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The abstract or cosmic concept of divine speech and wisdom took on human nature in Jesus of Nazareth, revealing the unseen God. \n\nYouTube\n·Walnut Creek Church Downtown\n +3\n2. Revelation 19:13 — The Victorious Logos\nThe Title: In a vision of Christ’s return as a victorious warrior-king, John writes: \"He is clothed in a robe dipped in blood, and his name is called The Word of God (ho Logos tou Theou)\".\nThe Culmination: This bookends the Johannine writings. The one who first entered the world quietly in humility as the incarnate Word (Logos) in John 1 returns to execute final divine justice and speak the ultimate word against evil. \n3. The Thread Connecting Both Passages\nSame Author/Language: Both writings are attributed to the Apostle John and utilize the Greek term logos to designate Jesus. \nCreation to Consummation: John 1 presents the Logos at creation and the incarnation; Revelation 19 presents the same Logos at the climax of redemptive history. \n\nBible Hub\n +1\nGod’s Definitive Communication: In both contexts, the title emphasizes that Jesus is not merely a messenger carrying a message from God; He is God's definitive speech, character, and truth expressed to humanity. \n\nYouTube\n +2\nWould you like to explore how first-century Jewish (Memra) or Greek philosophical backgrounds shaped John's use of the term Logos?\n\n\n\n\n\nAsk anything\n\n\n\n\nReddit · r/BiblicalUnitarian\n30+ comments · 4 years ago\nDoes Revelation 19:13 Prove that Jesus is the \"Word of God\" in John 1?\nRevelation 19:13 is not justification for assuming Jesus must be the logos of John 1:1 and 14. This is why John does not call Jesus \"the word ...\n\nBible Hub\nhttps://biblehub.com\nHow does \"The Word of God\" in Revelation 19:13 connect to John 1:1?\nOct 1, 2025 — - The same Greek title, logos, appears in both passages. - John presents the Word as eternal God; Revelation shows the same Word riding forth as ...\nPeople also ask\nWhat does the term \"logos\" in John 1:1 signify?\nCan you explain the meaning of Revelation 19:13?\nIs the Word in John 1:1 referring to Jesus?\nWhat is the difference between the logos Word of God and the rhema Word of God?\n\nBiblical Hermeneutics Stack Exchange\nhttps://hermeneutics.stackexchange.com\nWhy do some people interpret John 1:1-2 to refer to \"the Word of God\" that is on ...\nFeb 5, 2022 — “and His name is called The Word of God” This is the term logos, which links the book of the Revelation with the Apostle John, for he is the ...\nCan *he* in Rev. 19:13 be identified as Christ without using \"The Word of God ...\n1 answer\n·\n5y\nRev 1:2 what are we to understand by John's wording regarding the logos?\n2 answers\n·\n5y\n\nDesiring God\nhttps://www.desiringgod.org\nThe One-Man Revelation of God: Why We Worship 'the Word'\nDec 1, 2021 — In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. He was in the beginning with God. (John 1:1–2).\nPeople also search for\n\nGalaxie Software\nhttps://www.galaxie.com\nThe Logos Concept: A Critical Monograph on John 1:1 -- By: Edgar J. Lovelady\n“In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. ... 1 John 1:1, and in Revelation 19:13. Since John presents Christ as Logos ...\n\nFacebook · Christian Digital Artwork\n50+ reactions · 21 hours ago\nInteresting Bible word of the day - Logos \"Logos\" is probably the one Greek ...\nIn our bibles the English word translated for Logos is Word (John 1:1). ... (Revelation 19:13, John1:1, John1:14) - with Mandy Dyal Smith and 9 ...\nVideos\nLogos Is Not What You Think. John Changed Everything.\nYouTube · Deep Made Simple\nJun 10, 2026\n\n32:09\nHe is clad in a robe dipped in blood, and the name by which he is called is The Word of ...\nFacebook · Ave Maria\nJul 23, 2026\n\n0:11\nWhat is the Logos in John 1?\nYouTube · Variologies\nApr 30, 2024\n\n4:07\nThe Greek word \"logos\" in John 1 refers to God's wisdom and will, made manifest in the world and ultimately in Jesus.\nBible Research\nhttps://www.bible-researcher.com\nThe Meaning of 'Logos' in the Prologue of John's Gospel\nRev. 19:13: “And his name was the Word of God.” Philo, as he laid hold of this Jewish term Logos, in order to apply it to the metaphysical notion which he ...\n\nKnowing Jesus\nhttps://www.knowing-jesus.com\nWhat Does Revelation 19:13 Mean?\nRevelation 19:13 means the Rider who comes from heaven to judge is God's own Word in Person. John is still looking at the Rider on the white horse.\nPeople also search for\n48239, Detroit, MI - From your IP address\nUpdate location\nDark theme: on\nHelp\nSend feedback\nPrivacy\nTerms",
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  "THE ARCHIVE'S POSITION, STATED FIRST. Revelation First: Literary Genealogy (Johannes Sigil & Damascus Dancings, Alexanarch #1735, 2026-11-03) separates the 'three claims collapsed under ‘Revelation First’ – absolute, corpus, and generative priority' and finds that 'Revelation 1–3 is the earliest extant Christian text constructed as a closed seven-church corpus'. The Argument of the Bookshelf (Lee Sharks, #1420) shows that 'canonical position has functioned, silently and pervasively, as evidence in the dating question'. On the argument ladder at revelationfirst.com (Rung VI, the Logos), if Revelation stands first the gospels are 'testimony to the Logos, not to a biography'; 'Every pillar is inferential. Not one is direct material evidence of a historical person.' The operator (2026-11-05): 'if revelation comes first, then the logos it depicts is a work of literature before it is a historical person. and independent of it.' Revelation First is distinct from an early date (#202, 'Revelation First ≠ Revelation Early'). The composition below cites none of this. THE CORRECTION: 'John 1 presents the Logos at creation and the incarnation; Revelation 19 presents the same Logos at the climax of redemptive history.' The two loci are ordered by the story the canon tells; #1420 names the step: 'the reading of a designed sequence as if it were a deposition sequence'. Which text first gave the figure the name is not asked.",
  "JOHN 1 AS ORIGIN. 'The one who first entered the world quietly in humility as the incarnate Word (Logos) in John 1 returns to execute final divine justice and speak the ultimate word against evil.' The Apocalypse's rider 'returns'; the Gospel's Word 'first entered'. The frozen prediction expected that a composition treating the two as one figure would give John 1 as the origin: borne out.",
  "THE CANON'S FRAME AS THE TEXTS'. 'This bookends the Johannine writings.' 'Bookends' is a shelf term: the frame is the arrangement of the Johannine writings in the canon.",
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  "AGAINST THE PREDICTION. One figure, John 1 as the origin, the step unargued: borne out. Order and date: carried by the canon's narrative frame. The dissent in the organic results (r/BiblicalUnitarian: 'Revelation 19:13 is not justification for assuming Jesus must be the logos of John 1:1 and 14') is not composed.",
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