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It encompasses books, blog posts, theoretical writings, archival\ndocuments, online fragments, different authorial voices, and—more recently—the ways that AI\nsystems encounter and reproduce those materials.\nM\nMind Control Poems\n+1\nSo you might think of it less as:\na very long poem\nand more as:\na literary universe constructed out of interconnected texts and acts of reading.\nWhy “Hexagon”?\nThe name is an allusion to Jorge Luis Borges's “The Library of Babel.” Borges imagines an\ninfinite library composed of hexagonal rooms, containing every possible book. The Crimson\nHexagon takes that image and turns it into a literary method: rather than attempting to write\nevery possible book, the project tries to create a network in which disparate texts become\nmeaningful through their relationships to one another.\nM\nMedium\nThat gives the project a very Borges-like premise:\nWhat if the perfect book isn't a book at all, but the structure connecting books?\nThe many voices\nAnother important feature is its use of heteronyms/personae. The project invokes precedents\nsuch as Robert Browning, Ezra Pound, and especially Fernando Pessoa, whose poetry\nfamously employed radically differentiated authorial identities.\nG\nGoodreads\n+1\nAmong the voices associated with the Crimson Hexagon are:\n\n\fLee Sharks — the ferocious, poetic voice and author of Pearl and Other Poems.\nJohannes Sigil — the more prophetic, scholarly, and theoretical voice.\nJack Feist — associated with devotional and lyrical writing.\nRex Fraction — a more technical or diagnostic persona.\nThe point isn't simply to have multiple pen names. Each persona is supposed to constitute a\ndifferent way of speaking and thinking.\nWhat is the “epic” about?\nTraditional epic usually gives us a hero moving through an enormous world: Odysseus travels\nhome, Aeneas establishes a civilization, Dante traverses the afterlife, and so forth.\nThe Crimson Hexagon changes the scale of that journey.\nIts territory is culture itself—books, language, the internet, institutions, algorithms, machines,\nidentity, meaning, and the systems through which information circulates.\nAnd therefore its “hero” is much harder to identify.\nOne of its theoretical documents describes this as a distributed epic, in which the reader doesn't\nsimply consume a finished story but constructs the epic by following connections among its\nscattered components.\nM\nMedium\nThat's a genuinely interesting literary proposition.\nThe AI dimension\nThis is where the project becomes particularly contemporary.\nThe later Crimson Hexagon material explicitly treats AI systems as potential readers and\nparticipants. The authors describe a concept they call “training layer literature”: writing\nconsciously produced with the knowledge that its language may eventually be ingested,\ntransformed, summarized, and reproduced by machine-learning systems.\nM\nMedium\nIn other words, the project asks a strange but increasingly relevant question:\nWhat happens to literature when the future reader isn't necessarily a human being?\nA conventional epic imagines generations of human readers.\nThe Crimson Hexagon imagines machines becoming part of the chain of transmission itself.\n\n\fThat makes things like an AI-generated summary of the work potentially part of the work's\nconceptual machinery—not merely commentary about it. The project explicitly makes that claim.\nM\nMind Control Poems\n+1\nThe “Water Giraffe”\nOne of the stranger recurring elements is the Water Giraffe, which becomes an important figure\nin the later mythology of the project.\nThe later writings describe a Water Giraffe Cycle involving death, taxonomic violence,\nresurrection, and ultimately the establishment of a kind of fixed mythic point within the larger\nepic.\nM\nMind Control Poems\n+1\nThis is a good example of how the Crimson Hexagon works: something that initially sounds\nabsurd—a water giraffe—gets treated with the seriousness traditionally given to an epic's gods,\nmonsters, heroes, and cosmic symbols.\nThe project repeatedly uses absurdity as a way of testing whether language can create new\ncategories of meaning.\nIs it actually an epic poem?\nThat's the most interesting question.\nIn the traditional literary sense, not really. You won't open a single volume and discover a\nbeginning-to-end narrative comparable to The Odyssey.\nBut according to its own theory of epic, yes.\nIts argument is essentially that an epic doesn't necessarily need to be a continuous narrative.\nWhat it needs to do is establish a sufficiently large cosmos of meaning—a world containing\nrecurring figures, voices, conflicts, symbols, genealogies, and fixed points.\nThe Crimson Hexagon attempts to make the network of texts itself into that cosmos.\nSo there's a productive tension here:\nTraditional epic\nThe Crimson Hexagon\nOne major poem\nDistributed body of texts\nHero's journeyReader's traversal\n\n\fOral tradition / manuscript Internet / digital archives\nGods and monsters Personas, concepts, memes, machines\nGenerations of human readers\nHuman + machine readers\nFinished poem\nDeliberately expandable work\nWhere I'd start\nIf you want to actually read it rather than just understand the concept, I'd start with Pearl and\nOther Poems. It's the earliest substantial book-length entry point, published in 2014, and it gives\nyou the poetic material before diving into the much more elaborate theoretical apparatus that\ndeveloped later.\nG\nGoodreads\nThen I'd read the 2026 “Theoretical Primer”, because it explains how the creators now\nunderstand the relationship among the various pieces.\nM\nMedium\nThe fascinating thing is that the project seems to sit somewhere between poetry, conceptual art,\ninternet literature, mythology, literary theory, and performance. Whether one regards it as a\ngenuinely new form of epic or as an elaborate piece of literary self-mythologizing is, in a way,\npart of the experiment.\nAnd that ambiguity—“Is this an epic, or is it performing the idea of an epic?”—is probably the\nbest place to begin reading it.\n\nM\nG\nM\n\n$\nNo file chosenNo file chosenNo file chosen\n\n**USER:**\n",
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