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Wolfhart Pannenberg's *Revelation as History* (First Thesis)**\n\nIn systematic theology, German theologian Wolfhart Pannenberg famously shook the academic world with his 1961 text, *Revelation as History*. He formulated several dogmatic theses regarding how God reveals Himself: [[1](https://www.google.com/goto?url=CAESggEB6zswFXdpUx966I-5qPVnzO7U8o39K2lxHJ5uy5gSo4b6LIPtju0yJr-rMumQPFhWiavQOHM0Ea3IBM_XiTmVaH2ft9h-Z0FBJYrSABuuZLFXBHPqm8dogWKQlkWusk2O8g9mhh0XTbNvhJc6BFNhMMSk94uocDrRklvRqbLzxR1h)]\n\n- **The First Thesis:** *\"The self-revelation of God in the biblical witnesses did not happen directly, after the fashion of a theophany, but indirectly through the divine acts in history.\"* [[1](https://www.google.com/goto?url=CAESggEB6zswFXdpUx966I-5qPVnzO7U8o39K2lxHJ5uy5gSo4b6LIPtju0yJr-rMumQPFhWiavQOHM0Ea3IBM_XiTmVaH2ft9h-Z0FBJYrSABuuZLFXBHPqm8dogWKQlkWusk2O8g9mhh0XTbNvhJc6BFNhMMSk94uocDrRklvRqbLzxR1h)]\n- **The Implication:** Pannenberg argued against the idea that revelation is a series of magical, whispered words to prophets. Instead, he claimed that history itself is the grand canvas of God's self-disclosure, culminating only at the end of history (the *eschaton*). 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