIS γενεᾶς TE Και αιματος & x a \ vy \ 3 > / e os av φῇ Tov ὀντως σοφιστὴν εἶναι, τἀληθέστατα, ὡς yy > ΄σ EOLKEV, ἐρει. ΘΕΑΙ. Παντάπασι μὲν οὖν. servants (Polit. 289 4), and in the series of transmigrations given in the Phedrus, 248 6, the eighth place (between the artificer and the tyrant) is as- signed to the life of the So- phist or the public man. 2. Tov δὴ] I have ven- tured to retain τὸν against Schleiermacher, who reads τό, and to give ἀφωρισμένον a middle signification. “ The artist of the contradiction-caus- ing, conscious section of un- knowing mimicry, who has taken for his own the word- juggling portion of human, not divine, creation, in the phan- tastic species of likeness-mak- ing, such undeniably is the lineage of the true Sophist.” Cf. supr. 267 b, ἀπονειμώμεθα. 4. ἀνθρωπικόν, though hardly occurring elsewhere in Plato, may be regarded as probably genuine, because of the affec- tation of variety and novelty of diction which pervades the dialogue. 5. The Bodl. MS. has θαυμα- στοποιηκὸν, not θαυματοποιητικὸν, as Gaisford asserts. 6. ταύτης tis—aiparos]| The words of Glaucus. Il. Z. 211: ταύτης τοι γενεῆς τε Kal αἵματος εὔχομαι εἶνα. The derivation of kind from kind by διαίρεσις is compared to a genealogy. Compare the modern idea of the genealogical derivation of species from a single type, and cf. Rep. 8, 547 a: ταύτης τοι na \ ΄ =) , γενεᾶς χρὴ φάναι εἶναι στάσιν. Ρ. 268. d TOAITIKOS. INTRODUCTION TO THE STATESMAN, THE contrast between the Sophist and the Philosopher is paralleled by that between the ideal and actual Statesman. The one of these is the philosopher under a different aspect, surveying from above and yet guiding the life of states: the other, in Plato’s view, is the most sophistical of all sophists (τὸν πάντων σοφιστῶν μέγιστον γόητα Kal ταύτης τῆς τέχνης ἐμ- πειρότατον). But in the present inquiry, although this thought may be detected from the first (see 258 b and note, compared with 292 b), it is ironically kept back, and instead of starting from the known characteristics of a class of persons, the speakers begin by forming an a priori conception of what the States- man ought to be. In fact, this dialogue, in a different subject- matter, combines the problem of the Sophistes with that of the Philosophus, and seeks to determine, not only an existing coun- terfeit, but an ideal reality. At the same time it is shewn that the true Statesman and Governor cannot be defined without reference to the actual, mixed conditions of human things. The whole is intended by the author to be a study in scientific method. Further remarks on the dialogue will be better understood if they are prefaced with a brief outline of the dialogue itself. § 1. It is assumed that the Statesman is master of a science : and that not a mere handicraft in which the thought cannot be separated from the work, but a theory, which however, as a theory of government, has an immediate reference to prac- tice. This theory must be essentially the same whether applied to a state or a household, and whether he who holds it be invested with authority or not. Further, the commands of the Statesman are not derivative, but issue from himself. These beg ly INTRODUCTION commands aim at controlling a work which affects living erea- tures in the aggregate. But what living creatures? The respondent inclines to say “man” at once. But he is warned to be cautious, lest he be making “a distinction without a difference.” For what ground is there for supposing that the distinction between man and the brutes is more rational than that between Greek and Barbarian, or that man has more right than any other thinking animal, such as the crane, to set himself over against all other creatures? By gradual sub- divisions, much as in the game called “ Animal, vegetable, and mineral,” the human race is at last determined to be the sphere of statesmanship: mankind being in the last place distinguished by a merely mathematical and physical difference from the pig, or, as bipes implume, from the κουφονόων φῦλα ὀρνίθων. (258 b—267 c.) § 2. The King, then, has been defined as the herdsman, the nurturer or nourisher of men. But there now appears this difference between the king and other herdsmen, that, while the cowherd is everything to his own cattle, there are many others who, equally with the king, may claim to be the shep- herds of the human flock. The merchant, husbandman, baker, gymnast, physician, have all a share in their nurture. In order to perceive the reason of this difference we must call to our assistance an ancient tale. There has been, and will be again, a time when the king is the shepherd of his people, but not in the present cycle of the world’s life. For there are alternate cycles, during one of which the universe is guided by the Divine hand, and then again, through many ages, the vast round fabric is left to revolve alone. Of the former time we have a dim tradition in the fables of the golden age and of the earth-born seed: and in the latter we and our fathers have been living. Of this “ re- verse of doom” a trace remains in the story that Zeus once made the sun and the stars to return from their setting to their rising. The gifts of Triptolemus and Deméter, Prome- theus, Hephestus and Athéne, were rendered necessary by the naked and helpless state of man, when first left, with the whole universe, to his own guidance. For in that former state he lived under the care of a Divine shepherd, who was all- sufficient for his flock: happy if they used their golden hours TO THE STATESMAN. γ in the improvement of their reason: otherwise, less happy than we may be. How great, then, was our error, when we mistook the Statesman, who is a man of like nurture and education with his citizens, for the Deity who ruled and tended mankind under the perfect conditions of that former cycle, when all things, including man himself, sprang of themselves from the Earth, and hence there was no property nor any possession of wives and children. And there is another error of less moment which the tale makes clear. Our definition is at once too wide and too narrow: too wide, because including more than the Statesman; too narrow, because not including him at all. He is not the feeder of his people, though he has the care of them. The word “care” would have included him also. But the general name “care of herds” must be divided until the King or Statesman is separated from all rivals and left quite alone. First, he is distinguished from the shepherd of the theo- eracy ; next, from the tyrant, who rules by force. The King or Statesman has the care of willing bipeds. (267 c—276 e.) § 3. Still, even with the help of our tale, which grew upon our hands, we have made an unfinished work. This descrip- tion is a mere colourless sketch, which must be filled up by further argument. And for this purpose we must have recourse to an example. For as children in learning to read are taught to recognize the letters of words which they know not, by being shewn the same letters in words which they know, so the mind is taught the principles of things, which having seen in one form she fails to recognise in others more strange and complicated. This will be illustrated by the example which is now to be chosen. The art of weaving woollen cloth is one of the simplest we could name. Yet we might describe it by a long series of divisions, distinguishing it from the making of other fabrics and coverings, without, after all, separating it from those arts to which it is most nearly related. For suppose we had thus defined it as “the art of working in wool.” Is there not the process of carding, which is the opposite of weaving together, and those of spinning and fulling and of darning, all of which answer to the definition but are none of them included in the weaver’s art’ Then there is the making of the loom and vi INTRODUCTION shuttle and other implements of weaving, which are adminicular to the art but different from the art itself. We distinguish, then, arts instrumental from arts operative. And of arts operative in wool-working there is a further dis- tinction, also depending on a universal division of the arts into combining and discriminating. Discriminating processes in wool-working are carding and one part of the use of the comb. But wool is combined, (1) By twisting: either hard with the spindle, to make the warp, or softly with the hand, to make the woof. (2) By the crossing and intertexture of the warp and woof, which is weaving. (277 a—283 a.) δ 3b. Now it may be said that “this is too long;” and that we might have arrived at the definition without the intermediate steps. This leads us into a digression on Excess and Defect. For want of dialectic, men are apt to confuse that which is more with that which is too much. Whereas there are two ways of measuring size and number; one, simply by comparison of greater and less, the other, by reference to the standard of what is meet or proper. Without such a standard there could be no art or science. This is the real meaning of the saying that the science of measurement embraces all things. So lamentable are the results of an unphilosophic method. And this suggests the further reflection, that as each reading lesson is learnt, not for its own sake, but for the sake of learn- ing to read, so our present inquiry is not so much on account of the Statesman as for our improvement in dialectic and in the alphabet of the ideal world. From all which we gather that the length of our discussion is to be judged, not by comparison, but by its meetness or fitness: and this not with a view to pleasure, nor chiefly to the ease or rapidity with which the object of search is found, but by its meetness or fitness to improve men in dialectic and awaken in them the faculty of invention. (283 b—287 a.) § 3c. We now endeavour to apply our example to the dis- covery of the King. His art is to be separated from those, adminicular and operative, which, like his own, are necessary to the life of the city. The productions of these are divided into seven kinds, viz. instruments, vessels, seats, shelters, sports, nourishments, and ΤῸ THE STATESMAN. vil materials: in none of which is the king’s work discoverable. Next in the order of possessions come tame animals of every kind, the art of herding which, including men, has been already distinguished from that of the king. Lastly, there is the class of slaves and other servants, amongst whom, strangely, appears the first glimpse of a character rivalling the king. Not amongst the slaves, of course, nor amongst tradesmen (though there is a political science of trade), nor heralds and other ministers of state. But first the prophet, herald of the Gods, and the priest who mediates between earth and heaven, have a kingly air. In Egypt the king must be a priest, and the Archon-Basileus at Athens performs sacred rites. At last our eye has caught the stragglers of a tumultuous throng, who presently sweep into full view—the actual rivals of the King. (287 b—290 6.) § 4. A motley crew, and monstrous to the philosopher’s eye. Some fierce and cruel as centaurs, some weak but cunning. These greatest impostors of all sophists do the business of the state: but, though hard the task, they must be separated from the true Statesman and King. For of the three forms of government ordinarily recognized, Monarchy, Democracy, Oligarchy, with the additional branches of Tyranny and Aristo- eracy, can it be said that any one is determined by Reason? How can the difference of many, few or one, of poor or rich, or even that which we have recognized between persuasion and force, distinguish the knowing from the ignorant ruler? True, many cannot have this knowledge, nor can that rude multitude who call themselves the wealthy or the few. Those who are indeed the few, whether poor or rich, whether they rule by force or by persuasion, whether with or without law, and by whatever means, so long as they rule with knowledge for the good of the state, are the true rulers, and theirs is the true form of government. Those forms to which the name is given are imitations, better or worse, of this one form. (291 a —293 6.) ὁ 4b. The Greek mind is shocked by the suggestion that the true government may be without law. But the sove- reignty of law is not a perfect substitute for that of a wise and living will. For general rules, which are in their na- ture simple, cannot embrace every contingency which may vill INTRODUCTION arise in the infinite complexity of human things. The law, like Creon, A - “ “ ( SAAT a -“ ἐν ἦθος μοῦνον ἐν αὑτῷ φορεῖ ὥς φησιν αὐτός, κοὐδὲν ἄλλο, τοῦτ᾽ ὀρθῶς ἔχειν. Laws are necessary (like rules in the gymnasium), because the ruler is not able at every moment to be prescribing for individual cases: and also because the lawgiver will not always be with his people. But suppose a physician going into a far country, and writing memoranda for his patients to observe until his return: should he come back and find that from some change of climate his prescriptions are no longer suitable, must he be bound by what he has once written? And if the true legislator, or one like him, were to come again on earth, must he be bound by the letter of the old precepts? It is commonly said, ‘ Let a man persuade his city, and so let him improve the laws.’ But and if he forces a better law upon his countrymen, will he be any the less a good lawgiver? The truth is, that, whether poor or rich, whether with or without law, whether by persuasion or force, the true statesman is he who governs wisely, who does what is expedient, and preserves and makes better those committed to his care. (293 e—297 b.) § 46. It was said above, that of the imitations of the true government some were better, others worse. Here the distine- tion finds place which we before rejected, between the obser- vation and neglect of law. In the absence of the true soyve- reign, it is best for every state to preserve its laws, which it may be presumed that the first lawgiver made after his conception of the ideal pattern. This is illustrated by an imaginary case (with evident allusion to Athens). Suppose that men, from their experience of the wickedness of physi- cians and pilots, determined to bind them by edicts, which they passed in their assembly or in their senate, at the sug- gestion of any unprofessional adviser who chose to speak, and regulated thereby the use of drugs and surgical instruments and the build and navigation of ships in peace and war. Sup- pose these edicts engraved on lasting marble, and on the no less lasting monuments of custom and tradition. Suppose, further, that our medical practitioners and naval captains were chosen annually in the same assembly, and were lable to be TO THE STATESMAN. ix indicted publicly by any citizen so soon as their annual term expired. A further sanction would be necessary. Were any found searching into the truth of navigation and medicine beyond what was written, he must first be set down by public opinion as a babbling, star-gazing sophist, and then accused in court of corrupting the youth: and if convicted of persuading any man to sail or to be healed contrary to the customs, he must suffer the last penalty: seeing that no man must be wiser than the laws, which he who runs may read. The result would be the hopeless extinction of these arts, and of any others to which this plan should be applied. Yet is a worse case conceivable: if, when the laws of any art had been thus laid down, those elected by suffrage or by lot were to despise the laws and act in defiance of them, not from the knowledge of any principle, but for the sake of gain or favour. For though the arts were destroyed, there was in the former ease a certain ground of experience or probability, which is thus annihilated. Hence in the absence of the true lawgiver, the best course (though only a second best) is to maintain the laws. This distinction, between constitutional and unconstitutional government, was previously applied to monarchy and oligarchy, and is now extended to democracy. Whence there are now seven so-called forms of government, of which one only de- serves the name :—scientific monarchy, constitutional mon- archy, tyranny, aristocracy, oligarchy, constitutional demo- cracy, unconstitutional democracy. When we contemplate the six last named, the wonder is that cities should exist at all. Constitutional monarchy is better than aristocracy, and this is better than constitutional democracy. Of the remaining three, unconstitutional democracy, or anarchy, is the least bad, and tyranny is the worst of all. But all are to be rejected, as not answering to the object of our search. The heads of these false governments are not statesmen but partisans; they are mere phantasms, like the constitutions which they administer; the most egregious imita- tors, impostors, and sophists. (297 c—303 b.) § 5. The actual statesmen being thus disposed of, the way is still further cleared towards the unveiling of the true king. Yet all that we have hitherto gained is negative, except that τῷ x INTRODUCTION he rules men wisely, according to true principles. Like refiners of gold, we have purged away baser minerals, but haye not yet eliminated those precious metals which have the strongest affinity for the gold. In other words, our definition would apply equally to the general, the judge, the wise and eloquent orator, as to the king. But the art of statecraft has this distinguishing note, that it directs the functions of the rest, and has a universal working. The orator knows how to persuade, the judge how incor- ruptibly to administer the law, the general how to conduct war successfully: but none except the king or statesman can determine where persuasion is to be used instead of force, what the law ought to be, whether war is to be leyied, or peace preserved. Thus statecraft is, as was before anticipated, the commanding science, not herself acting, but directing those who have the power to act. And while each of the rest has a particular sphere, the office of the king embraces every func- tion of the common life. (303 c—305 6.) We have now separated the king or statesman from all who were likely to be confounded with him. It remains, in accord- ance with our example, to describe the manner of his work. What are the warp and woof of the royal fabric? and how is it woven ? First, we must note that there are two opposite qualities which merit praise, courage and gentleness, or, in other words, quickness and slowness: which, however, if they remain apart run to excess, and equally become blameable and even de- structive. Next, that every art of combination, even the humblest, seeks to bring together elements which have first been separated from what is worthless. Hence as the art of carding ministered to weaving, so the kingly art makes use of education and other tests for purging the good from the bad. The worst are cast forth by exile or death. The mean and ignorant are enslaved. Of the rest, the brave and gentle, that is the hard warp and soft woof, are combined: the eternal part being compacted with a divine, the mortal with a human, bond. The divine bond is right opinion confirmed by reason, and this is implanted in the mind—the divine particula awre—thus imparting gentleness to the rugged and prudence to the smooth and yielding nature. TO THE STATESMAN. x] This is the most important and difficult branch of the ruling science. The human bonds are easily imposed where the di- vine exist. They are the regulations concerning marriage, whereby the brave and gentle races are physically as well as mentally crossed and interwoven: though flesh and blood may find this saying hard. This having been effected, the offices of state are to be distributed amongst both kinds: the two natures being in each case either united in a single person, or equally repre- sented where more than one officer is required: that the state may act at once with energy and discretion. And so there is wrought the perfect web, whereby the true Statesman holds the whole city together in concord and amity, and secures for his subjects the happiest life which is possible for a society of men. (305 e—3TI.) REMARKS. I. Dialectical Aspects. Relation to the Sophist. Amongst many differences of treatment which might be expected from the change of subject and the fertility of Plato’s invention, the thoughts on method and the nature of know- ledge, which were thrown out in the Sophist, are not forgotten, but indirectly receive further development. a. The process of divisions has acquired new significance. The problem is explained to be, “ to distinguish one kind of art from all others, and by stamping these with a single negative form, learn to conceive of all science under two heads, namely, statecraft, and that science which is not statecraft.”’ (258 c.) This is clearly an application of the view of Not-Being which had just been given. But it soon appears that the mere abstract notion of Difference may be capriciously applied. To distinguish man from other animals, for example, or Greek from Barbarian, is a merely arbitrary procedure, unless we have found a rational ground for the distinction, which can only be done by a method of successive exclusions, each of which implies a certain knowledge of that which is excluded, as well as of that which is retained. Even so meagre a defi- nition of man as that he is a featherless biped implies the ἘῸ ὦ x INTRODUCTION knowledge of at least two positive qualities of the class of birds. This thought is not worked out further at the time, but in the later stages of the argument the complexity of all real knowledge, implied already in the “ communion of ideas,” is more fully recognised than elsewhere in Plato. The defi- nition of the Sun which Socrates on the previous day had thought sufficient, “that he is the brightest orb that rolls in Heaven about the earth,’ ὅτι τὸ λαμπρότατόν ἐστι τῶν κατὰ τὸν οὐρανὸν ἰόντων περὶ γῆν (Thest. 208 4), would not now satisfy the requirements of the Stranger. “It is not enough to describe wool-weaving as the greatest and fairest of all ministries that wait on the working of wool: the other attendant arts must be carefully stripped from round it.” (281 c.) That is, each of these must be so far defined as to exclude weaving. The boundary line must be clearly drawn from either side. And thus the definition of the Statesman involves a certain account of the general, the judge, the orator, as well as a description of the no-constitutions of existing states. Here is an approach, though a very partial one, to the ideal of science which is made a test of the happiness or misery of the children of earth in Saturn’s reign: “learning from every nature, what each by its proper faculty had perceived differently from others and could contribute to the treasury of knowledge.” (272 c.) So much has been gained from perceiving the correlation of the positive and negative elements of knowledge. Closely akin to this was the reaction, which the “‘ Sophist” justified®, from a merely negative and analytical method of knowledge. This also is continued in the Statesman. In their zeal for the method of divisions, the Stranger and his respondent fall into a natural error. In seeking to be definite they forget to be comprehensive, and omit a needful generalization. They divide the science of feeding; whereas the king in this pre- sent cycle is not a feeder, although he has the care of a flock. This error is duly exposed and rectified; and it is further shewn that the distinctions hitherto made have only brought out a colourless outline of the King. It is from this point that the more serious portion of the inquiry begins. ἃ Τελεωτάτη πάντων λόγων ἐστὶν ἀφάνισις τὸ διαχωρίζειν ἕκαστον ἀπὸ πάντων. Soph. 259 6. TO THE STATESMAN. xill b. The generalizing or combining process», the defect of which had been just noticed, here resumes its proper import- ance. The ideas on which the definition of the Statesman mainly turns are drawn from the not very obvious example of cloth- weaying; and an example is explained to mean the illustra- tion of some great or unfamiliar truth by the exhibition of the leading principles of that truth in a simple and familiar case. We are again reminded of the complexity of the world of which philosophy speaks to us, and how combinations which in the abstract are sufficiently understood, become lost when we endeavour to follow the concrete development of things. (278 c,d.) We are told that it is only by dialectic (not by any sensible mean) that the similitude of the highest truths can be displayed. And as the definition of the weaver is symbolical of that of the Statesman; so the chief value of this whole discussion is to shadow forth still higher truths than those with which it is concerned. (285 d, e.) What then are the principles suggested by the present example? First, we are taught the inadequacy of the method of dichotomies as hitherto pursued. If the view of this method already stated* is correct, we can easily imagine that Young Socrates, or let us rather say a pupil of the Academy at this time, was not prepared for the elaborateness of the discussion. In fact we have seen him beguiled by the Stranger into thinking that the journey was ended, when it was not yet well begun. (265 b.) Plato here shews that the real work of distinction and comparison, which deserves the name of dialec- tic, is a more subtle process and goes deeper than the boyish exercise with which he had as it were broken ground for the inquiry : though even through this many valuable hints had been conveyed, seria mista jocis. The difference in this respect between the earlier and later portions of the dialogue will be evident to any one who compares the abstract notion of statesmanship as a commanding theory in p. 260 a, with the view given in pp. 305, 306 of the relation of the kingly art to those of the orator, judge, and field-officer. Those θ᾽ συναγωγή. Cf. 278 ο, ταὐτὸν ἐν pare Bacon’s saying, ‘‘ The strength of ἑτέρῳ διεσπασμένῳ, δοξαζόμενον ὀρθῶς all sciences is, as the strength of the καὶ συναχθέν. old man’s faggot, in the bond.” © See General Introduction. Com- XLV INTRODUCTION who make this comparison will not think that the author of this dialogue believed his definition of bipes implume to be a serious contribution to the science of human nature. As the dialogue proceeds the earlier divisions seem to be forgotten, or to be neglected as a mere scaffolding’, else the analogy just noticed between p. 260 a and 305 d (οὐκ αὐτὴν δεῖ πράτ- τειν, GAN ἄρχειν τῶν δυναμένων πράττειν) could hardly have been overlooked by the speakers themselves. The imperfection of mere external classifications being thus recognized, there follows the remark, already quoted, on the necessity of finding the mutual boundary between the object of search and all kindred species. (281 c.) In applymg this to weaving we obtain two fresh thoughts, which are found valuable for the main argument: the distine- tion of αἴτια and ξυναίτια, of operative and adminicular arts ; and the universality of the two great sciences of composition and division. The former affords the hint for the elimination from the work of the king of various arts, without which civil life could not proceed: the latter is the key-note of the final passage, in which the last touches are given to the image of the King. For by help of our example we are enabled to proceed fur- ther, even after all possible distinctions have been drawn: and when all rival arts have been stripped away we see in the royal function the twofold process of division and composition : division, by which, practically, good citizens are selected, and theoretically the brave and gentle elements are distin- guished: composition, by which the diverse materials thus cleansed and prepared are combined in a smooth and perfect web. ‘These two are the counterpart of the twofold process of dialectic, by which the objects of thought are distinguished and combined according to truth. This process is incidentally described in a passage of the Politicus already quoted (285 a, b), in which the complex determinations of real knowledge are contrasted with the off-hand generalizations and distine- tions of sciolism; and which is in fact an application and development of the conception of scientific method expressed in Soph. 259 d. ἃ Cf. Pheedr. 265 d: τὰ μὲν ἄλλα τῷ ὄντι παιδιᾷ πεπαῖσθαι. cr ... TO THE STATESMAN. XV 6. These are the chief points of that instruction in dialectic, which is commended to us by the Eleatie Stranger as the most valuable result of the dialogue. We may gather from them that Plato was at this time striving after a philosophy of the concrete, and endeavouring to substitute real and fruitful in- quiry for the barren logical exercitations, the sweeping gene- ralizations and verbal distinctions of his contemporaries, per- haps of his own scholars. The aim constantly held before the mind is the attainment of greater definiteness and fulness, “This is true, but not explicit or complete ” (ἀληθὲς μὲν οὐ μὴν σαφές ye οὐδὲ τέλεον) is the repeated complaint. Since it has been proved in the Sophist that different ideas may have com- munion or correlation with each other, it becomes the task of philosophy to discern the threads which connect them. And nowhere, except in the Philebus and Parmenides, has Plato buckled to this task more earnestly. In the latter part of the Pheedrus indeed there is a conception of an art of rhetoric, which should be based on a complete science of psychology, the realization of which would far exceed in definiteness and completeness this somewhat desultory sketch. But it is one thing to imagine a science, and quite another thing to attempt, however imperfectly, to work it out. The “splendid ideal” of the Phedrus, like other intuitions of that dialogue, is an anticipation rather than an embodiment of method : not neces- sarily an early anticipation, for if wildness of imagination marks a jugendschrift, what is to be said of the mythus in the Statesman? In the sixth book of the Republic there is ex- pressed a more general conception of the ladder of hypotheses by which science climbs to the ideal world, whence she de- scends without the aid of the ladder by the chain of ideas. But this notion, though implying a connexion of ideas, is still vague, and gives less promise of the reality of science than the method employed in the Politicus. The Republic professes to be intelligible rather than exact, and to proceed by popular methods. Even the order of the sciences 15 not worked out as a dialectical problem, though the seventh book contains passages of great subtilty and depth. What is wanting in demonstration is “evened o’er” by the abundance of imagination. But Socrates hints more than once to Glaucon that there is a “longer way,” which the dialectical ΧΥΪ INTRODUCTION student must learn to tread. It is possible that we have a sample of this in the present dialogue, which contains an ela- borate defence of lengthened argument, and in which Young Socrates is taken further afield than he had any thought of going. This struggle towards definiteness and reality is pro tanto an approach on Plato’s part to the later philosophy of Aristotle. But there still remains between them an ineffaceable difference of character. Plato when most concrete retains an undimin- ished hold of the universal: οὐρανῷ ἐστήρικτο κάρη καὶ ἐπὶ χθονὶ βαίνει. The idealizing spirit may be exorcised, “ tamen usque recurrit.”’ Gliscit intellectus altior. The true king, when adapting himself to the particular circumstances of his state» inflicting exile or death on some; uniting others in marriage, is still the perfectly wise philosopher with his eye fixed on the pattern in the heavens. Contemplation and action are not sundered: the knowledge of the universal truth is not sup- posed to hinder the individual application®. 11. Socratic and Pythagorean Elements. a. Continuance of the Socratic Spirit. The question here treated by the Stranger, after being proposed by Socrates, is almost identical with some of those with which, according to Xenophon, the real Socrates was most engaged: τί πόλις ; τί πολιτικός ; τί ἀρχὴ ἀνθρώπων ; τί ἀρχικὸς ἀνθρώπων; And though his method of search on these topics, as recorded in the Memorabilia, is much simpler than that here used, it is evident that Plato has im many instances only followed up the hints given by his master. There is, first, the postulate on which the whole dialogue proceeds, that statesmanship is a science, that knowledge ought to govern. You would not doubt, says Socrates, whe- ther to place a skilful or unskilful pilot at the helm (1. 1, 9): nor would you choose a pilot, or a carpenter, or a flute-player, as you do your rulers, by casting lots (I. 2,9). (Cf. Polit. 258 Ὁ, 290 e, 292 Ὁ, 298.) e “And therefore the speculation that all things by a scale did ascend to was excellent in Parmenides and Plato, Unity.’”—Bacon. though in them only a speculation, TO THE STATESMAN. Xvil 2. The image of a herdsman, under which the king is at first conceived, common enough certainly in poetry, was one which Socrates delighted to use. “It is a bad herdsman (βοῶν ἀγέλης νομεύς) who makes the number of the cattle less,” was his well-known censure of the thirty tyrants (I. 2, 32). The coincidence of language here is enough to justify the sup- position that there is some connexion of thought: although Plato evidently thinks that there are cases where taking the heads of citizens may be a purgation of the common weal. (261 ἃ alib., 293 ἃ.) 3. The distinction of the king and tyrant in Mem. IV. 6, 12‘, is nearly the same with that which Plato accepts pro- visionally at one stage of the dialogue (277 d); and the same passage of Xenophon’ expresses what Plato speaks of as the commonly received mode of characterizing the several forms of government (291 6). The thought however is here so ob- vious that it would not be safe to lay much stress on this coincidence, if taken alone. 4. The general and the judge (στρατηγικός, δικαστικός) are named by Socrates as next in dignity to the statesman (πολιτι- Mem. II. 6, 38. Cf. Polit. 305. But the chief traces of the historical Socrates in this dia- logue, as in the Sophistes, are the method of definition by exclusions, and the use of common examples to suggest hypo- theses: both much extended, and if not systematized, yet made the objects of reflection and theory; but in their en- larged features bearing unmistakeably the marks of their first origin. (See Sophist. sub. init., note on Σωκράτης.) Turning from the Socrates of Xenophon to the Platonic Socrates, we find a passage of the Euthydemus, in which the KOS). £ Βασιλείαν δὲ καὶ τυραννίδα ἀρχὰς μὲν ἀμφοτέρας ἡγεῖτο εἶναι, διαφέρειν δὲ ἀλλήλων ἐνόμιζε. τὴν μὲν γὰρ ἑκόν- των τε τῶν ἀνθρώπων καὶ κατὰ νόμους τῶν πόλεων ἀρχὴν, βασιλείαν ἡγεῖτο" τὴν δὲ ἀκόντων καὶ μὴ κατὰ νόμους, ἀλλ᾽ ὅπως 6 ἄρχων βούλοιτο, τυραν- νίδα. & Καὶ ὅπου μὲν ἐκ τῶν τὰ νόμιμα ἐπιτελούντων αἱ ἀρχαὶ καθίστανται, ταύτην τὴν πολιτείαν ἀριστοκρατίαν ἐνόμιζεν εἶναι ὅπου δ᾽ ἐκ τιμημάτων, πλουτοκρατίαν᾽ ὅπου δ᾽ ἐκ πάντων δη- μοκρατίαν. h Mem. I. 2,37: ᾿Αλλὰ τῶνδέ τοι σε ἀπέχεσθαι ὦ Σώκρατες, δεήσει, τῶν σκυτέων καὶ τῶν τεκτόνων καὶ τῶν χαλκέων: καὶ γὰρ οἶμαι αὐτοὺς ἤδη κατατετρίῖφθαι διαθρυλλουμένους ὑπὸ σοῦ ΝΣ καὶ τῶν βουκόλων γε. Cf. Gorg. 401 a, Sympos, 221 6. “id XVill INTRODUCTION question here solved by the Stranger is raised, but, Socratico more, is left unanswered. Some of the elements of the inquiry are, however, the same as here, and the passage has nearly the same relation to this dialogue which the opening chapters of the Protagoras have to the Sophist. (Kuthyd. 289-291.) « An art is required which can both make and enable us to use rightly what is made. The art of speech-making is not this, because the speech-maker is often different from the speaker. Nor generalship, for that is a kind of hunting: and the huntsman often does not use what he catches, but delivers them to others, and so the general yields up his prey to the statesman. Let us try then the art of the statesman, or the king. Here we fall into a labyrinth of inquiry (ὥσπερ εἰς λαβύρινθον ἐμπεσόντες, οἰόμενοι ἤδη ἐπὶ τέλει εἶναι, περικάμ- ψαντες πάλιν ὥσπερ ἐν ἀρχῇ τῆς ζητήσεως ἀνεφάνημεν ὄντες, καὶ τοῦ ἴσου δεόμενοι, ὅσουπερ ὅτε τὸ πρῶτον ἐσκοποῦμεν). Tor when it is admitted that all the other arts yield over their productions to the political or royal art (which are the same), and that this art, by determining the use of everything, is the pilot and saviour of the state, the question rises, what is her peculiar work ? “According to a previous agreement, this must be knowledge of some kind, and this excludes wealth, freedom, peace, and the like. Say, then, she makes the citizens wise. In what knowledge does she make them wise, and what use will they make of their wisdom? ‘Thus the original question returns in a new form.” The thing sought for here is the same which the Politicus professes to find, an absolute principle of life: a speculative truth which is also the consummation of practical good: a commanding theory. It was this which Socrates spent his life in seeking: of which he confessed his ignorance, while he declared life to be intolerable if it were not known. The political problem is only a particular instance of the eternal question, what is true and good? There is also considerable likeness in the manner of search. And here it may be remarked that the specializing or indi- vidualizing effort described in the previous section is a genuine continuation of the work of Socrates, whose pertinacity in sticking like a gad-fly to his respondent is most conspicuous, TO THE STATESMAN. XIX where he forces men by a fresh question from some generality in which they would gladly rest (dpyovoa—rl ἀπεργάζεται ; —riva δὴ ἐπιστήμην ; ἣ τί χρησόμεθα :) The chief difference is that the Eleatic Stranger works out an answer to the question, which Socrates asked of Kuthyde- mus and his brother in vain: not however to the final question, which Socrates, if true to his vocation, would have still pressed upon the Stranger, though the problem in the present case was more limited than in the former. But this difficulty, like that about the nature of virtue, is evaded rather than solved by the more complex notion of the state, whose members have not all the same office. As im the Republic there is found a place for a virtue in harmony with reason although lower than reason, so here a place is found for political happiness (καθ᾽ ὅσον εὐδαίμονι πέφυκε γίγνεσθαι πόλει). All free citizens are to be trained so as to think correctly of what is noble, just, and good, and to give a reason of their opinion (μετὰ βεβαιώσεως). But with the rulers or law-givers alone exists that perfect consciousness which is the fountain of right action for the state, and whose will determines in accordance with reason the use to be made of all possessions (ὅσα ἔχεται κτήσεως). Other parallels might be drawn (e.g. from Gorg. 517), shewing that the spirit of Socrates is still working under the Eleatic mask: and if the Socratic humour no longer makes perpetual skirmishes, it lurks in ambush to take the reader by surprise, and is occa- sionally transformed by the intensity of Plato’s mood into an almost savage irony. The writer knew well how laughable was his picture of all things growing backwards in the golden age; nor could Swift have wished for more than to demonstrate the close relationship between mankind and the pig. There is the very genius of satire in the picture of the self- exaltation of the crane, who looks on man as an inferior animal; and in the lofty scorn with which the philosopher professes ignorance of the motley throng of satyrs and centaurs, who are in fact no other than the princes and potentates of this world. Briefly, the object which Socrates set before himself and others, Plato, when he wrote this dialogue, believed himself partially to have attained—the science of truth and good: to Gl ὦ ΧΧ INTRODUCTION Socrates an ideal only, dwarfing to nothing all actual know- ledge; to Plato an ideal ever in process of realization through the activity of reason, when awakened by dialectic to perceive the existence and follow the relations of ideas. b. Pythagorean influence. Wherever Plato, especially in his later dialogues, affirms anything respecting the order of nature, the destiny of the soul, or the fabric of the state, there is reason to suspect the influence, more or less controlled by dialectic, of Pythagorean notions. To a great extent he used these merely as forms of imagination through which he could give more lively expression to his thoughts, but there can be no doubt that this scientific mysticism had an increas- ine charm for his mind, and had a still greater ascendancy over his immediate followers. It is less generally admitted that his dialectic also had a Pythagorean element, and yet it seems far from improbable that, as he strengthened his belief in the flux of phenomena by the study of Heraclitus and Protagoras, and learnt from Parmenides to trust in the fixity of ideas, so in the “struggle towards the concrete,” of which the argument of the Politicus is an important step, he may have been assisted by reading in Philolaus of the eternal Harmony, whereby the Limit was impressed on the Unlimited, to the production of a beautiful world. It was seen, in com- menting on the Thezetetus (p. 201), that the philosophers who said there was no knowledge of the Simple, but only of the Complex, were probably Pythagorean. The word κοινωνία, by which the correlation of ideas is expressed in the Sophist, occurs in a place of the Gorgias where the Pythagorean colouring is evident (Gorg. 507 e—508 a). The μεθέξις of the Parmenides is the μίμασις of the Pythagoreans. And in the Philebus the κόσμος τις ἀσώματος (πέρας, ἄπειρον, μικτόν, αἰτία, μέτρον), which forms the spring and framework of the dialogue, is of a no less unmistakeable character. In the present dialogue there occurs a direct criticism of Pythagorean doctrine which affords a good illustration of Plato’s manner of dealing with the philosophies which most influenced him. The Stranger is led incidentally to defend the tediousness of the “longer way,” whose object is not to give pleasure, or to obtain a speedy result, but to enlighten the reason. He does so by distinguishing that which is too τω ee TO THE STATESMAN. xxi much from that which is more; a distinction which had escaped even those philosophers who ayerred that the science of measurement embraces all things. They led the way to a great truth, which for want of dialectic they could not work out. It is true that without measure all arts would be destroyed, but there are two kinds of measure, one simply relative, another, which is the secret of production, having reference to the standard of what is meet. Here the Pytha- gorean doctrine of numbers is brought into contact with the Socratic ethical idea‘. Aristotle would have said that certain thinkers acknowledged the formal, but ignored the final cause. In this passage, as perhaps in the Philebus, 44 ὁ, the Pytha- goreans are employed as “ diviners” to point the way to the spring which Plato himself must open. We pass from this manifest allusion to some less certain Andications that Plato was at this time playing with the weapons of this school. There need hardly be mentioned the ludicrous mathematical definition of man as a biped; or the doctrine of metempsychosis, or the astronomy passing into cosmology. We may confine our attention to points less obvious than these. The Pythagoreans were the only pre-Socratic school who set themselves to raise human life towards an ideal standard*. It can hardly be doubted that they had moral and political doctrines in the fourth century B.C. But the few fragments of Philolaus which remain are of a metaphysical and cosmical turn. We know from Herodotus and Xenophanes that Pytha- goras taught the immortality and transmigration of the soul; from Plato that his followers observed a certain rule of life; and the language of Philolaus, always full of religious fervour, appears to recognize the Unity of the Supreme Being!. The Pythagorean fragments even of the age immediately succeed- ing Plato are of doubtful authority, and are so tinged with Platonism, that, even if genuine, their value is diminished for i Compare a saying of Socrates him- self in the Memorabilia advising μετρι- érys in the study of λογισμοί, and cf. Legg. 4, 719 6, σοὶ δ᾽ οὐχ οὕτω ῥητέον two points, which both appear in this dialogue—in the mode of teaching by parable (δι᾽ ὁμοιωμάτων) and in religious mysticism. ὡς νῦν εἶπες τὸ μέτριον εἰπών. ἀλλὰ τί 1 ἐντὶ γὰρ 6 ἁγεμὼν καὶ ἄρχων ἅπάν- τὸ μέτριον καὶ ὁπόσον ἡητέον. k They coincided with Socrates in τῶν θεὸς εἷς ἀεὶ ἐών, μόνιμος, ἀκίνατος, αὐτὸς αὑτῷ ὁμοῖος, ἅτερος τῶν ἄλλων. ΧΧῚῚ INTRODUCTION our present purpose. But it seems probable on the whole that the school at the earlier period of which we speak combined a ceremonial asceticism with a noble and elevating morality. We know that such was the ethical teaching of Empedocles, who was a Pythagorean in this respect, and who at one time erles, Οὐ πέλεται τοῖς μὲν θεμιτὸν τόδε, τοῖς δ᾽ ἀθέμιστον" ἀλλὰ τὸ μὲν πάντων νόμιμον διά τ᾽ εὐρυμέδοντος αἰθέρος ἠνεκέως τέταται, διά τ’ ἀπλέτου αὐγῆς, and presently, with still greater vehemence, Δειλοί, πανδειλοί, κυάμων ἄπο χεῖρας ἔχεσθεϊα ! 1. The idea of an infinite past, and of great cycles of time, which took such hold of Plato’s imagination, and which he himself refers to an Egyptian source, was probably common to him with the Pythagoreans, and if not derived from them, must have been strengthened by their teaching. According to Porphyry (V. Pyth. 19), “ Pythagoras” taught that all events took place in cycles and there was nothing new: ὅτι κατὰ περιόδους τινὰς τὰ γιγνόμενά ποτε πάλιν γίγνεται, νέον δ᾽ οὐδὲν ἁπλῶς ἐστι. The bearing of this on the “ great mythe” is sufficiently evident. 2. Plato also held in common with them, and may have partly received from them, a strong sense of the inevitable prevalence of evil in the world. It is not likely that he derived this from Socrates, who complained not of evil but of ignorance, and who refrained from cosmical speculation: and this vein of reflection is deepest in his latest works. Theophrastus (Met. 9. Ritter and Preller, 110) speaks of Plato and the Pythagoreans as being at one on this subject. “The nature of the whole, they say, would be impossible without the existence of an absolute formlessness and indefi- niteness and disorder (cf. Polit. 273 d, εἰς τὸν τῆς ἀνομοιότητος ἄπειρον ὄντα τόπον δύῃ), which they oppose to the combination of the indefinite dyad and the One. This disorder has as it m Tt is perhaps worth notice that ποιουμένους ἐκείνου μαθητὰς εἶναι μᾶλ - the σιωπὴ of the Pythagoreans was in λον σιγῶντας θαυμάζουσιν ἢ τοὺς ἐπὶ some shape contemporary with Plato. τῷ λέγειν μεγίστην δόξαν ἔχοντα. See Isocrates Busir. 29, τοὺς προσ- TO THE STATESMAN. XXxlil were an equal share with the other nature, or even exceeds it. Hence even God cannot be supposed able to bring all things to perfection ; but, if he be the cause of things, this is only so far as nature admits. And perhaps he would not choose to do so, since there must follow an annihilation of Being, which is composed of opposites.” This passage, although probably describing at second-hand a theory not clearly understood, sufficiently proves that the prevalence of imperfection was a difficulty much discussed by the semi-Pythagoreans of the Academy ; and it is this difficulty which suggests to Plato’s imagination the occasional dereliction of the world by God. He modifies Pythagorean optimism, by bringing into prominence another side of their theory. The disorder out of which the whole was brought into the present order, the breaking out again of this disorder so as almost to bring Chaos back again, the fear that but for Divine interposition the world might founder in the “ infinite abyss of dissimilitude,” are touches vividly recalling this doctrine. The Politicus contains another trace of this ἄμορφος φύσις, which it would appear trifling to notice, did not the dialogue itself warn us that the commonest things may be examples of great ideas. This is the mention of raw material amongst the seven kinds of possessions (288, 9), with the remarkable appellation τὸ mpwroyevés εἶδος : (compare the πρωτογένεια of the Orphic Hymns). This, and the well-known passage of the Timeus, are the chief anticipations in Plato of the Aristotelian material cause. 3. The doctrine of transmigration was naturally connected with the prohibition of animal food and a higher than the ordinary estimate of the relation of the lower animals to man. In the passage of Porphyry already quoted, it is said that “ Pythagoras taught” that all animal life is kindred: ὅτι πάντα τὰ γιγνόμενα ἔμψυχα ὁμογενῆ δεῖ νομίζειν. It is true that every later testimony on this subject, when philosophy had been leavened by the direct influence of Egypt and the East, must be received with caution®; but if this doctrine 1 The often-quoted lines of Xeno- _ still nearer (364,5): ἐνθ᾽ ἦσαν κτίλα phanes, about Pythagoras and the dog, πάντα καὶ ἀνθρώποισι προσηνῆ φῆρές shew, however, something of a similar 7° οἰωνοί τε, φιλοφροσύνη τε δεδήει. tendency. And Empedocles comes XXIV INTRODUCTION existed, Plato has used it (1) to point his irony, by telling us not hastily to distinguish man from the beasts, some of whom perhaps regard him with the same contempt with which he looks on them; and (2) to adorn his tale by the circumstance of man confabulating with the other creatures, when “ there was nothing wild.” That abstinence from the flesh of animals was not unknown in Greece, at least in the way of tradition and theory, is cer- tain from a remark of Plato’s on the “ Orphic” way of life (Lege. 6, 782 6), and from the lines in which Empedocles vehe- mently condemns the opposite practice, on the ground that so men are devouring their own fiesh and blood®. (Compare Aristoph. Ran. 1032”.) And it is probable that Plato alludes to this when he says that the creatures did not eat each other in the golden age (οὐκ ἣν ἄγριον οὐδὲν οὐδὲ ἀλλήλων ἐδωδαί). Another prohibition, having evidently the same origin, and ascribed by Herodotus to the Pythagoreans in common with the Orphic mystics and the Egyptians, was that against bury- ing in wool. Closely allied to these Orphic notions is the idea of purifica- tion (καθαρμὸς), of which there are several applications in this dialogue and in the Sophist. (Soph. 226 d; Polit. 293 d, 303 d, 308 c,d. Compare the Pheedo.) Thus the idea of division or separation as well as that of combination (διάκρισις as well as σύγκρισις) had a root in the speculations of this school. 4. It remains to notice the most important, but unfortu- nately the most doubtful, of the points at which this dialogue touches on Pythagoreanism. The fancies hitherto mentioned belong to morals and religion. Must not a school which aimed at influencing states have had a political theory, how- ever simple? © Μορφὴν δ᾽ ἀλλάξαντα πατὴρ φίλον υἱὸν ἀείρας σφάζει ἐπευχόμενος, μέγα νήπιος᾽ ὃς δὲ πορεῦται λισσόμενος θύοντ᾽" 68 ἀνηκούστησεν ὅὁμοκλέων σφάξας δ᾽ ἐν μεγάροισι κακὴν ἀλεγύνατο δαῖτα. ὡς δ᾽ αὕτως πατέρ᾽ υἱὸς ἑλὼν καὶ μητέρα παῖδες, θυμὸν ἀπορραίσαντε, φίλας κατὰ σάρκας ἔδουσιν" Οὐ παύσεσθε φόνου δυσηχέος ; οὖκ ἐσορᾶτε ᾿Αλλήλους δάπτοντες ἀκηδείησι νόοιο ;—Hmp. Καθαρμοί. P Ορφεὺς μὲν γὰρ τελετάς θ᾽ ἡμῖν κατέδειξε φόνων T ἀπέχεσθαι. TO THE STATESMAN. XXV Stobzeus has preserved three fragments from a work Kephantus of Syracuse on Royalty (περὶ βασιλείας) containing an ideal picture of the true king. Very similar fragments are quoted by him from works on the same subject by Dioto- genes the Pythagorean and Sthenidas the Locrian. These are all later than Plato, and betray the influence of his teach- ing; but they display with great consistency a phase of Pythagoreanism which is at least interesting in connexion with the present dialogue. The true king is pictured as a kind of God on earth: having the same relation to his sub- jects which the Supreme Being has to the Cosmos, surveying them from above with an eye of wisdom (cf. Soph. 216 d), having for them the same affection which a father has towards his son, or a shepherd towards his flock, and being revered by them as the law is revered by those who use it. The city “imitates” the world and the king imitates the ruler of the world. Ἔχει δὲ ὡς θεὸς ποτὶ κόσμον βασιλεὺς ποτὶ πόλιν, καὶ ὡς πόλις μ ’ ποτὶ κόσμον βασιλεὺς ποτὶ θεόν. “A μὲν γὰρ πόλις ἐκ πολλῶν Kal διαφερόντων συναρμοσθεῖσα κόσμω σύνταξιν καὶ ἁρμονίαν μεμί- ie Ν Ἂν 2) SS Υ̓ 5 - \ SEN δ ’ὔ μαται, ὁ δὲ βασιλεὺς ἀρχὰν ἔχων ἀνυπεύθυνον καὶ αὐτὸς ὧν νόμος Bs \ 3 5 ὔ , , , > ἔμψυχος, θεὸς ἐν ἀνθρώποις παρεσχημάτισται. ---- Θεόμιμόν ἐντι πρᾶγμα βασιλεία. (Diotog. περὶ βασιλείας. Mullach. Fragm. PP- 534-5-) Χρὴ τὸν βασιλέα σοφὸν ἣμεν' οὕτω γὰρ ἐσεῖται ἀντίἴτιμος καὶ N “ / an Ὁ Ν Ν 4, " Ν \ ° ζηλωτὰς TO πράτω θεῶ. Οὗτος yap Kal φύσι ἐντὶ καὶ πρᾶτος βασιλεύς τε καὶ δυνάστας, ὁ δὲ γενέσι καὶ μιμάσι; καὶ 6 μὲν ἐν 2 \ Δ δ᾽ ε SN c \ ε Ν SEN S f τῷ παντὶ καὶ ὅλῳ, ὁ δὲ ἐπὶ γᾶς, Kal ὁ μὲν ἀεὶ τὰ πάντα διοι- Cay Ν ’ IEEN 3 Ca / Ν c 379 κεῖ Te Kal ζώει αὐτὸς ἐν αὑτῷ κεκταμένος τὴν σοφίαν, ὃ δ᾽ ἐν χρόνῳ ἐπιστάμαν". (Sthenidas Locrus, περὶ βασιλείας. Ibid. Ρ. 536.) os) ἢ , ἱ : Ἔκ τούτων κοινὸν ἀγαθὸν εὐαρμοστία τις καὶ τῶν πολλῶν fal , ὁμοφωνία μετὰ πειθοῦς συναδοίσας. Ὃ κατ᾽ ἀρετὰν ἐξάρχων καλέ- 7 ἊΝ ΝΟ ’, ν λίι Ν ’,ὔ εταί τε βασιλεὺς καὶ ἔντι, ταύταν ἔχων φιλίαν τε καὶ κοινωνίαν ποτὶ τὼς ὑπ᾽ αὔταυτον, ἅνπερ 6 θεὸς ποτί τε τὸν κόσμον καὶ τὰ ἐν / a αὐτῷ: “Oday δὲ τὰν εὔνοιαν χρὴ παρασκευάζεσθαι πρᾶτον μὲν - / 7 rn παρὰ TO βασιλέως ἐς τὼς βασιλευομένως, δεύτερον δὲ Tapa τῶνδε a Compare with this the θεῖος λόγος of the Phiedo, 85 d: also the Parmenides, 134 ¢. 2 ΧΡ XXV1 INTRODUCTION , Ἂν / ε ’ὔ \ εἰ \ ἈΝ ἐς τὸν βασιλέα, ὁποία γεννάτορος ποτὶ υἱέα καὶ ποτὶ ποίμναν / \ , \ / .} fad Ἃ ᾿ \ νομέως Kal νόμω ποτὶ χρωμένως αὐτῷ. (Kephantus, περὶ βασι- ; λείας. Ibid. p. 537.) r Ν Μ > / X6 μὲν θεὸς οὔτε διακόνως ἔχων οὔτε ὑπαρέτας οὔτ᾽ αὖ προστάξι Ν “ BE) ‘ / A τινὶ χρώμενος οὐδὲ στεφανῶν ἢ ἀναγορεύων τὼς πειθομένως ἢ 5 / ΩΝ “» / wv 5 > “" 7ὔ ny fy ἀτιμάζων τὼς ἀπειθέοντας-----ἄρχει----ἀλλ᾽ οἶμαι παρέχων ἀξιομί- - - lel con € “ ματον ἑωυτὸν ζᾶλον ἐντίθητι πᾶσι τῆς αὑτῷ φύσιος.... Ὁ ὃ . a n f ἐπίγῃος Tap ἁμῖν βασιλεὺς πῶς οὐχ ὁμοίως αὐταρκής ; ἀπεικάζων Ν ε δ “ / Ν τε γὰρ αὑτόν, ἑνὶ ἂν ἀπεικάσειε τῷ κρατίστῳ, καὶ πάντες ἑαυτὼς na 5 9? ὁ πειρώμενοι τούτῳ ὁμοιοῦν βασιλικοὶ ἔσονται" τὰ δ᾽ ὅσα βίας καὶ ἀνάγκας ἐντὶ τῶν ὑποτεταγμένων, ἐνίοτε ἑκάστῳ τὰν περὶ τὰν μίμασιν προθυμίαν ἀφαιρέεται: χωρὶς εὐνοίας γὰρ ἀμάχανον ἐξο- ἴω ΄ c μοιωθῆναι, ἃ μάλιστα πάντων ἀφανίζει τὸ φοβερόν. “Qs εἴθε ἣν fad 5» 7 7 \ b) Ν \ Ν a τὰς ἀνθρωπίνας φύσιος δυνατὸν ἀφελὲν τὸ καὶ πειθοῦς τινας δέεσθαι. .. . . ἐπειδήπερ πειθὼ ἔργον τί ἐντι παροικέον ἀνάγκᾳ" , Ν oy Te eon ISEN / / 5) / , πράτα yap ad αὑτᾶς αὐτὰ κατεργάζεται τάπερ ἐκείναν διέφυγαν. / ’ na “ lat lo ΄σ “Ὅσα δ᾽ αὐτοφυῶς τῷ καλῷ χρῆται, τούτοις οὐδεμία πειθοῦς αἰδώς" t μ ἐπειδήπερ οὐδὲ φόβος ἀνάγκας. ᾿Βνεργάσαιτο δ᾽ ἂν μόνος 6 βασιλεὺς ἀνθρώπω φύσει καὶ τόδε τὸ ἀγαθόν, ὡς διὰ μίμασιν αὐτῶ τῷ κρέσσονος ποτὶ τὸ δέον ἕπεσθαι. (Ibid. p. 538.) There is much more to the same purport. Now are we to suppose that this somewhat crude represen- tation of what ought to be (resembling perhaps suspiciously in some features the Stoical wise man) is merely a caricature of Plato’s philosopher-king, or had both pictures an ante- cedent in Pythagorean teaching ? However this may be, there is no mistaking the strong lhkeness between the ideal herein absolutely set forth, and that which Plato in the Politicus, according to his manner of treating contemporary views, first states, then gently sets aside, and in the sequel utilizes in a modified form. ‘‘ In speaking of the king as the shepherd of his people, we borrowed the image of majesty from a theo- cratic time. Yet the true statesman is he who rules with knowledge, and harmonizes the state, bringing together the diverse elements of good, and rejecting the bad. He who does this not merely imitates but reproduces the divine image.” On the above data, imperfect as they are, I hazard the following conjecture: That the idea of the rightful sovereignty TO THE STATESMAN. XXVI of wisdom existed in the Pythagorean school before Plato. That Plato’s Republic, partly inspired by this, had given a fresh impulse to the same line of thought amongst the Pytha- gorizing students of the Academy; and that Plato, having in the Sophistes criticized the speculative idealism of these friends of his, being himself perhaps somewhat désillusionné, proceeds to call in question their equally premature idealism in politics: shewing, first, that a ‘paternal government ” does not secure happiness unless it rouse intelligence; and, secondly, that you must “first catch” your ideal king before you can apply your theory to practice. Even if this conjecture should prove baseless, it will hardly be questioned that the analogy which is more than hinted between the Cosmos and the State (6 ξυμμιμούμενοι καὶ συνε- πόμενοι K.T.\.—274 4), the “ purification” of the body politic, and the harmony of divers elements in the web of social life, are notions having a near affinity to Pythagorean teaching. Nor would it be rash to affirm the same of the theory of opposite virtues, which is certainly not Socratic, and is in- troduced as an unusual saying (οὐκ εἰωθότα λόγον οὐδαμῶς--- 306 b). Speaking generally, the most obvious affinities to Pytha- goreanism in Plato’s later writings are, 1. An increasingly religious spirit. 2. Intense interest in all scientific inquiries, to which the name φιλοσοφία" is now applied. 3. The treat- ment of ethical questions (as in the Philebus) from a cosmical point of view. 4. The prevalence of the ideas of harmony, rhythm, and the like, especially in their application to morals and politics. But the Socratic spirit, or rather the mind of Plato awakened long since by Socrates, shines through the cloud of Pythagorean fancies (not that these were without intelli- gence), and reduces them to just proportions by the dry light of reason, while his imagination turns all that it touches into gold. If we could compare the Politicus with an entire writing of Philolaus, Eudoxus, or Speusippus, the probability is that we should find the difference immense: νοῦν ἔχοντας ἔνδον τούτους μόνους εὑρήσεις TOV λόγων. τ Tim. 88 ὁ : μουσικῇ καὶ πάσῃ φιλοσοφίᾳ. Theeet.143 d: γεωμετρικὴν ἥ τινα ἄλλην φιλοσοφίαν. ἐδ ὦ XXVIIl INTRODUCTION We now turn from these preliminaries to examine Plato’s thoughts as they are presented to us in this dialogue. And here there are three topics which chiefly call for remark: the fable of Cronos; the description of existing constitutions, and, in connexion with this, the theory of legislation. Ill. The Myth. This is not the place for discussing, except incidentally, the nature of Plato’s myths as a general feature of his writings. But the solution of several questions which are suggested by this particular tale may perhaps throw some light on the wider problem. (1) What is the motive for interrupting the argument with this narrative? (2) In how far, or in what sense, does Plato believe in the truth of his own story? (3) Is there any humour mingled with the apparent solemnity of tone? (4) What are the precise ideas to whose working this imaginative creation is due? (5) Can these ideas be reconciled with those which Plato has elsewhere expressed ? (6) What effect has the narration in determining the course of argument which is pursued in the remainder of the dialogue? (1.) The chief motive of the fable is to recal the mind from resting in a merely abstract ideal. “ We are not living in the golden age :” that is, in forming our conception of true states- manship we must take account of the imperfect conditions of the actual world. In order to impress this lesson, the simple notion of one who should feed his flock like a shepherd is drawn out at length, embodied in a tale, and associated with a state of innocence and ease, before man eat bread by the sweat of his brow, when all creatures lived in harmony. And still further to point the contrast between the ideal and actual, the gates of this Eden are closed by the story of a change or fall, not caused by any antecedent sin or curse, but by the necessity inherent in created things. An air of probability and even of historic truth is given to this strange fiction, by finding in it an explanation of several fragments of early mythological tradition. The Stranger admits that he has allowed himself to ex- tend his fable beyond what was necessary for the argu- TO THE STATESMAN. ΧΧΙΧ ment. Hence there is no reason why every detail should be made to square with the main design. lato, as is his wont, passes at once from the immediate question to the more general one, of which it is a part; from the imperfect con- ditions of human government to the origin and necessity of evil; so that the cosmical features of the myth grow out of proportion to the political. But the language with which the myth is introduced and the after-comment leave no doubt as to the purpose for which it is inserted. ‘ The king, unlike other herdsmen, has many rivals, who likewise feed the flock.” “The reason of this difficulty is that our definition confounds the king with the Divine shepherd, whereas the statesman of our age cannot in any sense be a nourisher of his people.” As the tale proceeds, there is developed a further lesson: namely, that the simple ideal of a state of innocence is not only impracticable but incomplete; that a βίος τέλειος, a life under perfect conditions, is not necessarily the happiest life. The question is how the life is used: the philosophic spirit is the one essential of true happiness: even one whose choice of a life has been restricted, may, if he use opportunity with all his might, have a tolerable existence (καὶ τελευταίῳ ἐπιόντι, ξὺν νῷ ἑλομένῳ, συντόνως ζῶντι κεῖται Bios ἀγαπητός, οὐ KaKds— Rep. 10, 619 Ὁ) : though if the children of Cronos used their golden time rightly, no doubt they were far happier than we can be. (Cf. Rep. 6, 497 a: ᾿Αλλά τοι, ἢ δ᾽ ὅς, od τὰ ἐλάχιστα ἂν διαπραξάμενος ἀπαλλάττοιτο. Οὐδέ γέ, εἶπον, τὰ μέγιστα, μὴ τυχὼν πολιτείας προσηκούσης" ἐν γὰρ τῇ προσηκούσῃ αὐτός τε μᾶλλον αὐξήσεται καὶ μετὰ τῶν ἰδίων τὰ κοινὰ σώσει.) Plato has shewn in two other passages that an ideal formed by abstracting from existing evils is no sufficient help towards the conception of political or moral excellence; that virtue is not to be sought in the unconscious innocence of childhood ;— once in describing the simple or primitive state in the Republic, Glaucon’s “city of pigs,’ where ‘man’s life is cheap as beast’s,” and again in the endeavour to conceive the origin of society at the opening of the third book of the Laws. But in the former description man needs defence against the in- clemency of winter, is not exempt from work, and answers to the definition of a cooking animal, though his cooking is of the simplest. In the latter the mountain shepherds whom the XXX INTRODUCTION flood of Deucalion spared to be a sort of germ of future humanity, living peacefully together because they had few companions and there was enough for all, when there were neither poor nor rich, nor insolence, nor injustice, nor envy, but simplicity and good faith, are not set forth as an ideal, though they are said to be better than men after them, but are pictured in order to assist the conception of the origin of law, by imagining a previous state of “patriarchal” govern- ment in which the habits and traditions of each family were supreme. Legislation became necessary when these clashed in the early life of cities’. Here, on the other hand, Plato has given his fancy free scope to revel in the details of a spontaneous universal life: where there is no unsatisfied longing, no effort, no pangs of birth, no crying of the infant “that he is come to this great stage of fools',’ no old age, no flesh that sees corruption: the more unlike his picture is to present realities, the better he attains his end, by enforcing the necessity (however unwelcome, Legg. 803 Ὁ, ἔστι δὴ τοίνυν τὰ τῶν ἀνθρώπων πράγματα μεγάλης μὲν σπουδῆς οὐκ ἄξια, ἀναγκαῖόν γε μὴν σπουδάζειν, τοῦτο δὲ οὐκ εὐτυχές) of adapting inquiry as well as practical effort to the actual lot of man. And by adding a few extravagant or even grotesque touches, he gives play to his humour, and gently ridicules those who were content to rest in the simple unap- plied conception of a paternal king. The substance of the myth is therefore very similar to the remark in the Lysis: “ Supposing evil to be done away, would there be no more hunger or thirst or anything of the kind ; or would there be hunger, as inseparable from animal life, but no longer hurtful; and thirst and other desires, but without bringing harm; or is it absurd to ask what would happen or not happen then, for who can tell? But one thing we know, that, in our present state, hunger and other desires are sometimes productive of evil, but may sometimes be a means of good.” (2.) A recent writer on the Myths of Plato" says not only s A nearer parallel from the Laws Κλαῦσά τε kal κώκυσα, ἰδὼν ἀσυνη- will be quoted presently. θέα χῶρον. * Compare with this of Shakspeare u Mr. Westcott in the Contemporary the fragment of Empedocles, 1. 13, Review for June, 1866. ΤῸ THE STATESMAN. XXX1 that “ Plato claims that his myths are above all true in spirit ;’ and that “the central idea of the myth is affirmed absolutely ;” but also that “in some cases the whole story is distinctly asserted to be historical’.’ “He” (Plato) “ dis- claims in fact the title Myth in a disparaging sense for the stories to which we now apply it. They are,” he says, “ real narratives (λόγοι) and not myths*, and where he does use the word, he still maintains the existence of a substantial basis of fact for such myths as admit of an historical test’.” The same writer adduces in proof of this the care with which Plato in the Republic apologizes for his “ Pheenician lie.” Mr. Grote in a somewhat different tone, but to the same effect, says of the Critias, ‘“‘ Plato wishes us to believe that the trans- action is historical. As to particular narratives the line between truth and fiction was obscurely drawn in his mind.” These remarks are quoted merely to shew that it is not an idle question to ask, How far did Plato believe in the literal truth of the present narration ? The answer may partly be deduced from two places of the Republic in which Plato’s own conception of the nature of a myth is expressed. a. “ There are two kinds of oral instruction, one false, one true; and the false must precede the true. For a fable is a falsehood containing truths.’ He then lays down the rule for instructive fictions, that they must convey true and just notions about Divine things and about human life. (Rep. 2, 377°) b. And one of these true notions about Divine things is, that God cannot lie: amongst other reasons, because he has perfect knowledge, and need not have recourse to fables which he knows to be false, in order to gain an approximate concep- tion of antiquity, as men are compelled to do (ἐν ταῖς μυθολογίαις διὰ τὸ μὴ εἰδέναι ὅπῃ τἀληθὲς ἔχει περὶ τῶν παλαιῶν ἀφομοιοῦντες τῷ ἀληθεῖ τὸ ψεῦδος ὅτι μάλιστα, οὕτω χρήσιμον ποιοῦμεν. Rep. ΡΟΣ ἢ); A myth therefore, in the Platonic sense, is a fictitious narra- tive, (a) conveying true ideas, and (6) in reference to occurrences v “‘See Timeeus, 20 d, 21 a,d, 26 c. x “Gorgias, 523 a. Compare pp. x And so Critias invokes Memory to help 526d, 527 a; Meno, 81 d, e.” him in relating the whole story.” y “ Politicus, 268 e, 269 a, b.” XXXil INTRODUCTION beyond the range of actual knowledge, supplying imagined probabilites for ascertained facts. The latter is Plato’s version of the ordinary function of mythology (Critias, p. 110 a, μυθο- λογία yap ἀναζήτησίς te τῶν παλαιῶν μετὰ σχολῆς ἅμ᾽ ἐπὶ τὰς πόλεις ἔρχεσθον) : the former is the special condition or limit which he imposes on its use. In practice this conception of the myth is further modified, by the dramatic and poetic form in which Plato’s philosophy is cast. The myth in the Protagoras, for example, though closely parallel in some of the details to that in the Politicus, is meant to convey an idea which Socrates combats and which Plato evidently does not fully accept. So also the elaborate myth of Aristophanes in the Symposium contains a phase of thought about the origin of Love, which is afterwards glanced at as an hypothesis of little value (Symp. 205 e). And as the myth is coloured to suit the particular speaker, so it partakes of the peculiar spirit of the particular dialogue. We hear nothing in the Pheedrus about the judgment of the dead, nor in the Republic about the wings of the soul, nor in the Sym- posium about her previous existence and future life; nor in the Gorgias about the edict of Lachesis. And if there is not perfect consistency in these greater matters, there is of course still more variety in the minor incidents with which Plato’s fertile imagination when once set to work gives all the distinet- ness of reality (ἐνάργειαν) to each separate picture. The harmonist of Piato’s myths would have a task only less difficult than the rationalist of the old mythology (ἅτε ἀγροικῷ τινι σοφίᾳ χρώμενος, πολλῆς αὐτῷ σχολῆς δεήσει). But Plato, like every poet, delights in making his fiction as like life as possible, and amongst other artifices is the asseveration of the truth of what is said. When Critias calls Mnemosyne to his aid, or when Socrates in the boldest part of the Phedrus says, “ We must speak the truth, especially since truth is our theme?,” is it possible not to detect a covert smile? And when the speaker in the Timeus so carefully traces every link in the chain of tradition by which the tale of Atlantis had come through Egypt to Solon, and from Solon to the aged Critias, are we not at once reminded of the words 2 It is of this part that Socrates is somewhat abated, ἔοικε... τὰ μὲν says afterwards, when his fine frenzy ἄλλα παιδιᾷ πεπαῖσθαι. TO THE STATESMAN. XXXII of Phdrus (which by the way have reference to an equally circumstantial tale), “Ὁ Socrates, you can make Kgyptian stories or any others with equal ease” ? The words of Socrates to Callicles, “You will call this a story, but I call it a true account,” must be interpreted by the remark which follows : “You will despise this as an old wives’ fable, and indeed it would be natural to despise my words, if we could find any- thing better or truer, but in all our inquiries this one principle remains firm, that we must fly from doing more than from suffering wrong :” where Socrates insists on the truth, not of the myth itself, but of the lesson which the myth conveys. It is probably from the same artistic instinct and with the same purpose of giving an air of probability to his inventions, that he founds them, as it is indeed natural he should do, upon the traditions already familiar to his countrymen. These formed the common medium through which he could communi- cate his ideas. He moulds them, indeed, with great ingenuity to his purposes. Poets had always dealt freely with mythology. But by appealing to the story of Atreus, or Deucalion, or Prometheus, for confirmation of some part of his recital, he seemed to bridge the gulf between the known and unknown. This practice, as well as the groundwork of Pythagorean beliefs, with which Plato had, no doubt, strong personal sym- pathy, gives a degree of consistency to the body of the Platonic myths which they would not have otherwise. And he assumes Such an air of simple truthfulness in telling his story, that by this art concealing art, a certain probability is given to the wildest imaginations. “ Uncertainties now crown themselves assured.” It is chiefly in the latest dialogues that the myth is seriously applied by Plato to the second of the two purposes which he acknowledges in the Republic, the reproduction of prehistoric events. There seems to be a transition, or growth, on the imaginative side of his philosophy corresponding to that already noticed on the dialectical side: from the abstract to the concrete, from vague fancies instinct with speculative ideas, like the procession in the Pheedrus, to supposed facts, like the war of Athens with Atlantis. He seeks to apply his meta- physical philosophy, which by this time acknowledged a prin- ciple of change and production, to the interpretation of the actual world, and he supplies the defects of experience and oie XXX1V INTRODUCTION observation by the help of imagination. And he claims for his tales the same degree of truth which he assigns to poetry (Lege. 3, 682 a): θεῖον yap οὖν δὴ Kal τὸ ποιητικὸν ἐνθεαστικὸν dv γένος ὑπνῳδοῦν πολλῶν τῶν κατ᾽ ἀλήθειαν γιγνομένων ξύν τισι Χάρισι καὶ Μούσαις ἐφάπτεται ἑκάστοτε. This tendency may be illustrated by comparing the Republic, Timeeus, and Laws, of which the order of sequence is undoubted. The city founded in the Republic has no local habitation on earth, unless in some unknown and distant land, “ far enough out of our ken,” though perhaps such a state may have existed at some period in the infinite succession of past time. In the Timeeus and Critias this state is discovered, not far away in place, but remote in time, the Athens of a forgotten age contending successfully against a nation who were all that historical Athens desired to be. The state for which the Athenian Stranger legislates in the Laws, is a new Cretan settlement, imaginary of course, but imagined under the conditions of Plato’s own time. To return now to the Statesman and to apply some of the preceding remarks to the myth before us. The main incident, the change on which all other change depends, is mentioned nowhere else by Plato. The artistic completeness and unity of the Great Myth is very striking. Though it differs from other Platonic myths, it may be said to comprehend them from a greater imaginative height. He speaks in the Timzeus of periodic destructions of life upon the earth by earthquake, fire or flood, and in the Laws the same thing is assumed. But the reverse movement of the whole universe, the relinguish- ment of the helm of the great vessel, and the consequent gradual deterioration of all things, is a conception occurring nowhere else. Jt is adopted for the occasion, for the enforce- ment of a particular lesson. The old fable of the autochthones is one which Plato delights in using. It appears in the Prota- goras, Symposium, Republic, Sophist, Timeeus, Critias, and elsewhere. But it is nowhere else imagined that men coming fullgrown from the earth, go backwards through the stages of manhood, boyhood, infancy, and so pass away. ‘There is a picture of a theocracy, founded on the reign of Cronos, in the Critias and Laws as well as here. But here only the other animals are placed under Divine superintendence as well TO THE STATESMAN. XXXV as man, and a reason is given for the cessation of this form of government. Again, while here and in the Laws the Divine guidance is immediate, in the Critias, Hephaestus and Athena act by creating good men as legislators. These dis- erepancies are not greater than those previously mentioned, and therefore cause no suspicion of spuriousness, but they suffice to shew how little wisdom there would be in taking Plato’s meaning literally ; or in attributing the care which is taken to provide a channel through which the tradition may have been preserved, or the solemn air with which disbelief is deprecated, to anything but the anxiety of a Defoe or Swift to make the illusion as complete as possible. (3.) This leads us to the third question proposed above—Is there an element of humour in the fable or in the manner of telling it? If on other grounds we believe Plato to be the author of the Politicus, we can hardly doubt that there is. He must have felt the humorousness of making the respondent answer so promptly to the first statement of the astounding fact, “‘ All that you say seems extremely probable ;” and he must have shared the amusement of his reader in contem- plating the dwindling forms of the earth-born race: just as Empedocles (however firmly he believed it) must have smiled, if he had any humour, at his own invention of the κόρσαι ἀναύχενες, the βραχίονες εὔνιδες ὥμων, the βουγενῆ avdpo- πρωρα, and ἀνδροφυῆ βούκρανα. Having again alluded to this singular passage (Polit. 270 d, e). it may be well to take the opportunity of explaining the motives which seem to have suggested the addition of this peculiar feature. It has the twofold effect of giving greater consistency and completeness to the story, and of pointing the contrast between the two alternate cycles. A link was needed to combine the change in the heavenly motion with the production of mankind from earth, which Plato chose, for a purpose of his own, to associate with the spontaneous generation of all things in the reign of Saturn. A hint for this appeared in the description of Hesiod: “They had no old age: their death was like a sleep.” Now if, like the heroes of Cadmus, they rose full- grown from the ground, and saw not grey hairs, since their age could not stand still, it must go backwards. And this would be only in accordance with the change in the universal motion, ie ΧΧΧΥῚ INTRODUCTION But the more naturally the result follows from the premises, the more effectively it strikes the imagination with the greatness of the supposed revolution. Hence it is put in the foreground of the picture, μέγιστον δὲ πόδε κι τ. λ. And here there peeps out a deeper vein of ironical humour from beneath the matter-of- course gravity of the narration. “ If ever there is a beneficent paternal government on earth,’ Plato seems to say, “ it will be when iron swims and rivers run back to their fountains*.” But it need not be assumed that he has no sympathy with the ideal at which he smiles, as being εὐηθέστερον τοῦ δέοντος: Compare Thezt. 200 Ὁ, γελοίοις περιστερεῶσιν, Rep. 7, 536 Ὁ, γελοῖον δ᾽ ἔγωγε καὶ ἐν τῷ παρόντι ἔοικα παθεῖν, where Plato openly laughs at his own enthusiasm. (4.) But if the myth is poetry and not history, and is even tinged with humour, what are the serious thoughts which this strange medium is chosen to convey? There is, first, the main purpose which has been already described, to lift the imagi- nation to the conception of a theocracy, and so to remove by a sort of “ homceopathic” remedy the crudities of a shallow optimism. Very similar means are used in the Laws to shew that unlimited monarchy is unsuitable for the present state of man. But when this principal thought is once admitted, other reflections crowd in. They are such as the following. In our present state, evil is inextricably mixed with good: and is indeed so predominant, that God would seem to have left the world to itself. For in all that is created, evil is the necessary consequence of freedom. ‘The practical lesson for man is that he too is made the guardian of his own life, and in conjunction with necessity, the builder of his own destiny. And as the universe and the animal kingdom follow, so far as they can recall it, the pattern of the Divine cycle, so man should track out everywhere the vestiges of the Divine wisdom which still remain»: believing, that although the Creator has a change of κίνησις followed by a change of γένεσις. a The notion of “a life which is a σῶμα ἀφομοιούμενα." For the child is gradual disrobing of the spirit from its earthly dress,’ which one interpreter finds here, is well imagined, but is surely inconsistent with the words, “ εἰς τὴν τοῦ νεογενοῦς παιδὸς φύσιν ἄπήει, κατά τε τὴν Ψυχὴν καὶ κατὰ τὸ not Plato’s type of the unclouded reason, the “best philosopher, seer blest”’ of Wordsworth. b ὅσον ev ἡμῖν ἀθανασίας ἔνεστι, τούτῳ πειθομένους. Lege. 4, 713 6. TO THE STATESMAN. ΧΧΧΥῚΙ entered on His Sabbath of contemplation‘, His eye is still upon the world and all things in it, and that, being good, He will not forsake the work of His hands, but will restore His creature to the fulness of life and immortality in due time. Meanwhile we may be consoled by the reflection, that a life under perfect conditions is not a happy life, unless it is spent in philosophy, and that the philosophic spirit in whatever con- ditions is the earnest of happiness here and hereafter. Subordinate to this main argument are several incidental thoughts :—1. God is not the author of evil. He cannot con- tradict His own nature. 2. By parity of reasoning, there cannot be opposite Divine Powers of evil and good. (Is there here an allusion to Zoroastrianism’) 3. God permits evil, as the inevitable concomitant of a bodily nature. 4. God is the only source of life and immortality. 5. In a theocracy there would be no laws but the Divine Will, no marrying or giving in marriage, for each new being would be the immediate work of the Divine Hand. 6. Philosophy is the interrogation of all natures. 7. Man in his primitive state is weak and de- fenceless: he receives from Heaven only such gifts and such instruction as are- indispensable in order that he may improve these by the exercise of his own invention under the stimulus of necessity. 8. The idea of transmigration and of the soul forgetting every thing at birth is assumed as a matter of course. It need hardly be said that all these thoughts are “plastic” here; i.e. they are not first thought out and then figuratively expressed, but emerge together with their symbols in the united play of reason and imagination. (5.) Several difficulties occur, even on the above shewing, in comparing the myth with other utterances of Plato. (a) Can this picture of the permission of evil be reconciled with the goodness of the Creator as represented in the Timeus? (ὁ) Is the relegation of the principle of communism to the golden age consistent with the fifth book of the Republic, or the dis- paragement of the education of perfect circumstances with the ideal of μουσικὴ in the second book ? The answer must be that these views are not perfectly consistent, but that a probable reason can be given for each discrepancy. > ε ~ \ 5 7) © εἰς τὴν αὑτοῦ περιωπὴν ἀπέστη. XXXVI INTRODUCTION a. The Deity of the Timzeus effects all without moving from his place, and when his commands are given ‘ continues in the same stay’? The Deity of the Politicus is said in a figure to leave the helm of the universe and retire to his speculative height. The Deity of the Timzeus confers an absolute immor- tality on the stars; the Deity of the Politicus suffers the whole visible universe to totter on the verge of dissolution. The universe in the Timeeus, though not exempt from evils, as a whole is “very good.” The universe in the Politicus copies the pattern of the Divine movement so clumsily that at length the good is almost overwhelmed by the evil. That the same writer could be possessed at different times with views so divergent, is a fact which may be classed with other “ con- trasts of prophecy.” It may be partly explained by the pecu- liar bitterness with which the author, at the time of writing this dialozue, seems to have looked upon the world. But there are other reasons. The motive of the piece is m the one case cosmological, in the other ethical: that is, the Uni- verse is held up as a mirror to exhibit on a large scale the condition of man. In the Timeeus therefore the ills which flesh is heir to have a subordinate place, in the Politicus they are seen in the greatest prominence; and while in the one account human action is determined by physical constitution®, in the other, man, with the Universe, is left to the guidance of his own will. Further, the direct object of this fable is to contrast the actual with the ideal, whereas the purpose of the Timeeus is to exhibit the production of the Cosmos in accord- ance with the idea of good. The music of the Timeus is more highly strung’, for there the movements of the Same and Other are combined in the formation of the mundane soul, whereas here the opposite movements take place alternately. This difference is like that which Plato notices between Heraclitus and Empedocles; of whom the latter resolved the movements which the former united. (Symp.187 a, Soph. 242 e.) At least equally discordant with the Timzeus is the assumption in the Laws that there are two kinds of soul, one essentially evil, the other good: and 4 Tim. 42e. Compare the fine saying © Tim. 87 sqq. of Xenophanes, ἄλλ᾽ ἀπάνευθε πόνοιο ! συντονωτέρα. νόου φρενὶ πάντα κραδαίνει. TO THE STATESMAN. XXXIX the distance between man and God is even more emphatically stated in many passages of this, Plato’s latest writing. Having noticed the difference, it is right to point out the resemblance between the two myths. In both, God brings the Universe in the beginning out of disorder into order, so far as this is possible for a being which has a bodily frame, though animated by a soul, both in the form of reason and desire. He is the father, the composer, the artificer, the source of immortality, the author of all excellence and beauty in His creature. And because He is good, He will not see the disso- lution of that which He has made. Yet constrained by neces- sity, he permits periodical destructions of living creatures from the face of the world. b. The children of Cronos, like the guardians in the Republic, have no possession of wives and children. Here is a point of coincidence, and yet of discrepancy: for that which in the Republic is planned as a scheme possible though difficult, is here removed into cloud-land. In the Laws also it is reiterated that the community of wives and children is the condition of the perfect state; but in that dialogue the laws of marriage are similar to those sketched out at the conclusion of this, providing for the intermixture as far as possible of courageous and gentle breeds. On this point I can only suggest a con- jecture. Is it possible that Plato had once hoped to see something like his ideal polity realized, and that his hopes (by the fall of Dion or otherwise) had been frustrated? This would account not only for the difference in this particular, but also for the contrast between the hopefulness of the Republic and the almost despair of human nature visible in the Statesman. But this is a speculation to which we shall have occasion to return. A reason which may be assigned with greater safety (while not inconsistent with the foregoing) is the more vivid realization in this dialogue of the actual con- ditions of human things: and this will also account for the remaining discrepancy, viz. that while in the Republic great virtue is assigned to the “surroundings” of childhood and youth as a means of education, it is left doubtful here whether the children of the golden age profited by their opportunities or not. It is true that the two passages do not directly con- flict with each other, but the one shews a higher estimate of xl INTRODUCTION the value of ideal circumstances than the other. (Note espe- cially the words ἵν᾽ ὥσπερ ἐν ὑγιεινῷ τόπῳ οἰκοῦντες οἱ νέοι ἀπὸ παντὸς ὠφελῶνται, ὁπόθεν ἂν αὐτοῖς ἀπὸ τῶν καλῶν ἔργων ἢ πρὸς ὄψιν ἢ πρὸς ἀκοήν τι προσβάλῃ, ὥσπερ αὔρα φέρουσα ἀπὸ χρη- στῶν τόπων ὑγίειαν, καὶ εὐθὺς ἐκ παίδων λανθάνῃ εἰς ὁμοιότητά τε καὶ φιλίαν καὶ ξυμφωνίαν τῷ καλῷ λόγῳ ἄγουσα---- 60. 3, 401 ο.) (6.) Plato often allows a theory which he has formally re- jected to influence the after-course of the discussion. Thus in commenting on the Theetetus it was observed that the theory of “impressions” although discarded is afterwards applied (209 ¢, πρὶν ἂν ἣ σιμότης αὕτη διάφορόν τι μνημεῖον παρ᾽ ἐμοὶ ἐνσημηναμένη κατάθηται): and in the Republic the ideal of a simple life, which Socrates rejects in order to humour Glaucon, and to account for the existence of a warrior caste, insensibly returns. It might be thought that when the tale was ended, and the error of “ too great simplicity” corrected, we had done with the Divine Shepherd. But the idealizing impulse is too strong. We have turned our faces resolutely to look for the Statesman amongst mankind. But the light which accompanies the search is from a higher world. And when in comparison with the vision which our eyes have seen, the actual statesmen of the earth appear contemptible or monstrous, there still rises before us, in addition to the six forms of government which experience recognizes, a seventh form, which is no other than the Divme image». The scenery of the myth, the alternate cycles, the periodic destructions from physical causes, the earth-born race, are as though they had not been, but the ideal of true sovereignty still flits before the eye of the mindi. This ideal, however, is now connected with the postulate, that Statesmanship is a science, with which the dialogue began: and it is sought to realize this with some reference to the existing conditions of human society. First, the actual forms of government are shewn not to be based on any principle of reason; yet it is assumed that, so far as they are constitutional, they are unconsciously imitating, 8 εὐηθέστερα τοῦ δέοντος. Polit.276e. cipit se dormire, timet excitari, blan- h Compare Descartes, Meditatio 1, disque illusionibus lente connivet, sic sub fin. “Nec aliter quam captivus, sponte labor in veteres opiniones.” qui forte imaginaria libertate fruebatur i Compare the middle and end of in somniis, quum posted suspicari in- the Pheedrus. TO THE STATESMAN. xl though with decreasing accuracy (here the influence of the myth appears againk), that Divine pattern of which the sovereignty of knowledge would be a conscious and perfect imitation. Now a perfect imitation is no longer an imitation, but the thing itself: and thus we return to our ideal image. But this ideal is no longer merely abstract. The king as a commanding artist is seen purging the community of incurably bad elements, subduing the refractory, and ordering aright the diversities of excellence which exist amongst his noblest subjects. His function is defined relatively to that of the general, the judge, the orator; and the result of his rule is not described as perfect happiness, but such happiness as is possible for a community. The separation of Divine and human which the myth suggests, is for the first time carried out consistently in the Laws!, where the acknowledgement reluctantly muttered out in the Politicus is fully made, namely, that a paternal despotism has only once been realized, viz., in the golden age when man lived under a theocracy; but that human nature under existing conditions is too weak to bear the temptations incident to absolute power. IV. The Seven Forms of Government. The subject of political constitutions is treated differently by Plato in the Republic and the Laws. In the Republic the ordinary threefold distinction of oligarchy, democracy, and despotism is put into the mouth of Thrasymachus, who argues from this that the strongest govern for their own ends. Plato himself appends to his picture of the perfect state an ideal picture of four successive forms of gradual deterioration from this type, timocracy, oligarchy, democracy, and tyranny ; each lower than the former, and arising out of it through a natural development of evil. The ruling principle of the first is honour, of the second wealth, of the third individual freedom, of the last passion. This arrangement is no doubt partly determined by the analogy of the individual, which, in accord- ance with the plan of the dialogue, is throughout kept promi- K Polit. 273 Ὁ, τελευτῶν δὲ ἀμβλύ- pressed in the Laws is the religious τερον. counterpart of the severance of the 1 4,713. The sense of the distance ideal from the actual which is so of man from God so frequently ex- strongly felt in the Politicus. Χ 8 ΧΙ INTRODUCTION nently in view. In the timocracy, which nearly corresponds to the Laconian ideal, the spirited element gains predominance, and is emancipated from the control of the reason. In the other three forms, Desire, first, of wealth, secondly, of unre- strained action, thirdly, of gratifying the ruling passion, has the upper hand. Three distinct arrangements are adopted in different places of the Laws, all different from that just mentioned :— 1. The order of historical development. Legg. 3, 676-683. a. Single families, without written laws. Θεμιστεύει δὲ ἕκαστος παίδων ἠδ᾽ ἀλόχων οὐδ᾽ ἀλλήλων ἀλέγουσιν. Ὁ. Patriarchal Government. Βασιλείαν πασῶν δικαιο- τάατην. a . The early life of cities, in which opposite customs are harmonized by legislation. ἃ, Maritime cities are built ; the beginning of commerce, war, sedition. . Return of the Heraclids. Laconian and Cretan con- stitutions. ic) 2. Two prime forms, democracy and monarchy, representing the tendencies of the West and East. The best constitution must have an admixture of both, so as to secure order and liberty. The Laconian and Cretan settlements had this good fortune. Legg. 3, 691. 3. For the above-named reason, these alone of existing governments deserve the name of πολιτεία. The four com- monly named, royalty, aristocracy, democracy, and tyranny, are not constitutions, but factious coteries (στασιωτεῖαι), which govern, not for the interest of the state, but, as Thrasymachus said, for the maintenance of the existing authority. The only true constitution is that in which, instead of one part of the city being in subjection to another part, all are together subject to the rule of reason in the form of law. In the Politicus we have first an enumeration of the forms of government according to common notions: then a criticism of these, followed by a fresh enumeration. Common opinion is said to acknowledge five forms instead of the three vaunted by Thrasymachus in Rep. bk. 1. Instead ΤῸ THE STATESMAN, xl of his “tyranny” we have the higher generalization of mon- archy (the word μοναρχία occurs only in the Politicus and the Laws). This is subdivided into royalty and tyranny, according as the subjects are willing or unwilling. Instead of his “aristocracy”? we have the more general ἡ ὑπὸ τῶν ὀλίγων δυναστεία, (cf. Lege. 710 e, ὀλιγαρχία τὴν τοῦ τοιούτου, 1. 6. τοῦ νομοθετοῦ, γένεσιν χαλεπώτατα δύναιτ᾽ ἂν προσδέξασθαι: πλεῖστοι γὰρ ἐν αὐτῇ δυνάσται γίγνονται) : which is divided, according to the principle of wealth on the one hand, and constitutionalism on the other, into oligarchy and aristocracy “of fair name” (τὴν εὐώνυμον). The fifth is democracy, which, whether ruling by gentleness or violence, and whether constitutional or not, has the same name. But when tried by the standard of scientific government, not one of these is found to be based on principle: they are seen not to be forms of government at all (od πολιτεῖαι), but only imitations more or less remote of the one true form; and the men who head them are not statesmen, but partisans, the phantom-guardians of phantom-states. Of the imitations however, some are better, some are worse. And here a principle is admitted which had no place in the perfect state. The better or worse of the bad states are distinguished by the observance or defiance of law. All else is accident, except the original wisdom of the Laws, and the degree in which they are obeyed. Hence the original classi- fication is thus modified. First, the scientific state is alone allowed the name, so that the five are swallowed up in one (τὰ πέντε ὀνόματα τῶν νῦν λεγομένων πολιτειῶν ἕν μόνον γέγονεν). But of the false states there are now I. Monarchy with law, 2. Monarchy without law, called βασιλεία. Tupavvls. 3. The dynasty of a few 4. The dynasty of a few observing the laws = defying the laws= ἀριστοκρατία. ὀλιγαρχία. 5. Democracy with law. 6. Democracy without law. The true state being kept apart, ὥσπερ θεὸς ἐξ ἀνθρώπων, the following is the order of excellence, or rather of com- parative badness amongst the other six :— ἕω g 2, xliy INTRODUCTION 1. βασιλεία (τ). . ἀριστοκρατία (3). 2 . δημοκρατία μετὰ νόμων (5). . δημοκρατία ἄνευ νόμων (6). . ὀλιγαρχία (4). . τυραννίς (2). Am Af © ὦ Now this order differs at the first glance in two important respects from that given in the eighth and ninth books of the tepublic. These are, first, the addition of βασιλεία as one of the lower forms, and, secondly, the depression of ὀλιγαρχία below δημοκρατία. ᾿Αριστοκρατία may be allowed to correspond to the τιμοκρατία of the Republic. But it so happens that on both these points there is a corresponding difference between the Republic and the Laws. For in that dialogue, as we have seen, βασιλεία (a sort of eastern monarchy is probably intended) is one of the four forms commonly received to which the Athe- nian Stranger denies the name of constitution. And demo- cracy, as one of the two “mother polities” of which monarchy is the other, is throughout placed before oligarchy, against which Plato seems latterly to have conceived an increased enmity. (Hven in the Republic he calls it συχνῶν γέμουσα κακῶν πολιτεία.) When we add to these two ροϊηΐβ the coincidences of language above mentioned (μοναρχία, δυναστεία), a presump- tion is raised that the doctrine of the Politicus on this subject is nearer to the Laws than to the Republic. And on coming a little closer, we see that in the Republic these distinctions are thought to depend on essential differences of form (4, 445 ἃ, εἴδη ἔχοντες: 8, 544d, ἣ τις καὶ ἐν εἴδει διαφανεῖ τινι κεῖται), and to have a natural order of sequence of which a reason can be given. But in the Politicus they are seen to be distinguished by no principle, the only real difference between states being first enlightenment or igno- rance in the ruler, and next the maintenance or the neglect of law. And not far removed from this view, though more adapted to a legislative treatise, is the assertion in the Laws that the constitutions commonly so called are not constitutions at all, and that the only true state is that where reason rules in the form of law. Once more, when in the Politicus the TO THE STATESMAN. xlv statesmen of existing states are said to be not what they pro- fess, but partisans (οὐ πολιτικοὶ ἀλλὰ στασιαστικοί), this comes very near the remark in the Laws that the radical vice of all the received forms of government except the Spartan and Cretan is that one part rules the rest for its own advantage. They are not constitutions but coteries (οὐ πολιτεῖαι, ἀλλὰ στασιωτεῖαι). V. Theory of Legislation. The presumption thus raised is further confirmed when we examine the very curious piece of mingled satire and inquiry in which the distinction between constitutional and unconstitutional government is illustrated. “If the true sovereign and law- giver, or a second like him, were on earth,” we are told, “ he would be above law; which is only an imperfect substitute for the universal and immediate superintendence of the Per- feet Will.” The physician is not bound to follow his old pre- scriptions under altered circumstances. But now he is “ gone into a far country,” or, as the myth would say, Providence has left us to ourselves: and men have despaired of finding their natural ruler, whom, when once found, they would follow like a swarm of bees. Therefore there is nothing left to them but to preserve their country’s laws, which, it may be pre- sumed, were made at first after the Divine pattern, so far as those who framed them knew. What a poor business this is at best is shewn by the case of an imaginary state, in which the arts of navigation and medicine or any others should be practised according to ancient laws enacted in popular or oligarchical assemblies at the advice of chance persons. But when the wretchedness of such a condition has been fully exhibited, a lower deep is opened, by imagining a state, whether democratical, oligarchical, or tyrannical, in which such laws, however imperfect, should be over-borne, not by higher knowledge, but by private gain or favour. Hence it is concluded that in the absence of a philosophic ruler, the best course possible (as a δεύτερος πλοῦς) is a strict observance of the laws. Now in the Republic, the sanguine founders of that city in the heavens deliberately dispense with a minute xlvi INTRODUCTION code of laws. These are thought unnecessary because in the greatest thing, viz. education, the whole community will be spontaneously obedient to the philosopher-king, and in little things those who have been thus educated will be a law to themselves; or in any case will be only what education makes them. The pages in which this thought is expressed (4, 423 e—427 a), had they not been found in an earlier writing, might have been taken for a criticism of the Leges. It is indeed granted, in words which should acquit Plato of Utopianism (5, 472 b—473 b), that practice can never attain to the perfection of theory, but the idea of lowering the sails of theory, in order to try a second course, when the first is hopeless, does not occur to Socrates, and certainly would be very far from acceptable to the impetuous Glaucon. The necessity of this humbler course is somewhat sadly admitted by the Athenian Stranger in the Laws. He prefaces the introduction of the very class of regulations (those which are over and above the rules for nurture and education), against which Socrates protests in the passage above quoted (9, 875 a), with the remark that laws are necessary, because no human being has at once the wisdom to see, and also the power and the will to do, at every moment what is for the universal interest, and to make his own interest always secondary. ‘‘Could one be found theoretically convinced that whatever was for the public good was on the whole good for him, yet, if placed in a position of absolute and irrespon- sible authority, he would be too weak to apply his theory consistently through a long life. His mortal nature shrinking from pain and desiring pleasure would darken his judgment of what is just and good. But if Providence were to send on earth such a nonpareil, whose nature was suflicient for this work, he would not need to place himself under the control of law. (Compare Polit. 295 Ὁ, σχολῇ ἂν ἑαυτῷ θεῖτ᾽ ἐμποδίσ- ματα γράφων τοὺς λεχθέντας τούτους νόμους.) It is because Nature has been so niggardly in this particular (νῦν 6¢—od γὰρ ἔστιν οὐδαμοῦ οὐδαμῶς, ἀλλ᾽ ἢ κατὰ βραχύ) that we are forced to adopt a course which is only second-best, in enacting laws, whose application is general only, not universal.” The reflection which prompts these words, viz. that prac- tical rules must be accommodated to our experience of human ΤῸ THE STATESMAN. xlvii weakness, pervades the whole dialogue, and should always be present to the reader of the Laws. It does not follow that Plato has relinquished his ideal of life, because in recommend- ing a second-best polity to those who have refused his best, he admits some details which he had once rejected with seorn™. The feeling with which he does so could not be more clearly expressed than in the words with which he defends the admission within certain limits of election by lot: τὸ yap ἐπιεικὲς καὶ ξύγγνωμον τοῦ τελέου Kal ἀκριβοῦς παρὰ δίκην τὴν ὀρθήν ἐστι παρατεθραυμένον, ὅταν γίγνηται ". This procedure follows naturally as a practical result from the reasoning in the Politicus. If, seeing that the philosopher- king cannot always be with his people, the only wise course for states is to maintain their laws, which have an imperfect and remote reflection of principles of divine government: suppose an occasion to arise for founding a new state, or some rare opportunity for remodelling an old one®, what are the laws which, as the best possible substitute for the continual presence of an enlightened will, the true law-giver would actually impose? and what are their reasons and their sanctions? This is the problem which the Stranger in the Politicus im- plicitly suggests, but apparently despairs of answering: for the sketch with which the dialogue ends represents the highest statesmanship working without the instrumentality of law, though in a more practical way than in the Republic. m See esp. Lege. 5, 739 Ὁ: τὸ δ᾽ states builf on foundations which ἔστιν ὀρθότατα, εἰπεῖν μὲν τὴν ἀρίστην πολιτείαν καὶ δευτέραν καὶ τρίτην, δοῦ- ναι δὲ εἰπόντα αἵρεσιν ἑκάστῳ τῷ TiS συνοικήσεως" κυρίῳ. n Another admission to which he confesses himself almost driven (4, 708 e) is, that ‘‘constitutions are not made, but grow” (as οὐδείς ποτε ἀνθρώπων οὐδὲν νομοθετεῖ, τύχαι δὲ καὶ ξυμφοραὶ παντοῖαι πίπτουσαι παν- τοίως νομοθετοῦσι τὰ πάντα ἡμῖν). Α noticeable passage, in which human art occupies only the third place with Providence and chance. There is an approach to a similar feeling in Polit. 302 a, where the longevity of many yeason pronounces ruinous, provokes the reflection “‘what strength and tenacity there is in the very nature of a state” (ὡς ἰσχυρόν τι πόλις ἐστὶ φύσει). ° This in the Laws is not the rise of a philosopher-king, but the con- currence of a well-disposed and intelli- gent despot with a wise law-giver. It should be observed that a provision is made in Legg. 6, 769, 770 (cf. 12, 951), though by no means an adequate provision, for the constitutional amend- ment of the law. This is a step in advance of the political doctrine of the Statesman. xlvill INTRODUCTION An instructive parallel to the teaching of the Politicus on this subject appears in the Critias, in which three phases of political life are described, which nearly exemplify the Eleatic Stranger’s theory. First the people of pre-historic Athens, whose autochthon founders, created by Hephestus and Athena, had been inspired by them to order their state? (as we learn from the opening of the Timzeus) in accordance with the provisions of the Republic. Next the kings of the race of Poseidon, each of whom had power of life and death in his own city, but was bound in his intercourse with the rest to obey the injunctions of their progenitor, as these had been recorded by the first of their race. These had remained unaltered as they were written in the beginning on a tablet of orichalcum? (a now fabulous metal which abounded in that realm). On this tablet was added a great curse pronounced on those who disobeyed: and a great oath, confirmed by the blood of a bull poured over the tablet, was renewed every five years: at which time also, in solemn nocturnal conclave, they condemned those who were convicted of ruling contrary to the laws. For many generations, so long as they observed these laws, and while the heroic blood remained in them, they lived happily enough, and perceiving that virtue is ὅπ. true road even to earthly welfare, they bore up against the load of their material prosperity. But a time came when the human element prevailed and they were overcome by ambition and the pride of power. Then they seemed out- wardly most fortunate, but presented a pitiable spectacle to those who had an eye for deformity of soul. The fragment of the Critias ends with the resolve of Zeus to chasten them, but had the tale proceeded, we should have had placed before us the third companion picture, that of the misery of a state which, in the absence of a philosophic ruler, has a code of laws but is disobedient to them. ‘These three con- ditions, set forth in the Critias, correspond nearly to the forms which the Politicus recognizes as alone essential: the Republic is ignorant of the distinction between the second and third: which, again, are brought into almost exclusive prominence in the Laws. P Critias, 109 d. 4 Compare the κύρβεις of Polit. 1. ο. TO THE STATESMAN. xlix VI. Relation of the Politicus to the Leges. τ. The description of the “Royal web” in the concluding passage of this dialogue is a mere outline; yet if the sketch is anywhere finished this is not done in the Republic, but in the Laws. These both contain the idea of binding together and harmonizing the gentle and fierce elements in human nature: and the presence of this thought in the Politicus is, in so far, only a reason for grouping it with these two great works rather than with the Protagoras or any of the more Socratic dialogues, in which all virtue is simply referred to knowledge. But a more definite hypothesis is justified by a closer inspection. For, while the “divine bond” of know- ledge is a description so vague as to be equally applicable to either of the two imaginary schemes of education, the provisions respecting marriage which constitute the “ human bonds” have no counterpart in the Republic, while they are re- peated almost without modification in the Laws. They imply in fact an accommodation to the existing condition of mankind which is more in accordance with the spirit of the latter than of the former dialogue. For what need was there of uniting by mutual pledges those who never spoke of “JT” or “mine,” and who felt every grief of every member of the state with an individual sorrow? What need of qualifying opposite tendencies by intermarriage, when each individual, according to the principle on which he was selected and trained, had by nature and education the harmony of gentleness and courage within his own breast? This ideal polity is still acknowledged by the speaker in the Laws to be the one and only pattern. His object is to propound a second polity, i.e. a polity only once removed from the former, the closest imitation of the perfect government that is likely to be maintained without the presence of a succession of Divine kings. And his procedure, with the reasons for it, has several striking points of resemblance to that suggested at the con- clusion of the present dialogue. He observes that the purpose of the early legislators was not war, but peace as the reward of virtue: that in the early 2 Jo: | INTRODUCTION life of cities it became necessary to bring together the opposite qualities of gentleness and fierceness, which, during the patri- archal period, had become embodied in the traditions of the different clans. (3, 681 Ὁ, κοσμιωτέρων μὲν κοσμιώτερα, καὶ ἀνδρικῶν ἀνδρικώτερα. Cf. ib. 6g1 6, of the Spartan constitu- tion. Compare Polit. 310 6.) And in beginning his own legislation he compares the work he has to do (almost in the words of our dialogue) to a web composed of a warp and woof, of which the warp is stronger and so far better, having a certain firmness of disposition, but the woof is softer and has “a certain temperance which gives it smoothness.” (Cf. Polit. 282 e, 309 b. In the Laws the highest rule is given to the stronger element.) But there is an earlier process to be gone through before this is begun. The state must be purged of all bad elements. Plato thinks worse of human nature than when he hoped that all children under ten years old with a few exceptions would receive the print of the new laws. (Rep. 7, sub. fin.) The purgation of the flock from tainted members must precede all else. If the legislator have supreme power, human kindness need not prevent him from taking the nearest way. Otherwise he may have recourse to the more “euphemious” plan of emigration. (5, 735. Compare with this Polit. 293 d, e, 308 b—d.) Once more, in applying the ideal which annihilates indi- vidual choice to the matter of marriage, this exhortation is made to precede the law. ‘The man must choose a partner not superior to himself in wealth: and, moreover, he who is conscious of a quick and forward spirit (ἰταμώτερον ἅμα καὶ θᾶττον τοῦ δέοντος πρὸς πάσας τὰς πράξεις φερόμενον) should seek alliance with a family of gentle blood (κοσμίων πατέρων γίγνεσθαι κηδεστήν): and he of the opposite temper should take the opposite course. For each should choose that marriage, not which is most pleasant to him, but which is most expedient for the common weal. Now natural inclination carries men to mate with their likes: the result of which is to accumulate differences both of fortune and character, to the manifest harm of cities. The motive of our injunction is that the state may be like a well-attempered bowl, in which the wine sparkles with maddening heat, but is chastened. into smooth mellowness by the sober influence of a different power.” TO THE STATESMAN. li (6, 773.) It would be superfluous to draw out at length the many close resemblances between this passage and p. 310 of the Politicus. 2. The affinities of thought and doctrine, as well as of language, which we have found existing between this dialogue and the Laws, make it probable that the times of their com- position were not very far apart: and Socher’s objection, that the Politicus agrees neither with the Republic nor with earlier dialogues, is met by the hypothesis that this dialogue is inter- mediate between the Republic and the Laws. To this, how- ever, it may be again objected, that while the Politicus and its immediate predecessor, the Sophistes, are amongst the most dialectical of the whole series, the very notion of dialectic in the Platonic sense is absent from the work on which the last years of Plato’s life were spent. Nor is this peculiarity of his latest dialogue wholly to be accounted for by the nature of the subject. Although the method of the Republic is less exact than that of the Sophist or Philebus, yet the ideal theory which it contains is professedly made the groundwork of the political fabric, and Dialectic, as the science of ideas, and as the roof and crown of the sciences, which are them- selves viewed in their ideal aspect, is described as the in- dispensable completion of the education of the ruler. Nor yet will this further explanation suffice, that the Laws profess to take a lower ground and starting-point, and to provide only for what is second-best: and that hence, in the education of the νομοφύλακες, the principles of the highest method are economically withheld. For no one can read the tenth book or the latter part of the seventh book of the Laws without perceiving that here at least the law-giver is enunciating what he conceives to be the highest truths. Yet, while much is said of geometry and astronomy, and of the supremacy of mind, no hint is given, either here or in the previous reference to the Republic and the communion of goods, of any ‘“ doctrine of ideas.” Notions of astronomy and psychology, more or less definite, asserted with religious warmth, appear to have taken the place of metaphysical inquiry. The exoteric form of the discussion, implying a wish to reconcile philosophy to Greek feeling, is inseparable from the phase of thought which prompted this desire. Nw) li INTRODUCTION But while nothing is said of the ideas as objects of know- ledge, there remain frequent traces of the method of division and combination (διαίρεσις, συναγωγή) as pursued in these dia- logues. The duty of dividing according to the natural kinds is enforeed in the following, amongst other passages: 2, 658 a, μὴ ταχὺ TO τοιοῦτον κρίνωμεν, ἀλλὰ διαιροῦντες αὐτὸ κατὰ μέρη σκοπώμεθα: 6, 751 ἃ, δύο εἴδη ταῦτα περὶ πολιτείας κόσμον γιγνόμενα τυγχάνει: 7, 814 6, δύο μὲν αὐτῆς εἴδη χρὴ νομίζειν elvat.... καὶ πάλιν τοῦ φαύλου τε δύο καὶ τοῦ σπουδαίου δύο ἕτερα: 10, 895 d, ἔστι που δίχα διαιρούμενον ἐν ἄλλοις τε καὶ ἐν ἀριθμῷ: 12, 944 Ὁ, σχεδὸν οὖν ἐν τοῖς ὀνείδεσιν ἔχει τινὰ τομὴν ἣ τούτων τῶν ὀνομάτων ἐπιφορά, where the phraseology of the Sophistes is repeated. Instances of the converse process, by which things apparently diverse are brought under one conception, are 7, 824 a, the description of the various kinds of θηρευτική, which has several points of resemblance to these dialogues; 8, 841 ὁ, ἕν γένος ὄν, περιλαβὸν τὰ τρία γένη: 10, 894 b, ὡς ἐν εἴδεσι λαβεῖν : 12, 944 6, καιροὶ λύσεως νέως ἢ ζῴου τινος, ods ἐντόνους TE καὶ ὑποζώματα καὶ νεύρων ἐπιτόνους, μίαν οὖσαν φύσιν διεσπαρμένην, πολλαχοῦ πολλοῖς ὀνόμασι προσ- ayopevovow. Much also of the terminology which arose out of the definitions of these dialogues is assumed in various places of the Laws, as has been sufficiently shewn in the General Introduction. The anomaly which we are considering will appear less wonderful, if we review the course which dialectical inquiry has taken in our two dialogues. The chief result of the Sophistes was the transition from a somewhat fanciful onto- logy to a true psychology, from a transcendental to a logical conception of Being; first as the sum of positive determina- tions, then as the sum or ideal of true determinations, whether affirmative or negative. We have seen that this conception finds legitimate development in the Politicus in more complex views of knowledge and of the objects of know- ledge, which must be seen in various aspects and relations before they are fully known. The true affinities and discre- pancies of things are perceived by the higher faculty of the mind, not after a cursory glance at phenomena, but through a laborious process only made possible after long training. Science is the comprehension of these deeper resemblances TO THE STATESMAN. ΠῚ] and differences: and scientific inquiry is the interrogation of all nature in order to discover what each kind can contribute to the store of universal knowledge. The only passages which remind us of the ontological or transcendental theory of the ideas are the μετρίου φύσις in p.284, and the contrast between sensible and logical analogies in p. 286 ἃ. Now the former of these is the exact expression of the philosophy which seeks to combine the absolute with the relative, as Plato seeks to com- bine these in the Philebus; and the latter belongs to the antithesis between the things of mind and of sense, which is nowhere more strongly asserted than in the tenth book of the Laws. Even the ideal standard of τὸ μέτριον is hardly con- ceived as existing apart from production (284 d, πρὸς τὴν τοῦ μετρίου γένεσιν). Indeed, throughout the dialogue (see also Soph. 245 d) the Eleatic opposition between Being and Be- coming, and also between Knowledge and Opinion, appears to be softened, and even here and there obliterated. There is a sense, therefore, in which it may be truly said that, in these dialogues, metaphysical inquiry has been en- gaged in “getting rid of metaphysics,” 1. 6. of transcendental ontology. The idea of scientific method takes the place of the mere enthusiastic exaltation of the ideas. That method is still held to be the privilege of a mind fitted by nature and training to discern ideas; to discern them, however, not merely in themselves, but amidst the manifold complexities of the real world. Hence we need not wonder that in a dialogue later than the Politicus, the notion of an intellectual region, wholly separated from that of appearance and opinion, which stands out so prominently in the Republic, does not reappear. It is true that the chief interest in the Politicus is dialectical, in the Laws ethical and religious. But this, at all events, may be traced partly to the difference between a speculative and a practical treatise. As Plato himself says of his ideal state, φύσιν ἔχει πρᾶξιν λέξεως ἧττον ἀληθείας ἐφάπτεσθαι. There is an analogous contrast between the Phedrus and the Republic. In the infancy of the sciences, the development of a perfect method, and its application to a particular subject-matter, were achievements equally impossible. Practice and theory could not go hand in hand. As the method was necessarily immature liv INTRODUCTION (though rich in anticipative insight), so it was destined -to remain unrealized. Plato often betrays his consciousness of this. He fails to seize “waking” the form which he had pursued “in a dream.” At the same time it is not contended that the Politicus may not have been produced many years before the Leges were begun. In that last dialogue the method of inquiry which, theoretically at least, still rules in the Statesman and Sophist, has given place to what is virtually a method of exposition; and the author’s mind seems in both cases to be wholly possessed by the impulse which is dominant for the time. It is hardly credible that two such different modes of handling the same subject should have reigned simultaneously, and therefore it is best to suppose an interval. But this supposition does not weaken the force of the cumu- lative arguments by which it has been now sought to deter- mine approximately the relative position of this dialogue amongst the writings of Plato. And in the occasional abruptness and absence of connexion in the Politicus there are not wanting symptoms of the approaching loss of dialectical as well as of artistic freshness and power. VII. References to the Politicus in Aristotle. That Aristotle was acquainted with this dialogue appears from many coincidences of thought and expression. Several instances, chiefly from the Politics, will occur in the notes. (See especially, besides the passage mentioned below, Ar. Pol. I, 1, ὅσοι pév.... μικρὰν πόλιν (cf. Polit. 259 a—c): ibid., ἀγελαίου ζώου : ibid. 2 sub fin., 7 δὲ κτητικὴ . -. «- θηρευτική: ΠῚ ΠΣ Οἷον ean) τ ὁμοίως ἔχειν (cf. Polit. 298): ibid. 7, TO μὴ κατὰ γράμματα ἄρχειν, ἀλλ᾽ αὐτογνώμονας, ἐπισφαλές: III, 2, "Eore yap ἀρχὴ Seomoriy ..... διακονικὰς πράξεις (cf. Polit. 259 c—260 6, 304): ibid. 6, ἰατρὸς δ᾽... . τοῖς εἰδόσιν (cf. Polit. 259 a): ibid. 8, ὥσπερ γὰρ θεὸν ἐν ἀνθρώποις (οἴ. Polit. 303 b): ibid. 10, δοκεῖ δὴ τοῖς νομίζουσι - - - « - - ἄρχειν ἠλίθιον : IV, 12, ἀρχὰς λεκτέον ταύτας, ὅσαις ἀποδέδοται βουλεύ- σασθαι τε περί τινων καὶ κρῖναι καὶ ἐπιτάξαι, καὶ μάλιστα τοῦτο, τὸ γὰρ ἐπιτάττειν ἀρχικώτερόν ἐστιν (cf. Polit. 260a): VII, 13, εἰ TO THE STATESMAN. ly μὲν tolvuy..... ἄρχειν καὶ ἄρχεσθαι (ef. Polit. 301 4). It is true that, considering the common atmosphere of philosophical debate which surrounded both writers, these resemblances do not amount to proof; but they render it probable that Ari- stotle had read the dialogue and was familiar with some of its contents. Hence it is the more strange that in the one place in which he appears to refer directly to the Politicus, he not only omits the author’s name (this would be no new pheno- menon), but gives him the vague designation τις τῶν πρότερον, “one of those who have preceded me.” The passage occurs in the second chapter of Book IV, where the question is raised, which of the declensions (παρεκβάσεις) from the true forms of government is the least bad? and is as follows: μετριωτάτην δὲ τὴν δημοκρατίαν. ἤδη μὲν οὖν τις ἀπεφήνατο Kal τῶν πρότερον οὕτως, οὐ μὴν εἰς ταὐτὸ βλέψας ἡμῖν" ἐκεῖνος μὲν γὰρ ἔκρινε, πασῶν μὲν οὐσῶν ἐπιεικῶν, οἷον ὀλιγαρχίας τε χρηστῆς καὶ τῶν ἄλλων, χειρίστην δημοκρατίαν, φαύλων δὲ ἀρίστην. The superficial relevancy of this to Polit. 303 a, Ὁ is sufficiently obvious. We may notice, however, that, as usual with him in quoting Plato, Aristotle has forgotten the connexion. Plato condemns as strongly as Aristotle all the forms of government here mentioned. With him also it is a question not of good and bad, but of degrees of badness: τίς ---τῶν οὐκ ὀρθῶν πολι- TELOY τούτων ἥκιστα χαλεπὴ συζῆν, πασῶν χαλεπῶν οὐσῶν, καὶ τίς βαρυτάτη ;—and it may be that Aristotle’s three “right forms” would have fared no better at his hands. The word ἐπιεικῶν, which Aristotle attributes to him, is not used at all ; the nearest approach to such an expression is κοσμίων, which is explained by νομίμων, and is probably used, as μετριωτάτην is used by Aristotle, in order to avoid a word implying posi- tive excellence. For when monarchy is said to be ἀρίστη τῶν ἕξ, and democracy παρανόμων βελτίστη, this is only in the same relative sense in which Aristotle uses the words φαύλων ἀρίστην. Indeed, were Aristotle’s representation true, the two philosophers would be more nearly at accord: for demo- eracy would then be described by Plato as the least bad of three bad forms, each of which is (in this case) the declen- sion from a species of right government. This kind of inac- curacy is too common to afford any ground for the con- jecture that Aristotle is not referring to the Politicus, but Ιν] INTRODUCTION to some other writing or utterance of a previous thinker4, but it lessens the wonder which is naturally excited by the earcless vagueness of the expression ‘some one in former time.” When we consider how much more Aristotle seems to have relied on the living tradition of Plato’s school than on his writings for the opinions of Plato; how lax he is in quotation generally, attributing to Circe the words of Ulysses to his pilot, and the like; how impersonal he is; how seldom he names Plato, though often alluding to him; when we re- member that in all his writings there is no distinct reference to such a noticeable work as the Parmenides, we need hardly be surprised if, at the moment of writing these lines, he was not clearly aware which of all the previous speculators on the subject of politics had pronounced this opinion. It would be easy to indulge in further conjecture, but it is needless. The anomaly remains. The fact is singular, though not unaccount- able. But, if what has been said in these pages has any force, this would indeed be slender evidence on which to question the genuineness of the Statesman. This dialogue is fastened by too many threads of contrast, as well as of resemblance, to the place which has been now assigned it in the Platonic canon, to be dropped from thence by the mere negligence of Plato’s younger contemporary’. VIII. The “ Philosopher” dialogue. The “Statesman” contains a sketch of the real as well of the counterfeit ruler. The “ Sophist”? was mainly occupied in proving the existence of a counterfeit of the philosopher. The last and (according to the “ geometrical” proportion indicated in Polit. sub. init.) by far the greatest part of the Stranger’s q This view is, however, worth con- sidering, and is somewhat favoured by the expression tis τῶν προτέρων. In this case, Plato might be included in ἡμῖν, and Aristotle might, as in so many other instances, be merely repeat- ing a doctrine of his master’s, τ T cannot think that Ueberweg has made out the theory which he advances in connexion with this question, viz., that when in a quotation of Plato Aristotle uses the past tense he always alludes to a spoken utterance. = ee “Νὰ υ μΩ ὐτὰπν TO THE STATESMAN. Lyi task remains: viz. the definition of the true philosopher. That Plato intended to complete this series with a dialogue in which the Eleatic Stranger and Thestetus should be the interlocutors and Soerates the listener appears from the opening sentences of the “Statesman” compared with Soph. 2147 a, 231 a(?), 253 6, 254 b: although in the two last-named passages it is possible after the fact to detect a tone of hesita- tion (ἐὰν ξητῶμεν, dv ἔτι βουλομένοις ἡμῖν ἢ). No such dialogue, however, and no mention of such a dialogue is extant, and it is next to impossible that a picture of the ideal philosopher, drawn by Plato’s hand, should never have received a passing notice in all literature. But it has been supposed that although not literally fulfilled, the intention here expressed may have been carried out by Plato in a different way. It was the opinion of Schleiermacher that in the Symposium and Phedo the promised portrait of the philosopher is given to us in the person of Socrates. It is unnecessary to refute at length a supposition so gratuitous. The reader of the preceding pages will perhaps be satisfied with the remark, that even were the withdrawal of the person of Socrates of no significance, and could the artistic freshness of Plato’s literary prime be recalled at will, we cannot suppose that after writing the Sophistes, he would have returned to the phase of the ideal theory which is implied in Symp. 211 ¢, ἃ, or in Pheedo 75,100. More plausible but not less baseless is the opinion of Stallbaum, who finds the missing dialogue in the Parme- nides. If it were necessary to make the hypothesis at all, there is no dialogue which could more fitly be drawn into this group. It contains a criticism and modification of Eleatic doctrine which presents many analogies to the Sophistes, and if, as the Politicus teaches, human things are only worth studying for the sake of dialectical improvement, no better training than that given in the Parmenides could be desired. Yet this is regarded by the speaker as a preparatory exercise, and the result is negative merely. The Parmenides is de- structive in the same sense in which the Theetetus is destruc- tive. Now it is very improbable that after giving a definition of the Sophist and the Statesman with which the speakers appear satisfied, Plato would have added to these a sceptical solution of the problem, “ What is the philosopher?” Some aa ἵν] INTRODUCTION glimpses of a positive answer to this question are in fact afforded us in Soph. 230, 253-4. I am inclined to think, as has been hinted in the Introduction to the Sophist, that the most natural place for the Parmenides is between the Thestetus and the Sophistes: and, at all events, that the difficulties respecting the coexistence of the ideas with phe- nomena, of the One with the Many, probably preceded the solutions of these and cognate difficulties in the Philebus and Sophist. It may therefore be concluded that Plato’s ““ Philosopher,” like Bacon’s sixth book of his Instauratio, was never written. It is idle to conjecture what, if written, it would have con- tained. But we may be sure that a truer conception of its intended scope may be gathered from the few brief hints given in these dialogues than from the Symposium, Phedo, or Parmenides. The chief problem which these hints suggest to us is the nature of Being, conceived as the true combination and separation of ideas (Soph. 254). Plato perhaps intended to draw out at length the notion of dialectic, as he has briefly sketched this in Soph. 253 d, 259 0, 4, Polit. 285 a-c. He clearly implies that it would be necessary in order to this end to establish an idea of order or fitness (τὸ μέτριον). And other metaphysical conceptions would doubtless have emerged in the attempt to determine that, which Plato felt to have so often escaped him, a perfect method (πρὸς τὴν περὶ αὐτὸ τἀκριβὲς emiderEiv—Polit. 254 ὁ). That this endeavour would have occupied the main portion of the dialogue there can be little doubt, and perhaps as little that the arid wastes of abstract discussion would have been relieved by passages of luxuriant beauty, in which the glory of the Philosopher (now finally distinguished from the Sophist and Statesman, in whose likeness he had often appeared) would have been fully declared, and the life which surveys from on high the lives of men (Soph. 216), conversing with every creature to learn what each has to tell of wisdom (Polit. 272 ὁ), would have been stripped of all ironical disguise and revealed in true proportions to the discerning spirit. Eyen these scanty indications of the intended scope of the Philosopher perhaps betray one cause why such a dialogue was TO THE STATESMAN. lix never written. ΤῸ elaborate a perfect method of knowledge in the infancy of science was impossible, and it may be that Plato felt it to be impossible’. Nor does it seem as if in any age the mind of Plato could have found completeness or repose. The ideal of science . “is an arch, wherethro’ Gleams the untravelled world, whose margin fades For ever.” And if our hypothesis of the comparatively late origin of these dialogues is correct, the non-appearance of the Philo- sopher coincides with and renders more significant the aban- donment of metaphysical inquiry in the Laws. s “Res et suprd vires et ultr’y spes nostras collocata.”—Bacon. ΠΟΛΙΤΊΚΟΣ. TA ΤΟΥ ΔΙΑΛΟΓΟΥ͂ TIPOXOITA ΣΩΚΡΑΤΗΣ, ΘΕΌΔΩΡΟΣ, ΞΈΝΟΣ, ΣΩΚΡΑΤῊΣ O Ἢ πολλὴν χάριν ὀφείλω σοι τῆς Θεαιτήτου γνωρί- ς ΝΕΩΤΈΡΟΣ. 5, / ῳ Α fad ~ 7 σεως, ὦ Θεόδωρε, ἅμα καὶ τῆς τοῦ ξένου. ΘΕΟ. Τάχα δέ γε, ὦ Σώκρατες, ὀφειλήσεις ταύ- / » \ ’ Ν 5 ’ὔ της τριπλασίαν, ἐπειδὰν τὸν τε πολιτικὸν ἀπεργά- XN / σωνταί σοι καὶ TOV φιλοσοφον. ΣΏ. Εἴεν: οὕτω τοῦτο, ὦ φίλε Θεόδωρε, φήσομεν 3 i? 9 an Χ \ AKNKOOTES εἰναι TOU περὶ λογισμοὺς καὶ τὰ γεωμε- \ r TPLKa KPATLOTOV 5 5. Ἦ-- - ξένου] “I owe you a thousand thanks, Theodorus, both for the acquaintance I have made with Theetetus and with the Stranger,” τῆς Θεαιτή- του ἅμα καὶ τῆς τοῦ ξένου. Cf. Theet. 145 6, d, Soph. 216. γνωρίζω does not occur in Plato in the causative sense. Hence the noun probably does not mean “ your making me ac- quainted.” 4. Taxa δέ ye] “ And pre- sently you will owe me three thousand.” The argument of the Theetetus is not taken into the calculation. This helps to confirm the hypothesis that there was a considerable inter- yal between the composition of the Thezetetus and that of the Sophist. But perhaps it is only natural that the speakers should not refer immediately to the conversation of the pre- vious day. Cf. infr. 258 a. 11. ἀκηκοότες εἶναι] The more frequent use of the auxiliary verb has been already noticed as a peculiarity of Plato’s later style. * RB Only a third part of our task is done: nay, not a third, for 10 the States- man rises above the Sophist in value and the Philo- sopher above the Statesman in more than a geo- metrical ratio. ο 2 ΠΛΑΤΩΝΟΣ SEO. Πῶς, ὦ Σώκρατες ; ρου Ν AAG we pp Uae , SQ. Τῶν ἀνδρῶν ἕκαστον Ἐθέντος τῆς ἴσης ἀξίας, A a vad 7 > ) ΄ > cal Ὁ \ Ἁ οἱ τῇ τιμῇ πλέον ἰἀλληλων) ἀφεστᾶσιν ἢ κατὰ τὴν ἀναλογίαν τὴν τῆς ὑμετέρας τέχνης. 5 Ν ε / 5 / GEO. Ed ye νὴ τὸν ἡμέτερον θεὸν, ὦ Σώκρατες, Roy κ᾿ 7 ‘ ΄ \ > τὸν Ἄμμωνα, καὶ δικαίως, καὶ πάνυ μεν οὖν μνημονι-- aA 5 / ’ \ Ν \ \ ΄ / KOS ἐπέπληξάς μοι τὸ περὶ τοὺς λογισμοὺς apap- τημα. Ν \ \ » Ν / > - {2 ᾿ ‘ καὶ σὲ μὲν ἀντὶ τούτων εἰσαῦθις μέτειμι TU δ᾽ ἡμῖν, ὦ ξένε, μηδαμῶς ἀποκάμῃς χαριζόμενος, ἀλλ᾽ Can 5 Ν ἣν 2, if 3, bs ἑξῆς, €LTE TOV πολιτικὸν ἄνδρα 77 POTEPOV €lTE TOV φιλόσοφον mpoatpel, προελόμενος dieEedOe. a 5 7 EE. Ταῦτ᾽, ὦ Θεόδωρε, ποιητέον: ἐπείπερ omak 7 / Ν » 2 caeN γε ἐγκεχειρήκαμεν, οὐκ ἀποστατέον πρὶν ἂν αὐτῶν 2. Τῶν ἀνδρῶν] Cf. Soph. 221 d: ἠγνοήκαμεν τἀνδρὸς τὸν ἄνδρα ὄντα ξυγγενῆ. The ideal Sophist, Statesman, Philoso- pher, are treated with fami- larity, as persons with whom a transaction is being held. 2. *6évros*} All the MSS. have θέντες, but the correction of Heindorf is unquestionably right. The corruption is pro- bably due to ἀκηκοότες preced- ing. Note the variety of expres- sion in ἀξίας ----τιμῇ. 3. πλέον --- ἀφεστᾶσιν] Cf. Legg. 4, 722 Ὁ: οὐ διπλῷ θά- τερα τῶν ἑτέρων διάφορα μόνον εἰς ἀρετὴν τῆς χρείας. ἀλλήλων om. Bodl. AT. 4. τὴν τῆς ὑμετέρας τέχνης] Se. τὴν γεωμετρικήν. 5. τὸν ἡμέτερον θεὸν ---τὸν Ax. | The reader is thus reminded that Theodorus is from Cy- rene. 6. καὶ πάνυ μὲν οὖν μνημονι- kos] “ And most certainly with praiseworthy recollection.” Theodorus commends Socrates as his pupil for remembering the principle of geometrical proportion. 8. καὶ σὲ μὲν] “ Well, I must seek some other opportunity for my revenge.” 9. χαριζόμενος] The word re- cals the politeness of the first interview, Soph. 217 ¢: τήν ye πρώτην αἰτησάντων χάριν. Ib. ἃ: τὸ δ᾽ αὖ σοὶ μὴ χαρίζεσθαι καὶ τοῖσδε. ἀλλ᾽ ἑξῆς, εἴτε] For the in- terruption of the sentence with etre, οἵ, Theeet. 156 6 : λευκὸν, εἴτε ξύλον, εἴτε λίθος κ.τ.λ. 12. ποιητέον---ἀποστατέον] For the apposition, οἵ. Protag. 348 ὃ: τοὺς τοιούτους μοι δοκεῖ χρῆναι μιμεῖσθαι ἐμέ τε καὶ σέ, καταθεμέ- νους τοὺς ποιητὰς αὐτοὺς δι᾿ ἡμῶν αὐτῶν τοὺς λόγους ποιεῖσθαι. The inferior MSS. insert καὶ before οὐκ, probably from conjecture. 13. αὐτῶν] “ The matters in hand.” Compare the frequent 57: ΠΟΛΙΤΙΚΟΣ. 9 πρὸς τὸ τέλος ἔλθωμεν. τοῦδε τί χρὴ δρᾶν με; ΘΕΟ. Τοῦ πέρι ; ἀλλὰ γὰρ περὶ Θεαιτήτου — , δὶ 7 ’ A SE. Διαναπαύσωμεν αὐτὸν μεταλαβόντες αὐτοῦ Ν Χ / / Ἃ la Tov συγγυμναστὴν Tovde Σωκράτη ; ἢ πῶς συμβου- 5 / Aevels 5 GEO. Καθάπερ εἶπες, μεταλάμβανε: / \ veo yap 7 en } / 7 > , OVTE poov οἷσ ετὸν TAVTA TOVOY AVATTAVOMEV®. LQ. Kat μὴν κινδυνεύετον, ὦ ξένε, ἄμφω ποθὲν > Ν , a4 , EOL ξυγγένειαν εἐχέιν τινα. It is time that The- zetetus should be relieved : and his compa- nion, the younger Socrates, who has hitherto TOV μέν YE οὖν ὑμεῖς 10 been a \ \ a 7 , κατὰ THY τοῦ προσώπου φύσιν ὅμοιον ἐμοὶ φαίνεσθαί an « Lal e ἴω «ες , 3 e φατε, τοῦ δ᾽ ἡμῖν ἡ κλῆσις ὁμώνυμος οὖσα καὶ ἡ a 7ὔ / /, . πρόσρησις παρέχεταί τινα οἰκειότητα. δεῖ δὴ τούς γε ξυγγενεῖς ἡμᾶς ἀεὶ προθύμως διὰ λόγων ἀναγνω- use of αὐτὰ without a distinct antecedent in Thucydides. 4. Διαναπαύσωμεν αὐτὸν] “Shall we relieve him for awhile, by taking his comrade Socrates here instead?” Either Thex- tetus was to be the respondent in the “ Philosophus,” which is probable enough, or δια here receives something of the mean- ing which it has in διαδέχομαι, “in turn.” 5. συγγυμναστὴν] Theeet. 144 6: ἄν δ᾽ ἄρα τι τοιοῦτον γένηται (sc. τῷ μήκει πονῶν ἄχθωμαι) καὶ τόνδε παραληψόμεθα Σωκράτη, τὸν Σωκράτους μὲν ὁμώνυμον, ἐμὸν δὲ ἡλικιωτὴν καὶ συγγυμναστήν, ᾧ συνδιαπονεῖν μετ᾽ ἐμοῦ τὰ πολλὰ οὐκ ἀήθες. The word here, like πάντα πόνον below, implies men- tal as well as bodily labour. Cf. Rep. 6, 498 | Ὁ : προϊούσης δὲ τῆς ἡλικίας ἐν ἡ ἡ ψυχὴ τελει- οὔσθαι ἃ ἄρχεται, ἐπιτείνειν τὰ ἐκεί- νῆς γυμνάσια. * BR 7. νέω yap ὄντε] We per- ceive in Theodorus something of the consciousness of the contrast between youth and age, which appears also in the Eleate and in the Athenian Stranger in the Laws. Cf. Theeet. 146 b, 162 b. 9. ποθὲν] “ From some cause or other,” “in some respect.” Το. τὸν μέν ye — οἰκειότητα] There is a sort of humour in the conscious technicality of the language, (φύσιν----φαίνεσθαι ---κλῆσις---ὁμώνυμος ---πρόσρησις —oixeidrnra,)which also reminds us that we are engaged in dia- lectic. 11. ὅμοιον ἐμοὶ] ΤΊ Θεοῦ. 143 6. 12. ἡμῖν) The plural gives a more courteous turn to the expression. The dative, al- though governed by ὁμώνυμο----- οἰκειότητα, has something of an ethical force. Cf. Soph. 216 e. 4. διὰ λόγων] “ By means of 9 ~ silent lis- tener, is now encou- raged by his elder namesake to converse with the Stranger. The latter at once re- sumes the leadership of the dis- cussion,and prescribes the States- man rather than the Philoso- pher for the next subject of definition,‘ The States- man, also, like the Sophist, is aman of art, and the arts and sciences must be again di- vided. + MAATOQNOZ picew. \ / Ν cal ae. / , διὰ λόγων καὶ νῦν ἀκήκοα ἀποκριναμένου, Σωκράτους δὲ οὐδέτερα" δεῖ δὲ σκέψασθαι καὶ τοῦτον. > Ν \ ἐμοὶ [LEV 5, 3 —) \ \ a ’ / οὖν εἰσαῦθις, σοὶ δὲ νῦν ἀποκρινέσθω. SE. Ταῦτ᾽ ἐσται. 7 Σωκράτους ; ΝΕΟΣ ΣΏΩ. Nai. Ὦ Σώκρατες, ἀκούεις δὴ EE. Συγχωρεῖς οὖν οἷς λέγει ; NE. ΣΏ. Πάνυ μὲν οὖν. ΞΕ, Οὐ τὰ σὰ κωλύειν φαίνεται, δεῖ δὲ ἴσως ἔτι Ὁ STEN , ἥττον Tapa διακωλύειν. ἀλλὰ δὴ μετὰ τὸν σοφι- \ 3 “ ε 3 Ν 7 Χ Xr Ν στὴν ἀναγκαῖον, ὡς ἐμοὶ φαίνεται, Tov πολιτικὸν ἄνδρα διαζητεῖν νῷν. / / y lal Kai μοι λέγε, πότερον τῶν / SC XV las , x lad ETLOTHMOVOY TW ἡμῖν καὶ τοῦτον θετέον, ἢ πῶς ; NE. ΣΏ. Οὕτως. N a EE. Tas ἐπιστήμας apa διαληπτέον, ὥσπερ ἡνίκα \ a > a TOV 7 POTEPOV EDKOTTOVHEV : NE. ΣΩ. Τάχ ἄν. \ Ν \ [4 3 / HE. Ov μὲν δὴ κατὰ ταὐτὸν ye, ὦ Σώκρατες, : / / an 20 φαίνεται μοι τμῆμα. argument,” i.e. as to their men- tal qualities. Cf. Thezet. 145. Socrates here shews the same urbanity as in the opening of the Theztetus and Sophist. Compare with the structure of the sentence and the introduc- tion of the minor premiss with δή (δεῖ 67) Theet. 143 d: ool δὴ οὐκ ὀλίγιστοι πλησιάζουσι---- εἰ δὴ οὖν----δδέως ἂν πυθοίμην. And for ye, resuming what has been already said, cf. infr. 260 ¢, δεσπόζοντά γε. 12. τὸν πολιτικὸν] Bodl. A, pr. II, πολιτικὸν τὸν. This illustrates a frequent source of corrup- tion in MSS., the inversion of the order of words. 14. The requirement that the king shall be ἐπιστήμων τινὸς, the possessor of ἃ perfect science, is upheld throughout the dialogue, and hence the definition of the king excludes all the actual rulers of existing communities. The question in the text is asked not without ironical allusion to this “ crowd of satyrs and centaurs” (infr. 303 6), whose art, like that of the Sophist, proves to be a mere sham. καὶ τοῦτον͵] “As well as Θ ; ἐν οὖν αὐτός Te συνέμιξα χθὲς : εαἰτήτῳ μὲν οὖν αὐτός μιξα χθὲς p. 25 MOAITIKO®. 5 NE. cA DE NE. cH OF SO. Tan: Kar’ ἄλλο. ΣΏΩ. "Eoue ye. , lol \ > ‘ > a Ν Ν » / pyoe; δεῖ yap αὐτὴν ἀνευρεῖν, καὶ χωρὶς ἀφελοντας 5 \ 53 \ ’ \ ip. 3 Thv οὖν πολιτικὴν ἀτραπὸν πῇ τις avev- > a 50 7 ° » ἀπὸ τῶν ἄλλων ἰδέαν αὐτῇ μίαν ἐπισφραγίσασθαι, a x oN JA 5 ᾽ καὶ ταῖς ἄλλαις ἐκτροπαῖς ἐν ἄλλο Eidos ἐπισημηνα- / , \ ᾽ / ¢e 5 / / μένους πάσας τὰς ἐπιστήμας ὡς οὔσας δύο εἴδη δια- νοηθῆναι τὴν ψυχὴν ἡμῶν ποιῆσαι. NE. ΣΏ. Τοῦτ᾽ ἤδη σόν, οἶμαι, τὸ ἔργον, ὦ ξένε, 3 ᾽ » > Ἂς / aAA οὐκ ἐμὸν γίγνεται. - ᾽ Ky / > Ns 5 ΄ mE. Δεῖ γε μὴν, ὦ Σώκρατες, αὐτὸ εἶναι καὶ σον, σ » \ Gay ͵7ὔ ὅταν ἐμῴφανες ἡμῖν γένηται. the angler (Soph. 210 a) and the Sophist (Ib. 221 ¢).” 1. Ti μὴν] “What then?” This less frequent signification of τί μὴν probably contains the explanation of the general use to signify assent. “ What else ?” =“surely.” Cf. Parm. 139 d: Ὅτε οὐκ ἐπειδὰν ταὐτὸν γένηταί τῷ τι, ἕν γίγνεται. ᾿Αλλὰ τί μήν; κιτιλ. Theet. 142 a: ποῦ μήν; 4. ἀτραπὸν͵]) The Stranger recurs to the metaphor which he employed in Soph. 222 a. This appears clearly from the word exrporais, which recals ἐκ- τρέπεσθον (1. 5.) Compare Pheedo 65 b: Κινδυνεύει τοι ὥσπερ ἀτραπός τις ἡμᾶς ἐκφέρειν ἐν τῇ σκέψει, ὅτι κιτιλ. The art is identified with the method of finding the art. ἡ. ταῖς ἄλλαις ἐκτροπαῖς --- ποιῆσαι) This is an applica- tion of the lesson learnt in the previous dialogue, that for every positive conception there is a corresponding negative expression not signifying the opposite, but including all that is other than the positive no- tion. See esp. Soph. 257 6: ἄλλο τι τῶν ὄντων τινὸς γένους ἀφορισθὲν καὶ πρός τι τῶν ὄντων πάλιν ἀντιτεθὲν οὕτω συμβαίνει εἶναί τι τὸ μὴ καλόν; The mind is here viewed as giving her impress to objects, and not as receiving impressions from them (contrast with this the image of the waxen block in the Thezetetus). Similar lan- guage occurs in Phedo 75 d: περὶ ἁπάντων οἷς ἐπισφραγιζό- μεθα τοῦτο ὃ ἔστιν. Cf. also Soph. 253 d. 8. ὡς οὔσας δύο εἴδη] As constituting two classes or kinds. 12. καὶ σὸν] I.e. You must make the distinction your own, go through the process for yourself. In his more systematic dialogues Plato still insists on the importance of the learner’s following every step of an inquiry. By what path, then, does the Statesman diverge from the beaten way of know- ledge in general ? It is the duty alike IO of ques- tioner and respondent to deter- mine this, while part- ing off all other by- ways, and stamping them with a single negative form. The theory of numbers is an e€x- ample of a 5 class of sciences, in which knowledge is wholly separable from ac- tion. Whereas in carpentry and other handi- crafts, knowledge is bound up with 6 MAATOQNOZ NE. >Q. Καλῶς εἶπες. =H. a) " 5 > - > 6 \ \ ld - p οὖν οὐκ ἀριθμητικὴ μεν Kal τινες ἐτεραι , ω / Ν “ ΄ / > ἈΝ TQUT)) OVYYEVELS τέχναι ψιλαὶ TOV πράξεών εἰσι, TO \ “ / / δὲ γνῶναι παρέσχοντο μόνον ; NE. ΣΩ. Ἔστιν οὕτως. =E Ai δέ Ν Χ 3 Ν , pj Le l O€ γε Ζέερι TEKTOVLKHY αὖ Και συμπασαν d rn / A yf χειρουργίαν WOOTTEP ἐν ταις πράξεσιν ἐνοῦσαν συμφυ- Ν 3 [4 / “ Ν TOV τὴν ἐπιστήμην κέκτηνται, καὶ συναποτελοῦσι τὰ / « > 3 a / / > + γίγνομενᾶ UIT αὐτῶν σωμᾶτα, προτέρον οὐκ οντα. NE. ΣΩ. Ti phy; = Eh ΠῚ , 7 , 5 [4 ὃ / μι 1. QUT) τοινυν συμπασας ETLOTH MAS LALPEL, \ \ \ / Χ \ / THY μὲν πρακτικὴν προσειπῶν, THY δὲ μόνον γνω- / στικην. 2. ἀριθμητικὴ μὲν --- μόνον] This in modern language is the distinction between science and art. Cf. Phileb. 56, 57. 3. ψιλαὶ τῶν πράξεων] “ Dis- engaged from practice,” i. e. abstract. The same word is used, infr. 299 e, to distinguish “pure arithmetic” from geo- metry and astronomy. ἀριθμη- τικὴ (the theory of numbers, not arithmetic in the medern sense, which more nearly an- swers to λογιστικὴ,) is always spoken of by Greek philosophers as the most abstract of the ma- thematical sciences. EH. g. Ar. Met. 1. 2: ai ἐξ ἐλαττόνων----τῶν ἐκ προσθέσεως, ὥσπερ ἀριθμητικὴ γεωμετρίας. Again, in Theet. 165 a Dialectics are opposed, as Ψιλοὶ λόγοι, “mere abstrac- tion,’ to mathematics gene- rally. 4. παρέσχοντο] For this ‘poetical’ use of the aorist, ef. Theset. 156 d: ἐγένετο ---- περιεπλήσθη, and note. 6. At δέ γε----κέκτηνται] “ But in the case of carpentry and the sister arts, and of every handicraft, the knowledge is as it were merged or inherent in the operations; and they assist in perfecting the struc- tures which result from them.” Note the expression ai (τέχναι) ἐπιστήμην κέκτηνται. By a fu- sion of abstract and concrete common in these dialogues, the attributes of the artist are attached to the art. Cf. Phileb. 44 6: εἰ τὸ BovAnua— βούλεται. 8. συναποτελοῦσι)] Se. σὺν ταῖς πράξεσιν. ὑπ᾽ αὐτῶν, SC. τῶν πράξεων. 9. γιγνόμενα --- πρότερον οὐκ ὄντα! Whereas the objects of the abstract sciences are never produced, but exist always. 12. τὴν μὲν] Se. ἐπιστήμην, 1. 86. τῶν ἐπιστημῶν εἶδος. This helps the transition to the singular ἐπιστήμης in what fol- lows. 259. MOAITIKOS. 7 NE. ΣΩ. “Eorw σοι ταῦθ᾽ ὡς μιᾶς ἐπιστήμης τῆς ὅλης εἴδη δύο. μα , > \ ΄ SE. Πότερον οὖν τὸν πολιτικὸν καὶ βασιλέα καὶ , ν wv? / / « A ΄ δεσπότην καὶ eT οἰκονόμον θήσομεν ὡς ἕν πάντα A / x / ᾽ὔὕ Sa “ἃ ταῦυτα 7 POD AYOPEVOVTES, ἢ τοσαῦτας τέχνας QUTGAS 5 εἶναι φῶμεν, ὅσαπερ ὀνόματα ἐρρήθη; Μᾶλλον δέ cal ied μοι δεῦρο ἐπου. NE. ΣΩ. πῇ; μ-- “ ΕΣ / A , , ΄ EE. Tyde. εἴ τῷ τις τῶν δημοσιευοντων ἰατρῶν « \ ΄ > / 5. ἘῚ CP 5 > 5» ἱκανὸς ξυμβουλεύειν ἰδιωτεύων αὐτός, ap οὐκ ἀνα- τὸ a > lal [é 3, ων 4 γκαῖον αὐτῷ προσαγορεύεσθαι τοὔνομα τῆς τέχνης ON “ ὩΣ , ταῦτον ὅπερ ᾧ συμβουλεύει ; ΣΟ Nai. ane Ti δ᾽: 3. Πύτερον οὖν x.7.d.] This question is closely connected with the one in hand If government is an _ abstract science, then the conditions under which it is exercised and the number of the persons to be governed cannot alter the principles of government : and, conversely, if the prin- ciples are thus altered, it is not an abstract science. 4. καὶ ἔτ᾽ οἰκονόμον] ἔτι marks that this is an extreme step. θήσομεν --- προσαγορεύοντες | The participle, although re- quired to balance the clause after the introduction of πάντα ταῦτα, is redundant, as in ἔφη λέγων. ἕν πάντα ταῦτα!ὐ Cf. Phileb. 25 d, 4110. 6. Μᾶλλον δέ μοι δεῦρο ἕπου] This is a natural touch. The Stranger feels that the ques- o , , > N ὅστις βασιλεύοντι χώρας ἀνδρὶ πα- tion has been put too ab- strusely for his young re- spondent. 9. δημοσιευόντων] “ Practis- ing physicians.” The δημιο- epyés is opposed to the ἰδιωτής (ot δημιοεργοὶ ἔασιν, μάντιν ἢ ἰητῆρα κακῶν). Cf. Ar. Pol. II. 6: Ἰατρὸς δ᾽ ὅτε δημιουργὸς καὶ 6 ἀρχιτεκτονικὸς καὶ τρίτος 6 πε- παιδευμένος περὶ τὴν τέχνην. 10. ἄρ᾽ οὐκ] “Is it not in- evitable that he should have the same professional designa- tion with the man whom he advises?” τοὔνομα τῆς τέχνης (cogn. accus. after προσαγορεύ- εσθαι) is added for the sake of ereater precision. It appears from the Gorgias, p. 455 b, compared with Xen. Mem. IV. 2,5, that certain public medi- cal officers were appointed by the ecclesia of Athens. Stall- baum thinks that these are meant by the δημοσιεύοντες and imme diately as sists pro- duction. Science, then, is either prac- tical or theoretical. To which branch does the Statesman belong ? Or, let us first ask, Are States- man, King, Master, House- holder, the same or different in respect of science ? One who is competent to advise a physician deserves the name of Physician, whether he practises or not. So one who can advise a king, though he may hold a private station, is a king in knowledge. Hence the Statesman is a king. 8 ITAATQNOS a ἈΝ > / Δ > / 9 2 3 / »“ ραινεῖν δεινὸς ἰδιώτης ὧν αὐτός, ap οὗ φήσομεν ἔχειν Pp. 2 , \ \ > / a Wi Ν + > Ν αὐτὸν τὴν ἐπιστήμην ἣν ἐδει τὸν ἄρχοντα αὐτὸν κεκ- τῆσθαι ; ΝΕ. ΣΩ. Φήσομεν. RE. ᾿Αλλὰ μὴν ἣ γε ἀληθινοῦ βασιλέως βασι- λική: NE. 30. Nai. ἘΠῚ ἽΝ / δὲ e 4 ᾽ 3) ay y+ μι. αὐτὴν O€ O ΚεΚΤΉμενος OUK, AV TE AaPX@Ov αν > ΄ EY ΄ ΄, U4 \ / T ἰδιώτης ὧν τυγχάνῃ, πάντως κατὰ γε THY τέχνην ιοαὐτὴν βασιλικὸς ὀρθῶς προσρηθήσεται ; NE. ΣΏ. Δίκαιον γοῦν. πὴ ἢ Κ Q ἈΝ ’ y A ὃ , DS ROS, pe Se αι μὴν OLKOVOLOS YE Καὶ OEOTIOTYNS TAUTOV. NE. ΣΩ. Ti μήν; EE. Ti δέ; μεγάλης σχῆμα οἰκήσεως ἢ σμικρᾶς ἰατροί, but it seems more probable that the distinction meant here and in Gorg. 514 d is simply that between one who practises and one who does not practise as a phy- sician — the professional and the amateur. This is quite sufficient for the requirements of the argument. For the form of expression, cf. Gorg. 474 ¢: τί δὲ δὴ αἴσχιον 3 πότερον K.T.A. 5. Hye] Se. ἐπιστήμη. 8. Ταύτην δὲ ὁ κεκτημένος] Note the emphatic position of ταύτην. 9. τυγχάνῃ is emphatic: “Whether it be his fortune to rule or to enjoy a private sta- tion.” κατά γε τὴν τέχνην αὐτὴν] Compare the distinction in Republic B. I, between the ruler so-called, and the essen- tial ruler: esp. 1, 345 6. 5 , + A \ » \ 7, τε αὖ πόλεως ὄγκος μῶν τι πρὸς ἀρχὴν διοίσετον ; 10. βασιλικός] “ Fit for so- vereignty,” whether actually sovereign or not. 14. μεγάλης ---διοίσετον] The Politics of Aristotle (I. 1.) open with a criticism of this saying, in which it may be observed that the limitation expressed in the words πρὸς ἀρχὴν is, overlooked. The difference of view, however, is real and characteristic. As in defining the Good in the Republic; Plato refers all to a single principle, while Aristotle holds that the idea of Good is dif- erent in different things; so in the present case, while Plato asserts that the idea of Go- vernment must be the same in the case of a house and a city, Aristotle contends that a house is essentially different from a city, because composed of different elements (the in- — ) ΠΟΛΙΓΙΚΟΣ. 9 NE. ΣΏ. Οὐδέν. EE. Οὐκοῦν, ὃ νῦν δὴ διεσκοπούμεθα, φανερὸν ὡς 3 / ΄ 3. ΝᾺ ca) / \ 7 ἐπιστήμη μία περὶ πάντ᾽ ἐστὶ ταῦτα. ταύτην δὲ εἶτε Ν ΕΣ \ 7 > , ᾽ βασιλικὴν εἴτε πολιτικὴν εἴτε οἰκονομικὴν TLS ὀνο- μάζει, μηδὲν αὐτῷ διαφερώμεθα. NE. ΣΩ. Τί γάρ; mE. ᾿Αλλὰ μὴν τόδε γε δῆλον, ὡς βασιλεὺς ἅπας \ Ν / lal 72 , ’ ay, > \ χέρσι και ξύμπαντι T@ σωμαᾶτι σμικρ ATTA εἰς TO / XN > Ν / Ν \ lal a κατέχειν τὴν ἀρχὴν δύναται πρὸς THY τῆς Ψυχῆς / C4 σύνεσιν καὶ ῥώμην. NE. 30. Δῆλον. BE. Τῆς δὴ γνωστικῆς μᾶλλον ἢ τῆς χειροτεχνι- lal Υ, cat Χ ΄σ κῆς καὶ ὅλως πρακτικῆς βούλει τὸν βασιλέα φῶμεν y Ὁ οἰκειότερον εἶναι ; dividual being the unit of the family, and the family of the state), and hence the science of the management of each must be different also. They may be compared analogically, but must be carefully distinguished. The point is illustrative of the difference between the Plato- nic and the Aristotelian οὐσία, —the former tending towards an abstract unity, the latter towards concrete definiteness and reality. Cf. Ar. Pol. ITI. 9. The Platonic view had a germ in Socrates. See Xen. Mem. III. 4, 12: ἡ yap τῶν ἰδίων ἐπιμέλεια πλήθει μόνον δια- φέρει τῆς τῶν κοίνων. Cf. Lege. 3, 681: μεγάλην ἀποτελοῦντες. Ib. 1, 626 6, 690 a; [Erast. 138 ὁ ;] Meno 73a; Rep. 9, 578 d. (14.) σχῆμα] The word sug- gests the imposing appearance of a stately mansion. Cf. , Ly μίαν οἰκίαν κοίνην καὶ Eurip. Ale. 911 (of the palace of Admetus): ὦ σχῆμα δόμων, πῶς εἰσέλθω ; (15.) πόλεως ὄγκος] So, with a different shade of meaning, Rep. 2, 373 Ὁ: (ἡ πόλις) ὄγκου ἐμπληστέα καὶ πλήθους. 2. ὃ νῦν δὴ διεσκοπούμεθα]) δὴ is omitted in one MS., Ven. =, and & in another, Par. F. 6. Ti γάρ: “ Why should we ?” . ὡς βασιλεὺς amas] Cf. Ar. Pol. VII. 3: ταύτην δὲ τὴν περὶ τἀναγκαῖα λεγόμενα ποιεῖν ἐπίστασθαι τὸν ἄρχοντα οὐκ ἀν- αγκαῖον, ἀλλὰ χρῆσθαι μᾶλλον" θάτερον δὲ καὶ ἀνδραποδῶδες. 12. μᾶλλον---οἰκειότερον͵] Cf. Rep. 1, 331 ¢: ἕν ἀνθ᾽ ἑνὸς οὐκ ἐλάχιστον ἔγωγε τοῦτο πλοῦτον χρησιμωτάτην εἶναι —where the measure of compa- rison is at some distance from the adjective, as here. x» > αν εις θείην ἐς ee I ° And he who rules his own house well has the same art of govern- ment which the States- man has. Therefore these forms of art or science differ only in name. And it is clear, at all events, that the royal function is a work of mind, Kingeraft, or State- craft, then, is a theo- retical science, 10 ΠΛΑΤΏΝΟΣ NE. ΣΟ Τὴν: \ 2 \ ‘ SE. "Τὴν ἄρα πολιτικὴν καὶ πολιτικὸν καὶ βασι- \ \ > Ν « A ΄ cal λικὴν καὶ βασιλικὸν εἰς ταὐτὸν ὡς EV πάντα ταῦτα la ξυνθήσομεν ; 5 ΝΕ. &Q. δῆλον. Now =E. Οὐκοῦν πορευοίμεθ᾽ ἂν ἑξῆς, εἰ μετὰ ταῦτα theoretical ᾿ rae ais P ; ip oT, ᾿ scienceis τὴν γνωστικὴν διοριζοιμεθα : not one Leif ] »; P ( ᾿ ἷ entire and NE. 2Q. ITavu ye. perfect — / \ \ “- Ἃ yy > ΒΤ," \ chrysolite, mE. ΤΙρόσεχε δὴ τὸν νοῦν, ἂν apa ἐν αὑτῇ τινὰ but divides < Σ into Οὐ] τὸ διαφυὴν κατανοήσωμεν. cal an Command- NE. 20. Φραζε ποίαν. ine. , , la 53 / 3 HE. Τοιάνδε. λογιστική πού τις ἡμῖν ἦν τέχνη. ΝΕ. ΣΩ. Ναί. EE. Té 3 i bey ae QV γνωστικῶν YE, OlUAl, TAVTATAGL TE- 15 χνῶν. 2. Τὴν ἄρα---ξυνθήσομεν] Be- logical distinctions. Cf. Soph. cause kingcraft depends en- 229 Ὁ, τομὴν: ib. 268 6, δι- tirely on knowledge (supra πλοήν. The present image cor- 6, ἀλλὰ μὴν — ῥώμην), and, responds with the language of in point of the knowledge Phedr. 265 e: τέμνειν --- κατ᾽ required, these arts have been ἄρθρα «.r.X. See also ibid. shewn to be the same, supra 268 a: εἰ καὶ σοὶ φαίνεται διε- a,b. There is a slight inex- στηκὸς αὐτῶν τὸ nrpiov, ὥσπερ actness in πάντα ταῦτα being ἐμοί. Most MSS. have δια- used for two things (πολι- φυγήν. τικὴ and βασιλική). This 15 12. ἦν] The past tense perhaps due to the same implies no reference to any phrase having occurred above, former passage, but is only where more than two arts the common form of allu- were enumerated, p. 258 e. sion to a familiar fact. λο- 10. διαφυὴν] “Any natural γιστικὴ is instanced instead of parting or cleft.’ The word ἀριθμητικὴ for the sake of va- is used literally in Phedo 98 ὁ riety. The distinction here for the ligaments between the introduced by Plato is applied bones of the human body: τὰ in Ar. Eth. VI. το, ὃ 2, where ὀστᾶ ἔχει διαφυὰς χωρὶς ἀπ᾿ ἀλλη- wisdom is distinguished from λων. Every conceivable image intelligence: 7 μὲν γὰρ φρό- is employed to express the νησις ἐπιτακτική ἐστιν, ἡ δὲ σύν- “lines and veins” of naturé, εσις κριτικὴ μόνον. which are the ground of true Ρ. 259 e€ 259. | 260. IIOAITIKOS. NE, >Q. [lds δ᾽ ov; / a \ > cal ᾽ “ SE. Τνούσῃ δὲ λογιστικῇ τὴν ἐν τοῖς ἀριθμοῖς 11 διαφορὰν μῶν τι πλέον ἔργον δώσομεν ἢ τὰ γνω- σθέντα κρῖναι ; NE. 2Q. Τί μήν ; EE. Καὶ γὰρ ἀρχιτέκτων γε πᾶς οὐκ αὐτὸς ἐργα- τικός, ἀλλὰ ἐργατῶν ἄρχων. NE. ΣΩ. Nai. EE. Παρεχόμενός γέ που γνῶσιν, ἀλλ᾽ ov χει- ρουργίαν. NE. 2Q. Οὕτως. HE. Δικαίως δὴ μετέχειν ἂν λέγοιτο τῆς γνωστι- κῆς ἐπιστήμης. NE. ΣΏ. Πάνυ γε. HE. Τούτῳ δέ γε, οἶμαι, προσήκει κρίναντι μὴ τέλος ἔχειν μηδ᾽ ἀπηλλάχθαι, καθάπερ ὁ λογιστὴς ἀπήλλακτο, προστάττειν δὲ ἑκάστοις τῶν ἐργατῶν τό γε πρύσφορον, ἕως ἂν ἀπεργάσωνται τὸ προ- σταχθέν. 2. Τνούσῃ δὲ λογιστικῇ]} “ But when arithmetic has discerned the differences amongst num- bers, shall we give her any further office than to judge of that which she has discerned ?”’ Ans. “ How should we?” (ri μήν 5) 6. Kal yap ἀρχιτέκτων ye πᾶς kK.T.A.] τί μήν expresses surprise that the question should have been asked. An example which justifies the question is, there- fore, introduced with γάρ. “ T asked because there are branches of theoretical know- ledge which do not end in classing the master-carpenter under γνωστική, when carpen- try has been placed amongst the practical sciences. But this helps to shew that the “commanding sciences,” al- though independent of prac- tice, yet have an immediate relation to the practical. 18. τό ye πρόσφορον] He is not wholly engaged in directing his workmen, nor does he im- part all his knowledge to each of them, but he must direct each in so far as is required for the particular work ap- pointed them. This limitation theory.” There may seem δῦ is expressed by ye. first sight to be a confusion in ΤῸΝ Io Arith- metic, for instance, is purely cri- tical: the Master Builder, on the other hand, while his busi- ness is theory and not prac- tice, must superin- tend the application of his theory. 12 MAATOQNO® NE. 2Q. ᾿Ορθώς. — > a Ἀ \ “ lal / =E. Οὐκοῦν γνωστικαὶ μὲν αἵ τε τοιαῦται ξύμ- Nee τ , a a , πασαι καὶ ὁπόσαι ξυνέπονται τῇ λογιστικῇ, κρίσει \ Ν ΄ 7 > 7, J \ δὲ Kal ἐπιτάξει διαφέρετον ἀλλήλοιν τούτω τῷ 7 5 VEVEE ; / NE. SQ. Φαίνεσθον. =E. Ap οὗ 4 ἢ ns εἰ τὸ μὲν HE. “Ap οὖν συμπάσης τῆς γνωστικῆς εἰ μ ἊΝ 7 ΝΥ \ ἊΝ / ἐπιτακτικὸν μέρος, TO δὲ κριτικὸν διαιρούμενοι προ- / 5 an “Δ. rn qn σείποιμεν, ἐμμελῶς av φαῖμεν διῃρῆσθαι ; ιο NE. 2Q. Κατά γε τὴν ἐμὴν δόξαν. τος τς EE. ᾿Αλλὰ μὴν τοῖς γε κοινῇ τι πράττουσιν ἀγα- inction aN: 2 being ad- πῆτον ομονοειν. mitted, it τῇ pe sae is easy to NE. 2Q. [los ὃ OU 5 see that ee , ᾿ , ἊΝ oD the King =H. Tovrov τοίνυν μέχριπερ ἂν αὐτοὶ κοινω- 15 ποῦ ἃ mere spec- 15 νῶμεν, tator of the > f? f €aTEOV TA YE TOV ἄλλων δοξάσματα / life of the χαιρειν. city, but ΔΝ that his NE, 20. Te pov; science, a Om Ν while theo- HE. Φέρε On, ταύταιν ταῖν τέχναιν ἡμῖν τὸν Ba- retical, is also com- manding.§ XN 3 7, 7 yo 9 fa lod »» σιλικὸν ἐν ποτέρᾳ θετέον ; ap ἐν τῇ κριτικῇ, καθα- 5. yevee] The open form is probably retained to distin- guish the dual from the plural γένη. 4. τὸ μὲν ἐπιτακτικὸν μέρος, τὸ δὲ κριτικόν] Ar. Pol. IV. 12: Μάλιστα δὲ, ὡς ἁπλῶς εἰπεῖν, ἀρχὰς λεκτέον ταύτας, ὅσοις ἀπο- δέδοται βουλεύσασθαί τε περὶ τι- νῶν καὶ κρῖναι καὶ ἐπιτάξαι" καὶ μάλιστα τοῦτο, τὸ γὰρ ἐπιτάττειν ἀρχικώτερόν ἐστιν. Ib. VII. 5: ἄρχοντος δ᾽ ἐπίταξις καὶ κρίσις ἐστίν. II. Ἀλλὰ μὴν---καίρειν] The maxim is appropriately bor- rowed from political science (for ὁμόνοια is πολιτικὴ φιλία) in order to assert the indepen- dence of the dialectical reason. The same thing is meant as in Gorgias 472 b, Protag. 331 ¢, 348 a. 19. καθάπερ τινὰ θεατήν] Plato recurs to the image of the theatre, which he employed in Theeet. 173 ¢: οὐδὲ θεατὴς, ὥσ- περ ποιηταῖς. The notion οἵ ἐπιτακτικὴ may be compared with Kant’s imperative of the reason: an ideal which has immediate re- ference to life. In Socrates, philosophy becomes practical without losing anything of the speculative impulse. ΠΟΛΙΤΊΙΚΟΣ. 15 : 260. me τινὰ θεατήν ; ἢ μᾶλλον τῆς ἐπιτακτικῆς ὡς ὄντα αὐτὸν τέχνης θήσομεν, δεσπόζοντά γε: NE. ΣΏ. Πῶς γὰρ οὐ μᾶλλον ; » , 3 ” SE. Τὴν ἐπιτακτικὴν δὴ τέχνην πάλιν ἂν εἴη θεατέον εἴ πη διέ f δοκεῖ τῇδέ θά εατέον εἰ πῃ διέστηκε. καί μοι δοκεῖ τῇδέ πῃ; καθά- ς περ ἡ τῶν καπήλων τέχνη τῆς τῶν αὐτοπωλῶν διώ- ’ Ν Ν XN / x aS ἃ ρισται τέχνης, Kai τὸ βασιλικὸν γένος ἔοικεν ἀπὸ lad a / », 5 / τοῦ τῶν κηρύκων γένους apwpio Oa. NE. 2Q. Tas ; EE. Πωληθέντα που πρότερον ἔργα ἀλλότρια παραδεχόμενοι δεύτερον πωλοῦσι πάλιν οἱ κάπηλοι. NE. ΣΏ. Πάνυ μὲν οὖν. > an Ν Ν a EE. Οὐκοῦν καὶ τὸ κηρυκικὸν φῦλον ἐπιταχθέντ᾽ 3 / / , ἐλὴν ΤᾺΝ / > aAAOT pia νοήματα παραδεχόμενον αὐτὸ δεύτερον ἐπι- 7 7 «ς / TATTEL πάλιν ETEPOLS. NE. 30. ᾿Αληθέστατα. ὍΝ S / \ HEH. Τί οὖν ; εἰς ταὐτὸν μίξομεν βασιλικὴν ἑρμη- νευτικῇ, κελευστικῇς, μαντικῇ, κηρυκικῇ καὶ πολλαῖς 2. δεσπόζοντά ye] As the word ruler implies. Cf. Soph. 221 ἃ : ὡς παντὸς δεῖ τοιοῦτον εἶναι τό γε ὄνομα τοῦτο ἔχων. 5. τῇδέ πῃ} Se. διεστηκέναι. The clause καθάπερ---ἀφωρίσθαι is in apposition with (or ex- plains) τῇδέ πῃ διεστηκέναι, and the notion οἵ δοκεῖ is resumed in ἔοικεν. 6. αὐτοπωλῶν] g MSS. have αὐτοπώλων. 13. Οὐκοῦν — ἑτέροι.] The change from ἐπιταχθὲν τἀλλότρια to ἐπιταχθέντ᾽ ἀλλότρια iS 80 slight and so necessary as hardly to deserve notice were not the former received by Bekker and defended by Stall- baum. The plural ἐπιταχθέντα and the absence of the article are both required by the paral- lelism to πωληθέντα-- ἀλλότρια in the previous sentence. is not pleonastic but emphatic. “The heralds themselves give orders in their turn.” 17. μίξομεν]! Bodl. Am. F. Bekk. Tur. μίξωμεν. The other MSS. and edd. have μίξομεν. The point can hardly be deter- mined, and the change either way is extremely slight. With Stallbaum, I am inclined to prefer μίξομεν, as more dis- tinctly pointing to a negative answer. Sie 28 αὐυτοι 10 But com- manding science is distin- guished into origi- nal and derived, much as the manu- 15 facturer is distin- guished from the re- tail dealer. This sepa- rates the king from the herald, the inter- preter, the prophet, and others whose duty it may often be to issue com- mands. 14 ΠΛΑΤΩ͂ΝΟΣ ε ἢ , , 7 a , / ETEPQAls TOUTO@V τέχναις συγγενεσιν, αι συμπᾶσαι TO Pp. 26 5 ἃ , "7 x , ΄ Ἴ: γ᾽ ἐπιτάττειν ἔχουσιν ; ἢ βούλει, καθάπερ εἰκάζομεν ΄-“ / Ν SYA , > Ἀ Ν Ν νῦν On, καὶ τοὔνομα παρεικάσωμεν, ἐπειδὴ καὶ σχεδὸν 3 / Ἃ £ Ν ἴω » ΄“- / QYV@VVUEOV OV τυγχάνει TO τῶν αὐτεπιτακτῶων γενος, Ν / ἴω / Ν \ lal / δκαὶ ταύτῃ ταῦτα διελώμεθα, TO μεν τῶν βασιλέων / ᾽ ἃ > Χ / lal \ » γένος εἰς τὴν αὐτεπιτακτικὴν θέντες, τοῦ δὲ ἄλλου XN / BA a ΄σ παντὸς ἀμελήσαντες, ὄνομα ἕτερον αὐτοῖς παραχω- i? 7 7 An \ 27 “ « lol ρήσαντες θέσθαι τινὰ ; τοῦ yap ἄρχοντος EVEKA ἡμιν «ε 7 5 > > a ἡ μέθοδος ἣν, ἀλλ᾽ οὐχὶ τοῦ ἐναντίου. NE. 2Q. Πάνυ μὲν οὖν. "Τὰ Οὐ a 5 δὴ lal 7 » hy ye! ΚΞ Ὡς Οὐκοῦν ἐπειδὴ τοῦτο μετρίως ἀφέστηκεν ἀπ᾽ 5 / 5 / \ XN > / ἐκείνων, ἀλλοτριοτητι διορισθὲν προς οἰκειοτΉΤα, an SIN 7 53 lo 3 ΧΩ 7 τοῦτο αὑτὸ πάλιν αὖ διαιρεῖν ἀναγκαῖον, εἴ τινα Χ y yf e / 9 ’, ΤΟμὴν ETL EXOMEV υπεικουσᾶν EV TOUT® 5 NE. =O. Πάνυ ye. I. τούτων τέχναις συγγενέσιν The order is τέχναις συγγενέσιν τούτων. Many other instances of inversion might have been noticed. τὸ y ἐπιτάττειν] 1. 6. by whatever further characteristic they may be distinguished. 2. καθάπερ εἰκάζομεν ---- παρει- κάσωμεν] ‘Shall we form the name analogically, inaccordance with the comparison which we made just now’—viz. between the king and the αὐτοπωλής 4 ἡ. ἕτερον---τινα] Lit. “ Step- ping aside for some other to give them a name.” ‘The ac- cusative before θέσθαι is pre- ferred to the dative after παραχωρήσαντες to avoid the collision of two datives (ἑτέρῳ αὐτοῖς). There is a slight irony in παραχωρήσαντες, “ yielding the merit to another.” Cf. Soph. 267 b, Prot. 336 ¢ 11. Οὐκοῦν---οἰκειότητα] Since then this kind has been dis- tinguished from the rest with tolerable clearness, being de- fined by contrasting what comes from others with that which originates with oneself. 13. εἴ Either “to divide, if we can find a line of sec- tion :” or, perhaps better, “ to divide, and see whether we can find a line of section.” Twa τομὴν --- ἔχομεν] This phraseology reappears in Lege. 11, 944 Ὁ: ἔχει τινα τομὴν 7 τούτων τῶν ὀνομάτων ἐπιφορά. 14. τομὴν] Cf. supr. p. 259 d, διαφυὴν, and note. ὑπείκουσαν] “ Yielding” to the sharp instrument of di- vision, the “ dividing edge” of thought. Cf Tim. 62 b: σκληρὰ δέ, ὅσοις ἂν ἡμῶν ἡ σὰρξ ὑπείκῃ. Ρ. 261, f , 261. IIOAITIKO2. EE. Καὶ μὴν φαινόμεθα eye" ἀλλ᾽ ἐπακολουθῶν / συντεμνε. NE. ΣΩ. Πῇ; ΞΕ. Πάντας ὁπόσους ἂν ἄρχοντας διανοηθῶμεν 15 , , 5 ἘΠ ἢ ΄ / ἐπιτάξει προσχρωμένους, Up οὐχ εὑρήσομεν γενέσεώς 5 -“ 4 τινος EVEKA προσταττοντᾶς 9 NE. 2Q. Πώς δ᾽ οὔ; ΞΕ. Καὶ μὴν τά γε γιγνόμενα πάντα δίχα δια- lal 7 / λαβεῖν ov παντάπασι χαλεπόν. NE. ΣΩ. πῇ; \ \ a , EE. Ta μὲν ἄψυχα αὐτῶν ἐστί που ξυμπάντων, τὰ δ᾽ ἔμψυχα. ΝΕ. ΣΩ. Nai. ἘΠῚ a / δέ 5 lol Ν “ an / μι. OUTOLS OE YE AUTOLS TO TOV γνώστικου μέρος 5 \ 32) 57) 7 /, lol ἐπιτακτίκον OV, εἴπερ βουλόμεθα τέμνειν, τεμοῦμεν. NE. ΣΏ. Κατὰ τί: aE To \ aN a a > , / > pe I. O μέν ἔπι TALS τῶν ἀψύχων γενέσεσιν αυὖυ" Aa , \ SR SEN rn “- ’ 7 φ᾽ an τοῦ τάσσοντες, TO δ᾽ ἐπὶ ταῖς TOV ἐμψύχων. Kal πᾶν οὕτως ἤδη διαιρήσεται δίχα. NE. ΣΏ. Παντάπασί γε. = \ \ / Sas , Ν ΞΕ. To μὲν τοίνυν αὐτῶν παραλίπωμεν, τὸ δ᾽ γι , 7 5) 7 Ni ἀναλάβωμεν, ἀναλαβόντες δὲ μερισώμεθα εἰς Ovo TO 4 συμπαν. I. ἐπακολουθῶν σύντεμνε | “ Follow and divide with me.” Cf. Soph. 228 c. 5. γενέσεώς τινος ἕνεκα] “ For the sake of some production.” The word γένεσις in Plato’s later dialogues acquires a wide generality of meaning. Com- pare the following passages : Soph. 235 e; Polit. 282 d, 283 d, 294 Ὁ: Phileb. 26 d, ease lim 29d. ers) 10, 889 a, 892 ὁ, II, 920 6. 14. Τούτοις ---οΟὐτοῖς)] Se. τῷ ἀψύχῳ τε καὶ ἐμψύχῳ. Cf. supr. 260a: κρίσει----καὶ ἐπιτάξει. infr. 264 6: τῷ πτηνῷ τε καὶ πεζῷ. 17. Τὸ μὲν----αὐτοῦ] “The one segment of it” (rod τῆς γνω- στικῆς μέρους ἐπιτακτικοῦ). 18. ταῖς τῶν ἐμψύχων] Se. γε- “The processes which affect living creatures.” 22. τὸ σύμπαν Epexegetic in apposition with τὸ δέ. νέσεσι. 10 15 20 There isa further dis- tinction. All com- mands is- sued by a sovereign intend the doing or making of something. Now the objects of all produc- tion, and therefore of works com- manded, are inani- mate, like those of the master builder, or animate, as are the subjects of the king. But the production and nur- ture of ani- mals may be cared for either singly or in herds. The States- man is not a groom, but aherds- man. And whether we give to this latter branch of animal- tending the name of herding, or οἵ feed- ing in flocks, it matters little. W ord- catching is not the way to get rich in thoughts. 16 MAATOQNOZ NE. ΣΩΏ. Λέγεις δ᾽ αὐτοῖν ἀναληπτέον εἶναι πό- p.2 τερον ; -— , Ν Ν \ Gea 5 / mE. [lavrws που τὸ περὶ Ta (oa ἐπιτακτικον. > \ \ , “ lad > / > / ov yap δὴ τὸ ye τῆς βασιλικῆς ἐπιστημὴς ἐστι ποτε σ΄ > ΄ » a - > , > \ 5 TOV ἀψύχων ἐπιστατοῦν, οἷον ἀρχιτεκτονικον, ἄλλα / > lal / Ν Ν Ε \ a \ YVEVVQALOTEPOV, EV τοις ζώοις και πέρι αὐτὰ TAVTA ΤῊΡ / / δύναμιν ἀεὶ κεκτημένον. ΝΕ. ΣΩ. Ὀρθῶς. HE. Τήν γε μὴν τῶν ζώων γένεσιν καὶ τροφὴν \ ΄ of ! 5 \ \ \ IoTHY μέν τις ἂν ἴδοι μονοτροφίαν οὖσαν, THY δὲ κοινὴν ἴω 3 lad 5 7 7 . / τῶν ev ταῖς ἀγέλαις θρεμμάτων ἐπιμέλειαν. NE. ΣΏ. Ὀρθῶς. HE. ᾿Αλλ᾽ οὐ μὴν τόν γε πολιτικὸν εὑρήσομεν 7 “ ’ +S € Ἢ ἰδιοτρόφον, ὥσπερ βοηλάτην ἢ τινα ἱπποκόμον, ἀλλ᾽ 15 ἱπποφορβῷ τε καὶ βουφορβῷ μᾶλλον προσεοικότα. NE. 30. Φαίνεταί γε δὴ ῥηθὲν νῦν. EE. Πότερον οὖν τῆς ζωοτροφίας τὴν τῶν ξυμ- πόλλων κοινὴν τροφὴν ἀγελαιοτροφίαν ἢ κοινοτροφι- ΄ 5 / κήν τινα ὀνομάζωμεν ; ΝΕ. ΣΩ. ‘Ozorepov ἂν ἐν τῷ λόγῳ συμβαίνῃ. ΞΕ. Καλῶς γε, ὦ Σώκρατες" κἂν διαφυλάξῃς τὸ ἣν ,’ὔ Py 4 ΕῚ / vA 3 Ἂς μὴ σπουδάζειν ἔτι TOLS ονομᾶσι, πλουσιώτερος €lS TO 9. γένεσιν καὶ τροφὴν] The ambiguity οἵ the word γένεσις helps to conceal the error of confusing the king with the shepherd, which affords so much matter for discussion in what follows. 14. βοηλάτην] One who drives an ox: as, for instance, in ploughing. τό. Φαίνεται----ῥ(ηθὲν viv] Cf. Soph. 226 ἃ: Σχεδὸν οὕτω viv λεχθὲν φαίνεται, Rep. 7, 525 d, ἐννοῶ ῥηθέντος κιτ.λ., and com- pare the Homeric ῥεχθὲν δέ τε νήπιος ἔγνω. 21. τὸ μὴ σπουδάζειν ἐπὶ τοῖς ὀνόμασι 1 Plato frequently dwells on the danger of being imposed on in philosophy by words; and alludes to the viti- ating effect which a love of ver- bal distinction had on his con- temporaries. Cf. e. g. Theet. 166 Ὁ, 177 8, 184 ¢3.- Soph. 218 c; Rep. 5, 454 a. 22. πλουσιώτερος εἰς TO γῆρας] Unlike the ὀψιμαθεῖς of Soph. | 261. ITOAITIKO®. 17 a , ΄σ \ ~ γῆρας ἀναφανήσει φρονήσεως. viv δὲ τοῦτο μέν, ’ ’ , \ \ , καθαπερ διακελεύει, ποιητέον᾽ τὴν δὲ ἀγελαιοτροφι- \ Lob yaa} al tal / > / Ἀ 7 κὴν ap ἐννοεῖς πῇ τις δίδυμον ἀποφήνας τὸ ζητούμε- \ - “ , / νον ev διπλασίοισι τὰ νῦν ἐν τοῖς ἡμίσεσιν εἰς τότε 7 < lal ποιήσει ζητεῖσθαι ; 5 ’ val a \ NE. 2Q. Προθυμήσομαι. καί μοι δοκεῖ τῶν μὲν > , Ἐπ 5 σι \ 5 , ” ἀνθρώπων ἑτέρα τις εἶναι, τῶν δὲ αὖ θηρίων addy 7 τροφὴ. / SE. Παντάπασί ye προθυμότατα καὶ ἀνδρειότατα / Χ la / > fal \ / Ompnoa. μὴ μέντοι TovTO ye εἰσαῦθις κατὰ δύναμιν το πάσχωμεν. NE. 2Q. Τὸ ποῖον ; SE. Μὴ σμικρὸν μόριον ἕν πρὸς μεγάλα καὶ πολλὰ ἀφαιρῶμεν, μηδὲ εἴδους χωρίς: ἀλλὰ τὸ μέ. But how shall we divide the herdsman’s art? Shall we say at once that there is one kind that deals with men, and another with brutes ? This is to assume too much. For what is the ground of our distine- tion be- tween men and brutes? We must proceed more gra- dually : Ww 3) ᾽ὔ , \ \ a . 4s pos ἅμα «idos ἐχέτω. κάλλιστον μὲν yap ἀπὸ τῶν 15 ‘ividing ἄλλων εὐθὺς διαχωρίζειν τὸ ζητούμενον, ἂν ὀρθῶς 251 b, who are perhaps thought of here. Cf. Phedr. sub. fin.: πλούσιον δὲ νομίζοιμι τὸν σοφόν. 2. ἀγελαιοτροφικὴν] He again varies the word in accordance with the preceding remark. “Do you perceive a way in which, by shewing the art of herding to be twofold, one may cause what is now sought amongst twice the number of things to be then sought amongst half that number ?” τοῖς mp. the half, i.e. of the double number. 4. διπλασίοισι] So H. Most MSS. have διπλασίοις ἡ (Bodl.7). The Ionic form of the dative plural (which occurs again infr. 304 6) is one of the many co- incidences in point of language between this dialogue and the Laws. I4. TO μέρος ἅμα εἶδος ἐχέτω] The spirit of this passage may be compared with Phedr. 265 Θὲ: κατ᾽ εἴδη τέμνειν,----καὶ μὴ ἐπι- χειρεῖν καταγνύναι μέρος μηδὲν : Phileb. 14 6: τὰ μέλη τε καὶ ἅμα μέρη διελὼν τῷ λόγῳ. Rep. 4, 445 d: ὅσοι---πολιτειῶν τρό-- ποι εἰσὶν εἴδη ἔχοντες. The true dialectician is he who hits upon the real divisions of things : and the real divisions are those which a true dialec- tician would make. It is diffi- cult to say in how far the “form” here spoken of is ob- jective, and how far subjective. As we should say, “do not divide without a principle of division.” τό. ἂν ὀρθῶς ἔχῃ] “If your division proves to be the right one.” Young Socrates is allowed =p each kind as nearly as we can in half, and making sure that we can assign a rational principle for each distinction. Thus our coun- trymen make a great as- sumption when they 18 7 / x, ἡ ‘ / > Ν ᾿᾽) Ἁ ἐχῃ: καθάπερ ὀλίγον σὺ πρότερον οἰηθεὶς ἐχειν τὴν p. 2063 ΠΛΑΤΩΝΟΣ / > / Ν ΄ > Ν es) > / ιαίρεσιν ἐπέσπευσας TOV λόγον, ἰδὼν ἐπ᾿ ἀνθρώπους / πορευόμενον. 3 ΄σ΄ > ἀλλὰ yap, ὦ ire, λεπτουργεῖν οὐκ / / ἀσφαλές, διὰ μέσων δὲ ἀσφαλέστερον ἰέναι τέμνον- ™~ > 4 ΄ an 5τας, Kal μᾶλλον ἰδέαις av τις προστυγχάνοι. τοῦτο δὲ διαφέρει τὸ πᾶν πρὸς τὰς ζητήσεις. NE. ΣΩ. Πῶς, ὦ ξένε, λέγεις τοῦτο ; ΞῈ. Πειρατέον ἔτι σαφέστερον φράζειν εὐνοίᾳ “ a , 5) Σ / > “ \ 53 ~ τῆς ons φύσεως, ὦ Σώκρατες. ἐν τῷ μεν οὖν παρε- / \ na a IOGTHKOTL TH νῦν δηλῶσαι μηδὲν ἐνδεῶς ἀδύνατον" / / lal / Che val ἐπιχειρητέον δέ TL καὶ σμικρῷ πλέον αὐτὸ προαγαγεῖν ’ Ν / / oS εἰς TO πρόσθεν σαφηνείας ένεκα. NE. ΣΏ. Ποῖον οὖν δὴ es διαιρουμένους ἡμᾶς οὐκ ὀρθῶς ἄρτι δρᾷν ; to fall into a natural error, for the sake of illustrating the difference between the right and the wrong method. 1. καθάπερ---ἔχειν] Se. ὀρθῶς. 2. ἐπέσπευσας ---- πορευόμενον] “You hastened the steps of the inquiry when you saw them directed towards mankind.” “The Argument” is still per- sonified. ἐπέσπευσας τὸν λόγον] Cf. Legg. 2, 658 ἃ: μὴ ταχὺ τὸ τοιοῦτον κρινώμεθα, ἀλλὰ διαι- ροῦντες κατὰ μέρη σκοπώμεθα. 3. λεπτουργεῖν] ‘To make short work.” “To cut off too small a piece.” 5. τοῦτο δὲ διαφέρει τὸ πᾶν] Here, as in the latter part of the Pheedrus, the Idea is the true form, not separated from the matter, but discerned by dialectic amongst particulars : the objective element in each determination of thought. 8. εὐνοίᾳ τῆς ons φύσεως, ὦ Σώκρατες] Cf. Thet. 185 ; Soph. 266 ; Parm. 130: where the capacity of the hearer is likewise made the measure of the enunciation of some great truth. In Rep. 7, 529 e, on the contrary, “dear Glaucon” is not thought capable of fol- lowing the most abstract ac- count of dialectic. In the present passage also Plato breaks off abruptly: “It is impossible to explain it per- fectly at this present juncture.” ἐν τῷ παρεστηκότι Ta νῦν. Per- haps all such discussions were reserved for the “ Philosophus ;” and this may be one reason why that dialogue was never written. Il. προαγαγεῖν] Cf. Ar. Pol. TIT. 7: καλῶς δ᾽ ἔχει καὶ νῦν ἀναλαβόντας αὐτὰ προαγαγεῖν. 13. Ποῖον] Governed by οὐκ ὁρθως ---- δρᾷν, “ What mistake do you say we have just made in our divisions ?” ΠΟΛΙΤΊΚΟΣ. 19 ἕ ec 3 7 > , Le 262. wa. Τοιόνδε, οἷον εἴ τις τἀνθρώπινον ἐπιχειρήσας divide / / , A , Σ τῆ mankin« d δίχα διελέσθαι γένος διαιροῖ καθάπερ οἱ πολλοὶ τῶν _ into Greek » ΄ , \ \ ε Ν 4 A Ae ant Barba- ἐνθάδε διανέμουσι, TO μὲν Ἑλληνικὸν ὡς ἐν ἀπὸ rian, and so would , 3 a / / \ o a πάντων ἀφαιροῦντες χωρίς, σύμπασι δὲ τοῖς ἄλλοις any one , > , 5 ν > , Ὗ > , who divi- yeveoly, απειροις ουσι και ἀμικτοῖς και ἀσυμφώνοις 5 ded num- \ “ON ἮΝ β ΄, β - r , , bers into 7 pos a Uj] a, ap apov Le K NOEL 7 POO ELTTOVTES ten thou- oars A , \ / A N , A ὀνας sand and αὐτο, διὰ ταύτην THY μίαν κλῆσιν καὶ γένος EV AUTO all besides 5 A ΕΣ Ν ᾽ / 5 , ten thou- εἶναι προσδοκῶσιν. ἢ Tov ἀριθμὸν τις αὖ νομίζοι Eo Te: Ἄν / a ΄ > , ὃ: “ἢ would be Kar εἰδὴ δύο διαιρεῖν μυριάδα ἀποτεμνόμενος ἀπὸ — more scien- » « ἃ 5 » / \ lad a Ν tifie to dis- ὁ πάντων, ὡς ἕν εἶδος ἀποχωρίζων, Kal τῷ λοιπῷ δὴ το tinguish N , EN ok x \ “ 53 \ ~_» number παντὶ θέμενος ev ὄνομα, διὰ τὴν κλῆσιν αὖ καὶ TOUT — into odd ’ a , Se? Ne A , ΄ and even, ἀξιοῖ γένος ἐκείνου χωρὶς ETEPOY EV γίγνεσθαι. KaA- πᾶ man- aes, FS ᾿ =» kindint λιον δέ που καὶ μᾶλλον κατ᾽ εἴδη καὶ δίχα διαιροῖτ τς and female, and not to in- ἄν, εἰ τὸν μὲν ἀριθμὸν ἀρτίῳ Kal περιττῷ τις τέμνοι, 3. ἐνθάδε] Se. κατὰ τὴν ‘EX- nor understanding one an- hada. other’s speech.” τὸ μὲν ----προσδοκῶσι)]͵ These 8. νομίζοι] “Should use,” words are explanatory of diave- “be wont,” “adopt the custom μουσι. Hence, as elsewhere of.” Cf. Legg. 10, 908 6: τὸ explained, the absence of a θεοὺς νόμιζον ἀμελεῖν εἶδος. connecting particle, or relative. 9. ἀποτεμνόμενος ] For the Or perhaps it is better to sup- middle voice, cf. Soph, 287 a, pose a return from the par- Pheedr. 266 a. ticiple to the indicative in 13. μᾶλλον---δίχα] Compare προσδοκῶσι. the stress which is laid on 5. yeveow—npocerrovres αὐτό] the bisection, if possible, of There is a change of construc- each kind, in Phileb. 16 d: tion: that at first intended μετὰ μίαν δύο, εἴ πως εἰσί, σκο- being βάρβαρον ἕν ὄνομα θέμενοι, πεῖν. Cf. supr. 262 a: τὸ (η- or something of the kind. τούμενον ἐν διπλασίοισι τανῦν ἐν αὐτὸ, Which resumes συμπ. τ. a. τοῖς ἡμισέσιν εἰς τότε ποιήσει γεν.; is suggested by the accu- ζητεῖσθαι : an injunction which sative βάρβαρον. The grammar suggested the rule which the may, of course, be saved by answer has violated. There omitting αὐτός But this is is here the same love of pro- unnecessary: πάλαι γὰρ ἐσμὲν portion and equality which ἀνάπλεῳ τῶν τοιούτων. appears in Aristotle’s account ἀμίκτοις καὶ ἀσυμφώνοις] ““Nei- of Justice. See especially his ther holding any intercourse (or etymology of δικαστὴς, quasi intermarrying, vid. inf. 265 6) διχαστής. D2 kK aS troduce such acci- dental dif- ferences as Lydian or Phrygian (not to say Greek), until he were ata loss for a distinction which had a rational ground. But, it may be asked, how can we tell when a division is accidental and when real? This question is reserved : and we re- turn to the distinction of young Socrates, between man and the brutes. Which is just as if that ra- tional and politic ani- mal the 5 20 ΠΛΑΤΏΝΟΣ \ \ 5 a > , , » \ , τὸ δὲ ad τῶν ἀνθρώπων γένος ἄρρενι καὶ θήλει, p. 26 \ Ὁ 5, « Ν a Λυδοὺς δὲ ἢ Φρύγας ἢ Twas ἑτέρους πρὸς ἅπαντας ΄ > 16 / ff) ’ ω 7 [γι Ν TATTOV ἀποσχίζοι ΤΟΤΕ, ἡνίκα απττόροι yevos αμα και / c / « 7 - / μέρος EUPLOKELV EKATEPOV τῶν σχισθέντων. NE. 2Q. ᾿Ορθότατα. ἀλλὰ γὰρ τοῦτο αὐτό, ὦ “- / a 57 ΄ » / ! ξένε, πῶς ἂν τις γένος καὶ μέρος ἐναργέστερον yvowN, ε 5 / 3 oO > / ὡς av ταὐτὸν ἐστον GAN ἕτερον ἀλλήλοιν ; 5 an an if EE. Ὦ βέλτιστε ἀνδρῶν, οὐ φαῦλον προστάττεις, 4 «ε “-“ \ Ν “ / lal 4 Σώκρατες. ἡμεῖς μὲν καὶ νῦν μακροτέραν τοῦ δέοντος ’ « ἴω / ἴω πλέον ἡμᾶς κελεύεις πλανηθῆναι. > ἊΝ lo / 7 “2 ἊΝ 9 WS. ιοάπὸ τοῦ προτεθέντος λόγου πεπλανήμεθα, σὺ δ᾽ ETL A \ 3 “ νυν μεν οὖν, ὥσπερ 3 / > 7 3 a \ ᾽ σ΄ \ ELKOS, ἐπανίωμεν πάλιν ταῦτα δὲ εἰσαῦθις κατα TXO- Ἂ / θ 7 9 7ὔ i NV, καθαπερ LXVEVOVTES, μέτιμεν. Ἂν; \ a / ov μὴν ἀλλὰ τοῦτο 3 ΄ > a , ye ad παντάπασι φύλαξαι, μή ποτε Tap ἐμοῦ δόξῃς NE. ΣΏ. Τὸ ποῖον ; SN ΄σ / » / τ αὐτὸ ἐναργῶς διωρισμένον ἀκηκοέναι. 5.7 o , 3 HH. Eidos τε καὶ μέρος ἕτερον ἀλλήλων εἶναι. NE. ΣΩ. Τί μήν; "ἘΞ Ὥ is \ “ 5 Ν ͵7ὔ SLEN fy ds. 5 €lOOS μὲν OTQAV 7) TOU, Καὶ μέρος QUTO 2. Δυδοὺς δὲ ἢ Φρύγας ἤ τινας ἑτέρου] There is deep irony in the substitution of these despised names (Eur. Alc. 675: ὦ παῖ, τίν᾽ αὐχεῖς, πότερα Λυδὸν ἢ Φρύγα κακοῖς ἐλαύνειν ἀργυρώ- νητον σέθεν) for that of Ἕλληνες as opposed to Βάρβαροι: and the same view is continued presently, where, to shew the nature of the distinction be- tween men and beasts, cranes are put in the place of men, whom they are supposed in turn to include amongst the beasts. > - 9S a ΄, “ a 3) "οἀναγκαίον εἶναι τοῦ πράγματος ὅτουπερ ἂν εἰδος 5. τοῦτο αὐτό] Se. λέγε or page imphed in the question. 13. καθάπερ ixvevovres | Cf. Theet. 187 6 : οὐκ ἀπὸ καιροῦ πάλιν ὥσπερ ἴχνος μετελθεῖν. 14. μή ποτε---δόξῃης αὐτὸ] αὐτὸ is again used with a more dis- tinct reference to what follows than to what precedes. 17. érepov] By attraction for ἕτερα. 19. ‘Qs εἶδος μὲν--- ἀνάγκη] Cf. Prot. 350 6, where the non- convertibility of a universal affirmative is similarly noticed as a new thought. See also 1263. λέγηται: μέρος δὲ εἶδος οὐδεμία ἀνάγκη. ταύτῃ με NE. >Q. Tair ἔσται. NE. 52. Ποῦ: NE. 30, ᾿Αληθῆ: καλέσας. ib. 329d: πότερον---ὥσπερ προσ- ὦπου τὰ μόρια ---- στόμα τε καὶ ῥὶς κιτιλ. ἢ ὥσπερ τὰ τοῦ χρυσοῦ “μόρια κ.τ.λ. 1. μέρος δὲ εἶδος οὐδεμία ἀν- ayxn| At whatever point divi- sion is made, that which is cut off is equally a part. But each εἶδος, besides being part of a whole, has a natural unity and a character distinct from that of every other part. 6. ὁπόθεν---ἤγαγεν] Cf. Rep. ὃ, 5643 6: πόθεν δεῦρο ἐξετρα- πόμεθα: 7. ὅθεν] By attraction for ἐκεῖθεν ov. 8. μάλα mpodvpas] Supra 262 a: Προθυμότατα διήρησαι. 12. τότ Bodl. ἍΠῚ Τοῦτ: which would seem plausible but for the absence of the ἊἋ al 5 > / / ἢ Kelvyn μᾶλλον, ὦ Σώκρατες, ἀεὶ φάθι λέγειν. 7 / Ν ἣ ~ ¢ BE. Φρασον δή μοι TO μετὰ τοῦτο. ΄-΄- f 2 i 7 ς Cal ~ > ΞΕ. To τῆς ἀποπλανήσεως ὅποθεν ἡμᾶς δεῦρ 5 3 \ \ ΄ “ > Ν Ν ηγαγεν. οἶμαι μὲν γὰρ μάλιστα, ὅθεν ἐρωτηθεὶς ov \ > , a / 9 / τὴν ἀγελαιοτροφίαν ὅπῃ διαιρετέον εἶπες μάλα προ- / [Δ] 53 7 7 Ν \ 3 7, oS θύμως Ov’ εἶναι Gov γένη, TO μὲν ἀνθρώπινον, ἕτε- \ Κ᾿ γι ρον δὲ τῶν ἄλλων ξυμπάντων θηρίων ἕν. ΠΟΛΙΤΙΚΟΣ. 21 crane were to put cranes in one cate- gory, and the other animals, including 5 men, in another, with, it may be, the same name of * brutes.’ Such crude logic must be avoided here. yy XN , 7 ΄σ HE. Καὶ ἔμοιγε δὴ τότ᾽ ἐφάνης μέρος ἀφαιρῶν e ΄σ σ΄ \ Ν 5 7 / ἵν ἡγεῖσθαι καταλιπεῖν τὸ λοίπὸν αὖ πάντων γένος ἕν, “ a 5. Ν > ΄ "7 x / OTL πᾶσι TAUTOV ἐπονομάζειν εσχέρς ονόμα, θηρία d NE. SQ. ἪΝν καὶ ταῦτα οὕτως. / 53 7 ? SE. To δέ ye, ὦ πάντων ἀνδρειότατε, τάχ᾽ av, article. μέρος is used empha- tically as opp. to γένος : a part, but not necessarily a kind. 13. καταλιπεῖν τὸ λοιπὸν av πάντων γένος ἕν] “That you had left in what remained, one class including all.” 14. ἐπονομάζειν — καλέσας] Note the redundancy. 17. To δέ ye] ‘‘ Whereas in truth.” Cf. (amongst many instances) Legg. 1, 630d: τὸ δὲ πῶς χρῆν ἡμᾶς λέγειν 5 ὦ πάντων ἀνδρειότατε also Legg. 10, 905 6. This passage has a real, though remote, bearing on two questions which have been associated also in recent in- quiry— the reality of species, and the relation of man to the lower animals. Plato, So 22 ΠΛΑΤΩ͂ΝΟΣ "ἢ ’ , ΕῚ / ~ lod - fal Ἀ εἴ που φρόνιμόν ἐστί τι ζῶον ἕτερον, οἷον δοκεῖ τὸ p. 26 a ΄, yA a yA A E Hoe Sa / τῶν γεράνων, ἢ TL τοιοῦτον ἄλλο, * κατὰ ταῦτα ἴσως while believing firmly ἴῃ the existence of lines of demarca- tion in Nature corresponding to the distinctions of science (not to those of common lan- guage and opinion), appears, so far as he has a serious meaning under the mask of irony, to recognize the possi- bility of a closer relationship between the human _ species and other animal forms than is readily acknowledged by man. The object of the whole passage, however, from p. 262 a, is, probably, to correct a misapprehension to which the reasoning of the Sophist might give rise. The antithesis of Being and Not-Being is in the abstract exhaustive, and the purely abstract notion of τὸ μὴ év is perfectly definite. But in particular inquiries, such as the present, it is not enough to distinguish logically, a pri- ori, between “this” and “all that is not this.” My con- ception of “this” gains no- thing from being opposed to a wholly indefinite idea in which there is no unity, and which is therefore not an idea. If the process of divi- sion is to add anything to knowledge, the conceptions which exclude each other must both be clearly seen, and so must the boundary which divides them. In other words, there must be a reasonable and clearly understood ground or principle for each dicho- tomy. The positive as well as the negative element of the conception which is rejected -hended. For must be recognized, in order that the negative as well as the positive content of the selected notion may be appre- instance, the comparative study of Natural History, Anatomy, and Physi- ology gives a far more com- plete notion of man’s physical nature than is arrived at through the observation of man himself, or through the mere distinction at first hand be- tween man and the brutes. 1. φρόνιμον----τὸ τῶν γεράνων The migratory habits of the crane gave him an important place in ancient fable. (Hom. Il. r. 3-7.) Aristotle suggests the following reasons for sup- posing the existence of reason in the crane. De Anim. H. ix. 11: Φρόνιμα δὲ πολλὰ καὶ περὶ τῶν γεράνων δοκεῖ συμβαίνειν. ἐκτοπίζουσι γὰρ μακράν, καὶ εἰς bos πέτονται πρὸς τὸ καθορᾷν τὰ πόρρω καὶ ἐὰν ἴδωσι νέφη καὶ χειμέρια, καταπτᾶσαι ἡσυχάζου- σιν. “Ere δὲ τὸ ἔχειν ἡγεμόνα τε καὶ τοὺς ἐπισυρίττοντας ἐν τοῖς ἐσχάτοις, ὥστε κατακούεσθαι τὴν φωνήν. Ὅταν δὲ καθέζωντιιι, ai μὲν ἄλλαι ὑπὸ τῇ πτερύγι τὴν κεφαλὴν ἔχουσαι καθεύδουσιν ἐπὶ ἑνὸς ποδὸς ἐναλλάξ, ὁ δὲ ἡγεμὼν γυμνὴν ἔχων τὴν κεφαλὴν mpoopa, καὶ ὅταν αἴσθηταί τι σημαίνει βοῶν. τὸ τῶν γεράνων] Se. γένος, infr. Or simply -- οἱ γέρανοι. Cf. supr.: τὸ τῆς ἀποπλανήσεως. 2. * κατὰ ταὐτὰ] MSS. ὃ κατὰ ταὐτὰ, ὃ, which the Zurich editors reject and Bekker and Hermann include in brackets, is indefensible because inter- ΠΟΛΙΤΙΚΟΣ. 23 { 6 , , N , , \ A / 263. διονομαζοι, καθάπερ Kai σύ, yepavovs μὲν ἕν γένος > \ ἴω » / Ν a SLAIN « a ἀντιτιθεν τοῖς ἄλλοις ζώοις καὶ σεμνυνον αὐτὸ EAUTO, \ \ - > δ > Sia Ta δὲ ἄλλα μετὰ τῶν ἀνθρώπων ξυλλιιβὸν εἰς ταὐτὸ OX 7 Ἁ 7 / / fal οὐδὲν ἄλλο πλὴν tows θηρία προσείποι. πειραθῶμεν Ly Ὁ ἴω Lal / / lal οὖν ἡμεῖς ἐξευλαβεῖσθαι πάνθ᾽ ὁπόσα τοιαῦτα. NE. ΣΩ. Πῶώς; \ a Χ ζω /, Υ / ἡ EE. Μὴ πᾶν τὸ τῶν ζώων γένος διαιρούμενοι, ἵνα ἧττον αὐτὰ πάσχωμεν. NE. cH DR NE. 50. Τί δή: EE. Sv Sy γάρ: rupting the sense between ἂν and διονομάζοι, where the opt. is required by προσείποι infr. διο- νομάζοι = distinguish in words. Note the return to the more direct constr. in προσείποι. 2. σεμνῦνον --- éavtd] Cf. Phileb. 28 d: of σοφοί, ἑαυτοὺς ὄντως σεμνύνοντες. 4. προσείποι] There is a re- turn from the participial to the more direct construction. 5. ἐξευλαβεῖσθαι ---- τοιαῦτα | “ Keep ourselves quite free from any such error.” Where the use of compounds is so frequent, it is unsafe to lay too much stress on the meaning of prefixes. Hence in Soph. 231 ¢ (where see note) perhaps ἐξαναπνεύσωμεν means simply “to recover breath,” as in Pheedr. 254 ©. 7. Μὴ πᾶν τὸ τῶν ζώων διαιρ.] “ By not making the whole animal kingdom the object of DQ. Οὐδὲν yap δεῖ. \ 3 ΄ ε , , Kai yap οὖν Kai τότε ἡμαρτάνετο TAUTN. ΄-“ a 7 ἈΝ Gain 7 Τῆς γνωστικῆς ὅσον ἐπιτακτικὸν ἡμῖν μέρος, a a ’ὕ » / Ν as ν που TOU ζωοτροφικοῦ γένους, ἀγελαίων μὴν ζώων. our (final) division.” 1. 6. By first subdividing it so as to deal with a part only. 8. αὐτὰ] Cf. Theet. 207 d: δρῶντας αὐτά. 9. Οὐδὲν γὰρ δεῖ] Either “ In- deed we must ποῦ :” or, if οὐδὲν refers to ἧττον, “We must avoid it altogether—he (not less liable but) not at all liable to this mistake.’’ The former is more idiomatic. Το. καὶ τότε] Also in a former division: viz. 261 d, where we distinguished ἡ τῶν ἀγελαίων ζώων ἐπιτακτικη. All animals, whether gregarious or other- wise, should have been first dis- inguished into wild and tame. 12. ὅσον --- μέρος] Sub. ἦν from next clause. 13. ἀγελαίων μὴν ζώων] Cf. Legg. 3, 694 6 (Cyrus is spoken of): ὁ δέ ye πατὴρ αὐτοῖς αὖ ποίμνια μὲν καὶ πρόβατα καὶ ἀγέλας ἀνδρῶν τε καὶ ἄλλων πολλῶν πολ- Io We had already erred in the same direc- tion when we spoke of our “* com- manding science” as concerned with herd- ed animals, For there is a pre- vious divi- sion of ani- mals into wild and tame, and this we passed over. Let us be more guarded, now that we have felt the truth of the proverb, «* More haste, worse speed.” We may thus arrive at the same result, but it will be worked out for us in a more satis- factory way. 5 10 15 24 NE. 2Q. Nai. ΠΛΑΤΩ͂ΝΟΣ / ” Ν / / Ν EE. Διήρητο τοίνυν ἤδη καὶ τότε ξύμπαν τὸ ζῶον τῷ τιθασῷ καὶ ἀγρίῳ. ἐ [ [ \ \ \ “ἢ τὰ μὲν yap ἐχοντα / , “ , \ \ \ τιθασεύεσθαι φύσιν ἥμερα προσείρηται, τὰ δὲ μὴ ἔχοντα ἄγρια. NE. 2Q. Καλώς. HOR ἡμέροις ᾧητητέα θρέμμασιν. NE. 20. Nai. cA OF “ ATTAVTA \\ / 6 Ν a r 5 TAXU YVEYOMEVA Προς Τῇ TOALTLKY). e na “Hv δέ ye θηρεύομεν / ,’ ΄σ ἐπιστήμην, ἐν τοῖς 53 Ν 4 τ a > , ‘ ἣν TE καὶ ἐστιν, ETL τοῖς ἀγελαίοις μεν \ / , y y Μὴ τοίνυν διαιρώμεθα ὥσπερ τότε, πρὸς ἀποβλέψαντες, μηδὲ σπεύσαντες, ἵνα δὴ πεποίηκε γὰρ A a Ν Ν \ ‘ iv ἡμᾶς Kal νῦν παθεῖν τὸ κατὰ THY παροιμίαν παθος. NE. 2Q. [Ποῖον ; HE. Οὐχ ἡσύχους εὖ διαιροῦντας ἠνυκέναι Bpadv- τερον. NE. ΣΩ. Καὶ καλῶς γε, ὦ ξένε, πεποίηκεν. ZE. Ταῦτ᾽ ἔστω. πάλιν 6 οὖν ἐξ ἀρχῆς Χ A / Co) 3) \ 20THY κοινοτροφικὴν πειρώμεθα διαιρεῖν: tows yap καὶ τοῦτο, Ib. 5, 735: πᾶσαν ἀγέλην ποιμὴν καὶ BovKodos Tpo- φεύς τε οὐκ ἄλλως μήποτε ἐπιχει- ρήσῃ θεραπεύειν. 3. ἔχοντα--φύσι»ν)] “ Whose nature admitted οἵ domestica- tion.” 8. ἦν] Cf. 263 e. μὲν introduces a qualifica- tion, which would be expressed in English by an emphasis on the adjective. 12. ἵνα δὴ] Cf. Theet. 183 a: iva δὴ---ὀρθὴ φανῇ. τύ, Οὐχ ἡσύχους---βραδύτερο»] λὰς ἐκτᾶτο. ἃ XN a / ε Ὁ σὺ προθυμεῖ, διαπεραινόμενος ὁ The proverb (- “ More haste, worse speed”) seems to be given verbatim, except that διαιροῦν- τας is substituted for some more general word. εὖ] “ Carefully.” 18. Kal καλῶς ye] Le. “ We have reason to be glad of the delay.” 21. τοῦτο αὐτὸ ὃ σὺ mpobupei] 1. 6. the definition of man, as the object of the statesman’s art. Supr. 262 Ὁ: ἰδὼν ἐπ᾽ ἀν- θρώπους πορευόμενον. διαπεραινόμενος--μηνύσει}] Cf. Ῥ. 26 Ῥ. 26, b ΠΟΛΙΤΊΚΟΣ. Q5 264. λόγος αὐτός κάλλιον μηνύσει. καί φράζε. NE. ΣΏ. Ποῖον δή ; μααὶ 4 ν᾽ ΄ > mE. Tode, εἰ τινων πολλάκις τ δια κη κοῖς: οὐ σοι Gregarious tame ani- e yap δὴ προστυχής ye αὐτὸς οἷδ᾽ ὅτι γέγονας ταῖς ἐν 5. mals in- clude τῷ Νείλῳ τιθασείαις τῶν ἰχθύων καὶ τῶν ἐν ταῖς shoals of A , > \ \ ΄ le tye fish and βασιλικαῖς λίμναις. ἐν μὲν yap κρῆναις TAX ἂν flocks of geese and 5 7 ’ / ἴσως εἴης noOnpevos. Crimean witness the fishponds of Egypt and Baby- lon and the plains of Thessaly. NE. ΣΏ. Πάνυ μὲν οὖν καὶ ταῦτα τεθέαμαι κἀ- κεῖνα πολλῶν ἀκήκοα. 10 SE. Kal μὴν ynvoBwrias ye καὶ yepavoBwrias, Legs. 7, 799 6: κἂν ἡ διέξ- odos αὕτη ὅλη σχοῦσα τέλος ἱκα- νῶς ἂν μηνύσειε καὶ τὸ νῦν διαπο- ρούμενον. Arist. Pol. IIT.3: αὐτὸ yap φανὲν τὸ λεχθὲν ποιεῖ δῆλον. τῶν ἐν ταῖς β. λίμναι] Se. ἰχθύων. As if the former phrase had been ταῖς τῶν ἐν τῷ N. ἰχθύων τιθασείαις. “I know you have never had an opportunity I. avros—pnvioe| Cf. Thest. 200 6: τάχ᾽ ἂν αὐτὸ φήνειε τὸ (nrovpevov. Phileb.20: προϊὸν δ᾽ ἔτι σαφέστερον δείξει. 4. Τόδε, εἴ τινων] “ This, whether you have perhaps heard of it.” Cf. Theeet. 158 c: τὸ ποῖον ; Ὃ πολλάκις σε οἶμαι διακηκοέναι ἐρωτώντων κιτιλ. It does not seem certain whether πολλάκις is here “ perhaps” (cf. Laches 194 a, Protag. 361 ὁ, Polit. infr. 283 b) or “often :” ef. πολλῶν infr.c. But the for- mer is more probable. 5- mpooruxns | This word oc- curs again in the Laws and Epinomis, and nowhere else in Plato, or indeed in Greek. 6. τιθασείαι.] This word, an abstract noun formed from τιθασεύω, occurs nowhere else in classical Greek. The plural of the abstract noun is used to express the concrete. of seeing how tame fish are kept in the Nile and in the ponds of the Great King.” II. yepavoBwrias| The flocks of cranes are probably sug- gested by the previous mention of the crane. The crane is classed with man by Aristotle as not only ἀγελαῖον but πολιτι- κὸν ζῶον, the form of his con- stitution being a monarchy. De Anim. Hist. I. 1. § 11: λιτικὰ δ᾽ ἐστὶν ὧν & τι καὶ κοινὸν γίγνεται πάντων τὸ ἔργον, ὅπερ οὐ πάντα ποιεῖ τὰ ἀγελαῖα. Ἔστι δὲ τοιοῦτον ἄνθρωπος, μέλιττα, σφὴξ, μυρμὴξ, γέρανος. μὲν ὑφ᾽ ἡγεμόνα ἐστί, τὰ δ᾽ ἄναρχα, οἷον γέρανος μὲν καὶ τὸ τῶν μελιτ- τῶν γένος ὑφ᾽ ἡγεμόνα, μυρμήκες T7O- , καὶ τούτων τὰ δὲ καὶ μυρία ἄλλα ἄναρχα. Com- pare Plat. Pheedo 82 b: πολι- τικόν τε Kal ἥμερον γένος, ἢ που ΄“ x ~ x LA μελιττῶν, ἢ σφηκῶν ἢ μυρμήκων---- x ἢ TO ἀνθρώπινον. 26 IAATOQNOZ > Ν \ /, Ν \ ἈΝ ͵ Hence the εἰ καὶ μὴ πεπλάνησαι περὶ τὰ Θετταλικὰ πεδία, p. 264 art of herd- ing may be divided ΄, A , 5 πέπυσαι γοῦν καὶ πιστεύεις εἶναι. ΝΕ. ΣΩ. Τί μήν: into sub- aqueousand ms = , ᾿ Soha? a ; terrene. SE. Τοῦδ᾽ ἕνεκά τοι πάντα ἠρώτησα ταῦτα, διότι ἃ And of the a = ’ ; ee eS ἐξ terrene ὃὅτῆς τῶν ἀγελαίων τροφῆς ἐστι μὲν ἔνυδρον, ἔστι δὲ creatures, \ ΄ onde Kal ξηροβατικόν. are fledged. 3 \ 5 Statecraft NE, 2Q. Ἔστι yap οὖν. is ied 9 > > a , om Sian τὰ δὰ HE. ἾΑρ᾽ οὖν καὶ σοὶ ξυνδοκεῖ ταύτῃ δεῖν διχα- dno \ \ , > 7 7, ΠΗ Cw τὴν κοινοτροφικὴν ἐπιστήμην, ἐφ ἑκατέρῳ τού- animals: \ , > 05 5 ΄, cu, \ Ἢ ali. τῶν TO μέρος αὑτῆς ἐπινέμοντας ἑκάτερον, TO μὲν dividing “ ς \ > ΄ Go ἐν be these, rea- ετέρον ὑγροτροφικὸν ον ομάζον Tas, TO ὃ ετέρον Enpo son points (0) ὃ outalonger ΤΡ οφικον 2 anda short- NE. ΣΩ. "Epocye. er way. . = Ν \ Ν X\ S 7 > ? peared BE. Kat μὴν καὶ τὸ βασιλικὸν οὕτως ov ζητή- accordance 15 σομεν ὁποτέρας ἐστὶ τῆς τέχνης" δῆλον γὰρ δὴ ε with the principles παντί. tem ND), MBO δ᾽ οἷ: but, as we Ἢ n have lei- HE. Πᾶς μὲν δὴ τό γε ξηροτροφικὸν τῆς aye- sure, we 3 « may try. λαιοτροφίας διέλοιτ᾽ ἂν φῦλον. oth—o a course in 20 NE. 2Q. Πῶς 5 turn: tak- a z a ing the =E. Τῷ πτηνῷ τε καὶ πεζῷ διορισάμενος. longer way first, NE. 30. ᾿Αληθέστατα. whilst we ΓΞ} , , Q Ὁ μος Sean ς Ἄ are fresh. SE. Ti δέ; τὸ πολιτικὸν “ὼς περὶ τὸ πεζὸν 4. Τοῦδ᾽ ἕνεκά τοι] Cf. Theeet. 185 d: τοῦδέ τοι ἕνεκα αὐτά σοι διακριβοῦμαι. 5. (ξηροβωτικόν i) The words ἐνυδρὸν and ξηροβατικὸν are ap- plied to birds by Aristotle, in the only other place where the latter word occurs in classical Greek.7 ΕΠ Al vi-g2 ments (ui vulgd ξηροβιωτικόν). 14. Kat μὴν καὶ---παντί] “ If we divide thus, we shall also be saved the trouble of asking to which art the kingly func- tion belongs: for this will be evident to all.” ποιήσαντες. 23. *as περὶ τὸ πεζὸν] Stall- baum is wrong in saying that Bekker took his reading εἰ περὶ from the majority of MSS. The following are the varia- tions, as quoted by him :—e " εἴπερ περὶ; ὥσπερ EL; ἢ ὥσπερ C et “ ΄ ουτῶς = TOUTO ΠΟΛΙΤΊΚΟΣ. 27 εἰπεῖν δοξάζειν οὕτως ; NE. SQ. "Eyoye. . 264. ζητητέον ; ἢ οὐκ οἴει καὶ TOV ἀφῤρονεστατον ὡς ἔπος ΞΕ. Τὴν δὲ πεζονομικήν, καθάπερ ἄρτιον ἀρι- θμόν, δεῖ τεμνομένην δίχα ἀποφαίνειν. NE. ΣΏ. Δῆλον. bomen Ν σ , ad CLA ε SE. Καὶ μὴν ἐφ᾽ ὁ γε μέρος ὥρμηκεν ἡμῖν ὁ 7 99 » lal / \ al « \ , λόγος, ἐπ᾿ ἐκεῖνο δύο τινὲ καθορᾷν ὁδὼ TeTapeva φαίνεται, τὴν μὲν θάττω, πρὸς μέγα μέρος σμικρὸν ’, Χ Ψ. > “- / A We διαιρουμένην, τὴν δέ, ὅπερ ἐν τῷ πρόσθεν ἐλέγομεν, σ -“ o « ΄ And) aS, “ ὅτι δεῖ μεσοτομεῖν ὡς μάλιστα, TOUT εχουσαν μαλ- 265. λον, μακροτέραν γε μήν. y, 3 « / a ἔξεστιν OUY, οποτέερᾶν ἂν βουληθῶμεν, ταύτην πορευθῆναι. re ἘΠ; ἢ ὥσπερ H; ὥσπερ ἃ ς i.e. the rest with Stephanus’ ed.) Bekker’s reading, εἰ περὶ τ. π., ζητητέον, would be more plausible if καὶ μὴν---οὐ ζητή- σομεν were immediately pre- ceding. Heindorf’s, ἢ περὶ τ. π. ᾧ,, is not improbable in itself, but has weak MS. confirma- tion. If ὡς περὶ is right, this had probably been corrupted into ὡσπερεὶ, and hence, through transposition, the variety. This reading inyolves ἃ consider- able ellipse, viz. of ἢ καὶ τοῦτο δῆλον ; or the like words. Cf. Soph. 248 d: To δὲ, ὡς, κιτιλ., and note. 4. καθάπερ ἄρτιον ἀριθμόν | Stallb. has adopted Ast’s conj., καθάπερ ἄρτι τὸν a., but such a reference would be superfluous and without point. The Stran- ger, as presently appears more clearly, does not forget the stu- dies in which young Socrates has been imbued by Theodorus, and uses ‘even number’ as a familiar example of that which can be halved: the object being still to divide each class as nearly as possible in the middle (μεσοτομεῖν infr., ἐν ἡμίσεσι --- ζητεῖσθαι supr.). Comp. Legg. 10, 895 6, cited by the Zurich editors, who are curiously mis- understood by Stallbaum. The definition of even number is there said to be ὁ δίχα διαιρού- pevos. There is probably no distinct allusion to the former mention of ἄρτιον καὶ περιτ- τόν. 7. ὥρμηκεν] Cf. supr. 262 Ὁ: ἐπ᾿ ἀνθρώπους πορευόμενον. 8. καθορᾷν----ῴφαίνεται) Se. 6 λόγος, still personified. II. μεσοτομεῖν] The same love of ‘measure’ appears as an ethical notion in Legg. 7, 793 &: τὸν λύπης τε καὶ ἡδονῆς akpa- τον βίον φεύγειν δεῖν πάντας, μέσον δέ τινα τέμνειν ἀεί. Ἐπ 2 28 MAATQNOZ ; NE. ΣΩ. Ti δέ; ἀμφοτέρας ἀδύνατον ; ΞΕ. Ἅμα γ᾽, ὦ θαυμαστέ: ἐν μέρει γε μὴν Ρ. 265. δῆλον ὅτι δυνατόν. NE. ΣΩ. Ἔν μέρει τοίνυν ἔγωγε ἀμφοτέρας αἱ- b 5 ροῦμαι. EE. Ῥάδιον, ἐπειδὴ τὸ λοιπὸν βραχύ. κατ᾽ ἀρχὰς \ \ A oA a / \ x 5 ᾿ μὴν καὶ μεσοῦσιν ἅμα τῆς πορείας χαλεπὸν av ἣν Ι a ε a XN / Fy a > > \ lal / Χ ἡμῖν τὸ προσταγμα᾽ νῦν δ᾽, ἐπειδὴ δοκεῖ ταύτῃ, τὴν / / 57 / \ y+ μακροτέραν πρότερον Ἰωμεν᾽ νεαλέστεροι yap ὄντες ea 3. ΕΝ ΄ \ \ SS 7, σ ιοβᾷον αὐτὴν πορευσόμεθα. τὴν δὲ δὴ διαίρεσιν Opa. NE. 2Q. Λέγε. Gregarious BE. Ta πεζὰ ἡμῖν τῶν ἡμέρων, ὅσαπερ ἀγελαῖα, ἜΣ ΝΣ διῃρημένα ἐστὶ φύσει δίχα. δ οι, ἈΠ, XO, None eee ΞΕ: Τῷ τῶν μὲν τὴν γένεσιν ἄκερων εἶναι, τῶν Thisdis δὲ κερασφύρον. 8 τ το ον NE. 3Q. Φαννεται. eee EE. Τὴν δὴ πεζονομικὴν διελὼν ἀπόδος ἑκατέρῳ vee σῷ μέρει, λόγῳ χρώμενος. ἂν γὰρ ὀνομάζειν αὐτὰ 2. βουληθῇς, ἔσται σοι περιπεπλεγμένον μᾶλλον τοῦ ΄ δέοντος. 2. ὦ θαυμαστέ] “ What a thing to ask!” This expres- sion throws some light on the common use of ὦ θαυμάσιε. 4. ἀμφοτέρας] πορευθῆναι is probably to be supplied. 6. ἐπειδὴ---βραχύ] The poor youth is deceived into thinking that he is near the end of his journey : τὸ δ᾽ ἦν ἄρα, ὡς ἔοικε, προοίμιον. κατ᾽ ἀρχὰς) This is one of the expressions which occur frequently in the Politicus and Laws. 9. νεαλέστεροι] ‘ While still fresh.” See Passow or Liddell and Scott sub. v. 15. τὴν γένεσιν] “ Theirgrowth or mode of existence.” γένεσις here almost = φύσις. “In that some are produced without horns and others with them.” 18. ἀπόδος] Sc. τὸ προσῆκον, or τὴν πρόσρησιν, which would be generally ὄνομα, but here λόγον. Compare Antisthenes’ sneer, that definition is only a roundabout way of naming. 20. περιπεπλεγμένον͵] EH. g. κεροφορονομευτικὴ, κολοβοκερατο- νομικῆ. “ Using description, , 265. d ΠΟΛΙΤΙΚΟΣ. 29 NE. 2Q. Πῶς οὖν χρὴ λέγειν ; ΞΕ. Ὧδε: τῆς πεζονομικῆς ἐπιστήμης δίχα διαι- 72 Ν / / 3 ΄' ρεθείσης τὸ μόριον θάτερον ἐπὶ τῷ κεροφύρῳ μέρει ῶ a > ΩΝ > , 6 Ν δὲ “ἤ πρὸς al “- TE TNS αγελῇς ETLTETAYX al, TO O€ ETEPOV ἐπι T@ TS 4 ἀκεράτου. NE. ΣΏ. Ταῦτ᾽ ἔστω ταύτῃ λεχθέντα' πάντως γὰρ ἱκανῶς δεδήλωται. μ- Ν \ “ \ ἘΠ “Ὁ 3 mE. Καὶ μὴν ὃ γε βασιλεὺς ἡμῖν αὖ κατα- \ σ XN 5 / A 4 φανὴς ὅτι κολοβὸν ἀγέλην τινὰ κεράτων vo- / EVEL. NE. 2Q. Πῶς yap ov δῆλος ; =E aN / / θ / Ν 7 me 1}. αὐτὴν τοινὺν κατασραυσάᾶντες, TO γιγνο- > “ / 3 ~ μενον αὑτῷ πειρώμεθα ἀποδοῦναι. 2 NE. ΣΏ. Πάνυ γε. EE. Πότερον οὖν βούλει τῷ σχιστῷ τε καὶ τῷ: / / ΄- 41 Ὁ Ἃ a 7 καλουμένῳ μώνυχι διαιρεῖν αὐτὴν ἢ τῇ κοινογονίᾳ τε Ν ἰὃ / 5 θ 7 7 και LOLOYOVLA 5 μᾶν QVELS γὰρ που. NE. >Q. Τὸ ποῖον ; HE. Ὅτι τὸ μὲν τῶν ἐξ ἀλλήλων γεννᾷν. NE. ΣΟ: Nai. for should you attempt to name them, the result would be too complicated.” The Gaution would apply still more point- edly to what follows. 4. τῷ τῆς akepdrov| Se. μέρει. The genitive of apposition is used (instead of τῷ ἀκεράτῳ) by attraction from ἀγέλης prece- ding. 9. κολοβὸν ---- κεράτων] “A polled herd.” The gen. after a privative adj., like ἄχαλκος ἀσπίδων. 12. τὸ yeyvopevov] “ That which falls to him.” Cf. Legg.11, cd Ν + , ἱππὼν καὶ OVOV πέφυκεν 920 6: ἰδεῖν λῆμμά τε καὶ ἀνά- λωμα τί ποτε τῷ καπήλῳ κέρδος ποιεῖ τὸ μέτριον γράψαντας δὲ, θεῖναι τὸ γιγνόμενον ἀνάλωμα καὶ λῆμμα καὶ φυλάττειν. Ib. 12, 949 d: τὸ δὲ νόμισμα γίγνεσθαι τῇ πόλει. Thue. V. 49: ὁ τῷ θεῷ γίγνεται αὐτοὶ ὑπὲρ ἐκείνων nity ἐκτίσειν. 15. τῷ καλουμένῳ μώνυχι] This expression indicates the fact that μῶνυξ was a rare word out of Homer. The characteristic of having solid hoofs is found to be coincident with that of making hybrids. 5 The king is the keeper of a horuless Toberd. But σι 20 hornless cattle are again di- vided by a double dis- tinction : into those which mix the breed and divide not the hoof, and thosewhich divide the foot and do not mix their breed. The latter description includes only two kinds. For dogs, though so- ciable, are not grega- rious. The ground of distinction between these two should be obvious to a friend of Theztetus and a geo- metrician. Man walks by a power of two feet: theremain- ing kind is potentially represent- ed by the Io 30 ITAATQNOZ HE. To δέ ye λοιπὸν ἔτι τῆς λείας ἀγέλης τῶν ἡμέρων ἀμιγὲς γένει πρὸς ἄλληλα. NE. 2Q. Τιὸς δ᾽ ov; μ--ἰ Ν y > ᾽ ,ὔ 7 ΞΕ. Τί δ᾽; ὁ πολιτικὸς ap ἐπιμέλειαν ἔχειν / / “ 7 la sbaiverar πότερα Kowoyevovs φύσεως ἢ τινος ἰδιο- γενοῦς ; NE. ΣΏ. Δῆλον ὅτι τῆς ἀμίκτου. EE. Ταύτην δὴ δεῖ καθάπερ τὰ ἔμπροσθεν, ὡς ἔοικεν, ἡμᾶς δίχα διαστέλλειν. NE. 2Q. Δεῖ γὰρ οὖν. ΞΕ. Καὶ μὴν τό γε ζῶον, ὅσον 7, i ἀγε- ; ; ἥμερον καὶ aye λαῖον, σχεδὸν πλὴν γενοῖν δυοῖν πᾶν ἤδη κατακεκερ- ’ ματισται. N \ a a > 5 7 TO γὰρ Τῶν κυνῶν OUK ἐπάξιον Κατ- “ 7 ε 3 3 , i αριθμεῖν γένος ws ev ἀγελαίοις θρέμμασιν. 5 ΝΕ. 20. Οὐ γὰρ οὖν. διαιροῦμεν ; \ \ Ἂν ἀλλὰ τίνι δὴ τὼ δύο @ ul 4 \ HE. Ὥιπερ καὶ δίκαιόν ye Θεαίτητον τε καὶ σὲ , χ ᾿ , “ διανέμειν, ἐπειδὴ καὶ γεωμετρίας ἅπτεσθον. NE. ΣΩ. Τῷ; ΞΕ. Τῇ διαμέτρῳ δήπου καὶ μέτρου διαμέτρῳ. Lament When the horse and ass are taken from the hornless cattle. λείας I. 6. κολοβοκεράτου. 2. ἀμιγὲς γένει] “ Do not mix their breed.” Dat. of the mode, like φύσει. 4. ὁ πολιτικὸς ap | For the late position of the interroga- tive πότερα in the sentence, compare Soph. 237 ¢: ἔχειν do- κοῦμεν ἂν eis τί, and note. Supr. 261 c: Λέγεις δὲ---πότερον. Rep. 9,571 6: Λέγεις δὲ καὶ τίνας ; 17. δίκαιον] “ It is to be ex- πάλιν τῇ τῆς δια- pected of you.” Cf Meno 85 6: δίκαιος yap εἶ εἰδέναι. 20. Τῇ διαμέτρῳ δήπου] The diameter of the unit square was the subject of some of the ear- liest lessons in that geometrical arithmetic through which alone numbers had hitherto been stu- died: and it had been observed that this diameter is equal to the square-root of two. Hence, a foot being always the unit, this line was known both as 7 διάμετρος and as ἡ διάμετρος 7 δυνάμει δίπους : and it is the Ῥ. 265, p. 26 266. ΤΡ MOAITIKOX. NE. >. Πῶς εἶπες ; / aA Ν 7 c “ nA BE. Ἢ φύσις, ἣν τὸ γένος ἡμῶν τῶν 91 » / ἀνθρώπων / a 37 , Ν / / Δ κέκτηται, μῶν ἄλλως πως εἰς τὴν πορείαν πέφυκεν ἢ καθάπερ ἡ διάμετρος ἡ δυνάμει δίπους ; NE. SQ. Οὐκ ἄλλως. μι \ “ a qn / 7 > ΜΞ Εἰ. Kai μὴν ἢ ye τοῦ λοιποῦ γένους πάλιν ἐστὶ abbreviated form of the latter expression, viz. δίπους δύναμις, which gives occasion to the Stranger’s somewhat laborious pleasantry. The incommensurability of this diameter with the side of the square (of ,/2 with 1) was one of the most familiar lessons of this early geometry. Hence, possibly ὃ, the omission of 2 amongst the προμήκεις ἀριθμοὶ in the demonstration of Theo- dorus (Theet. 147 d: τῆς τε τρί. modos πέρι kal πεντέποδος k.T.d.), it being taken for granted, without proof, that the δίπους δύναμις Was μήκει ov Evpperpos τῇ ποδιαίᾳ. While these were still recent discoveries, philosophers were led to see fanciful analogies to them in other departments of knowledge. Plato here satir- izes a tendency from which he was not at this time himself wholly free. The smile is al- ready on his face which pre- sently breaks into a laugh. Our view has been restricted to tame gregarious animals : to tame animals that tread the ground, that cannot fly, that have no horns, that divide the foot: thus oxen, horses, asses are excluded; dogs are not gre- garious. What remain? What but swine and men? Human progression is measured by the power of two feet, that of swine, the only remaining ani- mal, by the power of four. This interpretation has been well supported by Dr. Badham in the ‘ Epistola’ prefixed to his edition of the Euthydemus and Laches. I. Πῶς εἶπες :)] “ What did you say?” Expressing a not very unnatural surprise. 6. ἐστὶ κατὰ δύναμιν αὖ τῆς ἡμετέρας δυνάμεως διάμετρος] “Is again potentially expressed by the diameter of our diameter,” i.e. the diameter of the square of which our diameter, ,/ 2, is the side. As the diameter of the unit square is 4/2, so the dia- meter of the square of ,/2 is /4. This appears, without the help of arithmetic, from the following diagram : ab 1 square foot; ed dia- meter of αὖ, and side of 2 ft. square dee; de diameter of 2 ft. square; df square on de:= 4 square feet. a As suggested by a favourable critic in the National Review. diameter of the human power 2 Or in other words, walks by a power of 5 four feet. 32 ΠΛΑΤΩΝΟΣ A Thus man is differen- \ / 3 “ « 7 ΄ / κατὰ δύναμιν αὖ τῆς ἡμετέρας δυνάμεως διάμετρος, p. 266. tiated from εἴπερ δυοῖν γέ ἐστι ποδοῖν δὶς πεφυκυῖα. ΔΕ; NE. ΣΩΏ. Πῶς δ᾽ οὐκ ἔστι; καὶ δὴ καὶ σχεδὸν ! ὃ βούλει δηλοῦν μανθάνω. This is 5 (ΞΕ. Πρὸς δὴ τούτοις ἕτερον αὖ τι τῶν πρὸς enough. γέλωτα εὐδοκιμησάντων av, ὦ Σώκρατες, apa καθο- ΠΝ ρῶμεν ἡμῖν γεγονὸς ἐν τοῖς διῃρημένοις ; ο that this NE. 2Q. To ποῖον ; | aaa EE. TavOpdmwov ἡμῶν ἅμα γένος EvveAnyos creature Ν / an an 7 ΄΄ should be τὸ καὶ ξυνδεδραμηκὸς γένει τῷ TOV ὄντων γενναιοτάτῳ eft as ἈΝ 3 ΄ὕ και Apa EUXEPEOTATO. 5. ἕτερον av] Those who have found in these words a new division, and would intro- duce here some fresh kind,— as geese or other domestic fowls (Ast, Stallbaum), which were cut off, supr. 264 e, or apes (Winkelmann), which as tame animals are hardly ἀγελαῖα θρέμ- para, unless M. Winkelmann can find the prototype of Bea- trice and her apes in classic story,—were right in supposing that a distinct step in the ar- gument must be here indi- cated. Man has been distin- guished in terms of mathema- tical progression from the only remaining quadruped, the pig. But it remains to be shewn of which kind the king is herds- man. It has been determined what two kinds are still in competition. But the result of their competition remains to be decided. τῶν πρὸς γέλωτα εὐδοκιμησάν- “Which might have become celebrated as a joke.” “ ΄- 5 Ν καὶ ξύνδρομα πεπορευμένος τῷ τῶν ἀνδρῶν αὖ πρὸς Ν A TOV εὐχερῆ βίον ἄριστα γεγυμνασμένῳ ; NE. 3Q. Παντάπασι μὲν οὖν. — a “ [3 / rae 7 mE. Nov yap, © Σώκρατες, ἐκεῖνο ἐστι κατα- \ an ὡς « \ Lh Se oS) “ \ Ν \ haves μᾶλλον To pyOev Tor ἐν TH περὶ TOY σοφιστὴν ᾧγτήσει. called for. There is no real difficulty in the codrdination of γενναιοτάτῳ with εὐχερεστάτῳ, and the echo in γένει γενν. is clearly intentional, as in 7) γένει γενναία coduorixn. The two are thrown together by lot; they run a race together : which is left behind ? Clearly the slower animal, the pig. But the race between men and pigs involved a still more ridiculous race be- tween two sorts of men, the king and the swineherd. Thus his majesty is found contending for sovereignty with one of his flock (a phenomenon which will be repeated presently, cf. 267 e), and with one who has been most perfectly trained to lead a life of careless ease: Ulysses with that ὄρχαμος ἀνδρῶν Eumeeus. 6. μετὰ τῆς ἀγέλης] 1. 6. τῶν ἀγελαίων τινίἔ. Cf. Hipp. Maj. 288 d: οὐ κομψὸς ἀλλὰ συρφε- tos. Infr. 268 a: οὐ μόνον ἀγε- λαίων ἀνθρώπων ἀλλὰ καὶ τῶν ἀρχόντων αὐτῶν. That man should be the con- gener of the pig is in keeping with the humour of Theet. 161 Cc: ὅτι πάντων χρημάτων μέ- τρον ἐστιν ὗς κιτιλ. And the race between the king and the swineherd recals another touch of satire in the same dialogue, (174 4): βασιλέα ἐγκωμιαζόμενον —oiov συβώτην. 7. αὖ] 1.6. As the pig was εὐχερέστατον τῶν θηρίων. mp. τ. €. β. γεγυμ. 1S an οὐνγ- moron. For γεγυμνασμένῳ πρὸς, cf. Lege. 1,626 Ὁ : καλῶς γε ὦ ξένε, φαίνει μοι γεγυμνάσθαι πρὸς τὸ διειδέναι τὰ Κρητῶν νόμιμα. Compare with the preceding classification the fourfold divi- sion of living creatures accord- ing to the four elements in Tim. 40 a: pia μὲν οὐρανίων θεῶν γένος, ἄλλη δὲ πτηνὸν καὶ depo- πόρον, τρίτη δὲ ἐνυδρὸν εἶδος, πεζὸν δὲ καὶ χερσαῖον τέταρτον. το. Νῦν γάρ] A collateral in- ference is sometimes stated as a cause, e.g. Gorg. 454 d: Aj- λον yap αὖ ὅτι ov ταὐτόν ἐστιν. Badham would read ye ἄρα in all such cases. 11. ev τῇ --- ζητήσει] Soph. x FE competitor in the race. Man wins the run- ning-match, of course. But this strange race be- tween men and pigs is acconl- panied by one more absurd, be- tween the 10 king and the swine- herd, who, of all his subjects is 934 ΠΛΑΤΩΝΟΣ most com- NE. SQ. To ποῖον ; pletely 3 ΩΣ = 7 "ὔ ΠΡ ΡΠ το EE. Ὅτι τῇ τοιᾷδε μεθόδῳ τῶν λόγων οὔτε a& ΠῚΘ ὁ / a 3X / / / careless σεμνοτέρου μᾶλλον ἐμελησεν ἢ μῆ; TOV TE σμικρο- ease. ~ . Ia\ > Ν a ya \ > Certainly, τερον οὐδὲν ἠτίμακε προ TOV μείζονος, ἀεὶ δὲ καθ as was said A ce Ν / 5 / this morn- 5 αὑτὴν περαίνει τἀληθέστατον. ing, Dialee- tic prefers NE. yO: Ἔοικεν. truth to a ΄' εξ ty “ 3 dignity. EE. Οὐκοῦν pera τοῦτο, ἵνα μή pe φθῆς ἐρω- τήσας τὴν βραχυτέραν ὁδὸν " , 53 >, N Ν ἴον ἥτις τότε ἦν ἐπὶ τὸν τοῦ / [χὰ > / / 37 βασιλέως ὅρον, αὐτός σοι πρότερον ἔλθω ; 10 ΝΕ, ΣΩ, Σῴφοδρα γε. HE. Λέγω δὴ δεῖν τότε πρὸς [τὸ] τετράπουν γένος τἀνθρώπινον ἔτι μόνῳ τῷ / /, ΄ὔ n Now for δίποδα ἀγέλην πάλιν τῷ the shorter a ΄ , \ way. ι5 φυεῖ τέμνειν, τμηθείσης δὲ εὐθὺς τὸ πεζὸν τῷ δίποδι a ΄ \ διανεῖμαι, κατιδόντα OE ΄ XN \ πτηνῷ EvverAnxos THY ψιλῷ Kal τῷ πτερο- t l 5 lal Ν 2) 27 “ αὐτῆς Kal TOT ἤδη τῆς ἀνθρωπονομικῆς δηλωθείσης τέχνης, φέροντα τὸν 227 Ὁ, where the spirit of scien- tific method and that of satire interpenetrate as they do here, so that it can be hardly known which of them is made the vehicle of the other. 3. ἢ μή] Se. σεμνοτέρου. 11. τότε εὐθὺς τὸ πεζὸν] It is impossible to explain this pas- sage so as to acquit the Stran- ger of inexactness. Hither he has forgotten that the class of winged creatures was cut off (264 e), or he purposely begins the shorter path from an earlier point than where he gave no- tice of the existence of the two ways. Perhaps the words τότε εὐθὺς may imply this (ef. supr. 263 6). In any case the word πεζὸν is used in a different sense from that in which it occurs above, where it was opposed to the same πτηνὰ which it here includes. πεζόν is therefore = ξηροβατικὸν, and opposed to ἔνυδρον, “on land,” not’ on the ground,” by an ambiguity like that which belongs to the same word when applied to an armament. Cf. infr. 267 b: πεζονομικόν. This ambiguity probably gives rise to the in- exact reference. Compare Rep. 1, 354: ἐμπεσόντος αὖ ὕστερον Adyou—where the theory spo- ken of, although discussed later, had been introduced before the other. Soph. 223 d, 224 Ὁ: μεταβλητικήῆ. Such slight inac- curacies perhaps do not arise from mere neglect: they are caused by Plato’s instinctive avoidance of an over-exactness, which would be unnatural in conversation. Ρ. 266) Ne ¢ J Ι ΠΟΛΙΤΙΚΟΣ. 35 \ , - « > wy , 266. πολιτικὸν καὶ βασιλικόν, οἷον ἡνίοχον εἰς αὐτὴν 267. / a A “ / « / « ἐνστήσαντα, παραδοῦναι τὰς τῆς πόλεως ἡνίας, ὡς > / Ν » al / 3) a > / οἰκείας καὶ αὐτῷ ταύτης οὔσης τῆς ἐπιστήμης. χω Ν / > 7 ΄ NE. ΣΏ. Καλῶς καὶ καθαπερεὶ χρέος ἀπέδωκας \ ΄ \ > \ @ 7 μοι τὸν λόγον, προσθεὶς τὴν ἐκτροπὴν οἷον τόκον καὶ ς » 7 » / ἀναπληρώσας auTov. EE. Φέρε δή, καὶ ξυνείρωμεν ἐπανελθόντες ἐπὶ Ν \ 5 Χ ’ὔ a “- ἫΝ ΄ ΄ » , τὴν ἀρχὴν μέχρι THs τελευτῆς Tov λογον τοῦ oOVO- ματος τῆς τοῦ πολιτικοῦ τέχνης. NE. 3Q. Πάνυ μὲν οὖν. ZE. Τῇ ἧς τοίνυν ἐπιστήμης ἡμῖν ἢ 4H. ins γνωστικῆς τοίνυν emioTnuns ἡμῖν ἣν De 3. \ ᾽ὔ 3 Les / \ » \ KAT apxas μερος ETLTAKTLKOVY” TOUTOU δὲ ἀπεικασθεν I. οἷον----ἐνστήσαντα] For the two participles, cf. Protag. 328 ὁ: ἐλθὼν εἰς ἱερόν, ὀμόσας, ὅσου ἂν φῇ ἄξια εἶναι τὰ μαθήματα, τοσοῦτον κατέθηκεν. 2. παραδοῦναι --- ἐπιστήμης] “To give into his hands the reins of the state, believing that they are his, and that this art belongs to him.” (ταύτης SC. τῆς ἀνθρωπονομικῆς.) 5. προσθεὶς τὴν ἐκτροπήν] ΟἿ. Lege.3, 685 a: νῦν οὖν δὴ τοσοῦ- Tov πλεονεκτοῦμεν τῇ πλάνῃ τοῦ λόγου. οἷον τόκον] “ΒΥ way of in- terest.” Cf. Rep.6, 507 ἃ: βου- λοίμην ἄν, εἶπον, ἐμέ τε δύνασθαι ἀποδοῦναι καὶ ὑμᾶς κομίσασθαι, ἀλλὰ μὴ ὥσπερ νῦν τοὺς τόκους μόνον. τοῦτον δὲ δὴ οὖν τὸν τόκον τε καὶ ἔκγονον αὐτοῦ τοῦ ἀγαθοῦ κομίσασθε. εὐλαβεῖσθε μέντοι, μή πῃ ἐξαπατήσω ὑμᾶς, κίβδηλον ἀπο- διδοὺς τὸν λόγον τοῦ τόκου. ava- πληρώσας αὐτόν 80. τὸν λόγον. “Having given the tale in full.” Cf. Symp. 188 6: εἴ τι ἐξέλιπον, ἀναπληρῶσαι. The “shorter path” might have seemed too bare if given alone. 7. Φέρε δὴ καὶ Evveipoper] “ Come, now let us proceed to link together.” Cf. Soph. 224 d: ἴθι viv συναγάγωμεν αὐτό. For the idiomatic καὶ, cf. Soph. Aj. 803: εἴ τῳ καὶ λογίζεσθαι σχολή. 8. τὸν λόγον τοῦ ὀνόματος | “ The definition of the name.” The words are emphatically repeated in order to fami- liarize the distinction between λόγος and ὄνομα. Cf. Soph. 218 c: det δὲ det παντὸς πέρι τὸ πρᾶγμα αὐτὸ μᾶλλον διὰ λόγων ἢ τοὔνομα μόνον συνομολογή- σασθαι χωρὶς λόγου. 12. ἀπεικασθὲν] “ Having been illustrated by an analogy :” viz. that of the αὐτοπώλεις. Supr. 260 6: ἢ βούλει, καθάπερ εἰκά- Copev νῦν δή, καὶ τοὔνομα παρεικά- Cf. Soph. 221 b: ἀπ’ αὐτῆς τῆς πράξεως ἀφομοιωθὲν τοὔνομα. σωμεν. ΕΣ 2 Land-ani- malsshould have been first divided into biped and quad- ruped : then bipeds into fledged and naked. And, when man had been thus distin- guished as the bipes implume, the States- man, as the man-herd, should have been en- trusted with the reins of govern- ment. The argu- ment, hav- ing been amplified by this addition, is recapi- tulated. 90 Ν / > ‘ > ’, τὸ μοριον αὐὑτεπιτακτικὸν ἐρρηθη. ΠΛΑΤΩΝΟΣ ζωοτροφικὴ δὲ 7 > “ » Ν / “ “ παλιν αὐτεπιτακτιΚὴς οὐ TO σμικρότατον τῶν γενῶν > - 5 ͵ ἀπεσχίζετο᾽ καὶ ζωοτροφικῆς εἶδος ἀγελαιοτροφικόν, > tal > 3 ς / al Ν ἀγελαιοτροφικοῦ δ᾽ αὖ πεζονομικόν. τοῦ δὲ πεζονο- fol , > / a / / 5MLKOU μάλιστα ἀπετέμνετο τέχνη τῆς ἀκεράτου φυ- ΄, ΄ > 3 x / > 35 σεως θ ΕἸΤΙΚΉ. ΤτΤαυτῆς ὃ aU τὸ μεροὸς Οὐκ ἐλαττον yy 1 jee “ / > lal Δ » vA L PN τριπλοῦν συμπλέκειν ἀναγκαῖον, ἂν εἰς ἐν τις AUTO yy va) “ / “" 3 / ὄνομα ξυναγαγεῖν βουληθῇ, γενέσεως *apixTov vopev- Week 5 / / TIKYY™ ἐπιστήμην προσαγορεύων. ἈΝ > ’ ἈΝ / TO δ᾽ ἀπὸ τούτου πο “ sea / Ol: ὃ 7 » θ Ἀ ΕΣ τμὴμα, ἐπὶ ποιμνῃ ὀίποὸι μερος ἀνθρωπονομικον ETL \ / a 3 5 3, “ λειφθὲν μόνον, τοῦτ᾽ αὐτό ἐστιν ἤδη τὸ ζητηθέν, ἅμα \ BIN \ N , βασιλικὸν Tavto κληθεν καὶ πολιτικον. NE. ΣΏΩ. Παντάπασι μὲν οὖν. EE. ἾΑρά γ᾽, ὦ Σώκρατες, ἀληθῶς ἡμῖν τοῦτο, 4. ἀγελαιοτροφικοῦ δ᾽ αὖ πεζονομικόν] Vid. supr. 264 6. The gregarious were first di- vided into land and water ani- mals, and then land animals into fledged and unfledged, to which latter the word πεζὸν was applied. These two steps are here remembered as one only: the second of the two distinctions being dropped, and the word πεζὸν being under- stood to mean “on land.” This confirms what has been said above in the note on p. 266 d. 6. οὐκ ἕλαττον τριπλοῦν] This is the reading of ten MSS., including the best, and is re- presented in the version of Ficinus, who probably joimed TO μέρος οὐκ ἔλαττον (ὄν) (“ par- tem nequaquam minorem.” Cf. supr. ov τὸ σμικρότατον τῶν γε- νῶν), which, however, is in- consistent with the context, and hardly grammatical. It seems most probable that we have here an unusual construc- tion, of which another instance occurs in Legg. 12, 956 e: ὑφὴν δὲ μὴ πλέον ἔργον γυναικὸς μιᾶς ἔμμηνον, where there is no difference of reading. Cf. supr. 265 c. -Three MSS, 22%, have τριπλοῦ, which Stallbaum adopts. 8. For γενέσεως, οἵ. supr. 261 d, infr. 271 a. MSS. μικτοῦ νομευτικῆς. The correction is due to Boeckh and Heindorf. 10. ἐπὶ ποίμνῃ δίποδι] This is the point where the two ways meet. “ The art of man- herding being the only portion left which has to do with bipeds.” II. ἅμα---πολιτικόν] Accord- ing to what was said at first : 259 6. ΠΟΛΙΡΙΚΟΣ. Le γμενον ; NE. >Q. To ποῖον δή ; or oO ( | 7 \ an 7 “ > \ \ 267. καθαπερ συ νυν εἰρηκᾶας, Οὐτῶς EOTL καὶ πέτρα- Ν , « a a ‘ SE. To παντάπασιν ἱκανῶς εἰρῆσθαι τὸ mpo- But it is not really at an end. / Ἂ a \ / ε / τεθέν. ἢ τοῦτ᾽ αὐτὸ Kal μάλιστα ἡ ζήτησις ἐλλείπει, 5 Ν \ / > va) / > \ 7 To Tov λόγον εἰρῆσθαι μέν πως, οὐ μὴν παντάπασί 5 / ye τελεως ἀπειργάσθαι ; NE. >Q. [Ids εἶπες ; μ- 5 \ cr ΄, na?) Da n BE. Eyo νῷν πειράσομαι τοῦτ᾽ αὐτο, ὃ διανοοῦ - a 7 a A μαι νῦν ἔτι μᾶλλον δηλῶσαι. NE. ΣΏ. Λέγοις av. EE. Οὐκοῦν τῶν νομευτικῶν ἡμῖν πολλῶν φανει- a 1) a / 3 « Ν cal σῶν ἄρτι τεχνῶν μία τις ἣν ἡ πολιτικὴ καὶ μιᾶς δ > / 5 / τινος ἀγέλης επιμέλεια ; ΝΕ. ΣΩ. Nai. ΞΕ). Ταύτην δέ ye διώριζεν ὁ λόγος οὐχ ἵππων 75) 3, ΄ εἶναι τροφὸν οὐδ᾽ ἄλλων θηρίων, ἀλλ᾽ ἀνθρώπων Ν κοινοτροφικὴν ἐπιστήμην. NE. 2Q. Οὕτως. I. καθάπερ σὺ νῦν εἴρηκας} Se. παντάπασι. Cf. Soph. 218 a. “ Have we really (καὶ) done as you say ?” 4. τὸ προτεθὲν) Cf. Soph. 218 e: τί δῆτα προταξαίμεθ᾽ ἄν. 5. ἢ τοῦτ᾽ αὐτὸ---ἀπειργάσθαι] “Or is it in this very respect that our inquiry is especially defective, that the definition has in a way been given, but still has not entirely received final completion?” Cf. infr. 277 Ὁ : ἀτεχνῶς ὁ λόγος ἡμῖν ὥσπερ ζῶον---τὴν----ἐνάργειαν οὐκ ἀπειληφέναι πω. 9. νῷν] Dialectic makes the subject of inquiry clearer to both the minds which are engaged. πειράσομαι τοῦτ᾽ αὐτὸ “1 will endeavour to do this very thing, to make my meaning at this moment clearer for us both.” 1.6. I will endeavour to give my present thought, what I desiderate for the main argu- ment, a complete expression. 7: οὐδ᾽ ἄλλων θηρίων] He falls back into the common parlance for want of a col- lective word to express “ ani- mals other than man.” There is less danger in this, now that the requisite distinctions have been made. 10 For, when the king is designated as the Man- herd, it must not be forgot- ten that he is unlike other herdsmen in this, that he is not alone in feeding or in tending his flock, but has many com- petitors, such as the merchant, husband- man, baker, gymnast, physician. 38 — τῶν βασιλέων θεασώμεθα. NE. ΣΏΩ. Τὸ ποῖον ; ΠΛΑΤΩ͂ΝΟΣ EE. Εἴ τις τῶν ἄλλων τῳ, τέχνης ἄλλης ὄνομα yy ‘al “ aes, 4“. a Ν Ν δέχων, Kown τῆς ἀγέλης ξύντροφος εἰναι φησὶ καὶ προσποιεῖται. NE. ΣΩ. Πῶς φής; πη ἢ Οἱ ε ᾿, Ν Ν Ν Ν μ-... (ον οἱ ἐμπόοροι Και γεώργοι Και σιτουργοι ’ὔ ἣν Ἂς 7 Ν a πάντες, καὶ πρὸς τούτοις γυμνασταὶ καὶ TO TOV oy a 7 a ΕῚ “ ΄σ Ν \ [} / ιοἰατρῶν γένος, oia@ oT τοῖς περὶ τὰ ἀνθρώπινα a By ‘ > / / νομεῦσιν, ovs πολιτικοὺς ἐκαλέσαμεν, παντάπασι a λό ὃ 7 5 ΕΝ - , « ΄σ 26 τῷ λόγῳ OlapuaxowT ἂν οὗτοι συμπαντες, WS σφεῖς Ρ. 268 I. Τὸ δὴ τῶν νυμέων] It has been assumed that the king is a herdsman of men, but it is now found necessary to distin- guish the king from the herds- man. In this curious form the imperfect conditions of human government are indicated. πάντων] 1.6. All beside the king. 4. Et tis τῶν ἄλλων τῳ] This reading, which has been pre- served in three or four MSS, (τῷ B, τῷ AFH, τῷ corr. I), and would have been extremely probable if due only to conjec- ture, has been unaccountably overlooked. τὸ ἄλλης τέχνης ὄνομα, if not ἃ solecism, is very harsh Greek, while τὸ τῆς ἄλλης τ. (SY), repeating the article, has no meaning. Stall- baum translates: “ Num quis reliquorum alius artis nomen gerens communiter gregis so- cium sese esse et dicat et si- mulat,” and adds, that the meaning of this ought to be plain to all from what follows. He probably means that the king, unlike other artists (it should be “‘ herdsmen”), is not distinguishable im some re- spects when thus defined from individuals amongst his flock (the physician, gymnast, etc.). He runs a race with them, as he did with the swine-herd. But this is an extremely vague way of putting what is presently explained. Whereas the above reading makes all clear, “I mean, whether in the case of any of the other herdsmen there be any one, bearing the name of a differ- ent art, who professes and pre- tends to share in common with him the tending of the herd.” 5. ξύντροφος is to be taken actively, as appears from τῆς τροφῆς ἐπιμελοῦντας below, and συννομῆς infr. 268 6. Cf. Legg. 8, 845 d: οὔτε yap γῆν οὔτε ἥλιον οὔτε πνεύματα, τοῖς ὕδασι σύντροφα τῶν ἐκ γῆς ἀναβλασταν- OVT@Y. rn ΄ , 3k 12. τῷ λόγῳ διαμάχοιντ᾽ ἂν] e i \ \ σε , 4 ‘ EE. To δὴ τῶν νομέων πάντων διάφορον καὶ τὸ p. 267 io λυ, ἐν τυ εν... . ΠΟΛΙΤΊΚΟΣ. oY 268. τῆς τροφῆς ἐπιμελοῦνται τῆς ἀνθρωπίνης, οὐ μόνον b > / 3 / > \ \ a a > / ἀγελαίων ἀνθρώπων ἀλλὰ καὶ τῆς τῶν ἀρχόντων ty lal αὑτῶν 5 NE. 2Q. Οὐκοῦν ὀρθῶς ἂν λέγοιεν ; EE. Ἴσως. καὶ τοῦτο μὲν ἐπισκεψόμεθα, "ὔ σ , , Ν ἰσμεν, ὅτι βουκόλῳ γε οὐδεὶς ἀμφισβητήσει περὶ / , lad Χ « τούτων οὐδενός, ἀλλ᾽ αὐτὸς τῆς ἀγέλης τροφὸς ὁ ’ SIN > , Cy ss - \ Ν βουῴορβος, αὐτὸς ἰατρός, αὐτὸς οἷον νυμφευτης καὶ Χ an ᾽ / / περὶ TOUS τῶν γιγνομένων τόκους Kal λοχείας μόνος » 7, “ lol ἐπιστήμων τῆς [LALEVTLKNS. γ᾽ / ~ Ν. ἔτι τοίνυν παιδιᾶς καὶ “ DUG ᾽ a A / , 7, μουσικὴς εφ σον αὐτοῦ τὰ θρέμματα φύσει perel- ληφεν, οὐκ ἄλλος κρείττων παραμυθεῖσθαι καὶ κηλῶν fy 7 3 , φ' Qn na / \ TPQAVVELV, META TE οργανων και ψιλῷ τῷ στόματι Τὴν “ cal 32) ΄ 7 τῆς αὑτοῦ ποίμνης ἄριστα μεταχειριζόμενος μουσικήν. Ν ἊΝ Ν a 2) / , € TN / καὶ δὴ καὶ τῶν ἄλλων πέρι νομέων ὃ αὕτος τρόπος. 7 γάρ: “Would contend in argument.” Cf. Theet. 160 e and note; and see λέγοιεν infra. (12.) οὗτοι σύμπαντες] Pleo- nastic resumption. 2. ἀγελαίων] Cf. supr. 260 ¢. 6. βουκόλῳ] So also Bodl., omitting τῷ. For aités—airis, ef. Rep. 2, 383 d. 9. τῶν γιγνομένων] “ The off- spring from time to time.” Cf. Thezet. 160 6: μὴ λάθη ἡμᾶς οὐκ ἄξιον ὃν τροφῆς τὸ γιγνόμενον. 10. ἔτι τοίνυν] “ Nay, even beyond the sphere of the arts which were mentioned as com- peting with the king.” παιδιᾶς καὶ povoixns| Music and the arts generally are iro- nically spoken of as a kind of child’s-play. Cf. Soph. 224 a, 234 a,b. The genitives are suggested by ἐπιστήμων, but as the sentence proceeds are un- derstood to be governed by μετείληφε. 11. αὐτοῦ τὰ θρέμματα] “ The objects of his care.” θρέμματα has the common meaning of “creatures” with an etymo- logical association from the verbal meaning, as the cattle are viewed in relation to the herdsman. 13. μετά τε ὀργάνων καὶ ψιλῷ τῷ στόματι) The meaning οἵ ψιλὸς depends on that to which it is opposed or correlative. In Legg. 2, 669 d, instrumental music without the voice is spoken of as WAH καθαρίσει τε καὶ αὐλήσει, and is strongly ob- jected to: while λόγοι ψιλοί in the same passage are words without metre, or prose. 15. τῶν ἄλλων πέρι νομέων] τόδε δὲ 5 Notso the ox-herd, who is suf- ficient in all things for his cattle, to supply their wants, to heal ΤΟ their sick- nesses, to attend them in the hour of marriage and of childbirth. He pro- vides also 15 for their amusement by rustic melodies, 4.0 ΠΛΑΤΏΝΟΣ sung or NE . ΣΩ. ᾿Ορθότατα. wl istled, a 3 Clas ε lad Pree t ΞΕ, Πῶς οὖν ἡμῖν ὁ λόγος ὀρθὸς φανεῖται καὶ pered to ΓΗ͂Ν ε Ν a ΄, “ ah / Ν the oaten ἀκέραιος 0 TTEPt TOU βασιλέως, οταν αὐτὸν νομεα και flute.” And ‘ 5, Ὁ ’ , a , » ἢ thus do all TPopov ἀγέλης ἀνθρωπίνης θῶμεν μόνον ἐκκρίνοντες herdsmen except the 5. μυρίων ἄλλων ἀμφισβητούντων ; king of > A men: who NE. 20. Οὐδαμώς. eae EE. Οὐκοῦν ὀρθῶς ὀλίγον ἔμπροσθεν ἐφοβήθη - be ade- « / \ / / tf quately de- μεν UTOTTTEVOQAVTES μὴ λέγοντες μεν τι τυγχάνοιμεν fined until we have parted off τοῦδ g , > , Ψ Ἀ \ 7 Ἐδὼ ΠΩ δι ἀκριβείας TOV πολιτικον, EWS GV τοὺς περικέχυ this crowd μέψρυς αὐτῷ καὶ τῆς συννομῆς αὐτῷ ἀντιποιουμένους of rivals, t ω and set περιελόντες καὶ χωρίσαντες ἀπ᾽ ἐκείνων καθαρὸν him forth alone and μόνον αὐτὸν ἀποφήνωμεν ; clear. For ᾿ a / > \ > 7 “ΠΑ σχῆμα βασιλικον, οὐ μην ἀπειργασμένοι γε εἰμὲν πῶ Either περὶ is pleonastic (ut p. 452 ἃ, of the physician, the seepe) or the genitive is to be gymnast, and the moneymaker repeated with τρόπος. disputing the claim of the 3. ἀκέραιος] “ Perfect, with- rhetor to be the agent of the out a flaw.” “ How is our greatest good for man. ὅτι σοι definition not impaired by the αὐτίκ᾽ ἂν παρασταῖεν κιτιλ. Also circumstance, —%” Cf. Rep. ib. 456. A still nearer parallel I, 342 Ὁ: ἀβλαβὴς καὶ ἀκέραιός occurs in the sixth book of ἐστιν ὀρθὴ οὖσα (ἡ τέχνη). the Republic, where the true 4. μόνον ἐκκρίνοντες] Cf. infr. philosophers are with difficulty 303 b: πασῶν yap ἐκείνην ye ἐκ- separated from the pretenders κριτέον. to philosophy. Cf. esp. Rep. 7. ὀλίγον ἔμπροσθεν] 207 ο,. 6,488 c: αὐτοὺς δὲ ἀεὶ τῷ vav- ἐφοβήθημεν ὑποπτεύσαντες] Cf. κλήρῳ περικεχύσθαι δεομένους Soph. 264 b. «tA. And see Ar. Pol. IV. 9. σχῆμα βασιλικὸν----δ ἀκρι- 12: Ἔστι δὲ οὐδὲ τοῦτο διορίσαι βείας τὸν πολιτικόν] “The form ῥάδιον, ποίας δεῖ καλεῖν ἀρχάς" ποὰλ- we described was indeed royal, λῶν γὰρ ἐπιστατῶν ἡ πολιτικὴ κοι- but did not accurately corre- νωνία δεῖται. spond with that of the States- 11. τῆς συννομῆς αὐτῷ ἀντιποι- man.” It appears presently ουμένους] αὐτῷ is partly the that we have been imagining ethical dative, and partly go- the Divine Shepherd of the verned by σὺν : “claiming to people as he existed in the share with him the task of golden age. tending the herd.” 10. περικεχυμένους] “ Crowd- 12. καθαρὸν---μόνον] “ Alone ing in upon him.” Compare and clear.’ Cf. infr. 303 ἃ, 6, the description in the Gorgias, 304 a. ΠΟΛΙΤΙΚΟΣ. 41] NE. ΣΏ. ᾿Ορθότατα μὲν οὖν. Leng) fa) / 53 ff See / > HE. Τοῦτο τοίνυν, ὦ Σώκρατες, ἡμῖν ποιητέον, εἰ ἡ μέλλ πὶ τῷ TEX υ ὃν λό μὴ μέλλοιμεν ἐπὶ τῷ τέλει καταισχῦναι τὸν λογον. NE. ΣΏ. ᾿Αλλὰ μὴν οὐδαμῶς τοῦτό γε δραστέον. EE. Πάλιν τοίνυν ἐξ ἄλλης ἀρχῆς δεῖ καθ᾽ ἑτέραν ς «ε Ν - 7 ὁδὸν πορευθηναί τινα. ΝΕ. >Q. Ποίαν δή: ΞΕ, Σχεδὸν παιδιὰν ἐγκερασαμένους" συχνῷ γὰρ μέρει δεῖ μεγάλου μύθου προσχρήσασθαι, καὶ τὸ Ni / , > va / / ΣΌΣ My λοιπὸν On, καθάπερ ἐν τοῖς πρόσθεν, μέρος ἀεὶ μέρους » / $) Δ) yy > lal Ν / ἀφαιρουμένους ἐπ᾿ ἄκρον ἀφικνεῖσθαι τὸ ζητούμενον. ᾽ a / OUKOVY χρὴ: NE. 2Q. Πάνυ μὲν οὖν. 2. εἰ μὴ μέλλοιμεν] “ Un- less we were to—as we feared we should if we neglected this.” The optative may be defended by supposing an attraction from the preceding optatives: the past tense being continued in thought. But it is equally pos- sible that this attraction (from τυγχάνοιμεν) may have influ- enced the scribes. Ast and Stallb. conj. μέλλομεν. 5. ἐξ ἄλλης ἀρχῆς----καθ᾽ ἕτέ- ραν ὁδόν] “ From a fresh start- ing-point, and by another road,” i.e. approaching the subject from a different side. The myth which follows, like the digression in the Theztetus, affords a rest after the thorny path which has been trodden, and also presents a deeper and more religious aspect of the question. Cf. Prot. 317 e: ἡ αὐτή μοι ἀρχή ἐστιν---ἥπερ ἄρτι. Arist. Eth: Nic. VII. 1, § 1: ἄλλην ποιησαμένους ἀρχήν. 8. συχνῷ γὰρ μέρει δεῖ μεγάλου μύθου προσχρ.] “ We must call in aid a large portion of a great cycle of mythology.” The fables quoted are viewed as fragments of a larger whole, some part of which is narrated, and part of what is narrated is applied to the purpose of the dialogue. Cf. Legg. 4,713 a: "Ap οὖν μύθῳ σμικρά γ᾽ ἔτι προσχρηστέον, εἰ μέλλομεν ἐμμελῶς πως δηλῶ- σαι τὸ νῦν ἐρωτώμενον ; το. μέρος---(ητούμενον͵] Com- pare Bacon, Nov. Org. II. 16: “Tum vero post rejectionem et exclusivam debitis modis factam, secundo loco, tanquam in fundo, manebit—forma affir- mativa, solida, et vera, et bene terminata.” 11. em ἄκρον ἀφικνεῖσθαι τὸ ¢.] “To arrive at the object of our search, as it were to the sum- mit of a steep ascent.” Cf. Rep. 7,515 6: διὰ τραχείας τῆς ἀναβάσεως καὶ ἀνάντους. Tue mountain-path (ἀτραπός) is kept with difficulty. G this pur- pose we must begin atresh, and travel by a different way: piec- ing our dis- cussion with an an- cient tale, before we resume our series of divisions, and con- tinue them until we reach the desired summit, Think yourself, then, a child again (youare not long past childhood), and listen to my tale. In the time of Atreus there hap- pened a strange portent, which shall happen again, 4.2 MAATQNOZ EE. ᾿Αλλὰ δὴ τῷ μύθῳ μου πάνυ πρόσεχε Tov p. 268 a) a / ε ΄ ΄ » ον» / νοῦν, καθάπερ οἱ παῖδες" πάντως ov πολλα εκφεύγεις \ yA παιδιὰς ἐτη. NE. 20. Λέγοις av. 4 τῶν πολλα 53 3, Va ΄ ’ / s SE. Ἦν τοίνυν καὶ ἔτι ἔσται τῶν πάλαι λεχθέν-- γ7. \ Ν \ ‘ τε ἄλλα καὶ On καὶ TO περὶ τὴν a x Vc "Atpews τε Kal Θυέστου λεχθεῖσαν ἔριν φάσμα. / 7 / +f / ἀκήκοας yap που Kal ἀπομημονεύεις ὃ φασι γενέ- σθαι τότε. 1. ᾿Αλλὰ δὴ τῷ μύθῳ----καθάπερ οἱ παῖδε] Cf. Soph. 224 d: μῦθον---παισὶν ὡς οὖσιν ἡμῖν. So the myth in the Pheedrus is said παιδιᾷ πεπαῖσθαι. Pheedr. 265 d. 2. πάντως---ἔτη)]ἡ ‘‘ You are not many years escaped from play.” Cf. supr. ἃ, παιδιάν. Ste- phanus (anticipated by a few MSS.) raised a doubt about the accent, and read παιδίας : in defence of which, ef. Legg. 9, 864 d: ἢ radia χρώμενος, οὐδέ πω τῶν τοιούτων διαφέρων. He has been followed by some editors, who translate παιδίας ἔτη “years of childhood.” Stallbaum justly replies that “years of child’s-play” would only be a more graceful way of saying the same thing. But he errs with the rest in joining παιδιᾶς with ἔτη, al- though he sees that with this rendering πολὺ is required instead of πολλά. The present is only one of numberless in- stances of hyperbaton which occur in these dialogues. Cf. Soph. 235 a: ὅτι τῶν τῆς παιδιᾶς μετεχόντων ἐστί τις μερῶν. The genitive in the MS. reading, παιδιᾶς, 15, however, ambiguous, and I have ventured to intro- duce the plural παιδιὰς, which exactly suits the context, and occurs several times in the Laws. Cf. Ar. Pol. VIII. 2: Ata τοῦτο δεῖ παιδιὰς εἰσάγεσθαι καιροφυλακοῦντας τὴν χρῆσιν, ὡς προσάγοντας φαρμακείας χάριν" ἄνεσις γὰρ ἡ τοιαύτη κίνησις τῆς ψυχῆς, καὶ διὰ τὴν ἡδονὴν ἀνά- παυσις. The word (in common with many others) has no ac- cent in the Bodleian MS. . Ἦν τοίνυν καὶ ἔτι ἔσται Cf. Thucyd. 1.22 : τῶν γενομένων ---καὶ----μελλόντων ποτὲ αὖθις ἔσ- εσθαι. “ There really happened, and shall hereafter happen again, like many other things of which ancient tradition has preserved the record, the por- tent which appeared in con- nexion with the legendary strife of Atreus with Thyestes.” The word ἦν, like “once upon a time,” marks the beginning of a tale. (Phedr. 237 a.) Cf. Tim. p. 22 ¢: πολλαὶ καὶ κατὰ πολλὰ φθοραὶ γεγόνασιν καὶ ἔτι εσονται. 7. φάσμα] “A sudden, un- expected sight.” Soph. Trach. 508: τετραόρου φάσμα ταύρου. Cf. Theet. 155 a: τί mor ἐστὶ ταῦτα Ta φάσματα ἐν ἡμῖν. LC ΄ ΄΄΄ρ.σπΠ1..........ο-..--΄ ................΄ ».ὄὕ........΄΄΄ὖὃὖΘ-... ............... a , 268. IIOAITIKOS. 43 NE, 2Q. To περὶ τῆς χρυσῆς ἀρνὸς ἴσως on- μεῖον paces. I. σημεῖον ἢ The form of the story to which Plato al- ludes appears to be the same which is given in one of the scholia on Eurip. Or. 988 : “ Hermes revenged the death of Myrtilus, his son, upon the Pelopidee, by causing a golden- fleeced lamb to be born amongst the flocks of Atreus. When his claim to the succession was disputed, Atreus promised to display the prodigy in proof that the gods favoured his right. Thyestes persuaded Aerope, the wife of Atreus, to give him the lamb: whence Atreus was in danger of losing the kingdom, had not Zeus, who upheld his claim, made the sun and the Pleiads to return from their setting to- wards their rising.” It is clear from this in what sense the lamb is called a “sign” or “token” (σημεῖον): and how the greater portent was given by the god “in bearing witness to Atreus” (μαρτυρήσας ὁ θεὸς Ἀτρεῖ). The notion that “the sun in horror turned his face from the scene” (also men- tioned in the Scholia to Eurip- ides, and frequently alluded to in the tragedies of Seneca : see also Hygin. Fab. 88, 258), although the most commonly received, appears to be one of several rationalizing interpre- tations of the fable. The lines of Euripides should be quoted here :— ὅθεν δόμοισι τοῖς ἐμοῖς MAO’ ἀρὰ πολύστονος Μαιάδος τόκου, τὸ χρυσόμαλλον ἀρνὸς ὅποτ᾽ ἐγένετο τέρας ὀλοὸν ὀλοὸν λόχευμα ποιμνίοισιν *Arpéos ἱπποβότα᾽ ὅθεν ἔρις τό τε πτερωτὸν ἁλίου μετέβαλεν ἅρμα τὰν πρὸς ἑσπέραν κέλευθον οὐρανοῦ μεθαρμόσασα μονόπωλον ἐς ἀῶ, ἑπταπόρου τε δρόμημα Πλειάδος εἰς ὁδὸν ἄλλαν Ζεὺς μεταβάλλει. See also ejusd. El. 734, where the truth of the same legend is questioned. The “ golden lamb” seems to have been known, with variations, to the author of the cyclic poem Alemeeonis and to Pherecydes (Schol. in Eur. loc. cit.), but it is difficult not to connect the other portent, as well as the revolution imagined by Plato, with the tale told to Herodotus by the Egyptian priests, “that in the course of the 11,340 years during which Egypt had been a monarchy, there had been no god in human shape ; but the sun had reversed his course four times, and that without any convulsions of na- ture in the land of Egypt. To which they added, that before the 11,340 years gods had ruled in Egypt, one of whom had been at each time supreme : of whom Orus, the son of Osiris, was the last.” Hdt. ΤΙ. ce. 142, 144. There is no ground, however, for sup- posing, as Boeckh (Philol. p. 118) at one time imagined, that the Egyptians had anticipated (through the study of their own monuments) the scientific theory of the precession of 2 (LD T do not mean the token of the golden lamb, but the return of the sun and stars from their setting to- wards their rising, whereby Zeus bore witness to the right of the king. You have heard also of the “ Saturnia regna :” 5 Io ΕΠ ZE. Οὐδαμῶς, ἀλλὰ τὸ περὶ τῆς μεταβολῆς δύ- p. 469}} ΠΛΑΤΩΝΟΣ ᾽ὔ Ν » lal « / A a » A σεώς TE καὶ ἀνατολῆς ἡλίου καὶ τῶν ἄλλων GaOTPOV, « Ἵ, “ \ > / “-“ > - ΄ ᾿, ὡς apa ὅθεν μεν ἀνατέλλει νῦν, εἰς τοῦτον TOTE TOV / / 7 ™ ὟΝ / / A Ν τόπον ἐδύετο, ἀνέτελλε δ᾽ ἐκ τοῦ ἐναντίου, τότε δὲ δὴ / yy c \ > - / > Ν “ιν γιὰ μαρτυρῆσας ἄρα ὁ θεὸς Ατρεῖ μετέβαλεν αὑτὸ emt TO νῦν σχῆμα. ΝΕ. ΣΏ. Λέγεται γὰρ οὖν δὴ καὶ τοῦτο. EE. Καὶ μὴν αὖ καὶ τήν γε βασιλείαν ἣν ἦρξε Κρόνος πολλῶν ἀκηκόαμεν. NE. ΣΩ. Πλείστων μὲν οὖν. ΞῈ. Τί δὲ; τὸ τοὺς ἔμπροσθεν φύεσθαι γηγενεῖς καὶ μὴ ἐξ ἀλλήλων γεννᾶσθαι ; the equinoxes. The reason advanced by Plato himself may possibly have given rise to the fancy in the first instance. «ς All that is visible must suffer change.” Compare Seneca, Ep. 71. § 11: “Quid enim muta- tionis periculo exceptum ? Non terra, non ccelum, non totus hic rerum omnium contextus, quamvis Deo agente ducatur. Non semper tenebit hune or- dinem, sed illum ex hoc cursu aliquis dies dejiciet.” (2.) φράζει] “ Your words import, perchance, the token which depended on the golden lamb.” 2. τῶν ἄλλων ἄστρων] The Pleiades are mentioned in the story. 3. ὡς ἄρα---τὸ νῦν σχῆμα) Plato here improves upon the original legend, in which the sun only changed his course for a single day. 5. αὐτὸ] The rising and set- ting of the sun and stars con- sidered as one phenomenon. 8. Καὶ μὴν αὖ As in the Theetetus three different theories, so here three distinct fables are woven together. ἣν ἦρξε Kpovos] Familiar to the Greek mind from the poem of Hesiod, perhaps also from the Orphic hymns, and celebrated in the festival of the Kpoua. The linesfrom the‘ W orks and Days’ seem to have been present to Plato’s mind, r11- 122: of μὲν ἐπὶ Κρόνου ἦσαν, ὅτ᾽ οὐρανῷ ἐμβασίλευεν" [ ὡς δὲ θεοὶ ζώεσκον, ἀκηδέα θυμὸν ἔχοντες, | νόσφιν ἄτερ τε πόνων καὶ οἰζύος" οὐδέ τι δειλὸν | γῆρας ἐπῆν, αἰεὶ δὲ πόδας καὶ χεῖρας ὁμοῖοι | τέρποντ᾽ ἐν θαλίῃσι, κακῶν ἔκτοσθεν ἁπάν- tov’ | θνῆσκον δ᾽ ὡς ὕπνῳ δεδμη- μένοι: ἐσθλὰ δὲ πάντα | τοῖσιν ἔην" κάρπον δ᾽ ἔφερε ζείδωρος ἄρουρα | αὐτομάτη πολλόν τε καὶ ἄφθονον" οἱ δ᾽ ἐθελημοὶ ἥσυχοι ἔργα νέ- μοντο σὺν ἐσθλοῖσιν πολέεσσιν" | αὐτὰρ ἐπειδὴ τοῦτο γένος κατὰ γαῖα κάλυψεν, τοὶ μὲν δαίμονές εἰσι Διὸς μεγάλου διὰ βουλὰς, | ἐσθλοὶ ἐπιχθόνιοι, φύλακες θνη- τῶν ἀνθρώπων. ΤΙ, τοὺς ἔμπροσθεν φύεσθαι γη- | NE eee 269. ΠΟΛΙΤΙΚΟΣ. NE. ΣΩ. Καὶ τοῦτο ἕν τῶν πάλαι λεχθέντων. ΞῈ an / » \ , > > ΄σ ΜΞ Εἰ. Ταῦτα τοίνυν ἐστι μεν ξύμπαντα εκ TAUTOU i Χ / “ / \ / yy πάθους, καὶ σρρὸος TOUVTOLS ETEPA μυριὰ και TOUTWV ETL 6 / ὃ Ν δὲ / AnO \ Ν » ω αυμαστοτερα, OLA δὲ χρόνου πληθος τὰ μεν αὐτῶν > id \ \ / 5) Ν “ ἀπέσβηκε, τὰ δὲ διεσπαρμένα εἴρηται χωρὶς ἕκαστα ξ > / ἃ a / 7 Ἀ Ψ ἀπ᾿ ἀλλήλων. ὃ δ᾽ ἐστὶ πᾶσι τούτοις αἴτιον τὸ παά- 5] a \ Ν ᾽ Χ “ θος, οὐδεὶς εἴρηκε, νῦν δὲ δὴ λεκτέον" εἰς γὰρ τὴν τοῦ βασιλέως ἀπόδειξιν πρέψει ῥηθέν. NE. ΣΏ. Καλλιστ᾽ εἶπες, καὶ λέγε μηδὲν ἐλλεί- σῶν. μα > 7 »y XN \ a / \ \ SiN mE. “Akovois av. τὸ yap πᾶν TOOE TOTE μὲν AUTOS ε \ πὸ 1 ςς a ΚΣ ὁ θεὸς ξυμποδηγεῖ πορευόμενον καὶ συγκυκλεῖ, τοτὲ ὃ yeveis| “ That the earlier race of men had their generation from Earth.” Plato is fond of this no- tion, which, as usual, he colours variously with his own imagina- tion. Cf.Symp.190b, r91¢; Rep. 3,414 ; Soph. 248 c; Prot.320¢; Tim. 23 e; Critias toge. The fable spoke simply of earth-born men. Plato finds in this a hint for his “ Phoenician” tale of an earlier and more perfect mode of generation. He seems to blend together Hesiod’s children of the earth and the army of Cadmus. See also Ar. Pol. 1.5: τοὺς πρώτους, εἴτε γηγενεῖς ἦσαν, εἴτε ἐκ φθορᾶς τινὸς ἐσώθησαν. 2. ἐκ ταὐτοῦ πάθους] “ These all arise out of one and the same occurrence” (viz. the reversal of the motion of the Cosmos). 4. διὰ δὲ χρόνου πλῆθος] Com- pare the way in which proba- bility is given to the myth of Atlantis in Tim. 21 d: διὰ δὲ χρόνον καὶ φθορὰν τῶν ἐργασαμέ- νων οὐ διήρκεσε δεῦρο ὁ λόγος. 5. διεσπαρμένα! As in the case of the three or four fables to which allusion is made. 6. τὸ πάθος] The article is used because of ταὐτοῦ πάθους preceding. 8. πρέψει ῥηθέν] “The tell- ing will be finely suited to our object of displaying the nature of the king.” 11. τὸ --- πᾶν τόδε] “ This universe.” As in Tim. 29 6: γένεσιν kal τὸ πᾶν τόδε. αὐτὸς ὁ θεό] The mono- theism of this passage. 15 more express than that of the Ti- meus. (Cf. infr. 271 ἃ.) Or the article may be accounted for by supposing the Timzeus already written. 12. ξυμποδηγεῖι | The word ποδηγῶ (to guide) occurs only here and in Legg. το, 899 a (of the spirit which determines the motion of the sun). ξυμ- ποδηγεῖ πορευόμενον καὶ συγκυκλεῖ = “assists with his guidance as it moves and helps to roll the circling sphere.” The universe has an independent principle of motion, which, however, during the better cycle, is di- 10 and, once more, how there were giants in old days, the off- spring of the Earth. These scat- tered frag- ments of tradition arise from one and the same circum- stance. The uni- verse is at one time turned by God, but at certain periods is relinquish- ed by him, and turns itself in the opposite direction. For none but the most Divine things are without change. But the universe, being vi- sible, is of a lower 40 ΠΛΑΤΏΩΏΝΟΣ 39 A “ ΄ ,ὔ ΄- / > “ f ἀνῆκεν, ὅταν αἱ περίοδοι τοῦ προσήκοντος αὐτῷ μέ- P- 264), J / A / Ν \ ΄ > / τρον εἰληήφωσιν ἤδη χρόνου, TO δὲ πάλιν αὐτόματον ᾽ > / ΄ σι » Ν ΄ ᾿ εἰς TAVAVTLA περιαγεται, ζῶον ὃν καὶ φρονησιν εἰλη- Ν > 4 ΄ ite. 9. Δ x lal \ χοὸς εκ του συναρμοσᾶντος AUTO KAT αρχᾶς. TOUTO δὲ / γέγονεν. » “ Ν » , ἊἋ SOF, ὃ \ iO ’ , ΄ JA 5 AUTO, TO QGVATTAALVY LEVAL, OLA TO ἐξ αναγκὴς ἐμφυτον NE. ΣΏΩ. Διὰ τὸ ποῖον δή: —_ \ \ SIN \ ε , y 3. νᾶ . ΞΕ. To κατὰ ταῦτα καὶ ὡσαύτως ἐχειν ἀεὶ καὶ θυ Ἂν 5 ἴω ΄ 7 / ΄ TQUTOV εἰναι TOLS TTAVTWV θειοτάτοις TPOONKEL μονοῖς, Lk \ / > / “ 7 A A > ιοσώματος δὲ φύσις ov ταύτης τῆς τάξεως. ὃν δὲ οὐ- ἈΝ Ν / ’ ΄ ΄σ \ pavov Kal κόσμον ἐπωνομάκαμεν, πολλῶν μὲν καὶ U Ν a / / XN μακαρίων παρὰ τοῦ γεννήσαντος μετείληφεν, ἀτὰρ 3 On 7 / Ν ΄ 06 DS ουν ἡ KEKOLYMV7)KE γε και σωμάτος. OUVEV αὐτῷ με rected and impelled by God. Cf. the interpretation of Hera- clitus by Ain. Gaz. (quoted by Lassalle, I. 124) : ᾿Επεὶ κάματος αὐτῇ (τῇ ψυχῇ) τῷ δημιουργῷ συνέπεσθαι καὶ ἄνω μετὰ τοῦ θεοῦ τόδε τὸ πᾶν συμπεριπολεῖν καὶ ὑπ᾽ ἐκείνου τετάχθαι καὶ ἄρχεσθαι, διὰ τοῦτο τῇ τοῦ ἠρεμεῖν ἐπιθυμίᾳ καὶ ἀρχῆς ἐλπίδι κάτω φησὶ τὴν Ψυχὴν φέρεσθαι. 1. ἀνῆκεν] The poetical aor- ist, used because a point of time is spoken of. Cf. Theeet. 150 C: μαιεύεσθαι pe ὁ θεὸς ἀναγκάζει, γεννᾷν δὲ ἀπεκώλυσεν. ὅταν ---- χρόνου] “ When the number of revolutions which make up the time appointed for the world have now reached their consummation.” Note the hyperbaton of χρόνου, and compare the “number of the state” in Rep. 8, 546, esp. the words ὅταν περιτροπαὶ ἑκάστοις κύκλων περιφορὰς ξυνάπτωσι. 2. τὸ de] Se. τὸ πᾶν τόδε. 3. ζῶον ὃν) This is added to explain αὐτόματον. Compare Tim. 30 b: νοῦν μὲν ἐν ψυχῆ, ψυχὴν δὲ ἐν σώματι ξυνιστὰς τὸ πᾶν ξυνετεκταίνετο — οὕτως οὖν δὴ --- δεῖ λέγειν τόνδε τὸν κόσμον ζῶον ἔμψυχον ἔννουν τε τῇ ἀλη- θείᾳ διὰ τὴν τοῦ θεοῦ γενέσθαι πρόνοιαν. καὶ φρόνησιν | Cf. Soph.248 6: μηδὲ ὧῆν αὐτὸ μηδὲ φρονεῖν ; 10. οὐ---τάξεως] “Is of ἃ dif- ferent order.” Cf. Phileb. 49 ec: ἡ δὲ ἀσθενὴς (ἄγνοια) ἡμῖν τὴν τῶν γελοίων ἡμῖν εἴληχε τάξιν τε καὶ φύσιν. οὐρανὸν καὶ κόσμον] Cf. Pheedr. 2456: πάντα τε οὐρανὸν πᾶσάν τε γένεσιν. 12. παρὰ τοῦ γεννήσαντος) Cf. Tim. 37 6: 6 γεννήσας πατήρ. ἀτὰρ οὖν---σώματος)])͵ In the Timeus also the body is the source of all imperfection, 86 b: τὰ δὲ περὶ ψυχὴν (νυσήματα) διὰ σώματος ἕξιν τοιάδε. 13. καὶ σώματος] Cf. Tim. 32 €: σωματοειδὲς δὲ δὴ---δεῖ τὸ γενόμενον εἶναι. | ΠΟΛΙΤΙΚΟΣ. 47 > , \ \ , ‘ = 69. ταβολῆς ἀμοίρῳ γίγνεσθαι διὰ παντὸς ἀδύνατον, κατὰ grade. Yet py ; act = Ε priest (ae β , « it has the δυναμίν γε μὴν 0 τι μάλιστα ἐν τῷ αὐτῷ κατὰ ταὐτὰ least possi e change , \ m \ ‘ , y “ 5 μίαν φορὰν κινεῖται" διὸ τὴν ἀνακύκλησιν εἴληχεν, ὃ of motion, , a A , , when t 1e€ τι σμικροτάτην τῆς Ταὑτοῦ κινήσεως παράλλαξιν. direction Ὁ ΟΝ VRE \ , ann \ 3 4 . of Its rota- αὐτὸ δὲ ἑαυτὸ στρέφειν ἀεὶ σχεδὸν οὐδενὶ δυνατὸν 5 tion is το- \ a = , 5 , ε , versed. πλὴν TO TOV κινούμενων αὖ πάντων ἡγουμένῳ. Kl- Nowitcan- ye τῷ ! ΐ I. κατὰ δύναμίν γε μὴν---κινεῖ- ται] Compare Laws 7, 821 ¢, d, where it is said to be impious to attribute an inconstant mo- tion to the sun, moon, and planets. So in the Timzus (p. 37) Time is created in order to bring the creature as near as possible to the Eter- nal archetype. 3. διὸ ---- παράλλαξιν͵] Only the most Divine things can be always alike. The Uni- verse, having a body, must suffer change. It moves as nearly as possible always in the same way (but cannot attain perfectly even to this): “ Where- fore it hath allotted to it a reverse revolution, as the least possible alteration of its mo- tion.” The reasoning would be more complete if for αὑτοῦ we might read ταὐτοῦ. Cf. Tim. 36 d, 39b,¢. ἀνακύκλησιν = τὸ ἀνάπα- λιν ἰέναι supr. This meaning is required by the context here and in Rep. το, 617 b, ἐπανακυ- κλούμενον : Tim. 40 ὁ, ἐπανακυ- κλήσεις : Lb. 37 a, ἀνακυκλουμένη, in all which places a retrograde motion isin question. The force of the preposition seems to have been lost in the use of the word by later writers. A homely il- lustration of Plato’s meaning may be taken from the game of cup and ball: in which, in order to ensure a steady mo- tion, the ball is spun from right to left, and the player waits until it has begun to re- volye in the opposite direc- tion. The resilience of the string, which is the cause of this, would correspond to the blind impulse (ξύμφυτος ἐπι- θυμία) which makes the uni- verse rebound. 6. τῶν κινουμένων αὖ πάντων ἡγουμένῳ] The language of Plato respecting the relation of the individual to the uni- versal soul is not consistent. In the Timeeus the former is a “particle” taken from the latter. In the Republic and Phedrus, and less clearly in the Pheedo, the individual per- sonality of each soul is re- cognized. Yet in the passage of the Pheedrus there are some expressions in which the na- ture of the soul is generalized. Cf. also Legg. 10, 894 6: τῶν δὴ δέκα μάλιστα ἡμῖν κινήσεων τίν ἂν προκρίναιμεν ὀρθότατα πασῶν ἐρρωμενεστάτην τε εἶναι καὶ πρακτικὴν διαφερόντως ; Μυ- ρίῳ ἀνάγκη που διαφέρειν τὴν αὐτὴν αὑτὴν δυναμένην κινεῖν. Ib. 12, 966e: ὃ περὶ τὴν ψυχὴν ἐλέγομεν, ὡς πρεσβύτατον τε καὶ θείοτατόν ἐστι πάντων ὧν κίνησις γένεσιν παραλαβοῦσα ἀέναον οὐ- σίαν ἐπόρισεν. αὖ implies a contrast be- tween the divinest of all things not move itself al- ways: for that is the privilege of mind. Nor can mind ori- ginate opposite move- ments. Hence the universe is not always 48 - \ , \ \ ΕΣ 3 Shas , > “ νεῖν δὲ τούτῳ τοτὲ μὲν ἄλλως, αὖθις δὲ ἐναντίως οὐ Ρ. 2 ITAATQNOZ / > / \ / ‘\ U 4 92% θέμις. ἐκ πάντων δὴ τούτων τὸν KOT LOY μήτε αὐτὸν \ , 7 ε Ν Des, Nes 9 ὦ 9 ey Et Ν χρὴ φάναι στρέφειν ἑαυτὸν ἀεί, μήτ᾽ αὖ ὅλον ἀεὶ ὑπο a / \ , / θεοῦ στρέφεσθαι διττὰς καὶ ἐναντίας περιαγωγάς, μήτ᾽ > , \ \ ~ ε nee) , / sav Ovo τινὲ θεὼ φρονοῦντε ἑαυτοῖς ἐναντία στρέφειν > / > ᾽ “ ᾽7 > / Ν / / \ auTov, ἀλλ, ὅπερ ἄρτι ἐρρήθη καὶ μόνον λοιπὸν, TOTE μὲν ὑπ᾽ ἄλλης συμποδηγεῖσθαι θείας αἰτίας, τὸ ζῇν ΄ 5 , Ν ΄ > / > πάλιν ἐπικτώμενον καὶ λαμβάνοντα ἀθανασίαν ἐπι- and the leader of all that is in motion. As the former alone can remain always the same, so the latter alone can revolve spontaneously for ever. The phraseology _ recals Pheedr. 245 6, where there is a similar appearance of demon- stration. See esp. the words ἀλλὰ καὶ τοῖς ἄλλοις ὅσα κινεῖται τοῦτο πηγὴ καὶ ἀρχὴ κινήσεως. A comparison of the above passages leaves little doubt that by the Leader of Motion here is meant Pure Soul in general, of which the Deity, who sustains the universe, is a particular example. ‘The doctrine of the multiplicity of independent souls (Rep. το, 611 a) is here left out of view. The argument may be thus stated. All that is bodily must suffer change. The Uni- verse suffers the least possible change (or “ diverges least from the motion of the same”) in revolving on an axis in one plane opposite ways alter- nately. But the Universe can- not always be the cause of its own motion: only Pure Soul moves spontaneously for ever. Nor can Soul be the cause of diverse and opposite motions. Hence the mighty fabric is not self-moved always, nor always moved by God: nor by two Gods alternately, for, as before stated, spirit cannot be op- posed to spirit. There re- mains only the case which has been given. 7. τὸ ζῆν πάλιν ἐπικτώμενον “ Receiving a new influx of life.” 8. λαμβάνοντα ἀθανασίαν ἐπι- σκευαστὴν | The world re- news her immortality, which she receives afresh from her Creator’s hand. ἐπισκευαστὴν = repaired, refitted. The word is omitted in Ast’s Lexi- con (edition of 1835). Cf. Legg. 5, 738 Ὁ: ot? ἂν καινὴν ἐξ ἀρχῆς τις ποιῇ οὔτ᾽ ἂν παλαιὰν διεφθαρμένην ἐπισκευάζηται (πό- λιν). The World grown old, like Milton’s hermit-soul, now «« Prunes her feathers and lets go her wings,” which, in following her own blind will, «Were all-to ruffled and some- times impaired.” ἀθανασίαν) Not merely ex- emption from death, but good- ness, the one immortal thing. Cf. Legg. 4, 713 €: dco ev ἡμῖν ἀθανασίας ἔνεστι, τούτῳ πει- θομένους. > AE ‘ »" ἀθανασίαν ---- παρὰ τοῦ δημι- ΠΟΛΙΤΊΚΟΣ. 49 | A \ a : -~ < Bs 270. σκευαστὴν παρὰ TOV δημιουργοῦ, τοτε 0, νεθῇ, > e Ν Ci ON 7 \ Ν > / ΄ δ Ot ἑαυτὸν αὐτὸν ἰέναι, κατὰ καιρὸν ἀφεθέντα τοιοῦτον - “ δὰ κι , \ / ὥστε ἀνάπαλιν πορεύεσθαι πολλὰς περιόδων μυρι- id \ Ν 7 Ἃ Ν > / SELLS adas διὰ TO μέγιστον ὃν καὶ ἰσορροπώτατον ἐπὶ 7 lad δ " σμικροτάτου βαῖνον ποδὸς ἰέναι. ουργοῦ] Here, as in Tim. 41 a, the universe is entirely de- pendent upon the Creator for immortality. The word δημι- ουργός in Plato is equivalent to 6 ξυνιστὰς, ὁ Evvappdoas, ὁ γεν- νήσας, and has only the faintest trace of the mystic solemnity with which it was afterwards invested. 2. dv ἑαυτὸν! Eusebius has ἑαυτοῦ, and the reading of the Bodleian (with Δ ΠῚ), δι éavrov eavtov (sic Bod].), perhaps indi- cates some confusion. But δι᾽ ἑαυτὸν, signifying that the world at such a time is the ultimate cause of his own motion, is not certainly wrong. Cf. Legg. ro, 903 6: μεταβάλλει---δι᾿ ἑαυτὴν ἢ δι ἑτέραν ψυχήν. κατὰ καιρὸν ἀφεθέντα τοιοῦ- τον] “Being let go at sucha favourable moment.” It is true that supposing the mo- tion equable, every moment would be, mechanically speak- ing, alike. But then other causes, besides those merely mechanical, are imagined. The σύμφυτος ἐπιθυμία is not a me- chanical cause. Compare the “opposite powers” of motion attributed in the Timzeus (38 d) to the circle of Mercury and Venus and that of the Sun. Two conditions, then, contri- bute to make possible the length of the succeeding period —the state of the innate im- pulse at the time at which the “engine is reversed,” and the shape and position of the whole mass. The redundant form of the sentence in which both these conditions are ex- pressed is characteristic of the later manner of Plato. Stall- baum has not chosen to ex- plain his objection to this way of taking the words. 3. πολλὰς περιόδων μυριάδας] “ Many times ten thousand re- volutions,” 1. 6. days, since the diurnal revolution is the one most naturally attributed to the whole Heaven. Cf. Theset. 153 C: ἕως μὲν ἂν ἡ περίφορὰ ἢ κινουμένη καὶ 6 ἥλιος. ‘Tim. 39 c: νὺξ μὲν οὖν ἡμέρα τε γέ- γονεν---ἡἧ τῆς μιᾶς καὶ φρονιμω- τάτης κυκλήσεως περίοδος. 4. ἰσορροπώτατον] Because it is the most perfect sphere. ἐπὶ σμικροτάτου βαῖνον πο- dds] Moving on the smallest pivot—in fact, a mathemati- cal point—in modern lan- guage, the celestial south pole. Like the Indian tortoise, the Universe has no surface on which to rest. The image of the top, used for another pur- pose in Rep. 4, 436 d (ὅταν ἐν τῷ αὐτῷ πήξαντες τὸ κέντρον περιφέρωνται), has probably sug- gested this expression. The Uni- verse is like a great humming- top when “sleeping.” Cf. Legg. 10, 893 d: καὶ τότε μὲν ἔστιν ὅτε βάσιν ἑνὸς κεκτημένα τινὸς κέντρου. *H self-moved: nor moved opposite ways, either by one Deity or more than one, 5 for mind cannot be opposed to mind, But, which alone re- mains, it is at one time guided by its Divine Author, and re- ceives from him a re- newal of life and im- mortality. And again, * being let go at the most au- spicious moment, it makes countless revolutions 50 ΠΛΑΤΩΝΟΣ ΝΕ. ΣΩ. Φαίνεταί γ᾽ οὖν δὴ καὶ μάλα εἰκότως p. 276 εἰρῆσθαι πάνθ᾽ ὅσα διελήλυθας. ΞῈ. Λογισάμενοι δὴ ξυννοήσωμεν τὸ πάθος ἐκ σι A ΄ ἃ / ” 3 “ τῶν νῦν λεχθέντων, ὃ πάντων ἔφαμεν εἶναι τῶν θαυ- NE. =Q. Τὸ ποῖον ; an 5») yA \ 5 \ ~ ? > / 5 μαστῶν αἴτιον. ἐστι yap οὖν δὴ TOUT αὐτο. \ “ \ \ \ > A an EE. To τὴν τοῦ παντὸς φορὰν τοτὲ μὲν ἐφ ἃ νῦν “ \ / κυκλεῖται φέρεσθαι, τοτὲ δ᾽ ἐπὶ τἀναντία. NE. ΣΏ. Πῶς δή; EE. Ταύτην τὴν μεταβολὴν ἡγεῖσθαι δεῖ τῶν περὶ Ν » Ν 7 A a 3 TOV OUPQVOV γιγνομένων τρόπων TIAGO WV εἰναι με- / / “2 γίστην καὶ τελεωτάτην τροπὴν. NE. ΣΩ. Ἔοικε γοῦν. I. μάλα εἰκότως] The Stranger has indeed spoken with an ap- pearance of artless simplicity well*calculated to impose on the imagination of youth. 3. ΔΛογισάμενοι δὴ] “ Let us, reasoning on what has now been said, try to comprehend, in all its bearings, the fact which we described as the cause of all the phenomena that have excited our wonder.” 7. φορὰν --- φέρεσθαι) CF. Theet. 153 d: ἡ περιφορὰ 7 κινουμένη. Lege. 10, 906 b: αἱ --- ᾳφῆμαί φασιν. 9. Πῶς 67;] Badh. “ Hee omnia adeo lucida explicata sunt, ut mireris cur Socrates etiamnum heereat, et per illa πῶς δὴ Yrespondeat. Neque vero Hospes dubitantem do- cere dignatur, sed ulterius pergit.” One point, however, was not made clear, namely, how the change of the direc- tion of revolution was the cause of the other two tradi- tions : and it is this which the Stranger (though beginning ἄν- wbéy ποθεν ἀπ᾽ ἀρχῆς) proceeds to explain. 10. τῶν περὶ τὸν οὐρανὸν γιγνο- μένων τροπῶν] The τροπὴ ἡλίου, or solstice, is the change in the apparent motion of the sun’s place on the horizon at rising and setting. Hom. Od. 0, 404 ; Plat. Lege. 12, 945 d. The word τροπὴ is here gene- ralized and extended so as to include every cardinal change in the celestial motions: in the same lofty spirit in which the Great Year (τέλεος ἐνιαυτὸς) is spoken of in the Timeeus, or as we speak of the year of Saturn or Uranus. The word seems to be used in the same general sense in Tim. 39 d: τῶν ἄστρων ὅσα bt οὐρανοῦ πο- ρευόμενα ἔσχε τροπάς. Compare also Ar. de Ceelo II. 14, § 1, who says that if the Earth has a double motion there must be τροπαὶ also of the fixed stars. b y’ *| | 270, IIOAITIKOS. 51 HE. Μεγίστας τοίνυν καὶ μεταβολὰς χρὴ νομίζειν / / o vad a a γίγνεσθαι τότε τοῖς ἐντὸς ἡμῖν οἰκοῦσιν αὐτοῦ. Ξ ͵ NE. 2Q. Καὶ τοῦτ᾽ εἰκός. HE. Μεταβολὰς δὲ μεγάλας καὶ πολλὰς καὶ παν- / / my) 7 \ val / Tolas συμφερομένας ap οὐκ ἴσμεν THY τῶν ζώων / “ a ’ / φύσιν ὅτι χαλεπῶς ἀνέχεται 5 NE. ΣΩ. Πώς δ᾽ ov; fn U / / HE. Φθοραὶ τοίνυν ἐξ ἀνάγκης τότε μέγισται , a 5, \ Ν a ξυμβαίνουσι τῶν τε ἄλλων ζώων, καὶ δὴ Kal TO TOV > ,ὕ ΄ὔ a ἢ ΄, \ \ , ἀνθρώπων γένος ὀλίγον τι περιλείπεται. περὶ δὲ τού- Ε / \ \ τους ἄλλα τε παθήματα πολλὰ Kai θαυμαστὰ καὶ \ / ΄ \ / ἈΝ ἐξ καινὰ ξυμπίπτει, μέγιστον δὲ τόδε καὶ ξυνεπόμενον lal a Ν ᾽ 7 7 “ e a 2. TH τοῦ παντὸς ἀνειλίζει, τότε ὅταν ἡ τῆς νῦν καθε- / / Ie στηκυίας ἐναντία γίγνηται τροπή. NE. ΣΩ. Τὸ ποῖον ; 2. τοῖς ἐντὸς ἡμῖν οἰκοῦσιν avrov| ‘This is one of the in- versions or alternations of words with which these dia- logues abound. 5. συμφερομένας] “ Coming on together,’ as in_ hostile array. Cf. Theet.152e: συμ- φερέσθων. Ib. 153 a: τοσοῦτον στρατόπεδον. “When sorrows come, they come not single spies, but in battalions.” 9. τῶν τε ἄλλων --- περιλεί- metal] The sentence returns to the indicative mood al- though redundant, because the last clause contains the prin- cipal statement. Cf. Thuc. VI. 32: ἐλέχθησαν τοιοίδε λόγοι ἀπό τε ἄλλων ---καὶ “Ἑρμοκράτης ὁ Ἕρμωνος- ἔλεγε τοιάδε. ΤΟ. τούτους] Sc. τοὺς τῶν ἀν- θρώπων περιλειπομένους. γένος om. pr. I. 11. ἀλλά τε παθήματα---μέγι- στον δὲ τόδε] Cf. Tim. 20 a: Τίμαιός τε---- Κριτίαν 5¢—, alib. 12. ξυμπίπτει] “ Coincide.” The meaning of év is promi- nent, as in ξυμφερομένους. Evverdpevov| Following the analogy of the world’s un- twisting. Consentaneous with the rebound and reverse mo- tion of the Great Whole. 13. ὅταν ἡ τῆς νῦν--- τροπή] τῆς νῦν καθεστηκυίας, 50. τροπῆς, which, like the plural τροπαῖς below, 271 6, signifies not only the “turn,” but the cycle of movement which follows. The double meaning of the English word “revolution” nearly cor- responds to this ambiguity of τροπή. ‘* When there occurs the transition to the cycle opposite to that in which we live.” En Ὁ I ο by itself, like a huge and per- fectly-ba- lanced top, revolving on the finest peg. This change is, as it were, the solstice of the great year. And this crown- ing change involves many lesser changes, destructive to the animal economy. Hence many crea- tures per- ish, and of mankind also but few are left. And on these few there passes a mighty change. As the movement of the world, so 52 ITAATQNO2 A ε , δ, 3 5 / EE. “Hv ἡλικίαν ἕκαστον εἶχε τῶν ζώων, αὕτη p. 270}: A \ ” ΄ / “ὦ 3 πρῶτον μεν €0T?) πάντων, καὶ ἐπαύσατο σαν OOOV nV Ν Ἀ > ΄ / / θνητὸν ἐπὶ TO γεραίτερον ἰδεῖν πορευόμενον, μεταβαλ- \ ΄ / - 4 Ν . λον δὲ πάλιν ἐπὶ τοὐναντίον οἷον νεώτερον καὶ ἅπα- / / “-“ \ / ΄ δλώτερον ἐφύετο. καὶ τῶν μὲν πρεσβυτέρων αἱ λευκαὶ 7 ἴω > 3 / ΄ Ν τρίχες ἐμελαίνοντο, τῶν δ᾽ αὖ γενειώντων αἱ παρειαὶ τ. ἡλικίαν ͵]Ὶ͵ ““ Condition, or appearance, in respect of youth or age.” Cf. Euthyd. 271 b: μάλα πολὺ — ἐπιδεδωκέναι μοι ἔδοξε kal—ov πολύ τι τὴν ἡλικίαν διαφέρειν Κριτοβούλου. This use of the word affords a point of transition to the meaning of ‘Ssize or “stature.” Cf. Hdt. AUB Ὁ; AVE Seite 2. ἐπαύσατο --- πορευόμενον | * All that is mortal ceases at such a time to advance towards amore ancient look.” τὸ yepai- τερον ἰδεῖν, “ that which is more aged to look upon.” Cf. Pheedr. 253 d: λευκὸς ἰδεῖν. Tim. 52 ἃ: παντοδαπὴν ---ἰδεῖν. Soph. Aid. Col. 327: δυσμορ᾽ ὁρᾷν. 4. οἷον νεώτερον] “ Younger to all appearance.” Badham conj. ἰόν, which is free from objection. But οἷον νεώτερον exactly expresses “younger in appearance, though not in years,’ and corresponds with γεραίτερον ἰδεῖν supr. The instance of οἷον with an adj., given by Passow, ai οἷον συνεχεῖς κινή- σεις, is from a late authority (Schol. Ap. Rh. 3, 1018). But the use is so closely analogous to other uses as hardly to need defence. Cf. infr. 277 ¢: τὴν--οἷον τοῖς φαρμάκοις καὶ τῇ συγκράσει τῶν χρωμάτων ἐνάρ- γειαν. 5. ἐφύετο] He proceeds as if he were narrating what hap- pened on one of these oceasions in former time—say at the be- ginning of the cycle preceding ours. Cf. εἶχε supr. ἃ. 6. yeverovrov| The form γενειάω is less distinctly incep- tive than γενειάσκω, which oc- curs, Symp. 180 dee the cheeks of bearded men grew smooth, and restored each man to his former bloom ; and the youth’s ‘ crescent nature’ grow- ing smooth, and dwindling day by day and night by night, returned, both in mind and body, to the character and likeness of infancy, and then began to vanish away, and presently was no more seen.” This process, which in any case seems to have been rapid, only occupied a few days where life had been sud- denly and violently extin- guished. These cases seem to be thought different from those of natural death: pro- bably because, in the latter, dissolution was imagined, as it had been more gradual, to be more complete; so that earth could at once be mixed with kindred earth. That Plato is fully aware of the lu- dicrous aspect of all this will be obvious to any one who com- pares the speech of Aristophanes in the Sympos., 190-193. The ΠΟΛΙΤΙΚΟΣ. 53 / ΄ὔ \ a “ Ὁ 270. λεαινομεναι πάλιν ἐπὶ τὴν παρελθοῦσαν ὠραν ἐκα- 1771. / a \ « Pa \ / στον καθίστασαν, τῶν δὲ ἡβώντων Ta σώματα λεαι- “ Ν > « / Ν , νομενὰα και σμικροτεέρα καθ ἡμερᾶαν και VUKTQ €K- 7 , / ἈΝ a A Ν στην γιγνόμενα πάλιν εἰς τὴν τοῦ νεογενοῦς παιδὸς ͵ > , ΄ \ \ ζ \ \ a φύσιν ἀπῇει, κατά TE THY ψυχὴν καὶ κατὰ TO σῶμα 5 > / N > > a yA / ἀφομοιούμενα᾽ τὸ δ᾽ ἐντεῦθεν On μαραινόμενα κο- ΄σ Ν ’ὔ lal iy μιδῇ τὸ πάμπαν ἐξηφανίζετο. τῶν δ᾽ ad βιαίως / > ΄σ ΄ / Ἂν A ΄ ἴω τελευτώντων ἐν τῷ τότε χρόνῳ τὸ τοῦ νεκροῦ σῶμα), 3 \ a 7 , \ 7, 57 > ταῦτα ταῦτα πάσχον παθήματα διὰ τάχους, ἀδηλον ἐν , / e / ὀλίγαις ἡμέραις διεφθείρετο. NE. 2Q. Γένεσις δὲ δὴ τίς ror’ ἦν, ὦ ξένε, Gov; Ν / / Δ ἴω καὶ τίνα τρόπον ἐξ ἀλλήλων ἐγεννῶντο ; a 53 / “ N \ > EE. Δῆλον, ὦ Σώκρατες, ὅτι TO μὲν ἐξ ἀλλήλων > 3 3 fa , / /, Ν \ \ οὐκ ἣν ἐν TH τότε φύσει γεννώμενον, TO δὲ δὴ γηγε- \ 5 , ΄ὔ ,ὕ 79 93 \ Mic ves εἶναι ποτε γένος λεχθέν, TOUT ἣν TO κατ ἐκεῖνον φθορὰ, which follows the great τροπὴ, has now been described, and we are next informed as to the mode in which the Earth replenishes herself. The existing generation being thus “compounded with dust,” the Earth, which had previously lain fallow, began to produce her crop of heroes. 6. ἀφομοιούμενα] Badham ingeniously conjectures ἀπο- pecovmeva. But the ellipse is easily borne. ἡ. τῶν τελευτώντων ---τὸ τοῦ νεκροῦ [σῶμα]}] For the redun- dant genitive with the change of number, cf. Phedo 62 a: οὐδέ ποτε τυγχάνει τῷ ἀνθρώπῳ --ἔστιν ὅτε καὶ οἷς, Where much needless difficulty has arisen. The notion of the backward eurrent being communicated to the process of animal life illustrates the ancient concep- tion of motion as including change. σῶμα om. Bodl. ΔΗ. 13. TO—e£ ἀλλήλων ---γεννώ- μενον] Sc. γένος, or perhaps, as sometimes happens, the ac- tion of the verb is made the subject of the passive voice. For this, cf. Soph. 221 a: τὸ —dvacrewpevov. In that case the concrete is put for the ab- stract — τὸ γεννώμενον for τὸ γεννᾶσθαι. 14. ἐν τῇ τότε φύσει] “ Had no place in the course οὗ na- ture which then obtained.” For a similar use of φύσις, cf. Pheedo 103 b: τὸ ἐν τῇ φύσει. τὸ - γηγενὲς εἶναί ποτε γενος λεχθὲν] “The earth-born race, of whose former existence we have heard.” 15. τοῦτ᾽ ἦν] “ Was this, was that which we have just hinted at and are now to describe.” 1.6. τὸ ἐν τῇ τότε φύσει γεννώμενον. the order of the ages of man, is reversed. And, at the time when the world re- turns under the Divine care, old age is done away, and men pass through maturity and youth to child- 10 hood and infancy, and so pass away. And in harmony with the same move- ment, the bodies of 15 those who slept in earth arise again. This was the giant brood, of whose last relics the memory has been preserved to us by those who grew up at the beginning of this pre- sent cycle. 54: TOV χρόνον ἐκ γῆς πάλιν ἀναστρεφόμενον, ἀπεμνὴ- p. 271) ITAATQNOZ / Ace vad ¢ / / σ΄“ / μονεύετο δὲ ὑπὸ TOV ἡμετέρων προγόνων TOV πρώτων, δ x / \ lal / ΄σ Ν tan οἱ τελευτώσῃ μὲν τῇ προτέρᾳ περιφορᾷ Tov ἑξῆς / / “ \ \ χρόνον ἐγειτόνουν, τῆσδε δὲ κατ᾽ ἀρχὰς ἐφύοντο" / \ - / > / , € la cal 5TOUT@Y yap οὗτοι κήρυκες ἐγένονθ᾽ ἡμῖν τῶν λόγων, A a « Ν lad > > “ > a Ν Ν οἱ νῦν ὑπὸ πολλῶν οὐκ ορθῶς ἀπιστοῦνται. TO yap ᾽ “ 5 \ lal / 7 ΄ ἐντεῦθεν, οἶμαι, χρὴ Evvvoelv. ἐχόμενον yap ἐστι τῷ Χ / 3. ΟΝ \ A XN "57 / > Tous πρεσβύτας ἐπὶ τὴν τοῦ παιδὸς ἰέναι φύσιν, εκ a , 5 ΄ Ns a ΄ τῶν τετελευτηκότων αὖ, κειμένων δὲ ἐν γῇ, πάλιν I. ἐκ γῆς πάλιν ἀναστρεφόμε- vov] The bodies which Earth has absorbed she gives forth again to be the habitations of other souls. It appears cer- tain from infr. 273 (however strange the conception) that the γηγενεῖς are born like the army of Cadmus, in full matu- rity, and then follow the stages which are here described: first attaining to early man- hood, then to youthful prime, and then to childhood, and so disappearing from the Earth : old age being literally un- known, as in the description of Hesiod. 3. mepipdpal _ Not “ period” but “revolution” = the time during which the Universe revolved in the former way. Cf. supr. a, τῇ τότε φύσει: infr. 274 6, Tov ἐκ τῆς νῦν περιφορᾶς καὶ γενέσεως βασιλέα. 4. ἐγειτόνουν] “ Were neigh- bours to” —i.e. next in point of time. Our first ancestors lived in the times immediately suc- ceeding the end of the former motion. ἔτι νεωστὶ τοῦ Διὸς τὴν ἀρχὴν ἔχοντος, Gorg. 523 Ὁ. 5. τούτων γὰρ οὗτοι κήρυκε---- τῶν λόγων] Compare the care which is taken, in Tim. 22, 23, to account for the preservation in Egypt of the legend of Atlantis, and the disappear- ance of the same in Greece. 6. ὑπὸ πολλῶν---ἀπιστοῦνται] Cf. Pheedr. 229 6: σὺ τοῦτο πεί- Get τὸ μυθολόγημα ἀληθὲς εἶναι ; K.T.A, τὸ yap — συννοεῖν] “ For we must seek to comprehend, methinks, that which follows what has now been said.” 7. ἐχόμενον γάρ ἐστι τῷ] The dative after ἐχόμενον is curious, but ἐχόμενόν ἐστι is not quite the same as ἔχεται : and the change of τῷ into τοῦ (if a change were required) would be easier and also better than Stallbaum’s conjecture of ἕπο- μενον for ἐχόμενον. “ For it is of a piece with (hangs together with) the aged men’s returning to the nature of infancy that from the dead also,” &e. 8. ἐκ τῶν τετελευτηκότων --- φυομένου] The irregularity of the construction is caused by a feeling that the dead persons are not the same with those who rise. This does not, however, prevent the sentence from con- tinuing as if τοὺς τετελευτ- a ΠΟΛΙΓΙΚΟΣ. 5D 3 “ 7 ᾽ 7 AY 4 a7i. ἐκεῖ ξυνισταμένους Kal avaBiockopEvovs,|* | τῇ τροπῃ 7 7 lal / συνανακυκλουμένης εἰς τἀναντία τῆς γενέσεως, καὶ a Ν \ ΄σ ἊΝ / » fe ᾽ / γηγενεῖς On κατὰ τοῦτον τὸν λόγον ἐξ ἀνάγκης φυο- / oS γ΄ yf Ν Ν > / “ \ μένους, OVTWS EX ELV ΤτΤουνομὰ και TOV ογον, οσοὺς μὴ Ν ᾽ an ᾽ 327) lal > / Geos αὐτῶν εἰς ἀλλην μοῖραν ἐκόμισεν. nxéras were the subject. Cf. Theet. 182 b: ἀλλ᾽ ἐξ ἀμφο- τέρων πρὸς ἄλληλα συγγιγνομένων τὰς αἰσθήσεις καὶ τὰ αἰσθητὰ ἀπο- τίκτοντα τὰ μὲν ποιὰ ἄττα γίγνε- σθαι, τὰ δὲ aicGavdpeva—where see note. So that the γηγενεῖς are composed of the elements which have been restored to Earth from the life of the for- mer cycle. The word γηγενεῖς is a “tertiary predicate.” “Being born by generation from the Earth.” I. ἀναβιωσκομένους] ing to life again.” This, as afterwards appears, is the quickening of a soul which has been “sown” into the earth, infr. 272 8. ἕπεσθαι, which is commonly inserted before τῇ τροπῇ, is omitted in Bodl. At. The word is unnecessary, and is very likely to have been added, from con- jecture, by some one who thought the apodosis too long deferred. 2. cvvavaxukdouperns| Stall- baum, following a hint of Schleiermacher, writes cvvava- κυκλουμένους, Which he finds in one MS. (Zittav). But this only increases the obscurity, for the “ Com- phrase εἰς τἀναντία τῆς γενέσεως ᾿ is hardly intelligible. Téveous is here used in the widest and most abstract sense for the general process of Nature, the current of which is reversed with the motion of the Sphere ge of mo- old erow (τῇ τροπῇ =the chan tion), whence the g young, and the buried rise from earth again: diminution taking the place of growth, and generation of decay. See, for a parallel notion in mo- dern poetry, “The thoughts of men are widened with the process of the Suns ;” and cf. infr. 273 6: τὴν ἐπὶ τὴν νῦν γένε- σιν ὁδόν. 274 6: τῆς νῦν περι- φορᾶς καὶ γενέσεως. Also Pheedv. 245 6: πάντα τε οὐρανὸν πᾶσαν See also Tim. 82 c: ὅταν ἀνάπαλιν ἡ γένεσις τούτων πο- ΄ τε γένεσιν. ρεΐηται, τότε ταῦτα διαφθείρεται. Badham, rejecting ἕπεσθαι, conj. ἥκειν for ἐκεῖ. But cf. Prot. 320 d: τυποῦσιν αὐτὰ (sc. τὰ θνητὰ γένη) θεοὶ γῆς ἔνδον ἐκ γῆς καὶ πυρὸς μίξαντες κιτ.Ὰλ. 4. τοὔνομα καὶ τὸν λόγον] Se. For ἔχειν, > / 53 ΄σ φὴς εἰναι δυνάμεως, πότερον ἐν ἐκείναις ἣν ταῖς τρο- ΄' Δ rn \ \ \ “ ΕΒ Ν παῖς ἢ ἐν ταῖσδε; τὴν μὲν γὰρ τῶν ἄστρων τε καὶ ταῖς τροπαῖς γίγνεσθαι. βἡλίου μεταβολὴν δῆλον ὡς ἐν ἑκατέραις ξυμπίπτει EE. Καλῶς τῷ λόγῳ ξυμπαρηκολούθηκας. 0 δ᾽ a 7 3 / / lal ἤρου περὶ τοῦ TavTa αὐτόματα γίγνεσθαι τοῖς av- / a “ “ > A / la θρώποις, ἥκιστα τῆς νῦν ἐστὶ καθεστηκυίας φορᾶς, > 3: VS: Ν a “ yy ͵ \ Sars ἀλλ nv καὶ τοῦτο τῆς ἐμπροσθεν. TOTE yap αὑτὴης πρῶτον τῆς κυκλήσεως ἦρχεν ἐπιμελούμενος ὅλης ὃ / al \ / 3. A eX “ θεός,----[ὡς νῦν κατὰ τόπους ταὐτὸν τοῦτο, ὑπὸ θεῶν 2. ἀλλὰ δὴ τὸν βίον] The fable of the γηγενεῖς has been applied: the application of the story of Atreus is evi- dent: it only now remains to find a place for the legend of the golden age: when κάρπον ἔφερε ζείδωρος ἀρουρὰ αὐτομάτη. In that former cycle the spon- taneous productiveness of the Earth was as apparent in the vegetable as in the animal kingdom. 3. ταῖς τροπαῖς) The plural marks the concrete form of expression, as In μέσαι νύκτες. 10. αὐτῆς---κυκλήσεως) “ For first the whole revolution was itself guided by the Divine care.” αὐτῆς gives emphasis to κυκλήσεως as Opposed to τὰ ζῶα. I. e. The universal movement which involves all else. 11. ἐπιμελούμενος] It is per- haps implied that he acts only through the inferior deities. 12. tos νῦν --- διειλημμένα] The general meaning of this ap- pears from infr. 272 6 : οἱ κατὰ τοὺς τόπους συνάρχοντες τῷ με- γίστῳ δαίμονι θεοί. But the exact construction is not ob- vious. Stallbaum proposes to read ὡς δὲ viv—mavr ἦν---διει- λημμένα. The words as they stand, however, will afford the same sense without any tor- ture, by supposing μέρη to be, like τὸν κολοφῶνα in Theet. 153 6, or δύο μέρη infr. 283 ¢, a cognate accusative in apposi- tion, expressing the mode of the action of ἦρχε. “ The parts of the universe every way being divided under the rule of deities, just as is now the case in certain parts.” (ὡς νῦν κατὰ τόπους ταὐτὸν τοῦτο SC. γίγνεται.) This last idea, though hardly consistent with the gene- ral spirit of the myth, receives some illustration from Legg. 5, 74 6, where the superiority of the inhabitants of particular re- gions is attributed to a Divine influence: ὡς ois θεία τις ἐπί- πνοια καὶ δαιμόνων λήξεις εἶεν. Compare Milton, Comus,18—29. Pheedo 111 ο: καὶ δὴ θεῶν ἕδη —ev οἷς τῷ ὄντι οἰκητὰς θεοὺς d ΠΟΛΙΤΙΚΟΣ. oT 271. ἀρχόντων πάντῃ τὰ τοῦ κόσμου μέρη διειλημμένα. Ν ‘ Ν \ “- Ν / Ν > / - a καὶ On καὶ τὰ ζῶα κατὰ γένη καὶ ἀγέλας οἷον νομεῖς σι 7 , > / > ’ o θεῖοι διειλήφεσαν δαίμονες, αὐτάρκης εἰς πάντα ἕκα- ΕἸ Ἃ - τ yf σ“ se αν στος εκαστοις WY OLS AUTOS ἐεἐνέμεέν, WOTE OUT ay plov 53 5ῸΝ 3, / / “ / I,” ἦν οὐδὲν οὔτε ἀλλήλων ἐδωδαί, πόλεμος TE οὐκ ἐνὴν 8 5ῸΝ , Ν ’΄ 57 ΒΝ “ / οὐδὲ στάσις TO παράπαν᾽ ἄλλα θ᾽ ὅσα τῆς τοιαύτης / « / 7» ἐστὶ κατακοσμήσεως ἑπόμενα, μυρί δ By av em λεγειν. > 5 ΄σ ’ \ > / τὸ δ᾽ οὖν τῶν ἀνθρώπων λεχθὲν αὐτομάτου πέρι βίου Ν Ν , 5 διὰ τὸ τοιόνδε εἰρηται. εἶναι. For διειλημμένα, οἵ. Ar. Pol. VII. 6: βλέψας---πρὸς πᾶ- σαν τὴν οἰκουμένην, ὡς διείληπται τοῖς ἔθνεσιν. Cf. also Critias 109 b: Θεοὶ---ἅπασαν γῆν ποτε κατὰ τοὺς τόπους διελάγχανον οὐ κατὰ ἔριν. For ταὐτὸν τοῦτο, cf. infr. 308 6: ταὐτὸν δή μοι τοῦθ᾽ ἡ βασιλικὴ φαίνεται κιτιλ. Lege 4, 713 6.. Le. as now there is a presiding deity in the Sun, the Earth, the Sea, and in sacred groves, &c., so then no place was devoid of the Divine Pre- sence and control: πάντα da- μόνων πληρῆ, as Thales said, not θεῶν ἔρημα εἶναι πάντα (Plat. Legg. 10, 908 6). It must be admitted that the text is not wholly free from suspicion. Cf. infr. 272 6: οἱ κατὰ τοὺς τόπους, and note. Qu. an. legend. ὡσαύτως δ᾽ αὖ κατὰ τόπους κ-τ.λ. 2 αὐτως being dropped from ho- moioteleuton, the remaining letters, δ᾽ αὖ, might easily be corrupted into νῦν. The go- vernment of μέρη 1s in this case less harsh: the clause ὑπὸ θεῶν -Οδιείλημμένα being explanatory of κατὰ τόπους ταὐτὸν τοῦτο (86. ἔδρα, 1. 6. ἦρχεν ἐπιμελούμενος τοῦ κόσμου). 2. καὶ ἀγέλας] As the subdi- Ν yy 3 \ Sew θεὸς ἐνεμεν αὐτοὺς αὑτὸς visions of each tribe. The word recals the previous discussion. 3. διειλήφεσαν | Answering to διειλημμένα. As the parts of the universe generally were distributed to several gods, so the lesser deities had the tribes of animals distributed amongst them. θεῖοι is to be joined with δαίμονες. adtapkys| Not self-sufficing, “ but sufficient of himself ;” = αὐτὸς ἀρκῶν. Cf. supr. 268 a. 5. οὔτε ἀλλήλων ἐδωδαί] This thought is probably associated with the Orphie abstinence from animal food. 6. τῆς τοιαύτης] Se. θείας. 7. κατακοσμήσεω] The ge- nitive is accounted for by supposing the participle to be added pleonastically. ‘“ What belongs to this mode of ten- dance and is consonant there- to.” Cf. however Rep. 6, 504 b: τῶν----προειρημένων ἐπομένας ἀποδείξεις. 8. τὸ δ᾽ οὖν] “And accord- ingly (to return to the point) the tradition that mankind in particular had a spontaneous subsistence is to be accounted for in the following way.” 9. θεὸς ---- ἐπιστατῶν | The a! Deities, each of whom was all-suffi- cient for his own flock in all things. Then was nothing wild: no devouring one an- other: no war or dis- cord of any kind. All was order- ed as you might ex- pect under a Divine sway. Hence amongst mankind there was no code of ordinances, for the Di- vine Will was their law: nor possession 58 > ΄σ 4 an » lal Δ ἐπιστατῶν, καθάπερ νῦν ἀνθρωποι, ζῶον ον ΠΛΑΤΏΝΟΣ / ϑ, / / « od / θειότερον, ἄλλα γένη φαυλότερα αὑτῶν vopevovor. ’ ’ / rovut 4 > 3 Oe / νέμοντος δὲ ἐκείνου πολιτεῖαί TE οὐκ ἦσαν οὐδὲ KTN- a 7 ᾽ tad Ν » 7, σεις γυναικῶν καὶ παίδων" ἐκ γῆς yap ἀνεβιώσκοντο ΄ 7O\ / a fd > Ν Ν \ 5 TAVTES, οὐδὲν μεμνημένοι τῶν πρόσθεν. ἀλλὰ TA μεν cal > 5 / \ λὼ 9 / 5 3 / τοιαῦτα ἀπῆν πᾶντα, καρποὺς Oe ἀφθονους εἰχον amo τε δένδρων καὶ πολλῆς ὕλης ἄλλης, οὐχ ὑπὸ γεωργίας / ᾽ > > / > / “ - φυομένους, ἀλλ᾽ αὐτομάτης ἀναδιδούσης τῆς γῆς. OX \ Ν 57 lal Ν Ν I, γυμνοὶ δὲ καὶ ἀστρωτοι θυραυλοῦντες τὰ TOAAG ἐνέ- same belief in a past theo- cracy is expressed in the Laws, with a similar allusion to the Saturnia regna, and is used to point the same lesson,—that a paternal government, as man- kind are now constituted, is a visionary dream, and that the rule of Law, devised by rea- son, which is all which re- mains to us of Divine guid- ance, is the best available substitute ; 4, 713 Οἱ οἷον νῦν ἡμεῖς δρῶμεν τοῖς ποιμνίοισι καὶ ὅσων ἥμεροΐ εἰσιν ἀγέλαι ov βοῦς βοῶν οὐδὲ αἶγας αἰγῶν ἄρχοντας ποιοῦμεν αὐτοῖσί τινας, ἀλλ᾽ ἡμεῖς αὐτῶν δεσπόζομεν, ἄμεινον ἐκείνων γένος. ταὐτὸν δὴ καὶ ὁ θεὸς ἄρα καὶ φιλάνθρωπος ὧν τὸ γένος ἄμεινον ἡμῶν ἐφίστη τὸ τῶν δαι- μόνων, ὃ διὰ πολλῆς μὲν αὐτοῖς ῥᾳστώνης πολλῆς δ᾽ ἣμιν ἐπιμε- λούμενον ἡμῶν, εἰρήνην τε καὶ αἰδῶ καὶ εὐνομίαν καὶ ἀφθονίαν δίκης παρεχόμενον ἀστασίαστα καὶ ev- δαίμονα τὰ τῶν ἀνθρώπων ἀπειρ- γάζετο γένη. I. ἐπιστατῶν] Cf. Gorg. 523 C: οἱ ἐπιμελῆται. 3. πολιτεῖαι] Forms οὗ go- vernment are rendered super- fluous by the presence of a Supreme Will. τε] The apodosis is broken off through the expansion of this clause by an afterthought, and is resumed in κάρπους δὲ infr. Compare with this passage the description in the Protagoras, p. 321, of the state of man be- fore the introduction of the arts of life; and Glaucon’s ὑῶν πόλις in the Republic, 2,372. The absence of property and mar- riage in the perfect state is again mentioned in the well-known passage of the Laws, 5, 739. 4. ἀνεβιώσκοντο] Rising from the dust of former generations. Cf. supr. 271 b. 5. οὐδὲν μεμνημένοι] Hay- ing been steeped in the river of forgetfulness, Rep. 10,621 e: and therefore ignorant of all previous relationships. 6. ἀπό te δένδρων͵; Cf. Hes. Op. et D. 233 : ἰθυδίκαισι per’ ἀνδρασι τοῖσι φέρει μὲν γαῖα πολὺν βίον, οὔρεσι δὲ δρῦς [ ἄκρη μέν τε φέρει βαλάνους, μέσση δὲ μελίσσας κιτιλ.; and Hom. Od. T. 111: φέρῃσι τε γαῖα μέλαινα πυροὺς καὶ κριθὰς, βρίθησι τε δέν- δρεα καρπῷ, quoted elsewhere by Plato, Rep. 2, 363. 9. ἐνέμοντο] “ Lived under their shepherd’s care.” ἕτερον Pp. 271... Ρ. 272 ΠΟΛΙΤΊΚΟΣ. 59 ‘\ \ ΄- « a val A > 272. μοντο TO γὰρ τῶν @Mpov αὐτοῖς ἄλυπον ἐκέκρατο, ‘ \ 3 \ S > / » aN / μαλακας δὲ εὐνὰς εἶχον ἀναφυομένης ἐκ γῆς πόας > / \ \ 9S / 5 \ \ b ἀφθόνου. τὸν δὴ βίον, ὦ Σώκρατες, ἀκούεις μὲν TOV lal \ / / A , SIN Ν 3 τῶν ἐπὶ Kpovov' τόνδε δ᾽, ὃν * λόγος ἐπὶ Διὸς εἶναι, NX ς \ » ὌΝ 5} ω ’ > a x TOV VUVL TAPOV QvuTos no Onoa. Κριναι ὃ αὐυτοιν TOV 5 » , Brass oN , / Aes , εὐδαιμονέστερον ap ἂν δύναιο τε καὶ ἐθελήσειας 5 ΝΕ. mE. NE. SOQ. Οὐδαμῶς. I. τὸ yap τῶν ὡρῶν] Cf. Odyss. A. 565-8; Hdt. I. 142; Plat. Lege. 5, 747. 3. ἀκούεις pev] Subaud. ἤσθησαι δ᾽ οὐ (“although you have ποῦ seen’”’). 4. ὃν * λόγος --- εἶναι] ὃν ὡς CH τὸ Β ὡς cett. This pro- bably implies the same feeling of half-credulous or ironical respect towards the popular religion which appears in Tim. 40d. To Plato the mythology of his countrymen was but a rumour, an echo from the past. 5. παρὼν] “ As an eye-wit- ness.” So the word is fre- quently used (pleonastically as here) by Sophocles, e.g. Cid. Col. 1587. κρῖναι δ᾽ — roy εὐδαιμονέστε- ρον] Compare the judgment between the just and unjust life in Rep. 2, 360 d, and _ be- tween pleasure and knowledge in Phileb. 52 e. 8. τρόπον τινὰ] 1. 6. hypo- thetically. το. Ei pev—ypeias] Compare with the doubt here expressed as to the happimess of the golden age, the rejection in the Republic (2, 372) of the Βούλει δῆτα ἐγώ σοι τρόπον τινὰ διακρίνω ; ΣΏ. Πᾶανυ μὲν οὖν. ᾽ Ἁ / . , Qn / Ei μεν τοίνυν οἱ τρόφιμοι τοῦ Kpovov, πα- το simple or primitive state as a basis for the definition of jus- tice. The picture of an earthly paradise has been purposely heightened, in order to enforce the remark that this is not the chief good of man. Cf. Eu- thyd. 289 Ὁ: οὐδέ ye et τις ἔστιν ἐπιστήμη, ὥστε ἀθανάτους ποιεῖν ἄνευ τοῦ ἐπίστασθαι τῇ ἀθανασίᾳ χρῆσθαι, οὐδὲ ταύτης ἔοικεν ὄφελος οὐδέν. See also Lys. 221 6: Πότερον, ἢν δ᾽ ἐγώ, πρὸς Διός, ἐὰν τὸ κακὸν ἀπόληται, οὐδὲ πεινῆν ἔτι ἔσται οὐδὲ διψῆν, οὐδὲ ἄλλο οὐδὲν τῶν τοιούτων κιτιλ. The identification of the king with the shepherd, and the notion of a theocracy, to which Plato here inclines, but which he rejects as un- suited to the present state of man, seem to be of Pythago- rean origin. Cf. Pythagor. Fr. ὃ 2. (Mullach p. 533): Ἔχει δὲ καὶ ws θεὸς ποτὶ κόσμον βασιλεὺς πρὸς πόλιν, καὶ ὡς πόλις ποτὶ κόσ- μον, βασιλεὺς πρὸς θεόν. ἁ μὲν γὰρ πόλις ἐκ πολλῶν καὶ διαφερόντων συναρμοσθεῖσα κόσμω σύνταξιν καὶ ἁρμονίαν μεμίμαται, ὁ δὲ βα- σιλεὺς ἀρχὰν ἔχων ἀνυπεύθυνον, καὶ αὐτὸς dv νόμος ἔμψυχος, θεὸς θη ὦ of wives and chil- dren, for they sprang from Earth, not know- ing whence they came. Contrast their life, devoid of care, in a perfect cli- mate, tak- ing no more thought for raiment than the lilies of the field, with our state in this present Jovian cycle, and say which is the hap- piest. Or rather, shall I tell you that this de- pends on 60 ρούσης αὐτοῖς οὕτω πολλῆς σχολῆς Kal δυνάμεως p. 272}) ΠΛΑΤΏΝΟΣ πρὺς τὸ μὴ μόνον ἀνθρώποις ἀλλὰ καὶ θηρίοις διὰ λόγων δύνασθαι ξυγγίγνεσθαι, κατεχρῶντο τούτοις / pax ® if / / . > ξύμπασιν ἐπὶ φιλοσοφίαν, μετά τε θηρίων καὶ μετ » ΄ a 7 \ / 5aAAnA@Y ὁμιλοῦντες, καὶ πυνθανόμενοι παρὰ πάσης ’ 5] “ 57 / 3) BA ΄ φύσεως εἴ τινά τις ἰδίαν δύναμιν ἔχουσα ῃσθετο τι διάφορον τῶν ἄλλων εἰς συναγυρμὸν φρονήσεως, ἐν ἀνθρώποις παρεσχημάτισται. Ibid. § 3, p. 535: θεόμιμόν ἐντι πρᾶγμα βασιλεία. These fragments, however, belong to a later time. See Introduction to the Statesman, § 3. It is left uncertain what deity had charge of the human race. But the notion of Deity is so far generalized that this matters little. See, however, the words τῶν ἐπὶ Kpdvov—oi τρόφιμοι τοῦ Κρόνου. (9.) of τρόφιμοι τοῦ Κρόνου] “The flock or charge (lit. ‘nurslings’) of Κρόνος." The name is peculiarly applicable in the present case, where the Deity in charge not only go- verns, but attends to all the varied wants of those whom he governs, αὐτάρκης ὧν ois αὐτὸς νέμει. So also in Rep. and Laws, those for whose education the speakers are providing are spoken of by the same affectionate name. Rep. 7, 520 d: ᾿Απειθήσουσιν ἡμῖν ot τρόφιμοι ; Lege. 7, 804 a: ταὐτὸν δὴ καὶ τοὺς ἡμετέρους τροφίμους δεῖ. 2. ἀλλὰ καὶ Onpios|] The traces of this in the regular mythology were few. (Cf. however, the stories of Procne, Philomela, and the like.) But the Fables of Aisop, and the cycle to which they belonged — partly invented to please the childish imagination, but probably not without sugges- tions from Egypt and the East —were sufficient to suggest the idea to Plato. See also Porphyr. V. Pythag. το : (Πυθα- yopas φησὶν) ὅτι πάντα τὰ γιγνό- μενα ἔμψυχα ὁμογενῆ δεῖ νομίζειν. 5. καὶ πυνθανόμενοι] Τῇ other creatures besides man could tell their experience, science would rest on a wider basis. 7. εἰς συναγυρμὸν φρονήσεως] “To contribute to the store of wisdom.” (Cf. Legg. 8, 845 e: idap —auvayuprév.) The idea that knowledge comprises all the actual relations of things, and arises only from the in- terrogation of the most varied experience, belongs to the maturity of Plato’s thought. Cf. Soph. 259 ἃ For πᾶσα Φύσις, cf. Rep. 2, 359 ¢: 6 πᾶσα φύσις διώκειν πέφυκεν ὡς ἀγαθόν. The close and friendly intercourse with Nature, which Plato here imagines, is well described in the little German fable ‘The Story without an Ἐπα. One point of coinci- dence may be quoted—when the child goes to sleep in the cave, the grass springs up spon- taneously to make his pillow. ΠΟΛΙΤΙΚΟΣ. 61 ἣν, a a cf , / Ν » 7 472. εὔκριτον ὅτι τῶν νῦν οἱ τότε μυρίῳ πρὸς εὐδαιμονίαν / > \ 3 / / Ὁ Ν lal διέφερον, εἰ δὲ ἐμπιπλάμενοι σίτων ἅδην καὶ ποτῶν διελέγοντο πρὸς ἀλλήλους καὶ τὰ θηρία μύθους, οἷα \ Ν A A ν Dit a 7 Ν a “ d δὴ καὶ τὰ νῦν περὶ αὐτῶν λέγονται, καὶ τοῦτο, ὡς γε \ \ SiN / ’ » Ν 7. ΕἾ κατὰ τὴν ἐμὴν δόξαν ἀποφήνασθαι, καὶ μάλ᾽ εὔκρι- ῳ ’ 5 a \ > ἴω “ a‘ [eat Ἔ π τον. ὅμως δ᾽ οὖν ταῦτα μὲν ἀφώμεν, EWS αν ἡμιν ᾿ς ec Ἃ -“ / « / \ > μηνυτὴς τις LKaVOS avn, ποτέρως οἱ τότε Tas ἐπιθὺυ- Ὥ / a “ a / μίας εἶχον περί TE ἐπιστημῶν καὶ τῆς τῶν λόγων 7 3 @ Ν “ \ 50 > 7 a x χβειας ου ενεκὰ τὸν μυσον ηγειραμεν, TOUTO €K:= if? / ἊΝ Χ a) > \ 4 / TEOV, ἵνα TO μετὰ τοῦτο εἰς TO πρόσθεν περαίνωμεν. > \ \ / / / > / \ Ἐπειδὴ yap πάντων τούτων χρόνος ἐτελεώθη καὶ μεταβολὴν ἔδει γίγνεσθαι καὶ δὴ καὶ τὸ γήινον ἠδὴ a lA ΄ «ε a lal πᾶν ἀνήλωτο γένος, πάσας ἑκάστης τῆς ψυχῆς τὰς The same conception of in- quiry, as a conversation with the object of study, appears in Legs. a 689 e: πάσας ὡς ἔπος εἰπεῖν διηρώτηκα τὰς κοινωνίας. “ Inquiring from every nature, to see if one having some peculiar power had perceived something different from the rest which might be gathered into wisdom’s treasury.” 2. ef δὲ ἐμπιπλάμενοι---] ΟἿ, Legg. 7, 807 d: τοῖς δὴ ταύτῃ κεκοσμημένοις ἄρα οὐδὲν λειπόμε- νόν ἐστιν καὶ παντάπασιν προσῆ- κον, ἀλλ᾽ ἐν τρόπῳ βοσκήματος ἕκαστον πιαινόμενον αὐτῶν δεῖ ὧν. Rep. 3, 407 a,b: ὁ δὲ δὴ πλούσιος --- οὐδὲν ἔχει τοιοῦτον ἔργον προκείμενον, οὗ ἀναγκαζο- μένῳ ἀπέχεσθαι ἀβίωτον. 3. οἷα] Flor. b. Ven. Ξ. οἷοι. In either case μῦθοι is to be sup- plied as the subject of λέγονται. 6. δ᾽ οὖν But to resume. 7. ποτέρως] The clause de- pends on the verbal notion in μηνυτὴς. 9. τὸν μῦθον ἠγείραμεν] “ We have waked from long slumber a ghost which seems unwilling to be laid.” Cf. Rep. 5,346a: ὅσον λόγον πάλιν κινεῖτε περὶ τῆς πολιτείας !—ov« ἴστε ὅσον ἑσμὸν λόγων ἐπεγείρετε. 10. ἵνα---περαίνωμεν] “ That we may get forward with what is still before us.” Cf. Rep. τ, 346 a: ἵνα τι kal περαίνωμεν. 11. πάντων τούτων χρόνος] “The time required for all that has been described.” 12. ede | Cf Prot. 321 ΟΣ ἡ εἱμαρμένη ἡμέρα παρῆν ev 7 ἔδει καὶ ἄνθρωπον ἐξιέναι ἐκ γῆς εἰς φῶς. Compare Emped. vy. 66-- 69: Αὐτὰρ ἐπεὶ μέγα Neikos evi μελέεσσιν ἐθρέφθη | ἐς τιμάς τ᾽ ἀνόρουσε, τελειομένοιο χρόνοιο, | ὅ σφιν ἀμοιβαῖος πλατέος παρελή- λαται Ὅρκου. τὸ γήινον ---- γένος] ‘ The race whose generation was from the Earth.” 13. πάσας — ἀποδεδωκυίας | “ Having completed her pro- the way in which the nurslings of Saturn employed their gold- en time. Now when that cycle was at an end, and each soul had ful- filled the number of her births from Earth, the pilot of the Uni- verse let go the helm. Rebound- ing with a shock, the mighty mass caus- ed a new s > 8 ὃ 7, “ 3 νι ἢ θέ jj γενέσεις ἀποδεδωκυίας, OTH ἣν εκάστῃ προσταχθέν, p. “72 per cycle of births.” For Pla- to’s doctrine of transmigra- tion, see Pheedo 82, 113, 114; Rep. 10,618-620; Pheedr. 248, 249; Tim. 42. According to the Phedrus (248 6), the pe- riod here spoken of must be at least 10,000 years. Empe- docles and Pindar speak of 30,000. Tpis μὲν μυρίας ὥρας ἀπὸ μακάρων ἀλαλῆσθαι. I. ὅσα---πεσούσης] “ Having fallen in so many sowings into the earth as it was appointed unto each (to fall) :” i.e. having been sown in earth so many times. These words have oc- casioned some difficulty. Cor- narius, followed as usual by Stephanus, read καὶ ὅσα, but the clause is explanatory of the preceding, and hence the asyndeton. (Modestus cau- tusque quum alias tum in Platone criticus Stephanus, interdum tamen, ubi Ficinum Cornariumye temeré sequitur, aded sui est dissimilis vix ut vi- rum agnoscas. Heindorf.) Most MSS. have προσταχθέντος αὐτά. Badh. con}. ὅσα ἢν ἑκάστῃ τὰ προσ- ταχθέντα, τοσαῦτα εἰς γήινα σπέρ- ματα εἰσδύσης. And the Zurich editors, adopting a conjecture of Sauppe’s, read γῆς σπέρματα (“having fallen into so many germs of earth”). But the clod cannot be called a germ until united with a soul. The soul is rather the seed implanted in the earth. Stallbaum suggests two renderings, making τοσαῦτα σπέρματα equivalent either to κατὰ τοσαῦτα σπέρματα, OF tO ὡς τοσαῦτα σπέρματα, the accusative in the latter case being put for the genitive by attraction from ITAATQNOZ ὅσα. The latter alternative is to be rejected, not only because of the harshness of this attrac- tion, but because no one who wished to say “a soul must be born so many times from the earth,” would think of expres- sing himself thus, “a soul must fall into the earth as so many seeds.” In the former Stallbaum has perhaps (for he speaks obscurely) indicated the true rendering : according to which σπέρματα retains more than usual of a verbal signi- fication (ef. the unusual mean- ing of θρέμμα, inf. 289 b), and is in the accusative cognate after πεσούσης, while εἰς γῆν depends partly on πεσούσης, but directly and chiefly on σπέρματα. The sense becomes clear when σπαρείσης is substi- tuted in thought for πεσούσης. If Plato had written τοσαῦτα εἰς γῆν σπέρματα σπαρείσης (or πτώματα πεσούσης, οἷ. Aisch. Prom. 921), there could have been no doubt as to his mean- ing. Cf Legg. 8, 841 d: dura δὲ παλλακῶν σπέρματα μὴ σπείρειν, μηδὲ ἄγονα ἀρρένων παρά φυσιν : and compare Tim. 41 6: δέοι δὲ σπαρείσας αὐτὰς (τὰς ψυχάς) εἰς τὰ προσήκοντα ἑκάσταις ἕκαστα ὄργανα χρόνου φῦναι ζώων τὸ θεοσεβέστατον. Ib. 42 d: ἔσπειρε τοὺς μὲν εἰς γῆν, τοὺς δ᾽ εἰς σελή- νην, τοὺς δ᾽ εἰς τἄλλα ὅσα ὄργανα χρόνου. τὸ δὲ μετὰ τὸν σπόρον τοῖς νέοις παρέδωκε θεοῖς σώματα πλάττειν θνητά κιτ.ιλ. Thus the souls are sown into the earth and there a body is given to each. The verbal meaning of σπέρμα (=the act of sowing, not the seed,) occurs in Hes. | IIOAITIKO®. 05 a “ / / / \ a 272. τοσαῦτα εἰς γῆν σπέρματα πεσούσης, τότε δὴ τοῦ \ ς A , - , 7 » ΄ὕ παντὸς ὃ μὲν κυβερνήτης, οἷον πηδαλίων οἴακος ἀφέ- \ « a \ > 7] Ν \ \ μενος, εἰς τὴν αὑτοῦ περιωπὴν ἀπέστη, Tov δὲ δὴ [ / > / C / Ν / κόσμον πάλιν ἀνέστρεφεν εἱμαρμένη τε Kal ξύμφυτος » / 7 3 τ Ν \ / 7 ἐπιθυμία. TaVvTES οὖν οἱ κατὰ τοὺς τόπους συνάρχον- Op. et D. 779, σπέρματος ἄρξα- σθαι, and Soph. Cid. Tyr. 1246, μνήμην παλαιῶν σπερμά- τῶν ἔχουσα. See Passow’s Lex. s. v. Although the imagery is different, the word πεσούσης recals not only the passage of the Timzeus just quoted (41 e), but the prime calamity of the soul described in the Phedrus. The above rendering is also given by (Οὐ. F. Hermann. This additional reason for the ter- mination of the cycle gives fresh plausibility to the story. I. τοῦ παντὸς ὁ μὲν κυβερνή- tys| τοῦ παντὸς heads the sen- tence, displacing μὲν, because the Universe is the real sub- ject of all that follows. 2. πηδαλίων οἴακος] “ The tiller of the helm.” The otaé was the part of the steering apparatus next the steersman’s hand (Pollux, I. 89: οἵ. Aisch. Ag. 649, οἴακος θιγών). 3. εἰς τὴν αὑτοῦ περιωπὴν ἀπέστη] ““ Retired to his own pinnacle of contemplation.” Cigebliome see 9. 25, ὅθι; Od. K. 146. The conception of the Timeus is more ele- vated (42 e): καὶ 6 μὲν δὴ ἅπαντα ταῦτα διατάξας ἔμενεν ἐν τῷ ἑαυτοῦ κατὰ τρόπον ἤθει. Though the idea of place is almost entirely absent here, it may be remembered that the central fire of the Pytha- goreans was called Διὸς φυλακή: and we may recal the νῶτον τοῦ ovpavod, which is the vantage- ground of speculation in the Pheedrus. 4. εἱμαρμένη] Cf. ἔδει above, and the necessity pointed out inp. 269 d,e. Cf Tim. 47 e, 566. : μεμιγμένη yap οὖν ἡ τοῦδε τοῦ κόσμου γένεσις ἐξ ἀνάγκης τε καὶ νοῦ συστάσεως ἐγεννήθη. σύμφυτος ἐπιθυμία] This “in- nate proclivity” may be com- pared with the blind principle of spontaneous motion alluded to in Tim. 30 a: πᾶν ὅσον ἢν ὁρατὸν παραλαβὼν οὐχ ἡσυχίαν ἄγον ἀλλὰ κινούμενον πλημμελῶς καὶ ἀτάκτως. It is to be ob- served that this has a direction opposite to the will of God. 5. οἱ κατὰ τοὺς τόπους---θεοὶ] It is evident from this that the government of the several re- gions was not wholly commit- ted to the subordinate deities. The Divine operation, imme- diate on the whole, was at once immediate and mediate in every part. If the text of 251 e is sound, there is a false echo in κατὰ τοὺς rérovs—since κατὰ τύπους, in the former pas- sage as it now stands expresses the partial nature of the Divine superintendence in the present, and not its distribution in the former, cycle. The language resembles Pheedr. 246 e: τῷ δ᾽ ἕπεται otpatia θεῶν τε καὶ δαι- μόνων κατὰ ἕνδεκα μέρη κεκοσμη- destruction of all kinds of life: till, settling by degrees into his own path, he followed, as far as memory served, his father’s in- struction. But he forgot this by degrees, from being 64 ΄ ͵ ὃ 7, θ / / "ὃ \ fo TES τῷ μεγίστῳ Oalpovl CEol, yvovTEes 10H TO γιγνο- Pp. 27 ΠΛΑΤΩΏΝΟΣ heres: 5 \ / A ͵ a we μενον, ἀφίεσαν αὖ Ta μέρη TOV κοσμου τῆς αὐτῶν » / ἐπιμελείας. ὁ δὲ μεταστρεφόμενος καὶ ξυμβάλλων, p. 27) ἀρχῆς τε καὶ τελευτῆς ἐναντίαν ὁρμὴν ὁρμηθείς, σει- ΒΥ 53 Ν / enclosed in ὅσμὸν πολὺν ἐν ἑαυτῷ ποιῶν, ἄλλην αὖ φθοραν ζώων “muddy ae of decay,” which clung to him from the chaos out of which he was at first \ ΄σ / παντοίων ἀπειργάσατο. μετὰ δὲ ταῦτα προελθόντος ΄ ΄ / / Ν “ yy ἱκανοῦ χρόνου, θορύβων τε καὶ ταραχῆς ἤδη παυ- 7 \ vat a / » / oy μενος καὶ τῶν σεισμῶν, γαλήνης ἐπιλαβόμενος εἰς XN ’ / / Ν « ΄σ / τε τὸν εἰωθότα δρόμον τὸν ἑαυτοῦ κατακοσμούμενος μένη----τῶν δ᾽ ἄλλων ὅσοι ἐν τῷ τῶν δώδεκα ἀριθμῷ τεταγμένοι θεοὶ ἄρχοντες, ἡγοῦνται κατὰ τάξιν ἣν ἕκαστος ἐτάχθη. ξυμβάλλων se. ἑαυτῷ :—“ coming together with a shock :” οἵ, Theophr. de Sensu I: τοὺς τύπους ἀνάγκη συμβάλλειν ἑαυτοῖς, Soph. Cid. Col. gor: συμβάλλουσιν ἐμπόρων ὁδοί. Hom. Tl. π. 565. And compare the frequent use of συμβάλλω in Hdt. to express conflict in war. I. τῷ μεγίστῳ δαίμονι θεοί] Badham conjectures τῷ με- γίστῳ δαίμονες ew. Cf. supr. 270d; ifr: 274 b, Leg gg. 8, 848 6; θεῶν τε καὶ τῶν ἑπομένων θεοῖς δαιμόνων. Ib. 7, 821 a: τὸν μέγιστον θεὸν καὶ ὅλον τὸν κόσμον. See however supr. 271 d,e, where δαίμων and θεός are interchanged. 4. ἀρχῆς Te καὶ TeA. — ὀρμη- θείς] “ Having received an im- pulse opposite, both in respect of beginning and end,”’—the πόθεν ‘and the ol. This of course happens when a circular motion is reversed: and aggra- vates the violence of the imme- diate shock. Had the world “gone off at a tangent,” the ἔνθα δίστομοι μάλιστα ΕἸ » / Ν 7 ΒΩ Sy oN - 5 ec ΄σ 10 €L, ἐπιμέλειαν και Κρᾶτος EX@V QUTOS τῶν εν αὐτῷ b beginning would have been the former end, but the end not the former beginning. 5. ἄλλην αὖ φθοράν] Supr. 270 6. 8. εἰς τὸν εἰωθότα δρόμον] The vibrations are supposed to cause a temporary perturba- tion or nutation of the cir- cular motion, as in a top that is not “asleep.” The notion of vast cycles is assumed in the Laws. Cf. 3, 680 a, where the first survi- vors of the flood are called οἱ ἐν τούτῳ τῷ μέρει τῆς περιόδου γεγονότες. Ib. 6, 782 ἃ: πόλεων συστάσεις καὶ φθορὰς καὶ ἐπιτηδεύ- ματα παντοῖα ταξέως τε καὶ ἀταξίας καὶ βρώσεος καὶ πωμάτων τε ἅμα καὶ βρωμάτων ἐπιθυμήματα παντοδαπὰ πάντως καὶ περὶ πᾶσαν τὴν γὴν οἰόμεθα γεγονέναι, καὶ στροφὰς ὡρῶν παντοίας, ἐν αἷς τὰ ζῶα μεταβάλλειν αὑτῶν παμ- πληθεῖς μεταβολὰς εἰκός; εἴς τε---κατακοσμούμενος] ‘Set- tling down into his accus- tomed course.” Cf. Rep. 8, 500 a: αἰδοῦς τινος ἐγγενομένης ἐν τῇ τοῦ νέου ψυχῇ---κατεκοσμήθη πάλιν. Supr. 271 6. Qu. an. omittend. τε ? a 2 > ap OUK ΠΟΛΙΤΊΚΟΣ. 65 μνημονεύων διδαχὴν εἰς δύναμιν. Ay, Ε fal ‘ a A Ν > 273. TE καὶ ἑαυτοῦ, τὴν τοῦ δημιουργοῦ καὶ πατρὸς ἀπο- > \ \ κατ᾽ ἀρχὰς μεν ΩΣ > / lal \ 4 οὖν ἀκριβέστερον ἀπετέλει, τελευτῶν δὲ ἀμβλύτερον. ΄ \ > rc Ν \ vad , τούτων δὲ αὐτῷ TO TwparoEdes τῆς συγκράσεως + \ a / \ / ΄ σ αἴτιον, τὸ τῆς πάλαι ποτὲ φύσεως ξύντροφον, ὅτι 5 [3 Dy / > ! Ν > Ν r , πολλῆς nv μετέχον ἀταξίας πρὶν εἰς τὸν νῦν κοσμον > / ‘\ \ \ ZS , 7 Ν ἀφικέσθαι. παρὰ μὲν γὰρ τοῦ συνθέντος πᾶντα τα \ Dp \ \ 2 yY sd “ καλὰ κέκτηται παρὰ δὲ τῆς ἔμπροσθεν ἕξεως, ὅσα λ Ν Ν χὃ > > ἴω / al ξ 5 ΜᾺ χὰ εἐσὰ και AOLKA EV ουρᾶνῳ γίγνεται, ταυτα ἐς EKEL SI / 3) Ν an - 3 , \ vns αὐτὸς τε ἔχει Kal τοῖς ζώοις ἐναπεργάζεται. μετὰ \ 3 a β 7ὔ ἈΝ ζ 7 3 ς a Mev οὖν του KU EpvynTOV τὰ (wa τρέφων εν αὐτῷ σμικρὰ μὲν φλαῦρα, μεγάλα δὲ ἐνέτικτεν ἀγαθά" / \ / / > lad χωριζόμενος δὲ ἐκείνου τὸν ἐγγύτατα χρόνον ἀεὶ τῆς 1. πατρὸς) Cf. Tim. 28 e, 47 ἃ. The word is used here for the sake of the metaphor, “Calling to mind his father’s instruction ;? as in Tim. 42 6: νοήσαντες οἱ παῖδες τὴν τοῦ πα- τρὸς διάταξιν, μιμούμενοι τὸν σφέτερον δημιοῦργον. 3. ἀμβλύτερον]! “ With less sharpness and precision,” as if making an inferior copy of some masterpiece of sculpture or painting, or, “ with dimin- ished powers,” “ with less in- sight,” “with less keenness of vision.” The latter is more probable. 4. τούτων δὲ --- ἀφικέσθαι | “ Now this falling off comes to the world from the _ bodily element of her composition, which was inherent in her pri- mal nature, since this partook of much disorder, before at- taining the present organised form.” Cf. Tim. 30 a: say ὅσον ἦν ὁρατὸν παραλαβὼν οὐχ c , oy 5) \ ΄ ἡσυχίαν ἄγον ἀλλὰ κινούμενον πλημμελῶς καὶ ἀτάκτως, εἰς τάξιν αὐτὸ ἤγαγεν ἐκ τῆς ἀταξίας. ὅτι---- ἀφικέσθαι is epexegetic of the previous clause. For the iden- tity of the ὁρατὸν and ceparo- evdes, cf. Pheedo 80c¢: τὸ épa- τὸν αὐτοῦ τὸ σῶμα. Several MSS., including ΔΙ, have μέ- τοχον. ὃ, παρὰ δὲ τῆς ἔμπροσθεν ἕξεως] Thus a time is ima- gined before the alternate cy- cles began. Compare the thought in Rep. το, 613, of the just man: ὅσα ye ἀπὸ θεῶν γίγνεται, πάντα γίγνεθαι ὡς οἷον TE ἄριστα, εἰ μή τι ἀναγκαῖον αὐτῷ κακὸν ἐκ προτέρας ἁμαρτίας ὑπῆρχεν. παρὰ δὲ -- ἕξεως, ἐξ ἐκείνης] The expression at first cor- responds to παρὰ pev—rod συν- θέντος, but when resumed for the sake of emphasis in a pro- nominal form, is more strictly adapted to the immediate con- text. 13. τὸν ἐγγύτατα χρόνον ἀεὶ *K brought by his Crea- tor: from whom he derives all that he has of good : and in con- junction with whom, in that former cycle, the evil within him is re- duced to a minimum. But that guiding hand being withdrawn, as forget- fulness in- creases the ancient anarchy gradually returns, until the world and all depend- ent organ- isms are in danger of ruin. Wherefore then the first dis- poser of the world, lest he should founder in 66 > / / , ΄ of \ fal ἀφέσεως κάλλιστα πάντα διάγει, προϊόντος δὲ τοῦ p. 27: ΠΛΑΤΏΝΟΣ χρόνου καὶ λήθης ἐγγιγνομένης ἐν αὐτῷ μᾶλλον καὶ / Ἀ lad qn / / δυναστεύει TO τῆς παλαιᾶς ἀναρμοστίας πάθος, τε- a ΄σ vad / \ \ λευτῶντος δὲ ἐξανθεῖ τοῦ χρόνου καὶ σμικρὰ μὲν ’ 7 Ν \ ‘ lal > / lal ’ stayaba, πολλὴν δὲ THY τῶν ἐναντίων κρᾶσιν ἐπεγκε- ραννύμενος ἐπὶ διαφθορᾶς κίνδυνον αὑτοῦ τε ἀφι- =~ ΩΝ a > e ΄σ Ν Ν Ν 13, 2. Ν ε κνεῖται καὶ τῶν ἐν αὑτῷ. διὸ δὴ καὶ TOT HON θεὸς ὁ UA > / an > > / 3) / κοσμήσας αὐτὸν, καθορῶν ev ἀπορίαις ὄντα, κηδό- μενος, ἵνα μὴ χειμασθεὶς ὑπὸ ταραχῆς διαλυθεὶς εἰς τῆς ἀφέσεως] Proximum quod- que ab remissione tempus. 2. μᾶλλον καὶ - πάθος] “The influence of the old habit of disorder also gains a greater ascendancy.” Plato’s use of πάθος, as of γένεσις, is often dificult to render from its generality. Cf. Theet. 193 d. 4. ἐξανθεῖ] “Breaks out into full bloom.” Se. τὸ τῆς dvappootias πάθος. Cf. infr. 310 d: τελευτῶσα δὲ ἐξανθεῖν παντάπασιν μανίαις. Aesch. Pers. 821.: ὕβρις yap ἐξανθοῦσ᾽ ἐκάρ- mace σταχὺν ἄτης. So Stallb. and Passow s.v. In what follows, the sentence returns to the ge- neral subject, 6 κόσμος. The other rendering, however, de- serves notice ; in which 6 κόσ- pos is the subject of ἐξανθεῖ, which is explained to mean “leaves blossoming,’ “ ceases to produce anything good.” 5. πολλὴν ----ἐπεγκεραννύμενος] “ Administering evil to itself in large measure.” ἐπεγκεραν- vopevos, lit. “ pouring into itself additionally.” The world is a great vessel, in which differ- ent elements are mixed: and during this cycle is itself the author of the mixture. (κρᾶσιν, abstract for concrete). Or per- haps the participle is passive, “ Receiving large admixture of evil.” (The passive of a verb which governs the dative in the active voice appears in Rep. 1, 337 a, and Legg. ΤΙ, 925 8, 926 a, 937b.) For the image, cf. Rep. 8, 562 c¢ : πόλις ἐλευθερίας διψήσασα κακῶν οἰνοχύων προστατούντων τύχῃ καιλ. For the force of the prefix in ἐπεγκεραννύμενος, cf. ἐπεγχέω, 6. g. Asch. Ag. 1137. 6. διαφθορᾶς] This word, if alone, would have been passive, but by the addition of the genitives is turned to an active meaning. 8. κηδόμενος ἵνα pn] “In care for the world that it may not” ἄορ. A similar feeling appears in Legg. 2, 653 ¢: θεοὶ δὲ οἰκτείραντες τὸ τῶν ἀνθρώ- mov ἐπίπονον πεφυκὸς γένος --- Μούσας ᾿Απόλλωνά τε μουσηγέτην καὶ Διόνυσον ξυνεορταστὰς ἔδοσαν, iv’ ἐπανορθῶνται τὰς τροφὰς γενο- μένας ἐν ταῖς ἑορταῖς μετὰ θεῶν. 9. ἵνα py — bin] “ Lest being tost with tempest it might be shaken in pieces and | ΠΟΛΙΤΊΚΟΣ. 67 273: τὸν τῆς ἀνομοιότητος ἄπειρον ὄντα τύπον δύῃ, πάλιν ἐφεδρος αὐτοῦ τῶν πηδαλίων γιγνόμενος, τὰ νοσή- σαντα καὶ λυθέντα ἐν τῇ καθ᾽ ἑαυτὸν προτέρᾳ περι- "ὃ Ψ ᾿ εἴ 1 ἐπανορθῶν ἀθάνατον ὁδῳ στρέψας, κοσμεῖ τε καὶ ἐπανορθῶ NN Wk) / 3 / - \ a / QUTOV και aynpav ἀπεργάζεται. TOUTO μὲν ουν τέλος 5 « ΄ 7 \ Ὁ Ὁ aks \ a ,ὕ > / ἁπάντων εἴρηται. τὸ δ᾽ ἐπὶ THY τοῦ βασιλέως ἀπο- « Ν » las 7 ε 7 al / δειξιν ἱκανὸν ἐκ τοῦ πρόσθεν ἁπτομένοις τοῦ λόγου. ΄ὕ \ 5 a , \ ἌΝ χ = στρεφθέντος yap av τοῦ κοσμου THY ἐπὶ THY νῦν f SENN x a ξ , 5 ΄ Ψ \ γένεσιν ὁδὸν TO TS ἡλικίας av παλιν ἱστατο καὶ founder in the abyss of dis- similitude.” For a glimpse of the darkening path towards this limbo of “chaos come again,” see Parm. 165 ; Tim. 48 e-52 ἃ. In the chaos of Anaxagoras, the ὁμοιομέρειαι were at least latent; but to this new and worse chaos even this degree of consistency is denied. The words ἄπειρον ὄντα recall Pythagorean asso- ciations. I. τόπον has been objected to. Stallbaum would read πόντον, and M. Wagner, in the Rheinische Museum, has sug- gested τυπόν, which is too ab- stract for the context (χει- μασθεὶς--- δύῃ). Stallbaum’s ob- jection (Displicet istud τόπον, quo metaphor elegantia pes- sumdatur) forgets the differ- ence between metaphor and allegory. The vagueness of τό- πος in Plato’s use (= “region”) exactly suits the passage. ΟἿ. Theet. 176 a; Phedr. 247 ¢, 274 ἃ; Soph. 254 a; Rep. G508) ce 7510}: 532d: τ; 614 ο. πάλιν ---- γιγνόμενος] “ Again presiding at the helm.” ἔφεδρος not = “successor,” (Ast. Lex. v.,) but according to the tragic use with the genitive, “seated on or at.” 3. ἐν τῇ---περιόδῳ] “ In the former circuit which the world made by himself.” καθ᾽ ἑαυτὸν depends on the verbal notion in περιόδῳ. 4. στρέψας] “ Having re- versed.” Not only arresting decay, but causing growth : τῇ τροπῇ συνανακυκλουμένης εἰς τἀναντία τῆς γενέσεως, as before. 5. τέλος ἁπάντων εἴρηται] Our account of each recurring cycle is complete. ‘“ The wheel is brought full circle.” 7. ἱκανὸν] Subaud. ἡμῖν λέγειν. ἐκ τοῦ πρόσθεν ἁπτομένοις τοῦ λόγου] “Taking hold of the story by the previous part.” I. 6. attaching what we have to say to an earlier point in the fable, viz. the φθορά mentioned in 273 a, as ensuing on the change from the obedient to the self-di- rected movement of the world. ὃ. τὴν -- ὁδόν] “ Towards the present operation οἵ na- ture.” Cf. note on γενέσεως, supr. 271 b. Ke the abyss of dissimili- tude, re- verses the process of decay, and restores him to im- mortal youth. The wheel is thus brought full cirele : but for our present purpose we must revert to the begin« ning of the period in which we live: when, the uni- verse being left to it- self, the bodies that were dwin- dling began to grow, and those which had just sprung in full ma- turity from the Earth, put on grey locks, and went be- neath the ground. Then, as 68 ΠΛΑΤΏΝΟΣ \ , / > o / \ \ Ν c Ν καινὰ τἀναντία ἀπεδίδου τοῖς τότε. τὰ μὲν yap υπο Pp. 278} / x, 7 ΄ > / a“ 4 σμικρότητος ὀλίγου δέοντα ἠφανίσθαι τῶν ζώων > / \ > > lal ΄σ΄ ͵ὕ \ / ηὐξάνετο, τὰ δ᾽ ἐκ γῆς νεογενῆ σώματα πολιὰ φύντα ΄ > U > - / Ν Ε᾽ ΄ πάλιν ἀποθνήσκοντα εἰς γὴν κατῃει. καὶ τάλλα TE ’, / > , επᾶντα μετέβαλλεν, ἀπομιμούμενα καὶ ξυνακολου- a ἴω A Ν / Ν \ Ν Ν Sed θοῦντα τῷ τοῦ παντὸς παθήματι, Kal δὴ καὶ TO τῆς / 5 / κυήσεως καὶ γεννήσεως Kal τροφῆς μίμημα συνείπετο ἴω a Ga) > 7, > \ fen OL5:3' 5, ~ > τοις πάσιν UIT avayKnsS. οὐ yap ἐξῆν eT ἐν YN δι lol \ 4 ἑτέρων συνιστάντων φύεσθαι ζῶον, ἀλλὰ καθάπερ a / 4 » ΄ 9S “ « ων Io TO KOO L@ TT POOETETAKTO AUTOKPATOPA ELVAL TIS AVTOV / o ᾽ν ᾿ (γον δὰ - ΄ ᾽ vad πορείας, οὕτω δὴ KATA ταὐτὰ καὶ τοῖς μέρεσιν αὑτοῖς 5 «ε lad GY oly ny 5. , Ν “ dt αὑτῶν, καθ᾽ ὅσον οἷόν T ἦν, φύειν τε καὶ γεννᾷν / 7 ce SS “ ες / > “ καὶ τρέφειν προσετάττετο ὑπὸ τῆς ὁμοίας ἀγωγῆς. οὗ δὲ ἕνεκα 0 λό 0 ἃς, ἐπ᾿ αὐτῷ νῦν ἐσμὲν ὁ λόγος ὥρμηκε πᾶς, ET ATE μ I. καινὰ---τότε] ‘“ Made an opposite inversion of the phe- nomena.” Ta μὲν yap—karje| Those who according to the previous order had risen from earth in full maturity, and had passed through the stages of youth and childhood, and were on the point of disappearing from the earth, returned to child- hood, youth, and manhood ; while those who had been lately born, and were there- fore in full maturity, instead of becoming more youthful, passed into old age and died and went below the ground— so preparing the soil for the next crop of earth-born men. 3. νεογενῆ] It is to be re- membered that they are al- ready full-grown. πολιὰ φύντα ῇ]Ὶ “ Having grown grey.” The aorist re- tains the temporal significa- tion. 6. τὸ--μίμημα] 1. 6. τὸ τῆς -- τροφῆς μεμιμημένον συνείπετο. dv ἐτέρων συνιστάντων] Se. θεῶν. Cf. Tim. 43a; Protag. 320d. 9. φύεσθαι ζῶον] Bodl. ALY ζώων. 13. ὑπὸ τῆς ὁμοίας ἀγωγῆς] By a similar entrainement, by an eddy from the same current. Cf. Phedr. 238 ὁ: νικήσασα ἀγωγῇ. Rep. 10,604b: ἐναντίας δὲ ἀγωγῆς γιγνομένης ἐν τῷ av- θρώπῳ. As the world is moved, so human beings are brought together, by destiny and innate desire (εἱμαρμένη καὶ σύμφυτος ἐπιθυμία) : οὐ γεωμετρικαῖς ἀλλ᾽ ἐρωτικαῖς ἀνάγκαι. (Rep. 5, 458 d.) 14. ἐπ᾽ αὐτῷ---ἐσμὲν] Cf. Rep. 5, 473 6: ἐπ᾽ αὐτὸ (v.1. αὐτῶ) δὴ εἶμι ὁ τῷ μεγίστῳ προσεικάζο- μὲν κύματι: Ib. 7, 532¢: er p- 274 ΠΟΛΙΤΊΚΟΣ. 09 274. ἤδη. περὶ μὲν γὰρ τῶν ἄλλων θηρίων πολλὰ ἂν καὶ μακρὰ διεξελθεῖν γίγνοιτο, ἐξ ὧν ἕκαστα καὶ Ov as αἰτίας μεταβέβληκε: περὶ δὲ ἀνθρώπων βραχύτερα = a / καὶ μᾶλλον προσήκοντα. “ Ν a τῆς γὰρ τοῦ κεκτημένου καὶ νέμοντος ἡμᾶς δαίμονος ἀπερημωθέντες ἐπιμε- 5 a lal 3 7 \ \ , λείας, τῶν πολλῶν αὖ θηρίων, ὅσα χαλεπὰ Tas φύ- 5 / > \ - yay σεις ἦν, ἀπαγριωθέντων, αὐτοὶ de ἀσθενεῖς ἄνθρωποι A ὦ , ΄ ,ὕ ee | IA N καὶ ἀφύλακτοι γεγονοτες, διηρπάζοντο ὑπ᾽ αὐτῶν, καὶ “4 / Ν a \ ἊΝ / 3 €T ἀμήχανοι καὶ ἄτεχνοι κατὰ τοὺς πρώτους ἦσαν χρόνους, ἅτε τῆς μὲν αὐτομάτης τροφῆς ἐπίιλελοι- το / / \ > > , , \ \ TTVLAS, πορίζεσθαι δὲ οὐκ ἐπιστάμενοί πω διὰ τὸ Χ Pg μηδεμίαν αὐτοὺς χρείαν πρότερον ἀναγκάζειν. ἐκ 7 ἊΝ 5 7 > / 53 “ Ν τούτων πάντων ἐν μεγάλαις ἀπορίαις ἦσαν. ὅθεν δὴ τὰ πάλαι λεχθέντα παρὰ θεῶν δῶρα ἡμῖν δεδώρηται > - Ν “ \ per ἀναγκαίας διδαχῆς καὶ παιδεύσεως, πῦρ μὲν παρὰ ἸΠρομηθέως, τέχναι δὲ παρ᾽ Ἡφαίστου καὶ τῆς αὐτῷ γίγνεται τῷ τοῦ νοητοῦ τέ- ε ε Ae. Soph. Cid. Rex. 1168: πρὸς αὐτῷ γ᾽ εἰμὶ TO δείνῳ λέγειν. 6. αὖ] Used here almost as a conjunction. χαλεπὰ] The opposite of tractable: fierce and unman- ageable. Cf. Rep. 6, 493 b, 500 a; bis. Legg. 11, 922 b, 950 b. 7. ἀσθενεῖς ---- καὶ ἀφύλακτοι] The myth at this point touches closely on that of Protagoras. Prot. 321 6: τὸν δὲ ἄνθρωπον γυμνόν τε καὶ ἀνυπόδητον καὶ ἄστρωτον καὶ ἄοπλον. The whole passage, giving an account of the origin of the arts of life, should be carefully compared with this. 11. διὰ τὸ μηδεμίαν ---- avay- xa¢ew| “ Because no previous necessity had driven them to invention.” Cf. Thet. 149 c: ἡ ἀνθρωπίνη φύσις ἀσθενεστέρα ἢ λαβεῖν τέχνην ὧν ἂν ἢ ἄπειρος. 14. τὰ πάλαι λεχθέντα! Still more of the existing fragments of mythology are incorporated into the Great Myth. 15. pet ἀναγκαίας διδαχῆς] The Deity “left not himself without witness.” The parts of the Universe were left to guide themselves as far as was possible (εἰς δύναμιν, supr. 273 a); but in their extreme need, such Divine instruction as they could not do without (ἀναγκαίας) was still afforded them. 16. καὶ τῆς συντέχνου]! CF. Prot. 321 6: τὸ τῆς ᾿Αθηνᾶς καὶ Ἡφαίστου οἴκημα τὸ κοινόν, ἐν ᾧ ἐφιλοτεχνείτην. Legg. 11, 921 d: Ἡφαίστου καὶ Ἀθηνᾶς ἱέρον τὸ τῶν δημιουργῶν γένος, οἱ τὸν the world was self- impelled, so the races of animals were left to propagate themselves, And men, being de- serted by their Di- vine Shep- herd, were torn by the now savage beasts, while the earth no longer gave them spon- taneous sustenance, W hence the gods, whostill ho- vered near, gave them fire, mecha- nical arts, the vine, the olive, the sustain- ing corn, accompa- nied with such in- struction as was indispen- sable: and thereafter left them to themselves. Such is the fable which we must now apply. The myth has brought to light the 15 70 ΠΛΑΤΏΩΝΟΣ , ΄ \ 5 N ‘ . Ἂμ 7 συντέχνου, σπέρματα de αὖ καὶ puta παρ ἄλλων Ν ΄ ’ € / Ν > / / καὶ πάνθ᾽ ὁπόσα τὸν ἀνθρώπινον βίον συγκατε- / > / / > Χ Ν \ ᾽ “ σκεύακεν, ἐκ τούτων γέγονεν, ἐπειδὴ τὸ μὲν ἐκ θεῶν, ὅπερ ἐρρήθη νῦν δή, τῆς ἐπιμελείας ἐπέλιπεν ἀνθρώ- ᾽ ς ta A / ‘ Ν \ ὅπους, Ot ἑαυτῶν δὲ ἔδει THY TE διαγωγὴν καὶ τὴν > / > Ν « cal y / ad ec ἐπιμέλειαν αὐτοὺς αὑτῶν exe καθάπερ ὁλος ὁ 7, Ὁ 7 , ‘ OWS Koo MOS, @ ξυμμιμούμενοι καὶ ξυνεπόμενοι τὸν ἀεὶ / A \ “ , \ > / ἴω / Ν χρόνον νῦν μὲν οὕτω, τότε δὲ ἐκείνως ζῶμέν τε καὶ , Ν Χ \ \ a , / > / φυόμεθα. Kai τὸ μὲν On τοῦ μύθου τέλος ἐχέτω, / δὲ EN / θ Ν Ν ὃ ΄σ ιοχρήσιμον O€ αὐτὸν ποιησομεθα πρὸς TO κατιόειν od ¢ ΄ > ΄ Χ Ρ ΄ Ny ὅσον ἡμάρτομεν ἀποφηνάμενοι Tov βασιλικὸν τε καὶ Χ lal / / πολιτικὸν ἐν τῷ πρόσθε λογῳ. NE. ΣΩΏ. Πῶς οὖν καὶ πόσον ἁμάρτημα φὴς εἶναι γεγονὸς ἡμῖν ; EE. Τῇ μὲν βραχύτερον, τῇ δὲ μάλα γενναῖον \ A ΄ ἂν / Ἃ “, καὶ πολλῷ μεῖζον καὶ πλέον ἢ τότε. βίον ἡμῖν ξυγκατεσκευάκασι τέ- χναις. I. map ἄλλων ]Ϊ Demeter and Cora, Triptolemus, Diony- sus. Cf. Legg. 7, 782 b. 3. TO—ek OeGv—rtis ἐπιμε- λείας] Double constr. with the article, τῆς émm. being added epexegetically. Cf. supr. 271 €: τὸ τῶν avOpamov λεχθὲν αὐ- τομάτου περὶ βίου. 7. ᾧ ξυμμιμούμενοι καὶ ξυνε- mopevat] Cf. supr. 2736 : ἀπο- μιμούμενα καὶ ξυνακολουθοῦντα---- μίμημα συνείπετο, Evy. appears to be added by a sort οἵ at- traction from ξυνεπ., by which the dative is in the first in- stance governed. It may per- haps occur to the student to render ξυμμιμούμενοι “helping the Universe to imitate (the movement of the Divine Hand) :” comparing supr. 273 a: τὴν τοῦ δημιουργοῦ καὶ πα- τρὸς ἀπομνημονεύων διδαχὴν εἰς δύναμιν, and infra 293 6, 297 6. And this sense would not be unsuitable to this expression taken singly, and to τὸ τῆς--- τροφῆς μίμημα. But these words cannot be interpreted apart from the previous phrase, peré- βαλλεν ἀπομιμούμενα καὶ ξυνακο- λουθοῦντα τῷ τοῦ παντὸς παθήματι, which can only be rendered in one way. 9. τέλος ἐχέτω] Cf. Phedo 71 Ὁ; Legg. 4, 717 6. II. ὅσον ἡμάρτομεν] Cf. 268 b,c: πῶς ἂν οὖν ἡμῖν ὁ λόγος ὀρθὸς φανεῖται καὶ ἀκέραιος ὁ περὶ τοῦ βασιλέως κ.τ.λ. 15. Τῇ μὲν βραχύτερον] “ Our —o ΠΟΛΙΤΙΚΟΣ. 71 274. NE. ΣΏΩ. [los ; real grava- ἘΞ Ψ \ ᾿ ͵ Ν 5 ἘΞ ᾿ς men of our BE. Ὅτι μὲν ἐρωτώμενοι Tov ἐκ τῆς νῦν περι- error. ἊΣ x ἢ ; ἕ ἐξ τ 4 Our defini- φορᾶς καὶ γενέσεως βασιλέα καὶ πολιτικὸν τὸν ἐκ tion of the ruler of the a 5 ie / / ΄σ / > / τῆς ἐναντίας περιόδου ποιμένα τῆς τότε ἀνθρωπίνης state is not mistake in one way is less im- portant” (than in another of which we are now to speak —not Bp. ἢ τότε). (15.) μάλα γενναῖον] “We have erred on a grand scale, and our error is much more serious and important than I then af- firmed it to be.” Cf. Phedr. 257 6: συχνὸν διαμαρτάνεις. γεν- ναῖος is often used with reference to size, cf. Rep. 2, 372 b. Our object was not only to shew that the king has many rivals ᾿ amongst his flock, but also to see an image of the “ king in his beauty,” and to establish his sole authority above other artists. The image is found, however, to transcend the re- ality of the office in the present order of the world, in which the statesmen are not Gods but men, whose natures and training are not far different from those whom they seek to rule. (16.) τότε] Se. ἔφην. In speaking of the king as the herdsman of men we erred in two ways—first, while truly as- serting that his rule extended to the whole state, we did not sufficiently define the man- ner of his rule; so that our definition included some func- tions which belong to other craftsmen : and secondly, which is of more importance, we con- fused the Statesman of this present cycle with the Divine shepherd of the golden age. 2. τὸν ἐκ τῆς νῦν--- γενέσεως βασιλέα] Cf. Legg. 5, 740 a, where the community of goods is said to be μεῖζον ἢ κατὰ τὴν νῦν γένεσιν καὶ τροφὴν καὶ παί- ΤΌ. 9, 853 6: ἐπειδὴ δὲ 3 ΄ c ‘ 4 ov, καθάπερ οἱ παλαιοὶ νομοθέται δευσιν. θεῶν παισὶ νομοθετούμενοι τοῖς ἥρωσιν, ὡς 6 νῦν λόγος, αὐτοί τ᾽ ἐκ θεῶν ὄντες ἄλλοις τε ἐκ τοιού- τῶν γεγονόσιν ἐνομοθέτουν, ἀλλ᾽ ἀνθρωποί τε καὶ ἀνθρώπων σπέρ- μασι νομοθετοῦμεν τὰ νῦν, ἀνεμέ- σητον δὴ φοβεῖσθαι κ-.τ.λ. The same thought is present also in Legg. 10, 906: τὰς τῶν φυλάκων ψυχὰς--κυνῶν ἢ Tas τῶν νομέων ἢ---τὰς τῶν παντάπασιν ἀκροτάτων δεσποτῶν. Compare also Parm. 134 d: Οὐκοῦν εἰ παρὰ τῷ θεῷ αὐτὴ ἐστὶν ἡ ἀκριβε- στάτη δεσποτεία καὶ αὐτὴ ἡ ἀκρι- βεστάτη ἐπιστήμη κιτιλ. Arist. Pol. III. 8: ὥσπερ θεὸν ἐν ἀν- θρώποις εἰκὸς εἶναι τὸν τοιοῦτον (τὸν διαφέροντα κατ᾽ ἀρετῆς ὑπερ- βολήν). 6. παρηνέχθημεν)ὺ “ Went astray.” Cf. Phileb. 60 d: εἰ δέ γε παρηνέχθημέν τι τότε, νῦν ὁστισοῦν ἐπαναλαβὼν ὀρθότερον εἰπάτω. | SEE 5} \ a \ amet. - , merely in- 275. ayeAns εἴπομεν, καὶ ταῦτα θεὸν ἀντὶ θνητοῦ, ταὐυτ 5 adequate, \ ΄ 7, Banco! Si asc ΄ Ξ as we fear- μεν πάμπολυ παρηνέχθημεν" OTL δὲ ξυμπασὴς τῆς ed, but, , » > N » 7ὔ of \ / what is πόλεως ἄρχοντα αὑτὸν ἀπεφήναμεν, OVTWVA δὲ τρόπον — more se- rious, we have con- fused the modern Statesman with the Divine Shepherd, The myth was intro- duced that we might see ina clearer light the image of the king. 72 ITAATQNOZ ov διείπομεν, ταύτῃ δὲ αὖ TO μὲν λεχθὲν ἀληθές, οὐ p. 27. 1] μὴν ὅλον γε οὐδὲ σαφὲς ἐρρήθη, διὸ καὶ βραχύτερον x ee) a c 7 7) ΚΑΤ €EKELVO ἡ μαρτήκαμεν. NE. 50. ᾿Δληδῃ. ἘΠῚ Δ a / Ν / ε » ὃ / ee J. ει TOLVUY TOV τρόπον, WS EOLKE, OLOPLOAVTAS ω > ad vad / “ / Ν Ἀ τῆς apxns τῆς πόλεως οὕτω τελέως τον πολιτικὸν ἡμῖν εἰρῆσθαι προσδοκᾷν. NE. 20. Kados. BE. Διὰ ταῦτα μὴν καὶ τὸν μῦθον παρεθέμεθα, “ bd / Ν “ > / Χ ΄, « τοΐἵνα ἐνδείζαιτο περὶ τῆς ἀγελαιοτροφίας μὴ μόνον ws / Ey Ata) Aa lal / \ ΄ πάντες αὐτῆς ἀμφισβητοῦσι τῷ ζητουμένῳ τὰ νῦν, » Ν > “ ΤΣ > / 5) ΟΣ ἀλλὰ κἀκεῖνον αὐτὸν ἐναργέστερον ἴδοιμεν, ὃν προσ- if / \ XN 7 / Ν KEL, μόνον κατὰ TO παράδειγμα ποιμέενῶν TE Και / a ’ / > , ya = BovkoAwy τῆς ἀνθρωπίνης ἐπιμελειαν ἔχοντα τροφῆς, NE. ΣΩ. Ὀρθῶς. EE. Οἶμαι δέ γ᾽, ὦ I. ταύτῃ δὲ αὖ] δὲ repeated in the apodosis. τὸ μὲν--- ἀληθὲ] This was said previously, p. 268 ὁ: οὐ μέντοι ἀπειργασμένοι ye εἶμέν πω δύ ἀκριβείας k.T.d. 6. τῆς ἀρχῆς τῆς πόλεως] “Οἵ his rule over the city.” In what follows, it is shewn that, although distinguished from others, his function is still su- preme. 9. παρεθέμεθα] “Introduced.” Cf. Phileb. 46 b: οὐ μὴν Φιλήβου γε ἕνεκα παρεθέμην τὸν λόγον. Phedo 65 6: μήτε τὴν ὄψιν παραθέμενος ἐν τῷ διανοεῖσθαι. 10. ἵνα ἐνδείξαιτο----κμὴ μόνον---- ἀλλ᾽ ἴδοιμεν] The structure of the sentence is slightly altered by the change of subject. / / a an / 15 TOUTOU [LOVOV ἀξιωθῆναι του προσρηματος. if > \ f Σώκρατες, τοῦτο μὲν ἔτι Il. τῷ ζητουμένῳ τανῦν] 1. 6. τῷ πολιτικῷ. For a similar formal allusion to the subject of inquiry, cf. Soph. 2230: οὐ fe τι φαύλης μέτοχόν ἐστι τέχνης τὸ νῦν ζητούμενον, ἀλλ᾽ εὖ μάλα ποικίλης. Phileb. 50 b: τὰ νῦν πολλάκις λεγόμενα. Cf. Gorg. 451 6: οὐδέν πω σαφές. Tim. 49 a: εἴρηται μὲν τἀληθές, δεῖ δ᾽ ἐναργέστερον εἰπεῖν περὶαὐτοῦ. 12. ὃν προσήκει, μόνον---προσ- ρήματος] “Τὸ whom it belongs, having, in accordance with our image, alone of shepherds and herdsmen the care of human nurture, alone to be thought worthy of this title.” The order of the words is pecu- liar, as is the case frequently throughout these dialogues. | ( ΠΟΛΙΤΊΚΟΣ. 79 ἮΝ ΕἾ \ 5 - \ a γ75. μεῖζον ἢ κατὰ βασιλέα εἶναι TO σχῆμα τὸ τοῦ θείου [4 \ > > / “ + \ rn © νομέως, τοὺς δ᾽ ἐνθαδε νῦν ὄντας πολιτικοὺς τοῖς 3 / ε ͵ 9 “- \ \ / ἀρχομένοις ὁμοίους TE εἰναι μᾶλλον πολὺ Tas φύσεις Ν , / / ‘ καὶ παραπλησιαίτερον παιδείας μετειληφέναι καὶ τροφῆς. NE. >Q. Πάντως που. a iy \ \ Ἃ 7 3, mE. Ζητητέοι γε μὴν οὐδὲν ἂν εἴησαν οὔθ᾽ ἴοι δ a af? “ wpaty ΓΤ , , nTTOV οὔτε μᾶλλον, εἰθ οὕτως EIT ἐκείνως πεφυ- κασιν. NE. ΣΏ. Πώς γὰρ οὔ; EE. Tide δὴ πάλιν ἐπανέλθωμεν. ἣν γὰρ ἔφαμεν 3 Χ \ 53 / > Ν 7 » \ αὐτεπιτακτικὴν μὲν εἶναι [τέχνην] ἐπὶ ζώοις, οὐ μὴν ἰδί χλλὰ a NX > aN xy ὡς ἰοιὰ γε a a KOLWY) THY ἐπιμέελείαν εχουσᾶν,. και , on , » θὺ 3 λ 7 7ὕ προσείπομεν δὴ τότε εὐθὺς ἀγελαιοτροφικὴην,---μέ- μνησαι γάρ : NE. ΣΩ. Nai. EE. Ταύτης τοίνυν πη διημαρτάνομεν. τὸν yap Ν > a ’ >” 5 7 πολιτικὸν οὐδαμοῦ συνελάβομεν οὐδ᾽ ὠνομάσαμεν, » 3 e a a N A > / 3 Ly ἀλλ᾽ ημᾶς ἐλαθε κατὰ τὴν ὀνομασίαν ἐκφυγῶν. NE. 2Q. Πώς; = “ \ / ΄ / las \ HE. Τοῦ τὰς ἀγέλας ἑκάστας τρέφειν τοῖς μὲν yA a / val lod ω \ ἄλλοις TOU πᾶσι μέτεστι νομεῦσι, τῷ πολιτικῷ δὲ 3. μᾶλλον πολὺ] So all the MSS. except Ven. "Ξ., which, with the old editions, has πολὺ μᾶλλον. ‘The inversion is per- fectly in keeping with the ge- neral style. For τῆς, supra, most MSS. have τόν. And the Bodl. has ἐπιμελείας, with ATI. 4. Ζητητέοι-- πεφύκασιν] Ac- cording to the principle laid down in Soph. 227 b, and re- peated supr. 266 d, that de minimus ceque ac de maximis curat scientia. 11. ἐπανέλθωμεν] “ Let us re- trace our steps.” 14. ἀγελαιοτροφικήν | 262 6. 17. Ταύτης --- διημαρτάνομεν] “Our error lay somewhere in this.” The genitive is governed by πῃ; and not by the verb. IQ. κατὰ τὴν ὀνομασίαν] The verbal noun ὀνομ. occurs here for the first time in Greek literature. Supr. ae But the form that we have seen is higher than the states- men of the earth, who are but men. On retra- cing our steps, we find that we gave too narrow a designa- tion to the 15 art which is sove- relon over living crea- tures. An “art of nurture” does not include the Statesman at all, though the name ap- plies to all other herdsmen. We should have spo- ken more generally of an art of tending. And then by follow- ing the same series of divisions 15 & we before employed, 74 MAATOQNOZ > \ 3, / ΄“ “ > ih οὐ μετὸν ἐπηνέγκαμεν τοὔνομα, δέον τῶν κοινῶν ET- p. 47} ἐνεγκεῖν τι ξύμπασιν. NE. ΣΏΩ. ᾿Αληθῆ λέγεις, εἴπερ ἐτύγχανε γε OV. EE. Πῶς δ᾽ οὐκ ἦν τό γε θεραπεύειν ποῦ πᾶσι skowvov, μηδὲν διορισθείσης τροφῆς μηδέ τινος ἄλλης πραγματείας ; ἀλλ᾽ ἢ τινα ἀγελαιοκομικὴν ἢ θερα- Ν Ἃ / > \ 3. a > ’ TEVTLKYY ἢ Και τινα ἐπιμελητικὴν αὐτὴν ονομασασιν, «ε ἈΝ / 5 Ta) / Ν 3 ως KATA TAVTOYV, ἐξὴν περικαλυπτειν καὶ τὸν πολι- Χ “ la yy » \ lad mn 3 5 / τικὸν ἅμα τοῖς ἄλλοις, ἐπειδὴ [δεῖν] τοῦτ᾽ ἐσήμαινεν 100 λόγος. NE. ΣΏ. Ὀρθῶς. ἀλλ᾽ ἡ μετὰ τοῦτο διαίρεσις 5 7 / ae 17, > + αὖ TWA τρόπον ἐγίγνετ ἂν; EE. Κατὰ ταὐτὰ καθ᾽ ἅπερ ἔμπροσθεν διῃρού- \ Ἂν σ΄ a μεθα τὴν ἀγελαιοτροφικὴν πεζοῖς τε καὶ ἀπτῆσι, καὶ » 7 ΄ > lal » fe μίκτοις TE καὶ AKEPATOLS, τοῖς αὐτοῖς ἂν που τούτοις / Ν Ν 7 a Ν διαιρούμενοι καὶ τὴν ἀγελαιοκομικὴν τὴν τε νῦν καὶ 2. ξύμπασιν] Governed by κοινῶν. 3. ὄν] Se. κοινόν τι. 4. ἦν---ἐξῆν----ἐσήμαινεν] The imperfect is used because we are imagining what might have been done. 6. θεραπευτικὴν----ἐπιμελητικὴν] The prefix ἀγελαιο- is to be resumed in thought with each of these words. 8. ὡς κατὰ πάντων] “ For the general expression” —“ for the generic name.” 9. [δεῖν] τοῦτο] Se. ποιεῖν. δεῖν om. Bodl. ΔΠ. 12. ἐγίγνετ] Bodl. ἐγγίγνετ᾽. 13. Κατὰ ravta—rois αὐτοῖς] Note the resumption. 15. ἀμίκτοις Te καὶ ἀκεράτοις] Thus the twofold distinction is resumed. Supr. 265 d. τοῖς αὐτοῖς ---ἐν τῷ λόγῳ] “ Dividing by means of these same differences the care of herds also, we should have comprehended in the terms of our definition alike the present kingship (τὴν νῦν βασιλείαν) and the royal dignity which existed in the time of Kronos.” Al- though the former term ex- cluded one of these, that now employed includes them both. 16. ἀγελαιοκομικὴν -js] A va- rious reading in both places is -vopix-. The word ἀγελαιοκομική is of course invented for the occasion, ἀγελαιοκόμος would be derived, like ἱπποκόμος (vy. supr. 261 d), from κομεῖν or κο- μίζειν, in the sense of “tend- ing.” “ Tf the name had been thus expressed under the form of tendance, we clearly should not e Ρ. 27 ΠΟΛΙΤΊΚΟΣ. 75 Ν ᾽ 3 5 76. τὴν ἐπὶ Κρόνου βασιλείαν περιειληφότες ἂν ἦμεν we should lave in- ὁμοίως ἐν τῷ λόγῳ. cluded al = ‘ a Divine anc NE. 30. Φαίνεται: ζητῶ δὲ αὖ τί τὸ μετὰ τοῦτο ; human a o ° ~ ra > sovereigns HE. Δῆλον ore λεχθέντος οὕτω τοῦ τῆς ἀγελαιο- under one form. cal > , > 37 / > « lal / κομικῆς ὀνόματος οὐκ ἂν ποτ᾽ ἐγένεθ᾽ ἡμῖν TO τινας 5 ) lot « In > 4 Ἃ 7 ᾿ 7 ἀμφισβητεῖν ὡς οὐδ᾽ ἐπιμέλεια τὸ παράπαν ἐστίν, ὥσπερ τότε δικαίως ἠμφισβητήθη μηδεμίαν εἶναι / aN / / a a τέχνην ἐν ἡμῖν ἀξίαν τούτου τοῦ θρεπτικοῦ προσ- Α > > iy - “ woes ρήματος" εἰ δ᾽ οὖν τις εἴη, πολλοῖς πρότερον αὐτῆς \ ca) LA yx “ / καὶ μᾶλλον προσήκειν ἢ τινι τῶν βασιλέων. 10 NE. 2Q. ‘Opéas. — > / / ’ ΄ BE. ᾿Επιμέλεια δέ γε ἀνθρωπίνης συμπάσης κοι- / > / Ἂ » , ΡΥ, cal Ν νωνίας οὐδεμία ἂν ἐθελήσειεν ἑτέρα μᾶλλον καὶ / > “ ΄ \ 4 προτέρα τῆς βασιλικῆς φάναι καὶ κατὰ πάντων ; at a ἀνθρώπων ἀρχῆς εἶναι τέχνη. 15 NE. 30. Λέγεις ὀρθῶς. by \ a / 3 5 » HE. Μετὰ ταῦτα δέ γε, ὦ Σώκρατες, ap ἐννο- a σ ἊΝ ᾽ “ Χ fas / XN 53 οὔμεν OTL πρὸς αὐτῷ δὴ τῷ τέλει συχνὸν αὖ διημαρ- 7 TQVETO : have been troubled with the objection that there was no sort of care of men, as it was then fairly objected that we had no art amongst us which merited this attribute of nur- ture, and, moreover, if there was, there were many who might claim a share in such an art more easily than a king.” 5. eyeve?’] So the Bodleian as well as the Coislinian MS. 12. ᾿Επιμέλεια δέ γε---- τέχνη] MSN. πραοτέρα: in the Bodl. without any accent. “ But there is none” (i.e. no art: τέχνη is understood from what precedes and follows) “ which rather and sooner than king- craft, would claim to be a mode of tendance of human society as a whole, and to be an art of sovereignty over- taking all men.” προτέρα for mpaotépa would be almost re- quired by the context (πρότερον —kal μᾶλλον, supr.) even if any good meaning could be given to the latter word. Stallbaum makes the last word, τέχνη, the subject, and joins ἐπιμέλεια dp- x7s—but ἐπιμέλεια and ἀρχὴ are co-ordinate, and not interde- pendent. 18. πρὸς ait@—7@ τέλει] The former error has been detected in an early stage of the process ἘΣ, 2 But we made the further error of neglecting to divide this. 76 NE. >Q. To ποῖον: MAATOQNOZ « 9 > “ f EE. Τόδε, ὡς ap εἰ καὶ διενοήθημεν 6 τι μά- κι 3 5 \ Lista τῆς δίποδος ἀγέλης εἶναί τινα θρεπτικὴν » val c a 3, A > τέχνην, οὐδέν TL μᾶλλον ἡμᾶς ἔδει βασιλικὴν av- ᾿Ξ \ > x Ν \ e > / ὅτὴν εὐθὺς καὶ πολιτικὴν ὡς ἀποτετελεσμένην προσ-- / αγορευειν. ΝΗ ΣΟ ἫΝ μη]: EE. Πρῶτον μὲν, ὃ Ἐλέγομεν Ἑ, τοὔνομα μετα- ͵ Ἂν Ν 3 / a) σκευωρήσασθαι, πρὸς τὴν ἐπιμέλειαν μᾶλλον προσ- / x \ 7 y / ΄, A ᾽ 1oayayovTas ἢ τὴν τροφὴν, ἔπειτα ταύτην τέμνειν" οὐ ap σμικρὰς ἂν ἔχοι τμήσεις ἔτι. γὰρ σμικρ χοι τμή ΝΕ. ΣΏ. Ποίας: of division: that now to be named is an omission with which we were chargeable at the close. Supr. 267 α. (18.) συχνὸν διημαρτάνετο | “We erred largely.” Cf, Pheedr. 257 ©: συχνὸν διαμαρτάνεις. 2. Τόδε — προσαγορεύειν | “ This was our mistake, that it might be said (ἄρα) that how- ever clear we were as to the existence of a nurturing art, we were not therefore justified in at once calling this by the names of ‘ kingcraft’ and ‘state- craft,’ as if perfectly defined.” 7. Ti μὴν ;) Se. ἔδει ; “ Why, what ought we to have done Ὁ See note on τί μὴν ; supr. 258 b. 8. Πρῶτον μὲν ὃ ἔλέγομεν Ἔ] Bodl. AT. ἐλέγομεν : cett. ὃ ἐλέγ- ομεν. Cf, Rep. 3, 402 c: ἄρ᾽ οὖν, ὃ λέγω, πρὸς θεῶν, οὕτως οὐδὲ μουσικοὶ πρότερον ἐσόμεθα---. Ib. 5, 464 6: ἄρ᾽ οὖν οὐχ, ὅπερ λέγω, τά τε πρόσθεν εἰρημένα καὶ τὰ νῦν λεγόμενα ἔτι μᾶλλον ἀπερ- γάζεται αὐτοὺς ἀληθινοὺς φύ- λακας; Lege. 3,681 b: εἰς τοὺς παῖδας ἀποτυπουμένους καὶ παίδων παῖδας, ὃ λέγομεν, ἥκειν κιτ.λ, Compare Thezt. 188 ¢: 6 @- τοῦμεν : Where Bodl. ΔΠ. give ἐζητοῦμεν. μετασκευωρήσασθαι] Se. ἔδει. “We ought first, as we are now saying, to have remo- delled the name.” The word is ἅπαξ λεγόμενον, and it is a little difficult to catch the exact shade of association which sug- gested it. The literal meaning is “to rearrange furniture :” and the word is perhaps chosen because this step is prepara- tory to the real business in hand, since names are the fur- niture or utensils (σκεύη) of thought. Cf. Rep. 7,540 6: δια- σκευωρήσονται THY ἑαυτῶν πόλιν. 9. ἐπιμέλεια»"͵ὴ The word is used technically by Aristotle, Pol. VII. 14: σχεδὸν δὴ πάντα ταῦτα συμβαίνει κατὰ μίαν ἐπιμέ- λειαν. 10. ταύτην] Se. τὴν οὕτω μετω- νομασμένην (ἐπιμελητικὴν) τέχνην. γ6. ΠΟΛΙΤΙΚΟΣ. Yi HE. “He τε τὸν θεῖον av που διειλόμεθα νομέα χωρὶς καὶ τὸν ἀνθρώπινον ἐπιμελητήν. NE. 2Q. ᾿Ορθῶς. RE. Αὖθις δέ ye τὴν ἀπονεμηθεῖσαν ἐπιμελητικὴν δίχα τέμνειν ἀναγκαῖον ἦν. ΝΗ ΣΟ. Tir ; EE. Τῷ βιαίῳ τε καὶ ἑκουσίῳ. NE. >Q. Τί δή; = Ν 7 Χ / « 7, mE. Καὶ tavrn που τὸ πρότερον ἁμαρτάνοντες 5» / a / > STEN / \ , εὐηθέστερα τοῦ δέοντος εἰς TavTov βασιλέα καὶ TU- ραννον ξυνέθεμεν, ἀνομοιοτάτους ὄντας αὐτούς τε καὶ τὸν τῆς ἀρχῆς ἑκατέρου τρόπον. NE. ΣΏ. ᾿Αληθῆ. HE. Νῦν δέ γε πάλιν ἐπανορθούμενοι, καθάπερ τ" \ > / 5 \ / ΄ εἶπον, τὴν ἀνθρωπίνην ἐπιμελητικὴν δίχα διαιρώμεθα, a , \ ¢ “ τῷ βιαίῳ τε καὶ EKOVOLO ; “4 3 NE. 30. Πᾶανυ μὲν οὖν. SE. Καὶ τὴν μέν γέ που τῶν βιαίων τυραννικήν, \ WaeG 4 Nie / / 3 Χ τὴν δὲ ἑκούσιον καὶ ἑκουσίων διποδων ἀγελαιοκομικὴν I. “He τε--- Αὖθις δέ ye] The correspondence of clauses is not strictly preserved. 4. ἀπονεμηθεῖσαν] 1. 6. “ As- signed to the human ruler.” The word is partly suggested by a false echo from νομέα. 6. Τίνι----ἑκουσίῳ] “ By what mark of distinction? That be- tween the compulsory and the voluntary.” Cf. 265 d: σχιστῷ καὶ--μώνυχι, alib. 10. εὐηθέστερα τοῦ δέοντος | “ With undesirable simplicity 1" a simplicity that might cost us dear. Cf. Rep. 3, 409 a: εὐηθεῖς — καὶ εὐεξαπάτητοι ὑπὸ τῶν ἀδίκων. Ib. το, 598 d. τῷ c II. αὐτούς τε καὶ τὸν--τρόπον] “ Most unlike in themselves, as also the mode of either’s government is most unlike.” Cf. Symp. 221 ἃ: οἷος---οὑτοσὶ γέγονε τὴν ἀτοπίαν ἄνθρωπος, καὶ αὐτὸς καὶ οἱ λόγοι αὐτοῦ. 15. ἀνθρωπίνην ἐπιμελητικὴν | “The human art of superin- tendence” as distinguished from the Divine. 18. τὴν--- τῶν βιαίων] “ The superintendence of the violent.” The genitives βιαίων and ἑκου- σίων are different, the former pointing to the rulers, the latter to the persons ruled. 1g. τὴν δὲ---ζ(ώων} “That tend- We should have dis- tinguished, first, the Divine Shepherd from the human ruler, and then, the king of a willing people from the tyrant ofunwilling subjects, than which no differ- ence can be greater, But this is not all. Even with the cum- brous help of our Ἂ « ἴω a Y 5QV μιν OUTWS EXELV 78 ΠΛΑΤΩΝΟΣ -/ , ΄ Ν "7 3 / “r ζώων προσειπόντες πολιτικὴν, TOY ἔχοντα αὖ τέχνην P+ 2.17’ / > 5, 4 / Ν ταύτην καὶ ἐπιμέλειαν ὄντως ὄντα βασιλέα καὶ πολι- \ > ͵7 τικὸν ἀποφαινώμεθα ; ΄ Ψ / NE. 2Q. Καὶ κινδυνεύει γε, ὦ Eeve, τελέως δειξις. EE. Καλῶς av, ὦ Σώκρατες, ἡμῖν ἔχοι. « Ν Ν Ν > / ἡ περὶ TOV πολιτικον ἄἅπο- δεῖ δὲ Χ Ν a 2 \ > Ν \ “ pu μὴ σοὶ μόνῳ ταῦτα, ἀλλὰ καἀμοὶ μετὰ TOV κοινῃ - a \ ΄, Ν ce. y / ξυνδοκεῖν. νῦν δὲ κατά ye τὴν ἐμὴν οὔπω φαίνεται / ἊΝ a a 27 > \ / pens fa- τοτέλεον ὁ βασιλεὺς ἡμῖν σχῆμα ἔχειν, ἀλλὰ καθάπερ Θ we have only obtained a shadowy outline of our subject. > Ν Ν Ν a, / / ἀνδριαντοποιοὶ παρα καιρον E€VLOTE σπεύδοντες πλείω / “ ° lo y > / καὶ μείζω τοῦ δέοντος ἕκαστα τῶν ἔργων ἐπεμβαλλό- / lat « rn fod Χ x “ μενοι βραδύνουσι, καὶ νῦν ἡμεῖς, ἵνα δὴ πρὸς τῷ \ νΝ rn J Ν “ yy ταχὺ Kal μεγαλοπρεπῶς δηλώσαιμεν TO τῆς εμ- ance of animals in herds whose principle is voluntary and whose subjects are bipeds hay- ing free will.” 8. κοίνῃῇ! Cf. supr. 260 Ὁ: τούτου τοίνυν (τοῦ ὁμονοεῖν) pé- χριπερ ἂν αὐτοὶ κοινωνῶμεν, ἐατέον τά γε τῶν ἄλλων δοξάσματα χαί- ρειν. 2586: τοῦτο ἤδη σον, οἶμαι, τὸ ἔργον, ὦ ξένε, ἀλλ᾽ οὐκ ἐμὸν γίγνεται. Ξ. Δεῖ ye μὴν---- αὐτὸ εἶναι καὶ σόν. 9. κατά γε τὴν ἐμήν CF. Phileb. 41 b. 11. πλείω καὶ μείζω is governed by ἐπεμβ., and does not agree with ἕκαστα τῶν ἔργων, which is governed by βραδύνουσι. 12. ἕκαστα τῶν ἔργων] Badh. conj. τῷ ἔργῳ. But there is no need of change if the words are taken alternately, as often in these dialogues, and βραδυν. be transitive :—Spadvvovow ék- 15mpoobev ἁμάρτημα διεξόδου, TH βασιλεῖ νομίσαντες αστα τῶν ἔργων ἐπεμβαλλόμενοι μείζω καὶ πλέω τοῦ δέοντος. Τῇ this is thought harsh, I should prefer to read ἑκάστοις. emepBardopevac | ““ Throw- ing in additional material.” Cf. Tim. 51 d: οὔτ᾽ ἐπὶ λόγου μήκει πάρεργον ἄλλο μῆκος ἐπεμ- βλητέον. The middle voice sig- nifies “‘into their own work.” 13. ἵνα πρὸς τῷ ταχὺ καὶ peya- λοπρεπῶς] “That not only with speed but with magnificence.” πρὸς τῷ ταχὺ Sc. δηλῶσαι. πρὸς τῷ ταχεῖ would be a more usual expression, but the ad- verb is suggested by the suc- ceeding adverb. 14. τὸ---διεξόδου] Stallbaum well compares Tim. 39 d: πρὸς τὴν τῆς διαιωνίας μίμησιν φύσεως. Ib. 506, Hipp. Maj. 300 «. 15. βασιλεῖ] Governed partly by πρέπειν, partly by ποιεῖσθαι. Ρ. 2; ΠΟΛΙΤΙΚΟΣ. 79 77. πρέπειν μεγάλα παραδείγματα ποιεῖσθαι, θαυμαστὸν ᾿ 3 ΄ὔ fal / / a / ’ ὄγκον ἀράμενοι τοῦ μύθου, μείζονι τοῦ δέοντος ἠναγ- κάσθημεν αὐτοῦ μέρει προσχρήσασθαι. διὸ μακρο- ΄ ‘ Day? ΄ N ΄ a τεραν Τὴν ἀπόδειξιν πεποιίηκαμὲεν καὶ πᾶντως T@ > > ΄σ « / μύθῳ τέλος οὐκ ἐπέθεμεν, ἀλλ᾽ ἀτεχνῶς ὁ doyoss ΩΣ “ las \ 54 \ \ yy ἡμῖν ὥσπερ ζῶον τὴν ἔξωθεν μὲν περιγραφὴν ἔοικεν « a 4 ἊΝ \ - cad Δ Ν “ ἱκανῶς ἔχειν, τὴν δὲ οἷον τοῖς φαρμάκοις καὶ τῇ ’ὔ’ ray / , , > Ov/YKpacel TOV χρωμαάτῶν EVAPYELAV OUK ἀπειλη- I, θαυμαστὸν ὄγκον----τοῦ μύ- θου] “Taking up in the fable, as if were, a monstrous lump, we have been obliged to use more of it than was good for our purpose.” The image of the statuary (or modeller) is continued. But there is also in ὄγκον ἀράμενοι an association from the other meaning of dy- κον αἴρειν, to assume a lofty vein. Cf, Soph. Aj.129: μηδ᾽ ὄγκον ἄρῃς μηδέν᾽. 2. τοῦ μύθου is a genitive of apposition or of respect. Cf. Protag. 329 a: δολιχὸν κατα- τείνας τοῦ λόγου. 4. πάντως] “ With all,” like the Homeric ἔμπης. 6. ὥσπερ ζῶον] “ Like a pic- ture” of some living thing. The illustration passes from statuary to painting. 7. τῇ συγκράσει τῶν χρωμά- των] “Harmony of colour.” Cf. Legg. 6, 768 ¢: οἷον περι- γραφή τις ἔξωθεν περιγεγραμμένη τὰ μὲν εἴρηκε, τὰ δ᾽ ἀπολείπει σχεδόν. Ib. ἃ : τὸ δὲ ὅλον καὶ ἀκριβὲς περὶ ἑνός τε καὶ πάντων τῶν κατὰ πόλιν καὶ πολιτικὴν πᾶσαν διοικήσεων οὐκ ἔστι γενέ- σθαι σαφές, πρὶν ἂν ἡ διέξοδος ἀπ᾽ ἀρχῆς τά τε δεύτερα καὶ τὰ μέσα καὶ πάντα μέρη τὰ ἑαυτῆς ἀπολαβοῦσα πρὸς τέλος ἀφίκηται. Ib. 769 b: καθάπερ ζωγράφων οὐδὲν πέρας ἔχειν ἡ πραγματεία δοκεῖ περὶ ἕκαστον τῶν ζώων, ἀλλ᾽ ἢ τοῦ χραίνειν ἢ ἀποχραίνειν, ἢ 6 τι δὴ καλοῦσι τὸ τοιοῦτον οἱ ζωγράφων παῖδες, οὐκ ἄν ποτε μοι δοκεῖ παύσασθαι κοσμοῦσα, ὥστ᾽ ἐπίδοσιν μηκέτ᾽ ἔχειν εἰς τὸ καλ- λίω τε καὶ φανερώτερα γίγνεσθαι τὰ γεγραμμέναυ The question, How far is the requirement of artistic proportion appli- eable to philosophical dis- course? is partly suggested here, and is fully discussed in the sequel. Plato’s contempt of the mere artist comes out in the same passage (769 c): ἐντριβὴς----οὐδα- μῶς γέγονα τῇ τοιαύτῃ τέχνῃ. ΑΘ. Καὶ οὐδέν γε ἐβλάβης. Com- pare Soph. 234. 8. ἐνάργειαν] “ Distinctness.” Here, as in Theext. 203 Ὁ, the Bodl., with ΔΠ., has ἐνεργ. —the more familiar word. The word expresses the way in which the parts come out in relief (ὥστε ζωοὶ βροτοί) as the last touches are added to a painting. Aristotle uses the same combination of metaphors to describe the necessary imper- 80 ITAATOQNOZ φέναι πω. γραφῆς δὲ καὶ συμπάσης χειρουργίας Ρ. 27)" / Ν / 5 ΄- ue ΄- / λέξει καὶ λόγῳ δηλοῦν πᾶν ζῶον μᾶλλον πρέπει va δ a x J \ τοῖς δυναμένοις ἕπεσθαι: τοῖς δ᾽ ἄλλοις διὰ χειρουρ- γιῶν. 5s NE. SQ. Τοῦτο μὲν φὴς ἱκανῶς εἰρῆσθαι, δήλωσον. 5 θῶ » “ δὲ Ci 2 5, ορθως omy O€ ἡμιν οὕπω No great thing can be made clear with- p ᾿ nae ᾿ a ᾿ ΕΥ̓ Ψ out exam- VEVEL yap μων EKAOTOS OLOY ονὰρ εἰδὼς ATTAVTA ples. Even p95 8 ; Ψ τ é a the nature 107 QVYT αὐ παλιν WOTEP ὕπαρ αγνοειν. ΞῈ. Χαλεπόν, ὦ δαιμόνιε, μὴ παραδείγμασι χρώ- ἃ “ 3 / / “ / μενον ἱκανῶς ἐνδείκνυσθαί τι τῶν μειζόνων. κινδὺυ- fection of an Ethical discourse : ἀμυδρῶς καὶ τύπῳ τἀληθὲς ἐνδεί- κνυσθαι ---τὰ καλῶς ἔχοντα τῇ περιγραφῇ. For what follows, οἵ. Gorg. 450 Ὁ: τῶν μὲν ἄλλων τεχνῶν διὰ χειρουργίας ἐστὶν ἡ ἐπιστήμη. 2. λέξει καὶ λόγῳ] λέξις 15 introduced because λόγος does not sufficiently express a pro- 6688. πᾶν ζῶον] And _ therefore human society, which is a liy- ing organism. 3. τοῖς δυναμένοις] Governed by δηλοῦν. τοῖς δ᾽ ἄλλοις διὰ χειρουρ- γιῶν] “To the other sort the creatures may be shewn through works of art.” This is a good illustration of Plato’s manner of displaying both sides, even when a subject is mentioned by the way, and when one side only is required for his pur- pose. Cf. Rep. 7, 520 6, Legg. 1,632 d: τοῖς δ᾽ ἄλλοις ἡμῖν οὐδαμῶς ἐστι καταφανῆ. 7. Xaderov—rti τῶν μειζόνων] This remark is preparatory to the example of the art of weay- ing; which, however, is not introduced till p. 279, a di- gression on the nature of Ex- ample being put between. The thought is one of frequent occurrence. Phedr. 262 ¢: ὡς νῦν ye Ψιλῶς πως λέγομεν, οὐχ ἔχοντες ἱκανὰ παραδείγματα. Soph. 219 ὍΞΕ: λων δεῖ διαπονεῖσθαι ---- πρότερον βού- λει δῆτα περὶ τινὸς τῶν φαύλων μετιόντες πειραθῶμεν παράδειγμα αὐτὸ θέσθαι τοῦ μείζονος : In the Laws the use of Example is recognized as a necessary preliminary to discourse. 1,632 6: ὅπως δ᾽ ἂν τὸ πρῶτον διεξέλ- θωμεν, πειρασόμεθα αὐτὸ παρά- Sevypa θέμενοι καὶ τἄλλα οὕτω a > > “- ΄ ὅσα δ᾽ αὖ τῶν μεγά- 5 Ξ = = ἐν σμικροῖς---δεῖν μελετᾶν. διαμυθολογοῦντες παραμύθια ποιή- σασθαι τῆς ὁδοῦ. 9. οἷον ὄναρ εἰδὼς ἅπαντα] Compare Lys. 218 ¢: κινδυ- νεύομν ὄναρ πεπλουτηκέναι. Thezt. 208 b: ὄναρ δὴ---ἐπλου- τήσαμεν (“In sleep a king, in waking, no such matter”). A similar feeling appears in Phi- leb. 16 b: οὐ μὴν ἔστι καλλίων ὁδὸς οὐδ᾽ ἂν γένοιτο, ἣς ἐγὼ ἐρα- στὴς μέν εἰμι ἀεί, πολλάκις δέ με ἤδη διαφυγοῦσα ἔρημόν τε καὶ 277: e 78. IIOAITIKO2. 8] NE. >Q. Πῶς τοῦτ᾽ εἶπες ; μ- Ν Yh) ΦΧ ἢ YY , ᾽ A 7 mE. Kati par ἀτόπως ἐοικὰ ye ἐν τῷ παροντι a) 5 7 > € a κινήσας TO περὶ τῆς ἐπιστήμης πάθος ἐν ἡμῖν. NE. 50. Τί δή; 5 ΄ 5 \ BE. Παραδείγματος, ὦ μακάριε, αὖ μοι καὶ TO παράδειγμα αὐτὸ δεδέηκεν. NE. ΣΏ. Τί οὖν ; λέγε μηδὲν ἐμοῦ γε ἕνεκα ἀποκνῶν. , δ / oa 3 - HE. Λεκτέον, ἐπειδὴ καὶ σὺ γε ἕτοιμος ἀκολουθεῖν. N » vad 7 oS yy 4 τους γὰρ ποὺυ παῖδας ἰσμεν, ὁταν ἄρτι γραμμάτων 3 / EMTELPOL γίγνωνται---- NE. 2Q. To ποῖον ; BE. Ὅτι τῶν στοιχείων ἕκαστον ἐν ταῖς βραχυ- ᾽ὔ φ ff a lal ta Lal ᾽ὔ τάταις καὶ ῥάσταις τῶν συλλαβῶν ἱκανῶς διαισθά- νονται, καὶ τἀληθῆ φράζειν περὶ ἐκεῖνα δυνατοὶ γίγνονται. NE. 30. Πῶς γὰρ οὔ: ἄπορον κατέστησεν : with which compare Legg. 2, 6546: εἰ δὲ ταῦθ᾽ ἡμᾶς διαφυγόντα οἰχήσεται. Pheedo 89 Ὁ, : ἐάν περ γε ἡμῖν 6 λόγος τελευτήσῃ καὶ μὴ δυνώμεθα αὐτὸν ἀναβιώσασθαι. 3. τὸ περὶ τῆς ἐπιστήμης πά- Gos] Cf. τὸ τῆς δόξης πάθος, Theet. 193 d. “After a strange fashion, it would seem, I have now touched upon the expe- rience of our minds in regard to knowledge.” For the par- ticiple with ἔοικα, cf. Xen. Hell. Vi 3, ro (Passow, Lex. 5: v. ἔοικα), and for κινήσας, cf. infr. 297 ©: κινήσας τις τοῦτον τὸν λόγον. Theeet. 163 a: τὰ πολλὰ καὶ ἄτοπα ταῦτα ἐκινήσαμεν. 5. Παραδείγματος] The illus- * tration to be drawn presently from boys learning their let- ters is an example of what is meant by Example. μηδὲν ---- ἀποκνῶν] I. 6. Don't be afraid of seeming tedious to me. 9. σύ ye] So also the Bodl. MS., where the omission of ye, noted by Gaisford, is after ἐμοῦ in the previous line, perhaps caused by λέγε preceding. 13. ἐν ταῖς βραχυτάταις καὶ ῥάσταις τῶν συλλαβῶν] See the same illustration more fully drawn out in Rep. 3, 402 ce, where however the notion of syllables is not distinctly present ; Thezt. 206 a, 207, 208 ; Phileb. 17. M wn of example, it would seem, is no exception to this rule, We know, then, that to children learn to read by being re- ferred from syllables which they cannot spell to others havy- 15 ing the same let- ters, which they al- ready know. 82 EE. Ταὐτὰ δέ γε ταῦτα ἐν ἄλλαις ἀμφιγνοοῦντες Pp. 27]; ΠΛΑΤΏΝΟΣ πάλιν δόξη τε ψεύδονται καὶ λόγῳ. NE. 2Q. Πάνυ μὲν οὖν. μαι 3 3 Δ en 0, 5 ἢ ΞΕ. ‘Ap οὖν οὐχ ὧδε ῥᾷστον καὶ κάλλιστον ἐπά- > \ \ / / 5 yew QUTOUS ἐπι TA PNT γιγνώσκομενα 3 NES Os Moss —E "A , a » 98 5 a > - > Ν joy Ls. VAYELW πρῶτον €7 €EKELVA EV OLS Ταῦτα ταῦτα ὀρθῶς ἐδόξαζον, ἀναγαγόντας δὲ τιθέναι παρὰ \ , / Ν ΄ » τὰ μήπω γιγνωσκόμενα, καὶ παραβαάλλοντας ἐνδεικ- ’ὔ Ν 5 ἂν € / \ / > » / 1O YUVAL THY αὐτὴν ὁμοιότητα καὶ φύσιν ἐν ἀμφοτέραις 3 An a , Ay na a οὖσαν ταῖς συμπλοκαῖς, μέχριπερ ἂν πᾶσι τοῖς ἀγνο- ουμένοις τὰ δοξαζόμενα ἀληθῶς παρατιθέμενα δειχθῇ, δειχθέντα δέ, παραδείγμαθ᾽ οὕτω γιγνόμενα, ποιήσῃ lal / / ͵ » , lol TOV στοιχειῶν TAVT@V ἕκαστον εν πασαις TALS συλ- oa ἊΝ \ o ε a 2) “ yy XN 15AaPais, TO μὲν ἐτερον ws τῶν ἄλλων ETEPOY OV, TO \ Sea ε XN SPAN XN » Ν e “ δὲ TQUTOV ὡς ταὐτὸν αει KATA ταῦτα εαὐτῷ σροσα- γορεύεσθαι. NE. ΣΩ. Παντάπασι μὲν οὖν. I. Ταὐτὰ δέ γε ταῦτα] CT. Theset. 207 6 : ὅταν---Θεαίτητον γράφων τις θῆτα καὶ εἶ--γράψῃ, καὶ αὖ Θεόδωρον ἐπιχειρῶν γρά- φειν ταῦ καὶ εἶ--- ράψη. 2. δόξῃ τε ψεύδονται καὶ λόγῳ] The possibility of which two- fold phenomenon has been proved with some difficulty this morning. Soph. 262-264. 4. ῥᾷστον καὶ κάλλιστον] Se. ἐστίν. 8. τιθέναι] Se. τὰ ἐν οἷς ὀρ- θῶς ἐδόξαζον. \ DEN ς , ‘ IO. τὴν αὑτὴν opotoTnTa Kal giow] “The same kindred form and nature.” ὁἍὁμοιότης here = ὁμοῖον εἶδος. Cf. Pheedo "ἢ a: ἐνθάδε---τὴν αὑτοῖς ὁμοι- ὄτητα τῆς διαγωγῆς ἀεὶ ἕξουσιν. τὴν αὐτὴν ὁμοιότητα -- ὁμοῖον τῆς αὐτῆς ἰδέας πάθος. ἐν ἀμφοτέραις ταῖς συμπλο- xais]| The same letter in two different combinations or syl- lables (i.e. the same idea or law in two widely different things). Cf. Soph. 253, 261. 11. μέχριπερ---δειχθῇ] “ Until the things of which they think truly (supr. ἐν ois ταὐτὰ ταῦτα ὀρθῶς ἐδόξαζον) have been shewn in comparison with all the things which they do not know.” There is a slight al- lusion to the etymology of παρά-δειγμα. 15. τὸ μὲν ἕτερον---προσαγο- ρεύεσθαι)])͵ Cf. Rep. 3, 402 6; Theet. 207 ; Soph. 259 d. ΠΟΛΙΤΊΚΟΣ. 83 jn > o qn .Y e ΄ / A ΜΞ, Οὐκοῦν τοῦτο μὲν ἱκανῶς συνειληφαμεν, ort / , / / e , Ἃ > παραδείγματός γ᾽ ἐστὶ τότε γένεσις, ὁπόταν ὃν ταὐ- ὩΣ > Cas. / / bd a Ν τὸν, ἐν ἑτέρῳ διεσπασμένῳ δοξαζόμενον ὀρθῶς καὶ συναχθὲν, περὶ ἑκάτερον ὡς συνάμφω μίαν ἀληθῆ δόξαν ἀποτελῇ ; NE. ΣΏΩ. Φαίνεται. μα ΄ Ἂ > ’ Saw a Corn « BE. Θαυμαζοιμεν ἂν οὖν εἰ ταὐτὸν τοῦτο ἡμῶν ἡ 2. ὁπόταν--- ἀποτελῇ} ‘ When that which is the same in another separate thing, and which is rightly conceived, is brought into comparison, and so effects one true opinion about each of the two things which are thus regarded in one view.” 3. διεσπασμένῳ] Cf. Soph. 253 d: μίαν ἰδέαν διὰ πολλῶν, ἑνὸς ἑκάστου κειμένου γωρίς, πάντῃ διατεταμένην. 4. συναχθὲν)] / Ass re “ yy / ToTe μὲν ὑπ ἀληθείας περὶ ἐν EKaTTOV ἐν τισι συνι- \ \ Ν “ ᾽ one 53 / σταται, TOTE δὲ περὶ ἅπαντα ἐν ἑτέροις αὖ φέρεται, \ \ \ 9 νοὶ a 7 A , > - και TH μὲν αὐτῶν ἀμῃ γε ΤῊ TOV συγκράσεων ορθῶς ΄ς ΄ > > val ¥ 5 δοξάζει, μετατιθέμενα δ᾽ εἰς τὰς τῶν πραγμάτων \\ \ ΄ \ / μακρὰς καὶ μὴ padlovs συλλαβὰς ταὐτὰ ταῦτα πάλιν ἀγνοεῖ ; NE. 3Q. Καὶ θαυμαστὸν γε οὐδέν. EE. Πῶς fyapt, ὦ φίλε, δύναιτ᾽ ἄν τις ἀρχό- > \ - > a > ™ iopevos ἀπὸ δόξης ψευδοῦς, ἐπί τι τῆς ἀληθείας καὶ μικρὸν μέρος ἀφικόμενος κτήσασθαι φρόνησιν ; NE. ΣΩ. Σχεδὸν οὐδαμῶς. ΞΕ. Οὐκοῦν ταῦτα εἰ ταύτῃ πέφυκεν, οὐδὲν δὴ La) ἊΝ 7, Ἂ ΄σ \ πλημμελοῖμεν ἂν ἐγώ TE καὶ σὺ πρῶτον μὲν ἐπιχει- 7ὔ “ 7 EK Wated \ , > rspyoavTes ὅλου παραδείγματος ἰδεῖν τὴν φύσιν ἐν “ \ / XAA ὃ / Bs δὲ σμικρῷ κατα μέρος a @ Tapa εἰγμᾶτι, μετα [s sist and are compounded of them. In the same manner, to inquire the form of a lion, of an oak, of gold—nay, of water, of air—is a vain pur- suit ; but to inquire the forms of sense, of voluntary motion, of vegetation, of colours, of gravity and levity, of density, of tenuity, of heat, of cold, and all other natures and qualities, which like an alphabet are not many, and of which the es- sences upheld by matter of all creatures do consist,—to in- quire, I say, the true forms of these, is that part of meta- physique which I now define On I. τὰ τῶν πάντων στοιχεῖα] “ The alphabet of things,” 1. 6. the ideas. Cf. Thezt. 201 sqq. 2. τό τε pev—epera] Cf. Phileb. 15: τότε μὲν ἐπὶ θάτερα κυκλῶν καὶ συμφύρων εἰς ἕν, τότε δὲ πάλιν ἀνελίττων καὶ διαμε- ρίζων. 9. Πῶς tyapt] Stallbaum is probably right in conj. πῶς ap —. 15. ὅλου] The “whole” is often put by Plato for the universal, to which κατὰ μέρος is here opposed as the par- ticular. Cf. Rep. 6, 491 ¢: AaBod τοίνυν, ἦν δ᾽ ἐγώ; ὅλου Thest. 178 a: παντὸς τις τοῦ εἴδους Ib. 182 b: κατὰ αὐτοῦ ὀρθῶς. εἰ περὶ ἐρωτῴη K.T.A. μέρη οὖν ἄκουε. τό. ἄλλῳ] Other, as the par- ticular is other than the ge- neral. ; peta δὲ ταῦτα μέλλοντες ---Ἶ “ Intending, however, after- wards to bring the same na- d 278. 270. ΠΟΛΙΤΙΚΟΣ. 85 a / > A Ν a 7 / *» ταῦτα μέλλοντες, ἐπὶ TO τοῦ βασιλέως μέγιστον ὃν SIN 5 ἢ / / / \ ταὐτὸν «dos am ἐλαττόνων φέροντές ποθεν, διὰ / > a 5 \ “- \ / παραδείγματος ἐπιχειρεῖν αὖ τὴν τῶν κατὰ πόλιν / / to o Oy / θεραπείαν τέχνῃ γνωρίζειν, ἵνα ὕπαρ ἀντ᾽ ὀνείρατος Ca / ἡμῖν γίγνηται; ΄ ᾿ 5 A NE. 2Q. avy μὲν οὖν opdas. μααὶ i“ \ Ν " , ,ὔ BE. Ἰ]άλιν δὴ τὸν ἔμπροσθεν λόγον ἀναληπτέον, ¢ 3 δὴ “ B λ lat / ia) Ν \ 5A ὡς ἐπειδὴ τῷ βασιλικῷ γένει τῆς περὶ Tas πόλεις 3 / > a a 7 > ἐπιμελείας ἀμφισβητοῦσι μυρίοι, δεῖ δὴ πάντας ἀπο- ,ὔ , / a κ᾿ \ \ χωρίζειν τούτους καὶ μόνον ἐκεῖνον λιπεῖν. Kal πρὸς το a XN 7 yf a N οὐ μὰ τοῦτο δὴ παραδείγματος ἔφαμεν δεῖν τινὸς ἡμίν. 7 NE, 2Q. Kai μάλα. “ ΄ 3, 32) \ 5 ‘ BE. Τί δῆτα παράδειγμά τις av, ἔχον THY αὐτὴν πὸ , / Ἐπολιτικῇ ὃ πραγματείαν, σμικρότατον παραθέμενος ε la Ἃ “ S / / \ / ἱκανῶς av εὕροι TO ζητούμενον ; βούλει πρὸς Διός, 53 Ἅ » / ΄ “ y ᾽ > ὦ Σώκρατες, εἰ μὴ TL πρόχειρον ἕτερον ἔχομεν, ἀλλ 3 7 \ ’ὔ, 5 οὖν τὴν γε ὑφαντικὴν προελώμεθα ; καὶ ταύτην, εἰ a \ a i \ \ δοκεῖ, μὴ πᾶσαν 3 ἀποχρήσει yap ἴσως ἡ περὶ τὰ EK A , « ΄' ΄ \ Ἂ Coa a N TOV ἐρίων VpaTpaTa τάχα yap ἂν ἡμῖν καὶ τοῦτο TO “ See / \ ἃ / μέρος αὐτῆς μαρτυρήσειε προαιρεθὲν 0 βουλομεθα. NE. 2Q. Τί γὰρ ov; ture from some lesser subject to bear on the most important nature of the king, and to endeavour—.” The construc- tion is determined by a sort of attraction from the previous participle. I, μέγιστον ὃν ταὐτὸν εἶδος] Cf. Rep. 4, 435 a: 6 γε ταὐτὸν ἄν τις προσέιποι μεῖζόν τε καὶ ἔλαττον. 3. τῶν κατὰ πόλιν] Mase. 4. ὕπαρ ἀντ᾽ ὀνείρατος] Cf. supr. 277 d. \ a , > 7. τὸν ἔμπροσθεν λόγον ava- ληπτέον] P. 268d: ἕως ἂν τοὺς τῆς ἀντιποιουμένους περικεχυμένους καὶ συννομῆς περιελόντες καὶ χωρίσαντες ἀπ᾽ καθαρὸν μόνον ἐκεῖνον ἀποφήνωμεν. Also 275-277. TO. ἐκεῖνον] τὸν βασιλέα im- plied in τῷ βασιλικῷ γένει. 14. ἔπολιτικ ] MSS. πολιτι- κήν. The correction occurred also to Ast and Stallbaum. 20. μαρτυρήσειε προαιρεθὲν | The participle, as ἴῃ πρέψει ῥηθὲν, supr. 269 6, and the like. αὐτῷ αὐτῷ > , EKELV@V illustrate for us this point of method, and pre- pare the way for a more en- lightened view of the States- man’s office. Reverting then to what has been pre- viously said, that we must try to clear away from the King the crowd of rival artists, we select as an example the art of weaving woollen cloth. Aswe have already done in the case of statecraft, let us di- vide the arts and sciences until we come in sight of what we seek. We do this briefly, so as to bring the . I question to the same point at which we have left the parallel inquiry. Of produc- tions and ~ / 7 A \ possessions, 15 σόλεμον ὁπλίσματα, τὰ δε some are for action, some for protection. 86 ΠΛΑΤΩ͂ΝΟΣ EE. Τί δῆτα οὐ, καθάπερ ἐν τοῖς ἔμπροσθεν τέ- p. 296)" ΄- “ / lal μνοντες μέρη μερῶν ἕκαστον διηρούμεθα, καὶ νῦν ε 4“ ὦ al > td \ περὶ ὑφαντικὴν ταὐτὸν τοῦτο ἐδράσαμεν, καὶ κατὰ σ \ / Ν / δύναμιν ὅ TL μάλιστα διὰ βραχέων ταχὺ πᾶντ᾽ ἐπελ- μ μ / , ” 5s Ν a / 5θοντες πάλιν ἤλθομεν ἐπὶ TO νῦν χρήσιμον ; “ / NE, 20. [as λέγεις ; > ‘ / / / ΞΕ. Αὐτὴν τὴν διέξοδον ἀπόκρισίν σοι ποιή- σομαι. NE. ΣΩ. Καλλιστ᾽ εἶπες. μααὶ 3 / id CoS € / a ο ἐπ, “Kore τοίνυν πάντα ἡμῖν ὅποσα δημιουργοῦ- Ν / Ν \ (4 “ 5 Ἂν \ μεν Kal κτώμεθα, TA μὲν ἕνεκα τοῦ ποιεῖν τι, τὰ δὲ a Ν 7, / Ν la / ‘\ τοῦ μὴ πάσχειν ἀμυντὴηρια᾽ καὶ TOV ἀμυντηρίων τὰ \ > ΄ Ν las ΄ \ \ μὲν ἀλεξιφάρμακα καὶ θεῖα καὶ ἀνθρώπινα, τὰ δὲ , lal \ 7 \ \ Ν \ ἢ προβλήματα τῶν δὲ προβλημάτων τὰ μέν πρὸς τὸν , na φράγματα: Kal τῶν / A \\ ΄ὔ A \ XN φραγμάτων Ta μὲν παραπετάσματα, τὰ δὲ πρὸς I. Τί οὐ -- ἐδράσαμεν | Οἵ, Soph. 251 6. Phileb. 54 ὁ. . κατὰ δύναμιν----διὰ βραχέων] talismans or of drugs. 14. τῶν d€—ovvoera] “ De- fences from the weather are This is fulfilled in the follow- ing sentence, in which the method of dichotomies is ex- emplified as it were in short hand. Perhaps also there is here a sly anticipation of the length to which the illus- tration is allowed to run, which is made the occasion of comment afterwards. 7. Αὐτὴν --- ποιήσομαι] Cf. Soph. 250 a: πειράσομαι δρᾷν τοῦτο ἐρωτῶν σε καθάπερ ἐκείνους τότε, ἵνα ἅμα τι καὶ προΐωμεν. 10. δημιουργοῦμεν καὶ κτώμεθα] ποιητική and κτητική (Soph. 219) are thus combined. 13. ἀλεξιφάρμακα καὶ θεῖα καὶ ἀνθρώπινα] Preventives divine and human—in the form of housing and body-shelter: of the latter sort are mats and envelopments ; which are of one piece or of several. Those of several pieces are stitched or otherwise compacted, of vegetable fibre or of hair or wool: and of these some are felted together with the help of water and earth, while some are compacted of themselves.” τό. παραπετάσματα] “ Cur- tains—to shut out the view.” Hesych. : παραπετάσματα, παρα- Cf. Prot. 316 e: ταῖς τέχναις ταύταις παραπετά- σμασιν ἐχρήσαντο. The word is used also by Herodotus of the Persian hangings found in the tent of Mardonius at Plateea. καλύμματα. 9: 280 MOAITIKO®X. 87 Χεη ῶναν καὶ κατ ἀλεξητήρια: τῶν δὲ ἀλεξητη- ρίων τὰ μὲν στεγανμαπα; τὰ δὲ σκεπάσματα᾽ καὶ τῶν σκεπασμάτων ὑποπετάσματα μὲν ἄλλα, περι- ἊΝ \ “ / \ \ \ καλύμματα δὲ ἕτερα᾽ περικαλυμμάτων δὲ τὰ μὲν ε / ,ὔ We i a Ν / \ ὁλοσχιστα, σύνθετα δὲ ἕτερα" τῶν δὲ συνθέτων TA \ ’ \ > 7 ΄ ΄ a μέν τρητὰ, τὰ δὲ ἄνευ τρήσεως TVVOETA καὶ TOV 3 / \ \ / “ > a \ \ / ἀτρητων τὰ μέν νεύρινα φυτῶν EK γῆς; τὰ δε τρίχινα" fal \ / \ \ “ Ν “ , \ \ τῶν δὲ τριχίνων τὰ μὲν ὕδασι καὶ γῇ κολλητά, τὰ δὲ Daa - / \ - > a « a αὐτὰ αὑτοῖς συνδετά. τουτοισὶ δὴ τοῖς EK τῶν εαυτοῖς / > , \ ΄, συνδουμένων ἐργασθεῖσιν ἀμυντηρίοις καὶ σκεπάσ - NS \ 4 « ’ / \ \ - μασι TO μὲν ὄνομα ἱμάτια ἐκαλέσαμεν" τὴν δὲ τῶν / / > / / “ / ἱματίων μάλιστα ἐπιμελουμένην τέχνην, ὥσπερ τότε ‘SS a / \ By, 4 Ν - 7 τὴν τῆς πόλεως πολιτικὴν εἴπομεν, οὕτω καὶ νῦν ταύ- / a a 7 ec τὴν προσείπωμεν ἀπ᾽ αὐτοῦ τοῦ πράγματος ἱματι- / ουργικὴν᾽ «- , 5 / 7 53 / \\ / ἱματίων ἐργασίᾳ μέγιστον ἣν μόριον, μηδὲν διαφέρειν “ δὲ Se i σ SN a a φῶμεν δὲ Kat ὑφαντικην, ὅσον ἐπὶ TH τῶν 7. The genitive φυτῶν de- pends on ἐστὶ, which is to be supplied, but at the same time defines more particularly the idea of νεύρινον, “of fibres, from plants.” 9. τούτοισι] Several MSS. have τουτοισί: but this is a case where the dwrior lectio is preferable. to. ἀμυντηρίοις | Cf. Lege, 11,920 6: οἱ τὰ τῶν δημιουργῶν Oe Cie τέχναισιν ἑτέραις ἀμυν- τηρίοις ἔργα. 15. ὅσον] This can hardly mean “Inasmuch as.” In Rep. 1, 328 d, which Ast com- pares (Lex. s. v.), ὅσον is distinctly an accusative of measure, and is answered by τοσοῦτον, which could not be introduced here without de- stroying the sense. And if so - the making of clothes.” rendered, the words must be understood to anticipate what is brought out afterwards, that weaving is only a part of the making of clothes. This should be kept in the back- ground here. The word al- ludes to what is said above and explained immediately be- low, that only a part of the art of weaving is concerned with making woollen gar- ments. 279 b: καὶ ταύτην, εἰ δοκεῖ, μὴ πᾶσαν κιτιλ. This is confirmed by ἦν. “Δὐ least that very large portion of this art which we saw to be for ὅσον therefore limits the subject οἵ διαφέρειν. ἐπὶ] As in Gorg. 463 6: τέτταρα ταῦτα μύρια ἐπὶ τέτταρσιν πράγμασιν, 8110. σι σι Protections are prophy- lacties and defences. Defences are armour and bar- riers. Bar- riers are screens and weather- stops. Wea- ther-stops are shelter and clothes. Clothes are rugs and integu- ments. In- teguments are of one piece or composite, The compo- site are stitched or otherwise combined. Those un- stitched are of vegetable fibre or of hair. Those of hair are compacted with earth and water, or com- bined of their own substance without such help. These last are called clothing : and the art which tends on these may be called cloth- making : which dif- fers from the weay- ing of wool, as the King ;5 and the Statesman δῶ πλὴν ὀνόματι ταύτης τῆς ἱματιουργικῆς, καθάπερ p. “8 ΠΛΑΤΏΝΟΣ > o / \ \ ~ “ κακεῖ TOTE τὴν βασιλικὴν τῆς πολιτικῆς. NE. 2Q. ᾿Ορθότατα γε. cal “ \ EE. To pera τοῦτο δὴ συλλογισώμεθα, ὅτι τὴν cd / « \ “ ε ΄- ΄ ΚΑ ἊΝ © 4 5uatiov ὑφαντικὴν οὕτω ῥηθεῖσαν Tis TAX ἂν ἱκανῶς εἰρῆσθαι δόξειε, μὴ δυνάμενος Evvvoeiv ὅτι τῶν μὲν > ΝΝ a 357) / ΄σ \ εν ἐγγὺς ξυνεργῶν οὔπω διώρισται, πολλῶν δὲ ἑτέρων ξυγγενῶν ἀπεμερίσθη. NE. 2Q. Ποίων, εἰπέ, ξυγγενῶν ; EE. Οὐχ ἕσπου τοῖς λεχθεῖσιν, ὡς φαίνει" πάλιν 3 ξ yy 3 / 3 Uj 5 Χ “ > OUV +7 €ouKev ETTAVLTEOV APKOMEVOVY ἀπὸ τελευτῆς. ει \ lal \ b / \ \ / > yap ξυννοεῖς THY οἰκειότητα, THY μὲν διετέμομεν ἀπ a A ΄ \ cr / , αὐτῆς νῦν On, THY τῶν στρωμάτων σύνθεσιν, περι- βολῇ χωρίζοντες καὶ ὑποβολῇ. NE. >Q. Μανθαάνω. μι Ν \ \ » a / ιν / Ν EH. Kat μὴν τὴν ἐκ τῶν λίνων καὶ σπάρτων καὶ 2. κἀκεῖ τότε] 250 b,c. See also 274 6. 4. συλλογισώμεθα] “ Let us reflect.” “Let us think, put- ting together what has been said.” Or, perhaps, “Com- paring this argument with the preceding.” As the definition of the king seemed to be com- plete, at the end of the first series of divisions, so might the definition of the weaver at this point. Yet neither has been distinguished from his ereatest rivals. 10. πάλιν οὖν ΤΊ ἔοικεν ἐπανι- τέον] Hither ὡς ἔοικεν or ἔπανι- τέον εἶναι Seems to be required. II. ἀρχόμενον ἀπὸ τελευτῆς] “ Beginning from the end.” As in resuming the “ gene- alogy” of the Sophist, 226 a, ib. 268. This order is not strictly followed, however, un- less the “end” includes all from καὶ σκεπασμάτων downwards. εἰ ξυννοεῖς τὴν οἰκειότητα] Young Socrates’ question, Ποίων — ξυγγενῶν : shewed that he had not observed the likeness or kindred, e. g. between ἐσθὴς and στρώματα. 12. τὴν μὲν διετέμομεν] μὲν 15 answered by καὶ μὴν. τὴν μὲν -- ὑποβολῇ] “ We just now cut off from the weaving of garments that of bed clothes, distinguishing them by the one being put under us and the other round. 13. περιβολῇ καὶ ὑποβολῇ] Supr. ὑποπετάσματα μὲν ἄλλα, περικα- λύμματα δὲ ἕτερα. τῶν Cc HMOAITIKOS. δὺ / « ὦ a "7 σ΄ \ 7 7 80. πάντων, oTOTAa φυτῶν apTL νεῦρα κατὰ λογον εἴπο- / a ’ / / ᾽ κε μεν, δημιουργίαν πᾶσαν ἀφείλομεν᾽ τήν T αὖ πιλη- Χ ΄ὔ Ν lol ε lal τικὴν ἀφωρισάμεθα Kal THY TH τρήσει καὶ ῥαφῇ χρωμένην σύνθεσιν, ἧς ἡ πλείστη σκυτοτομική. NE. ΣΏ. Πανυ μὲν οὖν. = Ν / Χ lal « / / SE. Kat τοίνυν τὴν τῶν ὁλοσχίστων σκεπασμα- / 4 \ a Tov θεραπείαν, δερματουργικὴν, Kal τὰς τῶν στεγασ - ’ “ 5 5) fa) SS GY “ Ν μάτων, ὅσαι TE ἐν οἰκοδομικῇ καὶ ὅλῃ τεκτονικῇ καὶ » ΕΣ / e / ἐν ἄλλαις τέχναις ῥευμάτων στεκτικαὶ γίγνονται, » / “ Ν \ \ Ν συμπάσας ἀφείλομεν, ὅσαι τε περὶ Tas κλοπᾶς καὶ \ Bi LE ὃ λ δ ΠᾺΡ / / Tas La T pa ELS OLAKDAUTLKA epya παρέχονται τέχναι ΄ὔ ΄ > φραγμάτων, περί τε γένεσιν ἐπιθηματουργίας οὖσαι Ν “ lad > Kal Tas τῶν θυρωμάτων πήξεις, γομφωτικῆς ἀπονεμ- 1. φυτῶν νεῦρα---εἴπομεν] Viz. in saying νεύρινα φυτῶν supr. κατὰ λόγον] Following ana- logy. 8. ὅσαι te—vylyvovra] I.e. ὅσαι τε ἐν OLKOO. kK. OA. TEKTOV. στε- κτικαὶ (OY στεγαστικαὶ) γίγνονται, καὶ ὅσαι ἐν ἄλλαις τεχν. ῥευμάτων στεκτ. γιγν. 9. ῥευμάτων στεκτικαὶ] “ Hous- ing” is not an adequate trans- lation of στεγαστική, as this includes the damming of rivers and the lke: “the art of making wind-and-water-tight.”’ Many of the words in this passage are quoted, with others from the Politicus, by Pollux, Onomasticon 7, 208-10, who adds : etre σπουδάζων ἔχρητο τοῖς ὀνόμασιν, εἴτε καὶ μή---λέγω δὲ, διὰ τὸ ἐν ἐνίοις τῶν ὀνομάτων βιαι- ότερον χρῆσθαι. 10. ὅσαι τε-- τέχνης] “And all the arts which produce pre- ventive barriers, as against theft and violence, such as are the process of lid-makingand the eS fixing of doors, being separate portions of the art of joining.” The order is ὅσαι τέχναι παρέ- χονται---διακωλυτικὰ ἔργα φραγμά- The genitive of apposi- tion again recals the language of tragedy. This class was not strictly included in the παραπε- τάσματα of the previous enume- ration, 13. γομφωτικῆς ἀπονεμηθεῖσθαι μόρια τέχνης] Hither “set apart as portions of the joiner’s art,” or “haying had assigned to them several portions of the joiner’s art.” For the latter, ef. infr. 281 ¢: μεγάλα δὲ (μέρη) καὶ σφίσιν αὐταῖς ἀπονέμουσαι. The use of the passive would then be analogous to πιστεύ- ομαί τι, “1 am entrusted with something”—a trace of which occurs as early as Plat. Ep. I. 309 a: διοικῶν τὴν ὑμετέραν ap- των. χήν πεπιστεύμενος πάντων μά- λιστα. Other instances in which a noun which would have followed the active verb N σι differed, in name only. But though the defini- tion is spe- cious, we see on re- flection that the art has still to be dis- tinguished from those most akin to it. Se- veral kin- dred arts have in- deed been parted off, such as the making of bedclothes, of skins, of linen cloth, and rush- matting, of felt, of shoes, of houses and dams, of lids and doors, of 90 a « \ ? / ηθεῖσαι μόρια τέχνης" τήν τε ὁπλοποιικὴν ἀπετεμο- P. 21} ΠΛΑΤΏΝΟΣ μεθα, μεγάλης καὶ παντοίας τῆς προβληματουργικῆς a 5 / Ξ Ν Ν \ Ν ‘ τμῆμα οὖσαν δυνάμεως" καὶ On καὶ THY μαγευτικὴν 5 = / > > \ > ἈΝ τὴν περὶ τὰ ἀλεξιφάρμακα κατ᾽ ἀρχὰς εὐθὺς διω- , / Ν 7, ε ὃ / ya armour, all δρισάμεθα ξύμπασαν, και λελοίπαμεν, ως ὀξαιμεν αν». of which are in- cluded in the cate- gory of defences. The art of magical charms was early re- jected, so that one only art, that of de- fying wea- ther by the production ofa woollen Ν Ν ς lal \ / > ΄σ αὐτὴν τὴν ζητηθεῖσαν ἀμυντικὴν χειμώνων, ἐρεοῦ προ- βλήματος ἐργαστικήν, ὄνομα δὲ ὑφαντικὴν λεχθεῖσαν. NE, ΣΏ. Ἔοικε γὰρ οὖν. > > 3, ΄ 53 5 a HE. ᾿Αλλ᾽ οὐκ ἔστι πω τέλεον, ὦ παῖ, τοῦτο λε- « > > “- “ ~ ς 7 » / ολεγμένον. O γὰρ εν ἀρχῇ της τῶν LUaTLOV εργασιᾶς ΄ / > / « a ΄σ / ἁπτόμενος τοὐναντίον ὑφῇ δρᾷν φαίνεται. NESS OM ilast EE. To μὲν τῆς ὑφῆς in the dative case is made the subject of the the passive verb, are Lege. 11, 925 6: τοὺς ἐπι- ταττυμένους. Lb.g26 a: τοῖς νομο- θετουμένοις (mase.). Ib. 937: ἐὰν ἐπισκήφθῃ. Rep.1,337 ἃ: ἐλεεῖ- σθαι----μᾶλλον---ἢ χαλεπαίνεσθαι. For a generalization similar to those in the present pas- sage, cf. Lege. 12, 944 ὁ : και- ροὶ---λύσεως---νέως ἢ ζώου τινος, ovs ἐντόνους τε καὶ ὑποζώματα καὶ νεύρων ἐπιτόνους μίαν οὖσαν φύ- σιν διεσπαρμένην, πολλαχοῦ πολ- λοῖς ὀνόμασι προσαγορεύουσιν. 3. payevtexny | The word μαγεία and the almost equally rare word ἀλεξιφάρμακον occur move: ΠΡ ΤΡ Ὁ ΠΣ ΡΣ There is a slight inaccuracy of reference in putting toge- ther the ὁλόσχιστα σκεπάσματα and the στεγάσματα, the former of which came after, while the latter preceded, the mention of στρωματὰ. 7. λεχθεῖσαν] The participle is added, as in tragic poetry, - πλοκή. ene? 5 , συμπλοκὴ τις ἐστι που. to round the sense. Cf. Soph. Trach. 1: ἀρχαῖος φανείς. 9. τέλεον λελεγμένον] CF. supr. 271 a: ἄδηλον διεφθείρετο. II. τοὐναντίον ὑφῇ If we compare Soph. 226 b, where the process of carding is made the symbol of the Elenchus (a figure which may have partly suggested this), it will not seem fanciful to suppose an allusion here to the logical process of διαίρεσις, which, as was shewn in the Sophist, is imperfect without the converse process of συναγωγή or συμ- The work of the Statesman also has these two elements, in common with every art that is based on knowledge. Cf. infr. 308 ο: πᾶσα ἐπιστήμη πανταχοῦ τὰ μὲν μοχθηρὰ εἰς δύναμιν ἀποβάλλει, τὰ δ᾽ ἐπιτήδεια καὶ χρηστὰ ἔλα- Bev, ἐκ τούτων δὲ καὶ ὁμοίων καὶ ἀνομοίων ὄντων, πάντ᾽ εἰς ἕν αὐτὰ ξυνάγουσα, μίαν τινὰ δύναμιν καὶ ἰδέαν δημιουργεῖ. MOAITIKOS. 91 por. NE. SQ. Nai. | BE. To δέ ye τῶν συνεστώτων καὶ συμπεπιλὴη- μένων διαλυτική. NE. ΣΏ. Τὸ ποῖον δή ; ΞΕ. To τῆς τοῦ Eaivovros τέχνης ἔργον. ἢ τὴν ξαντικὴν τολμήσομεν ὑφαντικὴν καὶ τὸν ξάντην ὡς ὄντα ὑφάντην καλεῖν ; NE. 20. Οὐδαμώς. EE. Kat μὴν τήν ye αὖ στήμονος ἐργαστικὴν καὶ κρόκης εἴ τις ὑφαντικὴν προσαγορεύει, παράδοξόν τε καὶ ψεῦδος ὄνομα λέγει. NE. ΣΏΩ. Hes γὰρ οὔ; ΞΕ. Τί δέ; κναφευτικὴν σύμπασαν καὶ τὴν ἀκεστικὴν πότερα μηδεμίαν ἐπιμέλειαν μηδέ τινα θεραπείαν ἐσθῆτος θῶμεν, ἢ καὶ ταύτας πάσας ὡς ὑφαντικὰς λέζομεν ; NE. SQ. Οὐδαμώς. EE. ᾿Αλλὰ μὴν τῆς ye θεραπείας ἀμφισβητή- Ὁ 7 Ν a 7, lo a σουσιν QAUTAL ξύμπασαι καὶ TNS γένέεσέεως TiS TOY ε 7ὔ lal ΄σ lal 7 , \ ἱματίων τῇ τῆς ὑφαντικῆς δυνάμει, μέγιστον μὲν 20 / » / ὃ ὃ a aN δὲ Ν / ᾽ la μέρος ἐκείνῃ διδοῦσαι, μεγάλα δὲ καὶ σφίσιν αὐταῖς / ἀπονέμουσαι. NE, ΣΏ. Πάνυ γε. ρικήν καλεῖς, ἡ ἂν ἢ περὶ λόγους ; 17. Οὐδαμῶς] Se. ὑφαντικάς. Only the latter half of the 2. Τὸ δέ γε---διαλυτική] Se. ἐν ἀρχῇ τῆς τῶν ἱμάτιων δρώμενόν ἐστι πρᾶξις τὸ δέ γε ἐργασίας διαλυτική. 13. κναφευτικήν͵] Cf. Gorg. 491 a: σκυτέας τε καὶ μαγείρους λέγων καὶ ἰατροὺς οὐδὲν παύει. Soph. 227 ἃ. 16. ὑφαντικάς 1 Cf. Gorg. 450 Ὁ: τί δή ποτε τὰς ἄλλας τέχνας οὐ ῥητορικὰς καλεῖς, οὔσας περὶ λόγους, εἴπερ ταυτην ῥητο- question is answered: hence Socrates calls attention to the former part, with ἀλλὰ piy— ὝξαστΑ 18. τῆς --- θεραπείας] For the construction without περί, ef. infr. 275 b, 279 a, Phileb. 22 C: τῶν νικητηρίων οὐκ ἀμ- φισβητῶ πω ὑπὲρ νοῦ. FN 2 5 defence (by name weav- ing), would seem to be left. The defini- tion, how- ever, is not yet com- plete. Other pro- cesses be- sides weav- ing are engaged in the making of cloth. 10 Forcarding or is not com- bination but. divi- sion. Nor are spin- ning and weaving to be con- founded. Once more, fulling and darning are processes concerned with cloth, from which weaving must be distin- guished. Here are several rival arts, whose land- marks must be placed with care, To which must be added those which forge the wea- ver’s tools, and which may be viewed as adminicu- lar. The definition of weaving in wool will not be com- Q2 ΠΛΑΤΏΝΟΣ ec > cad \ C « -“ δημιουργοὺς τέχνας, Oc ὧν ἀποτελεῖται τὰ τῆς ὑφῆς ΕΣ “ \ / / 32 f εργα, δοκεῖν ΧΡῊ TO γε συναιτίιας εἰναι προσποιή- Ν “2 ΄, σασθαι παντὸς ὑφάσματος. NE. ΣΏ. ᾿Ορθότατα. / 3 « ΄σ “ . “ , mE. Πότερον οὖν ἡμῖν ὁ περὶ τῆς ὑφαντικῆς λο- @ / 7] tg fol 3, γος, οὗ προειλόμεθα μέρους, ἱκανῶς ἔσται διωρισ- 9 > / aN μενος, ἐὰν \ ΄σ > va « / Ν ἂρ auTnv τῶν ἐεπιμελειῶν, ὁπόσαι περὶ \ > a 3 “ 9} X / Ν / τὴν ἐρεᾶν ἐσθῆτα, εἰς THY καλλίστην καὶ μεγίστην 2. δύ ὧν] Se. ἐργαλείων. 3. τό γε--- προσποιήσασθαι “ Lay claim to be at least co- operative causes :” cf. ἀμφισ- βητήσουσιν supr. 7. οὗ προειλόμεθα pepovs] An explanatory limitation. “ The art of weaving, that part of it which we selected :” supr. 279 Ὁ: τοῦτο τὸ μέρος αὐτῆς ---προαι- ρεθέν. The second noun limits the first, with which it is in apposition : as In such expres- sions as of ᾿Αθηναῖοι----οἱ στρατη- γοί in Thucydides. 8. ὁπόσαι --- τιθῶμεν) The reading of most MSS., εἰς τὴν καλλίστην, is sufficiently de- fended by Soph. 235 a (where see note); Tim. 57e: κώῴώησιν δὲ εἰς ἀνωμαλότητα ἀεὶ τιθῶμεν. Legg. 867 Ὁ : εἰς εἴκόνα που θῶμεν. For the omission of the substantive verb after ὁπόσος, which frequently hap- pens, cf. infr. 285 a: πάνθ᾽ ὁπόσα evtexva. The Zurich which is The Bodl., editors read εἰσί, found in Flor. 1. with A, has εἰς γῆν. 9. εἰς τὴν καλλίστην καὶ peyio- τὴν πασῶν | This recals the example by which the last hypothesis concerning know- ledge in the Theztetus is il- lustrated (p. 207 d): τὸ ἔχειν τι σημεῖον εἰπεῖν ᾧ TOY ἁπάντων διαφέρει τὸ ἐρωτώμενον---οἷον--- ἡλίου πέρι ἱκανὸν οἶμαί σοι εἶναι ἀποδέξασθαι ὅτι τὸ λαμπρότατόν ἐστι τῶν κατὰ τὸν οὐρανὸν ἰόντων περὶ γῆν. Since that definition was given, the argument of the “‘Sophist” has intervened. We now see that it is not enough to describe the sun as different in brightness from other hea- venly bodies. These other bodies, which are τού the sun, have a nature of their own, which is defined by and de- fines their difference from the sun. Ido not know the sun, or any other thing, therefore, until I have determined the exact limit between each of these other natures and the one in question. Comp. Legg. 6, 768 d: τὸ δὲ ὅλον καὶ ἀκριβὲς we qn \ a ᾽ὔ aA r 4 de> iu, Ovkovy μετὰ TaUTa ποιήτεον O Λέγομεν, ιν 5 ἐφεξῆς ἡμῖν ὁ λόγος ἴῃ ; NE. 3Q. Πῶς δ᾽ ov; « ΄σ a δ \ x ’ > 81. πασῶν τιθῶμεν ; ἢ λέγοιμεν μὲν av τι ἀληθές, οὐ =a Il la \ / δύ / yf \ wey Lue P@TOV μεν TOLYUY OVO τέχνας ουσὰς πέρι 4 Ἁ / / πάντα τὰ δρώμενα θεασώμεθα. NE. ΣΩ. Twas ; ἘΠῚ Τὴ \ a “ > / \ »- Le HV μὲν TS γενέσεως OVO QV ξυναίτιον, ΤΡ > SEEN yt δ᾽ αὐτὴν αἰτίαν. NE. 2Q. [las ; EE. Ὅσαι μὲν τὸ πρᾶγμα αὐτὸ μὴ δημιουργοῦσι, > \ , yf , ταῖς δὲ δημιουργούσαις ὄργανα παρασκευάζουσιν, 15 52 N Τὰ 5 a» / XN ὧν μὴ παραγενομένων οὐκ ἂν ποτε ἐργασθείη TO / «ς ΄ lo a 7 \ προστεταγμένον EKAOTY TOV τέχνων. Ταῦτας μὲν ,ὔ \ \ SN \ n ’ 7 ξυναιτίους, τὰς δὲ αὐτὸ τὸ πρᾶγμα ἀπεργαζομένας ot) QITLAS. NE. 3Q. "Ἔχει γοῦν λόγον. a XN \ \ 7, BE. Mera τοῦτο δὴ τὰς μὲν περί τε aTpaKTous Ν / Nae UN, 2 a a Ν \ καὶ κερκίδας καὶ ὁπόσα ἄλλα ὄργανα τῆς περὶ τὰ / , las 7 , ἀμφιέσματα γενέσεως κοινωνεῖ, πάσας ξυναιτίους 2. πρὶν αὖ So all the MSS. except SY. αὖ is suffi- ciently in point: and for the omission of ἂν (more common in tragedy), cf. Tim. 57 b: πρὶν---ἐκφυγῇς, where there is no good reason to suspect the text. 8. δύο --- τέχνα] The dis- tinction between cause and condition, which is the essen- tial point in this part of the argument, is also stated in Phedo 99 a, b; Phileb. 27 a; Tim. 46 Ὁ; d. 22. τῆς περὶ τὰ ἀμφιέσματα γενέσεως ]͵ Cf. Soph. 251 6: τῆς περὶ φρόνησιν κτήσεως. “ All the instruments that share in the operations for producing clothes.” plete until all these have been parted off. We must not be con- tented with saying that it is the noblest of the indus- tries which have to do with wool- len cloth, First, then, we may draw a uni- versal dis- tinction between productive and admi- nicular arts; and then apply this distine- tion to the case in point. Washing, mending, and other furbishing of clothes, carding, spinning, 20 and the other em- ployments operose Minervee included under wool- working, are pro- ductive arts. 94: IAATQNOS / \ ἃ > \ / \ / εἴπωμεν, τὰς δὲ αὐτὰ θεραπευούσας καὶ δημιουργού- p. 2 > / σας αἰτιας : NE. ΣΩ. ᾿Ορθότατα. ZE. Tov αἰτιῶν δὴ πλυντικὴν μὲν καὶ ἀκεστικὴν Pp. 488 Βκαὶ πᾶσαν τὴν περὶ ταῦτα θεραπευτικήν, πο. οὔσης τῆς κοσμητικῆς τοὐνταῦθα αὐτῆς μύριον, εἰκὸς 7 ’ > Lag rat ΄ ͵7ὔ μάλιστα περιλαμβάνειν ὀνομάζοντας πᾶν τῇ τέχνῃ τῇ κναφευτικῇ. NE. 2Q. KadAds. EE. Kal μὴν *€avricn® ye καὶ Ἐγηστικὴ Ἔ καὶ 7 3 Ν Ν Χ / 5 A nm “ “-“ παντα αὖ τὰ περὶ τὴν ποίησιν αὐτὴν τῆς ἐσθῆτος ἧς / / 7 / 3 / lal « Ν / λέγομεν μέρη, μία TIS ἐστι τέχνη τῶν ὑπο πάντων λεγομένων, ἡ ταλασιουργική. I. αὐτὰ] Se. τὰ ἀμφιέσματα. 4. Τῶν αἰτιῶν ---- πλυντικήν] The partitive genitive, as in τῆς γνωστικῆς ὅσον ἐπιτακτικὸν, supr. 263 6; τὰ πεζὰ τῶν ἡμέρων, supr. 265 b. 5. πολλῆς ---- μόριον] Appo- sition. The genitive is not absolute, but is resumed in αὐτῆς because of the interven- tion of the participle. See Thest. 155 6, and note. ἡ. περιλαμβάνειν----κναφευτικῇ] The dative is governed by περιλαμβάνειν, Which ὀνομάζοντας explains. Cf. Soph. 225 a: τῷ---σώματι πρὸς σώματα γιγ- νομένῳ--- ὄνομα λέγειν τι τοιοῦ- τον τιθεμένους οἷον βιαστικόν. Phedr. 273 6; Theet. 148 6; Soph. 226 6. The accusative πᾶν depends on the participle and the infinitive taken toge- ther. πᾶν] Agreeing with μόριον, and of course including πλυντι- κὴν, ἀκεστικήν K.T.A, το. ἔξαντικὴ" ἕνηστική"} MSS. ξαντικὴν----νηστικὴν. The correc tion is due to Stephanus. II. ἧς λέγομεν] Se. τῆς ἐρεᾶς. 12. μία τίς ἐστι τέχνη] “ Form a single art which is one of those universally acknow- ledged, that of working in wool.” Cf. Legg. 7; 805 e: κερκίδων ἄρχειν καὶ πάσης ταλα- σίας. ἐστι follows the num- ber of the nearest word, and is also assisted by the neuter plural μέρη. Cf infr. b, πᾶν τοῦτο, and 284 6, 288 d: Χρυ- σόν τε καὶ ἄργυρον καὶ πάνθ᾽ ὁπόσα μεταλλεύεται K.T.A. — καὶ φλοιστικὴ ---- καὶ ὅσαι --- εἰσὶ τέχναι" ἕν δὲ αὐτὸ προσαγορεύομεν πᾶν. Where αὐτὸ, referring to all the preceding nominatives, is made singular by ἕν. τῶν --- λεγομένων͵] “ Used in common parlance,” so that it is needless to invent a technical name. Cf. Soph. 220d: ὑπ᾽ αὐτῶν τῶν περὶ τὴν Ως, «δ ! Ι b ΠΟΛΙΤΙΚΟΣ. 95 482. ΝΕ. ΣΩ. Πῶς γὰρ ov ; EE. Τὴς δὴ ταλασιουργικῆς δύο τμήματά ἐστον, / c 7 “ ΄- / / καὶ τούτοιν ἑκάτερον ἅμα δυοῖν πεφύκατον τέχναιν μέρη. NE. 3Q. Πώς: μοὶ Ν \ Ν ὡς Ν a n HEH. To μὲν ξαντικὸν καὶ τὸ τῆς κερκιστικῆς Ψ Qe? \ > / > / ἥμισυ καὶ ὅσα τὰ ξυγκείμενα ἀπ᾿ ἀλλήλων ἀφίστησι, “-“ a A ¢ a / td Heo) πᾶν τοῦτο ὡς ἕν φράζειν τῆς TE ταλασιουργίας αὐτῆς » / Ν ΄ \ ἈΝ 7 cacy yy €OTL TOU, Και μεγάλα τινε κατὰ TAVTA μιν στὴν / « / / τέχνα, ἡ συγκριτικὴ TE καὶ διακριτική---- NE. ΣΩ. Ναί θήραν πυρευτικὴν ῥηθῆναι συμ- βέβηκεν. The Stranger loves to parade the commonness of his examples. For the genitive, cf. Rep. το, 615 d: ἐθεασόμεθα —kal τοῦτο τῶν δείνων θεαμάτων. An art acknowledged by all men is distinguished from one for which a name has to be invented, such as δοξομιμητική in the Sophist. 3. τούτοιν ἑκάτερον---πεφύκα- τον] The dual verb is used because τούτοιν ἑκάτερον = τούτω ἕκατερον, Which is rather sug- gested by the plural μέρη. Cf. infr. 284 6: διαφέρον ἀλλή- ow. “And these are parts, each of them of two arts at once :” viz. the one of rada- σιουργικὴ and συγκριτικὴ, the other of ταλασ. and διακριτ. 6. τὸ τῆς κερκιστικῆς ἡμισύ] The use of the κερκὶς or “comb” was partly to drive the threads of the woof close together, but partly also (as appears from Cratyl. 388 a) to keep the threads of the warp and woof (here especially the warp, infr. στήμοσι) dis- tinct. This latter “half” of the use of the comb belongs to διακριτική, ‘ divisive art.” 9. μεγάλα τινὲ --- διακριτική | The course of the sentence is interrupted by the introduc- tion of this clause. The words should have run, τῆς τε ταλα- σιουργίας αὐτῆς ἔστι που καὶ τῆς διακριτικῆς. But the last word required explanation, which is conversationally interposed. Ci oma Oda th 424-4 5): alib. Soph. Cid. Col. 471- 473: Ο. Grav δὲ τοῦτο χεῦμ᾽ ἀκήρατον λάβω: X. κρατῆρές εἰσιν, ἀνδρὸς εὔχειρος τέχνη, ὧν κρᾶτ᾽ ἔρεψον καὶ λαβὰς ἀμφιστό- μους. Hjusd. Trach. 750-75 “sy? ec 3 , > ᾿»{Ἰ ὅθ᾽ εἷρπε----ἀκτή τις---ἐστιν, ἔνθα -- βώμους ὁρίζει ---- οὗ νιν --- ἐσεῖδον. 9. ἤστην] “There are two comprehensive arts of univer- sal application, with which we are familiar.” Cf. Soph. 228 e: ἐγενέσθην. Ib. 258 6: ἦν τε ν»»-» καὶ ἔστι. Compare the frequent use of the perfect : 6. g. νενόμικα Soph. 557 ὃ 59 ἂν 5ύη ἢ infr. 293 b. Now of wool-work- ing there are two chief kinds, each falling under one of the two great cate- gories of division and compo- sition. Carding and one use of the comb be- long to wool-work- ing and division. But our concern is with that part of wool-work- ing which is a part of composi- tion: of which one kind twists and the other inter- laces. 96 SE. Ths τοίνυν Sle puna 1) TE ξαντικῇ καὶ τὰ p. 284 ἢ ΠΛΑΤΩΝΟΣ νῦν δὴ ῥηθέντα ἅπαντά ἐστιν; ἡ γὰρ ἐν ἐρίοις τε καὶ © στήμοσι διακριτική, κερκίδι μὲν ἄλλον τρόπον γιγ- / \ 9 yy “ > / 5 / νομένη, χερσὶ δὲ ἕτερον, ETXEV OTA ἀρτίως ὀνόματα βἐρρήθη. NE. ΣΩ. Πάνυ μὲν οὖν. ΞΕ. Αὖθις δὴ πάλιν συγκριτικῆς μόριον ἅμα καὶ 7 > CY. was / / “ Ν ταλασιουργίας ἐν αὑτῇ γιγνόμενον λαβωμεν" σα δὲ τῆς διακριτικῆς ἦν αὐτόθι, “μεθιῶμεν᾽" ξύμπαντα, δίχα a If κριτικῷ τμηματι. ΝΕ. 2Q. Διῃρήσθω. ’, \ / “ τοτέμνοντες τὴν ταλασιουργίαν διακριτικῷ τε καὶ συγ- μ- x XN 5 EE. To συγκριτικὸν τοίνυν αὖ σοι καὶ ταλασι- 2. ἐν ἐρίοις τε καὶ στήμοσι] ξαντική being employed with the former, τὸ τῆς κερκιστικῆς ἡμισύ with the latter. 3. kepxidv] Viz. in the case of the warp. 4. χερσὶ] In that of the raw wool. ἔσχεν ---- ὀνόματα] Cf. Soph. 227 ἃ, ὄνοματα ἔσχεν, and note. Tim. 39 ἃ: ὅσα δὲ οὐρανοῦ πορευόμενα ἔσχε τροπάς. 8. ἐν αὐτῇ γιγνόμενον] “ Find- ing place therein :” viz. ἐν τῇ ταλασιουργίᾳ, which is the ge- neral subject. “'To be referred thither as contained therein :” as when a segment of one circle is contained in another circle. Stallbaum punctuates before αὐτόθι, which he trans- lates Hic statim, an emphatic sense, which in Attic Greek is generally reserved for αὐτοῦ, “ Let us now turn and take a part of the process of wool- working, which is at the same time a part of composition ; and let us dismiss (μεθιῶμεν) all the parts of division which we found there (ἦν αὐτόθι, sc. ἐν αὐτῇ), separating the art into two halves, distinguished by composition and division.” MSS. μετίωμεν. No attempt is made to “follow up” (pe- tievat) the divisions of διακρι- tixn. Probably therefore for μετίωμεν we should read μεθι- ὦμεν or μεθῶμεν, as Hermann has already seen. The present tense agrees better with réuvov- which is in immediate construction with it. The pres. subj. occurs Phileb. 62 d: pe&io. It is surprising that Dr. Badham should prefer μετῇμεν to this. Cf. Soph. 267 b: τὸ δ᾽ ἄλλο πᾶν ἀφῶμεν pa- λακισθέντες---μεθείσθω. 13. Τὸ συγκριτικὸν----διαιρετέον] “You must again, Socrates, divide the part which belongs at once to combination and to wool-working.” TES, ΠΟΛΙΤΙΚΟΣ. 97 8 \ o , 53 , ’ ” 702, ουργικον Apa μόριον, @ Σώκρατες, διαιρετέον, εἰπεὲρ d e “Ὁ / \ - « \ ΄ ἱκανῶς μέλλομεν τὴν προρρηθεῖσαν ὑφαντικὴν αἱ- ρήσειν. NE. 2Q. Οὐκοῦν χρή. HE. Χρὴ μὲν οὖν" καὶ λέγωμέν γε αὐτῆς τὸ μὲν 5 5 , Ν \ , εἰναι OTPETTLKOV, TO δὲ συμπλεκτικον. NE. 2Q. ἾΑρ᾽ οὖν μανθάνω ; δοκεῖς γάρ μοι τὸ \ \ lal 2 / / πέρι THY TOV στήμονος ἐργασίαν λέγειν στρέτπτικον. HE. Οὐ μόνον γε, ἀλλὰ καὶ κρόκης. ἢ γένεσιν The warp, 57 / De) e / aOTpopoy τινα αὐτῆς εὑρήσομεν ; ΝΕ. ΣΏ. Οὐδαμώς. EK A {7 δὴ Ν 7 € ’ : 57 \ μα 1... ἰορίσαι 1) Και TOUTOLV EKATEPOV lows yap « ‘ yy 4 , 0 διορισμὸς ἐγκαιρος ἂν σοι γένοιτο. NE. ΣΩ. πῇ; HE. Τῇδε. τῶν περὶ ξαντικὴν ἔργων μηκυνθέν τε x5 N Ν , , 5 ͵ 4 καὶ σχὸν πλάτος λέγομεν εἰναι καταγμὰ τι; NE. ΣΏ. Ναί. \ EE. Τούτου δὴ τὸ μὲν ἀτράκτῳ τε στραφὲν καὶ Ἃ “ ip \ XN a στερεὸν νῆμα γενόμενον στήμονα μὲν φάθι TO νῆμα, 8. τοῦ στήμονος] The woof has not yet been mentioned. Cf. supr.: ἐν στήμοσι. 9. ἀλλὰ καὶ κρόκης ] The woof was more loosely spun: hence, as well as for the rea- son just given, (that no men- tion had been made of the woof,) Young Socrates’ over- sight is more excusable. γένεσιν---εὑρήσομεν 3] “ Shall we find any mode of producing it without twisting ?” 15. τῶν περὶ ξαντικὴν ἔργων τι is to be supplied from below. It often happens in these dia- logues that a word is contrived to “pay a double debt.” Cf. infr, 226 Ὁ: τοῦ σοφιστοῦ πέρι k.T.X. τό. σχὸν πλάτος] Cf. supr. ec, note on ἔσχεν. κάταγμα] The word is used by Sophocles, Trach. 695, and the corresponding verb κατάγειν occurs in Soph. 226 ὁ : ξαίνειν, κατάγειν, κερκίζειν. 18. ἀτράκτῳ] It would ap- pear from this that the woof was spun by the hand without the use of the spindle. 19. στερεὸν νῆμα] Probably hinting at a derivation for στημτ-ων, Quasi στερρονημ-. στήμονα----στημονονητικὴν] The sentence becomes irregular from expansion. The Bodl. has στη- povoyntixny with AZILEY. * oO and also 10 the woof, are made by twist- ing. Hence spinning is distin- guished into two branches : the one producing a compact and hard, the other a looser and softer, yarn—each being pro- portioned to the other with a view to the final result, These dis- tinctions bring the art of wool- 98 \ / τικην. NE. ΣΩ. Ὀρθῶς. ΠΛΑΤΩΝΟΣ δ 3 \ \ \ ΄ EE. Ὅσα δέ γε αὖ τὴν μὲν συστροφὴν χαύνην 5 λαμβάνει, τῇ δὲ τοῦ στήμονος ἐμπλέζει πρὸς τὴν τῆς / « \ 5 \ / 5, γνάψεως ὁλκὴν ἐμμέτρως τὴν μαλακότητα ἰσχει, 3, ΤΩ / \ \ / 34) We ΄ TQUT ἀρὰ κροκὴν μεν τὰ νηθέντα, τὴν δὲ ἐπιτεταγμε- > o 5 ’, NIA νων. \ la νὴν αὐτοῖς εἶναι τέχνην *TwWwa™ KpokovyTiKny φῶμεν. NE. ΣΏ. ᾿Ορθότατα. EE. Καὶ μὴν τό γε τῆς ὑφαντικῆς μέρος ὃ προὺ- θέμεθα, παντί που δῆλον ἤδη. I. αὐτὰ] Se. τὰ ταύτης τῆς συστροφῆς (viz. τῆς νήσεωςῚ) ἔργα. Vague neut. pl.: cf. Theset. 207 6. 4. χαύνην͵ῇ Used literally — “ open” (from χαίνω). Cf. Aristoph. Ay. 819; Passow, ex. s. v- 5. τῇ δὲ Tov—itoye] “ But have a softness proportioned to the intertexture of the woof, with a view to the de- gree of force to be used in dressing the cloth.” So the gentle and brave natures are combined with a view to their profiting by the rubs which give the finishing touches to a state. Cf. infr. 310. The reading of =, τοῦ κναφέως, de- serves consideration. 8. χτινὰκ 7 MSS., τήν : Κὶ om. Cf. Theset.172e: ubi vulg. τὴν: four MSS., τινα. Soph. 218 c: τέχνη τις κτητικηῆ. Ib. 220 €: τριοδοντία τις. κροκο- yntikn 18 ἅπαξ λεγόμενον, hence the article is out of place. 10. μέρος ὃ πρ.] Se. τὸ τῆς ἐρεᾶς ἐσθῆτος ὑφαντικόν. τὸ γὰρ συγκριτικῆς 11. τὸ γὰρ---ὑφαντικήν] “ For when one part of the composi- tion contained in wool-working creates a fabric by the direct intertexture of warp and woof, we call the whole result wool- len cloth, and the art which presides over this we call weaving.” Lit. “ That portion of the combining branch of wool-working (which finds place) when” &e. Cf. supr. 282 ¢. Or, perhaps, “ When the branch of the art of com- bination which is contained in wool-working creates” ὅσο. In the latter case the genitive is either (1) gen. of apposition, like τινὸς γένους in Soph. 257 6: or (2) τῆς is genitive by attrac- tion to συγκριτικῆς for τὸ, “ the part of composition included in wool-working :” or (3) there may be a transition from the former to the latter meaning : 1. 6, συγκριτικῆς is at first par- titive, but as resumed with τῆς, is the genitive of apposition. But the meaning given above is the most natural, and is not ; \ ’ ’ \ / 3 τὴν δὲ ἀπευθύνουσαν αὐτὰ τέχνην εἶναι στημονονῆή- Ῥ. 48" Ρ. 28 TIOAITIKO®. 99 a > / / “ » ‘ , τῆς ἐν ταλασιουργίᾳ μόριον ὅταν εὐθυπλοκίᾳ κρόκης ἈΝ / 3 / vA ἊΝ \ \ καὶ στήμονος ἀπεργάζηται πλέγμα, TO μὲν πλεχθὲν ξύμπαν ἐσθῆτα ἐρεᾶν, τὴν δὲ ἐπὶ τούτῳ τέχνην οὖσαν ε / προσαγορεύομεν ὑφαντικήν. J NE. 2Q. ᾿Ορθότατα. [5 / ΄ 3 δ ΄ ΞΕ. Kiev’ τί δή ποτε οὖν οὐκ εὐθὺς ἀπεκρινάμεθα \ 53 / / . πλεκτικὴν εἶναι κρόκης καὶ στήμονος ὑφαντικήν, \ 7 ,ὔ 7 / ἀλλὰ περιήλθομεν ἐν κύκλῳ πάμπολλα διοριζόμενοι » μάτην: NE. ΣΏ. Οὔκουν ἔμοιγε, ὦ ῥηθέντων ἔδοξε ῥηθῆναι. (ate 7 » \ lal ξένε, μάτην οὐδὲν τῶν / , \ 7 3, HEH. Kai θαυμαστὸν γε οὐδέν: ἀλλὰ τάχ᾽ ay, 5 ΄ , Ν ΝΥΝ , \ = ὦ μακάριε, δόξειε. πρὸς δὴ TO νόσημα TO τοιοῦτον, DY) y ΄, Ψ Ties, \ \ av apa πολλάκις ὕστερον ἐπίῃ--- θαυμαστὸν yap 7 YA “/ VY 7 οὐδέν--- λόγον ἀκουσόὸν τινα προσήκοντα περὶ TaVv- ἴω , lol τῶν τῶν τοιούτων ῥηθῆναι. , NE. 2Q. Λέγε μόνον. — na , 3/ a ’ ε EE. Πρῶτον τοίνυν ἴδωμεν πᾶσαν τήν τε ὑπερ- Ni \ 37. ¢ \ 7 a βολὴν Kat τὴν ἔλλειψιν, ἵνα κατὰ Aoyoy ἐπαινῶμεν / \ / a / 7 καὶ ψέγωμεν TA μακρότερα τοῦ δέοντος ἑκάστοτε , Ν 3 / \ \ ΄ λεγόμενα καὶ τἀναντία περὶ tas τοιάσδε δια- τριβας. the less probable for being somewhat involved. ἡ ἐν ταλα- σιουργίᾳ συγκριτική τηιιϑὺ in this case be supplied as the subject of ἀπεργάζηται. 6. τί δή more] This raises the whole question of the uti- lity of the present method, for which see General Introduc- tion. Cf. also Gorg. 453, 454. 13. τὸ νόσημα τὸ T.| Se. τὸ δόξαι ἄττα μάτην ῥηθῆναι. 14. πολλάκις] “ Haply, as it very likely may.” Cf. Pheedr. 238 6: ἐὰν ἄρα πολλάκις νυμφό- ληπτος προϊόντος τοῦ λόγου γένω- μαι, μὴ θαυμάσῃς. 21. τἀναντία] 1. 6. βραχύτερα τοῦ δέοντος. περὶ τὰς τοιάσδε διατριβάς | These words depend on ἐπαι- νῶμεν καὶ ψέγωμεν as well as on héyoueva. ‘That with refer- ence to such interviews as this we may apportion praise and blame reasonably to the argu- ments used in them.” (Cf. Phedr, 234 e: Ti δέ: kat * OQ 2 10 15 20 weaving into clearer light: as that part of the com- position included in wool- working in which a webismade by the di- rect inter- texture of woof and warp. But why could we not say at once that weaving was the intertex- ture of warp and woot 7 Lest some one should think our labourvain, let us exa- mine the whole ques- tion of length and brevity. 100 MAATQNO® NE. 2Q. Οὐκοῦν χρή. » al ΄ / ΄ ΄ 53 BE. Περὶ δὴ τούτων αὐτῶν ὁ λόγος ἡμῖν, οἶμαι, p. 28:0} / > “ ᾿᾽ γιγνόμενος ὀρθῶς ἂν γίγνοιτο. NE. ΣΩ. Τίνων ; — / 7 Ν " εν 4 5 ΞΕ. Mnkous τε πέρι καὶ βραχύτητος καὶ maons « ΄Ὁ 3 « 7 \ ὑπεροχῆς τε Kal ἐλλείψεως. ἡ yap Tov μετρητικὴ ἃ περὶ πάντ᾽ ἐστὶ ταῦτα. NE. 2Q. Ναί. | 4 Ἁ , / lal A \ There are EE. Διέλωμεν τοίνυν αὐτὴν δύο μέρη" δεῖ yap δὴ two kinds Nl eae ͵ of excess: 10 7TPOS ὃ νῦν σπεύδομεν. one merel , δ \ , is relative, z NE ΣΏ. Λέγοις ἂν τὴν διαίρεσιν omy. the other ΞΕ. Tyde τὸ μὲν κατὰ τὴν πρὸς ἄλληλα μεγέ- ταύτῃ δεῖ ὑπ᾽ ἐμοῦ τε καὶ σοῦ τὸν λόγον ἐπαινεθῆναι, ὡς τὰ δέοντα εἰρηκότος τοῦ ποιητοῦ, ἀλλ᾽ οὐκ ἐκείνῃ μόνον, ὅτι σαφῆ καὶ στρογ- γύλα κ-.τ.λ. 5. Μήκους τε πέρι----ἐλλείψεως | For an application of the fol- lowing idea, cf. Legg. 4,719 d: οὔσης yap ταφῆς τῆς μὲν ὑπερβε- βλημένης τῆς δὲ ἐλλειπούσης τῆς δὲ μετρίας. Ib. 722 a: τὰ γὰρ βέλτιστα, ἀλλ’ οὐ τὰ βραχύτατα Tim, 82 a: τὸ τῶν νόσων ὅθεν ξυνίσταται, δηλόν που καὶ παντί---γῆς πυρὸς ὕδατός τε καὶ ἀέρος, τούτων 7 παρὰ φύσιν πλεονεξία καὶ ἔνδεια. Theset. 172 6: καὶ διὰ μακρῶν ἢ βραχέων μέλει οὐδὲν λέγειν, ἂν μόνον τύχωσι τοῦ ὄντος. 6. ἡ γάρ mov] So the Bodl., with T=: cett. ἢ. μετρητική] Cf. Phileb. sub fin. The first mention of pe- τρητικὴ is in the Protagoras, where it has not been suffi- ciently observed that the ‘utili- tarian’ hypothesis is only used as a means to bring Protagoras οὐδὲ τὰ μήκη τιμητέον. to acknowledge that virtue is science. Thus expediency is the point of transition from the arbitrary to the just, as in Theset. 178 τὸ ὠφέλιμον is the point of transition from the apparent to the real good. 9. δύο μέρη] For the accus., cf. Hdt. VI. 100: ἐφρόνεον δι- φασίας ἰδέας. 10. πρὸς ὁ] I. 6.,πρὸς τοῦτο ὃ. Cf. Theeet. 177 6: τοῦτο δέ που σκῶμμ᾽ ἂν εἴη πρὸς ὃ λέγομεν. II. ὅπῃ] Se. διαιρετέον. Cf. Soph. did. Tyr. 926, Aj. 103, 874. 12. The words τὴν πρὸς ἄλ- Ana μεγέθους καὶ σμικρότητος κοινωνίαν are not free from doubt. For they may mean either “the mutual communion of greatness and littleness,” (where the article seems to be required,) or “ the participa- tion (of things) in greatness and littleness relatively to one another.” The latter is right ; although the former meaning may not unnaturally suggest ΠΟΛΙΤΙΚΟΣ. 101 / ‘ a 83. θους καὶ σμικρότητος κοινωνίαν, TO δὲ κατὰ τὴν τῆς — referenceto the stand- γενέσεως ἀναγκαίαν οὐσίαν. ard of what a ΄ is Meet: NE. 2Q. Ids λέγεις ; the More oy lal -“ 4 d the mE. ΓΑρ᾽ οὐ κατὰ φύσιν δοκεῖ σοι TO μεῖζον Too Much. ἊΝ « vad ΄ / ΩΝ al ΄, μηδενὸς ἑτέρου δεῖν μεῖζον λέγειν ἢ τοῦ ἐλάττονος, - 3, 3 “ / yf. A \ καὶ τοὔλαττον αὖ Tov μείζονος ἔλαττον, ἄλλου δὲ μηδενός ; NE. ΣΩ. "Ἐμοιγε. eH. Ti δέ; τὸ τὴν itself to a reader of the So- phist, where the κοινωνία chiefly spoken of is the mutual com- munion of ideas. Compare with this whole passage Phzedo too, 101. Note that τὸ μεῖζον -- τὸ μεγέθους κοινώνουν πρὸς τὸ And τὸ ἔλαττον = τὸ σμικρότητος κοινώνουν πρὸς τὸ μεῖζον. 1. τὸ δὲ --- οὐσία"Ζζυ These words are meant to be enig- matical, like the definition of rhetoric as πολιτικῆς μορίου εἴδωλον in Gorg. 463 d, or as τῆς τῶν ἐπῳδῶν τέχνης μόριον In Euthyd.289e. (ἀνάπαυλα γὰρ τῆς σπουδῆς γίγνεται ἐνίοτε ἡ παιδιά, Phileb. 30 6.) But they are less clearly explained in what follows. They seem to be connected with the assertion that a standard is necessary to the existence of the pro- ductions of art (infr. 284 a, b), and may probably be ren- dered “ according to the other- wise impossible existence of production.” ἀναγκαίαν is then used in the same sense as in Rep. 2, 369 6: εἴη δ᾽ ἂν ἡ avay- καιοτάτη πόλις ἐκ τεττάρων ἢ πέντε ἀνδρῶν. “A city could not ἔλαττον. a / ΄ τοῦ μετρίου φύσιν ὑπερ- possibly consist of less than four or five men.” And γένεσις is a general word for the ope- rations of all the arts. Cf. Soph. 235 8, Phileb. 27 a. Compare Legg. 10, 9093 d: κατὰ δύναμιν τὴν τῆς κοινῆς γενέ- σεως. I.e. “So far as it was possible that both should be combined.” Translate, therefore —‘“ TI divide the art of measur- ing in the following way. One part is determined by the fact that things partake of great- ness and smallness relatively to each other: the other by this, that without it the exist- ence of production would be impossible.” A similar verbal use of the word οὐσία occurs immediately below (e, οὐσίας) and in p. 285 b: γένους τινὸς οὐσίᾳ. The meaning of this passage will appear more clearly on comparing Phileb. 25d, 26 ὁ: 9. Ti δέ;--- ἀγαθοὶ ;| “ But, again, shall we not say that there is really found that which exceeds or is exceeded by the nature of the Meet, in words, or, if so be, in deeds, and that herein consists the 102 ΄, ε / « δ τ τ " βάλλον καὶ ὑπερβαλλόμενον ὑπ᾽ αὐτῆς ἐν λόγοις εἴτε p. 28}! ΠΛΑΤΩΏΝΟΣ Ν > »y Ye > 9 / « "7 ΄ και εν εργοις ap οὐκ GU λέξομεν ως OVTWS γίγνο- a , ͵ ΄ ra cd Ἂς μενον, ἐν ᾧ καὶ διαφέρουσι μάλιστα ἡμῶν οἵ τε κακοὶ Ν ἘῸΝ / καὶ οἱ ἀγαθοί ; NE. ΣΏ. Paiverac. \ 3, / > / Ν / o GE. Aurras ἄρα ταῦτας οὐσίας καὶ κρίσεις τοῦ val lal / 5 ,’ > e y+ μεγάλου Kal τοῦ σμικροῦ θετέον, ἀλλ᾽ οὐχ ὡς ἐφαμεν 3, Ν 3, vad 2 3. la) 7 ἄρτι πρὸς ἄλληλα μόνον δεῖν, ἀλλ᾽ ὥσπερ νῦν εἴρη- ται μᾶλλον τὴν μὲν πρὸς ἄλληλα λεκτέον, τὴν δ᾽ αὖ \ Ν ΄ὕ Ὄ δὲ “ bei; 3 OX ιοπρὸς TO μέτριον. οὗ δὲ ἕνεκα, μαθεῖν ap av βου- λοίμεθα ; ΝΕ. ΣΩ. Τί μήν: chief mark of difference be- tween bad men and good?” Compare Rep. 1, 349, where it is shewn that the good and wise man does not aim at “more” but at “what is meet.” “When workmen strive to do better than well They do confound their skill in coyetousness.” (9.) τοῦ μετρίου φύσιν] Com- pare the θατέρου φύσις of the Sophist, the ἀΐδιος φύσις of the Philebus, and the ἐξαίφνης φύ- σις of the Parmenides. The word φύσις expresses the more concrete or determinate con- ception of the Idea. 6. Arras ἄρα---Θετέον] “ We must therefore assume that great and small exist and are discerned in these two ways, in- stead of following what we just now said, that one must only judge or speak of them (δεῖν sc. κρίνειν implied in κρίσεις, or perhaps λέγειν from supr. d) relatively to each other : instead of this we must speak rather in accordance with what has just fallen from us, of one mode of their existence which is mutually relative, and of an- other which is relative to an ideal standard.” The minute- ness of the antithesis, ἀλλὰ---- οὐχ---ἀλλὰ, and the explicit re- sumption of the first clause with the second ἀλλά, make the sentence rather tortuous, but the meaning is clear. In the words ἀλλὰ----δεῖν the chief pre- dicate is absorbed, as frequently happens, in the relative clause. Cf. Phileb. 54 d: ὅπερ---εἶπον — dev. 10. οὗ δ᾽ ἕνεκα] Plato’s dia- lectical subtleties have gene- rally an end beyond them- selves. Here the end is the vindication of the Arts, in order to establish an Art of Rule. Cf. Theet. 184 d: rod δέ τοι ἕνεκα αὐτά σοι διακριβῶμαι. βουλοίμεθα]! The first per- son is used, as more gentle than the second, o_o SSG 84. MOAITIKO®. 103 ’ Ν \ o \ “- , HE. Ei πρὸς μηδὲν ἕτερον τὴν Tov μείζονος ἐάσει Ἂ Ν 3 ᾽ 3, \ \ Ν τις φύσιν ἢ πρὸς τοὔλαττον, οὐκ ἔσται ποτὲ πρὸς τὸ / 53 , μέτριον. ἢ yap; NE. ΣΏΩ. Οὕτως. μι > na \ / LEN Ν " 5 3 mE. Οὐκοῦν ras τέχνας τε αὑτὰς καὶ τάργα av- a , τι “ ἐκ 7 ἴω / Ν Ἀ τῶν ξύμπαντα * διολοῦμεν ὃ τούτῳ τῷ λόγῳ, καὶ δὴ \ / al \ Χ « σ΄ καὶ τὴν ζητουμένην νῦν πολιτικὴν καὶ τὴν ῥηθεῖσαν - Χ lal “ \ a ὑφαντικὴν ἀφανιοῦμεν ; ἅπασαι yap αἱ τοιαῦταί που ἘΝ lal / / Ν ay > « 5 ΕΝ TO τοῦ μετρίου πλέον καὶ ἔλαττον οὐχ ὡς οὐκ OV ΕΝ Ν A / ᾽ὔὕ ἀλλ᾽ ὡς ὃν χαλεπὸν περὶ τὰς πράξεις παραφυλάτ- N ip \ na , \ , 7, τουσι, και TOUT@ δὴ T@ TpoT@ TO μέτρον σώζουσαι Ζ, > \ \ Ne ΄ πάντα ἀγαθὰ καὶ καλὰ ἀπεργάζονται. NE. ΣΟ. Τί μήν: ἴω ὮΝ \ XN / 77 HE. Οὐκοῦν ἂν τὴν πολιτικὴν ἀφανίσωμεν, ἀπο- 1. ἐάσει] “ Will admit.” Sc. εἶναι, to be supplied from ἔσται infr., for which ellipse οἵ. Thezet. 195 d: ἀμφότερά ye κιν- δυνεύει ὁ λόγος οὐκ ἐάσειν (50. εἶναι or αἱρεῖσθαι). 5. τὰς τέχνας τε] τε iS an- swered by καὶ δὴ καὶ : αὐτὰς καὶ τἄργα αὐτῶν ξύμπαντα is epexe- getic of τέχνας. 6. * διολοῦμεν x | MSS. διε- hodpev. The correction is due to Bekker. 8. ἅπασαι yap | Cf. Arist. ’ Eth. Nic. V. 4,12: ἐστι δὲ καὶ ἐπὶ τῶν ἄλλων τέχνων τοῦτο. ἀν- ηροῦντο γὰρ ἂν, εἰ μὴ ὁ ποιῶν καὶ ὅσον καὶ οἷον K.T.X. το. ὡς ὃν χαλεπὸν] “ As being baneful.” Badham objects to χαλεπὸν on the ground that this adj. placed absolutely can only mean “ difficult to ob- tain :” and conjectures χαλεπῶς — παραφυλάττουσ. But cf. Symp. 176 ἃ: ὅτι χαλεπὸν τοῖς ἀνθρώποις ἣ μεθη ἐστί. Ib. 204: αὐτὸ γὰρ τοῦτο χαλεπὸν ἀμαθία. Infr. 308 a: Χαλεπὸν εἶπες καὶ δεινὸν πάθος. For παραφ. cf. Lege. 4, 715 a. The distinction between the two kinds of μετρητικὴ is not present in Protagoras, p. 357. ὡς ὃν χαλεπὸν περὶ Tas πράξεις παραφυλάττουσι] περὶ τὰς πραξ. has a double reference to xan. and παραφ., like περὶ τὰς---δια- τριβάς supr. 283 6. Cf. Prot. 315 d: 6 τι--- πονηρὸν περὶ τὸ σῶμα. 12. πάντα --- ἀπεργάζονται | Compare the rhythm of Rep. 8, 546 C: πάντα προσήγορα καὶ ῥητὰ πρὸς ἄλληλα ἀπέφηναν, and for the expression, Legg. 4, 711 d, 6, 780 6: πάντα ἀγαθὰ ἀπερ- γάζεται. Ib. 783 6. Tim. 50 6. 14. ἀφανίσωμεν] Cf. Soph. 240 C: ὃς ἂν ἐπιστήμην---ἀφανί- ζων ἰσχυρίζηται περί τινος ὅπη- ovy. σι Without such a standard as is here postulated, the arts and their produc- tions would be destroy- 10 ed, or ra- ther made impossible. For it is by keeping just mea- surement that the arts per- form their functions, Shall we then, as in defining the Sophist we forced the point that Not- Being has Being, now demon- strate that excess 15 not merely relative, but has sometimes referenceto a standard ? Without this the art of statesman- ship must perish with all the other arts. And yet 104 pos ἡμῖν ἡ μετὰ τοῦτο ἔσται ζητησις τῆς βασιλικῆς p. 28} ἐπιστήμης ; ΝΕ. ΣΏ. Καὶ μάλα. ΠΛΑΤΏΝΟΣ ho 53 Z 2 Ἂ a &E. Tlorepov οὖν, καθάπερ ev τῷ σοφιστῇ προσ- ΄ 5 \ Ν 7 \ ‘ 5 βηναγκασαμεν εἶναι TO μὴ OV, ἐπειδὴ κατὰ τοῦτο ὃ 7 ΕΣ δι « , “ Ν an Ν / 3 ιέφυγεν ἡμᾶς ὁ λόγος, οὕτω καὶ νῦν TO πλέον αὖ ΑΛ \ ’ \ καὶ ἐλαττον HET PITA 7 POO AVAYKAOTEOV γίγνεσθαι μῆ XN 37) » »"Ζ πρὸς ἄλληλα μόνον ἀλλὰ καὶ πρὸς τὴν τοῦ μετρίου ρ UY] , > \ \ ω y+ x yf ? γένεσιν ; ov yap On δυνατὸν ye οὔτε πολιτικὸν OUT yy \ a Ν \ ΄ 5 ῇ 3 τοἄλλον τινὰ τῶν περὶ τὰς πράζεις ἐπιστήμονα ἄναμ- φισβητήτως γεγονέναι τούτου μὴ ξυνομολογηθέντος. NE. ΣΏ. Οὐκοῦν καὶ viv 6 τι μάλιστα χρὴ ταὐ- Ν lad TOV TTOLELV. μααὶ ,ὔ 53 ᾽ὔ ϑι al \ a Sy BE. Πλέον, ὦ Σώκρατες, ἔτι τοῦτο TO ἔργον ἢ » la / 3 / / \ a rf 15 KELVO’ καί TOL κἀκείνου γε μεμνήμεθα TO μῆκος ὅσον 53 9 5. ἰξ , \ ἣν ΄ὔ N x A \ nv. ἀλλ᾽ ὑποτίθεσθαι μὲν TO TOLOVOE περὶ αὑτῶν καὶ ’ μάλα δίκαιον. 4. ἐν τῷ σοφιστῇ] ‘In treat- ing of the Sophist.” A form of reference like ἐν τῇ παραβολῇ τῶν βίων, Phileb. 33 Ὁ : ἐν τοῦ σκήπτρου τῇ παραδόσει. Thue. I. το. 5. ἐπειδὴ ---λόγος] “ Because at this point the question eluded our grasp.” 8. mpos—mpos] There is a slight variation in the mean- ing of πρός. “ Not only in com- parison with each other, but with a view to the production of that which is meet.” Τὸ μέτριον is the result of the ap- plication of μέτρον to produc- tion. 9. γένεσιν] Cf. supr. 283 d. The frequent use of the word γένεσις, in the most general sense, is one of the character- istic points of diction which connect this dialogue with Philebus, Timzeus, and Laws. 7? οὔτ᾽ ἄλλον τινὰ---- γεγονέναι] Eight MSS. (including the best) have τὸν, but τῶν is pro- bably right ; because the ad- verb seems to require that ἐπιστήμονα should be taken after γεγονέναι. “Neither the Statesman nor any other artist of those concerned with action can be proved an artist beyond dispute.” Cf. infr. 293 Ὁ: ἀληθῶς ἐπιστήμονας Kat ov δο- κοῦντας μόνον. 14. Πλέον----ἢ ᾿κεῖν]Ὶ There is a further task indicated in Lege. 4,719 6: σοὶ δ᾽ οὐχ οὕτω ῥητέον, ὡς νῦν εἶπες μέτριον εἰπών, ἀλλὰ τί τὸ μέτριον καὶ ὁπόσον ῥητέον. li, ἱ i 84. ἃ IIOAITIKOS. NE, >Q. To ποῖον ; 105 μ- eA 7 - a EE. Ὡς ποτε δεήσει τοῦ viv λεχθέντος πρὸς τὴν 2. Ὥς more δεήσει --- ἔσται ποτέ] It has been thought that this passage is seriously cor- rupt: but when 6 τι (or ὃ) is rendered as a pronoun, and either καὶ introduced before μεῖζον, with six MSS., or re read for τι (or τέ τι, with Hermann), the words as they stand give a better meaning, and one more suited to the context, than any which it has been proposed to substitute. “ That some day there will be need of that which has now been mentioned” (the proof that “more” and “less” are relative to a standard of right measure as well as to each other, supr. b) “for the demonstration of the highest problem of all.” (αὐτὸ τἀκριβές is that absolute prin- ciple which is essential to and identical with perfection of method. Cf. 1 Alc. 130 ἃ: αὐτὸ τὸ αὐτό). “ But (to dwell only on) what is fairly and sufficiently shewn for our pre- sent purpose, this argument, T think, comes grandly to our aid, that we must alike believe in the existence of the arts, and at the same time (ἅμα), in a greater and less being measured, not only in relation to each other, but with a view to the production of the mean. For if the latter is true the former is true (for ἐκεῖνα, cf. Thezet. 207 d, αὐτὰ, and note), and if the former exist, the latter is the case ; and if either is not, neither will ever be.” This explanation is substan- tially the same as Stallbaum’s. It appears from the Philebus that the absolute standard (μέτρον) was closely allied in Plato’s mind with Reason and the Idea of Good. The de- monstration of the “very ex- actness of truth” is probably reserved for the “ Philosophus.” Even in the dialectical dia- logues Plato complains of an imperfect method. For 6 τι almost = 6,=“ a thing which,” cf. Gorg. 508 d: ὁ δὲ δὴ ἐμὸς, ὅστις πολλάκις μὲν ἤδη εἴρηται οὐδὲν δὲ κωλύει καὶ ἔτι λέγε- σθαι οὔ φημι κιτλ. The in- definite relative is used be- cause the antecedent is only determined as the sentence proceeds. “ But as for that which,” &e. And for the clause in apposition, cf. Thezet. 158 Ὁ: ὃ πολλάκις. infr. 293 a. A similar looseness of con- struction occurs in Gorg. 4540: ἀλλ᾽ ἵνα μὴ θαυμάσῃς--- ὅπερ yap λέγω κιτιλ. For the notion of ἀκρίβεια, cf. Rep. 4,435¢-e, 504. Comp. esp. with πρὸς τὰ νῦν, 435 d: ἀξίως. 504 b: τῶν---ἔμπροσθεν ἑπομένας ἀποδείξει. For περὶ αὐτὸ τἀκριβὲς, οἵ. Rep. 7, 525 a: ἡ περὶ τὸ ἕν μάθησις. The Bod- leian has δείκνυται, with most other MSS. The distinction here brought out obviously resembles and may have suggested that drawn by Aristotle in Eth. Nic. 11. between the absolute and re- lative mean. But what is absolute in Aristotle is rela- tive in Plato. Aristotle’s πλέον, ἔλαττον, αὐτὸ τὸ τῶν τε προειρημένων ’ Κατ * p this 15. a harder piece of work than that. We may content ourselves for the pre- sent with the indirect proof, that if more and less are not thus mea- sured with reference to what is meet and proper, no art can ever exist. Hence we may pro- ceed to di- vide the art of mea- surement, making one seg- ment to consist of Io 106 7 EEN > > / δ \ Ν \ ΄σ περὶ αὐτὸ τἀκριβὲς ἀπόδειξιν. O τι δὲ πρὸς τὰ νῦν p. 28 ΠΛΑΤΏΝΟΣ καλῶς καὶ ἱκανῶς δείκνυται,----δοκεῖ μοι βοηθεῖν με- A ΄ ΄ @ « / c yy «. / γαλοπρέπῶς ἡμῖν οὗτος ὁ Aoyos, ὡς apa NHynTEOoV ε , \ , ΄, 5 Ν nel “ ὁμοίως τὰς τέχνας πάσας εἶναι [καὶ] μεῖζον τι ἅμα 3, - \ 5) / > \ 5 καὶ ἔλαττον μετρεῖσθαι μὴ πρὸς ἄλληλα μόνον ἀλλὰ ἈΝ Ἁ a / / \ καὶ πρὸς τὴν τοῦ μετρίου γένεσιν. τούτου TE γὰρ 7 a yf / “ μ ᾿ς, fa) ὄντος ἐκεῖνα ἔστι κἀκείνων οὐσῶν ἐστι καὶ τοῦτο, \ Ne, / / ’ / > al BA μὴ δὲ OVTOS ποτέρου τουτῶν οὐδέτερον αὐτῶν EOTAL / TTOTE. τοῦτο: NE. ΣΩ. Τοῦτο μὲν ὀρθῶς" ἀλλὰ τί δὴ τὸ μετὰ ΞΕ. Δῆλον ὅτι διαιροῖμεν ἂν τὴν μετρητικήν, / 3 / ΄ / 4 A \ καθάπερ ἐρρήθη, ταύτῃ δίχα τέμνοντες, ἕν μὲν τι- ͵ 3 Lal / 7 vA «ες ἢ Ν θέντες αὑτῆς μοριον ξυμπάσας τέχνας, ὁποσαι τον πρᾶγμα are here viewed as πρὸς ἄλληλα μόνον. Aristotle’s πρὸς ἡμᾶς is Plato’s πρὸς τὴν τοῦ μετρίου γένεσιν, where the appeal is to an absolute stand- ard. This difference strikes deeply into the character of each philosophy. Vid. supr. note on 259 b. It should be noticed that Plato does not speak of a mean in the former case, but only of excess and defect, and that Aristotle’s subjective mean is connected with his distinction between virtue and the arts, which must be regarded as a forward step in ethical inquiry. Com- pare Legg. 5, 757 a (where we seem to find the point of tran- sition from the Platonic to the Aristotelian μεσότης) : τοῖς γὰρ ἀνίσοις τὰ ἴσα ἄνισα γίγνοιτ᾽ ἂν, εἰ μὴ τυγχάνοι τοῦ μέτρου. _ 2, βοηθεῖν μεγαλοπρεπῶς] ΟἿ, Theet. 168 c: μεγαλειότερον ἂν τοῖς αὑτοῦ ἐβοήθησεν. 4. ὁμοίως — γένεσιν | Cf. Pheedo 76 6: εἰς καλόν γε κατα- φεύγει ὃ λόγος, εἰς τὸ ὁμοίως εἶναι τήν τε ψυχὴν ἡμῶν πρὶν γενέσθαι ἡμᾶς καὶ τὴν οὐσίαν ἣν δὴ σὺ νῦν λέγεις. A direct proof of the existence of such a standard is still to seek. But it is enough for our purpose that no art can exist without it. μεῖζόν τι ἅμα καὶ €datrov| “ There is a greater and less whose measure is not merely relative.” 1 6: {Uhismisigone kind of “ greater” and “less.” But perhaps καὶ should be re- jected and re read for τι. Cf. Theet. 195 6: λιθωδές τε. MSS. τι. 8. ποτέρου] “ Hither,” “ one or other.” ; 13. ἕν μὲν μόριον----τὸ δ᾽ ἕτερον] According to the reasoning of this passage, the former are clearly subordinate to the latter. MOAITIKO?2. 107 84. ἀριθμὸν καὶ μήκη καὶ βάθη καὶ πλάτη καὶ ταχύτητας SS > , a ‘\ eo « / Ἁ πρὸς τοὐναντίον μετροῦσι, τὸ δὲ ἕτερον, ὁπόσαι πρὸς ‘\ / Ν ἈΝ / Ν XN Ν Ν Ν / TO μέτριον καὶ TO πρέπον καὶ TOY καιρὸν καὶ TO δέον Ν , ΠΕ / 5" s ΄ 3 / las > ΄ καὶ πανθ᾽ ὁπόσα εἰς TO μέσον ἀπῳκίσθη τῶν ἐσχά- TOV. NE. ΣΩ. Καὶ μέγα γ᾽ ἑκάτερον τμῆμα εἶπες, καὶ πολὺ διαφέρον ἀλλήλοιν. pF ἃ \ , 5 7 , , mE. Ὃ yap ἐνίοτε, ὦ Σώκρατες, οἰόμενοι δή τι N ’ ΄ ΄ σοφὸν φραζειν πολλοὶ τῶν κομψῶν λέγουσιν, ὡς a \ Z, XN / ~ > Apa μετρητικὴ περὶ πάντ᾽ ἐστὶ τὰ γιγνόμενα, TOUT SEN Ν a \ Ἃ ’ / \ \ αὐτὸ τὸ νῦν λεχθὲν ov τυγχάνει. μετρήσεως μὲν yap if , fp « / 3, δή Twa τρόπον πάνθ᾽ ὁπόσα evTexva peTeiAnhe διὰ τ. ταχύτητας.] The Bodleian, with AZIIS, has παχύτητας, οἵ. infr. 299 6, where the intro- duction of παχέσιν would be more intelligible than of πα- χύτητας here, but the MS. au- thority is slight. The tran- sition from solid quantity to speed is less obvious and more Platonic and philosophical than that from depth and breadth to thickness: and density (which Stallbaum speaks of) can hardly be in question. See the connexion between solid geometry and astronomy (as φορὰν οὖσαν βάθους) in Rep. 7, 528 foll. See esp. 529 ἃ: τῶν δ᾽ ἀληθινῶν πολὺ ἐνδεῖν, ἃς τὸ dv τάχος καὶ ἡ οὖσα βραδυτὴς ἐν τῷ ἀληθινῷ ἀριθμῷ καὶ πᾶσι τοῖς ἀληθινοῖς σχήμασι φοράς τε πρὸς ἄλληλα φέρεται καὶ τὰ ἐνόντα φέρει. Where the distinction of the two kinds of astronomy is essentially analogous to that suggested here. Also Legg. 7, 820 sqq., 10, 896 d: μήκους σωμάτων καὶ πλάτους Kat βάθους καὶ ῥώμης. 4. ἀπῳκίσθη] “Have removed their abode”—as to a safe dis- tance from evil. The word seems to have been adopted by the Pythagoreans. See Mullach. Pyth. Fr. p. 537: ov μακρὰν οὐδ᾽ ἀπῳκισμένως. (Tic- phantus ap. Stob.) Q. πολλοὶ τῶν κομψῶν] Evi- dently the Pythagoreans, who are spoken of in similar terms in Gorg. 4030: κομψὸς ἀνήρ, ἴσως Σικελός τις ἢ Ἰταλικός. Crat. 405 d: as φασιν of κομψοὶ περὶ μουσικὴν καὶ ἀστρονομίαν, ἁρμονίᾳ τινι πο- λεῖ ἅμα πάντα. II. τὸ νῦν λεχθέν] That there could be no γένεσις without the μέτριον, Which is the first em- bodiment of τὸ μέτρον, ef. Phileb. sub. fin. and 55 e. 12. διὰ δὲ τὸ μὴ----περιβάληται] “ But from never having been habituated to distinguish every subject of inquiry according to real forms, they not only jumble indiscriminately, from a notion that they resemble each other, these widely different things, τ! a οτι TavuTa πάντα, those arts which mea- sure the size and number of objects in relation to each other, and one of those which measure with refer- ence to a mean or standard. This is the truth which underlies the doc- trine that all is measure- ment.” But, for want of the power of distin- guishing kinds, the authors of this doc- trine con- fuse the More and the Too Much, and elsewhere distinguish inoppor- tunely. Whereas one ought [9 not to rest short of any real dis- tinction, or 108 ITAATOQNOS ταῦτά τε τοσοῦτον διαφέροντα ξυμβάλλουσιν εὐθὺς Ε] > Χ “ > / 3 ’ εἰς TAVTOV OMOLA νομίσαντες, καὶ τοὐναντίον αὖ τού- a ° , \ - / Tov δρῶσιν, ἕτερα ov κατὰ μέρη διαιροῦντες, δέον, “ \ Ν ΄ a / ” SoTay μὲν THY τῶν πολλῶν τις πρότερον αἰσθηται / \ / Ν Ἂ » » “κ᾿ \ κοινωνίαν, μὴ προαφίστασθαι πρὶν ἂν ἐν αὐτῇ Tas ὃ Ν 10 / « ,ὔ > 16 “ Ν ιαφορᾶς l ἢ σπασαᾶς, οποσαίπερ εν εἰθεσι κεινται, TAS \ 5 \ ᾽ / “ ᾽ , δὲ αὖ παντοδαπὰς ἀνομοιότητας, ὅταν ev πλήθεσιν ὀφθῶσι, μὴ δυνατὸν εἶναι δυσωπούμενον παύεσθαι, Ἂ ΄ Ν vad > ‘ a ε / πρὶν ἂν ξύμπαντα τὰ οἰκεῖα ἐντὸς μιᾶς ὁμοιότητος Y / Χ > / ΄ “ \ ἔρξας γένους τινὸς οὐσίᾳ περιβάληται. ταῦτα μεν 5 « a U , Ν Ν “ 3 / οὖν ἱκανῶς περι TE τούτων καὶ περὶ τῶν ἐλλείψεων but fall into the converse error of distinguishing other things not according to their real di- visions: whereas the right way is, when one has first perceived a common nature running through a great variety of things, not to desist till one has seen all the differences which subsist within that na- ture, and which constitute dis- tinct kinds, and on the other hand, not to be able to look contentedly upon the endless diversity which has been seen in a multitude of objects, until one has brought all kindred objects within the pale of a single resemblance, and invest- ed them with the real nature of a single kind.” I. τὸ μὴ κατ᾽ εἴδη] Cf. Rep. 5, 454 a, Pheedr. 265 6. 5. ὅταν τις τῶν κοινωνίαν ͵ἢὴἠ This “ divinatio” seems always to be assumed as the first step in a dialectical inquiry. Cf. Phileb. 16 ἃ: μίαν 5» , A x c ’ la ἰδέαν περὶ παντὸς ἑκάστοτε θεμέ- πολλῶν ---- κ ΄ 7 vous ζητεῖν" εὑρήσειν γὰρ ἔνουσαν. 7. ὁπόσαιπερΊ,͵Ἡ This is the same thing which is expressed in the Philebus (16 d, e) in the words μέχριπερ ἂν τὸ κατ᾽ ἀρχὰς ἕν μὴ ὅτι ἕν καὶ πολλὰ καὶ ἄπειρά ἐστι μόνον ton τις, ἀλλὰ καὶ ὁπόσα. ἐν εἴδεσι κεῖνται) Cf. Rep. 8, 544 ἃ: ἥτις καὶ ἐν εἴδει δια- φανεῖ τινι κεῖται. 8. ἐν πλήθεσιν] “ Numbers,” or “multitudes,” he cannot say classes because they are not yet classified. Cf. Theet.157 ¢: ᾧ δὴ ἀθροίσματι ἄνθρωπόν τε τί- θενται καὶ λίθον x.7.r., and the ὄγκοι of the Parmenides, 164, 5. This process corresponds to that described in Phileb.18 a—d. 9. δυσωπούμενον] “ Looking upon with discomfort or dis- like.” Cf. infr. 291 b, e. 11. γένους τινὸς οὐσίᾳ] “ With the reality (dasein) of a genus.” οὐσία is used in nearly the same sense as supra 284 bis. Ξ- τῷ γένος τι εἰναι. The latter half of this de- scription (from τὰς δὲ αὖ) is the opposite of the second error mentioned above. \ \ \ > 5, / ~ : δὲ τὸ μὴ κατ᾽ εἴδη συνειθίσθαι σκοπεῖν διαιρουμένους p. 28 β ‘| ΠΟΛΙΓΙΚΟΣ. 109 ] i ᾿ “ 85. καὶ ὑπερβολῶν εἰρήσθω: φυλάττωμεν δὲ μόνον ὅτι ’ὔ » > na na α Ovo γένη περὶ αὐτὰ ἐξεύρηται τῆς μετρητικῆς Kal ad φαμεν αὖτ᾽ εἶναι μεμνώμεθα. NE. ΣΏΩ. Μεμνησόμεθα. Ν al \ ἈΝ " ΞΕ). Μετὰ τοῦτον δὴ τὸν λόγον ἕτερον προσδε- /, ἐν > ΄σ a , Ν Ν ΄ ξώμεθα πέρι αὐτῶν Τε Τῶν ζητουμένων και πέρι TT a— “ » - lol / a ons τῆς ἐν τοῖς τοιοῖσδε λόγοις διατριβῆς. NE. ΣΏΩ. Τὸ ποῖον ; _E E7 τ eon Ν Ν ΄, myth. He τις ἀνέροιτο ἡμᾶς τὴν πέρι γραμματὰα ,ὔ a , « , « aA συνουσιὰν TOY μανθανοντων, OTTOTOVY TLS Οοτιουν y+ > a 77 3 Ν i) 7] > an ὄνομα ἐρωτηθῇ τίνων ἐστὶ γραμμάτων, πότερον αὐτῷ 7 a / δὰ [4 CAEN oS a τότε φώμεν γίγνεσθαι τὴν ζήτησιν ἑνὸς ἕνεκα μᾶλλον a 7 3 fod 7, Ν , τοῦ προβληθέντος ἢ τοῦ περὶ πάντα τὰ προβαλλό- μενα γραμματικωτέρῳ γίγνεσθαι ; NE. ΣΏ. Δῆλον ὅτι τοῦ περὶ ἅπαντα. BE. Τί δ᾽ αὖ νῦν ἡμῖν ἡ περὶ τοῦ πολιτικοῦ / “ἶἤ » a / 7 lal Cytnow ; €vexa αὐτοῦ τούτου προβέβληται μᾶλ- 1. φυλάττωμεν] Let us fix this in our minds. Cf. infr. 207 ἃ: μέχριπερ ἂν ἕν μέγα φυ- λάττωσιν κοτιλ. 9. Et τις--ογίγνεσθαι :] “Were one to ask us of the intercourse of students in grammar (with their teacher), when one of them is asked to spell a word, whether shall we say that the inquiry in which he then en- gages is for the sake of the single problem thus set before him, or for the sake of be- coming more expert in all orthographical problems ?” The question which is the object of ἀνέροιτο is to be sought in πότερον φῶμεν k.t.d., which is the apodosis of the sentence: just as when part of a relative clause becomes absorbed in the antecedent. “ If we were asked of the in- tercourse of learners with their teachers about their letters, when one of them is asked of what letters any noun is com- posed, whether shall we say that his study at such a time is for the sake of the parti- cular question, or for the sake of his becoming more expert in such subjects generally ?” Compare the structure of Soph. 237 b: εἰ σπουδῆ δέοι x.7.X. 10. συνουσίαν is used in some- thing of a technical sense. 16. Ti δ᾽ αὖ] For the punce- tuation, ef. Phedr. 234 d: ri σοι φαίνεται----ὁ λόγος ; οὐχ ὑπερ- φυῶς --- εἰρῆσθαι ; 5 10 15 omit any real gene- ralization. One more observation by the way. Gramma- tical ques- tions have an end be- yond them- selves, that of making eramma- rians. So the present inquiry has an end be- yond itself, that of making us better dia- lecticians, Still less is such an art as weaving to be fol- lowed for its own sake. But (though few are aware of this) the highest things have no sensible mean through which they can be ex- plained, but areshadow- ed forth by 110 MAATOQNOZ δ ΄ , ᾿ / / Aov ἢ τοῦ περὶ πάντα διαλεκτικωτέροις γίγνε- P- σθαι ; NE. ΣΏΩ. Καὶ τοῦτο δῆλον ὅτι τοῦ περὶ πάντα. ΞΕ. Ἦ που τὸν τῆς ὑφαντικῆς γε λόγον αὐτῆς / a / > Ν Ὁ ᾽ / ΄σ yy sTavTns ἕνεκα θηρεύειν οὐδεὶς av eOeAnoee νοῦν ἔχων. > ᾽ δὶ \ 7 7 “ la \ “ ard, οἰμαι, τοὺς πλείστους λέληθεν OTL τοῖς μεν τῶν Ε « , ἘΠ ΡΞ / f / ὄντων ῥᾳδίως καταμαθεῖν Ἑαἰσθηταί ἢ τινες ὁμοιότητες , aA >a\ Ων A cd > lad πεφύκασιν, as οὐδὲν χαλέπον δηλοῦν, ὅταν αὑτῶν τις βουληθῇ τῷ λό ἰτοῦ ' ἡ μετὰ πρα- ουλησῃ τῷ λογον αἰτουντι πέρι TOV μὴ μετὰ TPA τογμάτων ἀλλὰ χωρὶς λόγου ῥᾳδίως ἐνδείξασθαι" τοῖς > 3 / 3 Ν ΄ > y 2) δ᾽ αὖ μέγιστοις οὔὐσι και τιμιωτατοιῖς οὐκ ἐστιν εἴδω- > \ \ \ 5 > ᾽ lal λον οὐδὲν πρὸς τοὺς ἀνθρώπους εἰργασμένον ἐναργῶς, οὗ δειχθέντος τὴν τοῦ πυνθανομένου ψυχὴν ὃ βουλό- > ΄ Ν lon > , / μενος ἀποπληρῶσαι, πρὸς τῶν αἰσθησεῶν τινα προσ- 4. Ἦ mov] This is not really inconsistent with Soph. 227 a: τῇ τῶν λόγων μεθόδῳ σπογγιστι- κῆς ἢ φαρμακοποσίας οὐδὲν ἧττον οὐδέ τι μᾶλλον τυγχάνει μέλον. In both cases it is the method alone which gives importance to the particular subject. 6. ἀλλ᾽, οἶμαι, ---- λεγόμενα | “ But I think that it has es- caped most men, that, while some things are endued with resemblances which are sensi- ble, and therefore easily known, which there is no difficulty in shewing, when one wishes to point out any of them (re un- derstood from περί τοῦ) to any one who asks about it, with no trouble, but easily, without argument, — there are also things, and those the greatest, and of priceless worth, which have no image wrought so as to strike human perceptions, by pointing to which he who would content the mind of an inquirer, shall fully satisfy him by imprinting this on some one of his _ senses. Wherefore one ought to study to be able to give and receive a rational account of every- thing, for things bodiless, which are the fairest and the greatest things, for the sake of which all that is now said is spoken, are made clearly manifest by reason alone.” Cf. supr. 277 ¢. 7. MSS. αἰσθητικαὶ. 10. ῥᾳδίως καταμαθεῖν] Per- haps padios should be read, with Hermann and Badham. Badham further conjectures ais οὐδὲν χαλεπὸν 6 TL ἂν αὐτῶν τις βουληθῇ τῷ Δ. α.---ἐνδείξασθαι. But the whole sentence is la- boured and pleonastic, so that there is little cause for omit- ting an inconvenient word. .....................ὕ0.....-..ὕ....ὕὅὄὕᾧ Ῥ. 28 ΠΟΛΙΤΙΚΟΣ. 11] 86. αρμόττων, ἱκανῶς πληρώσει. διὸ δεῖ μελετᾷν λόγον Cle \ 3 A \ 7 A \ ἑκάστου δυνατὸν εἶναι δοῦναι καὶ. δέξασθαι: τὰ yap > ’ὔ / ΒΥ Ν / / / ἀσώματα, κάλλιστα OVTA καὶ μέγιστα, Aoy@ μονον, 37 A > \ “ /, \ oa ἄλλῳ δὲ οὐδενὶ σαφῶς δείκνυται, τούτων δὲ ἕνεκα ’ὔ’ > > Ν A a / Cus eo) lad > ΄ TaVT ἐστὶ τὰ νῦν λεγομενα. ρᾷων δ᾽ ἐν τοῖς €AaT- « / Ἂς ͵ lal Ὁ Ν \ Tool ἢ μελέτη παντὸς πέρι μᾶλλον ἢ περὶ TA / μείζω. 4 5 53 NE. ΣΩ. Καλλιστ᾽ εἶπες. - 7 ͵ > « a Ass HE. Ὧν τοίνυν χάριν ἅπανθ᾽ ἡμῖν ταῦτ᾽ ἐρρήθη ‘ / a περὶ τούτων, μνησθῶμεν. NE. ΣΩ. Τώων ; ἘΠῚ T , - > v4 OLS oS fad i. Lavrns τε οὐχ ἥκιστα αὑτῆς EVEKA TIS δυσχερείας, ἣν Ἱπερὶ τὴν μακρολογίαν τὴν περὶ τὴν ὑφαντικὴν ἀπεδεξάμεθα δυσχερῶς, καὶ τὴν περὶ 5. ῥάων--μᾶλλον ἢ] Cf. Pro- tag. 317 6 : καὶ εὐλάβειαν ταύτην οἶμαι βελτίω ἐκείνης εἶναι, τὸ ὁμο- λογεῖν μᾶλλον ἢ ἔξαρνον εἶναι. 12. Ταύτης τε---λέγοιμεν] The construction is obscured by the attraction of the latter part of the sentence into the relative clause. Strict syntax would require ταύτης te—xal τῆς (δυσχερείας) περὶ τὴν (μακρο- λογίαν) περὶ τὴν τοῦ παντὸς K.T.X.: instead of which the latter clause, with what follows, is made to depend on ἀπεδεξάμεθα δυσχερῶς, with which the re- mainder of the sentence, ἐννοοῦν- τες- καὶ- -ἐπεπλήξαμεν k.T.A., 15 also connected. 3. ἣν Ὑ περὶ ἡ τὴν μακρολο- γίαν] Hermann suggests ἥνπερ. Wagner, Rheinische Museum, vol. xii. (1857) p. 309, prefers ἧπερ. This avoids the collo- cation of the two accusatives, which is the objection to ἥνπερ. But ἣν is unobjectionable. ΟἿ, Soph. 264 b: τὴν προσδοκίαν ἣν ἐφοβήθημεν, and note. Gore. 509 6: ταύτην εἶναι τὴν αἱσ- χίστην βοήθειαν μὴ δύνασθαι βυ- Also Legg. 2, 666 Ὁ: τὴν ----παιδιὰν, ἣν τοῖς ἀνθρώποις ἐπίκουρον τῆς τοῦ γήρως αὐστηρό- τῆτος ἐδωρήσατο τὸν οἶνον φάρ- μακον. And περὶ also may be defended if we suppose ἀπε- δεξάμεθα δυσχερῶς (SC. τὴν μακ- ρολογίαν) to be substituted for ἐδυσχεράναμεν. Such a change in the form of a sentence will not astonish the attentive stu- dent of these dialogues. Plato here seems determined to “ bestow all his tediousness” on his critics, whoever they were. μακρολογίαν͵͵ “ Lengthiness in argument,” not in speech, as in Gorg. 461 d, alib. 14. ἀπεδεξάμεθα δυσχερῶς (se. τὴν μακρολογίαν) is unexpectedly ηθεῖν. σι analogies which can only be ex- pressed in argument. Let us recal the Io motive of this digres- sion. It was chiefly to calm the disquiet which we felt at the length to which our remarks on weaving,as well as the mythwhich preceded, and the discussion on the na- ture of the Sophist,had been spun: by shewing that length was not lengthiness unless ex- ceeding what is meet. 112 \ a Ν > Ἀ ΄ ΄ τὴν τοῦ παντὸς ἀνείλιξιν καὶ τὴν τοῦ σοφιστοῦ Ρ. 8}. ΠΛΑΤΏΝΟΣ / “ a \ JA > > a [2 37 πέρι τῆς τοῦ μὴ ὄντος οὐσίας, ἐννοοῦντες ὡς ἔσχε oe / a Pa Jes , \ a > , μῆκος πλέον, Kal ἐπὶ τούτοις On πᾶσιν ἐπεπλήξαμεν Caw ΕἸ a a ‘ ἡμῖν αὐτοῖς, δείσαντες μὴ περίεργα ἅμα καὶ μακρὰ / σὰ 9 5 » a \ / a 5 λέγοιμεν. iv οὖν εἰσαῦθις μηδὲν πασχωμεν τοιου-- / ov / \ / lal > lal TOV, τούτων ἕνεκα πάντων τὰ πρόσθεν νῷν εἰρῆσθαι φάθι. NE. >Q. Ταῦτ᾽ ἐσται. λέγε ἑξῆς μόνον. EE. Λέγω τοίνυν ὅτι χρὴ δὴ μεμνημένους ἐμὲ καὶ A ΄ ΄- ’ὔ / / e , 100€ τῶν νῦν εἰρημένων TOV TE Ψόγον ἑκάστοτε καὶ yy ω , ad “4 - a» ἔπαινον ποιεῖσθαι βραχυτητος apa καὶ μήκους ὧν ἂν ἀεὶ πέρι λέγωμεν, μὴ πρὸς ἄλληλα τὰ μήκη κρί- ΕἸ \ a “ / a / νοντες, ἀλλὰ κατὰ TO τῆς μετρητικὴς μέρος, O TOTE By ΕΞ a ἈΝ \ 7 ἐφαμεν δεῖν μεμνῆσθαι, πρὸς τὸ πρέπον. ΝΕ. 50. Ὀρθῶς. ἘΠῚ O ᾽ / ἡδὲ Ν a ψ + ΝΥ ey th. U TOLVVY OVOE TPOS ΤΟῦΤΟ TTAVTA. οὔτέ γὰρ substituted for ἐδυσχεράναμεν : hence the introduction οἵ περί. I. ἀνείλιξιν |] Supr. 269 6. τὴν (SC. μακρολογίαν). τοῦ σοφιστοῦ πέρι] It is better to take πέρι thus with τοῦ σοφιστοῦ, in which case it can easily be resumed with the explanatory words τῆς τοῦ μὴ ὄντος οὐσίας. Otherwise the preceding dialogue would be referred to as ὁ σοφιστής, a form of reference which has no parallel in Plato. Cf. supr. 284 Ὁ: ἐν τῷ σοφιστῇ, and note. 6. τούτων --- πάντων͵] “‘ The above-mentioned and all simi- lar arguments.”’ 13. τότε] Supr. 284, 255. 14. μεμνῆσθαι) One is at first sight inclined to read perpei- σθαι, after the conjecture of Schleiermacher, and to sup- pose that an error has grown out of μνησθῶμεν, μεμνημένους above. But the text is seen to be perfectly sound when a comma is placed after μεμνῆ- σθαι, and πρὸς τὸ πρέπον is thus joined with τὰ μήκη κρίνοντες. The opening of the next speech favours this view. And in support of μεμνῆσθαι, ef. supr. 284 6: ὑποτίθεσθαι ὥς ποτε δε- ήσει τοῦ νῦν λεχθέντος. 285 Ὁ: φυλάττωμεν .---ὅτε δύο γένη τῆς μετρητικῆς ----καὶ ἅ φαμεν αὐτὰς εἶναι μεμνώμεθα. Ν. Σ. μεμνησό- μεθα. 16. Οὐ τοίνυν οὐδὲ πρὸς τοῦτο πάντα] “Νού, however, even with a view to this in all things. The standard by which arguments are to be measured ΠΟΛΙΤΙΚΟΣ. 118 86. πρὸς τὴν ἡδονὴν μήκους ἁρμόττοντος οὐδὲν προσδεη- ΄ \ > " ΄, , , 5 \ σομεθα, πλὴν εἰ μὴ πάρεργον TL TO TE αὖ πρὸς δ a / / e » en Ν τὴν τοῦ προβληθέντος CTTW, WS ἂν ρᾷστα Kat ΄ὔ “ 7 > ᾽ » lal « Ἧ τάχιστα εὕροιμεν, δεύτερον ἀλλ᾽ οὐ πρῶτον ὁ λόγος ’ lal / \ \ / Ν a ἀγαπᾷν παραγγέλλει, πολὺ δὲ μάλιστα καὶ πρῶτον 5 \ ΄, TUE a = > » \ 5 τὴν μέθοδον αὐτὴν τιμᾷν τοῦ κατ᾽ εἰδὴ δυνατὸν εἶναι διαιρεῖν, καὶ δὴ καὶ λόγον, ἄν τε παμμήκης λεχθεὶς is that which is becoming or suitable, not with a view to pleasure, or persuasion, or gracefulness, but to the awakening of reason and the furtherance of truth.” Cf. Lege. 2, 655 ὁ: λέγουσί ye οἱ πλεῖστοι μουσικῆς ὀρθότητα εἶναι τὴν ἡδονὴν ταῖς ψυχαῖς πορίζουσαν δύναμιν" ἀλλὰ τοῦτο μὲν οὔτε ἀν- εκτὸν οὔτε ὅσιον τὸ παράπαν φθέγ- γεσθαι. We might be disposed to conjecture πάντῃ, but πάντα is used elsewhere adverbially. Soph. 233 a: ὡς εἰσὶ πάντα πάν- τῶν αὐτοὶ σοφώτατοι. (16.) οὔτε γὰρ---λόγων] “ For first we shall have no need of a length that is suitable for pleasure, unless merely by the way: and our argument further enjoins that we esteem only as of secondary import- ance that which helps investi- gation and facilitates and hastens discovery, but that we should prize by far most highly, and in the first place, the method itself and the power of dividing according to the real species, and feel an interest in that discourse which makes the hearer more inventive, whether it be brief or interminable alike: more- over, that the man who blames lengthiness (ἀδολεσχίαν) in this * kind of intercourse, and is in- tolerant of circuitous digres- sions, ought not so quickly and all at once to have done when he has blamed the dis- course as long, but should con- sider that it is his duty to shew further that a shorter one would have made those conversing better reasoners, and would have improyed their power of finding a mode of declaring realities by speech: all other blames and praises, made with reference to any other stand- ard, our argument bids us dis- regard and to seem deaf to any such remarks.” I. μήκους ἁρμόττοντος] Cf. Phileb. 36 d: χαίρειν δεῖ λέγειν τοῖς ἄλλους μήκεσιν ἢ καὶ ὁτῳοῦν τῶν παρὰ τὸ προσῆκον λεγομένων. Ib. 28d. Rep. 5; 450}, Legg. 1, 640 a, Ὁ 2. πλὴν εἰ μὴ See Lobeck ad Phrynich. p. 459, who ad- duces Ar. de An. I. 3: πλὴν εἰ μὴ κατὰ συμβεβηκός. The greater frequency of the expression in later Greek throws some doubt on the few instances of it in Attie Greek which, like the pre- sent, have full MS. authority. τό τε] Se. μῆκος ἅρμοττον. 6. τὴν μέθοδον ---τοῦ----δυνατὸν εἶναι] Cf. Ale. 115 b: κατὰ τὴν ἐπιχείρησιν τοῦ σῶσαι ods ἔδει, Q And yet not “meet” for plea- sure, nor even for discovery, but for the end of de- veloping the dialec- tical me- thod and of making men inven- tive rea- soners, To return, and apply our ex- ample. Kingeraft has been distin- guished from other arts of tend- ing ani- mals in herds. But there remain those arts, both opera- tive and assistant, which are found within the state. 114 Ν » / ε / > / TOV GQKOVOQAVTA E€UPETLKWMTEPOV ἀπεργάζηται, ΠΛΑΤΩΝΟΣ ὃ (Ce ὶ τῷ μή δὲν ἀγανακτεῖν. ἄν τ᾽ αὖ σπουδάζειν καὶ τῷ μήκει μηδὲν ἄγ . 37 / « βραχύτερος, ὡσαύτως" ἔτι 3 Ν / Ν δ᾽ αὖ πρὸς τούτοις τὸν Ν Ν / / / / περὶ Tas τοιάσδε συνουσίας ψέγοντα λόγων μηκη \ / / > > / σ skal τὰς ἐν κύκλῳ περιόδους οὐκ ἀποδεχόμενον, OTL \ Ν ΄ \ , \ δ᾽ Ov ὕτω χρὴ TOV TOLOVTOV μὴ πάνυ τάαάχυ PHO EVUUS OV « \ \ / 3 μεθιέναι ψέξαντα μόνον ὡς μακρὰ τὰ λεχθέντα, ἀλλὰ > rn / > καὶ προσαποφαίνειν οἴεσθαι δεῖν ws βραχύτερα av / \ / ΄ / VYEVOMEVA TOVS DVVOVTAS ἀπειργάζετο διαλεκτικωτε- ω “ 57 / vA ε / 10 pous καὶ τῆς τῶν ὄντων λογῳ δηλώσεως εὑρετικωτε- lal \ 32) Ν 5, 357 / Ν ρους, τῶν δὲ ἄλλων καὶ πρὸς GAN ἀττα ψόγων καὶ \ / \ Ν ΄ > , ἐπαίνων μηδὲν φροντίζειν μηδὲ TO παράπαν ἀκούειν ΄ a / / δοκεῖν τῶν τοιούτων λόγων. ἊΝ / \ vA Kat τούτων pev aris, / lal N \ \ Χ Ἂ εἰ καὶ σοὶ ταύτῃ ξυνδοκεῖ: πρὸς δὲ δὴ τὸν πολιτικὸν ροντες τὸ παράδειγμα. 3, ᾽ὔ a ς ΄σ > lal 7 15 ἴωμεν πάλιν, τῆς προρρηθείσης ὑφαντικῆς αὐτῷ φέ- a 3 > aA NE. ΣΏ. Καλῶς εἶπες, καὶ ποιῶμεν ἃ λέγεις. an / 5 a « x σ EE. Οὐκοῦν ἀπὸ γε τῶν πολλῶν ὁ βασιλεὺς ὅσαι I. τοῦτον σπουδάζειν] This construction appears in Gorg. 500 6: ov τί ἂν μᾶλλον σπουδά- σειέ τις, aS well as in Soph. 251 0, 259 c. Compare Legg. 7,792 6: ὁ μὲν yap ἐμὸς δὴ λόγος οὔθ᾽ ἡδονάς φησι δεῖν διώκειν τὸν ὀρθὸν βίον οὔτ᾽ αὖ τὸ παράπαν φεύγειν τὰς λύπας, ἀλλ᾽ αὐτὸ ἀσπάζεσθαι τὸ μέσον, ὃ νῦν δὴ προσεῖπον ὡς ἵλεων ὀνομάσας. 2. ἄν τ᾿ αὖ βραχύτερος] Se. Aex Geis. 5. τὸν----ψέγοντα] We seem to detect in these words an apolo- getic tone. Comp. Gorg. 453 b. 5. ὅτι χρὴ τὸν τοιοῦτον] These words depend immediately on ὁ λόγος παραγγέλλει. 6. πάνυ ταχὺ] Bodl. πανταχυ. 7. μεθιέναι] Cf. Phileb. τό 6: εἰς τὸ ἄπειρον μεθέντα χαίρειν ἐᾷν. 10. τῆς---δηλώσεως}] This is probably a genitive of respect. λόγῳ depends on the verbal meaning in δηλώσεως. 12. φροντίζειν again depends on παραγγέλλει. 15. αὐτῷ φέροντες τὸ παρά- δειγμα] “Applying to him ( = ἐπιφέροντες) our example.” Cf. supr. 278 e. The dative is probably dativus commodi, “Bringing for his benefit.” Hence there is perhaps a touch of liveliness in the omission of the preposition. 18. Οὐκοῦν ἀπὸ ye TOV πολλῶν] Supr. 276 a. ὅσαι ξύννομοι] Se. τέχναι. Se ee τοῦτον p. 2k ΠΟΛΙΤΙΚΟΣ. 115 287. ξύννομοι, μᾶλλον δὲ ἀπὸ πασῶν τῶν περὶ τὰς ἀγέλας διακεχώρισται. λοιπαὶ δέ, φαμέν, αἱ κατὰ πόλιν αὐ- τὴν τῶν τε ξυναιτίων καὶ τῶν αἰτίων, ἃς πρώτας ἀπ᾽ ἀλλήλων διαιρετέον. NE. ΣΩ. ᾿Ορθῶς. 5 EE. Otc οὖν ὅτι χαλεπὸν αὐτὰς τεμεῖν δίχα ; ΝΣ > / 3 “A » @ ΕΣ τὸ δ᾽ αἴτιον, ὡς οἶμαι, προϊοῦσιν οὐχ ἧττον εἐσται καταφανές. NE. ΣΏ. Οὐκοῦν χρὴ δρᾷν οὕτως. \ , 4 ῪἷΝ Φ ε a 7 HE. Κατὰ μέλη τοίνυν αὐτὰς οἷον ἱερεῖον διαιρώ- 10 These, for μεθα, ἐπειδὴ δίχα ἀδυνατοῦμεν. δεῖ γὰρ εἰς τὸν ἐγγύ- “ , ( > x τι TATA ὃ τι μάλιστα τέμνειν ἀριθμον ἀεί. NE. ΣΏΩ. Πῶς οὖν ποιῶμεν τὰ νῦν ; aD "CO yy 4) ε / / 57 bey Le σπέερ EMTPOOVEV, OTTO AL TAPELXOVTO ορ- Ν \ « / / ,ὔ / 4 ἢ γανα περὶ τὴν ὑφαντικὴν, πάσας δήπου τότε ἐτίθεμεν ς ἢ ως συναιτιους. NE. >Q. Nai. ~ \ Χ \ “-“ yA \ ἴω ΞΕ. Καὶ νῦν δὴ ταὐτὸν μὲν τοῦτο, ἔτι δὲ μᾶλλον “That occupy part of the same field :” with a slight etymolo- gical allusion to νομευτική. The comparison of infr. 289 b shews, however, that the word is not to be taken actively or accented ξυννόμοι. 7. τὸ δ᾽ αἴτιον---καταφανὲς | I. 6. The enumeration itself (αὐτὴ ἡ διέξοδος) will shew that the analysis cannot be carried further. 9. δρᾷν οὕτως] προϊέναι. 10. οἷον ἱερεῖον] Cf. Pheedr. 265 €: καὶ μὴ ἐπιχειρεῖν κατα- γνύναι μέρος μηδὲν κακοῦ μαγείρου τρόπῳ χρώμενον. The same image occurs in Emped. Fr. 1. 86: γνῶθι διατμηθέντος eve σπλάγ- χνοισι λόγοιο, with a further allusion to divination. ΤΙ. det yap] Cf. once more Phileb. τό d: δύο, εἴπως εἰσί, σκοπεῖν, εἰ δὲ μὴ, τρεῖς ἤ τιν᾽ ἄλλον ἀριθμόν. 15. δήπου] Bod. δέ που. 18. ταὐτὸν μὲν τοῦτο, ἔτι δὲ μᾶλλον] For the slight inex- actness of μὲν and δὲ, ef. Thezt. 150 b: τὸ μὲν τῶν μαιῶν τοσοῦ- τον, ἔλαττον δὲ τοῦ ἐμοῦ δράματος. ἔτι δὲ μᾶλλον] Because they are no less indispensable, and are still less to be confounded with the art itself. Cf Rep. 2, 370 ὁ: 6 yap γεωργός, ὡς ἔοικεν, οὐκ αὐτὸς ποιήσεται ἑαυτῷ τὸ ἄροτρον K.T.X. ΕἼ Q 2 reasons which will appear as we proceed, do not ad- mit of di- chotomy, but must be carved, 15 like a sacri- fice, in several joints. There are, first, in- struments ; 110 ΠΛΑΤΏΝΟΣ ἢ τόθ᾽ ἡμῖν ποιητέον. ὅσαι γὰρ σμικρὸν ἢ μέγα τι Pp. 28 "7: n \ / A , ΄ / δημιουργοῦσι κατὰ πολιν ὄργανον. θετέον ἁπάσας μ ἢ , ε " / oy \ ΄, > TAVUTAS WS OVOAS συναιτιους. ανεὺ yap TOUT@MVY Οὐκ " / / > Or , , ’ 3 ἂν ποτε γένοιτο πόλις οὐδὲ πολιτικὴ, τούτων δ᾽ αὖ 5 βασιλικῆς ἔργον τέχνης οὐδέν που θήσομεν. NE. 2Q. Οὐ yap. EE. Kat μὲν δὴ χαλεπὸν ἐπιχειροῦμεν δρᾷν 3 / a > ‘ a iy Ν ie ἃ ἀποχωρίζοντες τοῦτο ἀπὸ τῶν ἄλλων τὸ γένος “4 \ 3 > yy ὃ TL yap οὖν TOY ὀντων y id S e / *eorw ὡς Ἐ evos γέ 7 , “- / U Secondly, τοτίνος ὄργανον εἰποντα δοκεῖν εἰρηκέναι TL πιθανον. “ Δ ὦ 3 ω » / , 3, ομως δὲ ετέρον αὖ TOV εν πόλει Κτήηματων εἰπῶμεν τόδε. NE. ΣΩ. Τὸ ποῖον : ἘΠῚ ‘O » y / \ δύ yy > Hu, ἃς οὐκ ἐστι ταυτὴν THY ουναμιν EXOV. OV 4. τούτων δ᾽ αὖ — θήσομεν] “Nor, again, shall we rank any one of these things as a function of the regal art.” 9. 6 τι yap οὖν --- πιθανόν | The words as they stand in the MSS. (ὡς ἔστιν ἑνός γέ τι- νος ὄργανον) give no construc- tion to δοκεῖν. Stephanus read ἔστι for ὅ,τι, which can- not be spared. Ast supplied det; Stallbaum, ἀνάγκη; Her- mann omits os; Wagner, in Rheinsch. Mus. vol. xii. (1857) p- 307, reads δοκεῖ. The com- parison of Legg. 4, 709 b—ro δ᾽ ἔστι περί τε ναυτιλίαν καὶ κυβερ- νητικὴν καὶ ἰατρικὴν καὶ στρατη- γικὴν πάντα ταῦτ᾽ εἰπόντα δοκεῖν εὖ λέγειν. ἀλλὰ γὰρ ὁμοίως καὶ τόδε ἔστι λέγοντα εὖ λέγειν-- leaves no doubt that Hermann’s (which is nearly that of Ste- phanus) is the right method. But os is to be retained by being placed after ἔστιν. Cf. Legg. 6, 768 c: ἃ δὴ φαμὲν ov’ ὡς ἀρχὰς οὔθ᾽ ὡς μὴ ῥάδιον εἰ- πόντα ἀναμφισβητήτως εἰρηκέναι. Crat. 404 b: Δημητὴρ φαίνεται —os μητὴρ κεκλῆσθαι, and supr. ἐτίθεμεν ὡς συναιτίους, infr. 289 6, 201 ἃ, supr. 281 a, b, Pheedo 99 Ὁ. For the position of ἔστι, cf. Legg. 6, 769 ὁ: οἷός τε εἰς TO πρόσθεν ἔσται φαιδρύνων ποι- εἶν ἐπιδιδόναι. Bodl. MS. ὡς ἐστι without accent. 11. εἴπωμεν τόδε] “ Let us say what follows regarding another of the possessions that are in a city.” “Say what?” “That it has not this power” (i. 6. is not πολιτικήῆ. Cf. infr.: καὶ τῇ ζητου- μένῃ γε προσῆκον οὐδὲν ἀτεχνῶς ἐπιστήμῃ). “ For it is not com- pacted with a view to being employed in production, as was the case with the genus imstru- ment, but for the preservation or retention of what has been made,” d a, Mente ΠΟΛΙΓΙΚΟΣ. 117 87 ‘ AY / Ses, / ba y - Yap ἐπι YEVETEWS αἰτιᾷ πήγνυται, καῦύαπερ οργᾶνον, ἀλλ᾽ ἕνεκα τοῦ δημιουργηθέντος σωτηρίας. NE. SQ. Τὸ ποῖον ; HE. Τοῦτο ὃ δὴ ξηροῖς καὶ ὑγροῖς [καὶ ἐμπύροις NS 3 / Ἂν 9 > / 5 4 kai ἀπύροις)] παντοδαπὸν εἰδος ἐργασθέν, ἀγγεῖον 5 +O Ont μιᾷ κλήσει προσφθεγγόμεθα, καὶ μάλα γε N 5 “ἧς ΄ ec ©} συχνὸν εἰδος Kal TH ζητουμένῃ γε, ὡς οἰμαι, προσ- “Ὁ Ia\ a / NkKov οὐδὲν ἀτεχνῶς ἐπιστήμῃ. NE. ΣΩ. Πῶς γὰρ οὔ; 6 5 ΄ὕ SE. Τούτων δὴ τρίτον ἕτερον εἶδος κτημάτων [4 / \ Ν y Ν πάμπολυ κατοπτέον πεζὸν καὶ ἐνυδρον καὶ πολυ- I. ἐπὶ γενέσεως αἰτίᾳ] “Ῥτο- ductionis causa.” ἐπὶ as in ἐπὶ τέχνῃ μανθάνει. in ὧν δὴ σὺ πέρι αἰτίαν ἔχεις δια- φέρειν. 1. 6. With the view of having production referred to them. 4. Τοῦτο ---- προσφθεγγόμεθα] This place also appears easily re- mediable by rejecting the second ὃ δή, which is either a gloss or a clerical error. Stallb. is wrong in saying that two arts must be developed here. (How would he distinguish ἐργαλεῖον from ὄργανον ?) The ὄργανον has been already distinguished, though with difficulty, as a separate kind, being lightly passed over because already spoken of under ὑφαντική, and that here named (ἀγγεῖον) has been previously spoken of as ἕτερον, “a second.” The next is therefore properly introduced as τρίτον. [καὶ ἐμπύροις καὶ ἀπύροι-ς]] For things prepared by fire and not so prepared. Thus caldrons and pitchers are both included. In Legg. 3, 679 a, αἰτία as σκευῶν ἐμπύρων te Kal ἀπύρων, the distinction is made between pottery and wickerwork, the former of which is baked and will bear heat. 9. Πῶς yap ov;] Se. εἴπωμεν ὡς οὐκ ἐστι ταύτην τὴν δύναμιν ἔχον. This form of assent to ἃ negative proposition has been questioned, and πῶς yap, πῶς yap οὖν, πῶς yap ἄν, suggested. But for a similar inexactness in reply, if this be inexactness, cf. Gorg. 467 6: ἾΔρ᾽ οὖν ἔστι τι τῶν ὄντων, ὃ οὐχὶ ἤτοι ἀγαθόν γ᾽ ἐστὶν ἢ κακὸν ἢ μεταξὺ τούτων, οὔτε ἀγαθὸν οὔτε κακόν ; Π. πολλὴ ἀνάγκη, ὦ Σ. (SC. μὴ εἶναί τι τῶν ὄντων ὃ ete. 10. Τούτων δὴ ---- γιγνόμενον | “ And there is a third kind of possessions, different from these and very extensive, which we must descry, on land and on water, perambulatory and stationary, honourable and dis- honoured, to which one name is given, because it is always intended to be sat upon, and is a seat for some one.” 10 Thirdly, platforms, or vehicles ; Fourthly, defences ; Fifthly, sports ; 118 MAATQNOZ \ Ν ’ \ Ν / Ν » Δ mAaves καὶ ἀπλανὲς καὶ μῶν ἐλευ ἄτιμον, ἕν δὲ ὄνομα ἔχον, διότι πᾶν ἔνεκά τινος ἐφέδρας ἐστί, θᾶκος ἀεί τινι γιγνόμενον. NE. 2Q. Τὸ ποῖον ; 5. SE. "Oynua αὐτό που λέγομεν, οὐ πάνυ πολιτι- mo A a \ lad \ κῆς ἔργον, ἀλλὰ μᾶλλον πολὺ τεκτονικῆς καὶ κερα- μικῆς καὶ χαλκοτυπικῆς. ᾽ὔ NE. 2Q. Μανθάνω. — / \ / opt) oS 9 , mE. Ti δὲ τέταρτον ; ap ἕτερον εἶναι τούτων / > a \ - BD lal Mf e / 10 AEKTEOV, ἐν ᾧ τὰ πλεῖστα ἐστι τῶν πάλαι ῥηθέντων, 3 Ip / Ν lad σ \ Χ Ν / ἐσθής τε ξύμπασα Kal τῶν ὅπλων TO πολὺ καὶ τείχη 7 > “ ΄ Uf Ν / Ν πάντα θ᾽ ὅσα γηινα περιβλήματα καὶ λίθινα, καὶ / oS les \ Ge bs ΄ ’ a μυρία ἕτερα ; προβολῆς de ἕνεκα ξυμπάντων αὑτῶν x ο ΄ ΄ εἰργασμένων δικαιότατ᾽ ἂν ὅλον προσαγορεύοιτο πρό- a a / o Ἵ τόβλημα, καὶ πολλῷ μᾶλλον τέχνης οἰκοδομικῆς ἐργον «᾿ an N a 7 95 oN 9 , x Kal ὑφαντικῆς τὸ πλεῖστον νομίζοιτ᾽ ἂν ὀρθότερον ἢ πολιτικῆς. , \ 5 NE. 2Q. Tavu μεν οὖν. Ni: Ἂ / GE. Πέμπτον δὲ ap ἂν ἐθέλοιμεν τὸ περὶ Tov , Ν Ν lat NCH 7 , 20KOT LOY καὶ γραφικὴν θεῖναι Kal ὅσα ταύτῃ προσχρώ- la / lod € μενα καὶ μουσικῇ μιμήματα τελεῖται, πρὸς τὰς ἡδονὰς I. τίμιον καὶ ἄτιμον] Cf. προ- g. Τί δὲ τέταρτον :1] Cf. Gorg. εδρία, πρῶτον ξύλον. Hom. Il. 474 6: τί δὲ δὴ αἴσχιον ; πότερον Μ. 311: τετιμήμεσθα μάλιστα κ.οτ.λ. ἕδρῃ τε κρέασίν te κιτιλ. Dio 10. τῶν πάλαι ῥηθέντων] Supr. Cass. 58,18: ἕδραι τε ἄτιμοι kat 270, 280. στάσεις ἐπονείδιστοι. II. τῶν ὅπλων τὸ πολύ] Le. 6. μᾶλλον πολὺ] Cf. supr. Defensive armour. 275 ¢, and note. 16. τὸ πλεῖστον ͵]͵ “ Most,” κεραμικῆ) The exact bear- not “all.” Not ὁπλοποιϊκή, for ing of this would be more evi- example. dent if we knew more of the ὀρθότερον pleonastically re- details of Greek life. sumes πολὺ μᾶλλον, as suiting 7. χαλκοτυπικῆς) By which better with νομίζοιτ᾽ ἄν. chariots, for example, are made. -- i | | cane a ἀεαιΞ Ἐπ zz = See ον pr ποτα ας :..........-----ς- -᾽- - ὠἘ --- 5 ὀἧὈὀ-Ὀο-- --- --.-ς-ς--.------.---------. ΠΟΛΙΤΊΚΟΣ. / « al 5 / 288. μόνον ἡμῶν ἀπειργασμένα, δικαίως περιληφθέντα ἑνί; NE. ΣΩ. Ποίῳ ; 119 “δ ᾽ ͵ αν ονομαᾶτι Ρ" / ΄ ΄, HE. Παίγνιόν ποὺ τι λέγεται. NE. ΣΏ. Τί μήν ; =! r a 7 / a + “ / =H. Tovro τοίνυν τούτοις ἕν ὄνομα ἅπασι πρέψει lal 3 > n 7 προσαγορευθέν: ov yap σπουδῆς οὐδὲν αὐτῶν χάριν, A 7 7 rn ἀλλὰ παιδιᾶς ἕνεκα πάντα δρᾶται. NE. 2Q. Καὶ τοῦτο σον ἔτι μανθάνω. 5 SE. To δὲ πᾶσι τούτοις σώματα παρέχον, ἐξ ὧν το Sixthly, καὶ ἐν οἷς δημιουργοῦσιν ὁπόσαι τῶν τεχνῶν νῦν εἴ- \ 3 ἴω ε ΄ ρηνται, παντοδαπὸν εἰδος, πολλῶν ἑτέρων τεχνῶν » yf 5.3 5 “ , ἔκγονον ὃν, ap οὐχ ἐκτον θησομεν ; 4. Παιίγνιόν πού τι] ‘There is such ἃ word in use as ‘ child’s-play.’” Cf. Soph. 226 Ὁ: λέγομεν. We have here the larger kind, of which μι- μητική is part. Cf. Soph. 234 b: παιδιᾶς δὲ ἔχεις ἥ τι τεχνι- κώτερον ἢ καὶ χαριέστερον εἶδος ἢ τὸ μιμητικόν : 10. Τὸ δὲ πᾶσι τούτοις σώματα παρέχον] This (if earlier than the Timzus) is probably a nearer approach than philo- sophy had hitherto made to the distinction of matter and form, of which the doctrine of elements in the earlier Greek philosophy was the anticipa- tion. The ἄπειρον of the Phi- lebus (see esp. 25 6) is a more abstract mode of the same conception, taken from Pytha- gorean philosophy (ef. ib. 54 ¢: γενέσεως μὲν ἕνεκα φάρμακά τε καὶ πάντα ὄργανα καὶ πᾶσαν ὑλὴν παρατίθεσθαι πᾶσιν) : and the notion of formless matter oc- curs once again in the Timzus, in a passage of which the germ may be found in the text, 49 a: νῦν δ᾽ ὁ λόγος ἔοικεν εἰσαναγ- κάζειν χαλεπὸν καὶ ἀμυδρὸν εἶδος ἐπιχειρεῖν λόγοις ἐμφανίσαι. τίνα οὖν ἔχον δύναμιν καὶ φύσιν αὐτὸ ὑποληπτέον 2 πάσης εἶναι γενέσεως ὑποδοχὴν αὐτό, οἷον te Ὅλ (Cf, Ars Rokk (8): πότερον ὡς ἡ repaid) TH ὑφαντικῇ, ἢ ὡς ἡ χαλκουργικὴ TH τοιάνδε μάλιστα, αἱ re Cs ‘ GE Gh Gan seatiayy > Poy > \ c ’ ἀνδριαντοποιΐᾳ' οὐ γὰρ ὡσαύτως ς ~ > >? c \ als ὑπηρετοῦσιν, ἀλλ᾿ ἡ μὲν ὄργανα δὲ ὑποκείμενον, ἐξ οὗ τι ἔργον, ὑφάντῃ μὲν ἔρια, ἀνδριαντοποιῷ δὲ χαλκόν. 11. ἐν οἷς] Matter is that in which art works as well as out of which art produces. Cf. Phileb. 59 d: καθάπερ δημιουρ- yots ἡμῖν, δημιουργεῖν τι, παρακεῖσθαι. 12. γονον oy | παρέχει, ἡ δὲ THY ὕλην. λέγω ὕλην τὸ > “ - ἀποτελεῖται οἷον - BD ἘΣ “ ἐξ ὧν ἢ ἐν οἷς δεῖ πολλῶν ἑτέρων τεχνῶν ἔκ- Hence it appears materials, (which should have been put first :) 120 ΠΛΑΤΩΝΟΣ ΝΕ. ΣΩ. Ποῖον δὴ λέγεις ; » Ν / , « ’ EE. Χρυσόν τε καὶ ἄργυρον καὶ πανθ᾽ ὁπόσα NA / Va ὃ \ Ν Ν & / μέτα €VETAL, και OOH ὀρυοτομικῇ Και κουρα υμπᾶασα / / “ Ν ‘el Ν » TEMVOVO A παρέχει TEKTOVLKY) και πλεκτικῇ»; και ετι ‘ ΄- > / / / 5 φλοιστικὴ φυτῶν τε Kal ἐμψύχων δέρματα σωμάτων A / NG / Ν \ ΚΤ, περιαιρουσα σκυτοτΤομικῆ. Καὶ OOAL TE pl TA TOLAVT > a / ΄σ εἰσὶ τέχναι, καὶ φελλῶν καὶ βύβλων καὶ δεσμῶν » a / XN ἐργαστικαί, παρέσχον δημιουργεῖν σύνθετα ἐκ μὴ / yA “ ἃ \ > τ 7 συντιθεμένων εἴδη γενῶν. ἐν δὲ αὐτὸ προσαγορεύωμεν “ Ν \ b) / te] Ἂς »45“.’ τοπτᾶν τὸ TpwToyeves ἀνθρώποις κτῆμα, καὶ ἀξυνθετον Ν a > / » ΄σ y y καὶ βασιλικῆς ἐπιστήμης οὐδαμῶς ἔργον OV. that matter is a relative no- tion: for which thought, see also Tim. 49 b, e. 2. Χρυσόν — yevav] “I mean gold and silver and all mineral productions, and all that wood-cutting and every sort of cutting provides for the arts of carpentry and plaiting ; and all wherein the process of barking, strip- ping off the cuticle of plants, and the currier’s art, denud- ing animals of theirs, and the other arts connected with such produce, that manufacture corks and papyrus and fasten- ings, provide for the manufac- ture of composite species from simple kinds.” Note the rhythm of the concluding words. The structure resembles Soph. 227 a: καὶ τῶν ἀψύχων σωμάτων (καθάρσεις), ὧν γναφευ- τικὴ καὶ ξύμπασα κοσμητικὴ τὴν ἐπι- μέλειαν παρεχομένη κατὰ σμικρὰ, πολλὰ καὶ γελοῖα δοκοῦντα ὀνόματα So here: καὶ φλοιστικὴ - περιαιροῦσα k.T.A. παρέσχον. The words from καὶ downwards aa EO XEV. are part of the relative clause, though not to be construed strictly with ὅσα. Compare the order of words in Legg. 6, 779 d: πάντα ὅσα διδασκαλεῖα κατεσκευασμένα περιμένει τοὺς φοιτητὰς καὶ θεατὰς θέατρα. Ib. 8734: ἐν τοῖς τῶν δώδεκα ὁρίοισι μερῶν. 3. κουρά] Τὰ. g. the cutting of osiers and brushwood, the mowing of grass and reaping of straw, the cropping of horses’ and camels’ hair, the shearing of sheep. 7. δεσμῶν] Such as glue and thread. 10. TO πρωτογενὲς ἀνθρώποις κτῆμα] The first-born of hu- man possessions, because ne- cessary to the production of all else. The word is a rare one, and occurs in the Orphie verses, where also Nature (φύσις) is called πρωτογένεια. It seems probable that Plato had this, in common with other terms employed in these dialogues, from a Pythagorean source. a ΠΟΛΙΓΙΚΟΣ. NE. ΣΩΏ. Καλώς. —_ \ \ ΄“ a a a ὦ , ἈΝ BE. Τὴν δὴ τῆς τροφῆς κτῆσιν, καὶ ὅσα εἰς τὸ σῶμα ξυγκαταμιγνύμενα ἑαυτῶν μέρεσι μέρη σώμα- > Ν ΄ / if 7 / Tos εἰς TO θεραπεῦσαί τινα δύναμιν εἴληχε, λεκτέον 121 Y > 7, uN / ε vad τὶ ἕβδομον ὀνομάσαντας αὐτὸ ξύμπαν ἡμῶν εἶναι τρο- / (4 7 yy » rod hov, εἰ μὴ τι κάλλιον ἔχομεν ἄλλο θέσθαι. γεωργικῇ \ \ ied Ν “ > ” ἊΝ δὲ καὶ θηρευτικῇ καὶ γυμναστικῇ καὶ ἰατρικῇ καὶ tal cal / / ’ DY μαγειρικῇ πᾶν ὑποτιθέντες ὀρθότερον ἀποδώσομεν ἢ τῇ πολιτικῇ. NE. 20. Πῶς γὰρ οὔ; N o / Χ mE. Σχεδὸν τοίνυν ὅσα ἔχεται κτήσεως, πλὴν a ἘΠΕ Σ ΄ > ΄ ε \ 5 / TOV ἡμέρων ζώων, εν TOUTOLS ETTTA οἶμαι γένεσιν » 7 , LS \ , \ 3 \ εἰρῆσθαι. σκόπει δέ; ἣν yap δικαιότατα μὲν av τεθὲν > > \ Ν \ 5 \ \ an 5 KQT αρχᾶς ΤΟ πρρῶώτογεένες εἰδος, μέτα δὲ TOUTO Op- yavov, ἀγγεῖον, ὄχημα, πρόβλημα, παίγνιον, θρέμμα. , \ 7 Χ παραλείπομεν δὲ εἴ τι μὴ 3. ἑαυτῶν μέρεσι] The po- sition of ἑαυτῶν μέρεσιν, which is for the sake of emphasis, determines the order of the following words. The whole is a periphrasis for φάρμακα. μέρη σώματος εἰς τὸ θερα- πεῦσαι δύναμίν τινα] Note the inversion : for δυν. τ. εἰς τὸ θερ. σώματος μέρη. 7. γυμναστικῇ] Because the trainer prescribes a certain diet. 11. ὅσα ἔχεται κτήσεως] ΟἿ. Theet. 145 a: ὅσα τε παιδείας ἔχεται, alib. 12. ἣν γὰρ] “ For we had, what would rightly have been placed first, the primitial kind.” 15. θρέμμα] “ Nourishment.” This meaning is not noticed in the Lexicons, but Stallbaum ΩΣ μέγα λέληθεν εἴς τι τού- well compares the use of γέν- νῆμα in Soph. 266 ἃ. Both uses originate in the “ cog- nate” object of the active becoming the subject of the passive voice. θρέμμα retains a verbal signification also in Lege. 7, 789 b: τρέφουσιν — ὀρνίθων θρέμματα. 16. παραλείπομεν----συμφωνήσει] “But we pass over whatever insignificant kind may have escaped us, which may pos- sibly be made to fit into one of these, for instance, -the na- ture of coins, seals, and stamps of all sorts.” [μέγα], which Bodl. Vat. Ven. M1 omit, is re- tained, not as genuine, but as possibly preserving the trace of a lost reading, perhaps of μόγις, suggested by Stallbaum. R Seventhly, nourish- ments. σι Το Into these seven kinds all posses- sions ex- cept living creatures can, by hook or 15 by crook, be distri- buted. Animate posses- sions, with the excep- tion of slaves,were previously included in the art of tending herds. There remains therefore the class of servants, amongst whom to look for the 19 nearest rivals of the king. But slaves, who are servants in 122 ITAATQNOZ των {{μεγὰ]} δυνατὸν ἁρμόττειν, οἷον ἡ τοῦ νομί- p. 8} ᾽ / Ν / Ν Ν lal σματος ἰδέα καὶ σφραγίδων καὶ παντὸς χαρακτῆρος. / \ > > ΄ rc Ia\ 32) / γένος TE yap εν AUTOLS TAVUTA οὐδὲν Exel μέγα ξύν- > \ \ \ > / \ \ > yy νομον, ἀλλὰ τὰ pev εἰς KOTMOVY, τὰ δὲ εἰς ὄργανα / / σ \ ’ὔ e , ͵7 δβίᾳ μέν, ὅμως δὲ πάντως €AKopeva συμφωνήσει. \ \ Ν / “ “ ε / Ν ΄ τὰ δὲ περὶ ζώων κτῆσιν τῶν ἡμέρων, πλὴν δούλων, ἡ πρότερον ἀγελαιοτροφικὴ διαμερισθεῖσα πάντα εἰληφυΐα ἀναφαίνεται. NE. ΣΩ. Πάνυ μὲν οὖν. EE. Τὸ δὲ δὴ δούλων καὶ πάντων ὑπηρετῶν λοιπόν, > - Ν / \ Ν 3 ωΝἪἮ x , εν OLS που και μαντεύομαι TOUS TrEpl QUTO TO πλέγμα ἀμφισβητοῦντας τῷ βασιλεῖ καταφανεῖς γενήσεσθαι, , a c , ΄ \ κ᾿ \ 7, καθαπερ τοῖς ὑφάνταις τοτε τοὺς περὶ τὸ νήθειν TE 3. γένος--συμφωνήσει] “ For these, while they have not in them the nature of any exten- sive kind which can be classed along with them, yet can, by hook or by crook, be made to harmonize, though not without some violence, either with the ornaments or the instruments of life.” τε γὰρ — adda] δὲ and even μέντοι and ἀλλὰ may sometimes follow re, when the opposition between two paral- lel clauses is thought of as the sentence proceeds. Cf. Pheedo 63 ¢: παρὰ ἄνδρας τε--- ὅτι μέντοι mapa θεούς, where however μὲν is interposed, and Theeet. 143 ©: περὶ αὑτοῦ τε ἢ αὖ περὶ τὸν ἀποκρινομένου. The two clauses here answer to μὴ μέγα and δυνατὸν ἁρμόττειν supr. 4. εἰς κόσμον] Which is a de- partment of παίγνιον : 288 ο. 5. Bia μέν---Κὅἥμως δὲ] Cf. Rep. 10, 607 6: βίᾳ μὲν, ὅμως δὲ ἀπέχονται, and Soph. Ant. ITI16: οἴμοι μόλις μὲν, καρδίας δ᾽ ἐξίσταμαι τὸ δρᾷν, τε is used because their not being refer- rible to an important class is one of the two reasons for omitting them. 7. ἡ πρότερον ἀγελαιοτροφικὴ διαμερισθεῖσαΪ ~=Note the in- verted order. II, ἐν ois που] “Somewhere amongst whom.” τοὺς περὶ αὐτὸ τὸ πλέγμαϊ He refers to the difficulty about the king in the language of the example of weaving: i.e. those who dispute with the king about the fabric of the web itself and not only about the instruments of the manu- facture. Cf. 268, 281; and vid. infr. 305 6: πάντα ξυνυ- φαίνουσαν ὀρθότατα --- τὴν δὴ βασιλικὴν συμπλοκήν. 13. τοῖς ὑφάνταις] Se. ἀμφισ- βητοῦντας φαίνεσθαι. : ΠΟΛΙΤΙΚΟΣ. 123 \ , “ yy 7 ε ” , 289. καὶ ξαίνειν καὶ ὅσα ἄλλα εἴπομεν. οἱ δ᾽ ἄλλοι πάν- τες, ὡς συναίτιοι λεχθέντες, ἅμα τοῖς ἔργοις τοῖς νῦν δὴ ῥηθεῖσιν ἀνήλωνται καὶ ἀπεχωρίσθησαν ἀπὸ βα- σιλικῆς τε καὶ πολιτικῆς πράξεως. NE. 2Q. Ἔοικασι γοῦν. EE. Ἴθι δὴ σκεψώμεθα τοὺς λοιπούς, προσ- ελθόντες ἐγγύθεν, ἵν᾿ αὐτοὺς εἰδῶμεν βεβαιότερον. NE. 2Q. Οὐκοῦν χρή. SE. Τοὺς μὲν δὴ μεγίστους ὑπηρέτας, ὡς ἐνθένδε ἰδεῖν, τοὐναντίον ἔχοντας εὑρίσκομεν οἷς ὑπωπτεύσα- μεν ἐπιτήδευμα καὶ πάθος. NE. ΣΩ. Twas : ΞΕ, Tous ὠνητούς τε καὶ τῷ τρόπῳ τούτῳ κτη- τούς" ods ἀναμφισβητήτως δούλους ἔχομεν εἰπεῖν, ἥκιστα βασιλικῆς μεταποιουμένους τέχνης. NE. ΣΏ. [los δ᾽ οὔ: mE. Τί δέ; τῶν ἐλευθέρων ὅσοι τοῖς νῦν δὴ ῥη- 9. μεγίστους----ὡς ἐνθένδε ἰδεῖν] “The greatest—as seen from where we now stand.” 1. 6. the greatest servants, because most essentially such, this being the only measure which our method allows. Cf. infr, 303 6, for the same use of τῷ καλῶς δουλεῦσαι μᾶλλον ἢ τῷ καλῶς ἄρξαι. Ib. 763 a: αὐτοὶ dv αὑτῶν διανοηθήτωσαν ὡς βιω- σόμενοι διακονοῦντές τε καὶ δια- κονούμενοι ἑαυτοῖς. 10. οἷς] = ἐκείνοις ἃ. Plural, because of the two antecedents, ἐπιτήδευμα καὶ πάθος. μέγιστος. Also Phileb. 45 a: 11. καὶ πάθος] “ And feel- μέγισται τῶν ἡδονῶν. Legg. 1, ing,” viz. ambition. e ‘ > ~ , Cm “A δ c ~ > 630 a: τους εν τῷ βεγίστῷ ; 17. τοῖς νυν δὴ ῥηθεῖσιν εἰς πολέμῳ γιγνομενους αριστοῦυς ὑπηρετικήν | Qu. an legend. διαφανῶς. The contempt here ὑπηρεσίαν See, however, Eu- thyphr. 13 ἃ. “To the task of ministering to those just now mentioned” (the artificers of the seven kinds of posses- sions). All trade, especially in money, is viewed by the Greek philosophers as essenti- implied for διακονία may be contrasted with a striking pas- sage of the Laws, where the power of ministering to them- selves and others is made es- sential to the officers of state, 6, 762 6: καλλωπίζεσθαι χρὴ Ὁ ἢ 2 2 15 the highest degree, have no- thing in common with the king. Nor have those freemen who en- gage as birelings in the ser- vile opera- tions of trade. 124 ΄- , [ὦ \ e / « Ἁ / ve θεῖσιν εἰς ὑπηρετικὴν EKOVTES αὑτοὺς τάττουσι, τὰ TE p. 28 9. ITAATQNOD / Ν Ν “- » lal A / γεωργίας καὶ τὰ τῶν ἄλλων τεχνῶν ἔργα διακομίζον - aid) ..9 / Ai 3 lal « \ yes) , Tes ἐπ ἀλλήλους καὶ ἀνισοῦντες, OL μὲν KAT ἀγορᾶς, ε / > , > ͵ὕ \ / οἱ δὲ πόλιν ἐκ πόλεως ἀλλάττοντες κατὰ θάλατταν ἵν Sa / , Ν 53 Ν ae. ‘ ee. 5 καὶ πεζῇ, νομισμά TE πρὸς τάλλα καὶ AUTO πρὸς AUTO ¢ 5 5» / A διαμείβοντες, ods ἀργυραμοιβούς τε Kal ἐμπόρους καὶ » 7 a lal ναυκλήρους καὶ καπήλους ἐπωνομάκαμεν, μῶν τῆς an ΕἸ / πολιτικῆς ἀμφισβητήσουσί τι; NE. 2Q. Tay’ ἂν ἴσως τῆς γε τῶν ἐμπορευτικῶν. ΙΟ EE. ᾿Αλλ᾽ οὐ μήν, οὕς γε ὁρῶμεν μισθωτοὺς καὶ a a « , lal / Onras πᾶσιν ἑτοιμότατα ὑπηρετοῦντας, μὴ ποτε βα- ΄ / v4 OLALKNS μεταποιουμένους εὕρωμεν. ally inferior to other forms of industry. Cf. Rep. 2, 371 b: Καὶ δὴ τῶν ἄλλων διακόνων που τῶν τε εἰσαξόντων καὶ ἐξαξόντων ἕκαστα. οὗτοι δέ εἰσιν ἔμποροι. Ib. α: εἰσὶν οἱ τοῦτο ὁρῶντες ἑαυτοὺς ἐπὶ τὴν διακονίαν τάτ- τουσι ταύτην, ἐν μὲν ταῖς ὀρθῶς οἰκουμέναις πόλεσι σχεδόν τι οἱ ἀσθενέστατοι τὰ σώματα καὶ ἀχρεῖοί τι ἄλλο ἔργον πράττειν. --- αὕτη ἄρα ἡ χρεία καπήλων ἡμῖν γένεσιν ἐμποιεῖ τῇ πόλει. ἢ οὐ καπήλους πρὸς ὠνήν τε καὶ πρᾶσιν διακονοῦντας ; and for πόλιν ἐκ πόλεως in this connexion, cf. Soph. 224 b, and note. The statesmen are viewed as διάκονοι in the Gorgias, p. 517. Cf. Theet. 175 e: τορῶς τε καὶ ὄξεως διακονεῖν. Legg. 8,831 e (of the influ- ence of commerce) : ἐμπόρους τε καὶ ναυκλήρους καὶ διακόνους πάν- τως τοὺς φύσει κοσμίους τῶν ἀν- θρώπων ἀπεργαζομένη. I. τά τε — διαμείβοντες | “ Bringing over to each other A ‘ καλοῦμεν τοὺς and equalizing the work of the husbandman and of the other artificers (ἐπ᾽ ἀλλήλους, 56. τοὺς γεωργούς, &e.): some in the market-place and some trans- ferring them from city to city by sea and land, exchanging money for other commodities, and these for money.” 3. ἀνισοῦντε) This seems to point to a doctrine of ex- change approaching to that of Aristotle in Eth. Nie. V. 4. πόλιν -- ἀλλάττοντε)]) Cf. Soph. 224 b, and note. The words are usually taken to mean “going from city to city ;” for which cf. Theet. 181d: χώραν ἐκ χώρας pera- βάλλῃ. 9. τῆς γε τῶν ἐμπορευτικῶν (sc. πολιτικῆς)}] “ The science of directing commercial inter- course.” The merchant may profess political economy, but not statesmanship or political science. το. καὶ θῆτας] Cf. Euthyphr. Hae: Ρ. 28 ..........».................- - Ἐς. IIOAITIKO2. 125 290. NE. SQ; ΠΠὡς γαρ; Then hee ᾿ 2 δι aes are public RE. Τί δὲ ἄρα τοὺς τὰ τοιάδε διακονοῦντας ἡμῖν semua 8ucn as ἑκάστοτε: heralds and scribes, who are NE. 2Q. Τὰ ποῖα εἶπες καὶ τίνας ; = n x 2 ς , not to be b ΞΕ. Ὧν τὸ κηρυκικὸν ἔθνος, ὅσοι τε περὶ γράμ- 5 confound- x ; ; Ξ i, ed with the ματα σοφοὶ γίγνονται πολλάκις ὑπηρετήησαντες, rulers. Yet, N Γ ACs Bo 5 n 5 \ zs however καὶ πολλ᾽ ἄττα ἕτερα περὶ Tas apxas διαπονεῖσθαι strange the Α “ ͵ὕ , 7 5 7 thought τινὲς ἕτεροι πάνδεινοι, TL τούτους αὖ λέζομεν ; that the claimants for the art of rule are 10 to be found amongst NE. 2Q. Ὅπερ εἶπες viv, ὑπηρέτας, ἀλλ᾽ οὐκ av- Pp » UMNPETAS, \ la “ a» τοὺς ἐν ταῖς πόλεσιν ἄρχοντας. =! > > / 53 / / \ 5 BE. ᾿Αλλ᾽ οὐ μὴν, οἰμαί γε, ἐνύπνιον ἰδὼν εἶπον servants, ; , \ , 3 it was ταὐτῃ πῇ φανήσεσθαι τοὺς διαφερόντως ἀμφισβη- το mere > a ἮΝ a , / ὃ ey dream. τοῦντας τῆς πολιτικῆς. καί TOL σφόδρα YE ἄτοπον ἂν There are 5 / X a , D ¢ a other pub- ο εἶναι δόξειε τὸ ᾧηγτεῖν τούτους ἐν ὑπηρετικῇ μοιρᾳ τὰ εν ΡοΣ ἢ ters whom τινι. Τὸ we have aN 53 not yet NE. 2Q. Κομιδῇ μὲν οὖν. που 7 Ν 3 , > Ν . HE. "Ere δὴ προσμίξωμεν ἐγγύτερον ἐπὶ τοὺς ΤῊΘ priest, , ΄ὕ τ Ν ἘΝῚ Ὁ \ s diates be- {ATT @ βεβασαν ὌΠ ous. εἰσὶ δὲ οἵ ἦν I eS ra gods + ΄ » , oa 3S + and men EXGVTES τινος STDS OUGID! Be ptO Se AE ae if / a 5 ap ποὺ νομίζονται παρὰ θεῶν ἀνθρώποις. 20 prophet, Yap 7 μ ζ Ὥ ρ = who inter- 2. Tovs—Otakovodvras] Ne. εὕ- ΤΙ. AAN od—polpa τινί] “Yet popev or λέξομεν. 5. περὶ γράμματα 7 H.g. the public γραμματεῖς at Athens. 6. copoi—innperncarres| Cf. Legg. 4, 720 Ὁ: ἐάν τέ γ᾽ ἐλεύ- θεροι ὦσιν ἐάν τε δοῦλοι, κατ᾽ ἐπί- ταξιν δὲ τῶν δεσποτῶν καὶ θεωρίαν καὶ κατ᾽ ἐμπειρίαν τὴν τέχνην κτῶνται. 7. καὶ πόλλ᾽ ἄττα---πάνδεινοι] * And certain others most accomplished in performing many other processes con- nected with government.” 9. Ὅπερ εἶπες] Supr. ὑπηρε- τήσαντας. I am convinced it was no mere dream which prompted me to say that somewhere hereabouts would appear the men who above others put in an opposing claim to the poli- tical art—though it may in- deed be thought very absurd to look for these in any servile department.” 17. προσμίξωμεν ἐγγύτερον | Cf. Thezet. 179 ¢: προσιτέον οὖν ἐγγυτέρω. 19. τινος --- μόριον] “ A por- tion of ἃ kind of servile prets the will of hea- ven,assume an impos- ing atti- tude. In Heypt the king must always be 5 7Q@pa a priest, and the Archon- Basileus at Athens performs the most ancient sacrifices. At last, then, we have hit upon a trace of those whom we seek. These archon- kings, elected by lot, belong with their ministers toa certain motley and shift- ing throng: some of 126 ΠΛΑΤΩΝΟΣ NE. ΣΟ Nai. EE. Καὶ μὴν καὶ τὸ τῶν ἱερέων αὖ γένος, ὡς TO νόμιμόν φησι, παρὰ μὲν ἡμῶν δωρεὰς θεοῖς διὰ θυ- al > a , > \ a > / “Ὁ σιῶν ἐπιστῆμον ἐστι κατὰ νοῦν ἐκείνοις δωρεῖσθαι, Ν \ > / « lal > lad lad lal 7 δὲ ἐκείνων ἡμῖν εὐχαῖς κτῆσιν ἀγαθῶν αἰτή- ἃ fal \ / / 3 ὔ / σασθαι. ταῦτα de διακόνου τέχνης ἐστί που μόρια ἀμφότερα. NE. 2Q. Paivera γοῦν. — 7 / “ ey, ZE.” Hon τοίνυν μοι δοκοῦμεν οἷόν ye τινος ἴχνους x43 δ / 7 \ \ \ “ τοέφ᾽ ὃ πορευόμεθα προσάπτεσθαι. τὸ γὰρ δὴ τῶν ς 7 “ Ν \ ΄σ΄ , 5 7 i; ἱερέων σχημαὰ καὶ TO τῶν μάντεων εὖ μάλα Ppovn- ματος πληροῦται καὶ δόξαν σεμνὴν λαμβάνει διὰ τὸ / 6 lod 3 , Cd Ν \ Αἴ μέγεῦος των ἐγχειρημάτων, WOTE περὶ μεν Διγυπτον οὐδ᾽ ἔξεστι βασιλέα χωρὶς ἱερατικῆς ἄρχειν, ἀλλ᾽ ἐὰν yy Ν , J 5 yy / , τἄρα Kal τύχῃ πρότερον ἐξ ἄλλου γένους βιασάμενος, A 3 a > a 5 STEN Χ ὕστερον ἀναγκαῖον εἰς τοῦτο εἰστελεῖσθαι αὑτὸν τὸ γένος. ἔτι δὲ καὶ τῶν Ελλήνων πολλαχοῦ ταῖς με- / a Ν / a A An γίσταις ἀρχαῖς τὰ μέγιστα τῶν περὶ τὰ τοιαῦτα , “ ΔΟ / 7 3, \ θύματα εὕροι τις av προσταττόμενα θύειν. καὶ On art,” viz. of that of the inter- preter, who is a species of servant. 2. ὡς TO νόμιμόν φησι] The irony of this appears from Legg. 10, 906, Rep. 2, 364 e. 4. κατὰ νοῦν éxewous] CF. Soph. id. Col. 1768: κατὰ νοῦν κείνῳ, where the expres- sion conveys a similar reveren- tial feeling. 9. οἷόν γέ twos txvovs] Cf. Rep. 4, 432 d: κινδυνεύομέν τι ἔχειν ἴχνος. 10. τὸ yap—yevos] “ For we see that the priest and prophet assume an attitude of proud importance, and have im- pressed mankind with awe, on account of the greatness of their undertakings, so that in Egypt it is not lawful for a king to reign without the priesthood, but if it should so happen that he has previously forced his way to the throne from some other caste, it is necessary that he be after- wards initiated into this.” 18, τὰ μέγιστα----θύματα] “The most important sacrifices con- nected with such things,” viz. with propitiation. Qu. an le- gend. θυμάτων 1 Ρ.2 | — ~m— δε τ σεν 65. ΠΟΛΙΤΙΚΟΣ. \ SING. A , ov a A , . a 90. καὶ Tap ὑμῖν οὐχ ἠκιστα δῆλον ὃ λέγω" τῷ ] / rn - \ , λαχόντι βασιλεῖ φασὶ τῇδε τὰ σεμνότατα Kal 197 γὰρ μά- λιστα πάτρια τῶν ἀρχαίων θυσιῶν ἀποδεδόσθαι. NE. ΣΏΩ, Καὶ πάνυ γε. Χ \ / HE. Τούτους re τοίνυν τοὺς κληρωτοὺς βασιλέας 5 vA Ν 7 AGP να / Sey / aS Aa και ἱερέας; και υπηρετας αὐτῶν καὶι τινὰ ETEPOV ΄, “, 7 A "7 ΄, a πάμπολυν ὄχλον σκεπτέον, OS ἄρτι καταδηλος νῦν « lal / a yf ἡμῖν γέγονεν ἀποχωρισθέντων τῶν ἔμπροσθεν. NE. 3Q. Tivas αὐτοὺς καὶ λέγεις ; / \ YY HE. Καὶ μάλα τινὰς ἀτόπους. NE, 50. Τί δή; , , , SN 7 ,ὕἷ HE. Παμφυλὸόν τι γένος αὐτῶν ὡς γε ἄρτι σκο- ’ὔἅ / Ν \ \ / - 3 πουμένῳ φαίνεται. πολλοὶ μὲν yap λέουσι τῶν av- 2. τῇδε] “Here in Athens.” Cf. the Rex Saerificulus at Rome. He might have in- stanced Agamemnon in Ho- in Greek mer and Theseus tragedy. τῶ τὰ σεμνότατα καὶ μάλιστα πάτρια] He presided at the Lenean or older Dionysia: superintended the mysteries and games called λαμπαδηφο- piat, and had to offer up sacri- fices and prayers in the Eleu- sinium, both at Athens and Eleusis. (Smith’s Dict. of Ant., s. v. Archon.) 5. κληρωτοὺς] Following up the notion of λαχόντι. In men- tioning the ἄρχων βασιλεὺς we have at last hit upon one of the real pretenders to political power. 6. καὶ ὑπηρέτας αὐτῶν] Cf. Ar. Pol. IV. 12: ἔστι δὲ οὐδὲ “ , e/ , - τοῦτο διορίσαι ῥᾳδιον, ποίας δεῖ ε > (Fe a \ > καλεῖν ἀρχάς᾽ πολλῶν γὰρ ἐπι- στατῶν ἡ πολιτικὴ κοινωνία δεῖ- "» OUTE ται διόπερ πάντας τοὺς αἱρετοὺς οὔτε τοὺς κληρωτοὺς ἄρχοντας θετέον, οἷον τοὺς ἱερεῖς πρῶτον. ὑπηρετὰὲ αὐτῶν ἢ] The λο- γογράφοι are perhaps included, who furnished public speakers with arguments. 9. Tivas—xai| Cf. Theet. πόσα: χάνει ὄν. ὃ τι δήποτε καὶ τυγ- Euthyd. 271 a: Ὃπό- τερον καὶ ἐρωτᾷς, ὦ Κρίτων ; 13. πολλοὶ --- θηρίοις 7 Le. “Some strong and fierce, some weak and cunning.” Compare Bacon, Ady. of Learning, Ellis’ ed., p. 394. ‘And although we have said that the use of this doctrine (of Elenches) is for redargution, yet it is mani- fest the degenerate and cor- rupt use is for caption and contradiction : which passeth for a great faculty, and no doubt is of very great advant- age: though the difference be good which was made between whom, like lions and Centaurs, are fierce and strong; others weak and cunning, like Satyrs. Yet their strange- ness is only the igno- rance of an unfami- liar vision. The mon- sters just described are no other than the band who man- age the affairs of states. 128 ITAATQNOZ n » ΄ ΄ cu δρῶν εἴξασι καὶ Kevravpous καὶ τοιούτοισιν ἑτέροις, p- 29 i! ΄ \ / a / Ν πάμπολλοι δὲ Σατύροις καὶ τοῖς ἀσθενέσι καὶ πολυ- b / / \ \ ’ / ΕῚ 7 τρόποις θηρίοις" ταχὺ δὲ μεταλλάττουσι Tas τε ἰδέας Ν ‘ / > ’ / Ν / a καὶ τὴν δύναμιν εἰς ἀλλήλους. καὶ μέντοι μοι νῦν, om / 4 “ Υ̓͂ ‘ ᾿, ᾿ 5@ Σώκρατες, ἄρτι δοκῶ κατανενοηκέναι τοὺς ἂν- ᾿ This is Arch-So- phist, the Opas. NE. 50. Λέγοις av’ ἔοικας yap ἀτοπόν τι καθ- ορᾶν. =E N Le ἊΝ Ν ΒΩ » ᾿ val EE. Nai: τὸ yap ἀτοπον ἐξ ayvoias πᾶσι συμ- / Ν Ν \ Ν a aN a "ἊΝ ε το βαίνει. καὶ yap δὴ καὶ νῦν αὐτὸς τοῦτο ἐπαθον 5 7 > , \ Ν Ν A lal "2 ἐξαίφνης ἠμφεγνόησα κατιδὼν τὸν περὶ τὰ τῶν πὸ- λεων πράγματα χορόν. NE. >Q. Ποῖον: EE. Tov πάντων τῶν orators and sophisters, that the one is as the greyhound, which hath the advantage in the race, and the other as the hare, which hath her advantage in the turn, so as it is the advantage to the weaker crea- ture.” And cf. Legg. 6, 781 a: τὸ θηλὺ ἐπικλοπώτερον διὰ τὸ ἀσθενές. 4. καὶ pevtor—avdpas] “ And come, I do think I now this moment have perceived the na- ture of the men.” 7. ἔοικας — kabopav] 1. 6. “ Judging from your looks.” Cf. Soph. Ant. 20: δηλοῖς γάρ TL καλχαίνουσ᾽ ἔπος. Legg. 3 810 €: τί ποτε τοῦτ᾽ ὦ ξένε, φαίνει πρὸς σαυτὸν ὄντως ἠπορη- Kas λέγειν ; The principle of election by lot, which Plato ridicules here, is admitted within very narrow limits in the Laws. Cf. Lege. 3, 690d: Θεοφιλῆ δέ ye καὶ rn / / σοφιστῶν μέγιστον γόητα εὐφιλῆ τινα λέγοντες ἑβδόμην ap- χὴν (compare the seven forms of government and seven c¢a- tegories of possession in the Politicus) εἰς κλῆρόν τινα προ- ἄγομεν κ.τ.λ. . τὸ γὰρ ἄτοπον ἐξ ἀγνοίας] Cf. Arist. Met. I. 2. 982b: ὁ & ἀπορῶν καὶ θαυμάζων οἴεται ay- νοεῖν. 10. αὐτὸς τοῦτο ἔπαθον] “1 myself fell into this snare,” viz. of thinking strange what was only strange to me. The Stranger is like the philoso- pher as described in the Thez- tetus, who knows nothing of public assemblies or the de- tails of civic life. For πάσχω in this sense, ef. Soph. 232 a, Ar. Pol. IV. 7: τοῦτο πάσχουσιν οἱ λέγοντες διὰ TO μεμῖχθαι καλῶς. 11. ἐξαίφνης belongs by an hyperbaton to κατιδών. 14. Tov—ydnta] Cf. Soph. 235 a: els γόητα μὲν δὴ καὶ μι- ΠΟΛΙΤΙΚΟΣ. 129 ἈΝ , aA 7 , A κ a ΟἹ, και TQAUTNS TS TEXVNS ἐμπειρότατον᾽ OV ἀπὸ TOV ww + “-“ \ al , OVT@S OVTMY πολιτικῶν καὶ βασιλικῶν καίπερ παγ- 7 57 - > / ᾽ “-“ χάλεπον ὄντα ἀφαιρεῖν ἀφαιρετέον, εἰ μέλλομεν ἰδεῖν ἐναργῶς τὸ ζητούμενον. NE. ΣΏ. ᾿Αλλὰ μὴν τοῦτό γε οὐκ ἀνετέον. HE. Οὔκουν δὴ κατά γε τὴν ἐμήν. καί μοι φράζε τόδε. NE. >Q. Τὸ ποῖον ; = 5 > 3 7 a od ἘΝ a BE. “Ap ov μοναρχία τῶν πολιτικῶν ἡμῖν ἀρχῶν 2 Ν / ἐστὶ μια: NE. 2Q. Ναί. =A) K \ \ , 3) yx 5 x py te αι μετὰ μοναρχιᾶν εἴποι TLS AV, οιμαι, ΤῊΡν ΘΙ ΘΝ, a ON Se ͵ ὕπο τῶν ολίγων δυναστείαν. NE. 2Q. Ids δ᾽ οὔ; H&E. Τρίτον δὲ σχῆμα πολιτείας οὐχ ἡ τοῦ πλή- θους ἀρχή, δημοκρατία τοὔνομα κληθεῖσα ; NE. ΣΩ. Πάνυ γε. σ΄ > 3 vad > / / \\ mE. Τρεῖς δ᾽ οὖσαι μῶν ov πέντε τρόπον τινὰ / / 3 ἐ an yf SN ε ων ΕῚ 7 γίγνονται, δύο ἐξ ἑαυτῶν ἄλλα πρὸς αὑταῖς ὀνόματα TLKTOVOAL 5 μητὴν apa θετέον τινα. The sin- cular after χόρον is curious, but this is only one more instance of the transition from the class to the ideal individual, which we have had frequent occasion to notice. I. ταύτης τῆς τέχνης ἐμπειρό- τατον] Sc. τῆς σοφιστικῆς. Cf. Gorg. 465d: φύρονται ἐν τῷ αὐτῷ καὶ περὶ ταὐτὰ σοφισταὶ καὶ ῥήτορες, καὶ οὐκ ἔχουσιν ὅτι χρή- σωνται οὔτε αὐτοὶ ἑαυτοῖς οὔτε οἱ ἄλλοι ἄνθρωποι τούτοις. 5. ᾿Αλλὰ μὴν] “ Well, we must not relax our efforts in regard to this.” Se. τὸ ἐναργῶς ἰδεῖν τὸ ζητούμενον. 6. κατά γε τὴν ἐμήν] Cf. supr. 27 a. 13. ὑπὸ τῶν ὀλίγων] Depend- ing on the verbal notion in δυναστείαν. Cf. Rep. 2, 359 a: τὸ ὑπὸ τοῦ νόμου ἐπίταγμα. 19. δύο----τίκτουσαι)]7Π So the three categories of the Sophist, Being, Rest, and Motion, be- came five through generating, “by their own dialectic,” the categories of Sameness and Difference. τοῦτο] χ 5 5 sie) μι σι impostor of impostors, who must be sepa- rated, how- ever diffi- cult the task, from the true Statesman and King. We com- monly speak of three forms of govern- ment, mon- archy, oli- garchy,and democracy. And the distinctions of compul- sion and freedom, poverty and wealth, observance of the laws and law- lessness, give rise to the further division of mon- archy into royalty and 20 tyranny, and of oli- garchy into aristocracy and pluto- cracy. The same distine- tions no doubt arise in demo- cracy, but without changing the name, Thus the common way of thinking recognizes five forms. But is any one of these based on a real prin- ciple ? For we have as- sumed from the first that there is a science of govern- ment. 130 NE. Q. Ποῖα δή; — \ \ « / 5» =E. Πρὸς τὸ βίαιόν που καὶ ἑκούσιον ἀποσκο- 6 ΠΛΑΤΏΝΟΣ a a ΄σ Ν / Ν ποῦντες νῦν, καὶ πενίαν καὶ πλοῦτον, καὶ νόμον καὶ ᾽ / > > vad / “ « ΄ὔ cr ἀνομίαν, EV αὐταῖς γιγνόμενα, διπλὴν εκατέραν τοῖν a "τι \ 7, ec 5 δυοῖν διαιροῦντες μοναρχίαν μὲν προσαγορεύουσιν ws , > “ ‘ \ δύο παρεχομένην εἴδη δυοῖν ὀνόμασι, τυραννίδι, TO δὲ βασιλικῇ. NE. 20. Ti pny; SE. Τὴν δὲ ὑπὸ ὀλίγων ye ἑκάστοτε κρατηθεῖσαν J > / Ss 2 / IOTOAL ἀριστοκρατίᾳ καὶ ολιγαρχίᾳ. NE. ΣΏΩ. Καὶ πάνυ ye. , , ΄ ΩΣ τὶ ee Che mE. Δημοκρατίας ye μὴν, ἐὰν τ᾽ οὖν βιαίως ἐάν « / lat ἊΝ > / 3 / \ “Ὁ τε ἑκουσίως τῶν τὰς οὐσίας ἐχόντων τὸ πλῆθος 57 “ \ DY δ / 3 ia / ἀρχῇ. Kal ἐὰν TE τοὺς νόμους ἀκριβῶς φυλάττον μεταλλάττειν. NE. ΣΏΩ. ᾿Αληθῆ. EE. Τί οὖν ; οἰόμεθά 3. νῦν] “ According to pre- sent notions.” Cf. Soph. 236 a. In Rep. 8, 9, we have the picture of four imperfect states, Timocracy, Oligarchy, Demo- eracy, and Tyranny, nearly cor- responding to the four which are distinguished from Kingly Monarchy here. But the esti- mate of each, and the mode in which their relation to the ideal government is conceived, are very different in the two passages. Plato is avowedly speaking here according to the common opinion. The acknowledgment that, after all, democracy, under legal con- ditions, is the least bad, is a 27 , 7 oy > Ν x, ἢ 37 ιϑέαν τε μῆ, πάντως τοὔνομα οὐδεὶς αὐτῆς εἴωθε 2 na nan τινα TOUT@Y TOY πολιτειῶν point of approximation to the Laws. See the Introduction to the Statesman. πενίαν καὶ πλοῦτον] Wealth being the mark of the tyrant and oligarch, as distinguished from the king and the aristo- crat, as well as from the people. 6. τυραννίδι, τὸ δὲ βασιλικῇ] Cf. Soph. 221 6: νευστικοῦ μέ- ρους, τὸ δὲ πεζοῦ τέμνοντες (where see note). Phedo 105 e: Δμουσον, ἔφη, τὸ δὲ ἄδικον. τὸ, Se. εἶδος. 10. ἀρ. καὶ ὀλιγ.7 Se. διαιροῦσιν. 15. αὐτῆς] Resuming δημο- κρατίας, which is placed at the beginning for emphasis. Ρ. 29} p- 29 ΠΟΛΙΤΙΚΟΣ. 151 » ‘ 53 , ΄- “ « σι δὺς 92. ὀρθὴν εἶναι τούτοις τοῖς ὅροις ὁρισθεῖσαν, ἑνὶ καὶ ον Ν - Ν ΄ Ν / Ν ad ολίγοις καὶ πολλοῖς, καὶ πλούτῳ καὶ πενίᾳ, καὶ τῷ / Ν «ε / Ν \ 4 Ν yA βιαίῳ καὶ ἑκουσίῳ, καὶ μετὰ γραμμάτων καὶ ἄνευ / / / νόμων ξυμβαίνουσαν γίγνεσθαι ; » NE. 3Q. Τί γὰρ δὴ καὶ κωλύει ; 5 EE. Σκόπει δὴ σαφέστερον, τῇδε ἑπόμενος. ΝΕ. ΣΩ. Πῃ: — eae / \ / / > a ΞΕ. Τῷ ῥηθέντι κατὰ πρώτας πότερον ἐμμενοῦμεν ἢ διαφωνήσομεν ; NE. ΣΏ. Τῷ δὴ ποίῳ λέγεις ; 10 = A \ \ “ “ 5 SE. Τὴν βασιλικὴν ἀρχὴν τῶν ἐπιστημῶν εἶναί y > τινα ἐεφαμεν, οἶμαι. NEO. Ναί. — / 2 « a A \ ΞΕ. Καὶ τούτων ye οὐχ ἁπασῶν, ἀλλὰ κριτικὴν uA Ἂν Ν. 3 Ἂ » “ BA Uf δήπου τινὰ καὶ ἐπιστατικὴν ἐκ τῶν ἄλλων προειλό- 15 μεθα. 2. τῷ βιαίῳ καὶ ἑκουσίῳ] CE Arist. Pol. III. 1: ὡς ἐνίας τῶν πολιτειῶν τῷ κρατεῖν οὔσας, ἀλλ᾽ οὐ διὰ τὸ κοίνῃ συμφέρειν. 3. καὶ--- γίγνεσθαι] Plato re- verts to the main construction (here participial) instead of add- ing another dependent clause. The words pera—ypapparav— γίγνεσθαι stand in apposition to τούτοις---ὁρισθεῖσαν. μετὰ γραμμάτων καὶ ἄνευ νό- pov] Note the variety of ex- pression. The laws are spoken of with some contempt as mere γράμματα, and are thus compared to written rules of art. Compare Phedr. 258 a, Gorg. 451 b: of ἐν τῷ δήμῳ συγγραφόμενοι. Lege. 9, 858 ¢: γράμματα μέν που καὶ ἐν γράμμασι λόγοι καὶ ἄλλων εἰσὶ πολλῶν ἐν st “Ss ταῖς πόλεσι γεγραμμένοι, γράμματα δὲ καὶ τὰ τοῦ νομοθέτου καὶ λόγοι. Ib. 9ο57 ¢. The expression is often used also by Aristotle in the Politics. 8. κατὰ πρώτας] A parallel idiom to κατὰ μόνας. κατὰ as in κατ᾽ ἀρχάς. Some such word as ὑποθέσεις may be here supplied. 11. τῶν ἐπιστημῶν εἶναί τινα] Supr. 258 b. 14. KpiTikny τινα καὶ ἐπιστατι- knv| ‘One which is at once critical and commanding.” This appears from 260 a, where, however, κριτική, or rather γνω- στική, and ἐπιτακτικὴ, are the terms opposed. Compare supr. ΠΡ Ca ΘΟΡΠ 225 "Κ΄ “5110 where there is a similar verbal inexactness of reference. 2 But scien- {πῆς go- vernment is not se- cured by the rulers being many, few or one, rich or poor, or by their rule being com- pulsory or voluntary. We have still, then, to discover under which of these forms there is contained 132 NE, 2Q. Nai. mE. Kak τῆς 2, \ \ ὡς / Ν Ν al \ ‘\ ἔργοις, τὴν δὲ ἐπὶ ζώοις. καὶ κατὰ τοῦτον δὴ τὸν ΠΛΑΤΩΝΟΣ > a ‘ \ ee. 5 / ἐπιστατικῆς τὴν μὲν ἐπ ἀψύχοις / / Ver ROS / » , τρόπον μερίζοντες δεῦρ᾽ ἀεὶ προεληλύθαμεν, ἐπιστή- ᾽ , \ “ ϑὦ ge a 5 ns οὐκ ἐπιλανθανόμενοι, TO δ᾽ ἥτις οὐχ ἱκανῶς TH ΄ὔ / δυνάμενοι διακριβώσασθαι. NE. 2Q. Λέγεις ὀρθῶς. "ΠῚ ay n°? SN / Ὁ. 5 a [2 \ “ μ- Le OUT αὐτο Τοινυν αρ εννόοουμέεν, OTL TOV ορον / \ / \ Χ « / xa\ Ν οὐκ ὀλίγους οὐδὲ πολλούς, οὐδὲ τὸ ἑκούσιον οὐδὲ τὸ » / > \ / > \ a / Ν το ἀκούσιον, οὐδὲ πενίαν οὐδὲ πλοῦτον γίγνεσθαι περὶ 5 “ / 5 4 5 id + 5 αὐτῶν χρεὼν, ἀλλα τινα ἐπιστήμην ; εἴπερ ἀκολου- θήσομεν τοῖς πρόσθεν : NE. ΣΩ. ᾿Αλλὰ μὴν ποιεῖν. σὰ πο 5. ἡ \ TOUTO γε ἀδύνατον μὴ » » Χ an A 7 SE. “EE ἀνάγκης δὴ viv τοῦτο οὕτω σκεπτέον, > / \ / 5 / / / ἐν τίνι ποτὲ τούτων ἐπιστήμη ξυμβαίνει γίγνεσθαι Ν 2 » 3 a N a , \ περὶ ἀνθρώπων ἀρχῆς, σχεδὸν τῆς χαλεπωτατης καὶ μεγίστης κτήσασθαι. / , 5 / σώμεθα τίνας ἀφαιρετέον 2. τὴν μὲν----τὴν δὲ] προειλό- μεθα cannot be repeated here, but some notion contained in this verb, such as ἐθέμεθα, must be supplied. 5. τὸ δ᾽ a7ymis| aan e fameAeschi: Prom. 765: τί δ᾽ ὅντιν᾽ ; 8. τὸν ὅρον] “ The distin- guishing principle of the state.” Cf. supr. τούτοις τοῖς ὅροις. Rep. 8,551 ΘΟ: ὅρος αὐτῆς (τῆς ὀλι- γαρχίας) οἷός ἐστιν. Lege. τ, 626 b: ὃν γὰρ ὅρον ἔθου τῆς εὖ πολι- τευομένης πόλεως. 11. αὐτῶν͵] Neut. 13. τοῦτό γε] Se. ἀκουλουθεῖν τοῖς πρόσθεν. δεῖ γὰρ ἰδεῖν αὐτήν, ἵνα θεα- 3 ἈΝ “ / amo Tov φρονιμου βασι- 16. ἐν τίνι ποτὲ τούτων] For the irony of this, compare the Search for Justice in the State, Rep. 2, 363 ὃ: πλείων ἂν δικαιοσύνη ἐν τῷ μείζονι ἐνείη καὶ ῥάων καταμαθεῖν. Ib. 5.13.6: 17. ἀνθ. ἀρχῆς, τῆς χαλεπωτά- της ---κτήσασθα) There is a strong emphasis on ἀνθρώπων. Cf. Theet. 174 ἃ : δυσκολώτερον δὲ ἐκείνων ζῶον Kai ἐπιβουλότερον ποιμαίνειν τε καὶ βδάλλειν νο- μίζει αὐτούς. See also Xen. Cyrop. I. 1. 18. αὐτήν] Se. τὴν περὶ ἀν. ἄρχ. ἐπιστήμην. + ’ Ισως τοινυν ΠΟΛΙΤΙΚΟΣ. VO »)» ἃ a \ 3 Ν Ν 7 02. λέως, οἱ προσποιοῦνται μεν εἰναι πολιτικοὶ καὶ πεί- 93 . > \ lal θουσι πολλούς, εἰσὶ δὲ ovdapas. NE, ΣΩΏ. Δεῖ γὰρ δὴ ποιεῖν τοῦτο, ὡς ὁ λόγος ἡμῖν προείρηκεν. an 3 a lal , / / HE. Μῶν οὖν δοκεῖ πλῆθος ye ἐν πόλει ταὐτὴν 5 Ἀ / \ “Cy 7 τὴν ἐπιστήμην δυνατὸν εἰναι κτήσασθαι ; NE. ΣΩ. Καὶ πώς; mE. ᾿Αλλ᾽ dpa ἐν χιλιάνδρῳ πόλει δυνατὸν ἑκα- ,. ὮΝ Ν 2 Sa c a / TOV TWAS ἢ Καὶ TEVTYKOVTA αὐτὴν lKAV@S KT1)- σασθαι: NE. 30. ‘Paorn μέντ᾽ ἂν οὕτω γ᾽ εἴη πασῶν τῶν “ 5) N 7 - 3, τεχνῶν" ἴσμεν γὰρ ὅτι χιλίων ἀνδρῶν ἄκροι πεττευ- a7 Ν \ > ° + σ ταὶ τοσοῦτοι πρὸς τοὺς ἐν τοῖς ἄλλοις “λλησιν οὐκ δ , / 7 Ν a ἂν γένοιντο ποτε, μὴ TL δὴ βασιλεῖς ye. δεῖ γὰρ δὴ / Χ \ yf 3 ῇ ΒΩ 9 ¥ Tov γε τὴν βασιλικὴν ἔχοντα ἐπιστήμην, ἂν T ἄρχῃ Ν aN , N ὮΝ y / “ καὶ ἐὰν pln, κατὰ τὸν ἐμπροσθε λόγον ὅμως βασι- XN , λικὸν προσαγορεύεσθαι. = aA ᾽ , clus, VS EE. Καλῶς ἀπεμνημόνευσας. ἑπόμενον δὲ οἶμαι , δὰ δ > bn; 3 Χ δ ΟΣ \ Ν δύ τούτῳ τὴν μὲν ορθην ἀρχὴν περὶ Eva τινὰ καὶ OVO 5. πλῆθός γε] “The people at least.” I.e. “ Whoever else has wisdom, do you think the masses have it?” Cf. Rep. 6, 494 a: φιλόσοφον μὲν apa— πλῆθος ἀδύνατον εἶναι. 13. τοσοῦτοι] Se. ἕκατον ἢ πεν- τήκοντα. πρὸς--“Βλλησιν] “ First-rate as compared with those in the rest of Greece.” Even these few are still judged, therefore, by a relative stand- ard. 14. μή τι δὴ---γε1] Cf. Dem. ΘΙ: ἢ 29: δ᾽ αὐτὸν ἀργοῦντα οὐδὲ τοῖς φίλοις ἐπιτάτ- τειν ὑπὲρ αὐτοῦ τι ποιεῖν, μήτι γε > “᾿ OUK €EVL δὴ τοῖς θεοῖς (Passow, 5. v. μή). Compare Rep. 2, 374: ἢ οὕτω ῥάδιον ὥστε---ἄξια. And for the general tenour of this passage, Rep. 4, 428, Cratyl. 389 a: ὁ νομοθέτης, ὃς δὴ τῶν δημιουρ- γῶν σπανιώτατος ἐν ἀνθρώποις γίγνεται. 16. κατὰ τὸν ἔμπροσθε λόγον] Viz. 259 a. 18. ἑπόμενον ---τούτῳ] These words are in apposition. 19. τὴν μὲν ὀρθὴν ἀρχὴν] The context shews that ἀρχή is used here generally of all authority. Cf. Rep. 1, 342 6: οὐδ᾽ ἄλλος οὐδεὶς ἐν οὐδεμίᾳ ἀρχῆ. περὶ ἕνα τινὰ καὶ δύο] Cf. the hardest of all ae- quisitions, the art of governing men, be- fore we can clear away the rival impostors from the true king, The mul- titude cannot have this science. Nor can fifty in a thousand be found possessed of it. The true rulers, then, if more than one, must needs be very few. And whe- ther they be rich or poor, whe- ther their subjects be willing or unwilling, whether they go- vern with or without law, we must es- teem them as such, so long as they rule according to the prin- ciples of their art, 134 Ν ΄ » σ΄ σ΄ Ν καὶ παντάπασιν ὀλίγους δεῖ ζητεῖν, ὅταν ὀρθὴ γί- p.m γνηται. ΝΕ ΣΟΙ μὴν; MAATOQNOZ — / / SEF C257 x7 ᾽ / ΞΕ, Τούτους δέ ye, ἐάν τε EKOVT@Y ἐὰν TE ἀκον- ΕΣ Δ, ‘ 4 5 Ν yy 5 TMV αρχῶώσιν, εαν TE κατὰ γραμμᾶτα εαν TE ανεὺυ / Ν xX A Ὁ / γραμμάτων, καὶ ἐὰν πλουτοῦντες ἢ TEVOMEVOL, νομι- / “ ΄ «ε 7 ‘ LA « cal στέον. WOTTEP VUV nyovpeba, κατὰ TEXVHVY NVTWOVV ἈΝ 3, \ \ [χά ἀρχὴν ἄρχοντας. τοὺς ἰατροὺς δὲ οὐχ ἥκιστα νενομί- Ἄ « / Cir 37 ec la al καμεν, ἐᾶν TE ἑκόντας ἐὰν TE ἄκοντας ἡμᾶς ἰῶνται, / 3 / 327) a» ’ / τοτέμνοντες ἢ καίοντες ἡ τινα ἄλλην ἀλγηδόνα προσ- ἅπτοντες, καὶ ἐὰν κατὰ γράμματα ἢ χωρὶς γραμμά- NIN / y Ἂ 7 ΄ »ῸΝ τῶν. καὶ EGY TTEVIITES OVTES ἢ πλούσιοι, TTAVT@S οὐδὲν - > / oS Ἂ » fal / YTTOV LAT POVS φαμεν, εῶσπεέερ ἂν ἐπιστάτουντες TEXYNs Phileb. 66 Ὁ : περὶ μέτρον καὶ τὸ μέτριον καὶ ὅποσα χρὴ τοιαῦτα νομίζειν τὴν ἀΐδιον ἡρῆσθαι φύσιν. 6. πλουτοῦντες ἢ πενόμενοι] Cf. τ Ale. 107 ©: ἄν τε πένης ἄν τε πλούσιος 7 ὁ παραινῶν οὐδὲν διοίσει᾽ Αθηναίοις ὅταν----βουλεύων- ται πῶς ἂν ὑγιαίνοιεν, ἀλλὰ ζητοῦ- σιν ἰατρὸν εἶναι τὸν σύμβουλον. νομιστέον---ἄρχοντας] ἄρχοντας is to be taken twice in con- struing. “They must be es- teemed as rulers, whatever rule it be which they conduct ac- cording to art.” 8. νενομίκαμεν͵]ἢ[]ἠ The verb is resumed in φάμεν below. Cf. Soph. 230 ¢, d: νομίζοντες γὰρ ὦ παῖ---πλείω δὲ py, and note. ἰατρούς is to be repeated in thought after νενομίκαμεν : or the verb is perhaps used absolutely, as in νομίζειν θεούς. Cf. Rep. 5, 476 ὦ Gorg. 466 b. “ And physicians more especially we allow to rank as such, whether they heal us with or against our will, by incision or cautery, or by the application of any other pain,” (these words τέμνον- τες---προσάπτοντες are explana- tory of ἄκοντας,) “with or with- out written precepts, in po- verty or wealth,—in every case we call them equally physi- cians, so long as those who minister preside according to art over that to which they minister, and preserve the same by purging and reducing, or by adding flesh, if only they do this for the good of the bodies which they make better from being worse.” (Perhaps however the sentence was at first intended to run νενομίκα- μεν ----φάναι = “‘ We are accus- tomed—to speak,” ἅς.) The meaning is further perplexed by the redundancy of ἂν μόνον in the same construction as ἕωσ- περ av with σώζωσιν. Compare Rep. 7, 529 b: ἐγὼ yap ad— μανθάνῃ. ᾿ | ΠΟΛΙΤΊΚΟΣ. 195 / 5) y , / "} iN ᾽ , καθαίροντες εἴτε ἀλλως ἰσχναίνοντες εἴτε καὶ αὐξά- a‘ / pyres δ, Ὁ vad ἴω a , 7 νοντες, ἂν μόνον ἐπ᾿ ἀγαθῷ τῷ τῶν σωμάτων, βελτίω lal / td / o ποίιουντες ἐκ χέεέίρονων, σώζωσιν οι θεραπεύοντες ἕκα- Ν / , / € 9 Ν στοι τὰ θεραπευόμενα. ταύτῃ θήσομεν, ὡς οἰμαι, καὶ > »” A “ > \ 3 7 » va Ν οὐκ ἄλλῃ, τοῦτον ὅρον ὀρθὸν εἶναι μονον ἰατρικῆς καὶ 5 ἄλλης ἡστινοσοῦν ἀρχῆς. NE. 20. Κομιδῇ μὲν οὖν. μ---ἰὶ ᾽ a \ : A ε "7 ͵, GE. ᾿Αναγκαῖον δὴ καὶ πολιτειῶν, ὡς ἔοικε, ταύ- > Ν 7 cy ἧς / / > τὴν ὀρθὴν διαφερόντως εἶναι καὶ μονὴν πολιτείαν, ἐν @ A ἘΠ Ν ey > a ᾽ ΄ ἢ τις GV EVPLOKOL τοὺς ἀρχονταὰς ἀληθῶς ἐπιστήμονας κ᾿ > > , ΄ \ , 27 καὶ οὐ δοκοῦντας μόνον, ἐᾶν TE KATA νόμους ἐᾶν TE A / A Cee Oe Ἃ ἄνευ νόμων ἄρχωσι, καὶ ἑκόντων καὶ ἀκόντων, ἢ πε- / ‘ a % 7 e 7 > A YOMEVOL ἢ πλουτοῦντες" τούτων ὑπολογιστέον οὐδὲν 3 a 3 » 3 7 » / οὐδαμῶς εἶναι κατ᾽ οὐδεμίαν ὀρθότητα. NE. 2Q. Καλώς. — Ν 7 , 3 , \ GE. Καὶ ἐάν τέ ye ἀποκτιννύντες Twas “Ὁ Ν ἢ καὶ » fe , - Χ ΄ 3, ἐκβάλλοντες καθαίρωσιν ἐπ᾿ ἀγαθῷ τὴν πολιν, εἴτε ΩΝ / © / a Υ͂ / καὶ ἀποικίας οἷον σμήνη μελιττῶν ἐκπέμποντές ποι 4. ταύτῃ----ἄλλῃ] “ This, and no other, will be our decision, that ”—. 5. τοῦτον ὅρον] Se. τὸ τέχνῃ καὶ ἐπ᾿ ἀγαθῷ ἄρχειν τῶν ἀρχομένων. The doctrine of this passage coincides with Hege. 45 cf. esp. 712 e: ἃς δ᾽ ὠνομάκαμεν νῦν, οὐκ εἰσὶ πολιτεῖαι, πολέων δὲ οἰκήσεις δεσποζομένων τε καὶ δουλευουσῶν μέρεσιν ἑαυτῶν Ib. γ13 Ὁ: ἀρχή τε καὶ οἴκησις----ἐπὶ Κρόνου pad εὐδαί- μῶν, is μίμημα ἔχουσά ἐστιν ἥτις τῶν νῦν ἄριστα οἰκεῖται. Ib. 715 b. Compare the rejection of the false pleasures in Phileb. 51 a. τοῦτον---ἀρχῆη}] This clause is an explanatory resumption of ταύτῃ. τισίν. 9. καὶ μόνην πολιτείαν] “ And alone deserving of the name.” 11. δοκοῦντας] I. 6. ἐπιστή- μονας δοκοῦντας, like δεινότητες δοκοῦσαι in Theet. 176 d. 12. καὶ----καὶ] “Whether—or.” Note the variety of expres- s1on. 13. ὑπολογιστέον] Cf. Rep. I, 341 d: οὐδὲν, οἶμαι, τοῦτο ὑπολογιστέον, ὅτι πλεῖ ἐν TH νηΐ, οὐδ᾽ ἐστὶ κλητέος ναύτης" οὐ γὰρ κατὰ τὸ πλεῖν κυβερνήτης καλεῖται ἀλλὰ κατὰ τὴν τέχνην καὶ τὴν τῶν ναυτῶν ἀρχήν. 16. ἀποκτίννυντες ---- ἐκβάλλον- tes] Cf. Gorg. 468. 17. καθαίρωσιν] Cf. Legg. 5, 735, Rep. 7, 540 6. ο σι whatever that art may be. That is the only true form of go- vernment, which has scientific rulers. And as the physician is no less esteemed, whether he heal us with or without our will and by whatever means ; so the ruler is no less a ruler, though his subjects be unwilling, if he suc- ceed in preserving them and making them better men ; whe- ther he have re- course to banish- ment, or emizration, or the im- portation of fresh citizens. Young Socrates is scandalized by the pro- position that there may be good go- vermment without law. He is answered, that al- though le- gislation is certainly a function of the king, yet the best , conceiy- able go- vernment would be the supre- macy, not of the laws, σι 190 ΠΛΑΤΏΝΟΣ ee - / -“ » / 4 AL σμικροτέραν ποιῶσιν, ἢ τινας ἐπεισαγομενοί ποθεν p. ay’ y 357 / ΄- > ‘\ 57 ἄλλους ἔξωθεν, πολίτας ποιοῦντες, αὑτὴν αὔξωσιν, aS Ἃ > / Ν a / tf ἕωσπερ ἂν ἐπιστήμῃ καὶ τῷ δικαίῳ προσχρώμενοι, / > / / a \ / σώζοντες, εκ χείρονος βελτίω ποιῶσι κατα δύναμιν, / vA Ν \ \ / cd Cr. 5STAUTNVY ΤΟΤΕ Καὶ KATH τοὺς Τοιουτοὺυς ορους μιν , \ 53 td / “ \ μόνην ὀρθὴν πολιτείαν εἶναι ῥητέον. ὅσας de ἄλλας / » / > Sy 7 / Ν λέγομεν, οὐ γνησίας οὐδ᾽ ὄντως οὔσας λεκτέον, ἀλλὰ μεμιμημένας ταύτην, ἃς. μὲν ὡς εὐνόμους λέγομεν, > \ ! Ν \ 7 Ν \ ἐπὶ Ta καλλίω, Tas δὲ ἄλλας ἐπὶ τὰ αἰσχίονα με- 10 μιμῆσθαι. ΝΕ. 2Q. Τὰ μὲν ἄλλα, ὦ ξένε, μετρίως ἔοικεν ‘end Ν \ Ἂς SA / fal yy εἰρῆσθαι: τὸ δὲ Kal ἄνευ νόμων δεῖν ἄρχειν χαλε- / ’ / > / πώτερον ἀκούειν ἐρρηθη. ΞΕ. Σμικρόν γε ἔφθης με ἐρόμενος, ὦ Σώκρατες. ay i“ / a / 5 ἔμελλον yap σε διερωτήσειν ταῦτα πότερον ἀποδέχει 7 yy Ν / a / lo) \ πάντα, ἢ τι καὶ δυσχεραίνεις τῶν λεχθέντων" νῦν δὲ + XN (vf a / Ν ἣν val lal ἤδη φανερὸν ore τοῦτο βουλησομεθα τὸ περὶ τῆς τῶν δ᾽ ’ ᾽ i? Ε) / lol « ΄σ ἄνευ νόμων ἀρχόντων ὀρθότητος διελθεῖν ἡμᾶς. I. σμικροτέραν ποιῶσιν] This answers to ἰσχναίνοντες above. 3. ἐπιστήμῃ καὶ τῷ δικαίῳ] Which in regard to politics are the same. Cf. Thezet. 150 a: ἀλλὰ διὰ τὴν ἄδικόν τε καὶ ἄτεχνον ξυναγωγήν κ.τ.λ. ie λέγομεν] Se. πολιτείας. 9. ἐπὶ τὰ αἰσχίονα] ΟἿ. Phileb. 40 6: ἡδοναὶ μεμιμη- μέναι τὰς ἀληθεῖς ἐπὶ τὰ γελοι- ότερα. μεμιμῆσθαι | There is a return from the participial to the direct construction. In the above sentences there is assumed the same analogy be- tween the individual and the state, the body natural and the body politic, which is largely applied in the Republic. The notion of “the physician in- creasing the body” is obviously suggested by the parallel of the state. 12, τὸ δὲ---ἐρρήθη] The formal courtesy of these words, like much else in this dialogue, ap- proaches the style of the Laws. 17. θουλησόμεθα---διελθεῖν ἡμᾶς] The first person being used for the second (cf. Thezet. sub fin., κυοῦμεν. Supr. 283 6: ap’ av βουλοίμεθα), the subject of Bou- λησόμεθα is not the same as that of διελθεῖν, hence the accus. ἡμᾶς. τῆς--- ὀρθότητος] “ The right- ΠΟΛΙΤΙΚΟΣ. 597 NE. ΣΩ. Πῶς γὰρ οὔ; A o A a SE. 'Τρόπον τινὰ μέντοι δῆλον ὅτι τῆς βασιλικῆς > Ν « 7 Ν τ > \ / ἐστὶν ἢ vomoberiKn? τὸ δ᾽ ἄριστον οὐ τοὺς vopous > 3, Ν Ν ’ὔ ἐστὶν ἰσχύειν, ἀλλ᾽ ἄνδρα τὸν μετὰ φρονήσεως βασι- / 5 © Auxov. οἰσθ᾽ orn; ι NE. ΣΩ. Πῇ δὴ λέγεις: — ov , » , , ¥ EE. Ὅτι νύμος οὐκ av ποτε δύναιτο τὸ τε ἄριστον Ν Χ i? 3 lo lal “ Χ \ καὶ TO δικαιότατον ἀκριβῶς πᾶσιν ἅμα περιλαβὼν TO ΄ὔ e \ 5 Me ~ βελτιστον ἐπιτάττειν αἱ yap ἀνομοιότητες τῶν TE ness of rulers without laws.” I. e. How it can ever be right to govern without laws ? 2. μέντοι] “ Certainly.” Giv- ing assent to something which qualifies the foregoing asser- tion ; as in Soph. 245 Ὁ: ἀλη- θέστατα μέντοι λέγεις. Symp. 176 b: τοῦτο μέντοι εὖ λέγεις. 4. ἀλλ᾽ ἄνδρα --- βασιλικόν] “ But the man who, having wisdom, is capable of sovereign rule.” 5. ὅπῃ] Se. ἀριστόν ἐστιν. η. Ὅτι] ““ Because.” Ὅτι νόμος οὐκ ἂν δύναιτοϊ ΟἿ, Arist. Pol. ΠῚ 10: ᾿Αρχὴ δ᾽ ἐστὶ τῆς ζητήσεως αὕτη, πότερον συμφέρει μᾶλλον ὑπὸ τοῦ ἀρίστου ἀνδρὸς βασιλεύεσθαι ἢ ὑπὸ τῶν ἀρίστων νόμων. νομίζουσι συμφέρειν βασιλεύεσθαι τὸ καθόλου μόνον ὁ νόμος λέγειν, ἀλλ’ οὐ πρὸς τὰ προσπίπτοντα Δοκεῖ δὴ τοῖς > ~ ΄ ἐπιτάττειν" ὥστ᾽ ἐν ὁποιᾳοῦν τέχνῃ " > , τὸ κατὰ γράμματα ἄρχειν ἠλίθιον. Κ ἊΝ 15 Αἱ , \ \ U αἱ ἐν Αἰγύπτῳ μετὰ τὴν τετρή ae ς ἘΠ ΤΣ ΠΕ τα μερον κινεῖν ἔξεστι τοῖς ἰατροῖς" ἐὰν δὲ πρότερον, ἐπὶ τῷ αὐτοῦ , 3 r r κινδύνῳ. ᾿Αλλὰ μὴν κἀκεῖνον δεῖ ς , A , ‘A , ὑπάρχειν τὸν λόγον τὸν καθόλου κ + > i τοῖς ἄρχουσι κρεῖττον δ᾽ ᾧ μὴ πρόσεστι τὸ παθητικὸν ὅλως, ἢ ᾧ συμφιές. ~ ‘ > ΄ ~ To μεν οὖν νόμῳ τοῦτο ε ε οὐχ ὑπάρχει, Ψυχὴν δ᾽ ἀνθρωπίνην ἀνάγκη τοῦτ᾽ ἔχειν πᾶσαν. "ANN ἴσως ἄν φαίη τις ὡς ἀντὶ τούτου βουλεύσεται περὶ τῶν καθ᾽ ἕκαστα κάλλιον. Aristotle concludes that there must be a lawgiver and laws: which, however, must not be absolute where they do not rightly apply. And there must obviously be an au- thority to determine cases not provided for by the laws. Should this authority be many, few, or one? The many are more difficult to corrupt—as much water is less easily fouled than littl—but are less likely to care for the preservation of existing laws. One is better than a few, because the few are hable to division. See Plat. Legg. 9, 875. 7. τό τε ἄριστον----ἐπιτάττειν The dative πᾶσιν depends equally on περιλαβὼν and ἐπι- τάττειν. Having comprehended exactly what is noblest and most righteous for all, at once to appoint what is best for all. 9. ai yap ἀνομοιότητες ἡντι- νοῦν] “ For the dissimilarities both of men and actions, and what may be termed the abso- lute unrest of human things, ὡς T but of a wise and soverelon will, The reason 15 that a fixed law can never be exactly applicable to the infi- nite variety and com- plexity of human affairs. 5 Law is like a stupid and wilful man, who insists at all hazards, in spite of circum- stances, on obedience to his com- mands. 15 W hence arises,then, the neces- sity of ma- king laws? 20 This is shewn by an ex- ample. 138 > / Ν lal / Ν Ν / / ἀνθρώπων καὶ TOV πράξεων καὶ τὸ μηδέποτε μηδέν, Ρ. 26 ε Μ“ἷ > a «ς / 4 σ > / Iat WS €7TOS ELTTELV, NTVXLAV αγειν Τῶν ἀνθρωπίνων οὐδεν cal ¢ ΄σ΄ » > \ Ἂν .« ’ὔ’ Ν 3 Ν , ἐῶσιν ἀπλοῦν εν οὐδενὶ περι ἀπαντῶν Και ἐπὶ TAVTA \ , > / xm OC an aA τὸν χρόνον ἀποφαίνεσθαι τέχνην οὐδ᾽ ἡντινοῦν. ταῦτα δὴ συγχωροῦμέν που ; ΝΠ ΣΟ, 7 μην: « vad Ν HE. Τὸν δέ γε νόμον ὁρῶμεν σχεδὸν ἐπ᾽ αὐτὸ Lal / “ \ 577 3 / Ν τοῦτο ξυντείνοντα, ὥσπερ τινὰ ἄνθρωπον αὐθάδη καὶ » ‘a Ν / \ an lal Ν Ν ἀμαθῆ καὶ μηδένα μηδὲν ἐῶντα ποιεῖν παρὰ τὴν 3, / \ XN / δ Ἐς Δ. ἄρα τῷ ξυμβαίνῃ βέλτιον παρὰ Tov λογον ὃν avTos > 7 ETETAEED. NE. 2Q. ᾿Αληθῆ: ποιεῖ yap ἀτεχνῶς, καθάπερ ΠΛΑΤΩΝΟΣ ec a 7 yD) las / > Vf / 10 €AUTOU τάξιν, μηδ ETEPOT AV μηδένα, μηδ᾽ av τι νέον Sy an ε ,ὔ ς« α ΕἸΣ εἰρῆκας νυν, O νομος ἡμιν εκαστοις. » an DS 2 SS \ jf EE. Οὐκοῦν ἀδύνατον εὖ ἔχειν πρὸς τὰ μηδέποτε ε vad NS \ ἊΝ / ε a ἁπλᾶ TO Ola παντὸς γιγνόμενον ἁπλοῦν ; NE. >Q. Κινδυνεύει. Q , , > 5 ᾽ A = ZE. Διὰ τί δή ποτ᾽ οὖν ἀναγκαῖον νομοθετεῖν, 3 , 5 > / « 7 5 Tj / ἐπειδηπερ οὐκ ὀρθότατον ὁ νόμος ; ἀνευρετέον τούτου XN / τὴν αἰτίαν. NE. 50. Ti uty; | 5) a Ν τ 5 > / - Se. =. Οὐκοῦν καὶ παρ ὑμῖν εἰσι τινες, οἷαι καὶ ἐν (join μηδὲν τῶν ἀνθρωπίνων,) suffer no art whatever to lay down in any matter any simple rule which shall be applicable to all cases for all time.” Cf. Theeet. 180 a. 4. ἐπ᾿ αὐτὸ τοῦτο] Se. τὸ ἁπλοῦν τι ἀποφήνασθαι περὶ ἀπάν- τῶν καὶ ἐπὶ πάντα τὸν χρόνον. ἐπ᾿ αὐτὸ τοῦτο ξυντείνοντα] “ Bending all his energies to this.” 8. ὥσπερ k.T.A.| Hi. g. the Creon of Sophocles. Cf. Antig. 795-723. 10. μηδ᾽ av τι----ἐπέταξεν] “ Not even if some fresh thing, differ- ent from the terms of his en- actment, should happen to be better for some individual.” For συμβαίνῃ βέλτιον, cf. infr. 295 C: συμβαινόντων ἄλλων Bed- τιόνων τοῖς κάμνουσιν. 16. διὰ παντὸς] Se. τοῦ χρόνον. 22. Οὐκοῦν καὶ παρ᾽ ὑμῖν] This is one of the places where we c d | ἡ ! a] ΠΟΛΙΤΙΚΟΣ. 139 y+ / > > , ", 94. ἄλλαις πόλεσιν, ἀθρύων ἀνθρώπων ἀσκήσεις, εἴτε Ν ,ὔ 3, 3, o πρὸς δρόμον εἴτε πρὸς ἄλλο τι, φιλονεικίας ἕνεκα ; NE. 2Q. Καὶ πάνυ γε πολλαί. μ- ἴω ἴω HE. Φέρε νῦν ἀναλάβωμεν πάλιν μνήμῃ τὰς τῶν 4 / , ᾽ va / > τέχνῃ γυμναζόντων ἐπιτάξεις EV ταῖς τοιαύταις ἀρ- χαΐῖς. NE. ΣΩ. Τὸ ποῖον ; al ͵ vay > - lal » EE. Ὅτι λεπτουργεῖν οὐκ ἐγχωρεῖν ἡγοῦνται καθ a “ a 7 Ν a « 7 ενα EKAOTOY, T@ σώματι TO 7 POO1)KOV EKAOT@ 7 POO ~ 7 3 \ / / “ « ΒΝ Ν τάττοντες, ἀλλὰ παχύτερον οἴονται δεῖν ὡς ἐπὶ τὸ miss the dramatic liveliness of Plato’s earlier style. The scene of these dialogues is a paleestra. But this can hardly have been present to the author’s mind when these words were written. Unless the Stranger is sup- posed, like the philosophers in the Theztetus, to be wholly ignorant of what is going on around him. I. ἀθρόων --- ἀσκήσει) Cf. Legg. 12, 942 ὁ: ἀθρόον ἀεὶ καὶ ἅμα καὶ κοινὸν τὸν βίον ὃ τι μά- λιστα πᾶσι πάντων γίγνεσθαι. ἀσκήσεις The abstract word is used, as supr. 264 b: τιθα- σείαις τῶν ἰχθύων --- χηνοβωτίας --γερανοβωτίας. 4. ἀναλάβωμεν ---- μνήμῃ,: CF. Phileb. 34 b. 5. ἀρχαῖς] The word is used in the most general sense. Cf. Rep. 1, 345 €: ἔν τε πολιτικῇ καὶ ἰδιωτικῇἢ ἀρχῆ. Ib. 343 d: πᾶσαν ἀρχὴν, καθ᾽ ὅσον ἀρχή. And for the plur., οἵ. Prot. 354 Ὁ: σωτήριαι καὶ ἄλλων ἀρχαί. Supr. 293 ¢, alib. 7. Τὸ ποῖον ;| spect ?” 8. λεπτουργεῖν] “To work in * “ In what re- T minute detail.” The word is used above, 262 b, of dividing too minutely at the beginning of an inquiry. The only other passage where the word oc- curs in classical Greek is Eur. Hippol. 923, where it is ap- plied to subtlety in discourse. Another coincidence between the language of these dia- logues and that of the trage- dians. 10. παχύτερον] Opposed to λεπτουργεῖν. “In larger masses. More in the gross.” Cf. supr. 277 a-c. Contrast Aristotle’s view, that the work of the gymnast and physician regards the individual—padrkov δ᾽ ἴσως τὴν τοῦδε, Kad’ ἕκαστον yap ἰα- Eth. Nic. I. 4. παχύτερον --- ὡς ἐπὶ τὸ πολὺ] We find an echo of these words in the language of Aristotle, ἘΠ INGE 1 τς: \ 4 0:9 ΄ ΄ περὶ τοιούτων καὶ ἐκ τοιούτων λέ- , TPEVEL, : Εἰ ἀγαπητὸν οὖν γοντας παχυλῶς καὶ τύπῳ τἀληθὲς ἐνδείκνυσθαι, καὶ περὶ τῶν ὡς ἐπὶ τὸ πολὺ καὶ ἐκ τοιούτων λέ- γοντας τοιαῦτα καὶ συμπεραίνε- σθαι. Ὁ “- σι He who trains men for athletic contests does not adapt his precepts to each indi- vidual case, (that would be impos- sible,) but is con- tented with preseribing general rules. 140 ΠΛΑΤΩΝΟΣ Ἀ τας \ Ν ΄- Cal “ πολὺ καὶ ἐπὶ πολλοὺς τὴν τοῦ λυσιτελοῦντος τοῖς p / lal ἾΊ Se σώμασι ποιεῖσθαι τάξιν. NE. 2Q. Καλώς. Ν / Ν » / ΄ / mE. Aw δὴ ye καὶ ἴσους πόνους viv διδόντες 5 ΄ “ \ ᾽ a “ \ Ν , 5 ἀθρόοις ἅμα μὲν ἐξορμῶσιν, ἅμα δὲ Kal καταπαύουσι / / 7 “ Ν 3.8 7 δρόμου καὶ πάλης Kal πάντων TOV κατὰ τὰ σώματα [2 πόνων. NE. ΣΩ. Ἔστι ταῦτα. ‘ Lev \ ,ὔ / (3 7 Ν “ poe SE. Καὶ τὸν νομοθέτην τοίνυν ἡγώμεθα, Tov ταῖ- giver, being 5 7 5 7 es 7 , τ ἐΞ unable to ro σὰν ἀγέλαις ἐπιστατήσοντα τοῦ δικαίου πέρι καὶ τῶν provide for every case, enactswhat ee ὃ ἢ Ἢ 4 a Pec isgenerally σέσθαι πᾶσιν ἀθρόοις προστάττοντα ἀκριβῶς ἐνὶ tor the mpos ἀλλήλους ξυμβολαίων, μή ποθ᾽ ἱκανὸν γενή- € 7 Ν la 3 ΄ best. ἑκάστῳ TO προσῆκον ἀποδιδόναι. Ν a ΄ NE. 2Q. To γοῦν εἰκὸς. μ--ἰ Ν A a a 53 Ν διὰ 15 ΚΞ δ. ᾿Αλλὰ τὸ τοῖς πολλοῖς γε, οἶμαι, καὶ ὡς ἐπὶ \ \ ε , 7 XN TO πολὺ καί πως οὑτωσὶ παχυτέρως ἑκάστοις TOV ΄ , N 3 , ‘ > \ Ν > νόμον θησει, καὶ ἐν ypappaowv ἀποδιδοὺς καὶ ἐν 3 7 / Ne, n ἀγραμμάτοις, πατρίοις δὲ ἔθεσι νομοθετῶν. NE. 2Q. Ὀρθώς. — 9 an 7 A \ ¥ X , He who 20 EE. ᾿Ορθῶς μέντοι. πῶς yap ἂν τις ikavos ye- could pro- 5 910 3 , σ \ / SN vide for VolT av ποτε, ὦ Σώκρατες, ὥστε διὰ βίου ἀεὶ παρα- every case, 7 ates 5 , \ could do καθήμενος ἑκάστῳ Ov ἀκριβείας προστάττειν TO προσ- 50, while ~ = x Ν “ “- ΡΞ κ᾿ present, NKOV ; ἐπεὶ TOUT ἂν δυνατὸς ὧν, ὡς οἶμαι, TOV τὴν 1. τὴν --- τάξ.] “To pre- 12. maow] The dative de- scribe what is profitable for the body.” 4. νῦν] “As the matter stands.” Cf. supr. 291 e. 9. ταῖσιν ayedas| The lonic form of the dat. plur. occurs four times in this dialogue (supr. 261 6, διπλασίοισι : 201 a, τοιούτοισιν : infr. 304 6, ἑπομέ- νοισιν), and often in the Timzeus and Laws. pends partly on ἱκανὸν and partly on προστάττοντα ἀποδι- δόναι. 15. τὸ τοῖς πολλοῖς γε] Se. προσῆκον. 16. ἑκάστοις] tion.” 17. ἀποδιδοὺς “ Exhibiting ; prescribing.” Cf. supr. ἀποδι- δόναι. “ To each na- ΠΟΛΙΤΊΚΟΣ. 141 Ν A ” > ΄, 4 7 95. βασιλικὴν ὁστισοῦν ὄντως ἐπιστήμην εἰληφότων, σχολῇ ποτ᾽ ἂν ἑαυτῷ θεῖτ᾽ ἐμποδίσματα γράφων τοὺς λεχθέντας τούτους νόμους. NE. ΣΏ. Ἔκ τῶν νῦν γοῦν, ὦ ἕένε, εἰρημένων. EE. Μᾶλλον δέ γε, ὦ βέλτιστε, ἐκ τῶν μελλόν- 5 των ῥηθήσεσθαι. NE. 2Q. Τίνων δή; ΞΕ. Τῶν τοιῶνδε. εἴπωμεν γὰρ δὴ πρός γε ἡμᾶς αὐτοὺς ἰατρὸν μέλλοντα ἢ καί τινα γυμναστικὸν ἀπο- lal \ 5 4 a / / c δημεῖν καὶ ἀπέσεσθαι τῶν θεραπευομένων TvYXVOY, ὡς 10 7 ΄ \ / / \ οἴοιτο, χρόνον, μὴ μνημονεύσειν οἰηθέντα τὰ προστα- / Χ / Ἃ ἊΝ ’ὔ c χθέντα τοὺς γυμναζομένους ἢ τοὺς κάμνοντας, ὑπο- / 7 Ων 5. » ΄ ΕΝ a μνήματα γράφειν ἂν ἐθέλειν αὐτοῖς, ἢ πῶς ; NE. 2Q. Οὕτως. HE. Ti δέ; εἰ παρὰ δόξαν ἐλάττω χρόνον ἀπο- is , χὰ ΄ CYS) 3 EN “-“ Ν δημήσας ἔλθοι πάλιν, ap οὐκ ἂν παρ᾽ ἐκεῖνα τὰ γράμματα τολμήσειεν ἄλλα ὑποθέσθαι, ξυμβαινον- v / a , N , ᾿ Tov ἄλλων βελτιόνων τοῖς κάμνουσι διὰ πνεύματα ἢ aN \ \ / “ ᾽ Χ , τι καὶ ἄλλο παρὰ τὴν ἐλπίδα τῶν ἐκ Διὸς ἑτέρως 3. τοὺς λεχθέντας τούτους νό- pous|] Cf. infr. 299 c: εἰς δή τι δικαστήριον, where there is the same distant way of speaking of what is familiarly known. 8. εἴπωμεν---ἰατρὸν κιτ.λ.1 Cf. Rep. 6, 488: νοήσωμεν --- vav- κληρον κιτιλ. Theet. 159 Ὁ: λέγωμεν δὴ ἐμέ τε καὶ σὲ κιτ.λ. “Tet us put to ourselves the case of a physician, ὅσο. 9. ἀποδημεῖν] The passage recals the expression of Scrip- ture: “ Going into a far coun- try.” .The case of Solon is probably in Plato’s mind. 10. ὡς οἴοιτο] The optative is similarly used in putting a supposed case, Rep. 2, 360 b: οὐδεὶς ἂν γένοιτο, ὡς δόξειεν, ov- Tas ἀδαμάντινος. 13. ἐθέλειν) Governed by εἴπωμεν, which must be repeated in thought. 15. Ti δέ ; εἰ] Bodl. τί δὴ. 16. παρ᾽ ἐκεῖνα----ὑποθέσθαι | “To suggest other things not contemplated in his former prescriptions.” 18. διὰ πνεύματα---γενόμενα | “On account of winds or other heavenly influences which have come unexpectedly out of the usual course.” Note the alter- nation of words. by word of mouth, and would not need to hamper himself with writ- ten laws. But if such anone were going into a far coun- try, he would pre- scribe, like a wise phy- sician, what on the whole was likely to be for the best. Yet, should the physi- cian come back sooner than he expected, would he not venture to contra- vene his own ordi- nance, if some un- expected change of climate or some other circum- stance made a different course ex- pedient for his pa- tients ? And were the law- giver, or another like him, to come again on earth, shall he not be Io 142 a > , 7 “- 4 ἃ ε “ πως τῶν εἰωθότων γενόμενα, καρτερῶν δ᾽ ἂν ἡγοῖτο P- 2) MAATQNOZ rad ‘ > 7 Ν > σ΄, 4 / δεῖν μὴ ἐκβαίνειν τὰ apxaie ποτε νομοθετηθέντα punTeE Φ ΩΝ , 3, / Ν / “ αὐτὸν προστάττοντα ἄλλα PTE τὸν κάμνοντα ἕτερα ad \ \ / “- «ς lal 7 τολμῶντα παρὰ τὰ γραφέντα δρᾶν, ως TAUVTH OVTA > \ Ν 6 ΄ὔ \ \ « 4 If 4 5ἰατρικὰ καὶ ὑγιεινά, Ta δὲ ἑτέρως γιγνόμενα νοσώδη » »Μἶ > ἴω Ἂς “ vy 5» ΤΕ καὶ ουκ εντέεχνᾶ 5 ἢ πᾶν TO TOLOUTOV EV Ye ΕΖ Γ- / “- ν > la / Ν “ στημῃ ξυμβαῖνον καὶ ἀληθεῖ τέχνῃ περὶ ἅπαντα ΄ / Ἂ ε , 7 lal ΄ παντάπασι γέλως av Ο μέγιστος γίγνοιτο τῶν TOLOU- / τῶν νομοθετημάτων 5 NE. ΣΏ. Παντάπασι μὲν οὖν. ΄σ Ν 3, Ν EE. Τῷ δὲ τὰ δίκαια δὴ καὶ ἄδικα καὶ καλὰ καὶ > \ Ν » \ Ν \ / Ν yy αἰσχρὰ καὶ ἀγαθὰ καὶ κακὰ γράψαντι καὶ ἀγραῴφα / Qn Lal > 7 > / «ε ἤ νομοθετησαντι ταῖς τῶν ἀνθρώπων ἀγέλαις, ὁπόσαι \ Uy ΄ , \ \ ΄- κατὰ πόλιν ἐν ἑκάσταις νομεύονται κατὰ τοὺς τῶν I. καρτερῶν ---νομοθετημάτων ; | “ But would think it right, both for himself and the sick man, stubbornly to avoid trans- gressing the ancient laws once given, he giving no new com- mandment, and his patient not daring to do otherwise than was prescribed, accounting this the medicinal and wholesome course, any deviation from which is inartistic and un- wholesome: or would every such proceeding in the case of a science or genuine art, in any circumstances involve such lawgiving in the most utter ridicule ?” 2. Ta ἀρχαῖα vopobernberta | 1. 6. τὰ ἀπ᾿ ἀρχῆς voy. The par- ticiple, as in Soph. Trach. τ: ἀρχαῖος φανείς. 6. ἢ πᾶν τὸ τοιοῦτον---τέχνῃ] What is at first expressed ge- , ΄ x « Ν 7 ΄ y Isypayavrwy νόμους, ἂν ὁ μετὰ τέχνης γράψας ἢ nerally in the nominative is resumed in the genitive in a more particular form, by a change of construction like that in Hom. Il. Z. 510: 6 & ἀγλαϊῆφι πεποιθὼς ῥίμφα € γοῦνα φέρει. Pheedr. 229 6. Cf. Rep. 4,434 ἃ, 7, 521 a, Legg. 6, 751 b: rov—dpyas ἀνεπιτηδείους ἐπιστῆσαι ----γέλως ἂν πάμπολυς ξυμβαίνοι. Pheedo 69 ο, Lach. 185 a, Xen. Mem. I. 2. 7. ἀληθεῖ τέχνῃ True art, either as opposed to ἐμπειρία, mere practice, which pretends to the name of art, or as op- posed to the profession with- out the reality of art. περὶ ἅπαντα belongs to ξύμ- βαινον, παντάπασι ἴο γίγνοιτο. 14. νομεύονται] ‘Are herded,” but with a play on νόμος. Cf. Lege. 4,714 a: τὴν τοῦ νοῦ δια- νομὴν ἐπονομάζοντες νόμον. } | : ΠΟΛΙΤΓΊΚΟΣ. 142 Ny “ σ“ 4.17 . »»" \ \ a 195. Tis ἕτερος ὅμοιος ἀφίκηται, μὴ ἐξέστω On Tapa ταῦτα eg , Ὰ lal Ν > / »ῸΝ οὔ. ἐτερα προσταττειν ; ἢ καὶ τοῦτο τὸ ἀπόρρημα οὐδεν fe ν Ἃ » 7) a > θ , x vad / - TTOV ἂν EKELYOU ΤΊ) αλῇ ειᾷ γέλοιον φαίνοιτο 3 NE SO. Τὶ μήν: μ- 3 53 a , 7 Ν \ HE. Οἰσθ᾽ οὖν ἐπὶ τῷ τοιούτῳ λόγον τὸν Tapas -“ σ΄ / τῶν πολλῶν λεγόμενον 5 ΝΠ SQ. ΞΕ. Καὶ 3 lal lal ᾽ “ Οὐκ ἐννοῶ νῦν γ᾽ οὕτως. μὴν εὐπρεπής. φασὶ γὰρ δὴ δεῖν, εἴ τις 7,ὔ \ \ a yy / ἢ γιγνώσκει παρὰ τοὺς τῶν ἐμπροσθεν βελτίους νομους, rn \ « a / “ἤ / νομοθετεῖν τὴν ἑαυτοῦ πόλιν ἕκαστον πείσαντα, δὲ μή. NE. 3Q. Τί οὖν; οὐκ ὀρθῶς ; EE. Ἴσως. ἂν δ᾽ οὖν μὴ πείθων τις βιάζηται τὸ / > / / 5, “ / ay \ βέλτιον, ἀπόκριναι, τί τοὔνομα τῆς βίας ἐσται; My / \ a 3 ΄ μέντοι πω, περὶ δὲ τῶν ἔμπροσθεν πρότερον. NE. SQ. Ποῖον δὴ λέγεις ; I. τις ἕτερος ὅμοιος] 1. 6. A new lawgiver. Compare Legg. 11,026 α: ἢ μὴν παρόντα καὶ ζῶντα αὐτὸν τὸν νομοθέτην μήποτ᾽ ἂν ἀναγκάσαι πράττειν οὕτω. μὴ ἐξέστω δὴ] “~ Must he really not be permitted?” Cf. Rep. 1, 357: μὴ ἀποκρίνωμαι ; Lege. 7, 800 6: ἐπανερωτῶ ----εἰ Sane ἡμῖν----κείσθω. Ib.6,719 €: πότερον ---- μηδὲν ---- προσαγο- ρεύῃ---ἀλλὰ----τρέπηται :---ἔξεσται corr. F. 2. 7—aivorro :] “ Or would this prohibition not seem in reality to the full as ridiculous as the former one ?” ‘8. φασὶ yap δὴ de] Cf. Lege. 784 ¢. Pseudo-Zaleue. ap. Stob. (Mullach. p. 543 b): ᾿Εὰν δέ τις βούληται τῶν κειμένων νόμων κινεῖν ἢ ἄλλον εἰσφέρειν νόμον, εἰς βρόχον εἴρας τὸν τρά- xndov λεγέτω τοῖς πολλοῖς περὶ καὶ ἐὰν μὲν ψηφιζομένων δόξη λελύσθαι τὸν νόμον ἢ ὑπάρ- χειν τὸν εἰσφερόμενον, καὶ αὐτὸν ἀθῷον εἶναι" ἐὰν δὲ ὁ προ πα DOE pales, δοκῇ καλῶς ἔχειν ἢ ὁ εἰσ- φερόμενος, ἢ ἄδικος, τεθνάναι τὸν κινοῦντα ἢ εἰσφέροντα νόμον, ἐπι- σπασθέντος τοῦ βρόχου. 9. τῶν ἔμπροσθεν] men of former time. 10. νομοθετεῖν----μή] “That he should legislate when he has persuaded his own state, but not otherwise.” 15. περὶ δὲ τῶν ἔμπροσθεν πρό- τερον] “ But answer me first with regard to our previous instances, 1. 6. the physician, &e.” αὐτοῦ" Of the permitted to change his own appoint- ment ? The cur- rent saying is specious enough : “Let aman wil over his state to accept ἄλλως Io new laws, and then let him im- pose them.” But sup- ose he force them on her ac- ceptance, what shall 15 be said? If a physi- cian forced a patient to do con- trary to prescrip- tion, and the treat- ment so forced were best, would it be called unwhole- some treat- ment ? No more should the proceeding of one who forces a state to do a great right con- trary to the laws be called un- righteous. Nor does it 15 make any 144 3, 3 \ ‘ , / BE. "Av τις apa μὴ πείθων τὸν ἰατρευόμενον, p. 29 ΠΛΑΤΩΝΟΣ ἔχων δὲ ὀρθῶς τὴν τέχνην, παρὰ τὰ γεγραμμένα βέλ-- ᾽ , δ κι κ ” ” ΕΣ ‘ τιον ἀναγκαζῃ δρᾷν παῖδα ἢ τινα ἄνδρα ἢ καὶ “ / ΕἾ ΞὉ, / » / μ | > γυναίκα, TL τούνομα τῆς Plas εσται ταύτης ; ap ov κι σι Τὶ Ν \ \ 7 , ε ΄ 5πᾶν μᾶλλον ἢ τὸ Tapa τὴν τέχνην λεγόμενον ἀμαρ- Ν a \ / > lal 5 ΄σ aA τημα TO νοσῶδες ; Kal πάντα ορθῶς εἰπεῖν ἐστι ΄ a β θέ \ \ a pe “ 7 POTEPOV T@ ἰασῦεντι πέρι TO TOLOVTOV “σπλὴν OTL / Ν ΕΣ / « ἈΝ a / νοσώδη καὶ ἀτεχνα πέπονθεν ὑπὸ τῶν βιασαμένων ἰατρῶν ; NE, ΣΏ. ᾿Αληθέστατα λέγεις. EE. Τί δὲ ἡμῖν δὴ τὸ παρὰ τὴν πολιτικὴν τέχνην c , / / 3 σαν > Ν > ‘ Ν αμαρτὴμα λεγόμενον €OTLY 5 ap Ov TO alo x pov Kat Ἂν \ +S κακὸν καὶ QOLKOV 3 NE. 2Q. Παντάπασί ye. ΜΞ ΕΣ. I. "Av τις ἄρα μὴ πείθων τὸν ἰατρευόμενον] Cf. 1,6ρο..5,684 6: Καὶ μὴν τοῦτό γε οἱ πολλοὶ προσ- τάττουσι τοῖς νομοθέταις, ὅπως τοιούτους θήσουσι τοὺς νόμους οὺς ἕκοντες οἱ δῆμοι καὶ τὰ πλήθη δέ- fovrar, καθάπερ ἂν εἴ τις γυμνα- σταῖς ἢ ἰατροῖς προστάττοι μεθ᾽ ἡδονῆς θεραπεύειν τε καὶ ἰᾶσθαι τὰ θεραπευόμενα σώματα. ἄρα] “ According to the theory we are considering.” 5. mav—vooades| “ Anything rather than the error which is spoken of as a violation of the art, namely unwholesome treat- ment.” 6. καὶ mavra—iatpov| “And the man who has been com- pelled in such a case has a right to say anything sooner than that he has suffered un- wholesome and _ unscientific treatment from the physicians ‘ov δὴ βιασθέντων παρὰ τὰ γεγραμμένα who compelled him.” 11. Ti δὲ---ἐστιν] “ But what is the error which is named as a violation of the political art 1" 15. Τῶν δὴ ---βιασαμένων)] A redundant and irregular sen- tence. The first genitive is resumed in τῶν τοιούτων go- verned by Ψόγον, which is an accusative without an explicit construction, but governed by εἰπὲ implied in φέρε. The words μέλλει, καταγελαστότατος, αὐτῷ, 1D. what follows, are to be referred to ψόγον, which the pronoun αὐτῷ resumes in a more definite construction. “ Now in the case of those who are compelled to do contrary to written and hereditary laws, other things more just and better and no- bler than their former doings, say again of the exclaimer of yh ΠΟΛΙΤΙΚΟΣ. 145 A 7 an “ / > Ν 6 ὃ Ν / 290. και TAT Pla pav ἑτέρα δικαιότερα καὶ ἀμεινὼ και 7 an » , a ΄σ΄ 7 53 ἃ καλλίω τῶν ἐμπροσθεν, φέρε, τὸν τῶν τοιούτων αὖ ΄ A a 7 / “τ ol) > / Ν ψόγον περὶ τῆς τοιαύτης βίας, ap, εἰ μέλλει μὴ / 53 7 / » a a καταγελαστότατος εἶναι πάντων, πάντα αὐτῷ μᾶλλον / ἘΝ ον Ν «ε Ν yy λεκτέον ἑκάστοτε, πλὴν ὡς αἰσχρὰ καὶ ἀδικα καὶ : \ / « 7 ε \ a kaka πεπονθασιν οἱ βιασθέντες ὑπὸ τῶν βιασα- / μένων 5 NE. 3Q. ᾿Αληθέστατα λέγεις. ME. ᾿Αλλ᾽ apa ἐὰν μὲν πλούσιος 6 βιασάμενος ἢ το μ HD Ou Ἃ » y+ 7 7 A / > 7 Kala, ἂν δ᾽ apa πένης, ἀδικα τὰ βιασθέντα ἐστίν ; δ Ὁ / x Ν / 7 Ἂ / » ἢ κἂν πείσας κἂν μὴ πείσας τις, πλούσιος ἢ πένης; ἢ \ , x Ν ΄, avi , K κατὰ γράμματα ἢ παρὰ γράμματα, Opa τα ξύμφορα ἢ a a \ Q A Ν “ cy , : τοῦτον δεῖ καὶ περὶ ταῦτα TOV ὅρον εἶναι τὸν γε ἀλη- such men about such violence, must not this, to avoid being utterly absurd, say everything rather, on each occasion, than that those who are compelled have suffered what is dishon- ourable and unjust and evil at the hands of those who com- pelled them ?” Cf. Lege. 9,875 ¢: ἐπεὶ ταῦτα εἴποτε Tis ἄνθρωπος, φύσει ἱκανός, θείᾳ μοίρᾳ γεννηθεὶς, παραλαβεῖν δυνατὸς εἴη, νόμων οὐδὲν ἂν δέοιτο τῶν ἀρξόντων ἑαυτοῦ. ἐπιστήμης γὰρ οὔτε νόμος οὔτε τάξις οὐδεμία κρείττων, οὐδὲ θέμις ἐστὶ νοῦν οὐ- δενὸς ὑπήκοον οὐδὲ δοῦλον ἀλλὰ πάντων ἄρχοντα εἶναι, εἴπερ ἀλη- θινὸς ἐλεύθερός τε ὄντως ἢ κατὰ φύσιν. δαμοῦ οὐδαμῶς, ἀλλ᾽ ἢ κατὰ βραχύ. διὸ δὴ τὸ δεύτερον αἱρετέον, τάξιν καὶ νόμον, ἃ δὴ τὸ μὲν ὡς ἐπὶ τὸ a Se > ΄ > > νυν O€, OU γαρ εστιν OU- πολὺ ὁρᾷ καὶ βλέπει, τὸ δ᾽ ἐπὶ πᾶν ἀδυνατεῖ. Ib. 3, 691 «. 2. φέρε] Cf. Aristoph. Ach. 541. Stallbaum makes ψόγον dependent on λέγειν δεῖ implied in λεκτέον. Perhaps rightly : but cf. infr. 306 e. 12. x τὰ ξύμφορα | Most MSS. have μὴ ξύμφορα ἢ Evp- gopa. The rest are divided between μὴ ξύμφορα ἢ ἀξύμφορα and μὴ ξύμφορα. The correc- tion is due to Cornarius. Cf. Soph. 259 6, δυνατά, for traces of a similar process of cor- ruption. 13. τοῦτον---κρείττω] “Herein consists the rule of right go- vernment as strictly conceived : according to which rule the wise and good man will order the condition of his subjects. As the pilot ever watching over the interest of the ship and her crew, not laying down prescriptions, but getting from his own mind his art for his law, preserves his comrades on board ship, so in like manner a right constitution of a state would be got from those who difference whether he who does so be rich or poor. The light of reason and science determin- ing what is expedient and just, is the only criterion of good go- vernment : and he who acts by ° this light, howsoever his actions may be de- scribed, is the true ruler. ae WN U 140 ΠΛΑΤΩΝΟΣ θινώτατον ὀρθῆς πόλεως διοικήσεως, ὃν ὁ σοφὸς καὶ Ρ. 2:}:᾿ ἀγαθὸς ἀνὴρ διοικήσει τὸ τῶν ἀρχομένων ; ὥσπερ ὃ κυβερνήτης τὸ τῆς νεὼς καὶ ναυτῶν ἀεὶ ξυμφέρον ΄ » 7 Ν > \ \ / ἡ παραφυλάττων, οὐ γράμματα τιθεὶς ἀλλὰ τὴν τέχνην P- 26)! δνόμον παρεχόμενος, σώζει τοὺς συνναύτας, οὕτω καὶ κατὰ τὸν αὐτὸν τρόπον τοῦτον παρὰ τῶν οὕτως ἄρχειν δυναμένων ὀρθὴ γίγνοιτ᾽ ἂν πολιτεία, τὴν τῆς τέχνης ῥώμην τῶν νόμων παρεχομένων κρείττω ; καὶ πάντα i A lal “ yy > » e ’ ποίουσι TOLS ἔμφροσιν αρχουσιν οὐκ ἐστιν ἁμαρτΉμα, ΄ x A , ΄, \ \ = Ν το μέχριπερ ἂν ἕν μέγα φυλάττωσι, τὸ μετὰ νοῦ καὶ / / SN / ΄σ 5 > / τέχνης δικαιότατον ἀεὶ διανέμοντες τοῖς ἐν TH πόλει, Ὁ / 5 Χ (ae A i‘ Aes. / > If σώζειν τε αὐτοὺς οἷοί TE ὦσι καὶ ἀμείνους ἐκ χειρόνων » “ Ν ἊΝ 7 ἀποτελεῖν KATA TO OUVATOV ; That can- NE. ΣΩ. Οὐκ ἐστ᾽ ἀντειπεῖν παρά ye ἃ νῦν not be ᾿ gainsaid. 15 εἰρηται. \ ἊΝ “ \ , EE. Kai μὴν πρὸς ἐκεῖνα οὐδὲ avtippyreov. should be able to govern thus, and should bring to the work a power in their art superior to the laws.” For περὶ ταῦτα, cf. Theaet. 176 c: ubi fors. le- gend. περὶ τοῦτο. 5. οὕτω--- γίγνοιτ᾽ ἂν πολιτεία] The clause was at first meant to be in apposition with ὅρον εἶναι, but in ytyvour ἂν there is a return to the direct form. 8. καὶ πάντα ποιοῦσι----δυνατόν] “Απᾷ the wise governors, what- ever they do, can do no wrong so long as they fulfil one great condition,—so long as by dis- pensing to the citizens justice enlightened by reason and knowledge, they are able to preserve them, and, so far as that is possible, to make them better.” 10. μέχριπερ ἕν μέγα φυλάττω- σιν} Cf. Rep. 4; 423 6: ἐὰν τὸ λεγόμενον ἕν μέγα φυλάττωσι. τὸ μετὰ νοῦ---διανέμοντες] Cf. Lege. 4, 714 a: τὴν τοῦ νοῦ διανομὴν ἐπονομάζοντες νόμον. 12. σώζειν τε----καὶ ἀμείνους--- ἀποτελεῖν] For, as Aristotle afterwards said, the end of a city is not life merely, but a good life. Cf. supr. 293. οἷοί te oot] In apposition with φυλάττωσι. 14. παρά ye—etpyra| “ At least in contradiction to what has now been said.” The re- spondent wishes to reserve his opinion on the main point, like Adeimantus in Rep. 6, 487 b: πρὸς μὲν ταῦτά σοι οὐδεὶς ἂν οἷός T εἴη ἀντειπεῖν" ἀλλὰ yap —. Cf. Gorg. 475 €: οὔ μοι δοκεῖ κατά γε τοῦτον τὸν λόγον. 16. ἐκεῖνα]! P. 292 6. ΠΟΛΙΤΊΙΚΟΣ. 147 NE. ΣΏΩ. Τὰ ποῖα εἶπες ; μ-- ε > y a δ. 216 τ \ BE. Ὡς οὐκ av ποτε πλῆθος οὐδ᾽ ὡντινωνοῦν THY , Ν > I? el Lm | / \ τοιαύτην λαβὸν ἐπιστήμην οἷον T ἂν γένοιτο μετὰ a - / \ / Ν νοῦ διοικεῖν πόλιν, ἀλλὰ περὶ σμικρὸν τι καὶ ὀλίγον Ἂς Ν A > G / \ / ’ / / καὶ TO ἐν ἐστι (ζητητέον THY μίαν ἐκείνην πολιτείαν 5 τὴν ὀρθήν, τὰς δ᾽ ἄλλας μιμήματα θετέον, ὥσπερ καὶ > U / > / \ \ STEN \ / oAtyov πρότερον ἐρρήθη, Tas μὲν ἐπὶ Ta καλλίονα, \ συ ς Ν > / / , Tas δὲ ἐπὶ Ta αἰσχίω μιμουμενᾶς TAUTHV. NE. 3Q. Πῶς; τί τοῦτ᾽ εἴρηκας ; οὐδὲ γὰρ ἄρτι δῆθεν κατέμαθον τὸ περὶ τῶν μιμημάτων. Ν an 7 ij 7 ΄- HE. Καὶ μὴν οὐ φαῦλόν γε, ἂν κινήσας τις τοῦ- Ν if a 7 Ἂν \ ‘ Tov Tov λόγον αὐτοῦ καταβάλῃ Kal μὴ διελθὼν ἐνδεί- 2. οὐδ᾽ ὡντινωνοῦν] 1. 6. Whe- ther rich or poor. ἡ. Tas peyv—pipoupevas ταύ- my] An epexegetic or redun- dant clause. 9. Πῶς τί τοῦτ᾽ εἴρηκα] Cf. Legg. 12, 968 ὁ: πῶς τί τοῦτο εἰρῆσθαι φῶμεν ad; which the Zurich editors have pointed differently, putting a mark of interrogation after més. If this is right, it should be ap- plied consistently to all such expressions, 6. 9. πῶς ; τί τοῦτ᾽ εἶπες ; which is of frequent occurrence. ἄρτι P. 293 e. το. δῆθεν] “I suppose.” He had accepted the former state- ment, but is now forced to confess that he had not under- stood it. That δῆθεν is not always ironical appears from Herod. VI. 138: τί δὴ ἀνδρω- θέντες δῆθεν ποιήσουσι; and similar uses of it are more frequent in later Greek. Schol. Ν a , ε 7 » / ἃ ἕζηται τὸ νῦν γιγνόμενον ἁμάρτημα περὶ αὐτό. Apoll. Rh. (quoted in the Paris Stephanus): τὸ δῆθεν ποτὲ μὲν πληρωματικόν, ποτὲ δὲ ἀντὶ τοῦ δηλαδὴ ἢ ὡς δή. Compare the use οἵ δήπουθεν, Phileb. 62 6, lon 534 ἃ. Badham, who objects to the word, very plausibly conjectures ῥηθέν. 11. Καὶ μὴν---περὶ αὐτό] “And yet it were a remark of no little weight, even if one merely threw it out and left it, without discussing and making plain the error which men now com- mit in this matter.” ἂν κινήσας — αὐτοῦ κατα- βάλῃ}] “If, having started this question, one should leave it where he took it up.” For used metaphorically as ef. Gorg. 490: Ἔχε δὴ αὐτοῦ here, αὐτοῦ. 13. τὸ νῦν ---ἁμάρτημα] 1. 6. The capricious defiance of law, which is worse even than the maintenance of imperfect laws. See infr. 300 a, b. TD I ο Still less can the former pro- position, that scien- tifie go- vernment must of necessity be in the hands of very few: and that the other forms are imitations, more or less imper- fect, of this. This is a weighty truth, especially when fol- lowed into its applica- tions : whereby may be revealed the error into which politicians now-a-days are fallen. Their best course is to follow the traces of the perfect state which have been preserved in laws ; although the main- tenance of law is only a second- best course, and not ideally the best. This ap- pears, if we consider the origin of law, as we may do under a familiar image. 148 MAATQNOZ NE. ΣΩ. Ποῖον δή ; EE. Τοιόνδε τι δεῖ γε ζητεῖν, οὐ πάνυ ξύνηθες οὐδὲ ῥάδιον ἰδεῖν: ὅμως μὴν πειρώμεθα λαβεῖν αὐτό. φέρε γάρ' ὀρθῆς ἡμῖν μόνης οὔσης ταύτης τῆς πολι- 5τείας, ἣν εἰρήκαμεν, οἶσθ᾽ ὅτι τὰς ἄλλας δεῖ τοῖς συγγάμμασι χρωμένας δρώσας τὸ νῦν ἐπαινούμενον, καίπερ οὐκ ὀρθό- / a / TAUTNS οὕτω σώζεσθαι, A τατον OV; NE. ΣΩ. To ποῖον ; — Ν \ \ / \ / “ 10 ΞΕ To παρὰ τοὺς νόμους μηδὲν μηδένα τολμᾷν a - > a ͵ N lal \ ΄ ποιεῖν τῶν ἐν τῇ πόλει, τὸν τολμῶντα δὲ θανάτῳ lod a a 4 oy 13 RY, ζημιοῦσθαι καὶ πᾶσι τοῖς ἐσχάτοις. καὶ TOUT ἐστιν 6 > / Ν ΄΄ > “0 € / > \ \ ὀρθότατα καὶ κάλλιστ᾽ ἔχον, ὡς δεύτερον, ἐπειδὰν TO πρῶτόν τις μεταθῇ τὸ νῦν δὴ ῥηθέν. ᾧ δὲ τρόπῳ ρῶτὸν τις μεταθῇ τὸ νῦν δὴ ῥηθέν. ᾧ pore νώμεθα. ἢ γάρ; ΄ » a ἃ Ν , 3 / 15 γεγονὸς ἐστι τοῦτο ὃ δὴ δεύτερον ἐφήσαμεν, διαπερα- NE. ΣΩ. Πάνυ μὲν οὖν. \ \ , > HE. Eis δὴ τὰς εἰκόνας ἐπανίωμεν παλιν, ais ’ a » ΄ SPUN αναγκαιον ἀπεικάζειν QEL 20 χοντᾶς. NE. SQ. Ποίας: 2. δεῖ ye ζητεῖν] “ We must certainly examine—with what success we may.” 5. ἣν εἰρήκαμεν] P. 293, viz. That which is guided by the consciousness of what is best, in which, according to the lan- guage of the Republic, philoso- phers are kings. 7. οὐκ ὀρθότατον͵] Cf. supr. 294 d: ἐπειδήπερ οὐκ ὀρθότατον ὁ νόμος. 13. ὡς δεύτερον] Cf. Lege. 9, 875 ὁ, quoted above. ἐπειδὰν — ῥηθέν] “ When \ Χ 37 τοὺς βασιλικοὺς ap- one has withdrawn from the first and best principle, which we described just now.” 15. διαπερανώμεθα. ἢ γάρ ;| Cf. Theet. 173 ¢: λέγωμεν δή, ὡς ἔοικεν----, 18. ἐπανίωμεν πάλιν] The image of the physician was employed above, p. 293. But the γενναῖος κυβερνήτης seems to be an echo of Rep. 6, 488 a. Cf. also Legg. 12, 963 b, and Arist. Pol. III. 2, where the virtue of a citizen is inferred from that of a sailor. ΠΟΛΙΤΙΚΟΣ. Ἀ a / BE. Tov γενναῖον κυβερνήτην καὶ “ > ΄ > lA πολλῶν ἀντάξιον ἰατρόν. 149 Ἀ « / τὸν ἑτέρων γὰρ δή τι / κατίδωμεν oe 3 ’ὔ > al / σχημα ἐν TOUTOLS AUTOLS πλασάαμενοι. NE. ΣΏΩ. Ποῖόν τι: ͵ - , x HE. Towovde, οἷον εἰ πάντες περὶ αὐτῶν διανοη- 5 a “ / > > ΄ ’ a \ θεῖμεν ὅτι δεινότατα ὑπ᾽ αὐτῶν πάσχομεν. ὃν μὲν Ἁ Ey ’ y € a , « 7 , yap av ἐθελήσωσιν ἡμῶν τούτων EKATEPOL σώζειν, ὁμοίως δὴ σώζουσιν, ὃν δ᾽ ἂν λωβᾶσθαι βουληθῶσι, “ 72 "4 ’ὔ λωβῶνται τέμνοντες καὶ κάοντες καὶ προστάττοντες ᾽ ΄ 7 see \ - 7, - ἀναλώματα φέρειν map ἑαυτοὺς οἷον φόρους, ὧν το \ \ > Χ ΄ Ν >a\ > , σμικρὰ μὲν εἰς TOY κάμνοντα καὶ οὐδὲν ἀναλίσκουσι, I. ἑτέρων πολλῶν ἀντάξιον Hom. Il. A. 514 : Ἰητρὸς γὰρ ἀνὴρ πολλῶν ἀντάξιος ἄλλων. 2. τι σχῆμα πλασάμενοι] This expression also recals the pas- sage of the Republic just cited: δεῖ ἐκ πολλῶν αὐτὸ ξυναγαγεῖν εἰκάζοντα. The unchangeableness of in- stitutions is less absolutely fixed in the Laws, where room is left for partial changes and adaptations by constitutional means. Legg. 6, 769: εἴποτε τις ἐπινοήσειε γράψαι Te ὡς κάλλι- στον ζῶον καὶ τοῦτ᾽ αὖ μηδέποτε ἐπὶ τὸ φαυλότερον ἀλλ᾽ ἐπὶ τὸ βέλτιον ἴσχειν τοῦ ἐπιόντος ἀεὶ χρόνου, ξυννοεῖς ὅτι θνητὸς ὧν, εἰ μή τινα καταλείψει διάδοχον ---- οὐ τοιοῦτον τὸ τοῦ νομοθέτου --- πρῶτον μὲν γράψαι τοὺς νόμους --Ἴἔπειτα----ἀρ᾽ οἴει τινὰ----ἀγνοεῖν ὅτι πάμπολλα ἀνάγκη παραλεί- πεσθαι τοιαῦτα, ἃ δεῖ τινὰ ξυνε- πόμενον ἐπανορθοῦν ; 3. ἐν τούτοις αὐτοῖς] ἐν of the material in which one works ; as supr. 288 c: ἐξ ὧν Np DS: ὩΣ καὶ ἐν οἷς. 5. οἷον εἰ) The apodosis is deferred by the explanation of this clause, and the sense is resumed and continued in «i δὴ κιτιλ., infra. 10. οἷον φόρους] The physi- cian, as being an image of the king, is made to assume a kingly σχῆμα. 11. σμικρὰ---καὶ οὐδὲν] “Little or nothing.” Cf. Theet. 173 6. The influence of the following argument appears in Ar. Pol. II. 5: ἐπὶ γοῦν τῶν ἀλλῶν em- στημῶν τοῦτο συνενήνοχεν᾽ οἷον ἰατρικὴ κινηθεῖσα παρὰ τὰ πάτρια, καὶ γυμναστικὴ καὶ ὅλως αἱ τέχναι Ibid. : Weddos δὲ καὶ τὸ παράδειγμα τὸ ΄“ ‘ « , πασαι Και αἱι δυνάμεις. περὶ τῶν τεχνῶν, οὐ γὰρ ὅμοιον τὸ κινεῖν τέχνην καὶ νόμον᾽ ὁ γὰρ νόμος ἰσχὺν οὐδεμίαν ἔχει πρὸς τὸ πείθεσθαι πλὴν διὰ τὸ ἔθος κ-τ.λ. Ib. II]. rr: τὸ δὲ τῶν τεχνῶν εἶναι δοκεῖ παράδειγμα ψεῦδος, ὅτι τὸ κατὰ γράμματα ἰατρεύεσθαι φαῦλον... ἐπεὶ καὶ τοὺς ἰατροὺς ὅταν ὑποπτεύίωσι πεισθέντας τοῖς ἐχθροῖς διαφθείρειν διὰ κέρδος, τότε τὴν ἐκ τῶν γραμμάτων θερα- πείαν ζητήσαιεν ἂν μᾶλλον. Suppose men, indig- nant at the harm done by the ca- price of physicians and pilots, devised a constraint for them by calling an oligarchi- cal or de- mocratic assembly, where all who chose might speak, and the advice of unpro- fessional persons might often be pre- ferred, and by there making decrees for the re- culation of the prac- tice of na- vigation and medi- cine, which should be binding on those pro- fessions for all time. 150 a 7 wv > / Ν cf ᾽ / “ - Ν τοῖς δ᾽ ἄλλοις αὐτοί τε καὶ οἱ οἰκέται χρῶνται' καὶ p. 2% ΠΛΑΤΏΝΟΣ \ κ᾿ A ἦν \ A x , δὴ καὶ τελευτῶντες ἢ παρὰ Evyyevov ἢ Tapa τινων Ὁ ἐχθρῶν τοῦ κάμνοντος χρήματα μισθὸν λαμβάνοντες » / ATTOKTLYVUGOLV. 6 5 ΄- 7 a οἵ T αὖ κυβερνῆται μυρία ἕτερα τοι- ω » 6 / / yf » “ 5. αῦτα ἐργάζονται, καταλείποντές τε ἔκ τινος ἐπιβουλῆς > lol lal if 7 ΄- ἐν ταῖς ἀναγωγαῖς ἐρήμους, καὶ σφάλματα ποιοῦντες > a ΄ > ΄, 9 \ , ἐν τοῖς πελάγεσιν ἐκβάλλουσιν εἰς THY θάλατταν, Kal led “ > \ ΄ / ἕτερα κακουργοῦσιν. εἰ On ταῦτα διανοηθέντες βου- / Ν 3 o / / a λευσαίμεθα περὶ αὐτῶν βουλὴν τινα, τούτων τῶν lal 3 3, ’ τοτζέχνων μηκέτι ἐπιτρέπειν ἄρχειν αὐτοκράτορι μηδε- τέρᾳ μήτ᾽ οὖν δούλων μήτ᾽ ἐλευθέρων, ξυλλέξαι δὲ 5 y «ε na > a x / XN “ ἊἋ ἐκκλησίαν ἡμῶν αὑτῶν, ἢ ξύμπαντα τὸν δῆμον ἢ \ 7 (2 ΕῚ ΄- \ ΩΝ ΕΣ lal Ν a Tous πλουσίους μόνον, ἐξεῖναι δὲ Kal ἰδιωτῶν Kal τῶν yy a / a Ἂς Ν / ἄλλων δημιουργῶν περί TE πλοῦ καὶ περὶ νόσων I. τοῖς δ᾽ ἄλλοι] The phy- sician’s fee is glanced at also in Rep. 1, 341 ¢: ὁ τῷ ἀκριβεῖ λόγῳ iarpos—adrepov χρηματι- στῆς ἐστιν ἢ τῶν καμνόντων θερα- πευτής ; καὶ λέγε τὸν τῷ ὄντι ἰατρὸν ὄντα. 2. ἢ---ἤ τινων] Supr. 261 ἃ: ὥσπερ βοηλάτην ἤ τινα ἱππόκομον, et passim. 7. ἐκβάλλουσιν] Note the re- turn from the participle to the indicative. 10. pndetépa] Bodl. pnderepa (sic). 11. μήτ᾽ οὖν δούλων μήτ᾽ ἐλευ- θέρων] “No, not over slaves, still less freemen.” See the picture of the slave physician of slaves in Legg. 4, 720. 13. ἐξεῖναι 5€ — δημιουργῶν | Sub. ὠτινιοῦν, Cf. Prot. 319 ἃ, Gorg. 456. καὶ ἰδιωτῶν καὶ ἄλλων τῶν τὸ γνώμην ξυμβαλέσθαι, καθ᾽ ὅ τι χρὴ τοῖς φαρμάκοις δημιουργῶν] “ Other,” 1. 6. than physicians and pilots. Cf. Protag. 319 ¢, d. 15. καθ᾽ ὃ τι χρὴ---ἔτερα τοι- atta] “ What is to be the me- thod of using drugs and sur- gical instruments in our treat- ment of the sick, and vessels also, and the tackling of ves- sels in navigation, and in en- countering dangers, whether those incident to the voyage in the shape of winds and waves, or in encountering an affray with pirates, or perhaps the necessity of fighting at sea with old-fashioned galleys against an armada of the like build.” The words πρὸς ras— τοιαῦτα, though in point of meaning explanatory of περὶ τοὺς κινδύνους, return to the construction with καθ᾽ ὅτι χρὴ --χρῆσθαι----τοῖς πλοίοις. , ΠΟΛΙΤΙΚΟΣ. hi ῷῳτ --- . a Ν lal cal 7 ἈΝ \ 4 18.208. ἡμᾶς Kal τοῖς ἰατρικοῖς ὀργάνοις πρὸς τοὺς κάμνοντας ΗΝ Ν Ν a / a A d χρῆσθαι, καὶ δὴ καὶ τοῖς πλοίοις τε αὐτοῖς καὶ τοῖς lal 7 ’ \ lal Ν ναυτικοῖς ὀργάνοις εἰς τὴν τῶν πλοίων χρείαν καὶ ni \ / 7 Ν SAN Ν σι περὶ τοὺς κινδύνους τοὺς τε πρὸς αὑτὸν τὸν πλοῦν ἜΣ \ ΄ ΄ κ \ \ a = ἀνέμων καὶ θαλάττης πέρι καὶ πρὸς Tas τοῖς λῃσταῖς 5 » 4 Ν aX rn 37 / a ἐντεύξεις, καὶ ἐὰν ναυμαχεῖν apa δέῃ που μακροῖς / Ν a a ‘\ \ 4 , 4s πλοίοις προς ETEPA τοιαῦτα τὰ δε τῳ πληθει δοξαντα / / nN a a #7 3 περὶ τούτων, εἴτε τινῶν ἰατρῶν καὶ κυβερνητῶν εἴτ a» a {/ / > / ἄλλων ἰδιωτῶν ξυμβουλευόντων, γράψαντας ἐν KUp- / Ν / \ \ ΩΝ 3) ΄ βεσί τισι καὶ στήλαις, τὰ δὲ καὶ ἀγραφα πάτρια ιο 7 ay, NX rn? BA / Ν 3) e θεμένους ἐθη, κατὰ ταῦτ ON πᾶντα τὸν ἐπειτα ’ \ “- ΄ χρόνον ναυτίλλεσθαι καὶ τὰς τῶν καμνόντων θερα- , a πείας ποιεῖσθαι. ΝΕ. ΣΩ. Κομιδῇ γε εἴρηκας aroma. EE. Kar ἐνιαυτὸν δέ γε ἄρχοντας καθίστασθαι > , " » a / 5 > a / τοῦ πλήθους, Eire EK τῶν πλουσίων ETE EK τοῦ δήμου 7 A AY ΄, ͵ \ \ παντὸς, ὃς av κληρούμενος λαγχάνῃ" τοὺς δὲ κατα- The present is of course a wholly imaginary case. The ἰατρῶν αἵρεσις alluded to in the Gorgias, 455 b, is not the de- cision of the question who are to be physicians, but the selec- tion of certain physicians for some public duty connected with their profession. Cf. Ar. Pol. III. 6: ὥσπερ οὖν ἰατρὸν δεῖ διδόναι τὰς εὐθύνας ἐν ἰατροῖς, οὕτω τοὺς ἄλλους ἐν τοῖς ὁμοίοις. 6. μακροῖς πλοίοις] The most antiquated kind of fighting vessel, of which Plato speaks as an English writer of the present day might of the old three-decker. He imagines the effect of perpetuating such a mode of warfare in written laws, like those of “ the Medes and Persians, which alter not.” In the same spirit he recals the old word κύρβεσι just below. 8. εἴτ᾽ ἄλλων ἰδιωτῶν] “ Or else private citizens.” The Platonic use of ἄλλος already noticed. Cf. Gorg. 473 ¢: ὑπὸ τῶν πολιτῶν καὶ TOV ἄλλων ξένων. 11. ἤδη τὸν ἔπειτα χρόνον ναυ- τίλλεσθα)] Cf. Soph. Antig. 717: ὑπτίοις κάτω στρέψας τὸ λοιπὸν σέλμασιν ναυτΐλλεται. 15- δέ γε] “ Yes, and more- over.” 17. 6s—Aayyavy] This seems to refer only to ἐκ τοῦ δήμου παντὸς, see infr, 6 : ἢ τῶν---λα- χόντας. The practical and speculative physician are again contrasted in illustration of the lawgiver’s 15 Then sup- pose them to elect annually, either by vote or lot, those to whom au- thority in each de- partment should be given. Who, when their term of office had expired, might be summoned before an unprofes- sional court, and perhaps condemned and pun- ished for breaking the written regulations in their art. Not con- tent with this, sup- pose them to enact, that who- ever is found in- quiring 15 152 IAATQNOZ στάντας ἄρχοντας ἄρχειν κατὰ τὰ γράμματα κυβερ- p. 26}, a \ al Ν / νῶντας τὰς ναῦς καὶ TOUS κάμνοντας ἰωμένους. NE. 2Q. Ταῦτ᾽ ἔτι χαλεπώτερα. πὴ ἢ Θ a δὴ ν Ν A ΄- « / > δὰ ei. €@ O77) Και TO μετὰ Ταῦτα ETTOMEVOV., ETTELOAV ἈΝ Ν cal > / ε / € ᾽ Ν 54“. 7 5γὰρ δὴ τῶν ἀρχοντῶν EKAOTOLS O ενίαυτος ἐξέλθῃ, , ᾽ὔ / > ΄-“ ΕΥ a δεησει δικαστήρια καθίσαντας ἀνδρῶν, ἢ τῶν πλου- / » / X / 53 a 74 \ σίων ἐκ προκρίσεως ἢ ξύμπαντος αὖ τοῦ δήμου Tous / > / 7 * JA Ν λαχόντας, εἰς τούτους εἰσάγειν τοὺς ἀρξαντας καὶ » , - \ Ν / € > \ εὐθύνειν, κατηγορεῖν δὲ τὸν βουλόμενον ὡς οὐ κατὰ \ 7 Ν > \ ’ , \ a Ia\ τοτὰ γράμματα τὸν ἐνιαυτὸν ἐκυβέρνησε τὰς ναῦς οὐδὲ \ \ \ “- / 4 \ Ena \ κατὰ Ta παλαιὰ τῶν προγόνων ἔθη: Ta αὐτὰ δὲ an Ν lol \ 7 ’ὔ © > ταῦτα καὶ περὶ τῶν τοὺς κάμνοντας ἰωμένων. ὧν ὃ x a “ σ“ Ν cad δ... at \ av καταψηφισθῇ, τιμᾷν ὃ TL χρὴ παθεῖν αὐτῶν τινὰς ΩΝ > , ῃ ἀποτίνειν. NE. ΣΩ. Οὐκοῦν ὅ γ᾽ ἐθέλων καὶ ἑκὼν ἐν τοῖς ΄ YA ΄ ’ x lal 7 τοιούτοις ἄρχειν δικαιότατ᾽ ἂν ὁτιοῦν πάσχοι καὶ / ἀποτίνοι. EE. Καὶ τοίνυν ἔτι δεήσει θέσθαι νόμον ἐπὶ πᾶσι art in Legg. 9, 857 d. The “slave” says to the true phy- siclan: ὦ μῶρε, οὐκ ἰατρεύεις τὸν νοσοῦντα, ἀλλὰ σχεδὸν παιδεύεις, ὡς ἰατρὸν ἀλλ᾽ οὐχ ὡς ὑγιῆ δεό- μενον γίγνεσθαι. 10. ἐκυβέρνησε]͵ He passes from the general enactment to the form of indictment in a particular case. 11. τὰ αὐτὰ δὲ ταῦτα] For the ellipse, cf. Thezt.148 b: καὶ περὶ τὰ στερεὰ ἄλλο τοιοῦτον. 13. τιμᾷν --- ἀποτίνεν 1 Cf. Legg. 8, 843 b, 9, 875 d, 4110. 15. καὶ ἑκὼν] “To hold office amongst such people, at least when he has the choice.” Com- pare the representation in the Republic (1, 347, 7, 521) of the unwillingness of good men to rule. καὶ implies that there are cases in which a good man may be compelled to rule. 18. Kal τοίνυν ἔτι] further still.” Καὶ τοίνυν--- δεήσει] Cf. Legg. 1,634 d,e (the Athenian is ad- dressing the Cretan and Spar- tan): ὑμῖν μὲν yap—eis τῶν καλ- λίστων ἂν εἴη νόμων μὴ ζητεῖν τῶν νέων μηδένα ἐᾷν ποῖα καλῶς αὐτῶν ἢ μὴ καλῶς ἔχει, μιᾷ δὲ φωνῇ καὶ ἐξ ἑνὸς στόματος πάντας συμφω- νεῖν ὡς πάντα καλῶς κεῖται θέντων θεῶν κιτιλ. And for the ex- pression, Legg. 5, 741 6: πρὸς τούτοις δ᾽ ἔτι νόμος ἕπεται πᾶσι τούτοις. “ Well, Pp: 29) ΠΟΛΙΤΙΚΟΣ. 153 , yy Ν Ν ‘ ΕἸ Ν 99. τούτοις, ἂν τις κυβερνητικὴν καὶ τὸ ναυτικὸν ἢ TO ε Ν a) a i Ν ΄ ΄ Ν ὑγίεινον καὶ ἰατρικῆς ἀλήθειαν περὶ πνεύματα τε καὶ \ \ “ \ \ ΄ θερμὰ καὶ ψυχρὰ ζητῶν φαίνηται παρὰ τὰ γράμματα , a \ “- “ \ καὶ σοφιζόμενος ὁτιοῦν περὶ τὰ τοιαῦτα, πρῶτον μὲν ’ Ν \ τ. \ , μήτε ἰατρικὸν αὐτὸν μήτε κυβερνητικὸν ὀνομάζειν \ 4 / \ / Sf? ἀλλὰ μετεωρολόγον, ἀδολέσχην τινὰ σοφιστὴν, εἰθ 3, 7 as διαφθείροντα ἄλλους νεωτέρους καὶ ἀναπείθοντα 7 lal lal \ \ / ἐπιτίθεσθαι κυβερνητικῇ Kal ἰατρικῇ μὴ κατὰ νόμους, γι. / ἴω a ἀλλ᾽ αὐτοκράτορας ἄρχειν τῶν πλοίων καὶ τῶν voo- / / > , Ν ΄ - οὐντων, γραψάμενον εἰσάγειν τὸν βουλόμενον, οἷς », » 4 7 ΕΝ \ \ \ ἔξεστιν, εἰς δή τι δικαστήριον. ἂν δὲ παρὰ τοὺς 2 Ν \ 4 7 / 3, / νόμους Kal τὰ γεγραμμένα δόξῃ πείθειν εἴτε νέους ” , , a > ΄ 5. Ν A εἴτε πρεσβύτας, κολάζειν τοῖς ἐσχάτοις. οὐδὲν yap 2. πνεύματα! ‘* Winds,” as affecting health. Cf. supra 205 d: ξυμβαινόντων ἄλλων Bed- τιόνων τοῖς κάμνουσι διὰ πνεύματα 7 τι καὶ ἄλλο. καὶ θερμὰ καὶ ψυχρά] 1. 6. the more general inquiry which in- cludes the subject of winds. 6. petewpoddyov, ἀδολέσχην τινὰ σοφιστήν ͵ἢ] See the well- known passage, Rep. 6, 488 6: τὸν ὡς ἀληθῶς κυβερνητικὸν οὐχ ἡγεῖ ἂν τῷ ὄντι μετεωροσκόπον τε καὶ ἀδολέσχην καὶ ἄχρηστόν σφισι καλεῖσθαι ὑπὸ τῶν ἐν ταῖς οὕτω κατεσκευασμέναις ναυσὶ πλωτήρων. The phrase τὰ μετεωρὰ πράγματα would apply equally to the winds, the subjects of the phy- sician’s study, and the stars, which the true pilot must un- derstand. μετεωρολόγον ---- διαφθείροντα ἄλλους νεωτέρους----μὴ κατὰ νό- μους] The indictments of Ari- stophanes and Meletus against Socrates are here combined. In both clauses there is perhaps an allusion to the death of So- crates. Cf. also Soph. 225 e. 7. ws διαφθείροντα! This de- pends on γραψάμενον. 9. αὐτοκράτορας] 208 6. αὐτοκράτορας ἄρχειν 7 CF, Ar. Pol. I. 6: διόπερ οὐκ αὐὖτο- γνώμονας βέλτιον κρίνειν, ἀλλὰ Cf. supra κατὰ τὰ γράμματα καὶ τοὺς νόμους. Tbe 7: ἄρχειν depends immediately on πείθειν, and is codrdinate with ἐπιτίθεσθαι, though ἀλλὰ strictly requires some construc- tion dependent on ἐπιτ., 6. g. the participle ἄρχοντας, ΤΟ. τὸν βουλόμενον, ois ἔξεστιν “ Whoever will of those who have the legal power.” 11. εἰς δή τι δικαστήριον] ΟἿ, Meno 81 ὁ: τελευτᾷν, ὃ δὴ ἀπο- θνήσκειν καλοῦσιν. 12. γεγραμμένα] Se. γράμματα περὶ τούτων. 13. οὐδὲν yap δεῖν] ““ΕῸΣ no pc σι Io into the truth of medicine and navi- gation, and is therein κε wise be- yond what is written,” he shall first be called no artist, but a dreamer ora prating sophister, and then be publicly indicted of corrupting the youth, and per- suading them to address themselves to these sciences in a manner contrary to the laws. Lastly, if he be found guilty his punish- ment shall be extreme. For no one needs be wiser than the laws, which he who runs may read, both on the public mo- numents, and in the voice of eustom. 154 MAATQNOZ vad fal 53 > / \ ’ “ δεῖν τῶν νόμων εἶναι σοφώτερον᾽ οὐδένα γὰρ ἀγνοεῖν P- 26,5} ἰ Us , Ν \ Ν « Ν Ia \ Ν TO τε ἰατρικὸν καὶ τὸ ὑγιεινὸν οὐδὲ τὸ κυβερνητικὸν καὶ ναυτικόν" ἐξεῖναι γὰρ τῷ βουλομένῳ μανθάνειν sere UG, feos Ἢ , 3, “ ‘ ΄ γεγραμμένα καὶ πάτρια ἔθη κείμενα. ταῦτα δὴ περί ’ \ / / “ἤὕ c tA STE ταῦτας τὰς ἐπιστήμας εἰ γίγνοιτο οὕτως ws λέγο- 3 a / μεν, ὦ Σώκρατες, καὶ στρατηγικῆς καὶ ξυμπάσης ἡστινοσοῦν θηρευτικῆς καὶ γραφικῆς ἢ ξυμπάσης «ε a a ἴω / μέρος ὁτιοῦν μιμητικῆς Kal τεκτονικῆς καὶ ξυνόλης a Ἃ ΄- / Ν x Ν ὁποιασοῦν σκευουργίας ἢ καὶ γεωργίας καὶ τῆς περὶ \ \ Ey ε , 3 ιοτὰ φυτὰ Evvodns τέχνης, ἢ καί τινα ἱπποφορβίαν αὖ κατὰ συγγράμματα θεασαίμεθα γιγνομένην ἢ Evp- \ ΕΝ Ν oD lal ad / πασαν ἀγελαιοκομικὴν ἢ μαντικὴν ἢ πᾶν ὃ TL μέρος one need be wiser than the laws.” οὐδὲν is adverbial. The inevitableness of the philoso- pher’s fate is again stated in the Gorgias, p. 521. 4. kat πάτρια ἔθη] These are described in Legg. 7, USS) ταῦτα δὴ περί----κατὰ τέχνην ;| “Tf such were the proce- dure, Socrates, about these sciences, and about generalship and the other kinds of hunt- ing, or painting and every department of imitative art, or carpentry and every handi- eraft, or husbandry and_ all vegetable culture, or were we to see an art of horsebreeding, or the tending of any herd conducted according to written rules, or soothsaying, or any other ministerial function, or draught-playing, or any other science conversant with num- bers, whether simple, or square, or cube, or comprising motion —what aspect would be pre- sented by a world in which everything was done in this way, in which written pre- scriptions took the place of scientific principles ?” The Stranger takes every opportunity to exercise his pupil in recognizing the “ kindred ” between divers arts. Many threads of pre- vious discussion are here taken up. 6. στρατηγικῆς Kat — θηρευ- τικῆς | CE. Sophy) 222 ane robe Πὰς 7. γραφικῆς ἢ ----μέρος ὁτιοῦν He reverts to the accusative after περὶ (ταύτας τὰς ἐπιστήμας supr.) in order to avoid the confusion of a double genitive. For the μέρη τῆς μιμητικῆς, cf Soph. 235 6. 9. okevovpyias| Soph. 219 a. γεωργία! Ibid. ΤΟ. ἱπποφ.--ἀγελαιοκομ.] Su- pra 261 ἃ, 276 ἃ. 12. μαντικὴν----διακον.] Supra 290 6. ΠΟΛΙΤΙΚΟΣ. 155 ; ὃ \ / ΕῪ / “Δ / > 99. διακονικὴ περιείληφεν, ἢ πεττείαν ἢ ξύμπασαν apt- / 4 5 . 5) ΄ 7 © θμητικήν, ψιλήν, εἴτε ἐπίπεδον εἴτε ἐν βάθεσιν εἴτε ἐν ’ 53 / 4 lal “ τάχέεσιν ουσαν που,---περὶ ATTAVTA TAVTA OVTW πτρατ- / / 7 \ / τόμενα τί ToT ἄν φανείη, κατὰ συγγράμματα γιγνό- aN A / MEV και μὴ KATA ΤΕΧΡΉΡ 9 NE. ΣΏ. Δῆλον ὅτι πᾶσαι αἱ τέχναι παντελῶς δ > i? CS \ xAa\ > a / See sy, av ἀπολοινθ᾽ ἡμῖν, καὶ οὐδὲ εἰσαῦθις γένοιντ᾽ ἂν ποτε \ Ν 3 7 al ΄- ΄ “ « διὰ TOV OTOK@AVOVTA TOUTOV Gyre νομον" WOTE O / aA Ν lal / > Ν , 5) cn 5 ͵ βίος, ὧν καὶ νῦν χάλεπος, εἰς TOV χρόνον ἐκεῖνον αβι- / Ἂ XN / ὠτὸς γίγνοιτ᾽ ἂν τὸ παράπαν. 1. πεττείαν] Infr. 292 6. πεττείαν ---- ἀριθμητικήν | Legg. 7, 820 d: πεττεία καὶ ταῦτα ἀλλήλων τὰ pa- θήματα οὐ πάμπολυ κεχωρίσθαι. ἀριθμητικήν, ψιλὴν ---- ἐν τάχε- ow] Supra 258 c, 284 6. > pak} 2. eit ἐν βάθεσιν εἴτ᾽ ἐν τάχε- Cf. »ὕ a 4 €OLKE YOUV ἢ TE ow] Τάχεσιν Par. E; πάσχεσιν ParH. Cf.supr. 284 τ »ταχύτητας, and note: 294 d, παχύτερον : ubi Par. F, ταχύτερον. Arithmetic here includes mathematics, pure and mixed. Cf. Legs. 5 1466: νομίσαντα πρὸς πάντα εἶναι χρησί- μους τὰς τῶν ἀριθμῶν διανομὰς καὶ ποικίλσεις, ὅσα τε αὐτοὶ ἐν ἑαυτοῖς ποικίλλονται καὶ ὅσα ἐν μήκεσι καὶ ἐν βαθέσι ποικίλματα, καὶ δὴ καὶ ἐν φθόγγοις καὶ κινήσεσι ταῖς τε κατὰ τὴν εὐθυπορίαν τῆς ἄνω καὶ κάτω φορᾶς καὶ τῆς κύκλῳ περιφορᾶς. (The last clause affords a further comment on ταχέσιν.) 3. οὕτω πραττόμενα] Imper- sonal. For the form οἵ sen- tence, cf. Rep. 4, 434 a: τέκτων —ravta τἄλλα μεταλλαττόμενα, dpa σοι ἄν τι δοκεῖ κιτλ. In connexion with this passage, : slapaa : see Gorgias 455 Ὁ: > cal c ,ὔ ε fod , 4 ἰατρῶν αἱρέσεως ἢ τῇ πόλει σύλλο- γος ἢ περὶ ναυπηγῶν ἢ περὶ ἄλλου A a Ww > τινὸς δημιουργικοῦ ἔθνους, ἄλλο τι x , ec \ > ΄ ἢ τότε ὁ ῥητορικὸς οὐ συμβουλεύ- a ‘ a > c ΄ « σει, δῆλον γὰρ ὅτι ἐν ἑκάστῃ αἷ- ρέσει τὸν τεχνικώτατον δεῖ αἱρεῖ- σθαι. a 4 oTav Tepe 4. κατὰ συγγράμματα γιγνό- μενα] Contrast with this the praise of the Egyptian conven- tionality in art, Legg. 2,656 6: ΑΘ. παρὰ ταῦτ᾽ οὐκ ἐξῆν οὔτε ζωγρά- φοις οὔτ᾽ ἄλλοις ὅσοι σχήματα καὶ ὁποῖ᾽ atta ἀπεργάζονται καινοτο- μεῖν οὐδ᾽ ἐπινοεῖν ἄλλ᾽ ἄττα ἢ τὰ πάτρια, οὐδὲ νῦν ἔξεστιν, οὔτ᾽ ἐν τούτοις οὔτ᾽ ἐν μουσικῇ ξυμπάσῃ. σκοπῶν δ᾽ εὑρήσεις αὐτόθι τὸ μυριο- στὸν ἔτος γεγραμμένα ἢ τετυπωμένα, οὐχ ὡς ἔπος εἰπεῖν μυριοστὸν ἀλλ᾽ ὄντως, τῶν νῦν δεδημιουργημένων οὔτε τι καλλίονα οὔτ᾽ αἰσχίω, τὴν αὐτὴν δὲ ἀπειργασμένα. ΚΛ. Θαυμαστὸν λέγεις. ΑΘ. Νομο- θετικὸν μὲν οὖν καὶ πολιτικὸν ὑπερ- βαλλόντως. 6. Δῆλον ---τὸ παράπαν, infr. ἄρα οὐ --- κακόν, ἁμαρτήματος ---- ξυγγραμμάτων] Note the tragic cadence of these clauses. τέχνην *x 2 10 What would be the result of this pro- cedure, if applied to these or any other arts ? Theywould simply be destroyed, and that without hope of re- covery : so that life would be an intole- rable bur- den. But things would fall into still greater confusion, if the men appointed under such 156 / / >, ‘ 7 A EE. Ti δὲ τόδε ; εἰ κατὰ συγγράμματα μὲν ἀν- Pp. 361} ΠΛΑΤΏΝΟΣ ’ - ΄- ΕἸ ) ἢ ΄ αγκαάζοιμεν ἕκαστον γίγνεσθαι τῶν εἰρημένων καὶ τοῖς ͵, ε a > lal Ν / συγγράμμασιν ἡμῶν ἐπιστατεῖν τὸν χειροτονηθέντα Ἂ » - \ \ fal ἢ λαχόντα ἐκ τύχης, οὗτος δὲ μηδὲν φροντίζων τῶν Vd Δ oa / » 7 / enactments 5 γραμμάτων ἢ κέρδους ἕνεκέν τινος ἢ χάριτος ἰδίας disregard- ed them, not in the interest of science, but of their own private wishes. For the laws have at least some basis of experi- ence and of plausible counsel. Hence if laws are made, it is best, though only second best, that they should be en- forced. a > o fa) a \ / Tapa ταῦτα ἐπιχειροῖ δρᾷν ἕτερα, μηδὲν γιγνώσκων, 53 » A an a“ / a Ἃ yy a apa. OU TOU KQKOU TOU πρόσθεν μεῖζον αν ετι TOUTO tf / γίγνοιτο κακον 5 NE. 30. ᾿Αληθέστατα. =E Il \\ XN 53 \ , Ν » / poy Ls. apa γὰρ OLUAaL τοὺς VO{LOUS TOUS EK πειρᾶς “ 7 / / 4 πολλῆς κειμένους καί τινων ξυμβούλων ἕκαστα χα- ᾽ὔ / 4 a ριέντως ξυμβουλευσάντων καὶ πεισάντων θέσθαι τὸ “ € Ν - lal las « if πλῆθος, ὁ Tapa ταῦτα τολμῶν δρᾷν, ἁμαρτήματος ε ΄ , 3 / > / ἁμάρτημα πολλαπλάσιον ἀπεργαζόμενος, ἀνατρέποι a Ἂ a 7 / a 15 77ACQV QV πρᾶξιν ἔτι μειζόνως τῶν ξυγγραμμάτων. NE. ΣΩΏ. Πώς & οὐ μελλει; EE. Διὰ ταῦτα δὴ τοῖς περὶ ὁτουοῦν νόμους καὶ ξυγγράμματα τιθεμένοις δεύτερος πλοῦς τὸ παρὰ ταῦτα μήτε ἕνα μήτε πλῆθος μηδὲν μηδέποτε ἐᾷν 2000GV μηδ᾽ ὁτιοῦν. PEy μὴ 10. Παρὰ γὰρ οἶμαι] The sentence begins with an under- stood subject, viz. οὗτος supra, but as the πρότασις lengthens this is forgotten, and hence, in resuming, the article is intro- duced : δρᾶν. II. χαριέντως} [. 6. by right opinion without science. Cf. Ar. Eth. Nic. I. 3: oi—xapi- έστεροι. Pseudo-Zaleuc. ap. Stob.(Mul- lach. Ὁ. 543 8): τῶν δὲ κειμένων νό- pov ἐάν τις δοκῇ μὴ καλῶς κεῖσθαι, 6 παρὰ ταῦτα τολμῶν μετατιθέναι ἐπὶ τὸ βέλτιον. μεν- ὄντων δὲ, πάντας πειθαρχεῖν᾽ ὡς ὑπ’ ἀνθρώπων μὲν ἡττᾶσθαι τοῦς κειμένους νόμους οὐ καλὸν οὐδὲ συμφέρον, ὑπὸ δὲ νόμου βελτίονος ἡττώμενον κατακρατεῖσθαι καὶ κα- λὸν καὶ συμφέρον. 18. δεύτερος πλοῦς] Cf. Pheedo 99 b; Phileb. 19 ¢, 596; Az: ἜΠΗ. Nic. V. 2.0; Rol Wali 2,6. After failing to make one course, we tack and try an- other. 19. πλῆθος μηδὲν] None, whether rich or poor. Cf. infr. 300 6: τὸ τῶν πλουσίων πλῆθος. Note the emphatic accumulation of negatives. ΠΟΛΙΤΙΚΟΣ. NE. ΣΏ. Ὀρθῶς. = O ’ a , \ x . / n 7 4. Ovkovy μιμήματα μεν ἂν EKATT@V ταῦτα EL) 157 “-“ > , \ \ “ Ε / > / 3 τῆς ἀληθείας, τὰ παρὰ τῶν εἰδότων εἰς δύναμιν εἶναι / γεγραμμένα ; NE. SQ. Πῶς δ᾽ οὔ ; i \\ » / 32) Ν 57 ΞΕ. Καὶ μὴν τόν γε εἰδότα ἔφαμεν, τὸν ὄντως λιτικόν, εἰ 7060 | ἢ τέ λλὰ πολιτικὸν, εἰ μεμνήμεθα, ποιήσειν τῇ τέχνῃ TOAAG \ « a val ΄“ 7 \ εἰς THY αὑτοῦ πρᾶξιν τῶν γραμμάτων οὐδὲν φρον- ,ὔ ¢€ / δ᾽, > > lal / / \ \ τίζοντα, ὁπόταν ἄλλ αὐτῷ βελτίω δόξη παρα τᾶ γε- , ΠΣ € a 5 / a γραμμένα vp αὑτοῦ Kal ἐπεσταλμένα ἀποῦσί τισιν. NE. ΣΩ. Ἔφαμεν γάρ. π- “ « a - oN “ a ΜΞ Εἰ. Οὐκοῦν ἀνὴρ ὁστισοῦν εἷς ἢ πλῆθος ὁτιοῦν, ray Ἃ ΄ / 7 OlS AV VOMOL KELLMEVOL τυγχάνωσι, Ἂ > 7 a ε , ἂν ETLXELPHTwWOL ποιεῖν ὡς βέλτιον \ a o παρὰ TAVTA ὁ TL oS + SN ETEPOV OV, TAVTOV δρῶσι κατὰ δύναμιν ὕπερ ὁ ἀληθινὸς ἐκεῖνος ; NE. ΣΩ. Πάνυ μὲν οὖν. με 5 3 3 9 \ » 7 + \ =H. “Ap οὖν εἰ μὲν ἀνεπιστήμονες ὄντες TO TOL- πὸ nr a \ οὗτον Oper, μιμεῖσθαι μεν 2. μιμήματα ---- τῆς ἀληθείας | Compare the account in Rep. 6, 500, 501, of the procedure of the πολιτειῶν ζώγραφοι. The word γεγραμμένα here contains associations both from writing (cf. γράμματα above and ἐπε- σταλμένα below) and painting, as appears from the word μιμήματα. ἑκάστων----τῆς ἀληθείας] For the structure of this, οἵ. Phedo 65 d: τῶν ἄλλων... ἁπάντων τῆς οὐσίας. 3. παρὰ τῶν εἰδότων] From the lips of those who know : i.e. dictated by them. Cf. Soph. Oed. Tyr. 285: παρ᾽ οὗ τις ἂν σκοπῶν. Sc. τῶν χαριέντως ξυμ- βουλευσάντων supr. Cf. infr. ΕΝ > “ Ν » / ἂν ἐπιχειροῖεν TO ἀληθές, 305 C: παρὰ νομοθέτου βασι- λέως. εἰς δύναμιν εἶναι] Like τὸ νῦν εἶναι, Rep. 6, 506 6. Protag. 317 a. Crat. 396 6: TO μὲν τήμερον εἶναι. 10. ἀποῦσί τισιν] 1. 6. For men from whom he should be absent. The present is used by anticipation for the future, as in Soph. 265 d: τῶν eis τὸν ἔπειτα χρόνον ἄλλως πως δοξα- ζόντων. Or, perhaps, because the injunctions continued in force during his absence. 13. mapa ταῦτα---ὔν] “When- ever they do contrary to what is written in their laws, in the belief that another course is better.” Io Such insti- tutions are at least an imitation of the truth. But 15 whoever contra- venes them for the sake of the general good, as- sumes the 158 ΠΛΑΤΏΝΟΣ ἣ Η “- ΣΝ , a a ΜΔ, a function of μιμοῖντ ἂν μέντοι πᾶν κακῶς" εἰ δ᾽ EVTEXVOL, τοῦτο the law- > » ” ͵ > ? yas, \ ᾽ ΄ giver. οὐκ ἐστιν ἐτι μίμημα, ἀλλ᾽ αὐτὸ TO ἀληθέστατον Only we ane have seen EKELVO 5 that no Σ mass of NE. 2Q. Πάντως που. men, either ἘΞ ᾿ ἣν , € , in poor 5 ili. Καὶ μὴν ἐμπροσθὲ ye ὡμολογημένον ἡμῖν rich, is a \ a 476 A \ 5 competent Κεῖται μηδὲν πλῆθος μηδ᾽ ἡντινοῦν δυνατὸν εἶναι Aa- to do this. a , And if an βεῖν TEXYNV. individual “ i Teen NE, 3Q. Κεῖται yap οὖν. aaa EE. Οὐκοῦν εἰ μὲν ἔστι βασιλική τις τέχνη, TO Bere 10T@V πλουσίων πλῆθος καὶ ὃ ξύμπας δῆμος οὐκ ἂν pen ne ΠΌΤΕ λάβοι τὴν πολιτικὴν ταύτην ἐπιστήμην. nearest a \ Oy oe ee ee λαός | ἘΣ ΕΠ HE. Δεῖ δὴ τὰς τοιαύτας γε, ὡς ἔοικε, πολιτείας, ΡΝ ἜΣΕΙ ΄, = \ \ , \ -" res torightgo- εἰ μέλλουσι καλῶς τὴν ἀληθινὴν ἐκείνην τὴν τοῦ ἑνὸς vernment by states, Σ 7 » τ A } cf : by stag, τὸ μετά τέχνης ἄρχοντος πολιτείαν εἰς δυναμιν μιμησα- the strict σθαι O€MOTE κειμένων αὐτοῖς τῶν VO δὲ observance abel) Wis εἰμ ie Ἢ 5 me ae μῆοεν of the laws σριεῖν Tapa τὰ γεγραμμένα καὶ πάτρια ἔθη. and cus- ρ γέγραμμ ρ μ) toms of NE. 30. Καλλιστ᾽ εἴρηκας. their fore- ὩΣ “7 ὧν β " ᾿ A ee HE. Ὅταν apa ol πλούσιοι ταύτην μιμῶνται, YY hen Θ Ἂ ’ 35 / ἴω Χ ᾽ὔ rich do so, 20TOTE ἀριστοκρατίαν καλοῦμεν τὴν τοιαύτην πολι- it 15 arl- a! Beas Q νι i x ; 5 stocracy; τείαν᾽ omoTay δὲ τῶν νόμων μὴ φροντίζωσιν, ὀλι- when they ; neglect the γαρχίαν. laws, it is ‘ oligarchy. NE. >Q. Κινδυνεύει. When one — NRT 5 a » Nee rules ac- HE. Kai μὴν ὁπόταν αὖ *ris* εἷς ἀρχῃ κατὰ vo- cording to , δ > , , = law, itis 25 MOUS, μιμούμενος TOV ἐπιστήμονα, βασιλέα καλοῦ- royalty ; > l > 7 N 2 9 7 ΕΣ ean μεν, ov διορίζοντες ὀνόματι Tov μετ᾽ ἐπιστήμης ἢ spite of ὃ , Nt a law, falsely δόξης κατὰ νόμους μοναρχοῦντα. 1. πᾶν] Cogn. or ady. ace. 24. αὖ κτις κα 1 MSS. αὖθις. as in πᾶν τοὐναντίον. Cf. Legg. The correction is due to 4, 718 6: πᾶν ἀγαπητόν. Badham. Cf., however, Soph. 2. οὐκ---ἔτι μίμημα] Cf.Soph. Trach. 1234: μητρὶ μὲν θανεῖν 240 a: ἕτερον δὲ λέγεις τοιοῦτον ---σοί τ᾽ αὖθις ὡς ἔχεις ἔχειν. ἀληθινόν ; Cratyl. 432 ¢. 26. ἢ δόξης κατὰ νόμους] The Ρ. 30}} e ————————— p- 301 ΄ ™ ol. MOAITIKOS. NE. 2Q. Κινδυνεύομεν. =A O 3 an 3) 37 > / yA x - μ᾿. υκουν καν TLS ἀρὰ ἐπισΤΉμων οντῶς ὧν εἰς yf ty / 5 ον \ Ν > \ ἄρχῃ. πάντως TO γε ὄνομα ταῦτον βασιλεὺς καὶ οὐδὲν σ “ > aA \ \ / > / ἕτερον προσρηθήσεται" Ov ἃ δὴ τὰ πέντε ὀνόματα a ΄“ / - A / jf τῶν νῦν λεγομένων πολιτειῶν EV μόνον γέγονεν. ΝΕ. ΣΏ. Ἔοικε γοῦν. μ- / > of / \ / / i EY EE. Ti δ᾽ ὅταν μήτε κατὰ νόμους μῆτε κατὰ €On ΄ - yf “-“ \ og τ TT party Tls εἰς aPpX@V, TT POO TTOLNT At δὲ WOTTEP O €7TL- στήμων, OS ἄρα παρὰ τὰ γεγραμμένα TO ye βέλ- ΄ 3) v > / Ν y+ 7, TLOTOV ποιητέον, ἢ δέ τις ἐπιθυμία καὶ ayVOLa τουτοῦυ words κατὰ νόμους are a limita- tion of μετὰ δόξης----μοναρχοῦντα, not of ἐπιστήμης, and distin- guish the constitutional mo- narch from the tyrant. 4. OC ἃ δὴ----γέγονεν] “ Where- fore we have found that the five names of the constitutions, of which men now speak, are resolved into one only.” Badham corrects A (i.e. τέτταρα) δὴ τὰ πέντε ὀνόματα τῶν λε- γομένων πολιτειῶν μόνον γέγονεν. But how can the five have be- come four, when the fifth kind immediately reappears; and all five are enumerated just below? It is true that the distinction of knowledge or ignorance (or of the better and worse imitation of know- ledge) is substituted for the distinction between persuasion and force. But this applies in a Measure to ἀριστοκρατία and ὀλιγαρχία as well as to βασιλεία and τύραννις. The true βασιλεὺς is only introduced here in order to define the tyrant who affects to act the same part ; and the words δ ἅ-- γέγονεν recall the assertion of supr. 293 ὁ, that the government of knowledge was the only go- vernment (διαφερόντως ὀρθὴν καὶ μόνην πολιτείαν), and the rest not governments but imita- tions of government, some better and some worse. Cf. also supr. 300 6: τὴν ἀληθίνην ἐκείνην, THY τοῦ ἑνός. μετὰ τέχνης ἄρχοντος. infr. : μόναρχον. 302 6: τὴν ὀρθὴν ζη- τοῦσι τοῦτο TO τμῆμα οὐκ TV χρήσιμον. For νῦν, οἵ. 291 6: πρὸς τὸ βίαιόν που καὶ ἑκούσιον A a > ~ TOV €Va εκεινον ἀποσκοποῦντες νῦν---προσαγορεύ- ουσιν. Lege. 4, 714 Ὁ: πολιτειῶν --- ἄρτι διεληλύθαμεν ὅσα λέγου- σιν οἱ πολλοί. 8. προσποιῆται --- ἐπιστήμων | Se. πράττειν. Compare the el- lipse of the infinitive after φαί- νομαι, εἶδον, &e. ὥσπερ ὁ ἐπιστήμων) Se. πράτ- τειν. 9. τό γε βέλτιστον] 7. 6. Although in all else the laws be observed. 10. ἐπιθυμία τε καὶ ἀγνοια---- ἡγουμένη] Cf. Rep. 8, 554 Ὁ: οὐ γὰρ ἂν τυφλὸν ἡγεμόνα τοῦ χοροῦ ἐστήσατο καὶ ἐτίμα μάλιστα. Compare also the picture of 5 affecting wisdom, tyranny. And when one rules by wisdom, and is su- perior to the laws, this too is royalty, but in a sense which an- nihilates the other so-called govern- ments, The reason of these forms is, that the true mon- arch is no- where to be found : and men, despairing of his ad- vent, have had re- course to convention and law. — 160 MAATQNO> | - / ξ΄ cad > / Ν -“ τοῦ μιμήματος ἡγουμένη, μῶν οὐ τότε τὸν τοιοῦτον Ῥ. 3011: - / ἕκαστον τύραννον κλητέον ; | / NE. 20. Ti pv; - a \ / , , ͵, Ἀ ΞΕ. Οὕτω δὴ τύραννος τε γέγονε, φαμέν, καὶ \ Ν > / \ > / Ν 5 βασιλεὺς καὶ ὀλιγαρχία καὶ ἀριστοκρατία καὶ δημο- / ΄ A > ΄, Ν “ ἈΠ a) κρατία, δυσχερανάντων τῶν ἀνθρώπων TOV Eva ἐκεῖ- / , / “ / νον μόναρχον, καὶ ἀπιστησάντων μηδένα τῆς TOLAVTNS > ΄“ ΕΥ x ͵ , cd > / Ν ἀρχῆς ἄξιον ἂν γενέσθαι ποτέ, ὥστε ἐθέλειν καὶ ἃ Ν 3 \ o / + \ δυνατὸν εἶναι μετὰ ἀρετῆς καὶ ἐπιστήμης ἄρχοντα τὰ / ͵ / lal ΄σ lal 4 10 δίκαια καὶ ὅσια διανέμειν ὀρθῶς πᾶσι, λωβᾶσθαι δὲ Ν 5 / Ν lad a x nm ¢ / καὶ ἀποκτιννύναι καὶ κακοῦν ὃν ἂν βουληθῇ ἑκάστοτε ε a / / > a - / Cal / ἡμῶν" ἐπεὶ γενόμενόν γ᾽ ἂν οἷον λέγομεν, ἀγαπᾶσθαί Ἂ Ν 5 a a ’ ΄, > \ TE ἂν καὶ οἰκεῖν διακυβερνῶντα εὐδαιμόνως ὀρθὴν lat 7 / ἀκριβῶς μόνον πολιτείαν. an > 2, ι5 ΝΕ. ΣΏΩ. Ios & οὔ; = > ΄, ee > "7 , ε \ BE. Nov δέ ye ὅποτε οὐκ ἐστι γιγνόμενος, ὡς δὴ ΄ὕ 3 ΖΞ: ὯΝ r \ @ > ,ὔ φαμέν, ἐν ταῖς πόλεσι βασιλεὺς οἷος ἐν σμήνεσιν ἐμφύεται, τό τε σῶμα εὐθὺς καὶ τὴν ψυχὴν διαφέρων e the individual in a state οἵ “tyranny” in book 9, esp. 572 6, Sqq. 4. καὶ βασιλεὺς] In the former of the two senses mentioned above. 7. καὶ ἀπιστησάντων]] Com- pare the language of Aristotle and of Plato himself in the Laws, already quoted supr., notes on pp. 294, 296. 10. λωβᾶσθαι de] Se. ἡγου- μένων πάντα twa ἂν, supplied from ἀπιστησάντων μηδένα ἄν, supr. Cf. Soph. Ant. 263: alib. 12. ἀγαπᾶσθαι —adv| He would be welcomed. Cf. Rep. 6, 499 6: Ὦ μακάριε, ἢν δ᾽ ἐγὼ, μὴ πάνυ οὕτω τῶν πολλῶν κα- τηγόρει, ἀλλοίαν τοι δόξαν ἕξουσιν κιτ.λ. 14. μόνον] Masculine. Note the inverted order and tragic rhythm. τό. ὁπότε οὐκ ἔστι γιγνόμενος] “Since there does not arise a king in states as in hives (at least so we think), one un- mistakeably surpassing both in body and mind, it follows that we are obliged to meet and make enactments.” For this meaning of ὁπότε = quoniam, οἵ, Euthyd. 297 d, and com- pare Ar. Pol. IIT. 8. 18. τό τε σῶμα εὐθὺς] 1. 6. At the first glance, before his ΠΟΛΙΓΙΚΟΣ. 161 ΟἹ. εἷς, δεῖ δὴ συνελθόντας Evyypappara γράφειν, ὡς A / Ν “ ᾽ ΄ / ἔοικε, μεταθέοντας τὰ τῆς ἀληθεστάτης πολιτείας ἴχνη. NE. 3Q. Κωνδυνεύει. SE. Θαυμάζομεν δῆτα, ὦ Σώκρατες, ἐν ταῖς τοι- / / oe / / \ Ν αὑταῖς πολιτείαις ὅσα ξυμβαίνει γίγνεσθαι κακὰ καὶ o a a ε ΄, οσα ξυμβήσεται, τοιαύτης τῆς κρηπῖδος ὑποκειμένης > rn a \ jp yy, \ \ > / QUTQLS, TNS KATA γράμματα καὶ ἔθη μὴ μετὰ ἐπιστη- μῆς πραττούσης τὰς πράξεις ; ἑτέρα προσχρωμένη Ν ,ὕ ς / δ / Nie Se 30 5. AS παντὶ κατάδηλος ws πάντ᾽ ἂν διολέσειε TA “ET αὐτῇ" / Ἃ ἴω ὌΝ ΡΝ / a ¢ γιγνόμενα. ἢ ἐκεῖνο ἡμῖν θαυμαστέον μᾶλλον, ws > ΄ / 3 Ν / 7, \ Χ ἰσχυρὸν τι πόλις ἐστὶ φύσει ; πάσχουσαι yap δὴ an , a / 5 / “ ay / TOLQUTQA αἱ πολεις νυν χρόνον ATTEPAVTOV, OM@S EVLAL > a / / / Ν > 3 7 TLVES αὐτῶν μονιίμοι TE εἰσι και οὐκ QUQT PETTOVTAL® mental qualities can be known. Cf. Ar. Pol. VII. 13 : Ei μὲν τοί- νυν εἴησαν τοσοῦτον διαφέροντες oe nr ΕΣ [τὲ \ \ ἅτεροι τῶν ἄλλων, ὅσον τοὺς θεοὺς καὶ τοὺς ἥρωας ἡγούμεθα ἀνθρώπων διαφέρειν, εὐθὺς πρῶτον κατὰ τὸ σῶμα πολλὴν ἔχοντες ὑπερβολήν, εἶτα κατὰ τὴν Ψυχὴν, ὥστε ἀναμ- φισβήτητον εἶναι καὶ φανερὰν τὴν ὑπεροχήν τοῖς ἀρχομένοις τὴν τῶν 9 ͵ = [τ , ΘΝ ἀρχόντων, δῆλον ὅτι βέλτιον αἰεὶ τοὺς αὐτοὺς μὲν ἄρχειν τοὺς δ᾽ ay , . > x ‘ a? ἄρχεσθαι καθάπαξ' ἐπεὶ δὲ τοῦτ᾽ οὐ ῥάδιον λαβεῖν, οὐδέ ὥσπερ ἐν Ἴνδοις φησὶ Σκύλαξ εἶναι \ @ “- , τοὺς βασιλέας τοσοῦτον διαφέρον- τας τῶν ἀρχομένων, φανερόν, κιτ.λ. 2. μεταθέοντας --- ἴχνη ἢ (ΟἿ Soph. 226 ἃ : τοιόνδε τι μεταθέ- οντας ἴχνος αὐτοῦ. Perhaps there is a slight allusion to the Homeric per ixvia βαῖνε θέοιο. Cf. Pheedr. 266 "Ὁ. 7. τῆς κρηπίῖδο----τῆς--πρατ- τούσης | Viz. ἃ responsible executive. ἐστιν, 9. ἑτέρα] Se. ἀρχὴ, or τέχνη, which is naturally suggested by the preceding argument. προσχρωμένη | Se. τοιαύτῃ κρηπῖδι. Stephanus conjectured 7 from the version of Ficinus : quo si alia quedam gubernatio vel civitas utatur. But for the asyndeton, which is as- sisted by παντὶ κατάδηλος as a kind of particle, cf. the usage with πάντως, 6. g. supr. 268 6. Badh. con]. πραττούσης, 7 πρᾶξις ἑτέρα. 10, τὰ ἐπ᾿ αὐτῇ | MSS. τὰ ταύτη. Badh. corr. raw αὐτῇ. Qy. ὑπ᾽ αὐτῇ 1 II. ὡς ἰσχυρόν τι πόλις ἐστὶ φύσει] Compare Legg. 4, 708 6 : ἔμελλον λέγειν ὡς οὐδείς ποτε ἀνθρώπων οὐδὲν νομοθετεῖ, τύχαι δὲ καὶ ξυμφοραὶ παντοῖαι πίπτου- σαι παντοίως νομοθετοῦσι τὰ πάντα ἡμῖν. 14. μόνιμοι] E.g. Sparta. Cf. Legg. 3, 686 a, b. x Y And do we wonder that many evilsshould arise in states thus based on ignorant custom ? Ought 10 we not rather to admire the strength of the social bond which can endure this strain ? For there are still cities of men which have exist- ed from unknown time, though many from age to age are seen to founder, like ships at sea, through the preten- tious igno- rance of their pilots and mari- ners. Now let us ask which of these bad go- vernments 162 MAATQNO2 Ν ᾿ al / πολλαὶ μὴν ἐνίοτε καὶ καθάπερ πλοῖα καταδυόμεναι p. 3:}} / ΄σ΄ \ Ἀ διόλλυνται καὶ διολώλασι καὶ ἔτι διολοῦνται διὰ τὴν νΆς A σ΄: 7 “ Ν \ Tov κυβερνητῶν καὶ ναυτῶν μοχθηρίαν τῶν περὶ τὰ / » 5) / a Ν \ EYLOTA με (OT) V αγνοιαν εἰλγ OT@MV, οἱ περι TA πο- ead Y: ’ \ , aN / € lal \ ΄ 5 λιτικα ΚΑΤ οὐδὲν γιγνωσκοντες NYOVVTAL κατὰ TTAVTA / ΄σ ’ ΄σ / ΕῚ / σαφέστατα πασῶν ἐπιστημῶν ταύτην εἰληφέναι. NE. 30. ᾿Αληθέστατα. > \ a ΄ lad / BE. Tis οὖν δὴ τῶν οὐκ ὀρθῶν πολιτειῶν τούτων “ Χ κι a lal » lad Ν ἥκιστα χαλεπὴ συζῆν, πασῶν χαλεπῶν οὐσῶν, καὶ 7 a a c n 7 ΄ τοτίς βαρυτάτη ; δεῖ τι κατιδεῖν ἡμᾶς, καίπερ προς γε Ν al \ Chae / , > \ TO νῦν προτεθὲν ἡμῖν πάρεργον λεγόμενον ; οὐ μὴν 3 ’ 3) Ν “ 5 7 LY a / adr εἰς ye TO ὅλον tows TavO EvEeKa TOU τοιούτου πάντες δρῶμεν χάριν. I. πολλαὶ μὴν --- εἰληφέναι | “Many however also from time to time are seen to founder like ships at sea, and thus are perishing, have perished, and shall hereafter perish, because of the vileness of their pilots and crews ; men guilty of the greatest ignorance on the greatest subject ; who, having absolutely no inkling of po- litical science, believe them- selves at all points above all other sciences to have master- ed this.” Compare the de- seription of the “ship’s crew” in Rep. 6, 488. καθάπερ πλοῖ] Cf. Legg. 6,758 a: vats τε ἐν θαλάσσῃ πλέουσα -- πόλις δὲ ὡσαύτως ἐν κλύδωνι τῶν ἄλλων πόλεων. 2. διόλλυνται ---- διολοῦνται | Cf. supr. 268e; Tim 22 ¢; Legg. 3, 676 Ὁ; 688 d. Hat. is 3. τὰ μέγιστα] Sc. τὰ πο- λιτικά. CF. Legg. By, (tex) ὩΣ: τῇ λοίπῃ τε πάσῃ κακίᾳ διεφθαρ- μένα, μάλιστα δὲ τῇ περὶ τὰ μέγιστα τῶν ἀνθρωπίνων πραγ- Rep. 6, 504 6: τῶν δὲ μεγίστων μὴ μεγίστας ἀξιοῦν εἶναι τὰς ἀκριβείας. 4. μεγίστην ἄγνοιαν ἡ 1. 6. the conceit of knowledge. ΟἿ. Soph. 229 ¢: ἀγνοίας ---- εἶδος, πᾶσι τοῖς ἄλλοις αὐτῆς ἀντίσταθ- μον μέρεσιν. 5. kar οὐδὲν] Opposed to κατὰ πάντα. , > , μάτων ἀμαθίᾳ. 9. χαλεπὴ συζῆν] Like χαλεποὶ συγγενέσθαι, Rep. 1, 330 6. II. οὐ μὴν---χάρι»)] Cf. Ar. Eth. Nic. 11. 3: τὸ redos οὐ γνῶ- σις ἀλλὰ πρᾶξις. 12. ἕνεκα---χάριν)] Cf. Legg. 3, οι ἃ: τὸ τίνος δὴ χάριν ἕνεκα ταῦτα ἐλέχθη. τοῦ τοιούτου | Not τοῦ παρέργου (Stallb.), but “for the sake of making life toler- able.” R02, c d ΠΟΛΙΤΙΚΟΣ. 109 NE. ΣΏ. Δεῖ" πῶς & οὖ: EE. Τὴν αὐτὴν τοίνυν φάθι τριῶν οὐσῶν χαλε- Χ / / 4 es πὴν διαφερόντως γίγνεσθαι καὶ ῥᾷστην. ΝΕ. ΣΏ. Πῶς φής: ΞΕ. Οὐκ ἄλλως, πλὴν μοναρχίαν φημὶ καὶ ὀλί. a 5 ἴω / c ΄σ΄' γων ἀρχὴν καὶ πολλῶν, εἶναι τρεῖς ταύτας ἡμῖν λεγο- a an / ᾽ 3 ’ μένας τοῦ νῦν ἐπικεχυμένου λόγου κατ᾽ ἀρχᾶας. NE. Σῶ. Ἦσαν γὰρ οὖν. / / / / / ς ’ὔ’ HE. Ταύτας τοίνυν δίχα τέμνοντες μίαν ἐκαστὴν ἃ A \ 3 \ Ν 3 / , ἐξ ποιῶμεν, τὴν ὀρθὴν χωρὶς ἀποκρίναντες τούτων 10 ἑβδόμην. NE. ΣΩ. Πώς: is the least intolera- ble? The same under different conditions is the worst and the 5 least bad. For of the three men- tioned— monarchy, the rule of few, and de- mocracy— each may be divided into two, so that the forms, in- cluding the best and HE. Ἔκ μὲν τῆς μοναρχίας βασιλικὴν καὶ τυραν- nly form, / 3 > 3 lod Νὴ la / yt? νικὴν, EK O αὖ τῶν μὴ πολλῶν THY TE εὐώνυμον 2, ay > / ἊΝ 3 / 0) εφαμεν εἰναι ἀριστοκρατίαν καὶ ὀλιγαρχίαν a a {/ \\ ε lal ΕῚ 7 3207 τῶν πολλῶν τότε μὲν ἁπλῆν ἐπονομάζοντες ἐτίθεμεν a \ 5 ,ὔ Coa ,ὕ 5. ΣῊΝ δημοκρατίαν, νῦν δὲ αὖ καὶ ταύτην ἡμῖν θετέον ἐστὶ διπλῆν. NE. ΣΏ. Πῶς 67; καὶ τίνι διαιροῦντες ταύτην ; EE. Οὐδὲν διαφέροντι 8. Οὐκ ἄλλως κιτ.λ.} “1 only revert to what I said before. I say that monarchy, the rule of few, and the rule of many, were the three forms of go- vernment of which we spoke at the beginning of this new discussion.” ἡ. τοῦ viv—kar ἀρχάς] ΟἿ, Legg. 7, 793 Ὁ : 6 νῦν δὴ λόγος ἡμῖν ἐπιχυθείς. Cf. Rep. 1, 344 d: ὥσπερ Badaveds ἡμῶν καταν- τλήσας κατὰ τῶν ὦτων ἀθρόον καὶ πολὺν τὸν λόγον. Soph. 264 ¢: ἔτι μείζων κατεχύθη σκοτοδινία. See also Legg. 3, 682 a: τοῦ w are seven in all. Under ἐκ δ᾽ αὖ 15 monarchy we have already dis- tinguished royalty and tyranny : under the rule of few, aristocracy and oli- an 7 5» + τῶν ἄλλων, οὐδ᾽ εἰ TOU- 2° garchy. νῦν ἐπελθόντος ἡμῖν μύθου. 14---τό. τῶν μὴ πολλῶν----τῶν πολλῶν] Abbreviated for τῆς τῶν μὴ π.---τῆς τῶν π. 14. εὐώνυμον] “ Of auspicious name.” Compare the turn of the sentence in Rep. 8, 544 d: καὶ ἡ γενναία δὴ τυραννὶς καὶ πα- σῶν τούτων διαφέρουσα. 20. Οὐδὲν διαφέροντι] By the same mark as in the other cases. Lit. “By a mark in nowise different from the rest.” 29? > ela 4 οὐδ᾽ εἰ τοὔνομα--- ταύτης 1 If we translate, “Even though 2 - And the same dis- tinction enters into democracy: although in this case both parts are called by the one name, There is one demo- cracywhich observes, and ano- ther which neglects, the laws. Now of these six, constitu- tional mon- archy is the best and tyranny is the worst. Oligarchy and aristo- "ι 104 ΠΛΑΤΏΝΟΣ 3 “ » Ν ᾽ \ , Ν " νομα ἤδη διπλοῦν ἐστὶ ταύτης" ἀλλὰ TO TE κατὰ p. 30 Ἢ / » ΄ yy Ν ’ Ν νόμους ἄρχειν καὶ παρανόμως ἐστι καὶ ταύτῃ καὶ 6 ταῖς ἄλλαις. NE, ΣΩ. Ἔστι γὰρ οὖν. / ΄ Νὴ Νὴ ΄“ lal Ν EE. Tore μὲν τοίνυν τὴν ὀρθὴν ζητοῦσι τοῦτο τὸ “ > 53 c ’ ΄σ / τμῆμα οὐκ ἢν χρήσιμον, ws ἐν τοῖς πρόσθεν ἀπε- δείξαμεν᾽ ἐπειδὴ δὲ ἐξείλομεν ἐκείνην, τὰς δ᾽ ἄλλας Wy, 3 / ’ / Ν Ν 7 Ν ἐθεμεν αναγκαίιᾶς, EV ταῦταις δὴ TO παράνομον και "7 c 7 ΄σ ’ ἔννομον ἑκάστην διχοτομεῖ τούτων. NE. 2Q. [Ἔοικε τούτου νῦν ῥηθέντος τοῦ λόγου. ΄σ ‘ 7 =E. Movapxia τοίνυν ζευχθεῖσα μὲν ἐν γράμμασιν > la A / 7 ert? “ “ “ ἀγαθοῖς, ovs νόμους λέγομεν, ἀριστὴ πασῶν τῶν ἕξ yy \ \ Ν ie - ἄνομος δὲ χαλεπὴ καὶ βαρυτατὴ ξυνοικῆσαι. NE. ΣΏ. Κινδυνεύει. Χ ΄ lal a CoN EE. Τὴν δέ ye τῶν μὴ πολλῶν, ὥσπερ ἑνὸς Kal the name of this constitution is already twofold,” this seems inconsistent with 292 a. But Stallbaum ingeniously suggests that Plato here alludes to a distinction, which, though not in common use, had been invented by some philosopher. Still it is difficult to see the bearing of the clause when thus interpreted. Something is required im which democracy may be seen to differ from the other names. And this is supplied by the accidental dif- ference that democracy has a twofold meaning, is one word for two things, whereas in each of the former cases there was a name for either side of the division. “ Even though, when we come to democracy (7δη ταύτης), we find that the name has a twofold mean- ing.” λοῦν. Cf. Pheedr. 244 ἃ, ἀπ- 5. τοῦτο τὸ τμῆμα] This section, viz. the distinction between the use and neglect of law, which was shewn to make no essential difference in the conduct of the perfect ruler. Supr. 292, sqq. 6. ὡς ἐν τοῖς πρόσθεν ἀπε- δείξαμεν] It has been shewn that questions of law are in- different to the ruler who has perfect knowledge. Supr. 293: 8. ἀναγκαίας} I.e. Such as we are compelled to put up with. Compare ἀναγκαίως, e.g. Rep. 7,527 a: λέγουσι ---- γελοίως τε καὶ ἀναγκαίως. 11. ζευχθεῖσα μὲν ἐν γράμμασιν ἀγαθοῖς] ‘Subject to a yoke of good prescriptions.” 15. ὥσπερ ἑνὸς καὶ πλήθους τὸ p- aa ΠΟΛΙΤΊΙΚΟΣ. 105 03. πλήθους το ὀλίγον μέσον, οὕτως ἡγησώμεθα μέσην Qe) > / Ν ᾽ 53 a / Ν ΄ ἐπ᾿ ἀμφότερα τὴν δ᾽ αὖ τοῦ πλήθους κατὰ πάντα ἀσθενῆ καὶ μηδὲν μήτε ἀγαθὸν μήτε κακὸν μέγα / « \ \ aA ὃ \ Ν \ > ‘ » δυναμένην ὡς προς Tas ἄλλας διὰ τὸ Tas apxas ἐν 7, “ \ ‘\ > / Ἂς ταύτῃ διανενεμῆσθαι κατὰ σμικρὰ εἰς πολλους. διὸ 5 / a \ , a ΄σ > ΄σ γέγονε TACOMVY μὲν νομιμῶὼν τῶν πολιτειῶν ουσῶν / > ny lal τούτων χειρίστη, παρανόμων δ᾽ οὐσῶν ξυμπασῶν βελτίστη" » / My a » lal 5 καὶ ἀκολάστων μὲν πασῶν οὐσῶν ἐν 7 lal ζω / » > lal (vA > δημοκρατίᾳ νικᾷ ζῆν, κοσμίων δ᾽ οὐσῶν ἥκιστα ἐν , , ἢ - ΄ \ Ν κ᾿ ᾽ ταύτῃ βιωτέον, ἐν τῇ πρώτῃ δὲ πολὺ πρῶτον TE καὶιο y+ Ν A « " a \ > / ἄριστον, πλὴν THs EBdouNns’ πασῶν yap ἐκείνην γε ὀλίγον μέσον | There is a Pythagorean tone ἴῃ these words, similar to that which is observable in the Politics of Aristotle. 4. διὰ τὸ Tas ἀρχὰς---εἰς ποὰλ- λούς] The remarks of Aristotle, that much water is less easily fouled than little, and that bad influences in a democracy are neutralized by admixture with wholesome elements, as in the case of food, have an analogy with this observation of Plato. 8. καὶ ἀκολάστων μὲν---βιω- τέον] This opinion is quoted by Aristotle as that of one of those who had gone before him. Pol. LV. 2: τὴν τυραννίδα χειρίστην οὖσαν, πλεῖστον ἀπέχειν Δεύτερον δὲ τὴν ὀλι- γαρχίαν᾽ ἡ γὰρ ἀριστοκρατία δι- έστηκεν ἀπὸ ταύτης πολὺ τῆς μετριωτάτην δὲ τὴν δημοκρατίαν. Ἤδη μὲν οὖν τις ἀπεφήνατο καὶ πρότερον οὕτω, οὐ μὴν εἰς ταὐτὸ βλέψας ἡμῖν" ἐκεῖνος μὲν γὰρ ἔκρινε, πα- σῶν μὲν οὐσῶν πολιτείας. , πολιτείας" τῶν Ὃν οἷον ὀλιγαρχίας τε χρηστῆς καὶ τῶν ἄλλων χειρίστην δημοκρατίαν, ἐπιεικῶν, τῶν δὲ φαύλων ἀρίστην. ᾿Ἡμεῖς δὲ ὅλως ταύτας ἐξημαρτημένας εἶναί φαμεν" καὶ βελτίω μὲν ὀλι- γαρχίαν ἄλλην ἄλλης οὐ καλῶς ἔχει λέγειν, ἧττον δὲ φαύλην. See also ib. c. 4. It will be observed that the last words exactly express the doctrine of the Politicus: so that if Aristotle is alluding to this dialogue he has misunder- stood the author's meaning. This does not prove that he does not refer to this passage, but it does tend to shew that he is quoting loosely without thinking of the context, and perhaps without distinctly re- membering the author from whom he quotes. τις τῶν πρότερον is certainly a cu- rious expression for him to use, if he remembered that he was quoting Plato. But the saying may perhaps be older than either of them. See Introduction to the States- man. For the infinitive, as subject of νικᾷ, cf. Soph. Cd. Col. 1225 : μὴ φῦναι τὸν ἅπαντα νικᾷ λόγον. cracy are interme- diate, and democracy is the least powerful for good or harm. Whence a democracy is the worst of law- respecting communi- ties, but the least bad amongst thosewhich I Z despise the laws. Still, there is no com- parison be- tween even constitu- tional roy- alty and the ideal state. None of these forms deserve the name of govern- ment: and their up- holders are not states- men, but factious partisans. We have done, then, with this “crew of Centaurs 166 MAATQNOZ ’ , - Ν 5 ΕἸ /, > cal Μ ; ἐκκριτέον, οἷον θεὸν ἐξ ἀνθρώπων, ἐκ τῶν ἄλλων p. 30}. πολιτειῶν. NE. ΣΩ, Φαίνεται τοῦθ᾽ οὕτω ξυμβαίνειν τε καὶ ! / τ / ποιητέον ἧπερ λέγεις. boomed > ΄ \ ἐν Ν ἈΝ / ΄σ 5 ΞΕ, Οὐκοῦν δὴ καὶ τοὺς κοινωνοὺς τουτων τῶν ΄ ΄- Ν lad > / 5 / πολιτειῶν πασῶν, πλὴν τῆς ἐπιστήμονος, ἀφαιρετέον « > "7 Χ > \ / Ν ὡς οὐκ ovTas πολιτικοὺς ἀλλα στασιαστικοῦς, καὶ a7 7 ΄ ΕΣ κ » \ 5 εἰδώλων μεγίστων προστάτας OVTAS καὶ αὐτοὺς εἰναι \ 3, \ LA τοιούτους, μεγίστους δὲ ὄντας μιμητὰς καὶ γόητας / / a ΄σ , το μεγίστους γίγνεσθαι τῶν σοφιστῶν σοφιστας. a \ NE. 50. Κινδυνεύει τοῦτο εἰς τοὺς πολιτικοὺς λεγομένους περιεστράφθαι τὸ ῥῆμα ὀρθότατα. 5 a \ “ (5D cd qn SE. Elev’ τοῦτο μὲν ἀτεχνῶς ἡμῖν ὥσπερ δρᾶμα, I. οἷον θεὸν ἐξ ἀνθρώπων] Compare Aristotle, Pol. III. 8: ei δέ τις ἐστὶν εἰς τοσοῦτον δια- φέρων κατ᾽ ἀρετῆς ὑπερβολὴν --- ὥσπερ γὰρ θεὸν ἐν ἀνθρώποις εἰκὸς εἶναι τὸν τοιοῦτον. ἡ. οὐκ ὄντας πολιτικοὺς ἀλλὰ στασιαστικούς] Cf. Lege. 8, 832 b: τὰς οὐ πολιτείας ἔγωγε αἰτίας εἶναί φημι ἃς πολλάκις εἴρηκα ἐν τοῖς πρόσθεν λόγοις, δημοκρατίαν καὶ ὀλιγαρχίαν καὶ τυραννίδα. τού- τῶν γὰρ δὴ πολιτεία μὲν οὐδεμία, στασιωτεῖαι δὲ πᾶσαι λέγοιντ᾽ ἂν ὀρθότατα. στασιαστικοὺ}] This is the salient point also in the al- legory of the ship: Rep. 6, 488. 8. εἰδώλων] Viz. τῶν οὐ πο- λιτειῶν ἐκείνων. 9. τοιούτου: 7 Se. εἴδωλα. “The very substance of the ambitious is but the shadow of a dream.” Cf. Phedo 67 b: καθαροὶ ἀπαλλαττόμενοι ---- μετὰ τοιούτων---ἐσόμεθα. 11, Κινδυνεύει----ὀρθότατα] So above, 291 6, the same cha- racter is described as τὸν πάν- τῶν τῶν σοφιστῶν μέγιστον γόητα καὶ ταύτης τῆς τέχνης ἐμπειρότα- τον, in both places with direct reference to the argument of the Sophist, in which the false politician (not πολιτικὸς but δημολογικὸς) is distinguished from the Sophist last of all (Soph. sub. fin.). Cf. Gorg. 465 6: φύρονται ἐν τῷ αὐτῷ καὶ περὶ ταὐτὰ σοφισταὶ καὶ ῥήτορες. Ib. 520 a: ταὐτὸν ὦ μακάριε, ἐστὶ σοφιστὴς καὶ ῥήτωρ. 12. περιεστράφθαι probably al- ludes to the windings of the argument in the Sophist. “ After so much turning and twisting, the word has at last fixed itself on them.” 13. τοῦτο μὲν --- ἐχωρίσθη | τοῦτο has no verb, because the end of the sentence is altered to agree with the middle: thus ἐχωρίσθη is substituted for ἐπεράνθη, or some such word. The clause καθάπερ---- eee eee ae ΠΟΛΙΤΊΚΟΣ. 167 1) 3°3- καθάπερ ἐρρήθη viv δὴ Kevravpixov ὁρᾶσθαι καὶ / 7 A ‘ / > Ν Σατυρικὸν τινα θίασον, ὃν δὴ χωριστέον amo πολιτι- a SA / a 0 7 7 > ἃ κῆς εἴη τέχνης, νῦν οὕτω πάνυ μόγις ἐχωρίσθη. NE. ΣΏΩ. Φαδνεται. 7 oO ΕἾ , mE. Τούτου δέ γ᾽ ἕτερον ere χαλεπώτερον λεί- πεται τῷ ξυγγενές τε ὁμοῦ εἶναι μᾶλλον τῷ βασιλικῷ ιν γγένες μου ε μ . , / / γένει καὶ δυσκαταμαθητότερον. καί μοι φαινομεθα a A Ν 7 “ τοῖς τὸν χρυσὸν καθαίρουσι. πάθος ὅμοιον πεπον- ie θέναι. ΠΣ ΩΣ Πός: lal 7 7ὔ “ HE. Γῆν που καὶ λίθους καὶ πόλλ᾽ ἄττα ἕτερα ,7ὔ ΄σ , « 7 \ ἀποκρίνουσι καὶ ἐκεῖνοι TPOTEPOY οἱ δημιουργοί μετὰ \ a / \ ω ΄σ δὲ ταῦτα λείπεται ξυμμεμιγμένα τὰ ξυγγενῆ τοῦ “ / / 4, Ν Ν χρυσοῦ τίμια καὶ πυρὶ μόνον ἀφαιρετά, χαλκὸς καὶ 3) 3 ἐλ Ne, , x aA % \ ΄’ ἄργυρος, ἐστι δ᾽ OTE καὶ ἀδαμας, *|a|* μετὰ βασανων a ε , y 5... 7 Ν / ταῖς ἐψήσεσι μόγις ἀφαιρεθέντα τὸν λεγόμενον ’ Ν 57 ἴω a Ν ΄ ΕῚ ἀκήρατον χρυσὸν εἴασεν ἡμᾶς ἰδεῖν αὐτὸν μόνον ἐφ ἑαυτοῦ. ΝΕ. ΣΩ. Λέγεται γὰρ οὖν δὴ ταῦτα οὕτω γίγ- νεσθαι. SE. Κατὰ τὸν αὐτὸν τοίνυν λόγον ἔοικε καὶ νῦν eon \ \ a Ἀν RG , 3 ῇ Ν \ \ ἡμῖν τὰ μὲν ETEPA καὶ ὁποσα ἀλλοτρια καὶ τὰ μὴ , - 3 , 3 / , φίλα πολιτικῆς ἐπιστήμης ἀποκεχωρίσθαι, λείπεσθαι \ \ / a 7 δὲ τὰ τίμια καὶ ξυγγενῆ. τούτων δ᾽ ἐστί που στρα- θίασον is suggested by the word more striking image. See this δρᾶμα. 6. τῷ ξυγγενές τε ὁμοῦ εἶναι] So Bodl. MS. Vulg. τῷ ξυγγενές θ᾽ ὁμοῦτ᾽. 12. καὶ ἐκεῖνοι] Here also the text follows the Bodleian MS. 13. Ta ovyyevn τοῦ χρυσοῦ τίμια] The fusion of platinum would have afforded a still described in Faraday’s Che- mistry of a Candle, pp. 184- 204. 15. «[a@]* 1 So Stephanus and Ficinus. MSS. om. τῇ. αὐτὸν μόνον ἐφ᾽ ἑαυτοῦ] Cf. supr. 268 ¢: χωρίσαντες ἀπ᾽ ἐκείνων καθαρὸν μόνον αὐτὸν ἀπο- φήνωμεν. and Sa- tyrs,” and have sever- ed them, once for all, from the King. But there 5 remains an element still harder to separate, becauseless easy to be discerned, and more of kin to the subject of inquiry. Like re- finers of gold, we have got rid of the earth and dross, but have not 1z yet elimi- nated the precious metals which are in combi- nation with that which we seek to bring out 20 Clear. These pre- cious and kindred elements are gene- ralship, the judicial function, Io and that nobler rhe- toric which is the ally of good govern- ment. We must do our best to part these off from the supreme science. Take music and the mechanical arts. There can be no doubt that they must yield prece- dencetothe art which determines which of them is to be learnt. 168 ΠΛΑΤΏΝΟΣ / Ν \ ἂν “ ΄“ “A τηγία καὶ δικαστικὴ καὶ ὅση βασιλικῇ κοινωνοῦσα Pp. 36 }}: e Ν ΄σ \ ῥητορεία πείθουσα τὸ δίκαιον ξυνδιακυβερνᾷ Tas ἐν a ͵ ΄, ἃ A . , es , ταῖς πόλεσι πράξεις" ἃ δὴ *Tin* τρόπῳ ῥάστά τις ᾽ 1% / Ν Ν / > lad > ἀπομερίζων δείξει γυμνὸν καὶ μόνον ἐκεῖνον καθ CaN \ / c ’ e a 5QavTOV τὸν ζητούμενον ὑφ᾽ ἡμῶν ; NE. 3Q. Δῆλον ὅτι τοῦτό πῃ δρᾷν πειρατέον. ,ὔ κ΄ \ 7 \ SE. Πείρας μὲν τοίνυν ἕνεκα φανερὸς ἐσται" διὰ δὲ μουσικῆς αὐτὸν ἐγχειρητέον δηλῶσαι. λέγε. ΝΕ. ΣΏΩ. Τὸ ποῖον ; ! και μοι “ 3, « ΄ 7, HE. Μουσικῆς ἔστι πού τις ἡμῖν μάθησις, καὶ 7 a ΄- ὅλως τῶν περὶ χειροτεχνίας ἐπιστημῶν ; ΝΕ. ΣΩ. Ἔστιν. BE. Τί δέ; τὸ δ᾽ αὖ τούτων ἡντινοῦν εἴτε δεῖ I. καὶ ὅση --- πράξει] Such a higher rhetoric is hinted at in the Phedrus and Gorgias, but more ironically than here. Cf. Gorg. 480 0,6: Pheedr. 271 ἃ, e. The word ῥητο- peta is peculiar to this place. Perhaps, as Stallbaum thinks, it conveys a nobler idea than pntopxn. The admission of rhetoric into the state is a return to nature similar to the adoption of paid teachers which accompanies it in the Laws. Cf. Lege. 4,711 d,e: ἢ τὴν Νέστορος---φύσιν, ὃν τῇ τοῦ λέγειν ῥώμῃ φασὶ πάντων διενεγ- κόντα ἀνθρώπων πλέον ἔτι τῷ σωφρονεῖν διαφέρειν κιτιλ. The προοίμια ΟΥ̓ νουθετητικοὶ λόγοι οἵ that dialogue are an example of the kind of rhetoric here meant. Compare also the re- admission of the practical sci- ences in the Philebus. 3. xTlvex τρόπῳ ῥᾷστα] I have ventured to accent ri and to add the mark of interrogation, as the superlative seems to be otherwise without meaning ; and the answer of Young Socrates is at least equally apposite when the words are thus taken. Cf. Soph. 241 e; Legg. 6, 779 6 : ἣν δὴ τίνα τρό- πον χρὴ ζῇν νύμφιον καὶ νυμφήν ; A similar change has still to be made in the text of Phileb. 26 Θ᾽: τέταρτόν τι τότε ἔφαμεν εἶναι γένος σκεπτέον : ubi legend. τέ- ταρτον τί tore. See Mr. Poste’s translation. 14. Τί δέ; τὸ δ᾽ αὖ] Ast’s conj., τί δὲ τόδ᾽ ad; has been adopted by the Zurich editors. τούτων ἡντινοῦν κιτ.λ.}] This thought was afterwards deve- loped into the ἀρχιτεκτονική of Aristotle. See esp. Eth. Nie. I. 2.. Pol. VIL. 9 Compare Plat. Euthyd. 289, 290 ; Cra- tyl.390a. Gorg.517e. Legg. b —- ---- ———— CN - ζω ΠΟΛΙΤΊΚΟΣ. 109 3 / 53 > ‘ an Ἃ lal αὖ καὶ ταύτην εἰναί τινα περὶ αὐτὰ ταῦτα, ἢ πῶς; o Cy / NE. 2Q. Οὕτως, εἰναι φησομεν. ἘΠῚ) Οὐ an Chee « / 5 7, Ss joy Ld υκουν ετερὰν ομολογήησομεν EKELYMV εἰναι / TQUTNY ; NE. =Q. Nai. HE. Πότερα δ᾽ αὐτῶν οὐδεμίαν ἄρχειν Sew ἄλλην yy Cayee de / , ΕΝ ’, σ΄ » ’ ἄλλης, ἢ ἐκείνας ταύτης, ἢ ταυτὴν δεῖν ἐπιτροπευου- 37) a “ yy σαν ἄρχειν ξυμπασῶν τῶν ἄλλων ; NE. ΣΏ. Ταύτην ἐκείνων. EE. [Τὴν] εἰ δεῖ μανθάνειν ἢ μὴ τῆς μανθανο- Υ͂ Ν ὃ ὃ / 357 ᾽ὔ Ε] > / ὃ “ μενὴς καὶ ὀιθασκουσης apa σὺ γ ἀποφαίνει ειν ἡμῖν ἄρχειν ; NE. ΣΩ. Σφόδρα γε. BE. Καὶ τὴν εἰ δεῖ πείθειν ἄρα ἢ μὴ τῆς δυνα- / , μένης πείθειν : NE. 2Q. Πῶς δ᾽ ov ; — 5 τε ͵ Ν ἈΝ 53 3 / > SE. Kiev τίνι τὸ πειστικὸν οὖν ἀποδώσομεν ἐπι- στήμῃ πλήθους τε καὶ ὄχλου διὰ μυθολογίας ἀλλὰ μὴ διὰ διδαχῆς ; NE. 2Q. Φανερόν, οἶμαι, καὶ τοῦτο ῥητορικῇ δο- , " ΤΕΟΡν OV. ΜΞῈ. Τὸ δ᾽ εἴτε διὰ πειθοῦς εἴτε καὶ διά τινος βίας 12, 963: νοῦν γὰρ δὴ κυβερνη- τικὸν μὲν καὶ ἰατρικὸν εἴπομεν --- τὸν δὲ πολιτικὸν ἐλέγχοντες ἐν- ταῦθ᾽ ἔσμεν νῦν. τι. [Τὴν] εἰ δεῖ μανθάνειν ἢ μή] The old editors, supported by few MSS., insert τὴν before «i, which Stallbaum has retained. The Zurich editors read ταύτην ἐκείνων, εἰ δεῖ μανθάνειν ἢ μή. =. τῆς μ. καὶλ. But the tenor ἜΣ of the argument makes the retention of τὴν almost impe- rative. Compare similar spe- cimens of analogical reasoning in the Gorgias. 18. πειστικὸν͵] This word is used again in Legg. 4, 723 a. 20. μὴ διὰ διδαχῆς] Cf. Gorg. 445a; Theet. 201 a,b. Com- pare the opposition of μῦθος and λόγος in Gorg. 523 a. , CR AN "} ΄ / / > , o4. mavOavew ἡμᾶς εἴτε μὴ, πότερα φήσομεν ἐπιστήμην δ of the art of per- suasion. This must * yield to the art which de- cides whe- 5 ther per- suasion or force is to be used: i. 6. the art of states- mansbip. Then gene- ralship de- cides how war is to be conduct- ed: but the prior ques- tion of war or peace must be decided by another and more authorita- tive art, which can be nothing less than royal. 170 ITAATQNOZ ’ ᾽ « a“ ΕΥ ‘ , δεῖ πράττειν πρὸς τινας ὁτιοῦν ἢ καὶ TO παράπαν Pp. 3h ” Als 5 / ΄ 7 ἐχειν 7, τοῦτ᾽ αὖ ποίᾳ προσθήσομεν ἐπιστήμῃ ; NE. 2Q. Τῇ τῆς πειστικῆς ἀρχούσῃ καὶ λεκτικῆς. SE. Εἴη δὲ ἂν οὐκ ἄλλη τις, ὡς οἶμαι, πλὴν ἡ lal cal / 5 τοῦ πολιτικοῦ δύναμις. NE. 2Q. Καλλιστ᾽ εἴρηκας. - la \ \ EE. Kai τοῦτο μὲν ἔοικε ταχὺ κεχωρίσθαι πολι- ΄σ Ἂς ε , ad “5 37) « cal τικῆς TO ῥητορικὸν, ὡς ἕτερον εἶδος OV, ὑπηρετοῦν μὴν ταύτῃ. 1 ΝΣ. 2. Nai. HE. Ti δὲ περὶ τῆς τοιᾶσδ᾽ αὖ δυνάμεως διανο- /, NTEOV 5 NE. 3Q. Ποίας: a € «ε , - x SE. Τῆς ὡς πολεμητέον ἑκάστοις οἷς av προ- 7 lal 5) OAS δ, 3 yay τ ελώμεθα πολεμεῖν, ELITE αὐτὴν ατέεχνον εἰτε EVTEXVOV ἐροῦμεν ;: NE. ΣΩ. Καὶ πῶς ἂν ἄτεχνον διανοηθεῖμεν, ἣν γε ἡ στρατηγικὴ καὶ πᾶσα ἡ πολεμικὴ πρᾶξις πράττει ; EE. Τὴν δ᾽ εἴτε πολεμητέον εἴτε διὰ φιλίας 5 7 “ / ΄ “οἀπαλλακτέον οἵαν TE καὶ ἐπιστήμονα διαβουλεύ- I. ἢ καὶ τὸ παράπαν Τἔχειν}] Schleiermacher conjectured ἐᾷν (cf. Soph. 242 a: τὸ παράπαν ἐα- réov. And ἐᾷν may perhaps have been mistaken for a contraction of ἔχειν) ; Stallbaum ἀπέχειν = to refrain— supposing ἀπ to be absorbed in παράπαν. (ἀπέχειν sc. τοῦ πράττειν.) Herm. conj. ἡσυχίαν ἔχειν. Badh. λέγειν, with a view to λεκτικῆς infra. But λεκτικῆς is only an ex- pansion of πειστικῆς. The conjecture of Hermann is the best. 9. μὴν] μὴν is thus used in qualifying an assertion supr. 263 €: ἀγελαίων μὴν ζῴων. So μέντοι in Rep. 1, 334 b: ἐπ᾽ ὠφελείᾳ μέντοι τῶν φίλων k.T.A. 14. ὡς] How, in what way. 15. εἴτε] Interrogative, de- pending on διανοητέον. 17. ἥν ye] “ Why it is the function on which generalship and all warlike action is em- ployed.” Cf. Protag. 322 b: πολιτικὴν----ἣς μέρος πολεμική. 1g. Τὴν δ᾽ εἴτε π.] Bodl. τὴν δὲ π. with ATI. 20. οἵαν τε καὶ ἐπιστήμονα] Able through knowledge.” 305. b MOAITIKO®. , TQAUTY) 5 11 « « 7 Ἃ ‘ > ἃ 204. σασθαι, ταύτης ἑτέραν ὑπολάβωμεν ἢ τὴν αὐτὴν NE. SQ. Τοῖς πρόσθεν ἀναγκαῖον ἑπομένοισιν eR 4 ετεραν. EE Ov A yy / > \ > / =H. Οὐκοῦν apyovoay ταύτης αὐτὴν ἀποφανού- μεθα, εἴπερ τοῖς ἔμπροσθέν ye ὑποληψόμεθα ὁμοίως ; NE. ΣΩ. Φημί. 3 \ , a BE. Ti’ οὖν ποτὲ καὶ ἐπιχειρήσομεν οὕτω δεινῆς καὶ μεγάλης τέχνης ξυμπάσης τῆς πολεμικῆς δε- 7 > , / \ \ A 53 σπότιν ἀποφαίνεσθαι πλὴν γε δὴ τὴν ὄντως οὖσαν βασιλικήν : NE. ΣΏΩ. Οὐδεμίαν ἀλλην. ΞΕ. Οὐκ ἄρα πολιτικήν γε θήσομεν, ὑπηρετικὴν 53 Χ a ~ 3 / οὖσαν, THY τῶν στρατηγῶν ἐπιστημην. NE. ΣΩ. Οὐκ εἰκός. SE. Ἴθι δή, καὶ τὴν τῶν δικαστῶν τῶν ὀρθῶς δικαζόντων θεασώμεθα δύναμιν. NE. ΣΏΩ. Πάνυ μὲν οὖν. cy 53 / An HE. “Ap οὖν ἐπὶ πλέον τι δύναται τοῦ περὶ τὰ 8. οὕτω----πολεμικῆς) ‘ What science shall we go about to make supreme over the whole of strategy, a power so for- midable and so mighty ?” το. THY ὄντως οὖσαν βασιλικήν] So the argument is strength- ened by an appeal to language in Soph. 221 ¢: ἢ παντάπασιν ὡς ἀληθῶς σοφιστήν. Supr. 260 Ο: δεσπόζοντά γε. 13. ὑπηρετικὴν οὖσαν] Viz. Subservient to the end of po- litics. So ὑπηρέτιν ἐκείνης infr. Ο. Cf. supr. 260. τό. Ἴθι----καὶ] Cf. supr. 267 a: φέρε----καὶ συνείρωμεν. 10. "Ap οὖν---διαιρεῖν ;| “ Can the judicial art do anything more than, on questions of contract, to determine what is legally just and unjust by re- ference to those fixed laws which she receives from the lawgiving king ; while she brings to the performance of this office her own peculiar virtue, that of being incapable of yielding to bribes or intimi- dation or the appeal to pity, or to any other feeling, whe- ther of enmity or favor, so as to be willing to determine suits between parties other- wise than as the lawgiver has appointed 2” * 72 σι The gene- ral, then, is a servant, and not a governor. Let us now examine the judicial faculty. What can this do be- yond the impartial and incor- ruptible administra- tion of ex- isting laws? This power, then, is only the guardian, and not the directress, of the laws. The science of govern- 15 ment must be different from all of these. Her business is not imme- diate ac- tion, but the guid- ance of action through her discern- ment of 172 , ΄ ote , a , A ᾿ ξυμβοόλαια, πανθ᾽ ὁπόσα κεῖται νομιμὰ πάρα νομο- Ῥ. 861" ΠΛΑΤΩΝΟΣ , a i ~ θέτου βασιλέως παραλαβοῦσα, κρίνειν εἰς ἐκεῖνα A , 7 7 5 Ν + σκοποῦσα Ta TE δίκαια ταχθέντα εἶναι καὶ ἀδικα, Ν σὲ "507 > ‘ / lal ‘7? e , THY auTNnS ἰδίαν ἀρετὴν παρεχομενὴ TOV μηθ ὑπὸ δτινων δώρων μήθ᾽ ὑπὸ φόβων μήτε οἴκτων μήθ᾽ ὑπό τινος ἄλλης ἔχθρας μηδὲ φιλίας ἡττηθεῖσα παρὰ \ ΄ ᾽ a ἈΝ > / τὴν τοῦ νομοθέτου τάξιν ἐθέλειν ἂν τὰ ἀλλήλων ἐγκλήματα διαιρεῖν ; NE. 2Q. Οὔκ, ἀλλὰ σχεδὸν ὅσον εἴρηκας, ταύτης > a ΄ y 10 €OTL τῆς δυνάμεως ἔργον. "ΠῚ Κ Ν \ a ὃ a + ey en am , μι τ. αι Τὴν τῶν οιἰκαστῶν Apa ρωμῆν AVEUPL- ᾽ \ 5 \ / , Ν σκομεν οὐ βασιλικὴν οὖσαν ἀλλὰ νόμων φύλακα καὶ e 7 / ὑπηρέτιν ἐκείνης. NE. 2Q. "Eouké γε. , a HE. Tode δὴ κατανοητέον ἰδόντι συναπάσας Tas 3 ῇ Δ 9) “ ΄ ea » / ἐπιστήμας αἱ εἴρηνται, OTL πολιτικὴ γε αὐτῶν οὐδεμία 3 ΄ \ N yy 5 \ 3 SS ἀνεφάνη. τὴν yap ὄντως οὖσαν βασιλικὴν οὐκ αὐτὴν rn a / / δεῖ πράττειν, ἀλλ᾽ ἄρχειν τῶν δυναμένων πράττειν, ων ἊΝ 7 SY ‘\ a 7 γιγνωσκουσαᾶν τὴν ἀρχὴν TE καὶ ορμὴν τῶν μεγιστῶν as / / ᾽ / \ 2οἐν Tals πόλεσιν ἐγκαιρίας TE πέρι καὶ ἀκαιρίας, τὰς δ᾽ ἄλλας τὰ προσταχθέντα δρᾷν. ΝΕ. 3Q. Ὀρθῶς. 5. μήθ᾽ ὑπό τινος ἄλλης €xOp.] “ No, nor yet hatred ;” accord- ing to the well-known Platonic idiom. Cf. supr. 298 d: εἴτε τινῶν ἰατρῶν καὶ κυβερνητῶν εἴτ᾽ ἄλλων ἰδιωτῶν. 9. σχεδὸν ---- ἔργον] “ You have fairly expressed the limits within which this power is ex- ercised.” 17. οὐκ αὐτὴν δεῖ πράττειν, ἀλλ᾽ ἄρχει] Cf. supr. 259 6. 19. γιγνώσκουσαν ---- πολέσιν] “ Understanding, as regards fitness and unfitness of times, the beginning and first im- pulse of what is most im- portant in states.” Cf Rep. 4,424 a: πολιτεία ἐὰν ἅπαξ ὁρμήσῃ εὖ. ΐ 20. τὰς δ᾽ ἄλλας] Supr. 27 ἃ: τοῖς δ᾽ ἄλλοις διὰ χειρ- ουργιῶν. So, very frequently, the obverse of a proposition is stated at the close of a sentence. ΠΟΛΙΤΊΚΟΣ. — \ a , A \ / , SE. Διὰ ταῦτα apa, as μὲν ἄρτι διεληλύθαμεν, » 3 7 3, “ οὔτε ἀλλήλων οὔὐὔθ᾽ αὑτῶν ἄρχουσαι, περὶ δέ τινα , eon 5 , "2, \ \ 9 ͵ ἰδίαν αὑτῆς οὖσα ἑκάστη πρᾶξιν, κατὰ τὴν ἰδιότητα fal 4 3, 3 3 τῶν πράζεων τοὔνομα δικαίως εἴληφεν ἴδιον. NE. 2Q. Εἴξασι γοῦν. »-- Χ \ lad / 57 A a SH. Τὴν de πασῶν τε τούτων ἄρχουσαν καὶ TOY [2 7 ἴω \\ / / νόμων καὶ ξυμπάντων τῶν κατὰ πόλιν ἐπιμελουμένην ,΄ , ͵ A a an καὶ πᾶντα ξυνυφαίνουσαν ὀρθότατα, τοῦ κοινοῦ TH Τὰ ΄ \ 7 la) κλήσει περιλαβόντες τὴν δύναμιν αὐτῆς, προσαγο- 7 / > 7 VA 7, ρεύοιμεν δικαιότατ᾽ ἀν, ὡς ἔοικε, πολιτικὴν. 10 ΄ \ 5 NE. 2Q. Τ]αντάπασι μεν οὖν. a \ ὯΝ Ν an ΄- 4 HE. Οὐκοῦν δὴ καὶ κατὰ τὸ τῆς ὑφαντικῆς παρά- i? > a δὰ an σ“ ἈΝ δειγμα βουλοίμεθ᾽ ἂν ἐπεζελθεῖν αὐτὴν νῦν, ὅτε καὶ 7 δὴ / \ \ ΄ lal Cas / TAVTA τὰ γένη τὰ κατὰ πόλιν δῆλα ἡμῖν γέγονεν ; ἤ NE. 2Q. Καὶ σφόδρα γε. 15 μοὶ \ \ \ / y SE. Τὴν δὴ βασιλικὴν συμπλοκὴν, ὡς ἔοικε, / / / λεκτέον ποία τ᾽ ἐστὶ καὶ ποίῳ τρόπῳ συμπλέκουσα ἴων e a “ > ἢ ποῖον ἡμῖν ὕφασμα ἀποδίδωσιν. INE SO, Δῆλον. 173 occasions, and of the first begin- nings of great issues. The rest have each 5 a particular function and name: the work- ing of statesman- ship is uni- versal: and hence this science bears the general name of govern- ment, Having now distin- guished it from other forms of civic life, let us view it in itself by the light of our example. What is the nature of the web EE. °H χαλεπὸν ἐνδείξασθαι πρᾶγμα ἀναγκαῖον 20 in which 5 , e , apa γέγονεν, ὡς φαίνεται. NE. 2Q. Πάντως γε μὴν ῥητέον. ΞΕ. To γὰρ ἀρετῆς μέρος ἀρετῆς εἴδει διάφορον 8. ξυνυφαίνουσαν] This word prepares the way for the return to the example of weaving in what follows. TOU κοινοῦ TH κλήσει περι- λαβόντες τὴν δύναμιν αὐτῆς | “ Characterizing the function of this art by the name of that which it shares with the rest,” viz. that they are for the good of the state. Se. πολιτικὴν, ἅτε this sove- reign art inweaves all other arts ἢ ἐπιμελουμένην ἁπάντων τῶν κατὰ πόλιν. For περιλαβ. οἵ. Theet. 148 d: ταύτας πολλὰς οὔσας ἕνι εἴδει περιέλαβες. 13. αὐτὴν] αὐτῇ Bodl. ATL: cett. αὐτήν. Cf. Lege. 6, 778 6, Phileb. 66 d. dre — γέγονε] Pp. 287-290, 303-305. 23. Τὸ γὰρ --- δόξας] “ That one part of yirtue is in some The an- awer to this involves a difficult question. The parts of virtue are gene- rally sup- posed to be in unison. We must now ex- amine whe- ther cou- rage and temper- ance are not rather opposed, Io 15 174 MAATQNOS 3 / , “ Ν / ᾽ ΄- εἰναὶ τινα τρόπον τοῖς περὶ λόγους ἀμφισβητητικοῖς Pp. 30} ‘ 4y? > Ν Ἁ lal ΄σ καὶ war εὐεπίθετον πρὸς Tas τῶν πολλῶν δόξας. NE. ΣΩ. Οὐκ ἔμαθον. EE. ᾿Αλλ’ ὧδε πάλιν. ἀνδρείαν γὰρ οἶμαί σε NE. ΣΏ. Πάνυ γε. « cal / A > “ δι 9S 5 ἡγεῖσθαι μέρος Ev ἀρετῆς ἡμῖν εἶναι. HE. Καὶ μὴν σωφροσύνην γε ἀνδρείας μὲν ἕτερον, A > 53 \ A / - A ἐν δ᾽ οὖν καὶ τοῦτο μόριον ἧς κἀκεῖνο. NE. ΣΩ. Ναί EE. Τούτων δὴ πέρι θαυμαστόν τινα λόγον ἀπο- φαίνεσθαι τολμητέον. NE. ΣΏΩ. Ποῖον : "-- ε 3 \ \ ΄ , 5 EE. Os ἐστὸν κατὰ δὴ τινα τρόπον εὖ μάλα Ν > / Ν ’ x πρὸς ἀλλήλας * ἐχθρὰ ἢ καὶ στάσιν ἐναντίαν ἔχοντε » a a“ 3) ἐν πολλοῖς τῶν OVTOV. NE. ΣΏ. Ios λέγεις ; / lal HE. Οὐκ εἰωθότα λόγον οὐδαμῶς" πάντα yap way different from another kind of virtue is a position easily assailable by contentious disputants who appeal to com- mon opinion.” (23.) ἀρετῆς μέρος ἀρετῆς εἴδει] The expression is purposely varied, perhaps with the inten- tion of recalling the still un- settled question of the distinc- tion between εἶδος and μέρος, supr. 263 a. Cf. Lege. 7,791 6, where ἀνδρεία is called ψυχῆς μόριον ἀρετῆς. Ib. 3, 689 d: Charm.160 a. The words from ἢ χαλεπὸν to δόξας are given to the same speaker in the Bod. MS. 4. ᾿Αλλ᾽ ὧδε πάλιν] Cf. Theeet. 191 b: ἀλλ᾽ ὧδε. Rep. 1. 352 6. Soph. 262 e: ἔτι δὴ σμικρὸν τόδε. 8. ἧς κἀκεῖνο]! Se. ἀρετῆς. 14. στάσιν ἐναντίαν] “ An op- posed attitude :” or perhaps, στάσιν ἐναντίαν ἔχοντε, “ holding opposite sides.” For ἐχθρὰ the MSS. and Edd. have ἔχθραν : ἔχοντε C.H.: cett. ἔχετον. CF. Pheedr. 238 a: δύο τινέ ἔστον ἰδέα ἄρχοντε καὶ ἄγοντε. 15. ἐν πολλοῖς τῶν ὄντων] ΟἿ. infr. ¢: εἴτε κατὰ σώματα εἴτε ἐν ψυχαῖς εἴτε κατὰ φωνῆς φορὰν, εἴτ᾽ αὐτῶν τούτων εἴτ᾽ ἐν εἰδώλοις ὄντων. 17. πάντα γὰρ οὖν----φίλια] The present is certainly a modifi- cation of the view taken by Socrates in the Protagoras, where he upholds the simple unity of virtue. ΠΟΛΙΤΙΚΟΣ. / © σοὺ φίλια. NE. 2Q. Nai. 175 an \ a 5 / KE. Σκοπῶμεν δὴ προσχόντες Tov νοῦν εὖ μάλα, / “ «ες ω » A lal * Ν lal πότερον οὕτως ἁπλοῦν εστὶ τοῦτο, ἢ παντὸς μᾶλλον 5 > a yy \ la / y αὐτῶν EXEL διαφορὰν Τοις ξυγγενέσιν ες TL; NE, 2Q. Ναί, λέγοις ἂν πῇ σκεπτέον. ΞΕ. Ἔν τοῖς ξύμπασι χρὴ ζητεῖν ὅσα καλὰ μὲν 7 / > 3 \ / / » / λέγομεν, εἰς δύο δ᾽ αὐτὰ τίθεμεν ἐναντία ἀλλήλων εἴδη. NE. ΣΏ. Λέγ᾽ ἔτι σαφέστερον. / / 7 ἊΝ / 5} HB. Οξύτητα καὶ τάχος, εἴτε κατὰ σώματα εἴτε » an 7 A al t) 537 5 an / ἐν ψυχαῖς εἴτε κατὰ φωνῆς φοραν, εἰτε αὐτῶν τούτων SY ΔΕ ΥΟ ΤᾺΣ ’ 7 + ε , δ , X εἰτ ἐν εἰδώλοις ὄντων, ὅποσα μουσικὴ μιμουμένη καὶ »y \ / , ’ Χ » ETL γραφικὴ μιμήματα παρέχεται, τούτων τινὸς ἐπαι- 5. οὕτως ἁπλοῦν] Cf. Symp. 183 d: οὐχ ἁπλοῦν ἐστιν,----οὔτε καλὸν εἶναι αὐτὸ---οὔτε αἰσχρὸν, ἀλλὰ καλῶς μὲν πραττόμενον καλὸν, αἰσχρῶς δὲ αἰσχρόν. #—7] “Or whether there be of them which differ in some respect from theix congeners.” The old editions had ἔχον----ἐστὶ, which however is only found in the margin of Ven. =, and is probably due to ἐστὶν having been read for ἐς ri. Heindorf conj. ἔχον ἐστί τι. But for αὐ- τῶν without τι, cf. supr. 285 6, and twa or drra is required rather than τι. 8. ὅσα --- αὐτά] Cf. Soph. 225 b: ὅσον---ἀμφισβητεῖται μέν, εἰκῇ δὲ---περὶ αὐτὸ πράττεται. 12. ᾿Οξύτητα---ἤσθησαι: “I mean to ask, have you ever praised or heard others praise any such thing as quickness and speed, etc. ?” The construction is changed as the sentence pro- ceeds, the accusative in ὀξ. καὶ tax. being partly due to λέγε, and τινὸς to the previous genitives. etre — Πσθησαι] The first two pairs of ecires are hy- pothetical, and the third is interrogative. “ Whether you have either yourself spoken or heard others speak in com- mendation of any of these things—quickness and speed, whether in body, or mind, or movement of sound, whether real, or in such shadowy forms as music, and even painting, afford by imitation.” εἴτε ἐν ψυχαῖς] Cf. Legg. 3, 689 d: πάντα τὰ κυμψὰ καὶ πρὸς τάχος τῆς ψυχῆς πεφυκότα, 10 106. οὖν δὴ ἀλλήλοις τά γε τῆς ἀρετῆς μόρια λέγεταί We must look for this amongst actions which we adimire,and at the same time con- trast with each other, We praise quickness and bold- ness on many ocea- sions, and always by applying the same epithet of ‘ brave.’ 170 ΠΛΑΤΏΝΟΣ / 3 9.τΝ ,ὔ / » y Ν 4 νέτης ELTE AUTOS πώποτε γέγονας εἴτε ἄλλου παρὼν p. 3 hf » cal 5} ἐπαινοῦντος ἡσθησαι ; NE. 2Q. Ti μήν: τ ἢ =) Ν “ yA “ / > N SE. Ἢ καὶ μνήμην ἔχεις ὅντινα τρόπον αὑτὸ “ > e 7 / 5 δρῶσιν εν EKAOTOLS TOUTWY 5 NE. ΣΏ. Ovdapes. — 53 > 3 \ 328 x , [2 =E. *Ap οὖν δυνατὸς αὐτὸ ἂν γενοίμην, ὥσπερ καὶ διανοοῦμαι, διὰ λόγων ἐνδείξασθαί σοι: NE. 2Q. Tid ov; Io cn ε ’ "7 c a \ an i , HE. Padsov ἐοικας ἡγεῖσθαι τὸ τοιοῦτον᾽ σκοπῶ- » 5 3. ΙΝ 5 “ ς 7, 7 a \ μεθα δ᾽ οὖν αὐτὸ ἐν τοῖς ὑπεναντίοις γένεσι. τῶν Yap ἊΝ ’ ΄ 7 7 δὴ πράξεων ἐν πολλαῖς Kal πολλάκις ἑκάστοτε τάχος \ 4 Ae, 7 if VA Ν / καὶ σφοδρότητα καὶ ὀξύτητα διανοήσεώς TE καὶ σώμα- ay \ Ν “ “ ᾽ lad iy Ae SS TOS, ETL δὲ καὶ φωνῆς, ὁταν ἀγασθώμεν, λέγομεν αὐτὸ 15 ἐπαινοῦντες μιᾷ χρώμενοι προσρήσει τῇ τῆς ἀνδρείας. NE. 2Q. Πώς; EE. Ὁ ξὺ καὶ ἀνδρεῖόν πού φαμεν, καὶ ταχὺ καὶ > / Ν Ν ec 4 Ν 7 5 / ἀνδρικὸν, καὶ σφοδρὸν ὡσαύτως" καὶ πάντως ἐπιφέ- ay ἃ Zz Χ 4 la / ροντες τούνομα Ὁ λέγω κοινὸν πάσαις ταῖς φύσεσι / » la > , 20 TQAUTQALS ETTALYOUMEVY GUTGS. 4. αὐτὸ δρῶσι) Cf. Soph. 233 ¢: Δρῶσι δέ ye τοῦτο πρὸς ἅπαντά, φαμεν. 5. ἐν ἑκάστοις τούτων] “ In the case of body, mind, voice, or imitative art.” 4. ὥσπερ ---- διανοοῦμαι] Cf. Crat. 435 Ὁ. LI. ἐν τοῖς ὑπεναντίοις γένεσι] “Tn the kinds where the oppo- sition appears.” Supr. ¢: ἐναντία —eidn. Qy. ταῖς ὑπεναντίαις γενέσεσι 1 Cf. infr.: ἠρεμαίας ad γενέσεως. 310 Cd: πολλαῖς yeve- σεσιν, where some MSS. have πολλοῖς γένεσιν. τῶν γὰρ δὴ --- ἀνδρείας] “ For there are many actions in which, and that repeatedly, we praise speed and vehemence and quick- ness, mental and bodily; and on each occasion” (ἑκάστοτε) “express our praise of the qua- lity which we admire by the one appellation of ‘ bravery.’ ” 12. ἐν πολλαῖς καὶ πολλάκις | Cf. Soph. 264 Ὁ: ἔνια καὶ ἐνίοτε---- with which should have been compared Phileb. 32 d: ἊΣ Ε 4 Kal €VLa—EOTLY OTE —. 14. αὐτὸ] Se. τάχος καὶ σῴφο- δρότητα καὶ ὀξύτητα κιτ.λ. ay, €VLOTE οὔ. ΠΟΛΙΤΙΚΟΣ. NE. ΣΏ. Ναί. 177 = 4 amen 3 5 aps BE. Ti δέ; τὸ τῆς ἠρεμαίας αὖ γενέσεως εἶδος ap > 7 a an ᾽ὔ 07. ov πολλακις ἐπηνέκαμεν ἐν πολλαῖς τῶν πράξεων : NE. 2Q. Καὶ σφόδρα γε. αὶ a 3 ᾽ , / * a / BE. Μῶν οὖν ov τἀναντία λέγοντες ἢ περὶ EKEL- 5 νων τοῦτο φθεγγόμεθα ; NE. 2Q. [las ; bm e ¢ a? , Gh #2 ἈΝ BE. Os ἡσυχαῖα πού φαμεν ἑκάστοτε καὶ σω- , ͵ ΄ 7 ’ , φρονικα, περί τε διάνοιαν πραττόμενα ἀγασθέντες Ν \ \ / 3 7 Ν ΄ eats καὶ κατὰ τὰς πράξεις av βραδέα καὶ μαλακα, καὶ ετιῖο N \ / a Ν / \ a περὶ φωνὰς γιγνόμενα λεῖα καὶ βαρεα, Kal πᾶσαν © \ / Ἀνὰ ΤΟΝ a » > ῥυθμικὴν κίνησιν καὶ ὅλην μοῦσαν ἐν καιρῷ Bpadv- τῆτι προσχρωμένην, οὐ τὸ τῆς ἀνδρείας ἀλλὰ τὸ τῆς / Yj , > a , κοσμιότητος ὄνομα ἐπιφέρομεν αὐτοῖς ξύμπασιν. NE. ΣΏΩ. ᾿Αληθέστατα. — Ν ἊΝ ε / 3 5 , , SE. Καὶ μὴν ὁπόταν αὖ ye ἀμφότερα γίγνηται - CR 2ὔ 7 ¢ 4 5 a Zz ταῦτα ἡμῖν ἄκαιρα, μεταβάλλοντες EKATEpA αὐτῶν Ψε- 5 3 [2 , » ? > > / γομεν ἐπὶ τἀναντία παλιν ἀπονέμοντες τοῖς ὀνόμασιν. 2. γενέσεως] The word is used in the same sense as supr. 283 d, 287 6, to express the operation of any art, or, more generally, the act of doing any- thing. 8. Ὡς ἡσυχαῖα --- - ξύμπασιν] “In saying ‘quiet and mode- rate’ on each occasion, as you know we do (που), when we admire what is done slowly and softly either in thought or action, or, again, what is sounded smoothly and gravely, and all rhythmical movement, and every liberal exercise which apples slowness at the proper time. To all these we attribute not bravery but so- briety, as a fitting epithet.” For * -K.T.A. mos; answered by as, ef. Rep. 6, 510 "Ὁ: πῇ ;--ἣἧ τὸ μὲν αὐτοῦ Theet. 172 ἃ. For the asyndeton, cf. supr. 293 b, where νενομίκαμεν is resumed in dapev, as φαμεν in emupe- popev here. 12. μοῦσαν] 722 d. ἐν καιρῷᾷ, Cf. infr. 6, ἀκαι- ρότερον ὄντα ἢ χρή, and Arist. Eth. Nic. II. 2, δεῖ δ᾽ αὐτοὺς del τοὺς πράττοντας τὰ πρὸς τὸν Cf. Lege. 4, καιρὸν σκοπεῖν. 17. ἄκαιρα! This reading is found as a correction in E, otherwise the MSS. unite in giving ἀκέραια. 18. ἐπὶ τἀναντία πάλιν ἀπονέ- μοντες τοῖς ὀνόμασιν] “ Assigning Aa I Again, we often praise gen- tleness and qiuetness of demean- our and movement, and here we use the very dif- ferent epi- thet of ‘modest.’ On the other hand, both bold- ness and gentleness are often blamed, as rash and cowardly. But rash- ness and cowardice are not found toge- ther, and bravery and mo- desty have not a natu- ral affinity for each other. Both these diverse na- tures and the indivi- duals in whom they are found, most often stand op- posed and are divided by mutual antipathy. This play ot antipa- thies is, however, a trifle in comparison of the mo- mentous issues to 178 NE. 0. Πῶς: MAATQNOZ > \ / ΄“ “ Ν EE. ᾿Οὗύτερα μὲν αὐτὰ γιγνόμενα τοῦ καιροῦ καὶ , Ν « Ν Ν θάττω καὶ σκληρότερα φαινόμενα [καὶ] ὑβριστικὰ καὶ / tavika λέγοντες. Ta δὲ βραδύτερα καὶ μαλακώτερα ! oY ’ P \ Ν « Ν Ν tg 5 δειλὰ καὶ βλακικά. καὶ σχεδὸν ὡς TO πολὺ ταῦτά Ν \ / 7 \ Ν > 7 Ν val TE καὶ τὴν σώφρονα φύσιν καὶ THY ἀνδρείαν τὴν τῶν 7 - / if » 4 ἐναντίων, οἷον Ἱπολεμίας { διαλαχούσας στάσιν ἰδέας, » 3.» ῇ ΄ 3 , > “-“ Ν ovr ἀλληλαις μιγνυμένας ἐφευρίσκομεν εν ταῖς περὶ ‘ a / y Ν 5 lal “ Τὰ Τοίιαυτα πράξεσιν, ETL ΤῈ TOUS) (CV ATGS ψυχαῖς aN / ἐὰν μεταδιώκωμεν. τοαὐτὰς ἴσχοντας διαφερομένους ἀλλήλοις ὀψόμεθα, NE. 3Q. Ποῦ δὴ λέγεις ; lal \ / - lal 3) « EE. Ἔν πᾶσί τε δὴ τούτοις οἷς νῦν εἴπομεν, ὡς them to the opposite quarters again in our nomenclature.” 3. [καὶ] ὑβριστικὰ] So all the MSS. except Ven. =. καὶ op. καὶ pav. =“ Not only violent, but mad.” ὑβριστικὰ] Cf. Pheedr.252 Ὁ: ὑβριστικὸν πάνυ Kat ov σφόδρα τι ἔμμετρον. Cratyl. 426 Ὁ. 4. μανικὰ Cf. Soph. 242 a: μή ποτέ σοι μανικὸς εἶναι δόξω παρὰ πόδα μεταβαλὼν ἐμαυτὸν ἄνω καὶ κάτω. 5. βλακικα] Cf. Rep. 4,432 d: βλακικόν γε ἡμῶν τὸ πάθος. Gore. 488 a: πάνυ με ἡγοῦ βλᾶκα εἶναι. Euthyd. 287 e: ἐξήμαρτον διὰ τὴν βλακείαν. καὶ σχεδὸν ---- μεταδιώκωμεν | “ And so it is for the most part that we find these (the harsh and effeminate), and also the temperance and manliness of the characters opposed to them, as ideas diametrically antago- nistic, not mingling with each other in the actions concerned with such things ; and, more- over, we find, if we follow up the quest so far, that the men also of whose minds they are attributes are at variance with each other.” ἀνδρείαν is pro- bably a substantive. 7. οἷον----ἰδέας] The words as they stand must be construed “ As hostile forms having taken different sides in a quarrel.” (Sad. στ.) But I would venture to read πολεμίαν, and translate “ Forms which as it were have severally been put in a hostile attitude.” Compare στάσιν ἐναντίαν exovre supr. 306 b. Alberti’s interpretation, who would join τὴν τῶν ἐναντίων διαλαχούσας στάσιν, οἷον πολε- μίας ἰδέας, = “ participating, as hostile forms, in the war of opposites,” will hardly com- mend itself to scholars. He is right, however, in adducing Legg. 8, 836 d: τὸ τῆς σώφρο- > , / vos ἰδέας γένος. Pat c —————— σ“.-.-Ὁ —————s HIOAITIKO®X. / > cd a '}07. εἰκὸς Te, ev ἑτέροις πολλοῖς. 179 \ \ 53 \ κατὰ yap οἰμαι τὴν lal / / \ \ > a € ἃ αὑτῶν ἑκατέροις ξυγγένειαν τὰ μὲν ἐπαινοῦντες ὡς οἰκεῖα σφέτερα, τὰ δὲ τῶν διαφόρων ψέγοντες ὡς ἀλλότρια, πολλὴν εἰς ἔχθραν ἀλλήλοις καὶ πολλῶν / / πέρι καθίστανται. NE. ΣΩ. Κινδυνεύουσιν. EE. Παιδιὰ τοίνυν αὕτη γέ τις ἡ διαφορὰ τούτων > Ν a PN a) Ν \ \ / , , ἐστὶ τῶν εἰδῶν" περὶ δὲ τὰ μέγιστα νόσος ξυμβαίνει πασῶν ἐχθίστη γίγνεσθαι ταῖς πόλεσιν. NE. ΣΏΩ. Περὶ δὴ ποῖα φῇς ; a > \ aA ~ HE. Περὶ ὅλην, ὡς ye εἰκός, τὴν τοῦ ζῆν παρα- / « \ A Χ / 5, / Ν σκευὴν. οἱ μὲν γὰρ δὴ διαφερόντως OVTES κοσμιοι TOV “ IN , oS ™~ > Ν ᾽ ες Ν / ἥσυχον ἀεὶ βίον ἐτοιμοι ᾧν, αὐτοὶ καθ᾽ αὑτοὺς μόνοι \ , 3. να , 7 SG Ta σφέτερ᾽ αὐτῶν πράττοντες, OLKOL TE προς ATAVTAS “ « a QA Ν A ᾿, / e / οὕτως ομιλοῦντες, καὶ πρὸς TAS ἔζωθεν πολεις ὡσαυ- 2. ὡς οἰκεῖα σφέτερα] “As their own kith and kin.” Stall- baum quotes Demosth. Orat. ec. Callic. pp: 1274. 5, 1275. 7: ἡμέτερον ἴδιον. Lucian. T. ITI. p- 226 e, ed. Bipont.: τοὐμὸν ἴδιον. The Bodleian has ἐφέτερα (sic). 4. πολλὴν----καὶ πολλῶν πέρι] Cf. ἐν πολλοῖς καὶ πολλάκις 51}. 206 6. 7. Wada] Τ. 6. a trifling matter. Cf. Alsch. Prom. 314. γέ tis] Qy. γ᾽ ere? 8. EvpBaiver] Se. ἡ διαφορὰ αὕτη. Cf. Soph. 228 a. 11. Περὶ ὅλην --- δοῦλοι] ‘* Em- bracing, as might be antici- pated, the whole arrangement of life. For we know that those who excel in modesty are always ready to lead a quiet life, dog their own business by themselves alone, and while they live peaceably with all at home, they are likewise ready at all points to be in a manner at peace with foreign cities. And from being thus in love with quietness, a love not suited to their occa- sions, they unconsciously be- come unfit for war, and create the same defect in their young men, and are in the power of the first aggressor, whence ere many years have passed, themselves, their children and their whole community have often, ere they were aware, been reduced from freedom to slavery.” 12. ὄντες ----ἐπιτιθεμένων] CF. Soph. Cid. Rex. 917: ἀλλ᾽ ἔστι τοῦ λέγοντος. Ib. Cid. Col. “6 5 > c= c ΄ 700 : τοὐπιόντος ἁρπάσαι, τ Aa Ζ which this contraricty leads. For the lovers of a quiet life, if they have their way, by enerva- ting them- selves and the youth, will often bring their country into sla- very. 180 ΠΛΑΤΩΝΟΣ "ἢ , ” / \ »” SRE } τως ETOLPLOL TAVTA OVTES τρόπον TVA ἀγειν εἰρηνὴν. γ. 30})” Ν \ Ν v \ a > / JA δ 4 καὶ διὰ τὸν ἔρωτα δὴ τοῦτον, ἀκαιρότερον ὄντα ἢ Χχρῆ» “ aA / ’ yA > / > ὅταν ἃ βούλονται πράττωσιν, ἔλαθον αὐτοὶ TE ἀπο- 7 7 ἈΝ \ , c / / ῃ λέμως ἰσχοντες καὶ τοὺς νέους ὡσαύτως διατιθέντες ' 2 IM: > a > / ’ e > > “ δόντες τε ἀεὶ τῶν ἐπιτιθεμένων, ἐξ ὧν οὐκ ἐν πολλοῖς "7 ’ N ‘ Aa ‘ , « , > > ἔτεσιν αὐτοὶ καὶ παῖδες Kal ξύμπασα ἡ πόλις ἀντ > / ’ y ec \ / ~ ἐλευθέρων πολλάκις ἔλαθον αὑτοὺς γενόμενοι δοῦλοι. Ν 53 Ν ‘ a NE. 2Q. Χαλεπὸν εἶπες καὶ δεινὸν πάθος. — > « Ν \ ΄σ (472 And the ΞῈ,, Τί δ᾽ οἱ πρὸς τὴν ἀνδρείαν μᾶλλον ῥέποντες ; sort who 59 > SEN , ιν ἢ \ εἰδῶσιν , incline to !0@P οὐκ ἐπὶ πόλεμον ἀεί τινα τὰς αὑτῶν ξυντείνοντες bravery, , \ \ a , , ΄, a everstire πόλεις διὰ τὴν τοῦ τοιούτου βίου σφοδροτέραν τοῦ ring up , > , 7 Ξ = πῆμα δέοντος ἐπιθυμίαν, εἰς ἔχθραν πολλοῖς καὶ δυνατοῖς provoking ΄ x ΄ δ ΄ ἊΝ ὃ , 5 . qaaesels καταστάντες, ἢ παμπαν διώλεσαν ἢ δούλας αὖ καὶ ith er- ε ͵ ta > 5 Ἔξω τ ἡ \ econ ful nich. ὑποχειρίους τοῖς ἐχθροῖς ὑπέθεσαν Tas αὑτῶν πα- Θ bours, pro- , : duce the 15 Τρ ἰδας 2 ol VA lal Aare NE. 2Q. ᾿Ἔστι καὶ ταῦτα. ΒΗ a 5 \ a , / opposite EE. Πῶς οὖν μὴ φῶμεν ev τούτοις ἀμφότερα cause. a Ν 5, Χ ταῦτα τὰ γένη πολλὴν πρὸς ἀλληλα ἀεὶ καὶ τὴν μεγίστην ἴσχειν ἔχθραν καὶ στάσιν ; > ἴω « » ,ὔ 2. ΝΕ. 20. Οὐδαμῶς ὡς οὐ φήσομεν. =a Dy Οὐ a “ » a 3 3 ΄ μ᾿. UKOUV Oo7TEp EMEC KOTIOULEY KAT αρχᾶς, 2 / “ ΄ 3 a 3 Ν > / ἀανευρηκαμεν, OTL μορια ἀρετῆς ov σμικρὰ aAAndAots / , \ \ \ Ἂ sy a διαφέρεσθον φύσει Kai δὴ καὶ τοὺς ἴσχοντας δρᾶτον SIN ΄- τὸ αὐτὸ τοῦτο: Adverbial. I. πάντα] . πολλάκις --- δοῦλοι] Note the rhythm. The style of this passage is closely similar to that of the Laws. 10. guvreivovres] Cf. Rep. 9,590 Ὁ: ὅταν τὸ eovrGdes— συντείνηται ἀναρμόστως. 13. καταστάντες] Qy. καταστή- σαντες | 19. ἔχθραν καὶ στάσιν] Supr. 306 b. The writer seems to pass almost unconsciously from the one meaning of στάσις to the other. 20. Οὐδαμῶς ws οὐ] The adverbial form of οὐδείς ὅσ- TLS οὐ. 23. δρᾶτον τὸ αὐτὸ τοῦτο] Se. ποιοῦσιν διαφέρειν. ΠΟΛΙΤΊΚΟΣ. SO: Κινδυνεύετον. Tode τοίνυν αὖ λάβωμεν. ΝΕ. =H. NE. mE. ΣΏΩ. To ποῖον ; a e a a ot yy ΩΝ > Ν ΄ πρᾶγμα οτιοῦν τῶν αὑτῆς ἐργων, κἂν εἰ TO φαυλο-5 181 γ / “- “ > a Et tis mov τῶν συνθετικῶν ἐπιστημῶν ΄“- ΄- an a 7 τατον, ἑκοῦσα ἐκ μοχθηρῶν καὶ χρηστῶν τινῶν Evvi- ἋΟ a » / lad \ \ \ στησιν, ἢ πᾶσα ἐπιστημὴη πανταχοῦ τὰ μεν μοχθηρὰ 9 , 9 ΄ \ Ὁ 7, \ \ εἰς δύναμιν ἀποβάλλει, Ta δ᾽ ἐπιτήδεια καὶ χρηστὰ 57 3 / Ἂ Nie / Ν > / 7 ἔλαβεν, ἐκ τούτων δὲ καὶ ὁμοίων καὶ ἀνομοίων ὀντων, 7 > A > Ν / / \ / Ν TTQAVTQA εἰς EV αὐτὰ ξυνάγουσα, μιὰν τινὰ δυναμιν KQL10 ἰδέαν δημιουργεῖ. NE. ΣΩ. Τί μήν ; HE. Οὐδ᾽ ἄρα ἡ κατὰ φύσιν ἀληθῶς οὖσα ἡμῖν XN (/ > las a > πολιτικὴ μή ποτε EK χρηστῶν καὶ κακῶν ἀνθρώπων ε a 5 UA / Jy > > 5) ἑκοῦσα εἶναι συστήησηται πόλιν τινά, ἀλλ᾽ εὔδηλον 15 “ “A ” lo \ \ A 7 5 ὅτι παιδιᾷ πρῶτον βασανιεῖ, μετὰ Oe THY βάσανον αὖ a , / Ἂς «ς lo ἈΝ A TOLS δυναμένοις παιδεύειν καὶ UTTI)PETELY προς τοῦτ᾽ Ν fe ΄ > a αὐτὸ παραδώσει, προστάττουσα καὶ ἐπιστατοῦσα 3 , i? e \ αὐτή, καθάπερ ὑφαντικὴ 5. κἂν ε Cf. Soph. 247 ἃ, 267 6; Phileb. 58 ὁ. 13. Οὐδ᾽ ἄρα----ἐπιστατεῖ] “ΝΟΥ is it possible then that our art of statesmanship, in the true and natural sense, will ever (if this can possibly be avoided) form a city by the combination of bad and good : but she will clearly first test her subjects by some child’s- play, after which she will en- trust them to those who are able to educate youth and to be her ministers for this end: and over these she will maintain authority, just as the art of weaving continually presides = 7, a τοῖς τε Ealvovot καὶ τοῖς over and directs the carders and the rest who prepare what is necessary for her use in the production of her fabric.” 14. ἐκ χρηστῶν καὶ κακῶν] Contrast Thucyd. VI. 18 : τό τε φαῦλον καὶ τὸ μέσον καὶ TO πάνυ ἀκριβὲς ἂν ξυγκραθὲν μάλιστ᾽ ἂν aad ἰσχύειν. 16. παιδιᾷ βασανιεῖ] Cf. Rep. 3, 413; Legg. 1, 648; supr. S047 d. 17. καὶ ὑπηρετεῖν πρὸς τοῦτ᾽ αὐτὸ] Seeing that the art of education also is ministerial to the state. Cf. supr. 304. 19. καθάπερ ὑφαντικὴ] Supr. p- 282. Now let us ask whe- ther any art of com- bination will not first select good ele- ments to be com- bined, and cast the bad away. And will not the political science, then, com- bine good elements, whether like or un- like ? There can- not be a good com- bination of good and bad. And as the weaver pre- sides over the prepa- ratory pro- cesses of cardingand spinning,so this science will deliver those whom she selects to educa- tors, over whose work she will herself pre- side. Those incapable of moral training she will reject and suppress. Those of an ignorant and abject nature she will en- slave. The rest, who are capable of being moulded to a noble type and drawn into har- mony, she 182 ITAATQNOS 5 76 o / 4) τάλλα προπαρασκευάζουυσιν ὅσα πρὸς τὴν πλέξιν P- 30} » PE - na ’ αὐτῆς, ξυμπαρακολουθοῦσα προστάττει καὶ ἐπιστα- al 5 e / > cal \ v 5 Tél, τοιαυτὰ EKAOTOLS ἐνδεικνῦσα τὰ εργὰ ἀποτε- lal e a ͵ e “ Ν lal eae 3 λεῖν, οἷα ἂν ἐπιτήδεια ἡγῆται πρὸς τὴν αὑτῆς εἶναι 5 ζυμπλοκήν. NE. ΣΩ. Πανυ μὲν οὖν. EE. αὐτὸν δή μοι τοῦθ᾽ ἡ βασιλικὴ φαίνεται lad ΄ A [ Lal n ἣν πᾶσι τοῖς κατὰ νόμον παιδευταῖς καὶ τροφεῦσι, τὴν a “ SUN , a4 / τῆς ἐπιστατικῆς αὐτὴ δύναμιν ἔχουσα, οὐκ ἐπιτρέψειν lad a / Ἂν \ la / το ἀσκεῖν O TL μή τις πρὸς τὴν αὑτῆς ξύγκρασιν ἀπερ- / 500 , » Ἂ lal n δὲ 7 γαζόμενος σος TL πρρέπον ἄποτέλει, ταῦτα OE μονὰ , , Ν Χ Ν \ παρακελεύεσθαι παιδεύειν. Kal τοὺς μὲν μὴ δυνα- ’ὔ “ y » / Ν ΄ “ μένους κοινωνεῖν ἤθους ἀνδρείου καὶ σώφρονος ὅσα yy / XN / ΄ τε ἄλλα ἐστὶ τείνοντα πρὸς ἀρετήν, ἀλλ᾽ εἰς ἀθεό- NE, Ν » / CaN , ΄ I5TNTa καὶ ὕβριν καὶ ἀδικιαν ὑπὸ κακῆς Bia φύσεως δ ἀπωθούμενους *, θανάτοις τε ἐκβάλλει καὶ φυγαῖς ἊΝ lal / / » / και TALS μέγισταις κολάζουσα ATLALALS. NE. 2Q. Λέγεται γοῦν mas οὕτως. \ 5 , HE. Τοὺς δ᾽ ev ἀμαθίᾳ τ᾽ αὖ καὶ ταπεινότητι 7. Ταὐτὸν δὴ τοῦθ᾽] “Precisely in the same manner it appears to me that the kingly art, keeping the presidential office in her own hands, will not permit those who are educat- ing and rearing the young under the law to practise them in aught but that which being wrought with a view to her process of commingling, creates a disposition suitable thereto, but in these things only she exhorts them to edu- cate the young.” Tavtov—rodro | Cogn. ace. in apposition with what fol- lows. Cf Legg. 2, 660 a: ταὐτὸν δὴ καὶ τὸν ποιητικὸν ὁ ὀρθὸς νομοθετὴς κ.ιτ.λ. 15. ὑπὸ κακῆς βίᾳ φύσεως] Note the inverted order. 16. * ἀπωθουμένους Ὁ] Par. H. ἀπωθούμενος : cett. ἀπωθούμενα. The correction is Stallbaum’s. The MS. reading requires ἀλλ᾽ ὅσα. 1. 6, δυναμένους κοινωνεῖν τούτων doa. But the neuter may be defended by supplying ἤθη, aS implied in τοὺς duvape- vous κοινωνεῖν ἤθους. 1. κολάζουσα] There is a sort of zeugma here. Only a part of the sense of ἐκβάλλει is to be repeated with the participle. p- 309 ΠΟΛΙΡΙΚΟΣ. 183 γένος. NE. Q. ᾿Ορθότατα. ip / , x \ ΠῚ / $309. πολλῇ κυλινδουμένους εἰς TO δουλικὸν ὑποζεύγνυσι μι \ Χ σ ΄ HE. Tous λοιποὺς τοίνυν, ὅσων αἱ φύσεις ἐπὶ τὸ γενναῖον ἱκαναὶ παιδείας τυγχάνουσαι καθίστασθαι b καὶ δέξασθαι μετὰ τέχνης ξύμμιξιν πρὸς ἀλλήλας, / Ν \ Cr \ > / a / τούτων τὰς μὲν ἐπὶ THY ἀνδρείαν μᾶλλον ξυντεινού- - \ , > Sit lew 3 ἈΝ σας, οἷον στημονοῴυες νομισασ αὐτῶν εἶναι τὸ Χ 3 \ tS Ν ΄ 7, / Ν στερεὸμ ἦθος, Tas δὲ ἐπὶ τὸ κόσμιον πίονί TE καὶ μαλακῷ καὶ κατὰ τὴν εἰκόνα κροκώδει Ἔδιανήματι Ἔ Z ] ρ ὮΜ [4 3 / ὃ \ / ἀλλ aN προσχρωμενας, ἐναντία Oe τεινουσας aAAnAaLS, πει- a , \ a ρᾶται τοιόνδε τινὰ τρόπον ξυνδεῖν καὶ ξυμπλέκειν. NE. ΣΏ. Ποῖον δή: “ΞΕ. cas \ ‘ XN \ NS \ Πρῶτον μὲν κατὰ τὸ ξυγγενὲς τὸ ἀειγενὲς ὃν τῆς ψυχῆς αὐτῶν μέρος θείῳ ξυναρμοσαμένη δεσμῷ, μετὰ δὲ τὸ θεῖον τὸ ζωογενὲς αὐτῶν αὖθις » ἀνθρωπίνοις. NE. ΣΏΩ. Πῶς τοῦτ᾽ εἶπες αὖ: μαι Χ a ἴω " / \ 5 BE. Τὴν τῶν καλῶν καὶ δικαίων πέρι καὶ ἀγα- τ. ὑποζεύγνυσι] Se. τοῖς ἀλ- λοις, “makes subject to the rest.” 7. τὰς μὲν ἐπὶ — ξυμπλέ- cev| “ Some natures tending more to courage, whose hard quality she compares to that of the warp, while others are disposed to gentleness, as if spun thick and soft and, ac- cording to the image, in the manner of the woof, these op- posite tendencies she tries to bind and weave together in the following way.” ξυντεινούσας] Neut. Cf. supr. 294 b. 10. ἃ διανήματι ] MSS. dcav- θήματι. Cf. διανθίζω. Corrected by Cornarius. 14. Πρῶτον --- ἀνθρωπίνοις } “First harmonizing that part of their soul which is of eter- nal origin with ἃ kindred, that is a divine bond; and, after that which is divine, the animal nature again with hu- man bonds.” For the ζωογενὲς μέρος τῆς ψυχῆς, cf. Tim. 69 ¢, 566. : 15. θείῳ --- ἀνθρωπίνοι.] Cf. Lege. 1, 631}: διπλᾶ δὲ ἀγαθά ἐστι, τὰ μὲν ἀνθρώπινα, τὰ δὲ θεῖα ἤρτηται δ᾽ θάτερα. > “ , ἐκ τῶν θείων σι will weave together in the follow- ing way, taking the brave na- tures for the warp and the gentle for the softer woof. As nature directs, she will bind the immor- tal part in them by a TO divine bond, and the animal part by human ties. Right opin- ion of what is noble, just, and 15 good, when confirmed by reason inthemind, is a divine principle in a godlike form. The good lawgiver should alone be able to im- part this by eduea- tion to the natures ca- pable of it. The effect of this is to soften the brave nature, and to en- lighten the gentle. 184 ΠΛΑΤΏΩΝΟΣ θῶν καὶ τῶν τούτοις ἐναντίων ὄντως οὖσαν ἀληθῆ , \ / . ΄ ad ’ δόξαν pera βεβαιώσεως, ὁπόταν ἐν ψυχαῖς ἐγγίγνη- ται, θείαν φημὶ ἐν δαιμονίῳ γίγνεσθαι γένει ᾿ )μ μονιῷ LY: γένει. NE. ΣΩ. Πρέπει γοῦν οὕτως. — ἈΝ \ \ \ \ 5 EK. Tov δὴ πολιτικὸν καὶ τὸν ἀγαθὸν vopo- , 3 7 “ ’ , ‘\ Oernv ap ἴσμεν ὅτι προσήκει μόνον δυνατὸν 5 in a A ~ 93. Καὶ ΓΞ εἶναι τῇ τῆς βασιλικῆς μούσῃ τοῦτο αὐτὸ ἐμποιεῖν a > lad a / A » / τοῖς ὀρθῶς μεταλαβοῦσι παιδείας, ovs ἐλέγομεν ΄σ ΄ νῦν δη: Ν “ » / NE. 2Q. To γοῦν εἰκος. EE. Ὃς δ᾽ av δρᾷν ye, ὦ Σώκρατες, ἀδυνατῇ τὸ Io τοιοῦτον, μηδέποτε τοῖς νῦν ζητουμένοις ὀνόμασιν αὐτὸν προσαγορεύωμεν. NE. ΣΏ. ᾿Ορθότατα. 1 ΞΡ, Τί οὖν ; ἀνδρεία ψυχὴ λαμβανομένη τῆς τοιαύτης ἀληθείας ap οὐχ ἡμεροῦται καὶ τῶν δικαίων μάλιστα οὕτω κοινωνεῖν ἂν ἐθελήσειε, μὴ μεταλα- βοῦσα δὲ ἀποκλίνει μᾶλλον πρὸς θηριώδη τινὰ φύσιν: NE. ΣΏ. Πῶς δ᾽ οὖ: i? Ν a , - HE. Τί δέ; τὸ τῆς κοσμίας φύσεως ap οὐ τού- 20 Χ a a » lad των μὲν μεταλαβὸν τῶν δοξῶν ὄντως σῶφρον καὶ τ. ὄντως---βεβαιώσεως] “ Real true opinion with confirma- tion:” i. e. knowledge, as de- fined in Theeet. sub. fin. and Meno 98 a, b; Phedo 76 ; Tim. 51 d,e; Legg. 2, 653 b. 3. δαιμονίῳ γένει | Se. τῷ τῶν ψυχῶν: which is at least Heaven-born, if not Divine. Cf. κατὰ τὸ συγγενές supr. Legg. 1,644 Ὁ: ὡς πρῶτον τῶν καλλίστων δράσι παραγιγνόμενον. ΄ 3) ? τοῖς ἀρίστοις ἀν- Lbs τὰ; 0913. 6: κτῆμα ἀντὶ κτήματος ἄμει- νον ἐν ἀμείνονι κτησάμενος, δίκην ἐν τῇ Ψψυχῇ πλούτου προτιμή- σας. 7. μούσῃ! Cf. Rep. 6, 499 : αὕτη ἡ μοῦσα. This use is frequent in the Laws. 12. τοῖς νῦν ζητουμένοις ὀνόμα- ow] πολιτικὸς, βασιλικὸς, βα- σιλεύς. 15. ἀνδρεία---φύσιν] Cf. Rep. 3; 410, 411. Ρ. 30 d c ΠΟΛΙΓΊΚΟΣ. 185 ] , [2 > / 4 ΄- 09. φρόνιμον, ὡς γε ἐν πολιτείᾳ, γίγνεται, μὴ κοινωνῆ- τ ,ὕ ᾽ 7, ΄, ᾽ , 7 σαν δὲ ὧν λέγομεν ἐπονείδιστόν τινα εὐηθείας δικαιό- τατα λαμβάνει φήμην ; NE. 30. Πάνυ μὲν οὖν. ἱπαταὶ > an \ a rn EE. Οὐκοῦν ξυμπλοκὴν καὶ δεσμὸν τοῦτον τοῖς 5 \ - Χ a > ‘ ° va \ μὲν κακοῖς πρὸς σφᾶς αὐτοὺς καὶ τοῖς ἀγαθοῖς πρὸς \ \ / / lal / τοὺς κακοὺς μηδέποτε μόνιμον φῶμεν γίγνεσθαι, / > 7 > ω a Ν \ , μηδέ τινα ἐπιστήμην αὐτῷ σπουδῇ πρὸς τοὺς τοιου- Δ lal Tous av χρῆσθαί ποτε; NE. 2Q. Πῶς γάρ; HE. Τοῖς δ᾽ εὐγενέσι γενομένοις τε ἐξ ἀρχῆς ἤθεσι θρεφθεῖσί τε κατὰ φύσιν μόνοις διὰ νόμων » , Ν SEN , \ a? 5 / ἐμῴυεσθαι, καὶ ἐπὶ τούτοις δὴ τοῦτ᾽ εἰναι τέχνῃ ’ 7, 57 a“ / φάρμακον, καὶ, καθάπερ εἴπομεν, τοῦτον θειότατον 3: Ν , > “ a Me 7, εἶναι τὸν ξύνδεσμον ἀρετῆς μερῶν * φύσει ΩΣ NN > / / καὶ ἐπὶ TavavTia φερομένων. I. ὥς γε ἐν πολιτείᾳ 1] In which it is not possible fully to embody the highest wisdom. Cf. Rep. 4, 430 6: πολιτικήν ye (ἀνδρείαν). 2. εὐηθείας] Cf. Rep. 1, 349b, 3, 409 a. 5. τοῦτον, SC. τὸν πολιτικὸν] “Must we not then say that the social bond can never become lasting either amongst bad men or between the bad and the good: nor would any science ever seriously make use of such a bond in relation to such materials as these ?” Qu. an leg. τοιοῦτον 2 τοῖς μὲν κακοῖς --- ἀγαθοῖς | The datives depend on γίγνε- σθαι μόνιμον. 11. Τοῖς δ᾽ εὐγενέσι---φερομέ- νων] Se. φῶμεν. “ But in those characters which are at once noble in thei first origin, and have been reared accord- ingly, in these alone this har- mony grows up when fostered by the laws, and this medi- cine is scientifically destined for them; and, as we have said, this is the diviner bond, uniting parts of virtue by nature dissimilar, and diversely bent.” τε] MSS. ye. 13. tovros| The Bodl. MS. has τούτους with ATI. 14. θειότατον] So the Bodl. MS., with AZlISY. Vulg. —TEpov. 15. ἃ φύσει x] The conj. of Stephanus for the MS. reading φύσεως. The expression ἀρετῆς ---ὀΟ ρύσεως, though at first sight resembling Soph. 258 b (@aré- pov μορίου φύσεως), is less de- *pb se / ἀνομοίων 15 ΠῚ this di- vine bond be once im- posed, the human links are easily fas- tened. These are the laws of intermar- riage and union for the sake of offspring. The com- mon prac- tice is erro- neous with respect to this. Not to mention alliances for the sake of wealth and power, in caring for family connexion, men act 180 ΠΛΑΤΏΝΟΣ on a wrong NE. ZO) ᾿Αληθέστατα. principle aiming EE. Τοὺς μὴν λοιπούς, ὄντας ἀνθρωπίνους δεσ- chiefly at ᾿ Ἔν , ΒΗ J \ rah present μούς, ὑπάρχοντος τούτου τοῦ θείου σχεδὸν οὐδὲν χα- ease, and 8 ἐϑ 3 : 9 = at consort- λεπὸν οὔτε ἐννοεῖν οὔτε ἐννοήσαντα ἀποτελεῖν. ing with a / Ν / their likes, 5 NE. 2Q. [Ids 67, καὶ τίνας ; ΄ a / / HE. Τοὺς τῶν ἐπιγαμιῶν καὶ παίδων κοινωνήσεων “ Ν > / 4 c Ν καὶ τῶν περὶ τὰς ἰδίας ἐκδόσεις καὶ γάμους. οἱ yap Ν \ Ν a > > lal ΄σ Ν πολλοὶ τὰ περὶ ταῦτα οὐκ ὀρθῶς ξυνδοῦνται πρὸς \ a / THY τῶν παίδων γέννησιν. 1 ΝΕ. SQ. Τί δή; Ν \ / 7 ΄σ ,ὔ HE. Τὰ μὲν πλούτου καὶ δυνάμεων ἐν τοῖς τοιού- 7 , / x ε y+ Γ ΄ τοις διώγματα τί καί τις ἂν ὡς ἄξια λόγου σπουδάζοι μεμφόμενος ; NE. 2Q. Οὐδέν. 15 fensible. Virtue was too fami- liar an abstraction to be thus paraphrased. And the reading φύσεως may easily have slipt in from supr. κοσμίας φύσεως. Cf. supr. 308 b: μόρια ἀρετῆς ov σμικρὰ ἀλλήλοις διαφέρεσθον φύσει. 6. ἐπιγαμιῶν ---- κοινωνήσεων | “ Intermarriages, and giving and taking of children in mar- riage between states.” The κοινωνία τῶν παίδων is not to be thought of here. 8. ξυνδοῦνται] Rather mid- dle voice with reciprocal mean- ing than passive: = “ enter into mutual bonds.” 12. διώγματα | Eum. 136. 15. περὶ τὰ γένη] “About good family connexions.” Stallbaum objects that what follows re- lates to individual character Cf. Aesch. ΞΕ. Μᾶλλον δέ ye δίκαιον τῶν περὶ τὰ γένη and not to birth, and suggests ἤθη. But the transition from wealth to birth is so natural, that Plato here applies the latter notion metaphorically, which is so much the easier as the bold and gentle cha- racters are spoken of as γένη, and as the argument requires them to be viewed as here- ditary. “ People at present are too clannish in their alli- ances: the brave seeks union with the brave, the gentle with the gentle race.” Cf. supr. a: τοῖς εὐγενέσι γενομένοις. And in- fra: τὸ περὶ τὴν ἀνδρείαν yévos— ἀμφότερα τὰ γένη. Also Legg. 3, ὅο1 6 : τῇ κατὰ γένος αὐθαδεῖ ῥώμῃ. This idea does ποῦ seem to be present in Tim. 18 6: ὅπως οἱ κακοὶ χωρὶς οἵ τ᾽ ἀγαθοὶ ταῖς ὁμοίαις ἑκάτεροι ξυλ- λήξοντα. But then in the Re- Ρ. Sai b ΠΟΛΙΤΙΚΟΣ. 187 ? > ᾽ὔ / / / ov Ν 10, ποιουμένων ἐπιμέλειαν, τούτων πέρι λέγειν, εἰ TL μὴ © κατὰ τρύπον πράττουσιν. NE. ΣΩ. Eixos γὰρ οὖν. HE. Πράττουσι μὲν δὴ οὐδὲ ἐξ ἑνὸς ὀρθοῦ λόγου, d \ n “΄“ ͵7ὔ e / qn τὴν ἐν τῷ παραχρῆμα διώκοντες ῥᾳστώνην καὶ TOs ‘\ \ U/ « “ > / \ > TOUS μὲν προσομοίους αὑτοῖς ἀσπάζεσθαι, τοὺς ὃ ἀνομοίους μὴ στέργειν, πλεῖστον τῇ δυσχερείᾳ μέρος 3 3 ἀπονέμοντες. NE. 2Q. Πός: μ- ΄ ἊΝ / x, κ > SE. Οἱ μέν που κόσμιοι τὸ σφέτερον αὐτῶν ἦθος 10 Thus the a Χ ’, an / \ / ζητοῦσι, καὶ κατὰ δύναμιν γαμοῦσί τε παρὰ τούτων Ν \ > 7 9 «ε a > , 3 ye και TAS ἐκδιδομένας TAP αὐτῶν εἰς τουτοὺς εκπεμ- ’, «ε “ ΧΝ Ν \ > / / πουσι πάλιν" ws δ᾽ αὕτως TO περὶ THY ἀνδρείαν γένος public and the opening of the Timeeus it is assumed that in each individual the active and philosophic tempers are com- bined. In the Laws the harder natures are chosen for the highest offices, Lege. 5, 734 e: καθάπερ οὖν δή τινα ξυνυφὴν ἢ πλέγμ᾽ ἄλλ᾽ ὁτιοῦν, οὐκ ἐκ τῶν αὐτῶν οἷόν τ᾽ ἐστὶ τὴν τ᾽ ἐφυφὴν καὶ τὸν στήμονα ἀπεργάζεσθαι, διαφέρειν δ᾽ ἀναγκαῖον τὸ τῶν στημόνων πρὸς ἀρετὴν γένος" ἰσχυ- ρόν τε γὰρ καί τινα βεβαιότητα ἐν τοῖς τρόποις εἰληφός" τὸ δὲ μαλα- κώτερον καὶ ἐπιεικείᾳ τινὶ δικαίᾳ χρώμενον" ὅθεν δὴ τοὺς μεγάλας ἀρχὰς ἐν ταῖς πόλεσιν ἄρξοντας δεῖ διακρίνεσθαί τινα τρόπον ταύτῃ καὶ τοὺς σμικρᾷ παιδείᾳ βασανι- σθέντας ἑκάστοτε κατὰ λόγον. (ΟἿ, Arist. Pol. I. 3: φησὶ γὰρ δεῖν ὥσπερ ἐξ ἑτέρου τὸ στημόνιον ἐρίου γίνεται τῆς κρόκης, οὕτω καὶ τοὺς ἄρχοντας ἔχειν δεῖν πρὸς τοὺς ἀρχομένους. The same mixture of natures, however, is required in the other citizens, Legg. 6, 773.¢: ταῦτα δὴ διὰ λόγου μὲν νόμῳ προστάττειν μὴ γαμεῖν πλού- σιον πλουσίου μηδὲ πολλὰ δυνά- μενον πράττειν ἄλλου τοιούτου, θάττους δὲ ἤθεσι πρὸς βραδυτέ- ρους καὶ βραδυτέρους πρὸς θάττους ἀναγκάζειν τῇ τῶν γάμων κοινωνίᾳ πορεύεσθαι, πρὸς τῷ γελοῖα εἶναι θῦμον ἂν ἐγεῖραι πολλοῖς" οὐ γὰρ ῥάδιον ἐννοεῖν ὅτι πόλιν δεῖ δίκην κρατῆρος κεκραμένην, οὗ μαινόμενος μὲν οἶνος ἐγκεχυμένος ζεῖ, κολαζόμενος δὲ ὑπὸ νήφοντος ἑτέρου θεοῦ καλὴν κοινωνίαν λαβὼν ἀγαθὸν πῶμα καὶ μέτριον ἀπεργά- ζεται. Compare also the com- bination of qualities required for the guardian in Rep. 2, and for the philosopher in Rep. 6 and the Theztetus. 5. τὴν — otepyev] There is a change of construction from the participial form to the dative of the manner. 7. πλεῖστον — ἀπονέμοντες] “Giving far more importance to their dislike than to any other consideration.” εἶναι = Ὁ sober inter- marry with the sober, the bold with the bold. But they ought 188 MAATQNOZ rather to seek con- nexionwith TEpa τὰ γένη τούτων τοὐναντίον ἅπαν. their oppo- sites. For NE. 3Q. Πώς, καὶ διὰ τί; the bold ; 7 ͵ 3 a ΄ race, un- EE. Διότι πέφυκεν ἀνδρεία τε ἐν πολλαῖς yee mixed, is vigorous at 5 OEOLV ἄμικτος γεννωμένη σώφρονι φύσει κατὰ μὲν first, but tends to ἀρχὰς ἀκμάζειν ῥώμῃ, τελευτῶσα δὲ ἐξανθεῖν παντά- madness in ; the end. πασι μανιαις. And the 9) IE gentle NE. OQ. Eikos. breed, un- mixed with EE. Ἡ δὲ αἰδοῦς ye αὖ λίαν πλήρης ψυχὴ καὶ the brave, ἽΝ, ͵ » , ὧς ἃς \ \ \ hasafeeble 10 ἀκέραστος τόλμης ἀνδρείας, ἐπὶ δὲ γενεᾶς πολλᾶς progeny. “ a , , an a A: Tsien οὕτω γεννηθεῖσα, νωθεστέρα φύεσθαι τοῦ καιροῦ καὶ rangements 3 a \ , » A θ foravoid. ἀποτελευτῶσα δὴ παντάπασιν ἀναπηροῦσθαι. ine this A seen Ψ , ΕΠ ΕΙΣ NE. ΣΏ. Καὶ τοῦτο εἰκὸς οὕτω ξυμβαίνειν. le, if , \ \ \ / “ ἘΠ ΤΣ HE. Τούτους δὴ τοὺς δεσμοὺς ἔλεγον ὅτι χαλε- are im- ‘ > Q\ Ze KN A \ A \ eee) OWED οὐδὲν ξυνδεῖν ὑπάρξαντος τοῦ περὶ τα καλὰ with the Ν > \ , y > / \ / ῇ καὶ ἀγαθὰ μίαν ἔχειν ἀμφότερα τὰ γένη δόξαν. same view 5. σώφρονι φύσει] ἄμικτος is to be joined by hyperbaton to σώφρονι φύσει. bued with one opinion respect- ing what is honourable and good. Yes, this is the single 6. e€avOciv—pavias| Tragic. Cf. Soph. Ant. : οὕτω τᾶς μανίας δεινὸν ἀποστάζει ἀνθηρόν τε μένος, κεῖνος ἐπέγνω μανίαις k.7.A. Aesch. Pers. 821 : ὕβρις γὰρ ἐξανθοῦσ᾽ ἐκάρπωσε στάχυν ἄτης. The dative μανίαις occurs with simi- lar meaning in Legg. g, 869 a, ib. 881 b, ib. 6, 783 a. 9. Ἡ δὲ κιτ.λ.] Se. πέφυκε. αἰδοῦς γε] Bod. τε. II. νωθ. τοῦ κι) 1. 6. ἀκαίρως νωθής. Cf. supr. 276 6: στερα Tov δέοντος. 308 a. 14. Τούτους δὴ — ἐπιτρέπειν | “Tt was of these bonds I said that there would be no diffi- culty in creating them, if only both the kinds were first im- εὐηθέ- work in which the whole pro- cess of the royal weaving is comprised, never to allow tem- perate natures to keep aloof from the brave, but, warping them together by common sen- timents, by honours, by repu- tation, and by interchange of pledges, to form of both a smooth and closely-woven web, and then to give into their hands the offices of state.” Cf. supr. 310 a, Ὁ. Rep. 4, 429¢: διὰ πάντος δ᾽ ἔλεγον αὐτὴν σω- τηρίαν τὸ --- διασώζεσθαι αὐτὴν κιτιλ. 15. ξυνδεῖν ὑπ.] Bodl. ξυνυπ., not ξυνδεῖν ξυνυπ. (Stallb.) 16. καὶ ἀγαθὰ] Bodl. καγαθὰ. δρᾷ, τὴν αὑτοῦ μεταδιῶκον φύσιος δέον ποιεῖν ἀμφό- ν. au Bi 4 e 310. | b IIOAITIKOZ. 189 cal \ A “ 7, τοῦτο yap ἕν καὶ ὅλον ἐστὶ βασιλικῆς ξυνυφάνσεως yy / ἔχω > 7 / > Ν cal ἔργον, μηδέποτε ἐᾷν ἀφίστασθαι σωῴρονα ἀπὸ τῶν , 3, , \ ε / - ἀνδρείων ἤθη, ξυγκερκίζοντα δὲ ὁμοδοξίαις καὶ τιμαῖς / lal / > / καὶ δόξαις Kal ὁμηρειῶν ἐκδόσεσιν εἰς ἀλλήλους, tal XN / Vdd v4 / 311. λεῖον καὶ τὸ λεγόμενον εὐήτριον ὕφασμα Evvayovra 5 3 > a \ > rn / > \ Oi o / ἐξ αὐτῶν, Tas ἐν ταῖς πόλεσιν ἀρχὰς ἀεὶ κοινῇ TOV- (A τοις ἐπιτρέπειν. NE. 2Q. Πός: ΩΣ > 3, , EE. Οὗ μὲν ἂν ἑνὸς ἄρχοντος χρεία ξυμβαίνῃ, \ an / ys ς / 3 ’ὔ ᾿ TOV TQUTA ἀμφότερα EXOVTA ALPOVMEVOY ἐπιστΤαΤΉΡ᾽" τὸ @ δ᾽ a‘ x / / / ε / & ov 0 ἂν πλειόνων, τούτων μέρος ἑκατέρων ξυμμι- , \ \ \ ΄ » / 27) , γνυντα. τὰ μὲν yap σωφρόνων ἀρχόντων ἡθὴ σῴφο- \ > a Ν / Ν , / Opa μὲν εὐλαβῆ καὶ δίκαια καὶ σωτήρια, δριμύτητος ’ / a δὲ καί τινος ἰταμότητος ὀξείας Kal πρακτικῆς ἐν- δεῖται. NE. ΣΏ. Δοκεῖ γοῦν δὴ καὶ τάδε. EE. Τὰ δ᾽ ἀνδρεῖα γε αὖ πρὸς μὲν τὸ δίκαιον καὶ \ XN - , εὐλαβὲς ἐκείνων ἐπιδεέστερα, TO δ᾽ ἐν Tals πράζεσι Ττὸ μὲν διαφερόντως ἴσχει. πάντα δὲ καλῶς γίγνε- 3. ξυγκερκίζοντα ] ““ Making the web close.” Vid. supr. note on 282 b. 4. ὁμηρειῶν] ‘ Pledges.” The word occurs in Thucyd. VIII. 45: λιπόντες ἐς ὁμηρείαν τὸν προσο- φειλόμενον μίσθον. 5. εὐήτριον] “ Of an even or close texture.” The opposite is imphed in Phedr. 268 a: εἰ apa σοὶ φαίνεται διε- στηκὸς αὐτῶν τὸ ἤτριον ὥσπερ ἐμοί. 12. τὰ μὲν γὰρ---ἐνδεῖται] “For the character of a temperate ruler is very careful and just and safe, but is lacking in A -~ > , ς Tas ναὺς ἀπολείπωσιν πυπο- \ Και thoroughness, and in a certain prompt and active determina- tion.” 14. ἰταμότητος] The abstract occurs only here. For ἰταμὸς ef. Lege. 6, 773 Ὁ, and for irns Prot. 349 6. 18. ἐπιδεέστερα) So Bodl. with ATI. cett. ἐπιδεεστέρα. TO—ev ταῖς πράξεσι = TO πρακ- τικόν. But see next note. 1g. tro pevt] “This, as op- posed to the former.” Cf. Soph. 252 ἃ: τοῦτο μὲν οἷός Te κἀγὼ διαλύειν. τὸ μὲν SC. τὸ ἀνδρεῖον ἦθος. The change from plural to singular is noticeable, but seems to be required by ἀμφοῖν of truth and right, Combining these two kinds by every avail- able in- fluence of opinion and custom, the kingly art will dele- gate all offices of state to their joint rule, where one officer is needed, taking care that he combines both na- tures, and where there are more, se- lecting equally from both, that the state may act with energy and good heed, 190 ITAATQNOZ σθαι τὰ περὶ Tas πόλεις ἰδία Kat δημοσία τούτοιν μὴ 1 pl Tas πόλεις ἰδίᾳ ημοσίς μὴ Ρ.3 / ΄- ᾽ / Tapayevopevow ἀμφοῖν ἀδύνατον. NE. ΣΩ. Πῶς γὰρ οὔ: EE. Τοῦτο δὴ τέλος ὑφάσματος εὐθυπλοκίᾳ Evp- lal Ν cal 5πλακὲν γίγνεσθαι φαμὲν πολιτικῆς πράξεως, τὸ τῶν 3 / Ν / > / 5 e / ἀνδρείων καὶ σωφρόνων ἀνθρώπων ἦθος, ὁπόταν ὁμονοίᾳ καὶ φιλίᾳ κοινὸν ξυναγαγοῦσα αὐτῶν τὸν μονοίς ὶ ίᾳ κοινὸν γαγ , e \ / U / Biov ἡ βασιλικὴ τέχνη, πάντων μεγαλοπρεπέστατον e / My, ᾽ , % “ ae 9 ὑφασμάτων Και αριστον ἀποτελέσασα, “ὡς MW ELVaL / 7 yy nr , / / το κοινὸν, τοὺς T ἄλλους ἐν ταῖς πόλεσι πάντας δούλους \ ἮΝ 2 5 / / , a we και EAEVUEPOUS ἀαμπισχοῦσα, TUVEX)) TOUT® Τῷ 7 Λε Ἂν Do 5 / / / γματι, καὶ καθ᾽ ὅσον εὐδαίμονι προσήκει γίγνεσθαι πόλει, τούτου μηδαμῇ μηδὲν ἐλλείπουσα ἄρχῃ τε καὶ ἐπιστατῇ. following. The words are re- jected by Ast, who conjectured ἰταμὸν, and Stallb., who here, as elsewhere, unnecessarily sus- pects a gloss. Qy. τομὸν 1 Cf. Tim. 61 e. 4. Τοῦτο δὴ----ἐπιστατῇ] “This, then, according to our view, is the perfection of the web of political action, directly woven —the brave and temperate in human character, when the kingly science has drawn the lives of such men into com- munion by unanimity and kind- ness, and having thus com- pleted the most glorious and noble of all webs that are of a public nature, and envelop- ing therewith all other denizens of cities, whether slaves or free, binds them by this con- texture into one, and leaving out no point of a city’s happi- ness, in as far as it belongs to a city to attain to happiness, so governs and presides.” For εὐθυπλοκίᾳ, here metaphorically applied, cf. supr. 283 a. ξυμπλακὲν) Bodl. AT, ξυμ- πλέκειν, Τ', ξυμπλεκὲν. ξυμπλακὲν is in keeping with the tragic diction of much else in the dialogue. Cf. Aesch. Ag. 1171: ὅρκος, πῆγμα γενναίως παγέν. 9. τ ὥς γκ εἶναι κοινόν] MSS. ὥστ΄. Cf. supr., ὥς ye ἐν πολι- τείᾳ. It seems to be implied that, although this is the best common life, a higher life is reserved for the individual. For the inf., cf. Rep. 4, 430 ἃ. But perhaps the words are a gloss on κοινὸν supra, as Stall- baum thinks. 11. ἀμπίσχουσα] Here the Bodleian has ἀμφίσχουσα (sic) with ATI. 12. καθ᾽ ὅσον εὐδαίμονι x.7.A. | Cf. Lege. 3, 697 b: τὴν μέλλου- σαν --- εὐδαιμονήσειν εἰς δύναμιν ἀνθρωπίνην. SS ee «οἰὐὐὔϑυδιδοδες........................ ὅδε κιάκιας, καῦμα ΠΟΛΙΤΊΚΟΣ. 191 NE. ΣΩ. Κάλλιστα αὖ τὸν βασιλικὸν ἀπε- , 2 con 5 / Ων Ν τέλεσας ἄνδρα ἡμῖν, ὦ eve, καὶ τὸν πολι- fe TLKOV, I. Κάλλιστα k.7.d.] Some editors have adopted Stallb.’s conjecture, and have attributed these words to the philosopher Socrates. But it is not likely that he would interpose with- out giving Young Socrates time to assent to the last proposi- tion. The present expression is merely an expanded and more courteous form of assent, marking the conclusion of the argument. 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